http://www.destructoid.com/doom-s-post-launch-dlc-detailed-includes-40-season-pass-353568.phtml
>Doom, a game that is five weeks from release, has at least $45 worth of post-launch content planned. Never mind the fact that we don't have any idea if Doom will actually be any good. If you're buyin', they're sellin'. The cart is in front of the horse, Bethesda.
>In a press release issued this morning, Bethesda outlined its plans for Doom DLC. Three "premium multiplayer packs" will arrive in the months following launch. The first one is scheduled for the summer and includes: three maps, one weapon, one playable demon, one armor set, one piece of equipment, new hack modules and taunts, and new customization colors and patterns. Each multiplayer pack will be $14.99.
Vote with your wallet and don't buy this turd.
>Each multiplayer pack will be $14.99
>>333463146
>season pass is almost as expensive as game
>New playable demons and weapons to be sold
They fucked up
>>333463146
Jews will be Jews. What's new?
I'm too busy playing awesome new .wads to pay attention to this abortion of a reboot.
I'm pirating it anyways. After playing the beta, I couldn't give two shits about the multiplayer. I'm still interested in the single player though, the story leak had me grinning like an edgy middle schooler.
>>333463146
Urghh....
This shit didn't work with Call Of Duty, nobody liked the "Premium maps", but they were only successful because it was COD.
This is Doom, this will not work; no one is going to pay for fucking multiplayer maps for a game that should've been a single player game, with multiplayer.
Fuck, I hate Bethesda.
Was going to buy this, but I'm going to pirate the shit out of it.
Evolve 2: DOOMguy boogaloo
>>333463369
Then gimme some good newer wads to play pham. Pls no obvious ones like cacowards winners which I already know about. I also have done most of the wads in the "recommended wads" image that gets posted all the time
>>333463146
I only care about the campaign. A proper expansion pack/singleplayer dlc would be nice.
>>333463146
>I started building a PC for this
>Multiplayer DLC
Wow who gives a shit? I just want Single Player so I can shoot demons in the highest visual fidelity.
>playing doom for multiplayer
>>333463751
Use it for Serious Sam 4 (which will allegedly be a GPU destroyer and have the largest maps and enemy counts in the series) or the Space Hulk FPS by the EYE devs. You're gonna need a new PC anyways
It's funny how if there was no DLC, no one would bitch. But because there's OPTIONAL content in a season pass, entitled children will complain.
Newsflash you dense morons: AAA budgets are swelling up yearly, while games are not only not rising in price to match the budget increase, they're actually getting CHEAPER. And since you entitled manchildren think that a game with dozens of hours of quality content from blood, sweat, and tears of hundreds of devs isn't worth more than a lousy $5 on a Steam sale, or for some of you scumbag pirates, $0 because you just fucking steal it, THIS is how they have to earn their damn money back. God forbid a huge dev team actually be able to eat and support their family after pouring their time and effort into a massive project like this.
>>333463621
Been playing Bloodstained, No Sleep for the Dead, DooD (even though it's primarily a meme April Fools wad, it's has new maps and changes the old ones heavily), and the Japanese Doom Community Project.
>>333463871
>The source code for SS1 was released recently
Source port when?
>>333463874
go to bed Todd
>>333463874
>actually took the effort to type a bait this long
wew lad
here's a pity (You)
>>333463874
>blocking players who didn't pay for "DLC" from playing with other players with the "DLC" maps is a good idea.
Go bait somewhere else, nigger.
>>333464063
>>333464103
Nice rebuttal, quality youtube-like comments
How much do you guys wanna bet the paid demons and gun will be p2w as fuck
Also I'm surprised they're banking so much on this game's MP's success. It felt fun but nothing special to me
>>333464234
shut the fuck up you retarded faggot
>>333463874
Maybe the devs shouldn't work for a business model where they only get paid after they are done working.
>>333463874
who could be behind this post?
>>333463874
You know, I would gladly play this game if the DLC was the only problem.
Unfortunately, this is neo-Bethesda and post-2007 game industry we're talking about.
I wish people would just collectively stop buying these games with season passes on release day so publishers would eventually stop. We have the power to manipulate the free market and as consumers we don't even take advantage of it and instead accept every bullshit practices these companies come up with.
>>333463331
Its destiny, right? Titanfall did it first and their designs were bearable.
>>333465060
Fuck off idiot. Not buying season passes wouldn't stop season passes from appearing, it would just cause studio closures in the short term, and an MSRP increase of game prices in the long term.
>>333463331
Please tell me that isn't DOOM
>>333465340
>implying bethesda closing would be a bad thing
>>333463146
>. Each multiplayer pack will be $14.99.
HOL UP
>>333465340
>season passes are the reason these game devs stay afloat.
No.
>>333465340
Things will never get better if you start believing that kind of bullshit.
>>333465409
Fuck off idiot, this goes a lot deeper than your childish hatred of one particular company.
