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Show how games in a series are rated. This one is for Fallout.
but the original fallout is the best
>NV over 2
>>333420434
Template
None of the post-Bethesda games are good. NV had an interesting premise and structure, but the engine's just too shitty tohave any fun therein.
>>333420434
NV is not better than Fallout 1 and 2, you retarded faggot.
>>333420548
>>333420878
2 and 1 will always have superiour atmosphere and story due to game design. They're great, but I don't think you realize how much I love New Vegas. I want to FUCK New Vegas. I want to pound the Mojave so hard it starts to sweat and creates nuclear winter.
>>333421462
I'm glad you love New Vegas. Gamebryo still shits the bed. Maybe if a group of fans made an isometric demake, then I'd be bothered to play it.
>>333420434
>NV better than 1 and 2
How can someone be this delusional?
>>333421254
>WoD higher than anything. How fucking new are you?
>>333421689
>Not enjoying best game of decade because of slightly old engine
Why live anon?
>>333420434
>Fallout 4 equal to Fallout 3
You're wrong, it's substantially worse.
>>333421254
>mop on par with vanilla
>wod that high
>>333421996
Questing was food, fagsquat.
>>333422390
The questing that took less than a day you mean?
>10 hours of content is fine for an MMO
>>333422042
>he fell for the 'Fallout 4 is bad' meme
top kek
https://youtu.be/bKJSC_mteIg
>>333422812
Sure as hell ain't New vegas levels of good.
>>333422812
The problem isn't that it is 'bad' as a standalone. The problem is that it is worse than its predecessors.
If fallout 4 was the first fallout game it would be great, but its not, so its just a shallow and uninspiring game.
>>333422912
As someone who hasn't played any Guild Wars, explain to me what Heart of Thorns did so wildly incorrectly.
>>333423259
Its what it didn't do, which is to say just about everything.
>>333422812
>>333423063
>>333422974
but it is bad. I ve played every fallout there is, even BoS. There is no meme, it is simply the Skyrim of the fallout series.
>>333423259
Grinding added behind grind wall,
Full expansion that only add four new maps with rewards being bags with more bags inside of them.
You have to grind 58 million exp if you want all masteries unlocked,
Almost no new armor and weapon sets in game, everything getting released in the cash shop, but to get weapon skins, you have to get tickets for them, which only drop from RNG chests that you have to buy keys on the cash shop OR rarely drop in game with a 0,0000000001% drop rate.
Whole expansion storyline can be done in less than one hour and half,
>>333422042
For all of Fallout 4's faults, it's still miles better than that turd Fallout 3.
>>333421254
Why do people think MoP was on par with any other expansion other than cata? The only decent raid for heroic content was Throne of Thunder. Everything else was pure trash.
>>333425336
this
you memers need to just stop
>>333422812
voltaire was fucking right
just shut it down
>1 not the highest
>4 not worse than 3
>>333424681
Is doom 64 that good ? Still have the old cartridge but I've never played itBecause i was scared of first person shooters when i was a kid
>>333427250
It is, the level design are superb. It's basically Doom 1 with a spooky atmosphere that puts 3 to shame and the super shotgun added.
You're better off playing Doom 64 EX for PC, though.
>>333426119
3 is an absolute abomination. From the writing, to the gameplay, to the artstyle; there isn't a single redeeming factor to be found. At least 4 has functional gameplay, colors that aren't puke green, and power armor that isn't just generic clothing with a stat boost.
>>333426948
Super should be down there with Sticker Star.
>>333427250
It's good. If i remember, there's a way to turn a Doom 64 N64 rom into a .WAD and play it on pc with keyboard and mouse.
>>333421254
>MoP that high
>Cata that low
end it
>>333427679
nope
>>333427575
>>333427709
Awesome. I played Doom and Doom II some years ago and have been wanting to play some Wolfenstein/doom again.
Thanks guys. Guess I'll pop the cartridge and get on PC when the N64 controller will piss me off. iirc you have to use the dpad so that's fucking awkward
>>333428382
this is right anon
>>333422020
>old engine
Old isn't the problem. The problem is that the game is fucking busted because of it.
>>333428839
Honestly replaying Bloodborne a year later it's right up there with DeS and DaS for me. Fantastic game.
>>333421254
>vanilla 10
>tbc 8
I wear the nostalgia goggles and these are the numbers I read
>>333429183
Shit my eyesight bad
Let me fix that
>>333429183
Third gen should definetely be higher up, it introduced way too much stuff and improved on most of the issues, plus it had an interesting story and the legendaries felt powerful. I am currently replaying all the games, never played bw/bw2, doing that now and can't too much into them. Somehow I don't feel the magic of 4th 5th gen games.
>>333429961
Halo 2 was a shit, one was way better.
>>333420434
XCOM 2 is still a disappointment though.
>>333430827
The bureau wasn't that bad tbqh, it just wasn't a turn based strategy and at least it revived the series by letting 2k know people wanted more turn based strategy xcom
>>333431190
The bureau was terrible. It failed on every level.
>>333431190
at least it revived the series by letting 2k know people wanted more turn based strategy xcom
Not true, Jake Solomon wanted to make a XCOM remake the day he joined Firaxis in the early 2000's. Development of XCOM: EU started in 2007, XCOM: The Bureau (Or what it used to be) was announced in 2010.
>>333431190
Generic cover based third person shooter mixed with a lot of idle time listening to characters drone on about absolutely nothing interesting. I had such high hopes and it stomped them into the floor.
>>333432130
>I had such high hopes and it stomped them into the floor.
Well theirs the problem.
>>333429961
>ODST higher than 3
Literally why, ever?
3 is better than 4.
I wish someone who played the witcher games would make one
>>333429961
>odst higher than 3
intothetrash.jpg
>>333432637
Maybe if 3 was your first Fallout game and you were 12 when it came out.
>>333429680
>pokemon red and gold that high
maybe firered and heart gold but the originals werent as good
>>333432750
Or if he likes actual RPGs.
>>333432708
For me it would be hard to rank. I loved all three, but each for wildly different reasons.
>>333433095
Funny joke.
>>333433095
Fallout 3 had rocket propelled grenades?
>>333426689
>no story IWD higher than both BGs
See, I could understand if you're rating on mechanics, but your highest score was Torment, which was all story and no mechanics.
>>333428382
I don't understand how people can have such vehement hate for DS2. I mean, yeah, it's worse than 1, but not by THAT much.
>>333429961
>reach that low
>reach not being on par with halo 1
opinion discarded
>>333424681
>DOOM 2 below DOOM 1
>>333420434
>Fallout 2 better than 1
Fallout 2 is too long meme-tier dialogs garbage, I fucking hate it
1>NV>3>4>Tactics>Brotherhood Of Steel>>>>>>>>2
>>333420548
2 is shit anon
>>333424681
Doom 3 is fucking good you faggot
>>333421254
I don't understand how anyone who played from the start can put Vanilla over TBC, there were some memorable and fun things in vanilla but jesus, those 40mans. And the PVP got so stale. AV was a shitshow by the time BC came out.
>>333420576
You missed a little something on the template.
