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PS4 Firmware 3.50 / PC Remote Play


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PS4's latest firmware came out today,

>online friend notifications
>appear offline
>user scheduled events
>blah blah blah
and also
>Remote Play for PC

You can get the remote play app here,
https://remoteplay.dl.playstation.net/remoteplay/lang/en/index.html

I've been checking it out for about an hour now and it's definitely the most stable way to remotely play your PS4.

[spoilers]Win7 fags need not apply[/spoiler]
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nice spoiler fuck up fag
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>>333392814
nice penis fag lemme suck it
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>>333392749
>720p only
>no LAN
>only compatible with PS4 controller
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Why the fuck would it not be on linux
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>>333393016
Because literally no one uses it and those who do probably don't play on consoles
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>>333392749

>appear offline

Took em long enough.
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>>333393016
Remember how somebody found traces of a PS3 workaround through Linux and Sony nuked Linux support entirely through a forced update?
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Did it finally fix that fucking Discover power options message? That shit kept popping up every other week.
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>Want to play to my vidya
>Do you want to update
>No
>U FUCKING HAVE TO THO, M8.

Great.
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>>333393371
The update is 200 something megabytes, it'll be over in like 5 minutes tops.
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>>333393280
That was Linux running on the ps3, this thread isn't about extra operating systems for your ps4, just applications for your pc (except if it's got linux lol)
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Literally what is the point of streaming a console to your PC, unless your PC is a toaster?
Wow, I get to play games on worse hardware than my own, plus input lag and picture degradation because its streaming!
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>>333393712
NICE
I
C
E
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>>333392749
>System requirements
>Windows® 8.1 (32-bit or 64-bit)
>Windows® 10 (32-bit or 64-bit)

Suck to be you, 7ags.
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>>333393371
What, do you have a hamster wheel for a modem or something?
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>offline mode
Now I can finally fap to DoA without worries!
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>>333393928
A-at least the botnet can't watch me suck to be me!
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>>333393016
Linux is irrelevant.
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>>333394176
>he thinks that there's no botnet in W7
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>>333393919
i don't own a ps4 but my friend does.
Now i can play ps4 games without owning one. Thanks Nick
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>>333393919
My PS4 is upstairs and my bedroom and PC are downstairs, not a difficult concept.
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>>333394491

move your ps4 upstairs then, problem solved
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They brought back the USB music thing too, I always hated using the media player.
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>>333394597
I usually do, but it's a pain in the ass to lug that shit up and downstairs all the time. Now I can just leave it upstairs and still play my PS4 via my PC when I go to my room for the night.
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>Streaming games is ok when sony does it.

heh, typical hypocrisy of Sonygaf
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>>333395019

>More options is a bad thing
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>>333393919
So mustards can finally play Bloodborne on PC
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>>333394176
>NSA key disaster happened in late 90s
>Windows 7 is not a botnet
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>>333394286
If you keep track of your shit on Windows 7, there is no botnet. It takes like ten mins to wipe Mircoshit's shit off the platform.

10 mins of clean up duty vs. a botnet rigged from the beginning with no means to opt out of, you know what the reasonable choice is.
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>>333395302
What's the botnet going to do?
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>>333395142
Yeah suck it down sonygger
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>>333393192
>it's been 10 fucking years and SONY doesn't allow you to change your PSNID

is there even an explanation for this?
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Didn't seem quite smooth when I tried SFV.
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>>333393280
How dare they improve on the shitty product they bought.
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>>333395382
You realise you do still have to own a PS4 to stream it right? You realise it's still running off the PS4's hardware?
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>>333395521
wallpaper please?
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>>333395486
This is a company that was so retarded that they stored customers' personal information in plain text
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>>333395486
The txt file is set to write only.
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>>333393016
Sony doesn't share a positive past with Linux users.
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>>333395486
Google
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>>333395486
Apparently when they designed the system it wasn't built for people to be able to switch names, so now they're having trouble trying to find a way for renaming to work
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>>333395681
Write only at end of file.
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>>333394824
>pain in the ass to lug that shit

How fucking fat and out of shape are you? It weighs like 3 lbs.

Hit the treadmill you lardass
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When do they put out the update that lets me get all this social/streaming bullshit bloat off my video game console UI?
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>>333392749

>no Windows 7

DROPPED
R
O
P
P
E
D
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What the fuck is the point of this?

I'd rather stream it to my tablet or something if I was going to stream it somewhere
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Not seeing the point to be honest

Though the whiners on Windows 7 should just upgrade to Windows 10. It's free. What more could you ask for?
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>>333395613
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>>333396136
I'm sorry anon, I didn't know features revolved around your preferences and nobody elses.

Seriously, choke on a dick, if you don't need it, don't use it.
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>>333396136
>your table is not running windows
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>>333396265
>That hair.
kek.
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>>333396265

>disgusting mole

FUCKING RUINED WHY DON'T THEY LASER REMOVE THAT SHIT FUCK
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>>333396436
>not liking beauty marks
Faggot.
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>>333396136
there are people that are not foreveralone NEETs and live with people that use your TV sometimes, so you just stream to your PC and let them watch movies and stuff
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>There is still no way to disable specific groups from showing up on the "new message" popup that comes every time someone writes in a group
Fucking hell this shit is so annoying
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When can Sony do something useful?
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>>333396535
So, children?
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>>333393016
Sony hates Linux so much that they decided to fork OpenBSD for their PS4 OS.
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Any work around to make it work on win 7?
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>>333396529
>Stop disliking what I like
Faggot.
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>>333396529

>imperfections makes the good parts look better!

In the same way that you being a lardass makes your heart of gold that much brighter?

