http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-04-06-solid-snake-voice-actor-david-hayter-to-star-in-mgs-fan-tribute-project
>This will be David Hayter's first time reprising the role of Snake since Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker in 2010. He was later replaced by Kiefer Sutherland in Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain, a fact he still begrudges Hideo Kojima for.
>he still begrudges Hideo Kojima
HE CAN'T LET IT GO, HOLY SHIT
David Hayter is sad... so sad...
>PEACE WALKER SNAKE VOICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdyIAmkTguE
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>>333419474
i loved hayter, but he needs to chill out with this shit
venom needed a different voice
big boss was getting old at the time of tpp, it stands to reason that his voice would change a bit. especially considering his enthusiasm for cigars
if solid snake ever makes another appearance, hayter should definitely voice him. but its come to a point that distinction between characters is necessary. chief kief wasnt great, and he was probably a bad move budget-wise, but it had to be done.
I would of liked Phantom pain more if was Hayter.
>>333419932
>>333420381
I would of liked Phantom pain more if it was finished.
why are we still here
JUST GOT A VIDYA GAME
(THROW SOME CnD'S ON THAT BITCH)
JUST GOT A VIDYA GAME
(THROW SOME CnD'S ON THAT BITCH)
>>333419474
He's gonna write his own lines isn't he?
>so guys I was thinking, maybe I can make it one whole second longer
>like this
>LIQUIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID
>instead of
>LIQUIIIIIIIID
>>333419474
ffs get kiefer
>>333419474
The last time he took a voice acting job was for Bioware. And his dialogue keeps mentioning iron cogs
before MGSV
>they should've gotten hayter, kiefer just doesn't sound right!
after MGSV
>LOL HAYTER BTFO THAT KEK CAN'T LET GO SO SAD THEY SHOULD'VE GOTTEN CHIEF KIEF
>>333423007
To be honest him as Jedi Knight is the best part of TOR, along with the Sith Warrior story.
The Brendan Fraser of the video game industry.
Jesus, let it go, David.
>>333420374
I think the main reason he can't let it go is because there was apparently an actual effort to replace him as Snake for a while, which kind of sucks, frankly.
>>333423262
>implying
Some people welcomed the change, especially since Hayter voicing 3 fucking characters throughout the series was too much, others heard Kief the Chief in game and changed their minds about it, especially after Hayter turned into a whiny bitch on twitter.
The only ones who did were the butthurt abandonment issues autists who wanted Hayter above all.
They should have replaced him in MGS3, like it was originally planned, Big Boss should have gotten his own voice then.
>>333422791
Christ, the Hayter rage would probably start world war 3.
>>333419474
>has a grudge against kojima for not letting him be snake
>didn't want to be in mgs5 anyway
???
Salty Snake...
If I were David I'd glad I wasn't involved in the abortion that is MGS5, and be glad knowing that the franchise died after you left it
>>333424308
Do you really think PW is a better game than MGSV?
>>333421982
His own lines, huh?
>>333424409
>PW
I forgot, was that Phantom Wayne or Portable Wops?
>>333424621
Is that a serious question?
>>333419474
>fan tribute project
>>333419474
Kiefer should have took over BB's voice after 3 to be honest to reflect his new demeanor...that being said if he said as much as he did in MGS V he would have been much less of an interesting actor.
>Those fucking long drawn out pauses in the jeep with Skullface had me walking around my room sweating
>>333424621
No it's Penis Wanker
I am glad Kojimbo told him to GTFO. Hayter was an anti-fun fag.
>>333424804
*character
I remember the days when we thought this was all a ruse. God David Hayter is so pathetic now.
maybe he will finally realise he can't act
>>333423007
Hayter actually did a little bit of voice acting for The Flash not too long ago.
>>333419932
That's not even Peace Walker, that was way worse than Peace Walker, that was like a fucking parody of it.
Hell, I wanted Hayter in MGS5, but dear fucking Christ, what the hell happened.
It was some slow decent into hell. Like a frog in a slowly heating pot, he got worse and worse, but you didn't really notice until you'd gotten to Peace Walker, were suddenly he sounded fucking ridiculous.
>>333419932
I watched that while listening to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KolfEhV-KiA
>>333424830
Even as anti-fun as Hayter maybe, even the worse anti-gun advocate has nothing on your average Japanese person.
>>333425061
what episode is that shark-man from?
>>333424291
Underrated post
>>333423484
top fucking kek
>>333425167
He's King Shark.
He showed up for a couple of mins at the end of season 2 episode 4 then had a full episode in season 2 episode 15.