>>333429680
Ruby>all
At this point I just want the franchise to die with what little dignity it has left.
>>333420434
Personal opinion.
>>333435174
was the last one really that bad?
>>333435605
Yes, in a lot more ways then one.
>>333435174
rottr is one of the best in the series retard. just because its not on ps4 doesn't mean you have to shit on it to please your sony overlords
>>333422912
fuck you for reminding me of the abomination that GW2 is.
My memories of GW will stay pure and uncorruptible, and I will cherish them until I die.
This I swear.
>>333435181
>Personal opinion
Thank you for clarifying. I don't know what we would have done without you pointing out the obvious.
>>333435885
Fuck off shill no one likes your game, even the normies are starting to hate it.
>>333435885
>David Cage's Gears of War
>best TR game
Nah.
>>333435991
NP, mon ami. Always glad to help.
>>333435174
>TR1 that low
kys, my man
>>333436220
In relation to the other games, yes.
>>333420434
I'd say 4 belongs further down for not being an RPG
>>333436035
>normies are starting to hate it
>8.0 user score on normiecritic
end yourself.
>>333435973
[TRIGGER WARNING]
>>333420434
holy shit that chart is bad
>>333429105
> replaying bloodborne
Good joke anon, you almost got me
>>333436486
Worst $50 I have ever spent on a video game. Please stop rubbing it in.
>>333436486
fuck off furious fernando
>>333436129
>SMG 1 and 2 at different heights
>Sunshine that high
>NSMB higher than NSMBWii
My autism is getting triggered real bad
>>333429961
Halo 6 buddys confirmed
>>333436370
You first.
>>333436486
I hate this guy so much
>>333428382
Funny.
I got Dark Souls II the other day and hadn't played any others and I thought it was awful.
Have only played the first game of the Prime trilogy so I can't rate the 3D games yet.
>>333437286
>less players than release month are somehow equivalent to people hating it
nigga i finished the game like 3 weeks ago and haven't touched it since. doesn't mean i hate the game retard.
like i said, end yourself. you're using up valuable oxygen.
>>333436390
>1-3 are trash
>MW2 is only a 6
get out
>>333437838
What about 1?
>>333437879
I don't own a 360, so I've never played it.
>>333437637
Rise of the Tomb Raider isn't even a fucking Tomb Raider. You should be the one killing yourself for liking a shooty-shooty casual as fuck game that requires no thinking. I think Call of Duty is more your speed senpai.
>>333438307
nigger please
>>333438093
>gets proven wrong a second time
>b-but its n-not a tomb raider
>g-go play call of dooty
nice damage control, retard
>>333437838
>Not putting saints row 4 at 10/10
>>333438242
This is not accurate
>>333438552
nice opinions, faglord
>>333438412
First of all if you look at the graph posted, only about 44,000 people were playing at peak. Hardly anyone fucking even bothered playing it. Second of all, fuck off shill. No one's buying your shit. Just accept that you're a bunch of fucking retards who can't into making legit Tomb Raider games, but shooters that happens to have a protagonist that just so happens to be called Lara Croft. You're a fucking disgrace to the series and I hope you get Syphilis.
>>333438016
right answer
>>333438242
I agree with you apart from AC3.
>>333438353
It's the truth my afrikaner friend.
>>333438420
I was regretting my purchase of The Division earlier today... but you just reminded me it could have been much worse. I could have bought THPS 5.
>thanks anon.
>>333438597
Sorry to take out your precious skyward and put your ocarina of autism on his place :^)
>>333438420
>Underground above any Pro Skater
Underage reeks from you.
>>333438741
nigga wut
my ranking is TP > OOT/MM >WW > SS
>>333438552
>TP > OoT
wut
>>333438843
I don't give a shit about the stories they started putting in, I'm talking from a gameplay perspective.
So yes, Underground is better in gameplay than the earlier Pro Skaters.
>>333438597
>>333438893
What? Ocarina acts as the base upon which the others are improvements, but the one which is the most clear direct upgrade of Ocarina is Twilight Princess, so Twilight Princess goes just above Ocarina. From there, Wind Waker and Majora's Mask are closely tied since they approach the core gameplay appeal of Zelda in different ways. The main appeal of the origian Zelda was freedom, and Wind Waker emphasizes geographic exploration while Majora's Mask emphasizes optional sidequests over the mandatory dungeons. Majora's Mask narrowly beats out Wind Waker by employing a cerebral edge in its' utilization of the literary theme of fate.
>>333438852
>:^)
>>333438654
what happened to your "normies hate it" stance? nice way to dodge the original argument asswipe. your opinion was discarded a long time ago when you couldn't even keep to the same original argument you put forth.
now please fuck off with your shitty and irrelevant opinions.
>>333434030
You can either put DeS, DaS1, and BB on the same tier (10) or put them DaS>BB>DeS.
>>333439098
You have to be 18+ to post here.
>>333434378
switch placement of 1 and 2 and this is accurate
>>333439098
The normies that did play it didn't like it. Learn2read shill. Oh wait, you're probably not getting paid enough for that ;^)
>>333429961
>ODST better than 3 or Reach
>Raech not on par with 1
>3 not the highest
>>333438698
I acknowledge that I am in the minority on my liking of AC3, but its' actually my personal favorite of the series. The key word there, though, is "personal". It is my PERSONAL favorite because I PERSONALLY relate to Ratonhnhaké:ton due to similar backstory and personality, and the historical subject matter is my PERSONAL favorite out of the topics covered so far in the series because I PERSONALLY love US revolutionary history.
>>333439024
>Twilight Princess = "improvement"
>newer graphics plus dull gimmicks plus soulless storytelling = better gameplay!
You have a lot to learn about what makes video games good, my friend.
>>333439510
Well personally I think you're a fag.
>>333439098
>Tombs are optional and side content
>First person shooter
>What "puzzles" exist are no more complicated then flicking a light switch
>Lara's been downgraded to an average looking, small in stature mouth breathing retard who's apparentely gotten her second breast reduction surgery in a row
>Game only lasts 10 hours or so
>Shallow as fuck
>Challenges are fucking easy as fuck to find and complete
>Shit story
>Shit characters
Quiet easily a worse Tomb Raider then Angel of Darkness. At least that game actually tried to be a Tomb Raider game.
>>333420434
I had a dream of my wife. She was dead. But it was all right.
>>333439223
>10 year old telling other not to use an 18+ site
kek
>>333439371
>t-they didn't like it
see >>333436370
feels good putting all these deluded dumbfucks down
>>333436621
Kek
>>333420434
Sadly the games got only worse and worse, even though I enjoyed the heck out of all of themAnd we do not talk about FrontierEVER
>>333439371
But the game was made specifically for normies, and normies happily eat up garbage.
>>333439718
>Casuals like it, that must mean it's good!
See >>333439634
Man, it feels good putting all these deluded dumbfucks down.
>>333439563
I see anons say that TP is "Ocarina but more" every single day on here. Let's see if the board agrees with that assessment.
https://www.strawpoll.me/7300740
>>333439634
finally someone to actually put a valid opinion on the table concerning the game and not some "its shit because these imaginary normies dont like it". nice one mate
>>333438328
bioshock infinite and beyond are garbage.