Fuck off, homo.
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>>333396851
>Stop liking what I dislike
Two can play the shitposting game
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>>333396819
I'll probably be a bit, but I expect/hope there are workarounds for the OS and controller restrictions.
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>>333396136
you can literally already do that, and to your phone you fucking idiot. Why is more options a bad thing to anybody?
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>looking forward to this
>not on win 7

into the fucking trash it goes
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>>333396908
I'm not the original poster you replied to.
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>Now you can stream PS4 games to your PC!
>But only if you own a PS4
Well that was pointless. Isn't PS Now what this is meant for?
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>>333396819

Yeah:

>Control Panel
>Windows Update
>Update to Windows 10
>OK
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>>333396793
>OpenBSD
FreeBSD*
My bad.
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>>333396959

Just update you rube.
What are you so afraid of?
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>>333397007
This got me to laugh, all those ylyl threads and nothing, but you. You fucking cunt.
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>>333397004

Well PS Now is PS3 only for now, so no that's not what it's meant for.
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so can I change my name yet?
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>>333393016
linux isn't for gaming stop forcing this garbage meme
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>>333397004
No, this is what remoteplay is meant for
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>>333397054
sorry if I dont like people spying on me
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>>333397227

Sorry you'll have to live with YoloSwag117 for the rest of your PSN Career.
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How would that work for keyboards?
Or do you have to still use your controller somehow?
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>>333392749
>Remote Play for PC
>limited to win8.1 and 10
>limited to 720p
>goes down to 360p@30FPS if needed
Jesus christ even microsoft did a better job at this shit
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>>333397152

I'm sorry, Anon.

It's probably because it was unexpected. I almost never laugh in ylyl threads because it's almost always the same shit and I'm expecting some really forced images and shit.

I'm finding myself laughing at more subtle forms of humor these days.

I'm burnt out on memes and shitty images.
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>>333397354
I never understood why people chose shit names to begin with.
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>>333397316

You aren't doing anything worth spying on.
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>>333397004
PS Now was Sony's half-hearted attempt to bring backwards compatibility to the PS4, Remote Play has and always will require a PS4 to stream from.
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>>333397385
I never really cared for meme's

I think we're getting old.
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>>333395074

>accepting options only when your favorite company does it.

Why remote play at all though. Might as well start buying stuff solely from Steam and GOG then.
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>>333397210

What is the point?
Do there exist people who want PS3 games so badly that they're willing to put up with streaming latencies and quality losses, but not enough to actually have a PS3?
Remastering everything from the PS3 makes less sense now.
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>>333395681
kek
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>>333394286
I haven't installed any win7 updates in like 2 years. I am safe.
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>not on the best version of windows
What are these nips doing?
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>>333397436
The PS3 came out in 2006, a 21 year old now would have been 11 when it came out. Did you have good taste in usernames when you were 11?
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>>333397586
Steam and GOG don't have Sony games though.
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>>333397714
too busy making pachinko and anime
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>>333397720
I'm 28, My old user name was Syner.

The worst one was probably, Skizzik, or Orgzvog.
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it's neat but there's no reason for me to not just play it on the console directly
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FFXV is on PC now guys!!
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>>333397720
I'm still using the same username I came up with when I was like 12. It's also unique so it's always free
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>>333397714
slot eyes can't into PC technology
I thought we had discussed this enough already
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my dad could do this with his pc two years ago through his smartphone

bonus, he didn't need a ps4
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>>333397861
Agreed, I've only used it once ever on Xbox One and once or twice using my phone on PS4.
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>>333397958
So?
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>Still can't change my ID even for a small fee like MS

Fuck you niggers
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>all these tinfoil hatters
>lol w10? i dont want them spying on me, no thanks
>uses the internet
>uses a cellphone
>implying any of those are safe from surveillance no matter what sort of "countermeasures" you are using

Delusional faggots.
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>>333397804
Meh. Not shitting on them, but Sony games really lost their luster when they began pandering to Westerners.
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>>333392749

>still have Windows Vista
>more and more programs are locking me out

FUCK ALL OF YOU.
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>>333398014
You guys should let us know what your PSN's are, not for adding just to laugh at how moronic they may be.
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>>333397590

I don't know man, ask someone who uses it.
I still have my PS3 next to my Wii U and PS4.
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>>333398019
>installing an OS that will waste your CPU cycles and internet bandwidht reporting everything you do to microsoft
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>>333397861
Yeah I cannot find a reason to use this because my house is small and only I use the PS4. My brother might like it though.

I'd love if you could stream it over the internet to somewhere else because I can't bring my console to college.
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>>333397720
I'm 28 and I still have shit taste in usernames
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>>333397876
>bottomdimples313

a-always free wherever I go
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>>333397861
I completely forgot that the XBone can do something like that too
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>>333398108
Ehh, I just add people I know irl and the "real name" thing they implemented makes it bearable to have a shitty ID that I created back in 2007.
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>>333398201
You wouldn't want that actually. If the tech were ideal, but it wouldn't be satisfactory to play it streamed over the internet like that.
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>>333398237
I've played a game with you before, and I'm pretty sure I called you a faggot over the mic until you left.
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>>333397861
If you're a college student like me, it's a godsend because you can leave your PS4 at home and just stream it.

Though you'll only get 720p which sucks.

Also you can play basically anywhere with a good enough connection.
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>3.50

3.55 cfw when?
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>>333398335
Why not? I thought that is how PS Now works.
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>>333398409
PS Now is Sony's infrastructure delivering content to you. This is just your shitty ISP doing the work and it would likely not be the same. It of course COULD, but it's usually pretty bad.
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>>333398014
Get yours banned like I did and they'll have no choice but to change it.

Though you lose all your trophies and online games progress.
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>>333392749
>No windows 7

Fuck this shit
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>>333398409
>>333398561
Remoteplay on the Xperia requires WiFi so I'd assume on PC and Mac it's the same way. There's much less latency over your WiFi network than there is going through the internet.
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>>333398014
I've heard form Giant Bomb people that Sony's on the down-low about why exactly they can't do that but apparently the network IDs were created in a way that changing them is no simple task.
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>>333398561
Fair enough, my internet is garbage anyways. Though my brother might like this, his PS4 is on the family tv and his son hogs the console, by the time he gets to have a go everyone wants to watch tv.