>>333419474
LET IT GO, SON
Hayter should only voice Solid Snake not Big Boss
>>333419474
>Hayter is still this assblasted
>>333419474
late 2016: David Hater's MGS fan project cancelled by Konami, everyone involved is sued up the ass
Summer 2017: the first MGS movie (directed by Del Toro, script by Kojima starring Keifer Sutherland as Big Boss and Tom Hardy as Snake, ) breaks world records, ignites the new "videogame movie craze"
2019: Kojima leaves his usual video game movie genre for a serious drama about war veterans, wins Oscars for script and best director.
i don't get it. his voice was not needed. solid snake is 12 years old when tpp takes place. we didn't even play as the real massive manager anyway.
he was absolutely terrible in piss walker anyway sounded like he was drowning in a pool the whole time.
>MGS4 and PW Hayter
>sounds fucking terrible
>inb4 b-but he was just acting old
>wanting that back
God no. Sutherland might have been relatively generic, but I do not want "I'll just growl every world" Peace Walker era Hayter back EVER.
I bet David Hayter really liked one of Sutherlands films and now can't enjoy it. David Hayter sucks compared to Sutherland any ways. Jewnami just wouldn't pay Sutherland enough to record a reasonable amount of dialogue
I bet other people can pull off the Snake voice better than him.
>>333419474
So, how long till this also gets C&D by Konami.
Seriously, people should just stop. Never works out.
>>333419474
Is there a single person alive who is saltier than David Hayter?
the role I lost
the fans I lost
it won't stop hurting
it's like they are still here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc0EzLc7NZg
>mgs
Did very well. Cockiest snake, but voice needed a little work
>mgs2
Snake is older. Wise. Less "fun" but hayter nailed the voice
>mgs3
Big boss is a dummy. Voice isn't bad. Very small drop off from 2
>mgs4
Voice is shit
>peace walker
Shit recorded in mono
Big boss should've had a different voice from the get go anyway. But that's a different discussion
>>333425768
the japanese actor voices solid snake, big boss and solidus
it's called having acting ability
>>333426404
Trump when he loses to Hillary
>>333420381
It's not like Big Boss ever talks in that game it would barely make a difference.
>>333419474
Inb4 cease and desist from Konami
Lets look at Hayters impressive VA'ing portfolio. How about the recent stuff he's been in?
>https://youtu.be/poEA32I4vtc?t=15s
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmxXeKzbT8
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVvTOdY5O-0
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVVHYGlh5DI
...oh
>MGS fans still mourning.
>that feel when a SH fan.
i grew numb to this shit. There is no point.
i cant wait until this project gets shut down by konami
>>333426478
MGS2 Snake is just fucking perfect. There is honestly no role in any video game as memorable and amazing as Pilskin/Snake in 2.
It's like from there, he started smoking 10 packs a day. By 4, it was over. He killed his voice, and PW showed that he'll never go back.
>>333426416
Tyrone is truly a gift from God.
>>333419474
YOU NEED HELP!
THIS ISN'T FUNNY ANYMORE HAYTER! THIS HAS LITERALLY REACHED THE POINT OF OBSESSION!
THIS IS A MENTAL ILLNESS AND YOU NEED HELP!
what's wrong with Hayter? is he out of work and only wants to do Snake-related shit?
>>333426416
I want to hear Tyrone read Snake's lines when he tells Otacon that love can bloom on a battlefield.
http://youtu.be/xGfcmlIQ6cU
>>333426575
Republique is an actually good game though.
>>333426831
he loved being snake and apparently kojima has been trying to get rid of him since mgs 3
>>333426575
>Captain America video
>>333426924
My point is he has 0 range
>>333426932
Why did Kojima care so much about who the English voice actor is?
Let's be real though, it would have been fucking amazing to hear Hayter's Snake as the real Big Boss at the end of The Phantom Pain.
There's no fucking explanation for the voice change and I hate the continuity error it causes.
>>333426575
He... actually doesn't sound so bad in that Dragon Age Inquisition one. Almost sounded like how he did in the first MGS. He sounds good when he doesn't fucking force it so hard.
>>333426478
I'd say his MGS1 voice is the best.
Very closely followed with his MGS2 voice, but the harshness is more consistently there. Snake in MGS1 is more subtle and a little softer in his tone and inflection.
MGS3 is pretty much the same as his MGS2 performance.
MGS4 is when you see him take a big drop off, but that's OK, because Snake is dying. He's a sick old man now, it's understandable his voice would reflect that.
Now here's where the problem lies. When he comes around to Peace Walker, no one told him to lighten his voice up because he's playing Big Boss, not Old dying Snake.
He should have gone back to 'healthy' Snake voice from MGS3, but instead, he keeps going with the MGS4 direction, and makes his voice cartoonishly gruff and harsh, despite that Snake isn't dying anymore.
>>333427067
He's a mean ding dong
>>333427067
he wanted kurt russell to be big boss because he's a westaboo
>>333427235
Worst thing is, Keifer doesn't even talk that much. Changing it just wasn't worth it.