>>333435792
i always thought that they scraped what really made TR fun the raiding and all, i played the last game and it only felt like a uncharted tryhard clone, wich done well could have been great, but i see they fucked up
>>333439878
It's so bad even normies are getting disgusted by it.
here is one with only mother
>>333439868
I'm with you on this.
I keep seeing people say that Jak 2 is the best in the series, but that's fucking wrong.
Jak and Daxter will always be the best and it's still a great game.
>>333439868
6.5 for Jak 3 is a bit harsh, but other than that pretty correct
here is another one with m + wannabes
>>333439939
Depends on what you mean by "upgrade". Is there an option for "more modern graphics but everything else is worse?" Because I want to vote that.
>>333422912
This is very accurate
>>333439575
warioland 4 and warioworld were fuckin amazing games senpai
>>333439918
>hes suddenly saying "casuals like it" literally 5 mins after he said casuals(can be referred to as normies) hate it
KEK
>>333439980
I consider Infinite to be of about equivalent quality to 2, but with better waifu bait.
The DLCs are a clusterfuck in terms of narrative coherence, but I liked seeing Rapture pre-fall, so the first one gets an "okay" rating from me. The second one has no excuse, though, thus why I had the stick figure bleeding from gritting his teeth so much.
>>333440061
I always rated 2 higher as a kid, but I bought the HD trilogy recently and completed the games at 100%, and I agree now
>>333428382
the most accurate one
>>333440226
Wario World was above-average but not amazing, WL4 was amazing but is just barely edged out by WL3
>>333440267
>I consider Infinite to be of about equivalent quality to 2
I ain't making a fucking chart, but:
Halo 3 > Halo 2 = ODST > Halo: CE = Halo: Reach > actual dogshit > Halo 5 > all things present past and future in all of existence other than halo 4 > Halo 4
Haven't really played the first and latest call of duty's
>>333420434
>obsidianiggers
>>333435174
consider suicide if you genuinely consider angel of darkness above anything
>>333440434
This. 2 is fucking incredible. and Minevera's den is amazing.
>>333435882
i definitely agree with this list, though i genuinly hate codename agent 47so id have a exaggerated really low starting point
>>333440142
>undertale
>better than anything
Is Fallout 4 worth 27 bucks? It's at that price on cdkeys right now.
>>333436636
>System Shock better than System Shock 2
Get a load of the hipster.
>>333440601
yeah i fucked up a bit, here it's fixed.
>>333440061
I can see youre a true fan of the J&D franchise, my brother
>>333440116
Yeah when I posted it I kinda felt it too
Should at least be 7 I guess (7.5 maybe?)
>>333434524
PvP was a shitshow from day one.
High Warlords and Grand Marshalls were literally just teenagers who AFK'd all day while they were at school. Hardly anyone who achieved the highest PvP ranks actually sat at their computer and earned it because no one wanted to compete in the cluster fuck that was called PvP.
>>333440450
pretty accurate. id bump up black ops 2 based on it has the most refined multiplayer by far out of all the games. the campaign was shit though
campaigns:
cod4 > mw2 = waw > blackops> mw3
all the other campaigns are too shite to even talk about
multiplayer
black ops 2 > black ops = mw2 > cod 4 (aged badly imo) > waw
and everthing else isnt worth mentioning
>>333435174
The worst part is that the success of the new games means they will be what the public associates the franchise with while the actually Tomb Raider games are forgotten.
>>333440263
>That's the same person
>>333440508
>Rise of the Tomb Raider
>Better then Angel of Darkness
Angel of Darkness had breast physics. Check mate Crystal Dynamics.
>>333440843
yeah 7.5 it is imo
>>333440450
I played CoD until MW3 so I agree 100% with you on that part (4>WAW<MW2=BO>MW3)
>>333440617
Not yet AFAIK.
>>333440828
>space funeral lower than the other two shitstains
>earthbound lower than its trite derivative spawn
drink bleach
>>333440828
Why OFF so low?
It had interesting world and was more original than most of the rest.
>>333437583
>Metroid 2 higher than 1
Finally someone gets itI think Zero Mission and Fusion are better than Super, but your opinion is respectable
>>333441135
>lisa and undertale are bad
>>333437919
>2 worse than 1
Take your nostalgia goggles off. 2 was the high point of the series that vastly improved upon 1.
>>333440617
Wait until it drops to $10.
>>333439510
>similar backstory and personality,
>similar personality to Edgy brooding eternal teen
I hate you already and I never met you.
>>333438242
>Liberation better than Unity
>Liberation better than anything
I thought the Tyranny was shit too, and I liked AC3
>>333441167
and engaging combat that didn't got old with the time and didn't became mindlessly boring.
>>333420434
>>333420521
>>333420745
>>333420878
I will never get this meme.
>>333427679
no that's actually where your taste belongs.
>>333441124
So far Fallout 4 is a decent first person shooter and terrible RPG. I'm waiting for the Harbor DLC to see if that will change, and we stop getting cash grab DLC's.
>>333441540
Donte DmC was DMC2 level of bad at least.
Rayman 2 remains GOAT tier to this day
>>333441723
kill yourself redditard memelord
>>333440142
I'm waiting for people to shitpost on this one.I agree though, even if you're trying to bait
>>333441549
Not his edginess, no, I hated that. His introversion, his being blinded by principal, and the fact that his lifes' mission was defined by early childhood trauma were the kind of things that made him relateable to me.
>>333421254
Well i'm not going to lie like the faggot you are. it's obvious you must have joined in MoP to have such shitty opinions. Seriously rating WoD and MoP that high.
Can't say anything for vanilla but i'd say BC-8,wotlk-9-cata 4, MoP 4 and WoD 3.
Legion is shaping up to maybe be a 5
>>333441790
Origins and Legends are fucking amazing tho
>>333440450
Added some space at the bottom for the new one coming out this autumn
>>333438420
>THUG 2 worse than THUG 1
Killyourself my man
>>333442038
The levels weren't as good.
It never recovered
>but m-muh generatio-
Nope. Still shit. All it does is remind you of better games.
>>333441790
>That chart
Patrician taste, friend
>>333438242
I was looking for an AC version and I really don't understand your stupid ratings. You fucked it all up.
>>333438552
MM=OOT>WW>>>>>>>>Literal human shit>>>>>TP
>>333442314
Sonic the hedgehog was a fucking masterful remake you pleb
>>333438420
Switch the height of THPS4 & THUG2 with THUG1 and you're about right
>>333436636
I don't know too much about system shock but I'm glad bioshock infinite is where it belongs
Well >>333442658, you might want to see my explanation at >>333439024
>>333440450
>CoD history
Starts at 4
Oh boy, the underage
>>333436636
>SS better than SS2¨
>Implying the original Bioshock isn't better than both of the SS games
Cmon nigger, you can do better than that
>>333442658
OOT > WW
You can't possibly think that, can you?
>>333442549
I've only seen Leddites use that rating system.
>>333430770
fuck you now I'm sad
>>333439868
I still I don't understand why ND went full edge after Jak 1
>>333442823
Your explanation is alright, but you forget one major issue.