He has considered buying a second TV and a second PS4.
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>>333398579
>Though you lose all your trophies and online games progress.
So why not just make a new account? Why get your old one banned?
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>>333398708
>There's much less latency over your WiFi network than there is going through the internet.
what do you mean by this?
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>>333393919
because you could be visiting a friend and you could play your playstation at a friends/relatives house.
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>>333398710
It's no rumor. Sony basically fucked themselves by using a database that isn't easily changed.

To allow people to make changes to their username now would be a HUGE disaster. To the point where they're willing to turn down people begging to give them money to make the service available.
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>>333398561
I tried out PS Now with the 7 day trial and I actually really liked it, I wish it wasn't so expensive and you could actually buy the games though.
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>>333398805
I'm not saying it's a good idea, just sharing a story about how I had to change my name because my old name was deemed inappropriate.
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>>333398834
With remoteplay, your PC is streaming content from a device over your own WiFi network. It's a much shorter distance to travel, meaning lower latency. When you play on PS Now, you're adding extra distance into the equation. It's not just your local network but your local network in combination with your ISP and whatever geographic distance exists between you and Sony's server. Light can only travel so fast.
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>>333398971
Yeah it's a bit costly. I wouldn't mind throwing down 7 bux to play God of War 3 on a weekend though. I wouldn't really want to own the game and I doubt I'd play it again so that would suit me.
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>>333397720
I'm 25 and been using the same username for everything when I first started playing Diablo 2 back in 2000. Except for when I got a 360 in like 2011. Someone took it and I was pissed.
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>>333398993
You could just create a second account and use that one for playing online. There's literally no reason to get your old account banned.
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>>333399050
Ah, a bit unusual to use "wifi" instead of just LAN. I was thrown for a curve.
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>>333397720
I'm 21 now and I still have shit taste in usernames
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>>333399050
This.

Remote Play
Your PS4 > Your WiFi Network > Your PC

PS Now
Sony's Server Farm > Internet > Your WiFi Network > Your PC
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To those with Windows 7:

You can run already installed application, but it will give you a disconnection error.

Hopefully someone will figure it out soon.
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>>333399153
If you call them, they'll let you change your name and you'll be unbanned.
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Here's the already installed Remote Play folder:
https://mega.nz/#!4UIykQja!LtpuATDCSQyyaA-gOC-pVa6nbjDRZH-y7oxUulROqwk
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>>333399261

o kurwa
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Hopefully an option for 1080 comes soon. Other than that, I'd like the window to rescale if you set it to 720 as it seems to just default to 540 and you have to eyeball the 720 resolution if you want to reset it and not maximize an ugly image.
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>>333399186
True, you could be wired but I mentioned WiFi because I've only used remote play on my phone, and it requires WiFi. You cannot remote play over mobile internet.
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>>333399273
Okay, but you already said you'll lose your trophy progress. Why even bother getting it banned if you're effectively forced to create a new account?
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>>333399561
he's just sharing a life hack
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>>333399561
Did you read my previous reply? I never said it was a good idea. It's fucking dumb to do that.

I just wanted to share how I got banned by having an inappropriate username.

Just let me have my moment anon please ;_;
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With this and KI oht for windows 10 is it worth upgrading from 7? Ive only heard that windows 10 is shit.
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>>333399882
Find out for yourself, fuck. Why would you let other people tell you what shit is like? Do the research, find if you are okay with the differences.

Personally, it's the same shit as Windows 7 but better. Updating from 7 to 10 is worth it alone for the task manager redesign imo.
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>>333399882
Win10 is great, but there's a chance it will be buggy, freezy and other shit. But besides that it's great.
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>>333399882
It's called a downgrade for a reason. Microsoft is really desperate to push everyone on Windows 10
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>>333400043
Do people not know that you can revert back to windows 7 or are they just... nvm. fuck it.
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>>333400115
What is called a downgrade?
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Why don't they allow people to buy games from the store over the PC and then play it through their software?

It would still be exclusive but also give people the option to play it on PC while giving them additional money.
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Can you remote play from a PS3 as well?
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>>333400169
Cause then why buy a PS4?
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>>333399882
The best idea is to dual boot so you can play your KI on 10 and then boot back to 7 for everything else
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>>333396265
Fucking disgusting
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>>333399882
>I've only heard that windows 10 is shit.
From /v/ and /g/ memers who scream "b-b-bot net!"

I've had it since launch, and now that I've gotten used to it I can safely say it's an improvement over Windows 7 in most aspects. I don't know what these fuckers have on their PC that makes them so paranoid, but I've pirated tons of games and movies while using W10 and nothing bad has happened or will happen.
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>>333400276
Because most people would be too stupid to use a PC as proven by the PS4's sale numbers.
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>>333400259
Yes.
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>>333395545
Prove it
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>>333400441
Maybe people buy the PS4 because it's good
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>>333400441
>the only way to play PS4 games is to buy a PS4
>the reason for their sales numbers are that these idiots just don't know the secret other way to play PS4 games.
k
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tfw my psn ID is HeisenbergWalt1
kill me
i wanna change it so bad
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>>333400546
kek
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Does win10 let you rearrange files in folders in a random order?

XP let you do this and I had to mess with registry to get it working on 7
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WHAT'S A GOOD PSN NAME NIGGUH
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>>333392749
>download PS4 Remote App for Windows 10
>tells me to download some Media Pack
>OK
>download and install it
>restart
>try to install PS4 Remote again, tells me I'm still missing the Media Pack

What the actual fuck? Anyone else getting this?
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>>333400671
At least your ID doesn't have the word black in it.
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>>333400317
Your pic is offensive, not funny at all dude
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>>333400671
It's a reference to a good show, what's wrong with it?
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>>333400691
I'd say yes but I'm not sure.
I just know that I downloaded a torrent on Win7 once that did have files in a set order that wasn't following any sorting order and since Win10 uses pretty much the same filesystem it's very likely.
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>>333400139
Why waste my fucking time upgrading to 10 if its shit? I know i can revert but its a fucking waste if i hate 10.
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>>333400876
le fedora chemist man
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>>333400756
Figging
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>>333400876
Its just kinda weird, like the show has been over for a while.
I also posted it on /vg/ and people made fun of it so im insecure now
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>>333400970
Hurrr what is a couple hours of my time... please stop.
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>>333400756
DarkItachi666
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>>333400970
As someone who loves 7 but has been using 10 on a secondary PC for a month now, I can say that it's really not as bad as you'd think.

