You brought this on yourself
I really don't see the problem with protecting your investment from thieves. Do you have a problem with security cameras, too?
>>333479584
>Do you have a problem with security cameras, too?
Inside private property I don't mind, in public spaces it's clearly invasion of privacy
>>333480461
You have it fucking backwards, jesus fuck.
>>333480461
please be bait
please be bait
please be bait
please be bait
>>333479329
who brought what? if you are old enough you will remember the DRM of the old days were much more intrusive and malicious than even Denuvo.
all it means is that consumers should continue resisting DRM on their legitimately purchased products and devs should realize piracy is not theft and more importantly they can't treat their target audience and potential thieves.
>>333480820
Their target audience is teens and college students. They ARE potential thieves.
i'm sorry i'm just too poor to afford all the video games i want
>>333480735
>>333480569
so according to you it's ok to be filmed without consent in public spaces ?
>>333479584
I'd have a problem if the cameras destroyed my electronics like Denuvo does with hard drives.
>>333481184
Absolutely. Abso-fucking-lutely. In public places people should be fully in public. The only things that should be prevented is stalking (following) and unwanted physical contact.
>>333481328
leftist shit
>>333481378
Apunctuationalist scum.
>Oh no! Now I have to actually pay for videogames!
>>333479329
anti-piracy measures so GOOD that
>they have to keep shilling it here so they seem relevant to anything
>all games released with it that remained uncracked are abysmal flops
>makes sure if denuvo ever goes out of business the protected games simply 'die' unless the devs go out of their way to release a new version
>>333481420
This. Unless it's actively problematic for the consumer (like always-online in offline games etc.), it's perfectly fine to have uncrackable DRM.
>>333479329
> games has denuvo
> denuvo is used by shit games
> even star wars battlefront, a multiplayer only game, has denuvo protection
Denuvo is literally an award for shitty games.
>>333481184
It is legal and yeah, otherwise we wouldn't have anything that happens in public on tape, like police brutality and crime.
>>333481328
>>333481249
Nice meme. This has never been proven.
>>333481713
Yeah, you know who else had social order? NAZIS. Fuck social order! OMG I'm only 15 and I already know how to improve the world. FUCK YOU DAD
I don't even care. new games aren't even worth pirating. I have no interest in anything denuvo is attatched to. I have so much free time over when I'm not forcing myself to play new games that inevitably are shit, only to scratch an itch.
Maybe I don't like games, or maybe the games are bad. I don't know.
>>333479329
I really don't care, I don't remember the last time I bought or pirated a game due to shitty releases in the past years. Don't think I'll care in the future either because if there is something that managed to grab my attention then It's most likely worth supporting the creators of said game
>>333481825
>proving godwin's law with only one reply
I guess we're done here.
>>333481848
Most games are bad and have always been bad. If you look what's been praised as latest and greatest in history, the true unforgettable epic blockbusters by big-name companies, you'll see that 99% of it was immediately forgotten and rightfully so (perhaps you've already done that).
The best way out is not playing newest games unless they're from a director or team you have reasons to respect. Instead, play mostly time-tested stuff, of which there are dozens upon dozens and nobody has played it all. If you've played most great SNES games, you might have missed on the great DOS games or the great PCE exclusives etc. etc.
>>333482102
>"OMG" [meme response]
>"Nonono, dialogue over." Runs away.
I guess you really are 15
>companies scream piracy is kill their sales
>Denuvo already used in many games
>they still haven't gloated about how their sales boosted significantly
Just accept it: stopping pirates don't boost sales.
>>333481795
The very essence of Denuvo operates by constantly writing and reading data (decrypting and re-encrypting) at a rapid pace.
I used to pirate games all the time as a but honestly i feel as you grow older you just stop caring. It's like you have less time to play games so you just don't buy as many and savour the ones you do buy.
The only people I know past their mid 20s who still pirate games are all on the dole as well.
>>333482415
I seriously think denuvo will even significantly lower sales. Word of mouth is a pretty important marketing tool, especially these days with social media. Imagine thousands upon thousands of slavs talking about your game to others. Of course companies using denuvo will never admit this.