Literally TP better than any other Zelda game? Are you high son?
>>333438552
So the contrarian hipster's ranking then
>>333440392
>>333440442
>26 seconds apart
>>333443114
It's literally just "Ocarina but more". So yes, it is a direct upgrade from Ocarina.
>>333443228
Again, I would, redirect you to >>333439024
>>333443113
I still ask this question myself to this very day
The Precursor Legacy was/is a fucking top notch platformer with its unique style, flow and theme
Why Naughty Dog didn't expand on it I don't know. They just went full retard I guess.
>>333443614
They started that whole "we need to make mature games for mature gamers" thing that only got worse in the PS3 era
I want a real Jak 4
They still make fine games, but that mentality is so fucked
>>333429680
Diamond is a 9 for me but otherwise this is correct
>>333443560
it's zelda trying to be edgy and dark, it sucks so much. Twilight princess was so bad it put me off zelda games. They will never top MM/OOT/WW ever.
>>333428382
Completely correct
>>333441362
>lisa and undertale are better than all three Mother games
>>>an hero
>>333443560
More like "Ocarina with slightly less ugly graphics and all the soul taken out."
>>333443716
>We need more realism
>We need more maturity
>We need more shooting mechanics
>We need to simplify everything
Fuck modern AAA games.
>>333443917
I didn't compare them to mother games you meme loving fuck
>>333443312
3 is that bad?
Still never tried or watched anything of it
>>333436129
>SM 2 better than SBM 3
>Super Mario Bros Ds better than SMB Wii
The Combat has been Evolved
Earth will Never be the Same
Finish the Fight
If They Want war, We'll Give Em' War
Prepare to Drop
Remember Reach
Wake Up John
Hunt The Truth
>>333443614
I think it might be how they didn't want to be known for "kiddy platformers" even if they were fucking amazing at it
>"Mature games for mature audiences"
>>333440142
some of the worst taste i've seen in awhile
>>333420434
Fallout 3 is better rated than NV though. Still nice try, hipster.
>>333444176
>reach mp
>that high
Shit was awful
BF: BC2 was/is/will always be my favorite BF
>>333420434
>Fallout 3 is worse than Fallout 2
You can't be serious
>>333444459
it's a relative chart.
Halo 4 Multiplayer and halo 5 campaign make everything else look somewhat good by comparison.
>>333444497
>battlefield 3 being better than battlefield 4
but that's completely wrong.
>>333434378
Absolutely perfect, but peace Walker and portable ops should both be lower
>>333444176
>implying reaches multiplayer was good
>putting Halo 3 that low
>implying Halo 5 multiplayer isn't total dogshit
>implying Halo 2 singleplayer isn't a fucking mess
>even having Halo 4 higher than Halo 3 singleplayer
>That middling score for ODST
holy fuck every single opinion you have is wrong
>>333444424
>the normies are right!
Sure they are...
>>333444497
EXCELLENT TASTE
However you forgot 1942, which I would put beside BFBC2
>>333444497
>bf2 isnt top
(you)
>>333433802
Not that guy, but IWD2 gets major points for trying to get out of the AD&D rules.
>>333444176
shit opinions, anon.
OBJECTIVELY RIGHT OPINIONS COMING IN HOT:
>Singleplayer
ODST > Halo 1 > Halo 2 = Halo 3 > Reach > Halo 5 > Halo 4
>Multiplayer
Halo 3 (+ ODST if you want) > Halo 2 > Halo 1 > Halo: Reach > Halo 5 > suicide > Halo 4
>>333436390
Black ops 1 is the only 10
>>333429961
all should be at the bottom
ITT: be as non-comformative as possible.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE
*tips fedora*
>>333441885
the joke is they are all 7, except MoP, fuck chinks
>>333444932
>ODST best singleplayer
>Halo 3 best multiplayer
correct opinions
Never played Deadlocked or FFA
>>333444975
Someone's mad that their favorite game didn't make it to the top of someone's ranking chart.
>>333444932
Halo 3 babbies have abysmal taste
>>333436129
Bretty good
>>333444932
>halo 5 campaign better than halo 4
kys
>>333443113
Insomniac released Ratchet and Clank with all those fun weapons to use and it's still a nice platformer at it's core. It was the more refreshing game at the time. So ND copied it. Also GTA was becoming famous and ND thought they need to mature and make open world. So they threw Haven City in it with missions to copy that too and made Jak edgy.
>>333445363
Halo 3 is literally Halo 3 with a better weapon sandbox, a less OP BR, and forge, which makes custom games 10x better.
stop trying to feel superior for playing a game that released only a couple years earlier like you're some kind of oldfag- as if the rest of us didn't play it too.
>>333445609
Yes, Halo 3 is literally Halo 3.
>>333445553
At least the story is coherent in Halo 5. You don't need to read fucking books.
>>333445727
did you even play halo 5?
>>333445725
you know what i meant to type, cunt
>>333429680
Are you retarded? BW was the series that introduced fucking car keys as a pokemon.
Pearl is awesome, and has an awesome atmosphere and the best endgame content.
X is pretty ok, I like the customization. Also liked how the group you faced was an actual thread, as they wanted to kill everyone. Too bad they were fucking gay as shit.
>>333444068
>>333444068
Do you really not understand how line graphs work?
I thought you had bad taste, but I guess it turns out you're just stupid.
>>333445816
Yeah. It's shitty and the story is fucking garbage. But at least you understand what's going on.
Meanwhile in Halo 4, Cortana instantly fucking knows who the didact is, even though she'd never met him before, and would have no record of him from forerunner shit because he was a fucking secret at that point.
Then chief is made out to be a chosen one with some deus ex machina bullshit out of nowhere, and we're supposed to know who the librarian is without any explanaton-
cortana can suddenly turn into hardlight for SOME reason, which they never explain-
Not to mention the entire mission and level design is dogshit from start to finish with absolutely nothing memorable. At least Halo 5 has that pink orb which is memorable, and a couple of those levels are big enough to have fun engagements.
>>333430770
God, I wish we could get another F.E.A.R 1 style game. Spooky, intelligent AI, ok map design, and fun shooting mechanics.
I loved how the AI would sometimes yell, "I've lost him!", and the officer would just say, "Shut the fuck up."
>>333444932
I almost agree.
>Singleplayer
ODST = Halo 1 > Halo 2 = Halo 3 > Reach > Halo 5 > Halo 4
>Multiplayer
Halo 3 (+ ODST if you want) > Halo 2 > Halo 1 > Halo: Reach > Halo 5 > suicide > Halo 4
>>333432750
Aw shit, you got me.
Not OP tho
>>333434527
I'm torn between calling you a cunt for suggesting it and the deflating sadness od seeing it happen.
I'll stop shitting out my mouth, I guess...
>>333442038
>Tony Hawks does Jackass The Game
But really, they put focus on the stupid pranks and jokes over the skating aspect, the cutscenes were great to watch but the story and gameplay for THUG1 was far FAR superior
>>333446141
I can live with that. I was just hesitant to put Halo 1 high up since I haven't played it in a while, and I didn't want to be blinded by nostalgia.