It's miles ahead of 8 and overall pretty fast. Obviously the spying shit is ridiculous but at this point you're kinda forced to use Linux if you completely want to escape the botnet anyway.
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>>333392749
Quick question: Why would I pay a premium to play a game remotely on a PS4 that I can most likely already play natively on a PC?
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meanwhile they still haven't fixed their billing system
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>>333400756
swagmaster1999
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Does this work ok on toasters? Is it just like a streaming thing or does your PC actually have to be powerful enough to play these games properly?
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>>333401210
yeah! their billing system!!
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>>333400756
CuckoldPrincess28
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>>333399370
probably a keylogger lmao.
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>>333401210
>meanwhile they still haven't fixed their billing system
What do you mean?
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>>333401270
i played nep just fine on my shitty prebuilt, more demanding games will probably need a better system though
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>>333401270
Can your toaster handle a 720p video on youtube?
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>you can stream on Dailymotion
I don't get it
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>>333400317
I've been running W10 since launch as well, I think it's fine.
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>>333395302
what you just said is literally the same for W7, W8 and W10 you nerd
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>>333401470
You can stream on everything else, what's one more?
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>>333401375
something they haven't fixed in decades,credit cards and paypal don't work for some people,as they are "invalid" when in fact they are not
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>>333401550
Shouldn't have tried to scam them. ;^)
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>>333392749
why the fuck would you want this when a console only requires a tv to operate
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>>333401726
time to think or read before you post! make your best impression first, hun!
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>>333401726
>don't have a PS4
>friend/brother/whatever does
>use their account and play on your PC
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>>333401550
>credit cards don't work for some people
This is definitely a much smaller issue than you're making it out to be. I've been buying stuff on PSN for close to 10 years using credit cards, never once have I had a transaction fail.
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>>333401161
If you're buying a PS4 for third parties you're using it wrong. Here's what I like,

>LittleBigPlanet
>InFamous
>Uncharted
>Gravity Rush
>Tearaway
>Ratchet and Clank

What are you playing on PC? Assassin's Creed? Far Cry? Lawn Care Simulator 4?
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I have continuous audio clipping and static. Connection is wired between PS and computer. So much for The Players™
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>>333401821
Your friend shares your wifi?
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>>333398392

HOL UP

You mean I can play my shit in class instead of paying attention to the lecture?
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>>333402197
as long as your computer and internet connection are not shit, yeah you can.

you can do this with a Vita as well
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>>333402197
Yes you stupid faggot, there's may be no LAN, but PS4 remote play is the only one that also works outside of your network.
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>>333399743
>Just let me have my moment anon please ;_;
sorry anon, I got suspended from PSN for saying fuck on PS Home years ago, I know that feel. Sony support is shit
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>>333402192
Not physically but he could setup a VPN server that you connect to, yes.
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TO WINDOWS 7 USERS:

I've narrowed down the problem. We lack the latest Media Feature Pack that people with Win8 and 10 can install.
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>please enter the number on the screen
>enter it exactly as it is
>the number you entered was incorrect
>multiple times

the fuck?
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>>333402789
Sounds like a network problem. Are you on wifi? Someone else with a PS4 in your area stealing your net???
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>>333392749
Can anyone tell me how good/better this is that Vita and/or Vita TV remote play?
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>>333400317
The reason I won't use it and downgraded os because it is lacking a lot of compatibility when it comes to my thinkpad.
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>>333403116
I don't think the PSVita TV does this. Or really the Vita itself.
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>>333397958
He could stream his PS4 without a PS4?
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>>333396265
Man., fuck this shit.
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>>333403195
But it does. You can stream to PS4 to your Vita or Vita TV
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>>333403034
kek nevermind I'm a dumbass faggot. I thought updates automatically installed if the system was in rest mode but I guess not. I'm kind of new to the PS Quad
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>>333403116
>>333403195
Both the Vita and TV have PS4 Remote Play functionality, I only ever used a Vita to remote play prior to the PC app and in my experience the PC app is far more stable.
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>>333401821
so you mean to tell me that I can play ps4 outside of my house with just my laptop, wifi, and a controller?
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>>333403116
Better resolution and framerate with better stability unless they change the vita stuff since it's launch.
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>>333403469
They usually do, but for some reason this one ran into an error and I had to install it manually.
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>>333400498
Are you retarded ?
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>>333403195

They literally marketed the PSTV as doing nothing but this.
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>>333392749
so in order to use the remote play feature. does the pc need to be in the same house? if i wanted to play my ps4 while i was at a friends house on their pc, could i? as long as all the proper apps are installed of course.
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So I can play Bloodborne on PC now?
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>>333403663
Yes, you'd be able to remote play your friend's PS4 from your house.
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>have to keep PS4 in Rest Mode

What a waste of energy.
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>>333403686

You can play Bloodborne on your PS4 but have the video output to your monitor instead of a TV screen.
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>>333392749
>720p only
>no lan
>cant use any controller i want

fucking stupid

with xbox streaming i can use any controller i want as long as i can map it to xinput.
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>>333402721
Is there a way to work around that?
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>>333403785
>Not using rest mode
What the fuck? Rest mode is fucking awesome.
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>>333403863

Yeah. Upgrade to Windows 10.
It's fast, simple, and best of all free.
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>>333403846
the xbox controllers are shit though.
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>>333403759
way to read between the lines!
sweet!
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>>333403846
I would imagine, like the Vita's remote play capabilities, it will improve over time.
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>>333403785
Rest Mode doesn't use that much energy, m8.
Plus, jsut turn it off when you go to sleep or something.
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>>333403785
>cold booting a ps4

say goodbye to your HD m8
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Sonyggers try so hard to be PC gamers.
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>>333403931
Did you say free?
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>>333404046
(You)
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Would there be some way to circumvent the DS4 requirement?
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>>333404083

Well I didn't say it but I typed it.