>>333480820
Yup. Pretty much this.
Allow me.
/Thread
LETS GET THIS STARTED
Le Denuvo causes bad performance meme
Why do the majority of games run with no problems then?
FIFA 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpM5gTMUtEA [Embed]
Battlefield Hardline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0cKgXrT6o [Embed]
Star Wars Battlefront
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9pFDeRTYSI [Embed]
Lords of The Fallen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tpRPiLDjFk [Embed]
Mad Max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-kWvwtXfgM [Embed]
Need for Speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcayCGCrjcI [Embed]
Unravel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBRPHn-JzEE [Embed]
Adrift
Can't find benchmarks but here is a 3hr stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hB_x1xdAQ [Embed]
Plants vs Zombies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJCOjo8ei-4 [Embed]
>>333482447
So? Software in general works that way. Your shitty OS in general works that way. It's not like you're on Linux running off ext4 or something, you fuckwit.
>pre-MGS5 PC release
>PCucks hyped for the modding potential, literally the only thing they have over the console versions of the game
>game releases with Denuvo
>modding is effectively killed
>>333480461
Are you fat and ugly so you don't want to be filmed without your precious consent?
>>333483025
who the fuck pirates multiplayer shooters anyway?
>>333483025
Oh boy, the shill has arrived.
>>333481586
> acting like piracy saves games
lol
>>333483062
Go to cs.rin.ru and use Google translate, those are the guys making the main headway throughout it. They obviously detail it there.
>>333483162
Piracy does make sure you cannot just sell any and all utter trash - because people will learn to pirate first and check the quality of the garbage available.
This is why PC ports are delayed, piracy itself doesnt really hurt sales, but when your game is a pile of shit - it does kill it.
>>333483025
>>333483025
>>333483025
CONTINUED
That leaves
Far Cry Primal - Ubisoft game with bad performance and bugs... What a surprise.
Dragon Age Inquisition - It doesn't run that bad and all problems on the PC version are also in the console version which doesn't even have Denuvo.
JUST Cause 3 - Shitty port, also has bad performance on console.
Hitman - shitty port performance has improved with patches.
Anno 2055 - Another Ubisoft game, say no more.
Batman AK - A shitty outsources port.
Out of the 8 games that use Denuvo have performance issues and several which are just shitty ports.
I find it hard to believe far cry primal even released
I haven't heard shit about it
>>333483257
I can read Russian. Am I supposed to trust a shady den like that? Some shitty CS server? What the fuck?
>>333483379
>>333483379
>>333483379
CONTINUED
>muh SSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GJZyeAR7H0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX379zScuZE
Whats the problem with denuvo? I thought it was just another protection against crackers.
>>333483379
>Out of the 8 games that use Denuvo have performance issues and several which are just shitty ports.
Shit meant
Out of the 18 games that use Denuvo only 6 have performance issues and several which are just shitty ports.
>>333479329
Meh, I'm glad. I stopped playing video games altogether and to be honest I'm not that depressed anymore and I actually go outside, play sports and hang out with friends. Either way they never saw a single penny from me and I won.
Thanks Denuvo!
>>333483025
>>333483379
Denuvo is so good they always have these little shill-drones on here, posting their threads every 6-12 hours like a clock, and now showing us how they are actually amazing
Whats that marketer-kun?
You promised that using your shitty protection would raise sale numbers and it has yet to ever do that so you gotta raise awarness and support so you dont get shitcanned from all future video games?
Enjoy your dogshit track record of "protected" games.
>>333483895
>all these piratefag tears
Glorious.
>>333483974
>just shown me how all denuvo protected games are shit games and shit ports
>tears
>shows off how everything he is posting is prepared viral marketing material
You are very bad at your job.
>>333483885
Thanks to denuvo I finally got laid!
>>333483895
>Denuvo is so good they always have these little shill-drones on here
Which is weird. Of /v/ of all places to shill drm. I doubt publishers are going to add devo because of the threads here.
>>333484064
They do it a lot here because its very-very easy compared to other places.