Real talk, why hasn't Konami approached Hayter to do a dlc voice pack now Kojimbo is out of the picture?
>>333427235
Hayter is a hack and Kojima did the right thing.
It doesn't fucking matter about "continuity". There's so many times they just completely change VAs even in the direct sequel for many series, the fact Hayter held the job for 10 years is amazing.
>>333425061
They made a live action reboot of street sharks?
>tfw the reason they tell Hayter to get more gruffy in each game is to break his vocal cords so that he may never voice act again
>>333427067
because the JP voice actor manages to do exactly what Kojima wants. There are tons of things like solidus and snake being the same voice actor in JP mgs2 but with slightly different tones, but because of hayter's terrible range they had to get a different one. Kojima also had to re-write a lot of lines in the english version because hayter couldn't perform the original script. Kojima has tried to get a different actor to do snake since halfway into mgs1.
>>333427460
their shekels are too important to give out just for that.
>>333427460
there's a huge disconnect between the players and executives of konami so they probably haven't even considered it as a possibility
>>333427460
>why hasn't Konami approached Hayter to do a dlc voice pack now Kojimbo is out of the picture?
Because they want out of the AAA business in general.
Next Metal Gear is going to be Metal Gear Solid 6: Mobile Ops. No VA required, it's just going to be a 100% staff management game.
>>333427460
>Konami
>giving a shit about anything
>>333426932
>>333427067
not so much as get rid of Mr what's his name, more like to bring in his idols Russell ,Sutherland, etc. Remember anons Kojima is a movie guy first and foremost.
>>333427839
Metal Gear pachinko machines
>>333419474
>Last month the Metal Gear Solid fan remake, Shadow Moses Project, was unceremoniously shut down, ostensibly due to legal pressure from Konami
No fucking shit, REALLY? I NEVER would have expected that to be immediately shitcanned upon announcing it. THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T ANNOUNCE YOUR DUMBASS FAN PROJECTS UNTIL THEY ARE READY TO PUSH OUT THE DOOR!
>>333420374
Yeah but GZ took place only months after PW so it doesn't make sense for him to go from classic Hayter to "Ketchup waiter huh?" in the span of months. If Hayter voiced snok in GZ but didn't in TPP it would be a little more bearable and make more sense.
>>333420374
>and he was probably a bad move budget-wise
If I recall, he was actually cheaper than Hayter would have been.
>>333427460
Because nobody actually wants that shit. His Snake voice is terrible. See MGS4 and PW.
>>333419474
>he was involved in a remake of MG1
>game got shut down after he tried to take the project over
>implying it wont happen again
Hayter is a salty piece of shit who got worse over the years.
>>333428494
now look at 2 and 3
>>333428404
People say this, but I fucking doubt it.
Kojima wanted Hayter replaced after MGS2, he wouldn't have been that expensive at that point. It wasn't about the money, Kojima wanted to suck some Hollywood dicks because he got it in his head that only stars like Chief Kief or Kurt Russell would give his game good voice acting and legitimacy.
I've seen some nuclear levels of butthurt on this board before, but never have I seen butthurt on the level of David Hayter on losing the role of Snake. Years later and he's STILL salty about it.
>>333428494
I would.
I agree PW was bad, but his performance in MGS4 worked because unless you forgot, Snake was old and dying throughout most of that game. It'd make sense for his voice to sound like he's got lung cancer because he's at death's door.
The mistake he made was not adjusting back to MGS2/3 Snake, who is not old and dying for Peace Walker.
>>333428752
>but I fucking doubt it
Even hayter's sure he was more expensive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMHPbo3UK1Y
Hayter is unionized, he fee goes up with every game. On the 8th game its not out of question that he'd be more expensive than a B lister
>>333425856
>breaks world records, ignites the new "videogame movie craze"
Not with Avi Arad being producer.
The man is responsible for so many turds.
>>333426591
That's the TRUE Silent Hill experience, now that you have accepted it, you may face the final boss
>>333427273
Actually wasn't his fault. The voice director apparently told him to use Old Snake's voice for some reason.
I honestly feel bad for David
>>333428494
MGS4 was fine. He was physically a tired, dying old man who smoked for most of his life and that's what he sounded like. Of course he was going to sound like shit. PW was a poor performance though. It was like he was still trying to do Old Snake for some reason even though he was only playing a man in his, what was it, 30's or 40's by that point. Some say doing Old Snake's voice messed up his throat and maybe that's true but it still amounted to a bad voice in PW, legit excuse or no. Who knows, maybe it was the voice director telling him to do it, in which case, that's a legit excuse for Hayter but it still means somebody fucked up.
>>333429372
dont
>>333426932
It wouldn't bother me that he was trying to get rid of hayter if he had changes Akio as well, not to mention wasn't trying to replace him specifically with Kurt Russel.