But yes. Free.
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>>333404026

>say goodbye to your HD m8
Wat?
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Mfw Xbox Juan had streaming first
Mfw ps4 fanboys be like "our streaming is better"
Mfw console war is retarded and brings the autism out of all of us
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>>333404123
Not currently, but I imagine it's gonna be the first thing modders look in to.
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So i can finally play FFXIV on my toaster now?
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>>333404149
cold booting is known to remove definitons from your picture. dumb as
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>>333403116
Works pretty good on the vita, though sometimes text is very small for the vita.

Some anons, dont know you can change the framerate to increase it on the vita, I think it works pretty good, but the missing R2,L2, R3,L3 buttons which are map to the touchscreen make it tough to play some games.
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Does it have disgusting lag? Could I play SFV on my PC?
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>>333403943
>thinks the only controllers that exist are playstation and xbox controllers
>thinks xbox controllers are shit

fucking idiot detected
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>>333403898
How? Why not just turn off your PS4 completely and save energy.
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>>333404321
>>333404321
networked it doesnt have lag, over the internet it does have a slight lag, so playing online a game like SF5 would be no good.
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>>333404185
No one has said anything like this
>>333404149
He means your hard drive
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>>333404404
cause rest mode, auto downloads updates for your games, and boots almost instantly.
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>>333404331
I never said anything other than xbox controllers are shit.
>Reading comprehension.

Good job m8.
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is there a way to do this with ps3
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>>333404404
energy consumption in rest mode is almost nonexistent, you're paying $10 max in yearly electricity bills, and that's with usb charging on
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>>333404673
Just get a capture card.
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>>333404404
Because you can enter rest mode while playing a game and you'll be exactly where you left off when you turn your PS4 back on, it's incredibly convenient.

Also automatic firmware updates and game updates while it's in rest mode.

Also going from rest to on is much much faster than going from off to on.

The energy you're "saving" is negligible.
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>>333404789
*additional $10
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>>333397004
I wish PS Now had Demon's Souls
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>>333392749
>PS4 UI is still complete shit

When will they fix it? The PSP/PS4 UI was perfect.
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>>333404404
Just having auto-updates on is godsend for how many fucking updates games have these days.
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>>333397004
>Isn't PS Now what this is meant for?
No.
Why the fuck would they ruin platform exclusivity for themselves?
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>>333405037
This alone justifies using it.
Stop being a fucking tree-hugging hippie and use your PS4 the way God intended.
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>>333396265
Literally 10 seconds to fix
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>remote play your ps4
>on your pc
>windows 10

not even once
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>>333405940
nice meme
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>>333405557
>all that smudge where you removed the hair

that's terrible
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>>333395142
10/10
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>>333406087
Fixed
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>tfw I can play my Xbone and now my PS4 games on PC while playing PC games.
PC is truly the master race
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>>333400498


kill yourself
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Quick.
Should I buy a PS4 or DS?
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>>333406665
A regular DS costs $10, $20 if you buy a flashcart for free games
A PS4 costs more than $200
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>>333406665

A regular DS or a 3DS
Either way the answer is yes, if you don't yet have one.
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>>333406745
>>333406858
meant 3DS
Guess I'll wait until the PS4 has more of a selection other than Persona 5 and BB
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>>333406525
>Banjo will never be on PS4 where he belongs
At least we have Yooka-Laylee
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>>333407497
>Where he belongs
Not WiiU?

Are you retarded?
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>>333395913
Not him but it's just plain annoying that I have to move the thing from room to Room depending on what tv I want to play the thing on
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>>333407874
Downgraded shit no thanks
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>>333401869
PS4 is made entirely for AAA third party games fuckboy, you really think any sane person is going to install origin or uplay on their computer? Sony throws any and all indie games to PS+ users which is pretty much everyone
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>>333407956
So you're just retarded then?
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>>333393919
I see it as potential to have PS4 games to play while you shitpost on 4chan
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Piece of shit Remote Play app doesn't seem to detect my dual shock 4. Fuck, tried out every usb port, different cables, and 2 controllers, what the fuck.
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Would a PSVita work as a controller for the PC?
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>>333410054
you can do direct ps4>vita streaming
you dont need a pc in the way
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>>333400798
Found this out, you have to actually enable Windows Media Player if it's disabled under Control Panel -> Turn Windows Features on or off
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>>333407874
Wii U is dead and if the NX flops so is Nintendo
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>>333406385
fantastic
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>PC Remote Play
Just get a fucking hdmi cable
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>>333392749

>you can now play Bloodborne on PC

PC MASTER RACE WINS AGAIN
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>>333411336
Sure just let me run a 150foot $100 HDMI cable from by basement to my 2nd floor bedroom

Fucking retard
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>>333392749
this aint half bad
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>>333412138

How retarded are you?
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>>333392749
Will try later tonight while I'm at work.
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It's kind of comfy to be able to stream, I killed the Cleric beast on NG+ streaming on one of my characters and the experience is decent enough, not as good as playing it directly on the console and nowhere near as it should be playing on PC but... for when people come to visit, and I cannot go to the living room to play, it'll be nice.
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>>333411393
>at 720p
Still excited, honestly
For me, it was never about graphics

Also how do PS4 games work? Is it a code input or can you just use it if you have the disk as it should be
Because I have a psn acc and was wondering if I could attach it to a friend's ps4 as another account and just put bb on it
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>>333400671
at least it doesn't have gaming in the title then you are truly fucked for life my friend
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>>333400756
fnafYoloGaming666
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>>333406525
and yet we still can't play Nintendo games
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>>333413318
Why does this look so... quaint in 560p
will have to play at that resolution because I'm a pc cuck
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How's the lag?
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>TFW I enjoy playing games windowed at 720p so I can also browse the web during loading times so this is perfect for me
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>>333413393
What the fuck? You need the console itself, retard. The console streams to your PC. You will never be able to play PS4 games without having a PS4.
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>>333392749
>Having a ps4
Nice fuck up there.
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>>333414452
Depends on your connection, but at it's best the input lag is minimal. You won't have much of an issue unless it's a game that requires split second reflexes.
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>>333414582
I'll be using my friend's... like I just said...