They do it on the other big sites too but its a lot more work to set up the fake accounts, make them a history, etc
Here, you just post DENUVO in OP, call pirates a bad namek, and a thread like this ensues, no accounts, no history, no hassle viral marketing.
>>333484064
The aim is basically just to make the average consumer think that piracy is over and head on over to buy the next DENUVO-friendly title straight away without thinking because, you know, piracy is over, might aswell just buy everything Day 1 like those people on consoles.
>>333484030
>>333484298
Yeah the next enemy is people who wait for discounts and sales. Buyfags still like to save money.
>implying piracy is a lost sale
The BRs and Ruskies who pirate the hardest are never going to be able to buy your games anyway, so why punish legitimate customers?
>>333479329
The guys at Sekai Project are considering Denuvo for their future releases. I'm going to love the anal pain when it doesn't improve sales.
>>333484161
Exactly. It takes maybe a minute of work, the rest of the work is done by the easily baited faggots of /v/.
>>333483069
No but we have laws about consent to be filmed and a government/state cannot be above its own laws.
>>333484386
Surprised this one isn't named
>denuvo-4chan-provokepicture55.jpg
>>333484792
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/7P6wYAUu7754NliAmYYzRw/
It's all devo threads.
>>333481328
>>333481680
In Europe it's illegal to film or take a picture of someone without his consent and therfore you can sue. I thought it was the case in all developed countries though
>>333483064
>he plays on hardware that sometimes goes down to 9fps and has long loading times because too cheap/too dumb to build a gaming rig
>he pays for the privilege to play online on said shit hardware
>he is stuck using only a silly gamepad
yeah.. modding is the only thing pc gaming has over consoles, right anon?
The list of games I will never buy grew by a significantly higher number that the list of games I will never play.
>>333483257
I am not the guy to who you are talking but you are making yourself look like a idiot my friend.
>muh denuvo
no way I'm buying a game with some shitty DRM that will make it unusable in 10 years from now (except for $1 humble bundle). I'll keep pirating what I can, keep catching up on my infinite backlog. Modern gaming is so cancerous with the DLC bullshit, no shitty DRM will make me buy their games.
>>333485104
You forgot:
>he paid for an already outadated at release console
>use denuvo
>sales don't improve
>stop letsplayers
>sales don't improve
What's left for these shit current-gen devs? make good games that won't be garbage? Oh hell no, that would actually require effort!
>>333479329
No thanks, I would like to be able to play a game again in 10 years if I want to or in 2 years when all my coponents will have changed
>>333485314
>stops let's players
Actually they encourage it but okay, if you say so
>>333485338
>in 10 years
Funny to hear that from someone who is probably under 20.
>>333484923
whoa
I am praying to the Denuvo gods to bless Dark Souls 3.
>>333485496
I'm 33 anon
But even if I was 20 or less, what's the problem?
>>333485338
>when all my components will have changed
Another false rumor that has no evidence of being true.
>>333485598
shhh, its ok annon, its just another shitty marketer trying to garner some attention.
just leave them be and let this crappy technology fall flat on its face.
>>333479329
why cant they use denuvo properly? like an anti-cheat engine
>It's another denuvo ``public image improvement'' thread
>>333485712
It was confirmed by a dev. He said that if you change too much your coponents Denuvo would not recognize your computer as the one from the first activation and won't let you play. You'll then have to ask for a new key to the dev.
So if the Dev was bankrupted in the meantime or they're too dumb to produce a new key, you just lost your game
>>333481378
>leftist
>>333485421
>nintendo fucks over letsplayers
>sony tries to patent letsplay to fuck people over
>somehow make believe they actually "encourage it"
So reality is just in my imagination, apparently... I'm glad there's always shills like you around to let me know reality is not reality. (sarcasm)
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/05/nintendo-kicks-lets-play-videos-off-youtube-then-slaps-ads-on-them/
https://www.vg247.com/2016/01/28/sonys-attempt-to-register-lets-play-thwarted/
>>333485898
I thought Denuvo was just anti-tamper rather than dealing with licenses/activations etc?
