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Am I the only one sick and tired of the oversaturation of 2D
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Am I the only one sick and tired of the oversaturation of 2D platformers on Nintendo systems nowadays? I want to be able to play more open 3D platformers that let you really explore your surroundings. 2D platformers feel like a step backwards.
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Considering we had basically no console 2D platformers from the N64 on I'm totally fine with the "oversaturation".
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That image reminds me, why do people make shitty looking "remakes" of Nintendo levels or areas in UE4?
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>>333453575
>play more open 3D platformers that let you really explore your surroundings
play assasin creed then
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>>333454013
Because graphics only look good when you turn up the polys to max and add a shit load of blur and bloom. Regardless of whether or not the art styles clash.
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i think thats just nintendo reaching out to the core audience
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What the fuck're you talking about
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Apples and oranges, OP.
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It's just cheaper to make shitty 2D games than it is fully blown 3D environments. Nintendo has really been cutting corners ever since they realized Wii U bombed. We're not getting any of the good shit. Even 3DW was more of a 2D game than anything else
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>>333453575


3d platformers are coming back, unfortunately, most of them are indieshit like this
>>333457336
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i hate the oversaturation of green
holy fuck there's so much green in modern ninty games and it's all the same shade every time
i'm gonna vomit
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>>333457336
Literally no one likes your game, anon. Keep that shit in your containment threads.
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>>333457807
Thats just some fan mock up, if you really want to feel sick look at the Zelda UE videos
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Can't be helped. It was their first foray into HD gaming development. Like most Nip devs, it took time to get used to and they' done suprisngly OK. I guarantee you they got a 3D Mario for NX coming. Last gen was disastrous. These devs just jumping in head first and embarrassing themselves and not budgeting correctly and even releasing half finished garbage.
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>>333453974

>Yoshi's Story
>Mischief Makers

Instead you got two good ones.
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>>333458006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTfrKOQFPNA

what the FUCK
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>>333458006
i know, but it looks similar
it's like the entire nintendo world is a golf course
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>>333458830
Thats because they play golf there, duh.
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>>333458561
Man those are good graphics and all, but it looks so dull and generic artistically. There are ten million other games that look identical to that.

Still, I think if one Nintendo game would benefit from graphical fidelity like that, it'd be Zelda. Maybe Metroid too.
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>>333458487
Don't forget Goemon's Great Adventure and Kirby 64.
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>>333458561
Imagine if Pokémon Sun and Moon looked like this.
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>>333458912
Zelda still needs more style than what these UE4 indies can handle, one artist at Epic did draw a concept for Metroid once though.
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>>333453575
just you fucking wait
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>>333453974
This. For years it seemed like 2D platformers were dead, and the "oversaturation" of them on Wii U has helped make it the best console I've had since the SNES. Shovel Knight was my GOTY 2014.
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>>333455164
There are too many 2D platforming games on Nintendo consoles; that's what he's angry about.

But it doesn't matter if it's 2D or 3D, if the game is bad, then no change in dimension will save it.
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>>333458561
I don't get why these fanmade things piss you people off. Naturally it doesn't look like Nintendo, the professional game designers, made it. All these fan videos is show what a high definition Zelda could look like, they're not saying they're better than the official titles or graphically or artistically superior.

http://youtu.be/GSeLdQASixE

Look me in the face and tell me this doesn't atleast look cool.
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>>333453575
Well, people like 2D Nintendo games.
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>>333459232
I literally forgot about this

When is there going to be news of it, yet?
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>>333459110

if you think it looks good at all go back to fucking reddit

>>333459587

because it looks like shit, retard
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>>333459587
It looks cool but also like a tech demo
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>>333459650
They want to keep its development secret, like the old days of game development.
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>>333453575
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>>333459232
Gonna be good. Was originally going to get it on wiiU, but fuck Jewish amiibo autism DLC company, I'm gonna get it for xbone
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>>333453974
Too bad a good part are 2.5D and most of them look so generic.
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>>333453575
>oversaturation of 2D platformers on Nintendo systems
That's your claim, now show there's too many 2D games compared to 3D.
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The only 2D platformers you need are DKC tropical freeze and shovel knight


FUCK new super Mario Bros. What a lazy, shitty series, only the first one was any good.
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>>333460871
the same it applies towards mos of the generic 3d platformers seen on gen 5 and 6
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>>333458912
You shitting me? That's how OoT remaster should look like instead that lazy port Nintendo made on the 3DS
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>>333459692
It looks absolutely amazing, though. It would take millions to develop a Zelda game that looked that good, but I'd happily pay a hundred buckaroos for something that looked that good but it needs a better FOV or a slider, and should have at least 45 FPS
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>>333461259
What makes the 3DS OoT "lazy?"
And are you really comparing a pc 'game' to a 3DS portable title?
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Platformers in general are a dying genre. There's very few 3D or 2D platformers of any quality. Kirby is the only reliable source for high quality 2D platforming, since Mega Man bit the dust.