I like Kojima, but he's such a little starfucker sometimes.
>>333429035
He's also partially responsible for the ongoing shitty superhero movie craze.
>>333429676
akio has range, is actually friends with kojima, and Snake/BB is slightly based on him along with snake plisken, james bond, etc. Akio is the last person who would be changed. Meanwhile Hayter has absolutely no range, see >>333426575
>>333429280
That's an excuse perpetuated by delusional retards.
In his various attempts to do the young voice without direction he still fails completely, such as in >>333419932
>>333430534
But that Captain America voice is the MGS2/MGS3 Snake voice.
>>333425062
He can still do his MGS1-2 voice.
He just does his 4/PW voice when he is asked to.
>>333427235
I agree.
>>333427389
I liked Keifer, but Hayter is much better imo.
Keifer had a ton of lines done, but since Konami rushed them we never got to hear them in game.
>>333419474
Did he not fucking learn after Konami shut down that MGS remake? Holy shit this faggot.
>WAAAAHHHH
>IM SNAKE
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>GIVE ME ATTENTION
>>333433697
Rather, do devs not learn the lesson of not announcing shit until they're practically ready for release?
>>333419474
Hasn't he already been with some "fan projects" that always end up being cancelled?
>>333423262
Once people realized that the 10 lines Kief got to do were better than Hayters entire voice acting career they came around
>>333419474
>HE CAN'T LET IT GO, HOLY SHIT
Neither can /v/. Despite it being released months ago we're still having daily MGSV threads about "so why was it so bad?" and shit like that. You're all Hayter as well.bonus bit of information, his voice was bad in PW because he was directed to sound like that, he's done the voice since then and it was nowhere near PW bad
>>333426575
>Winter Soldier
Jesus fucking christ that's literally the Snake voice
>>333419474
>Was dead sure that Hayter was in on some ARG shit that had him as the voice of solid snake instead of big boss, or some MGS2-tier misinfo from kojima
>Actually was having an autistic tantrum for all these months
His voice MGS4 and onward turned to shit though. Peacewalker was all phlegm.
>>333419474
Good for him
>>333434312
>Actually was having an autistic tantrum for all these months
>months
Try years.
you could probably offer hayter 5 bucks and he'd do the snake voice for you even if you were just asking if he had change for a vending machine or something
http://www.gamespark.jp/article/2016/03/28/64710/comment.html
>mfw nips are sympathetic to Hayter
guess they haven't seen his tantrums
>>333434312
>his voice
Time and time proven that it was the shitty voice director, not Hayter's fault.
Check the fucking Winter Soldier vid.
Literally MGS2/3 Snake.
The "hating on Hayter" meme is quite possibly the most impressive thing I have ever seen on /v/.
People used to love this guy, until some contrarians showed up in MGS5 threads and 90% of people told them to fuck off.
Fast forward, everyone hates Hayter and his voice acting, when 1 year ago the big majority of people loved both of them.
at first snake voice was really awesome, after meet the actor who put his voice now everytime i heard it i fucking cringe and i hate fell that way
>>333438139
>everyone
I legitimately hope it's just the same vocal minority of shitposters.
Queefer was literally drunk sounding and half assing all the lines.
Hayter's campyness would even add personality to Venom with the small amount of dialogue he had, but with Queefer he comes off as so forgettable that I already don't remember his voice other than SHE SHURFIFE and SLOICE OF UHMRRKAN POILE ON KOMMJUNIST SOIEL.
>>333438139
More like people started seeing what a sore loser he was and lost their respect for him and got tired of his endless salt
It'll get shut down just like their last project.
>>333438139
i felt that way and i dont know ,why, im this >>333438240
>>333438139
I also don't get it desu. I can completely understand why he'd be pissed that after 20 years of doing a character, he'd be dismissed without even getting a phone call. I'd be pissed too.
He seems to truly enjoy portraying the character and I feel bad for him desu.
https://youtu.be/mfStIJ8Qh0c?t=1m55s
He still nails it.
>>333426404
Hayao Miyazaki: King of anime. King of salt.
I don't understand why he would do that voice
Like, he's still perfectly able to do the MGS1/2/3 voice(go look at some post-peacewalker panels, he still can), why would he do the shitty one?
>>333424804
Why? It was just awkward to me, like Skullface had a skullrection staring right at Snake but Snake was too nervous to say anything and also hadn't been laid in a while.
>>333419474
Big Boss should have a different voice than Solid Snake. Liquid and Solidus sounded different. Besides what would happen if they remade MG1 and Big Boss and Solid met face to face and had the same VA, that'd be fucking stupid.
>>333439720
>that'd be fucking stupid
You mean how Solid, Big Boss and Solidus all have the same fucking VA in the Jap version?
>>333421120
underrated post desu senpai
>>333426526
Does he sound different when each character interacts with one another? Because hayter wouldn't have been able to do that.