>>333485898
>It was confirmed by a dev
Source?
I have changed my motherboard, cpu and graphics card twice in the last year. I have no problems playing my Denuvo games on different hardware.
Just another desperate attempt by pirates to shit on Denuvo, but of course they have no actual evidence and are easily proven wrong by people who do.
>>333486016
Nintendo is the only company that takes down letsplays, all the others, including Sony, give free game to letsplayers via partnership to gain customers
>>333485945
Authoritarianism is typically leftist tripe.
>>333486063
>I play games
>On /v/
That's how I knew you were lying.
>>333486063
There was a link in another Denuvo thread last month, maybe you can find it in the archives
>>333486229
What a surprise, you are unable to provide a source.
>>333486224
Still no proof you play games.
>>333486284
>Typical 4chaner that thinks everyone save every link they encounter
Welcome to the reality mate
>>333486156
>Nintendo is the only company that takes down letsplays
Oh so you mean you were full of shit and now you're backpedaling, but not until someone had to correct you on your massive bulllshit. Ok, thanks for making that clear.
>>333486402
>one company does it
You generalize it and I corrected you and now I'm the one backpedaling? Wow anon, you're dense
>>333486402
Nintendo doesn't even take them down, they just claim the ad revenue unless you're partnered with them
>>333486156
>Sony is your friend
Didn't you read the article where they actually tried to patent the act of doing let's plays so they could sue the shit out of you, and they were stopped only because a lawfirm got involved and put them in their place?
Are you stupid or just a naive asshole?
>>333486063
I dont understand Installed on 2 different computers Tomb Raider and had 0 problems.
>>333486510
>You generalize
That would be you making believe they all love it, but then you had to accept that's not the case but only after you were corrected, otherwise you would go around with your rampant bullshitting
>>333486610
I understand you too anon. Problem don't exist until I encountered it myself.
Name one good game that uses denuvo
>>333486551
Just like Reacts, that's not the first time someone try to patent a public thing. It would have never worked anyway.
And that "patenting" refrain them to do a partnership with letsplayers? I don't think so
You're the naive one
>>333479329
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/12074241364l.jpg/
>>333483974
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/Denovo%20made%20me%20cry.jpg/
>>333484386
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/7P6wYAUu7754NliAmYYzRw/
It's amazing.
>>333486674
>Generalization is when you take a non-general thing and make it general.
If one company doesn't encourage letsplays, the general direction is still to encourage letsplays
Please anon, stop hurting yourself and stop writing replies
>>333485867
Atomic Handball
>>333480461
>>333481184
So you're saying that CCTV cams are not essential in public safety, traffic management, and evidence gathering? It's just a tool you moron, It's the authority abuses this tools that you should get rid off.
>>333486695
>patenting "lets plays" wouldn't have mattered. It's actually a good thing anon, you are so naive!
Go drink some liquid drano or at least neuter yourself to spare the next generation of your stupidity
>>333479329
good job on killing yourselves with this butthurt remedies that are so good at improving sales and the shitty state of your rehashed and totally not bug free games and ports
You will not be missed
>>333486878
>I didn't mean all, when I clearly generalized, I meant "the general direction"
Keep backpedaling faggot. It's amusing to force shitheads like you to split hairs. It's what you get for trying to be deceptive.
>>333487018
you're legit brainwashed
>>333487065
You're good at misreading aren't you
>>333484386
>this image macro will shut him up and allow me to claim victory for sure
>>333483025
>>333483379
Just look, just look at that list of extremely successful games. Clearly by defeating pirates those games are such a success!
>>333487246
You still don't get the definition of generalization apparently.
The fact I said all companies encourage letsplays is not a generalization give that they all encourage except maybe one (in fact Nintendo doesn't even takes down vids, they only ask for the ads money)
The fact you claimed companies put a stop at letsplays is a generalization given that only one does it (and not really like I wrote before)
I find it hilarious that cancerous AAA games which use Denuvo fall off the face of the earth so fast, and they're never heard from again just a few days after they're released.