why so angry?
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>>333396535
Or run an HDMI cable. You're an adult, right? Surely you can handle that?
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>>333414363
that's 720p anon
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>>333414834
You don't understand. There is no "code input" or whatever retarded bullshit you're spouting. It literally streams whatever is happening on the console to a window on your computer.
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>>333414725
>not having a ps4
Nice fuck up there.
>>
>requires Windows 8 or higher

kek, no thanks
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>>333415208
Oh, you can't have input through the PC?
What's the fucking point then if you can't use the system from afar?
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Anyone else having input lag? Guess my connection is just that bad
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>>333399091
That's dumb though, buy it and resell it when you're done. If enough people pay for this streamed game BS at some point it'll be the norm for new games and it's all we'll be able to do.
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>>333413393
>>333414834

Remote Play on PC is the same as Remote Play on the Vita. You literally just have a remote connection to the console and the console registers it as you using it regularly. You don't download games or share anything differently, the PS4 is working 100% the way it always does and if you want to play a game you still have to change the disc in the PS4 or go download it on the PSN store on the PS4. All this is is like if you let someone remote desktop your PC. The only thing that's happening is you can see what your PS4 is outputting while being away from it, you're still using the PS4.

There's no codes, there's no "i'll use this while someone else does too", there's nothing like that.
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>>333415480
You can wake your system from rest mode from your computer and interact with the system via a DS4 connected to a USB port.
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>>333415480
You can use the system from afar, but what you keep saying sounds like you think it does more than that. It doesn't, all you're doing is literally exactly what you just said - using the actual real physical system from away from it. The Vita can do it from across the world so I imagine your PC can handle across a room or two.
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>>333415676
This. I fucking hate this retard.
You ever use TeamViewer? It's basically exactly like that but you're remotely controlling a PS4.
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>>333400549
Go look at the games people are buying on PS4. You don't need a PS4 to play ANY of the THIRTY best selling PS4 games, none are only on PS4 and almost all are also on PC.
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>>333415676
Can I travel with the DS4 and play the games elsewhere, or does the DS4 still need to be within a certain distance for remote play to work?
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>>333415819
The worst part is that it's so not a difficult concept to understand.

>have PS4
>you can play it remotely from your PC

This retard just wants to have his cake and eat it without paying for it.
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>>333416137
Are you just shitposting now? Why would the PS4 care where the fucking controller is when it's being used remotely?
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>>333401869
Then 95% of PS4 owners are using it wrong because third party games are what sell, not the games you listed, some of which aren't exclusive anyway. PS4 has the most pathetic lineup of exclusives of any of Sony's consoles by a canyon-sized margin, it's pathetic.
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>>333415676
>>333415703
>>333415783
Thanks for answering my questions

I knew that it would be using the ps4 hardware and that it was just showing what the ps4 was doing

The main question, and only one that mattered, was >>333416137
Thank you for answering!

>>333416191
If you're talking about me the plan was to give my friend bloodborne so I could play it while he was asleep or out without actually being there
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Would be nice if they added 1080p over LAN but I guess this will have to do for now.
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>>333416137
HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING STUPID
>>
Anyone wanna fuck up Gascoigne in NG+ just for shits and giggles?

I can set up a password.

Streamers only
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>>333416245
Well, I assume I won't be able to make things happen on the PS4 if I'm tinkering with a DS4 that was formerly connected to it from about a block away.

When I use my DS4 to play, will it be connected to my PC which in turn feeds a signal to the PS4 or will it just be connected to the PS4?
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>>333416712
Fuck forgot to add the pic
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Hey pc bros, I'll share you my PS4 with Bloodborne and Destiny if you buy me DS3 on steam.
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>>333416350
See, the thing is, the farther away you are from the PS4 the worse the experience is inevitably going to be, unless you and your friend both have ultra connections. Just fucking get the system itself, you retard.
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>>333416670
hey, >>333416350 here
This just seems too good to be true I guess
at least for me, don't hate me, I'm poor-ish
I was worried it would be an immense fuck up I guess and just needed to be exactly sure
sorry
>>
Just tried out remote play. I haven't noticed any major input lag or sound glitches. Image quality leaves a lot to be desired though since it's like playing with an interactive 720p youtube video.
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Downloaded windows 10 for this and now it says "unidentified network-no internet" with my ethernet plugged in. Fucking microsoft, please help
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>>333401106
>Obviously the spying shit is ridiculous but at this point you're kinda forced to use Linux if you completely want to escape the botnet anyway.
99% of the spying done today is via websites such as any search engine and social sites which most linux "fuck the botnet xD" users still use
>>
How is the quality of remote play over wifi?
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>>333393528
took me 35 minutes for that 299.7 update
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>>333416915
>This just seems too good to be true I guess
Yeah, that's the future for you.

>>333417201
this guy said it best
>>333416916
>like playing with an interactive 720p youtube video

>>333417280
holy shit, fix your internet
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>>333400498
PKEKS EVERYONE LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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So I can play my ps4 at starbucks with my laptop?
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So how does it work?

Do you have to have to have your ps4 switched on somewhere?
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>>333393919
If you don't want a capture card, i guess?
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>>333417565
Allow it to be turned on over the internet via the settings, leave it in rest mode and the app can turn it on to from your computer.
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>tfw you have 30mbps dowload speeds and it only uses 8
Th-thanks sony.
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Ey famalam this update just bricked my ps4, it wont turn on
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>>333417565
just keep it on rest mode and you can remotely turn it on
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>>333417546
Depends if the particular Starbuck's wifi can handle it. From my experience they tend to be pretty crowded so I doubt it. Maybe a smaller cafe.