>stars in fan made game
>actually nails the performance
>all you shits just on the Hayt-wagon overnight
>>333439984
Solidus had the same voice too. That is stupid. Poor japs
>>333439409
Because that's what the voice director told him to do.
It was probably almost like a skit.
-Hayter doing MGS1 snake voice-
Director : No, go harsher.
Hayter : Ummm, OK.
-Hayter does MGS2 Snake Voice-
Director: No, no no, still too soft, you need to be gruffer.
-Hayter does MGS3 Snake voice-
Director: No, gruffer, more gritty.
-MGS4 Old Snake-
Director: Almost, but just a bit more.
-PW Snake voice-
Director: Perfect!
And everyone in the recording studio is shaking their heads, but they can't speak against the VA director.
>>333440590
It isn't stupid in the slightest as they are all physically very similar, and Akio Otsuka is a fantastic VA.
>>333440776
Yeah that's fair, but let's not act like hayter is some great actor that can reach different ranges. He has gruff, Gruffer, gravely gruff, and old gruff. I get mgs fans love him but he's comically bad at voice acting
>>333441592
I'd agree with that.
But I'm saying, it's pretty clear that he can still do MGS1/MGS2 Snake if he wanted to. He's even done it recently.
But it seems like he was made to go into that insane Peace Walker voice, like that wasn't an accident, someone wanted him to sound like he was going to croak from lung cancer in a month.
>>333424061
If it's been a thing for a while, he should've already expected this. Which makes even less sense as to why he's still salty about it.
>>333420374
Venom needed a different voice because he wasn't Big Boss.
If Kojimbo had rehired Hayter at the last minute to record lines as the real Big Boss and claimed that the firing was all a massive ruse to keep the plot twist that Venom was actually the medic, it would have been the biggest damn ruse cruise of their careers.
Completely missed that opportunity.
>>333434042
Maybe that's the reason Kojima canned him? He doesn't have much range? I don't really care honestly as long as they have him voice Soild, if he ever makes another appearance.
>>333419474
FUCK YEAH!
>>333438337
Snake's voice fit perfectly with the tone of the series. There's a reason it's so iconic.
>>333445093
Doesn't look a thing like snake.
>>333442278
Why does that look like a public bathroom
>>333443401
This.
Kojiman missed the opportunity of a lifetime.
>>333445208
of course he does
>>333426893
Have you got $10?
I get the impression that most people that don't care for Hayter are the younger generation that only played from mgs3 onward.
>>333419474
>Hayter goes on to star in a fan project
>based Keef goes on with his life
>>333446131
>get the impression that most people that don't care for Hayter are the younger generation that only played from mgs3 onward.
You get that impression because it's literally true. Many 'fans' here started with MGS4, those are the worst.
>>333446131
Yeah, I'm sure you can get that impression from an anonymous image board
>>333426182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqJEO79ZTkQ
It's his real voice. Look up MSF_Actual aka Souix aka Snake.
>>333419474
>implying konami wont shut down this project as they did with every MGS related fan-project.
salty snake
a man with a troubled past
>>333425104
>that echo at 0:21
>>333446558
that fan movie was okay though
did they ever make part 2 of it?
>>333426543
That's because Kiefer costs too much and was probably sloshed for half the takes
>>333446383
I guess I'll cough up a (you).
I've played this franchise since Metal Gear Solid was new on playstation. David Hayter's voice was good and matched the character well enough. I'll never understand the zeal of the fanboys and girls though; in fact, many other voice actors outshined him even in MGS1. But Kojima was dissatisfied with David's performance, and even made him audition again in MGS2, and again in the following games. That's the most important bit.
Make no mistake. The only "true" Snake is the japanese voice actor. Snake's mannerisms are even taken from this man. That they look similar has been dismissed as a coincidence not only by Kojima but by Hayter as well.
>>333419474
>HE CAN'T LET IT GO,
Yeah because it's the only noteworthy thing he did. Guyver 2 was great but I doubt hardly anyone even knows that movie exists let alone Hayter being in it and his screenwriting career is a fucking joke with all the decent movies that had his name on it being rewritten by someone else to the point where it's pretty much a whole new script.
>>333448029
He wrote the first two X-Men movies didnt he?
>>333448116
I'm sure he wasn't willing to stay an extra half hour or come in for another day, does the Jap version have more Snake dialogue?
>>333448086
He wrote the first one which wasn't even that good and X2 had two other screenwriters. Go look up any movie where he's the only screenwriter and I guarantee it's shit.
>>333419932
God damn it why does he keep doing that voice when he can do his normal one just fine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LmxXeKzbT8&nohtml5=False
Guarantee he fucking still walks around conventions saying that he is the original Snake and will do the voice to anyone within earshot of him.
nigger even put references to MGS in that flop flick he made
>>333423262
Wow it's almost as if after playing the game they got to see the rest of Kiefer's role and fairly judge it or something.