>>333420434
F2>FNV>F1>>>>F3>F4
>>333428382
Bloodborne is not souls.
>>333440957
Mw2 campaign was fucking stupid
>>333440450
You should have Blops 1 at CoD 4 level, Blops 2 is better than MW3. Mw3 should be below Advanced Warfare and Blops 3. Only Ghosts is worse than MW3
>>333445609
>Halo 3 is literally Halo 3
wow u showed me
>>333446141
halo 4 campaign is fine
>>333434030
it's a clusterfuck of development issues and poor management
also no miyazaki
>>333447043
Halo 4's campaign was shit.
>>333444176
>it isn't a glitch, it's a feature!
>>333422020
>slightly old engine
>slightly
m8...
>>333441790
Rayman was the best one. Garbage taste.
>>333444176
one had great multiplayer if you had people to play with/system link with.
3 had great multiplayer as well, matchmaking had a ton of different choices.
no idea why odst multiplayer is that high, horde game mode isn't fun compared to true pvp, IMO, i'd probably put it at the bottom
here i am
>tear ass plz
>>333441310
Tbh I enjoyed Metroid 2 way more than Fusion
Don't think I've ever felt as lost in a video game as playing Metroid 2 without a map
>>333448775
>Hating on Drakengard
>Being a Nier baby
Have you even played the series?
>>333421254
>people hate mop
it was the best epac for pvp
>>333448814
>Generals was the first one I played so it's the best
>>333449030
Not him, but Drakengard sucks fat fucking balls. It is so incredibly unfun and boring.
Also, more to the point, I fucking loath when people use that "X babby" term. Like, 99% of the time it's used, it's for an already obscure as fuck series. Can't you just be glad people are getting into it at all, and enjoying a series you love instead of sperging out that they didn't play earlier shitty ones?
Especially since most of the time retards parrot this shit even they didn't play the old ones until after they played the new ones. There is no FUCKING WAY that many people played the original Kings Field from how many retards act like it's superior to the Souls series in those threads. Same with Nier.
>>333422912
>10 trillion days playtime gw1
>never picked up gw2
I love myself
>>333422912
This makes me want to go back to pre-searing
Rub my balls to old ascalon
Ejaculate on my face as I run from the charr after killing rurik
>>333444497
Accurate but I'd put BF2 at least on the same level at BFBC2
>>333438420
>Underground 2 below underground 1
>Tony hawk's 2 below anything.
The rest seems ok tho
>>333449208
First one I played was tib sun. bretty good
Generals has an amazing modding community, dunno why. I really liked the gameplay a lot, the units looked nice, and the game had a good pace to it.
NV>=4>3>1=2
>>333438552
Majora's Mask>Ocarina of time>Wind Waker> Twilight Princess >>>shit>>>> Skyward Sword
>>333449030
I have. Got ending E for Drak 1, took me two weeks of endless grinding. wasnt fun, i just had to complete it for my own sanity. its by far the worst video game i've ever played, and its so random weird story gets no points only because of all the shit you have to go through to get to it. when I could spend 40 minutes to just watch it on youtube and get the same effect.
Drak 2 was the only playable one. and thats stretching it.
3 was a return to the mediocrity of 1 and no amount of dialogue or story could save it from being the same boring slog through hordes of the same enemy over and over. I watched the rest of it online and was better for it.
Nier is the perfect balance. its okay gameplay, but leagues above anything Drak ever did, and it dared to be different, good puzzles, good bullethell gimmick, the sealed verses let you do shit other then swing your sword. its all one package, not a shitty package with strings attatched to get the good stuff.
>>333448814
close
TibSun>RA2>Gen
All 3 are great though
>>333420434
all of them are amazing tho
>>333450247
of the 3D fallout games
3 had a cool story, cool characters, best starts, best DLC (fuck dead money)
NV had best weapons, vaults, comma, factions
4 had best gameplay, best power armor system, best customization, best overworld
4 also has a lot of cool new shit. Being able to rebuild the wasteland is something I wanted for a long time.
I just wish they could make a new fallout game that didn't always take a step back with every step it took forward.
I REALLY WANT ANOTHER DLC THAT MODIFIES THE WORLD AFTER THE ENDGAME LIKE BROKEN STEAL. shit was so cash
>>333450831
>Steal
>Shit was so cash
You must be 18 or older to post here.
>>333440896
>High Warlords and Grand Marshalls were literally just teenagers who AFK'd all day while they were at school.
Complete bullshit. You either did it yourself, had a guild help you or had others play your account. You'd never get enough points being afk.
>>333445889
X introduced the car keys
>>333450974
>This mad about X
Hammer user detected.
>>333450650
I remember playing panzer dragoon orta for the xbox on a demo disc. years later i saw it in the bargain bin and jumped on it. shit is so cash.
>>333436129,
>no Super Mario Land for GBC
Good job though, regardless. Thanks for not being a neo-/v/ galaxybabby
>>333445889
>BW was the series that introduced fucking car keys as a pokemon.
Klefki is Gen 6 you fucking moron.
>>333450557
It's hard for me.
I love ts a lot, the atmosphere was awesome, story was pretty good
RA2 had awesome units, great story, and lots of memorable shit.
Generals had good gameplay, and I've been looking for a recent game that feels like it since.
But your prolly right, i should have done RA2>gen>=ts
>>333439259
Make me. 1 was more fun.
>>333448814
this
>>333420434New Vegas feels like one of those slavic megamods where they just shovel mismatched shit in until the game breaks and then call it complete.
Fallout 4 was a fun action videogame.
>>333451209
Nvm, wtf 6, that shit is gay
BW still had a bunch of shit pokemon. Hate the starters.
>>333435174
lol you actually played tomb raider games before 2013
pathetic and desperate, or just autistic?
>>333450909
>I'm a retard who used the wrong word
>it's a meme you dip
>>333444497
BF2 is top, by far.
>>333450831
>3
>cool story
pick one and only one
And for the record, Fallout is not a post apocalypse where everything is shit and dying and diseased. Civilization has been rebuilding for decades on the west coast. There's no need to rebuild when there are cities and hundreds of settlements across the wasteland already.
>>333438420
I would have agreed with you a year ago, but I beat THUG on Sick mode recently, and it's not as good as I remember. Too many "collect all the passes!" and other non-skating-related missions. The controls were probably the high point for the series and feel incredibly tight, but the level design and goals are lackluster. At least THUG2 embraces the fact that it's about random bullshit, and has tons of cool hidden stuff to boot.
Don't remember jack shit about AW or PG, but Project 8 was pretty alright.
>>333435174
>the reboot is bad
Found the retard.
>>333450557
Fuck you TibSun sucked ass. Anons graph is superb
>>333440601
Found the living, breathing meme
>>333444497
Where the fuck is 2142 you missed the best game.
>>333434378
>GZ not the best
>2 that high
>>333436390
blops 2 was way better than mw3 and 1 and 2 were pretty good. 3 gets some undeserved flak imo.
>>333436636
you never played some of these games
>>333438328
mostly agree, but BaS's story was not good.