>>333417565
Leave your PS4 in resting mode and when you open the app it will automatically connect and turn the ps4 on for you.
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>>333417546
I tested it on my netbook and it works great.
As long as you have a good connection at least, it refuses to run at all with my cell's 3G.
>>
theoretically
could i open my ps4 and upgrade any of the hardware and it still work?
>>
>>333417739
when did rin have tiny t-rex hands
>>
>>333393016
Nobody uses lincucks except you /g/
>>
>>333417680
>>333417732
>>333417737
Man that is really convenient.

Not sure if I ever want to play the ps4 somewhere else
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>>333417838
to grip your tiny feminine penis
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>>333416971
Everything else works fine, my ps4 conmects to the internet wirelessly but my ethernet doesnt connect.

Microsoft is such a cuck
>>
>>333417972
Fantastic
>>
>>333417972
Might need to update your drivers. My motherboard's ethernet didn't have a working default driver so I had to download it on another computer.
>>
So, like, my bro can be streaming Bloodborne from a different state and I can still watch netflix on the ps4? Or does streaming lock you out of using other services on the console?
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>>333414528
So what you are telling me is that you are going to play your ps4 remotely through your computer while sitting a few feet away from it.

Can't you just get a screen that lets you switch between pc output and ps4. And use picture in picture or something?

Streaming has to have more lag and be overall worse than just using the console.
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>>333418178
You both can't use the PS4 at the same time.
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>tfw parappa the rapper 2 isn't working on pc remote play
Anyone else have this problem with ps2 games?
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>>333393016
Because Sony and Linux users don't have a good relationship with each other anymore.
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this is pretty great if you're stuck away from home (assuming you have decent internet access).
Just tried it and while the quality isn't great (the looking like a 720p youtube vid is accurate) it actually works surprisingly well with little lag on my shitty windows tablet
>>
remote play is pretty good

I was playing bloodborne on my PC earlier today. latency was good, could parry and dodge fine.
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>>333418358
Can you even use a controller on a tablet like that?
>>
Wish there was a Vita to PC thing similar to this.
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>>333418496
yep, with a USB OTG cable
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>>333414528
single monitor pleb
honestly just buy some shitty cheap one that's subHD if you have to, having 2 monitors is heaven
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>>333418265
WHY THE EVER LOVER FUCK WOULD YOU PLAY A RHYTHM GAME USING A METHOD PRONE TO INPUT LAG
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>>333398392
huh i was worried about the distance ever though its just downstairs from me. Worried about my internet though, i'll test this out sometime though.
>>
>>333418358
Why not just bring the console with you if you're going to jump through hoops to set up remote play?
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>>333418697
That's literally the reason why I wanna play it. Testing how much lag you get is always easier in a rhythm game.
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>>333393016
L-LINUX TRUE MASTERRACE!!!
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>>333418838
i mean, it's a cable i already have so it's not a big deal

Plus, carrying a small tablet, a cable, plus a controller is way better than lugging around a ps4 and needing a tv
>>
>>333393919
Im travelling and now i could play ps4 using my laptop as the tv screen. It really is amazing.
>>
Do I need to be connected to the same wi fi network as my ps4?
>>
>>333419220
No
>>
>>333419220
nope, that would kinda defeat the purpose
>>
Do you guys figure there'll ever be workarounds to needing a DS4 for remote play, and playing with other controllers?
I've been meaning to get a PS4 eventually, but if I can just remote play a friend's PS4 from my toaster that sounds pretty fucking neat to do in the meanwhile.
I've been meaning to try to find a pseudo cheap DS4 for my PC anyway. I like the way it feels.
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>>333417685
>internet caps out for me at around 1mbps
>that only happens if no one else is using it
why even try
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>>333419434
i wonder if they're keeping the ds4 check specifically to stop people from doing that
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so does this mean i can capture PS4 with OBS or something?
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>>333419434
I imagine somebody will figure out how to fool it into thinking any generic controller is a DS4 in the next few days
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I made webms of it earlier. It's a fun gimmic but i won't actually use it, my tv is in my living room and i'll play it there with no lag and real res.
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>>333419731
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>>333419731
what is the actual point of it? if someone else wants to use the TV?
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>tfw 100ms lag on local network
Shit is unplayable for 60fps twitch games basically. Not sure how it's this bad when Steam Link is sub-30ms.
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>>333419858
having options are always good, anon.
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>>333419943
If you're away from you PS4, like, on a vacation or something, you can just bring your laptop and stream it.
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>>333419858
if you're away from home
which i know is a difficult concept for a NEET to understand
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>>333419858
Playing it remotely.

I mean I guess you could use it like a wii u tablet too and play it while somebody else is using the tv.
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>>333419731
how much lag is there?

>tfw VITA wont get this feature
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>>333419858
Why do people keep asking this?
Here's the point of it,
>If your PS4 is in another room
>If your PS4 is in another house
>If your PS4 is in another state
>If your PS4 is in another country
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>>333420047
>house
>state
>country


implying that works
>leaving PS4 on 24/7
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>>333420219
it does, it's called rest mode genius
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>>333393008
>720p only
It's not like anything on PS4 goes higher than that.
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>>333418627
Can't you connect it through bluetooth?
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>>333420219
It's able to be woken up from suspend mode via network.
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>>333420219
>House
Tried it myself, PS4 is upstairs in the living, PC is in my room in the basement, works great.
>State
Probably works less great, but seeing as remote play is done over the internet is it entirely possible.
>Country
Might be pushing it, but still possible.

>leaving your PS4 on 24/7
It's called rest mode you fucking dipshit. The PC Remote Play app can literally wake it up over the internet.
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>>333420402
you can, but it only recognizes it as a generic controller so it doesn't work with the app
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>>333393008
>720
>game gets better FPS
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>>333393016
Because nobody cares about you you fucking neckbeard asshole motherfucker.
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>>333419858
also, you can keep watch over it while on vacation and make sure it doesnt get stolen :^)
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>>333420802
This is what I'd use it'd use it for.
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Nice, now I can finally play my ps4 while my wife's son is watching TV
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>>333393016
Because it's for hipsters and people that still code in C
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>>333401015
Grow some balls and get over it. Do you really hold your opinion in the hands of fags who post waifu shit all day? Just live your life and be you. Fuck trying to impress.
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why does sony hate the vita

imagine being able to play vita games with a full size proper controller
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>>333420325
You're thinking the Xbone. Even Bloodborne plays at native 1080p.
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>>333419731
I didn't have any imput lag playing BB though.
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wonder what its like with google fibre
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I followed all the steps and downloaded the program and it's telling me Cannot Register PS4. I posted on Sony's forums but they haven't responded yet.