I can think of a few that shills don't brag about their sales numbers at all because they're so embarrassed. I guess in a way, Denuvo also kills cancer.
Bump for tears.
>>333479329
im a buy fag and i´d rather not have shit DRM that wont work a decade later
>>333479329
Victim blaming.
This is nobody's fault but Sony's.
I wouldn't really care that much if I was a pirate but because I'm a honest costumer I care very much. Too many times copy protection on disks has fucked me over in the past even though I bought the game legit from the developers. Piratefags spit on the faces of developers and costumers. Unless you are super poor, you have no excuse and should be gased.
>>333483064
dragon age inquisition has denuvo and it has mods, mgs5 doesn't have mods cause no one made mod tools
>>333481378
You must smoke weed and be a self proclaimed conspiracy theorists
>>333480461
>in public spaces it's clearly invasion of privacy
>In public
>invasion of privacy
Do you ever read what you write?
>uncrackable vidya
>I still don't buy it
S-s-so this is the power of DRM
>>333494743
Doesn't matter if you still don't buy it. You no longer get to play it for free.
>upgrade rig after 5 years
>piracy dies shortly after
kill me
>>333494825
The logic behind DRM is that it makes people buy it instead of pirating it.
>>333494979
That's not the logic at all
You don't key lock on a lamborghini because you are trying to convince people who don't buy lamborghinis to buy it instead
>>333495915
Lamborghini is not a digital product.
>>333497114
What difference does that make? Just because it is digital doesn't mean you should be able to get it for free.
>>333497292
The problem with these games is not that they are commercial. (We see nothing wrong with that.) It is not that the developers sell copies; that's not wrong either. The problem is that the games contain software that is not free (free in the sense of freedom, of course).
>>333497292
Makes all the difference. A digital copy don't cause deficits to the original owner. Me getting away with a lamborghini is a millionare dollar damage.
As far as "shoulds" and "shouldn't" is concerned, offcourse both are illegal. But thinking in pure capital terms, you're basically investing money to fight against something that don't cause damage to you. In fact, in the age that we live, more people that know your product, no matter how, the better.
HBO is a great example of this. GOT is one of the most pirated series, but they don't fight it, because it actually spreads the word around and make people more interested in it, boosting their subscriber numbers.
>>333498058
Holy shit, non of that matters. You are not entitled to get things for free.
It is about time you fags got a wake up call and realized that if you want something you have to pay for it.
always the biggest faggots in these denuvo threads. capping for these companies.
>>333480461
I guess you want every nigger to get away with their random crimes?
>>333498695
Wrong. All of that matters.
Because fighting piracy costs money. It's an investment. And if the return is simply a moral high ground, then it's a bad investment.
>>333498907
You keep telling yourself that kiddo. You are the reason Denuvo exists, enjoy not being able to pirate games anymore.
>>333498975
You clearly need some 10 years to mature your brain and understand the issue at hand. Please refrain from discussing it until then.
>>333499143
There are no issues apart from your desperate attempt to justify piracy.
Look at where your piracy has gotten you. It has lead to stricter DRM and Denuvo, no is to blame for this other than you
No, you shouldn't be allowed to pirate games. Pirates for a long time have had it far to easy being able to pirate every game with ease.
Now that you can't you are coming out with all kinds of bullshit, simple fact is you are not entitled to get things for free.
Time for you to mature and learn that if you want something you have to pay for it.
>>333499489
There is no defense at hand. That's just how it works. You mistake for thinking i have something at stake here. I'm just discussing how piracy affects the digital industry with you.
People pirated movies through VHS. Music through mp3 and cassette recorders. Games since CD's were invented and even cartridges had bootleg versions.
So you ask me to look around. Sure, let's look around. All 3 became billionaire industry. Game became one of the biggest industries in the whole world.
All of those industries fought piracy when the digital world became a thing. But time is a valuable teacher and they learned to not only live but profit from it.
But please, keep on that superficial level thinking this is about ethics, morals or legislation.
>>333479329
It's not like I'll buy denuvo games anyway.
Most shit I enjoyed playing past couple of years was indie anyway.