>>333448583
I would love to see Keifer just randomly show up to anime expo at LA when David is there just to destroy him utterly
>>333447952
>But Kojima was dissatisfied with David's performance, and even made him audition again in MGS2, and again in the following games.
They all did. That's part of the process, and the reason is that Union rules state that a voice actor returning for a role needs to be paid more for it, so they want to make sure you still have the chops to knock it out of the park, or at least stay passable in the role.
The reason why Kojima wanted to replace Hayter is because he's a starfucker that wanted hollywood connections and saw MGS3 as the perfect opportunity.
>>333448236
You have zero proof of that. I don't even get why you'd have that idea in your head. People get paid to do a job and they have to do it. If anything Keifer probably cost less because, one, he's not that famous, two, he isn't a part of that actors guild. that means hayter has to have his pay increased, meaning he'd cost more for a shittier job than Keifer did. Hayter has no emotional range, TPP was clearly supposed to be a more melancholy game.
>>333447952
>The only "true" Snake is the japanese voice actor.
And even then, Keifer's absolute lack of charisma bled into his performance. I don't think I've ever been less satisfied with an Akio performance; he just sounded like a bored Anavel Gato in MGSV.
>>333448392
I'm assuming it's got something to do with Golden Week.
So something about vacations?
>>333448885
Don't even start with that union bullshit.
Kojima is indeed a star struck jap. However that is not the only reason he wanted to replace Hayter. Not by a long shot. and I'm glad they did. Hayter's been phoning it in for years coasting on the image of Snake.
>>333447952
>But Kojima was dissatisfied with David's performance, and even made him audition again in MGS2, and again in the following games
That's nothing unusual for the voice acting world. Quinton Flynn had to reaudition for Raiden twice for MGS4 and then again for MGR.
>>333449008
>>333449069
I thought it was just spoken with a mock accent to sound like a guy from some rich city
>>333419932
Dude what the fuck is that emotion at the end? Like why would he read the line like that? It sounds like Snake reading out lines for a trailer which doesn't fit this trailer at all.
>>333449156
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-10-10/snake-reveals-his-kansai-side-in-metal-gear-solid-v/.93991
>>333449074
>However that is not the only reason he wanted to replace Hayter.
That is most definitely the only reason he wanted to replace hayter.
>>333448885
>But Kojima was dissatisfied with David's performance,
>literally his best performance where it doesn't sound forced
>Kojima was still dissatisfied with it
How the hell did Kojima even tolerate him as still being Snake for so many iterations because he progressively got worse in the role with each passing one.
>>333426478
there are two words that are stuck in my head with his voice
it's
>LIQUIIIIID
and
>BOSS!
>>333446507
jesus christ
>>333428404
People say this alot but there's never any real numbers. Stop parroting that shit.
>>333449253
Kojima is definitely the Bruce Dickinson of gaming, however, there were many reasons to axe hayter.
>>333449253
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Kojima probably got increasingly annoyed by Hayter being a pest. As you can see, Hayter constantly does promotions for himself and comments on MGS. Kojima probably didn't like the fact that the voice actor for the english version of the game kept spouting shit like he was part of the development of the game.
>>333449626
Numbers would help, but to also act like the actors union doesn't hike up hayters pay is outright ignoring facts. Its been confirmed multiple times that's how it works. You can even go look it up
>>333449529
Because that part isn't true. Konami themselves DID attempt to replace Hayter for MGS2, but it was specifically down to money.
Hayter found out how well MGS1 performed commercially and as a result wanted more money to do the sequel, so Konami auditioned other VAs to find a replacement, but couldn't find anyone suitable, so they caved in and gave Hayter what he wanted.
His voice was perfect in mgs1. Then it was downhill from there as he fucking overdid the gravelly and smoker's lung voice.
>>333449894
Sorry, forgot the source. It's from Debi Mae West (Meryl's VA).
>C: There have been some strong opinions on it all over the internet. But Kojima said he wanted someone who could portray the character in his late forties. Considering Hayter is 44, I found it quite odd. Many people still believe that Kojima is playing mind-games with us and he will still be involved. It wouldn’t be the first time he played a trick on us. But a lot of people aren’t pleased about it.
Note – With the release of the first part of MGSV due out soon, it has become increasingly apparent that David Hayter isn’t involved and that Sutherland is indeed now Snake.
>D: I see that, and I understand. After Metal Gear Solid came out – I don’t know if you knew this – but David basically wanted more money. He said “I know you guys (Konami) made millions of dollars from this game, and as the main character I want more money”. They (Konami again) said that they would replace him then, and they couldn’t replace him. They had a big audition all over town, and they could not match his voice. So they gave him the money! You know what? He deserved it. So I’m sure Kiefer Sutherland is making a shit load of money.