We just need another second coming of Christ to revitalize the genre, like Cave Story did for Metroidvania.
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>>333460723
>taking sides with COMPANIES of all things
Holy shit
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I was just thinking today about how much I wanted a new Mario game like 64 or sunshine
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>>333453575

I love it. I think it's the best route Nintendo can go. Something a lot of young faggots seem to not know is that no matter how bland New SMB Wii was it was a major AAA holiday 2D platformer on a home console in a time when that just did not dominate the market. The magic of being there for the release hides a lot of its flaws.

Of course, the Wii also had a new Wario Land game. Also a bit disappointing, really. But still, it was great to have a chance to see the Wii shift in that direction because Epic Mickey was a bust. Marios were the only good 3D platformers for the system, Fuck deBlob. Meanwhile A Boy and His Blob, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Murumasa, Epic Yarn and the other Kirby all played to the system hardware strength.

And they gotten significantly better at 2D games over the years. Many would say Trpoical Freeze is a genre GOAT. Triple Deluxe is creative as hell. They've been training those 2D skills up again and they're are once again one of the biggest contributors of quality 2D fare.
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>>333453575
3D plaftformers suck. 2D or nothing
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>>333453575
>open 3D platformers that let you really explore your surroundings.
You mean like Rise of Tomb Raider or Assassin's Creed?
3d plarformers evolved long ago, wake up.
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>>333461545

If dubs we get a Waluigi game
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>>333466936
You know there are no dubs on /v/ right?
That was your plan all along, wasn't it?
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>>333457336
I must have missed some overgrowth updates.
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>>333457995
At least he's making one, unlike an underachieving crybaby like you.
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>>333458487
Both those games are mediocre as fuck.

Mischief makers might be one of those most overrated games ever made.
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>>333461545
>like Cave Story did for Metroidvania.

Cave Story was good. But didn't it cause a lot of people to make shitty metroidvanias, which I'm not even sure if Cave Story would qualify as one but that's another argument, trying to chase it?
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>>333467084

I failed him.
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>>333461545
Cave story is shit

DKCR games, shovel knight and rayman already revitalised the genre.
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>>333453575
I don't particularly prefer one to the other, but I agree there's an oversaturation of them on the Wii U.
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>>333467739
Is this fucking bait?
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>>333459003
both goemon games on the 64 were fucking badass
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>>333453575
nintendo doesn't have what it takes to make an exploration based non linear 3d platformer anymore.

The last one we got is almost 3 generations old by their count.
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>>333459692
i think your perspective is broken, why dont you post an example of not looking like shit?
because this is damned pretty. i dont know what criteria you are judging on.
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>>333468514

Does Nintendo have it in them to make a decent 1080 game? Can we even trust them with that? I'm still bitter about Paper Mario.
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>>333457336

you really need to work on your jump physics, that is waaaayyyy too floaty
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>>333468840
They don't give a fuck what any of their fans want once they turn 16.

Easily one of the worst examples of an out of touch company I can think of.
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>>333461451
it's ok, children rarely understand concepts like hardware limitations

>>333461545
a better analogy would be castle crashers and 2d brawlers. Mvs were already on the rise when cave story came out. castle crashers was the first 2d brawler in almost a decade, and now they're back again.

>>333453575
a step backwards? dude, people still play cards, but computer games exist. just because we've made a new thing doesnt mean the old thing is not good anymore.
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>>333461262
It looks like trash dude. Are you serious? Like a bunch of random stuff copied from other games pasted into a stiff ridged "Zelda game" with a soulless and stuff link that controls like a TPS.
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>>333461262
Bait
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>>333469204
they are super in touch. but what you dont realize is that they do what they know will sell the best.
2d platformers sell like a motherfucker, so they make a bunch. then everyone says they want new and different. nintendo makes new and different, it doesnt sell.
nintendo goes back to doing what makes them money..... 2d platformers.

what the fans want, and what the fans buy are not the same thing, and they're tired of making expensive mistakes because we ask them to.
deal with it.
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>>333469513
so what you're saying is that because the motion animations could be better, all the visuals are ruined? like i should remind myself that "no brain, you think that grass looks better than it did on the n64, but you're wrong. because the lack of facial animations on link have destroyed the inherent visual appeal of all things that share a screen."

yeah, that sounds totally legit.
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>>333469675
>>333469675
>but what you dont realize is that they do what they know will sell the best.
I guess that explains the whole wii u and their shrinking market share, huh?
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>>333470005
>not understanding the effect atmosphere and animations have on the visuals of a game
sure, buddy
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>>333469675
2D platformers weren't their bread and butter since the snes.

They weren't even the biggest draw of the wii, that was driven by fad people coming after wii fit and wii sports who never really touched the system after that.
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>bad controls
>bad camera
>therefore bad gameplay
3d platformers are garbage.

Get over it, children. Your childhood gaming experiences were shit, lazy games directed at non-gamers that didn't know any better.