>>333438420
1 will always be the best to me. the simplicity+no manuals made it more interesting
>>333442314
disagree with CD being as good as 2. CD was so close to pure greatness but had some flaws that compounded in odd ways
>>333444176
>3s campaign that low
>CE multiplayer not at least a 9
>4 in any way better than reach
>reach that low
>3s multiplayer only a 6.5
>>333448814
I don't know how people could say generals is the best C&C .
Maybe it had good multiplayer but the single player campaigns were 2serious boring unplayable crap .
Best singleplayer campaign goes to RA2.
>>333436636
>Infinite not above Bioshock 2 at the very least
>>333448814
Perfect
>>333451551
Why is 3 always given so much shit for the story?
>Fallout is rebuilding
Did you see the East Coast? They aint done anything. They have a shitty aircraft carrier that they barely did anything to. Megaton was build decades ago, and is now falling apart. Nobody is making new things but the Brotherhood.
Why is the East Coast so lazy?
>>333441790
Excellent taste. Rayman 2 is one of the best games of all time, and I'm not sure why it consistently stays under /v/'s radar.
>>333420548
Fuck off nostalgia fag. NV is superior in nearly every way.
>>333438307
>Warcraft 2 not at same height as 3
Warcraft 2 was fucking amazing.
>WoW that high
should be like Heart of Throns in >>333422912
But otherwise good taste anon.
>>333448814
>Generals higher than RA2 or TibSun
I can never understand it. I can't understand how people loved soulless, ugly, balanced-for-lean Generals so much.
>>333448775
>2 better than anything
>>333451325
You mean you liked Fallout "Every quest is kill everybody" 4 more than New Vegas?
>>333444932
Closest thing to correct that anyone's posted so far. As long as ODST, 1 ,and 2 are best SP, and 3 + ODST and 2 are best MP.
>>333452082
at least its playable.
>>333451098
I personally disagree but I respect your opinion.
>>333451838
>too serious
China spent the whole game nuking the middle east, and the US spent it fucking up terrorists.
The terrorists spent their time trying to turn everyone green.
Red Alert is the only series in CnC that isn't trying to be serious.
>>333451783
>Peace Walker
>good
my sides
>>333451783
>PW
>above MGS3
>not in shit tier
Peace Walker is everything wrong with MGS5. It is a game that didn't need to exist, fucking trash trying to cash in on the MH craze.
>>333440450
>starts at 4
Holy fuck this triggered me
>>333451774
I really liked tibsun, which is why I put it the 3rd highest on my graph. Why do you think it's shit?
>>333452018
Yeah, as I pull off the rose tinted glasses, I'm starting to think that RA2 should have been top.
>>333443312
I thought 3 was on par, it was comfy as fuck
>>333451859
Bioshock 2 had the best actual gameplay of any Shock game to date. Great weapons, best iteration of plasmids, and no stupid "you can only carry <#> weapons" requirement. Plus, the drill and the drill charge.
Infinite had the best LITERALLY NOTHING.
>>333443113
Fuck off toddler. If you want kiddy shit play your Nintendo games.
>>333452213
Why? it's a good game.
Story about the cold war was more entertaining then RAIDEN WE IZ AIS PATRIOTS R EVIL WURR WURR WURR. and for the first time actually sensible and grounded in reality. The bosses were fun as hell to go back and fight over and over, and the mission based gameplay allows you to choose any part of the game to revisit instead of starting from scratch everytime.
I don't see the issue here.
>>333452296
>PW is everything wrong with MGSV
Um, no. MGSV is just plain bad. PW came first and set the groundwork everything after MGS3. It would've been better if 5 never existed and PW carried into MG1 like it was supposed to.
>>333452101
Absolutely. NV's writing was hit and miss with some really stellar stuff every now and again, but it wasn't consistent enough to offset the sub-Oblivion gameplay and the incredibly outdated and unstable gamebryo iteration they used. Fallout 4 had merely acceptable writing but was mechanically fun, technically competent, and I enjoyed the overworld much more which is a big deal in this genre. If you measure it by RPG standards, sure, it's incredibly lacking, but I think FO4 is a better action game the NV is an RPG.
>>333421254
>MOP better than BC
>Warlords not a 2
>>333452454
It had the most interesting story by far
The amount of game franchises that start high and steadily decline makes me sad
>>333450974
What's so bad about MHX?
>>333452558
half of it was snake crying about the boss
other half was grinding for the endgame
bosses were only redeeming quality of this game
also it ran like garbage on psp
>>333452879
So I'm not making two posts for this
Everything except the Deviant system, the flagship monsters, and the music.
They managed to fuck up the most simplest of things from 4U, like the food system.
>>333453067
>Half of it was snake crying about boss
GEE. its almost like MGS3 wasn't the same thing!
>>333442314
Heroes is better than the Adventures. Other than that, ok chart
>>333428923
> the game is fucking busted because of it.
I never noticed
>>333451098
>windwaker
>better than anything but skyward sword
>>333452558
Not the people you're replying to but I really dislike the 'ops' format and think the root of the problems (in addition to a lack of to detail) with V is that format. The same resources put into a 12 hour game focusing on an single overarching mission would have alleviated the resource issues that led (combined with Kojima's champagne tastes) to the unfinished title we got, and the meta-mission gameplay (base construction and fulton systems) does nothing but ruin pacing, and it the case of the fulton system ruin the gameplay itself by providing and INCENTIVIZED way to completely remove enemies from the map without killing them or leaving a body which can be found. It completely changed what classifies as playing the game well to a boring methodical slog where you remove all opposition systematically. I just don't find it fun.
>>333448814
I was there when Tiberian Sun came out.
Everybody, and I mean everybody, deemed it a hideously disappointing pile of mediocrity.
>>333451686
RIP
also why is there a line going to a blank spot after dino stalker?
>>333441790
>mfw i found out i played a botched port of rayman 2 all my childhood
i gotta play the dreamcast version some day
>>333445178
Deadlocked is fun, but it's not as open world and some missions feel like you're just playing the multiplayer mode with bots. It's fun, but really feels too grimdark to be a Rachet and Clank Game
Each rated included their expansions.
>>333453231
ding ding ding we have a winner
>>333449261
>Also, more to the point, I fucking loath when people use that "X babby" term. Like, 99% of the time it's used, it's for an already obscure as fuck series. Can't you just be glad people are getting into it at all, and enjoying a series you love instead of sperging out that they didn't play earlier shitty ones?
That's what I thought would happen with Fallout 3. Instead, it's now cause everyone outside of NMA to associate the series with it instead of the non-fanfiction originals. And now the same thing is happening with Tomb Raider.
Sometimes it's better for the industry to leave a creative and substantial franchise alone by itself rather than having a derivative and degenerative iteration supersede it.
>>333441363
It had the most likable cast, at least
>>333451916
Because dead worlds are easier to build than living ones.
>>333439576
Fags come from the same bundle, dildo
>>333453178
Could you go into more details please?
Mostly I just watch it from youtube(waiting for eng version) and and so far I do like the new things they add.