>I can see how his voice is similar but I don’t get why. To me…you can see that David has so many fans. Why change it.
I’m not gonna bite the hand that feeds me. I haven’t been asked to come back, but I’m sure that if he understood how much the fans like David, then he’d be silly not to bring him back.
http://superdstuff.com/an-interview-with-debi-mae-west/
>>333419474
JUST
he's really dying for a new snake role. I wonder if he has any alimony to pay off?
There's a high chance the guys will make him do the correct voice and it will be good, you know.
>>333450716
Yeah, ok pal.
>>333449529
>How the hell did Kojima even tolerate him as still being Snake for so many iterations because he progressively got worse in the role with each passing one.
The solution is to replace Kris Zimmerman, not the actors.
Example; Steve Burton can actually make a great Cloud Strife when he's allowed to sound natural, but under the direction of Robert Buchholz, who did Advent Children and the majority of the games Cloud's appeared in, he sounds bored and angsty. Only in Crisis Core, when he was required to play a bit more of a happier Cloud, did he sound good. Great even.
Voice direction can make or break a character, and Kris Zimmerman has this weird idea of what Snake needs to sound like MGS4 and onwards. It made sense in MGS4...not so much for Peace Walker
>>333419474
>Kojima wanted Kurt Russell
>Kojima always wanted Kurt Russell
>Hayter STILL begrudges Kojima for bluntly dropping his ass to go hobnobbing in Hollywood with models and movie stars
Did he seriously think that any sort of negative western fan reaction would override Kojima's trendy auteur faggotry?
being such an esteemed screenwriter, didn't Hayter try to tell kojimbo what direction MGS should go? I can see why kojimbo doesn't like the guy
probably a shamefur dispray in kojimbo's eyes
>>333452439
Why don;t he just hire kurt russel
>>333452904
he tried
hayter had to reaudition for almost every role after 1
>Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker in 2010
>2016 still begrudges Hideo Kojima
Just move on Hayter goddamn
Jap's Snake was still voiced by Akio Okita though, they just want to replace Hayter for whatever reason.
>>333452904
>“I had to re-audition to for [Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater] to play Naked Snake,” he said.
>“They made me re-audition to play Old Snake [in Metal Gear Solid 4] and the whole time they were trying to find someone else to do it. I heard that Kojima asked one of the producers on Metal Gear 3 to ask Kurt Russell if he would take over for that game. He didn’t want to do it.”
David had a hard life.
>>333453495
DAVID IS LITERALLY SNAKE
A LEGENDARY ICON OF THE INDUSTRY
DELETE MGS 5
IT IS NOT FAIR
>>333451579
The series never got over losing Jeremy Blaustein, honestly.
What's funny is that I remember /v/ chimping out like nothing else when Agnes Kaku gave that interview to HG101 a few years ago where she basically said the MGS2 script she was handed to translate was a complete fucking mess and that Kojima as a writer was a hack who'd get laughed out of Hollywood in a heartbeat. A few years earlier, Blaustein gave that interview to the MGS podcast in the lead-up to 4 being released where he more or less said exactly the same thing and no one here batted an eyelid. Hell, faggots here going berserk over Kaku was even less justified, since that interview came out after 4 and PW.
>>333453301
He was a difficult voice to accept as realisic in MGS3, where he sounded like a kid pretending to be an adult for a prank call. In MGS4 he was completely terrible.
I understand if he's a little salty about it. He's passionate about his work.
Plus didn't he give half of his paycheck back to get most of the original cast back for metal gear solid twin snakes? If so well shit he's a cool dude
I hate that they keep bringing up him being the voice of "Snake" in Peacewalker.
For fuck's sake, it's Big Boss, not Solid Snake. A guy who was already voiced by another person in english before.
Stop trying to combine Solid Snake and Big Boss.
>>333454896
>didn't he
Parroted opinion detected.
>>333454873
that reminds me..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkyAOMR7t0U
>>333419932
CEASE AND DESIST
>>333454896
Yeah, the Twin Snakes story is true, at least according to Paul Eiding. Hayter did the new lines for Snakes Tales in Substance and the admittedly sparse dialogue in Ac!d 2 for fee.
It's funny, because I hear strories about Hayter that paint him out as being a total money-grubbing bastard, but others paint him as a legitimately pretty cool guy who loved his gigs.
>>333455141
Yes it's almost as if Hayter likes telling stories that make him look good.
>>333434312
is wu capable of making a face that isnt horrible?
>>333425061
I forgot about that. Need to watch that show.
>>333455426
I'm sorry but.. wu is this exactly?
>>333455218
But Hayter isn't going around telling people the stories about TTS, Snake Tales and Ac!d 2; that's shit that's only known from his contemporaries and peers talking about it.