>>333463874
>AAA budgets are swelling up yearly
Its true but doesnt really have anything to do with anything but bad business practice.
Witcher 3 was the best RPG to come out in possibly ever, had less than a quarter of other, more restrictive games budgets. Then they released expansions that actually added good shit to the game, after provided some free DLC.
Metro: Last Light was one of the best single player shooters to come out in a long ass time and that only cost 5 hot pockets and a couple frozen ukrainians.
This game will probably be a passable shooter, but it will also have an amazingly ballooned budget.
>>333465565
Kys shill
>>333465545
I don't buy them, but when the alternate is less risky games developed and more rehashed garbage, a games MSRP increase, and studio closures, I'll fully support a publisher's decision to include them.
>>333465650
Kys edgy white atheist teenager
>>333465583
this, its not that budgets are getting retarded, its that they are pointlessly getting retarded.
better games can be made with less people and with less money, but, the AAA companies can't do that for one reason.
you can't "Conveyor Belt" a game out every year without a huge list of idiots who can only do 1 thing on your team.
Video Games were never supposed to be "mass produced" like they are now, through infinite sequels yearly.
>>333463874
maybe if they didnt sink half a billion on marketing then it wouldnt be so bad
>>333465765
For every success story, you see dozens of failures. Sequels and unimaginative, unrisky games are a safe option, and this is why microtransactions and season passes are good (WHEN PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED, let me just get that out of the way) because they allow for more niche and risky games to succeed. This is also why I fully support a digital future because margins are better, especially with deep sales.
>>333463874
games have been overpriced for years. stop bitching. nes games used to be 50 bucks, and you had no clue if they were good or not. 140 dollars for a videogame is absurd. they purposely realease unfinished games b/c theyre too lazy to make anything great and want to jew the system
>>333465837
Marketing budget has a direct impact on revenue. One of the fastest ways to a massive blunder is little or poor marketing. Even Witcher didn't see mainstream success until they went to consoles and spent tens of millions on marketing
>>333463146
>DOOM DLC
>Multiplayer Focus
Have fun alienating your entire fanbase, Bethesda.
>>333465690
We're already in a situation where original ideas for new IP's are thrown out because they don't bode well with investors. Games were $60 on release without season passes like half a decade ago and were still profitable to keep the industry afloat, there's no reason we can't go back to that. Maybe some pissy publishers would close some studios in the wake of people not buying their season pass bullshit but I'm willing to take that sacrifice if it means we don't get double charged in the future.
Why is this game not quake 3 with demons?.
Can't help but think of the evolve fiasco
>$45 dollars worth of post-release content
i'm starting to hate myself for convincing two bros to get this game with me.
>>333465975
the video game market got strong off the back of actually well made games and not the Sequalitis we are living in now, which is causing a huge slump.
Giant mega-companies with their Giant-Mega budgeted game (that lasts 4 hours) are the parasite leeching off the past to make their profits.
that's why we only get sequels and remakes of games from glory's past.
hence "Doom 4" here, it will be an entirely forgettable single player game living off the name Doom, crafted by a bunch of code-monkies who don't give a single shit about it.
>>333465765
I mean...the budget for Skyrim was ~100 million, with development and marketing.
Witcher 3 was ~81 million after development and marketing.
Just compare those games in actual scope, variety of content, overall fucking polish and quality. Skyrim doesn't even come fucking close.
>>333463874
games are only swelling in price because of ~~Marketing~~
there is no god damn reason these games need upper multi million dollar budgets in the 8 or 9 figure range.
>>333465975
>and this is why microtransactions and season passes are good (WHEN PROPERLY IMPLEMENTED, let me just get that out of the way) because they allow for more niche and risky games to succeed
Got any good examples?
>>333466198
The cost of AAA development has increased substantially in recent years while price has decreased.
>>333466441
Rainbow Six Siege.
More niche and risky game with a well implemented microtransaction/season pass that allowed it to achieve greater financial success.
>>333463874
>>333463621
>xp
>>333466535
>rainbow six
>niche
>tactical fps
>risky
Is this real life? Imma need you to try harder than that.
>>333466446
You're going to have to give proof that 2016 games are made with a bigger budget than 2011 games because technology has hardly advanced since 7th gen.
>>333466535
>Tac-shooter multiplayer game
> Niche
> Risky
my god, anon, are you.. fucking with me?
>>333466758
Fuck off with your shitty bait. It's one of the best and most refreshing unique multilayer shooters in years.
Will Classic Doomguy be a wearable skin?
>>333466892
I didnt make a comment on if it was good or bad you salty tart, it simply isnt very niche or risky.
So you want to back up your claim or admit youre a dunce?
>yfw
>>333463146
>DLC
>Season pass
don't worry guys our bugfixes will be free xDD
>>333466847
The industry is consolidating to AAA monoliths and indies/kickstarters, with little room for AA in the middle.