>>333451105
>Hammer user
How exactly? The balance in X for weapons is pretty neutral. The only exceptions are Bow which is no doubt the strongest and HH which is no doubt the worst
>>333443767
I love blood money so much.
Why was that game so good?
>>333445889
Klefki isnt car keys, its a fairy that likes to collect keys.
>>333452808
In my opinion it's just a result of tired gamer syndrome. Obviously the first time of something is usually the best time
i think this is right
>>333454273
Take a look in the fucking mirror and repeat that. You'll find you have as little respect for your opinion as I do.
>>333454291
So then why don't we make games that superficially and physically are oldschool?
>>333454448
That wasn't an opinion????
>>333420548
1 is better than 2
I didn't even need to make a chart this one does it for me.
>>333427679
Super had redeeming qualities, and at least it had partners, unlike the unholy abortion that was Sticker Star
>>333453694
I liked 4 and 5 more than 6, which was the only one I didn't finish. I lost the will to complete the game after the party gets broken up and kefka takes over. As much as I didn't like the leveling system, at least I completed 2.
7 was good but I was like 12 when I played it so I couldn't give it a fair judgment. Didn't play anything after 7 so I'll refrain from giving an opinion.
Number ratings are arbitrary
>>333454249
Hammerfags are upset about X becvause they get no special moves like every other class. all they get is a short hop.
>>333454834
>2 lower then 1
No.
>>333454594
whoops, wrong post
>>333453801
Want to play Beyond Earth badly because space and shit, watch it on youtube first and then realize it's reskin of Civ5.
My only hope is that they made second expansion that will fix it(if it's still possible).
>>333420434
sor 2 > all faggots
>>333434030
>DS1 being only around the middle
>>333446108
shut the fuck up
>>333453719
I hear it has the best shooting in the series tho, so I will eventually play it
Too bad my only option is the fucked HD port
>>333455246
my nigga
>>333435181
Do you lump GZ in with TPP?
>>333455003
I think the first three are all really good, I just don't find 2 as memorable as the others. In reality I think it's just a notch below the other two.
>>333439868
You reek of the fuckers that can't stomach the tonal shift and just baawww all over these treads
>But anon, what about how you feel about ratchet and clank after -
YOU SHUT YOUR DICK HOLE ABOUT RATCHET AND CLANK
>>333454291
nah, because some of these games are objectively inferior to the originals.
Vidya stories have been getting worse especially.
Starcraft 2's story just shits all over the original story. I had to deal with a friend complaining about how 343 butchered Halo 5's story.
Diablo 3 was a disappointment
The problem is a lot of developers are beginning to ride off their brand names and then fail to deliver something even half-decent.
>>333454550
...what?
no. i mean you play DANKGAME 1 and its great. you go into DANKGAME 2 with *expectations* and it doesn't deliver so it's shit. and when it delivers it's still just more of the same
>>333439575
Swap the spots of WL4 and 3 and you got yourself a deal
>>333421254
I'd put two Cata's in. One at 7, one at 4 after they nerfed the fuck out of 5 man dungeons. I left WoW after that.
>there was a time when splinter cell could rival mgs and actually punished you for killingonly reason black list is higher then conviction is due to the bringing back of spies vs mercs and they made co-op not a horrid fucking mess to even connect with friends
>>333453694
>6 higher than 4
it should be on par at most
>>333455860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp9O6FvyD0U
>>333441363
you're right, no fucking escalator 10/10
>>333451859
Jesus what the fuck is wrong with you?Masochists pls go
>>333454778
>4 better than ANYTHING
>>333456295
4 at least had splitscreen co-op. I did all of the Halos splitscreen with my dad. Hurt for them to fucking take it out. I mean, shit game, but it was our thing.
>>333452135
A playable boring mess is garbage compared to a soul rending slog.
Drakengard is legitimately repulsive in every way. 3 is painful but endearing. Nier is bittersweet. 2 is just fucking boring.
>>333456295
>odst the highest
>>333455003
Sure it is
It's the slightest difference, but it is
>>333444497
>no 1942
what the FUCK are you doing
>>333457241
>>333454834
That said, what are you doing putting 3 above two? It's limited, gimmicky and generally not as well written or presented
>>333438242
I think Revelations gets too much hate, found III to be boring as fuck, is Rogue really that good? I might pirate it if that's the case.
I have like 200 mods running on NV. It's fantastic. Right now I'm doing a Punisher playthrough, so I have the iconic shirt and a trenchcoat and I go around killing Legion, Fiends, Powder Gangers and other scumbags. 11/10 game
I didn't put it, but even the iOS App is better than homecoming
And the Nokia Silent Hill Orphan games were better as well.
>>333444932
I'd say 4's Singleplayer deserves to be higher than 5, 5 is such an insult to everything.
>>333457740
>SH1 > SH2goodopinion, desuvius
>>333457740
>The room above three
>Silent hill as the highest
other then that yeah alright.
>>333455463
GZ is a demo
fight me2 is only just better than 3/K. Its still really high up there
>>333452804
kill yourself my nigga
>>333438420
THUG1 sound track is one of the best ive heard in a game if not the best
>>333445727
>Not reading the Halo books
Fucking pleb.
>>333452480
>Mature games are always better than kiddy shit
Don't cut yourself on that edge fampachi
>>333458515
>reading
I want oldfags to leave
>>333458515
>reading fanfic-tier literature
Kill yourself famlam
>>333458202
GZ had radically different gameplay to V
>>333446065
Yes it had a lot of shit that assumed you knew the Lore, but at least 4 was part of the story, 5 raped so many characters just to tell the shittiest story you could ask for, hell Buck and Blue Team were the only characters that made any sense, the rest were just insane or completely retarded.
>>333446656
The Gray Wastes are clearly visible in the Hunter's Dream, they are at least connected in some way.
>>333438428
>Illiteracy
>>333428382
Bloodborne is better than Dark Souls.
>>333442314
Shadow the Hedgehog was shit and you're shit for not thinking its on the same level as Sonic '06
>>333458752
please stop with this delusional meme
>>333443312
3 is on par honestly
>>333458157
My only gripe with 3 is that it was way to short and it only had 2 real endings, 3 if you count the UFO ending.
And one of the real endings was damn near a chore to obtain, you had to be DSP to get that ending that required you to get incredible amounts of damage.
Also SH1 is the best to me only for it's subtle horror, art direction, and just plain blocky textures. Made the game that much scarier.
Subtle horror being when you first get to the hospital, go to every floor that the elevator leads to, only to find that every door is locked. And once you get back in the elevator on the 3rd floor only to find that a 4th floor button appears. Now that moment was incredible back in the day.
>>333452682
objectively correct
>>333451226
More fun doesn't matter when the game is a postmodern masterpiece.
>>333454441
Pretty good
MGSV is not good.
>>333442314
fixed + extra
>>333453801
>gahndi
>>333454441
bo3 isnt a bad cod.
>>333460075
swap 3 with 1 and i agree 100%
>>333459607
I will always wonder why sony didn't keep developing JRPG's
>>333438328
Burial at Sea II was awesome.
>Return to Rapture
>Play as a QT 3.14
>Stealth and takedowns preferred over combat
>Fairly lengthy
It was great, fuck the haters.