Gaming died in the mid-90s, and congratufuckinglations for being the "gamers" that came out of that.
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man, nowaday is all 3D, 2D is mostly only used by indie games
now that we have mastered 2D, why aren't there as many non-indie 2D games as there used to be?
why does it all have to be
>DURR GRAPHICS
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>>333453575
>tfw still waiting for Wii U's 3d platformer Mario
No, shut up; fuck 3D World.
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>>333470768
>gaming died in the mid-90s
lol
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>>333459587
This looks disgusting and the original 64 version just works so much better. It just feels irritating seeing so many lighting and particle effects shoved in there for the sake of it, as if that is what was always supposed to be impressive about it. The sense of space and color composition is de-emphasized.

Yet look at all the people in the comments who are like "this is the way I always imagined it looked"!
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>>333472516
>the original 64 version just works so much better
Nostalgia: the post.
The original N64 game looks like hot fucking garbage.
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2D platformers are fine.
I just wish 2D Mario was allowed to be good like DK and Kirby.

Also I wish Mario wasn't the only platformer that's allowed to go 3D. Let Kirby and DK try it for once.
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>>333457336
Nice little prototype, but that jump is Little Big Planet levels of terrible.
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>Mario
>Banjo
>Spyro
>Sonic Adventure titles
>Crash Bandicoot
>Gex

It hurts /v/
Why did they have to die?
Why did this whole genre have to die?
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>>333461545
Indie games caused a huge ass boom in 2D platformers, what are you talking about? YOu can see plenty of quality 2D platformers everywhere, unless you just have stupidly high standards or something.
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>>333460723
>I don't want to support this company I think is bad
>I know, I'll give money to MICROSOFT
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>>333472930

Just cross your fingers for an 3D Mario launch title for the NX

Or play 3D World, it's good, even if it isn't like a traditional 3D Mario
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>>333472718
I'm not at all denying that the 64 version deserves to be cleaned up from what it is, but the composition of the game and the effect it has when you actually play it is marvelous. The UE4 mock up of the temple avoids the intended sense of timelessness that the original achieves in its simplicity. It only 'looks better' on a shallow, surface level, the additional lighting achieves nothing of value.
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>>333459350
Shovel Knight is a multiplat, so it doesn't count as a Wii U game
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>>333472772
DK did try it. All we got was re-skinned Banjo-Kazooie: Now with more backtracking.
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

Why wasn't New Super Mario Brothers U included as a pack-in-game with the Wii U?
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>>333473265
Nintendo Land was a better demonstration of things that could be done with the Gamepad.
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>>333473402
Yeah, but it was only included with the Premium system.
NSMBU should've been included with both Basic and Premium. Basic shouldn't have included the gamepad, allowing it to be closer to a $200 price point.
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>>333473195

That was one game, and it was a different time. Even the former rare guys know what they did was wrong. The game would have been fine if any Kong could pick up any bananas or coins

Let's see modern day Retro studios make DK in 3D.
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>>333473473
>Basic shouldn't have included the gamepad
But anon, if they did that how were they supposed to push their "innovation"?
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>>333473529
If the gamepad wasn't mandatory, then no game could've required it. Consequently, all games would be designed as single-screen experiences, and thus be compatible with off-screen play.
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>>333473515
>mfw those 3D multi-track cart sections in Tropical Freeze
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>>333453575
>oversaturation

game having more colors than your average games nowadays with grays and color filters =/= oversaturation
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>>333474942
Dumb penguinposter
Learn to read
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>>333475006
God damnit, time t go to sleep
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>>333453575
I just want a remaster of SM64 already
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>>333476225
who doesn't want a new and improved version of superman 64
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>>333476863
Can't improve perfection anon
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>>333453974
>this is great!
don't kid yourself

the only reason why we have an oversaturation of 2d platformers and no more 3d platformers is because they are infinetly easier to make, cost nintendo a lot less money to make, sell about the same, and nintendo is lazy.
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>>333476225
We already got that.
It even had new playable characters and extra stars.
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>>333458561
nintendo has given up in the graphics department. their fans have been convinced that shittier cartoony and cell shaded graphics are actually "artistically better" than your video. when in actuality it stems from nintendo's complete and utter laziness.
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>>333477181
remake ≠ remaster
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>>333477030
>>333477214
Do you need to post your shitty charts so often?
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>>333459350
>Shovel Knight was my GOTY 2014.

I can't believe it will have been over 1.5 years before I can play it on my Wii U. Fucking Japan.
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>>333477214
Half the things on the right look undeniably better, who the fuck actually thinks Brawl looks better than Sm4sh or OOT looks better than OOT3D? Fucking lmao, get out of here and take your autismal chart with you.
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>>333477214
Most of this is just bait for nintendrones but
>metroid
That's sadly 100% true. I bet my ass if they're ever gonna make metroid 5 it's going to be chibishit
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>>333453974
Nintendo or in general?

>Yoshi's Story
>Jungle Beat
>The 2D sections of Four Sowrd Adventures
>Megaman 8
>Mega Man Network Transmission
>Klonoa 2
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>>333453575
I hated it when Ubisoft did it. I'm still waiting for Rayman 4, so where the fuck is it?
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