With the exception of devs like Rockstar, seems most of the innovation nowadays comes from indie devs.
>>333467115
>With the exception of devs like Rockstar, seems most of the innovation nowadays comes from indie devs.
>Rockstar
>innovation
>>333467115
>With the exception of devs like Rockstar
Serious question - what have they really been innovating lately? Making good games and innovating are not the same thing.
>>333465340
>it would just cause studio closures in the short term, and an MSRP increase of game prices in the long term.
thats a good thing let the industry crash and be seen as unprofitable so the people that try to enter will more likely be passion driven instead of monitarily driven
>>333467115
>with little room for AA in the middle.
>What is Kickstarter?
>>333467219
Put more effort into your pathetic excuse of bait and maybe I'll give a proper response.
>>333467334
>>333467270
I did it for him, so go ahead.
>>333467270
>Making good games
Snapmap is going to allow us to have unlimited free content anyways
Just ignore the season pass and play player created maps. I did the same for every halo game and never ran out of new stuff.
>>333465347
It's actually_____DOOM.
>>333466229
Have you played any of the demos or previous betas? This game is the epitome of soulless boring FPS games. Even Titanfall looks like a masterpiece compared to this boring piece of shit.
>>333463146
they need to look at halo 5 and rainbow six siege on dlc
right now they are looking at evolve
Can you still get the leaked alpha with bots and that one square snapmap room?
Has someone made a pack/installer that has you go through fewer hoops to play? The closed beta had actually less content than the leak, hence why I wanna try it
>>333463146
Say what you want about 343i but offering all of maps for free for Halo 5 was the best thing for the community. Yeah the microtransactions were a little sleazy but at least they don't have a $45 season pass that's going to fuck the community.
Fuck this shit. Idiots will keep buying it so they will keep selling it. The full game at launch is $105.
Fuck this industry. Fuck Bethesda. Fuck everyone.
>>333467924
as much as I don't like 343i that was fucking great of them man
>>333463146
I'm probably too late but archive link for easy reading
http://archive.is/WipvF
new meme?
>>333467924
Fuck off retard. I have bought maybe 5-10 pieces of DLC in my entire life and I've never felt games are getting skimpier on content because of DLC. If anything I can get great games for dirt cheap on PSN and Steam sales, then pick up an expansion later down the line if I really enjoyed the game. Literally just don't fucking buy the DLC if it doesn't interest you. New Vegas, Resogun, The Evil Within, Civ V, GTAIV, etc. only a select few games actually have worthwhile DLC.
>>333469113
Is Destructoid cancerous or something? Typically you do that for RPS, Polygon, Cucktaku or some similarly disgusting site
>>333463146
HE HAS NO CELLS
HE HAS NO SLUGS
THIS KONG
WILL RIP & TEAR YOUR GUTS
>>333470024
I do it with every game journo type site because I can
>>333463146
>45 USD of DLC planned
People are not going to support this, right?
Oh sad, I'll have to wait then, I don't buy early access games.
>>333463146
>" open multiplayer beta will take place from April 15 through April 17 on all platforms. Let's start there and take it one step at a time, okay?"
>Works for semi-major gaming website
>somehow wasn't invited or for some reason avoided the closed alpha and beta.
The season pass probably will be a ripoff but this dude made zero effort to try the game.
>>333470627
You has to preorder Wolf TNO like a million years ago to get into the latest closed beta. The Alpha was was raffle-style, you sent your email and had to getlucky
>>333470771
C'mon, it shouldn't be hard at all for a gaming outlet such as theirs to receive an alpha or beta code.
Also you could just walk into gamestop last weekend and ask for a beta code, free of charge.
If this dude really wanted to play the game he could have pulled his destructoid weight around or just went to a gamestop like any other person.
>>333467636
>DOOM taking the fucking Advanced Warfare route
>Unironically
Hooooooly shit I need some .wads because FUCK THAT
>>333470771
I remember getting into the Alpha. Problem was, I was retarded and said "I'm playing this on an Xbox". They sent me access codes for the XBone and I couldn't even get mad.
>>333471394
there's only so much innovation possible with space marine designs man.
>>333470437
People buy into it, that's why it exists in the first place.
>>333471539
Yeah but like... why not do something Valve hasn't popularized?
>>333463146
pretty funny how disgustingly and obvious it is how Bethesda are trying to become the next big publisher like Activision.
shame, they should just give their IP to actual good developers. Fallout 4 should have went to obsidian.
>>333463874
just like how obvious base game was ripped from fallout 4 for shitty DLC?
>>333463874(you)
Because you actually baited people
>>333463506
hopefully that snapmap stuff isn't shit, the base gameplay seems pretty good, just wish some of the animations weren't so jerky and weird looking
>>333465340
>shit developers
>closing
lol
>>333471701
True. They are coming back with another E3 presser this year...