>>333438552
pretty much this but id put minish cap inbetween wind waker and twilight princess.
>>333460214
I see Colors is conveniently absent.
>>333461870
I'm pretty sure putting Vice City so low will only help in proving how of an under aged faggot you are.
>>333451932
Nostalgia is a nice way to dismiss opinions. I started with 3 (then new vegas) when it released. So you could say i have Nostalgia for those. I've recently played 1 and 2 for the first time. They are definitely superior by a long shot.
>>333443312
haven't played 3 is it really not as good?
also pikmin 2 was better than 1.
i liked the feeling and atmosphere of 1 more but 2 was mechanically superior.
>>333464879
1 and 2 make 3 and New Vegas look like fan projects.
>>333443312
Yeah, I agree. Three wasn't a bad game by any means, but I agree it wasn't as good as 2. Then again, I thought 2 was better than 1 so please bump that shit up.
>>333454441
Looks right to me
>>333465172
I think PW is one of the best mgs games. V is definitely the worst. Can't really even call it mgs.
>>333438242
How the fuck did you get any enjoyment out of 3?
>>333454441
They should all be under that line. All shit.
>>333465172
>4 over anything
I'll never understand you people. 4 is a good game only conceptually, the moment you actually get into it even the good chapters are poorly paced and designed.
>>333465769
MGSV is a bigger more bloated Peace Walker. Peace Walker is a decent mobile game, but a shit Metal Gear Solid game. The story is one of the best in the series, but that can't prop up poor gameplay.
>>333441695
>So far Fallout 4 is a decent first person shooter
Mediocre at best
>and terrible RPG
yes
>I'm waiting for the Harbor DLC
Save your money until they release the fucking G.E.C.K. and see if modders can redeem this shitheap.
>>333455246
>no sor remake
it's the best sor. play it you fucktard
>>333465787
Ship-parts were fantastic.
Now we have BF so III lost all.
>>333466009
I just hope they can churn out some decent porn mods.
>>333465769
PW was only fun to me when I didn't have a specific goal in mind and just wanted to complete missions as MSF soldiers and fuck around with smoke grenades.
Whenever I needed to unlock or build something, all that joy just evaporated
>>333428382
so without knowing much about dark souls other than playing demon souls for an hour and watching a few gameplay video's. What made dark souls 2 so shit?
>>333439675
I gotta disagree with rating 1 and 3 the same. The gunplay is great in 3 but the ratio of actual gameplay to cut scenes is absurd. Couple that with a story Max has no place in and I can only rate it an 8...maybe 8.5
>>333461870
Yeesh, shit taste. IV is the worst in the series by such a colossal margin it's almost unfair to even compare it to the other entries.
>>333440960
The newest game isn't successful at all it made news with how bad it sold and how much money was shoveled into it being an xbox one advertisement this series with disappear all together.
>>333466147
Snake eater is so overrated, the camera and controls are shit and it had some of the cheesiest moments of the series.
>>333465858
found the edge lord, why don't you go buy more nintendo copy paste wool games for your wii u.
>>333461870
Vice City came out when I was in highschool. It's my least favorite because of the setting. I still don't like that setting today. Not to mention it was a weaker version of Scarface.
>>333452804
I'd beg to differ
Infinite to me felt weird after coming off of the old bioshocks
Bright colors, Soft looking people, and PORTALS N SHIT YO
In Bioshock I felt more of a realistic perspective from the character I played since it was, oh shit I've survived a plane crash and now I'm in some weird underwater city lead only by this man over the radio.
It established the atmosphere from the get go and built upon that all the way through the game until your final confrontation with Atlas
>>333455860
Pandora Tomorrow?
>>333465936
GZ takes an arcade route along with the main mission providing a tense and interesting story. It set the bar extremely high for the full game but PP did not even remotely stack up. I feel that GZ and 4 are interchangeable or even equal given proper context. 4 has probably the least amount of stealth of all the games, much of it being mediocre. But the ride and gimmicks are enough to create a fun experience your first time through. Upon reflection or replaying, 4 is extremely flawed. Its story absolute shit, making no sense. It isn't that I cannot understand the story, it just tries so hard to wrap everything up it ruins characters and ideas for the sake of closure. Creating massive plot holes and a bitter taste.
Quality level design in an open world game is extremely hard, especially for a stealth game. I wish PP had been more linear, having story missions in set locations and side ops in a sandbox. Open world ruined that game.
In the end I can agree with you and respect how you feel. Depending on my mood when asked, I could easily put one over the other. Neither being as terrible and PW or PP.
>>333465172
>PW second lowest
"Nice me-me"
>>333467609
PP was terrible, PP was great. Depends on the context.
The narrative aspect was by far the worst in the series.
The gameplay was by far the best in the series.
Simple really.
>>333466969
Camera controls are shit? What? They work as well as any 3D game at that time. The original release was top down only. That was shit.
Snake Eater if taken as its own game stands tall. Much like 1 and 2. 3 features more gameplay and not just because of "padding". I find the progress you make to go and in hand with the pacing of the story. More options, good boss fights which include one of the best of all time, and one that turns the idea on its head. 1 has decent arcade esq fights which would not feel out of place in a 2D Super Nintendo game. That is not a knock, it is just an observation of typical but quality fights, with one extenuating encounter.
Snake Eater has a more simplistic story and plot paired with an exceptional narrative to create an experience that has mass appear but is of an above average quality. Sons of Liberty has a more complex story and plot, paired with an obtuse narrative. Much of the experience lies in the prose of the experience, things being easily missed. This exposes the surface level story to feel pedestrian. Like a bland Tom Clancy novel. The first game is simple and easy to grasp with a compelling message. Nothing too fancy there.
>>333467851
The gameplay was not the best. The systems were great, the way they are used is not. This is why people see GZ are the better game in some regards. Bland Far Cry base clearing and copy-paste missions with poor level design is not fun. Level design in an open world is really hard. PP is another game that tries but ultimately fails to make the most of an open world. Metal Gear Solid gain nothing from going open world. It ruined the game, which is accompanied by a secondary mobile game time-sink in which you can create new items that are no better than the starting ones. A common problem in all the MGS games. The use of ancillary items and concepts in Metal Gear Solid as a series adds to the charm and character but do not enhance the core experience. Every game has this problem, so expanding a system proved worthless in 4, equally pointless in PW was then used in PP as a bullet point to call "content". With an open world you create the problem of how you increase difficulty. The best or smartest players don't need much to exploit the enemy, which means the lack of a difficulty setting that is almost exclusively possible by linear design is absent. This leads to the challenge missions, but they are few in number and still lack challenge. Enemies adapting is another bullet point with no consequences or merit. Their adjusting to your play style is benign.
Open world cost more money
Which meant less time for content and story
Which lead to Kojima getting in the hot seat because it had taken 8 years to get the product "finished".
The gameplay was watered down.
>>333429961
Putting Halo 5 below 4 seems pretty fucked to me they should be equal, one had amazing campaign and ass multiplayer and the other had ass campaign and amazing multiplayer. At least put reach at the top where it belongs.