Hayter's been going downhill since MGS2 and his Twitter antics the last couple of years are embarrassing, but why is it that people here in the last 18 months have been trying to make him out to have been Satan right from day one?
>>333455141
I had no idea about that. Oh man I forgot that ac!d even had voices, time to go break out the psp again and take a shit.
>>333424084
> They should have replaced him in MGS3, like it was originally planned, Big Boss should have gotten his own voice then.
Yup. The same voice used for multiple characters has always been annoyingly dumb.
>>333448995
>he just sounded like a bored Anavel Gato in MGSV.
Wouldn't that be in character for Venom?
>>333455540
Only the second one did (And even then, each character only had damage grunts and about 10 or so lines that could get triggered in combat; the MGS 1-3 characters in the Arena Mode just recycled lines from TTS, MGS2 and MGS3), the first one has no voice work at all apart from enemy soldiers having damage sounds.
>>333455141
>It's funny, because I hear strories about Hayter that paint him out as being a total money-grubbing bastard, but others paint him as a legitimately pretty cool guy who loved his gigs.
People don't like to think that Kojima can do wrong, so they pretended that Hayter was always bad and his passive aggressive attitude about the ordeal was overblown into a giant meme.
Meanwhile, Sutherland was the opposite extreme of Hayter; no charisma or presence outside of a single scene (that is quickly forgotten about in the plot) and slurs his lines like crazy (I guess he thought it sounded smooth?) The worst part, I can't even enjoy the Japanese Audio anymore, because Akio has to mimic Sutherland's performance, and Akio shines at being over the top and silly like Hayter was.
Literally nobody won at MGSV but newfags to the franchise. Everything charming about the series just seems entirely absent from TPP, and while Hayter's absence is the least of it's problems, it definitely is a pretty good metaphor for Metal Gear losing it's soul to Kojima's ego.
"I-i-its for the fans, guys."
>>333427520
> Live action Street Sharks
OH FUCK THAT WOULD BE AMAZING
>>333426182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTEMaM7INNI
>>333419474
they already tried this with metal gear 1, what's to say it doesn't get shut down again
>>333419474
>another precious David Hayter is a baby thread
A circlejerk to surpass Metal Gear.
>>333455141
What the fuck, I don't remember Snake Tales having ANY voiced lines.
>>333458762
There were only a few; the "You're Jennifer?" in the hostage room and the scream on the electric floor were two from memory that had to be specifically recorded.
>>333426538
Trump is running for shits and giggles he could not care less about the outcome
>>333444867
>He doesn't have much range
Oh and the kief does?
>>333460730
Far more than Hayter does.
>>333461226
Doesn't sound like it, going by MGSV.
He has always been a pretty mediocre actor too. Never been in anything special, never been recognized by his acting.
>>333461358
>Never been in anything special
Motherfucker, if I hear a bad word about the Lost Boys
>>333461617
Boring as fuck.
>>333429372
I would if he didn't throw a huge temper tantrum for nearly four years straight.
>>333461976
I'll find you, nigga.
>>333419474
He sounds like shit. When will he fuck off and die?
>>333445093
>not modeling him after Christopher Walken like the PS1 model
>>333461617
Lost boys sucks ass. The only reason to ever watch it is to riff on it with some friends.
"Micheal. Mmm Micheal. We're CUMMING for you Micheal." Ha, gaaay
>>333419732
>SO SAD I COULD DIEEEEEE UGHHHH!
>>333458895
Is this what Shillaryfags actually tell themselves?
>>333419474
It's girls like Hayter why you don't stick your dick in crazy
>>333462159
>not Kiefer
Whoever made this was a dumbass.
>>333419474
I'd also be beyond fucking pissed if I, the person who made Snake memorable in the West, were fucking disposed of for some actor who just said like 3 lines in the newest game, when I could've added TONS of lines out of sheer love for the character.
But maybe he's being too vocal about it.
>>333419474
>can't let it go
Of course he won't. Booting a VA that isn't dead in Japan is highly dishonorable, not like Konami would know about any of that or anything, but on top of that it was a role he poured his heart and soul into and essentially became Snake in a way. When that role was taken from him by a drunkard it was like part of his life was taken away and now he's feeling some sort of...phantom...pain...
>>333462384
>Christopher Walken like the PS1 model
Kojima always wanted Snake to resemble Kurt Russel, the 'christopher walken' meme just refers to how Kojima wanted a slim operative, not some big hulking guy like Arnold Swarzenagererera. It was never a reference to his face, you only need to look at the art direction, and more fleshed out character models of the later games, to see that.
Besides, we all know who the PS1 model really looks like.
>>333419932
This better be free or it'll be sent a Cease and Desist
>>333464060
Implying it won't get a C&D regardless of wether or not it's free.
This is just becoming more and more true as time goes on.