I would love to play Bloodborne on my monitor without having to remove my mom from her shitty Lifetime movies
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>>333421193
>implying your wife's son isn't on his tablet watching minecraft let's plays
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>>333421521
>connect PS4 to monitor
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>>333421598

I don't have a 100 ft cable to connect my PS4 to the other side of the house where my PC is.
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>>333421961
>move PS4
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>>333422090

I don't have any other TVs with available HDMI ports. Otherwise I would.
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>>333421961
Are you retarded?
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>>333422257
what?

monitor doesnt have spare HDMI port?
cant get a switcher?
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The only problem I'm having is that my PS4 doesn't seem to turn on remotely even if I leave it in resting mode, but if I just turn it on and then search for it it can connect no problem and stream all right.

Weird.
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>>333423598
did you enable it to be able to turn on remotely under the power saving settings?
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>>333423598
Power Save settings.
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>>333424169
>>333424190
gonna check that, thanks anons
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>>333424294
>>333424190
>>333424169

That worked, thank you anons, also, I had to enable auto log-in
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>>333400756
Darkblackswordkiller666
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So what you're saying is I can play ps4 games on my computer?
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>>333393016
Because the only people who use Linux are people who code their own shit, Stallman, people who love Stallman, and people who think anything and everything Microsoft does is bad.
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Same twitch channel, one streamed through the PS4 the other direct feed on the web, the lower quality is really noticeable and, I think this is just because it's on the PS4 not because the streaming to the PC, it seems to be a 3-4 seconds of difference from the stream.
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>>333425240
Fcuk, captcha ate my pic.
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>>333393280
I don't know how computers work: the post
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>>333425240
you're forgetting that the ps4 one the picture is being streamed twice

once to your ps4, then to your pc
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Once again, sony copies and steals ideas.

>Microsoft charges for online

TYPICAL EVIL CORPORATION FUCK XBOX SONY FOH DA GAMERZ

> Sony introduces paid memberships
FOH DA GAMERZ. SONY DOESN'T HAVE TO STEAL CREDIT CARDS THIS WAY
BASED SAWNY


>MICROSOFT DOES PC STREAMING

OMG EVIL XBOX. WHO EVEN PLAYS ON PC

>SONY STREAMING TO PC ARRIVES AND IT'S NOT FREE

BASED SAWNY FOR THE GAMAHS.
WHERE CAN I DONATE TO SAWNY'S PATREON ACCOUNT!!!
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can I play ps4 games with a mouse and shit on all of the controller scrubs?
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>>333425504
No not forgetting that, just posting in case someone was interested in this.
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>tfw windows 7
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>>333395913
You don't have to be out of shape to find it annoying to carry something from point A to B when you use it and back again when you're done. You gotta unhook everything, carry that shit down, hook it all back in, unhook it again when you're done, lug it back up and hook it back in. It's an inconvenience
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>>333425643
>and it's not free
Are you clinically retarded?
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>>333425643
PC Remote Play is free. You're thinking of that fan made alternative which was made obsolete today
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>Have a driver wrapper so that any PS4 controller I plug in acts as a 360 controller
>Therefore it doesn't work with this shit

GG.
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is this gonna interfere with ds4 windows at all?
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>>333427039
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>>333392749

Pretty pointless atm desu, it probably be useful later on tho.
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>can't even use the youtube app while using remote play
into the trash it goes
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>>333405557
too late because I've seen it now before the fix
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>>333430181
>TV in use
>Want to watch a bluray off the PS4
>Nope, media protected shit, can't stream it
>Guess I'll have to use that digital UV copy instead!
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By the way, you can play split screen games with your friend's ps4.
I do it with a vita
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>>333430181
>on pc
>where you have a better youtube in a browser anyways
wat
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>>333392749
Remote Play at 720p felt like playing a Youtube video. At least there wasn't any gamebreaking input lag, though I was playing Platinum Demo so it's not like a little bit more of lag can make the game more unresponsive than what it already is
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>>333431141
A 720p Youtube video has a better bitrate than Remote Play.
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To anyone wondering

Input lag is less than Vita input lag.

To anyone who doesnt own a vita and doesnt know what that means. Its barely noticeable. Its there but its ALMOST non existant.
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>>333430121
>OBS studio

the fuck is this?
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>>333431625
Cable I guess?
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>>333393016
Nigga there's like 12 people in the world who use Linux and they all use 4chan
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>>333431760

Open Broadcast Studio. It's streaming/recording software.
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>>333432032
what is different about it than the regular OBS?
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>>333432105
u cheeky cunt
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>>333431625
Yeah, I played through the FFXV demo and didn't really notice any input lag.
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>>333432105

Studio is OBS rebuilt from the ground up and is what they are going to be supporting from now on. It'll support more platforms and features.
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>>333431834

I laughed way harder than I should have. As someone who browses /g/ it is hilarious how hard they try to push linux and it's the same few guys every time.
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>>333430121
How much better is Xbox's streaming?
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>>333392749
>tfw I can finally play madden on my PC while shitposting

Thank fucking god, best part is that remote play doesn't even need to be the active application to receive commands, so I can literally play multiple games at the same time on my PC now.

This is unironically the first update for anything I've been happy with in a long ass time. Really surprised it came from a console manufacturer of all places.
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So if I don't want remote play over my wireless network can I directly connect my PS4 and PC through a USB?
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>>333433035
No, but if they're that close why the fuck wouldn't you just use the PS4 normally?
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>>333393016
>linux
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>>333401510
>Win10 cucks actually believe they can remove the botnet from their malware OS
Top laff
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>>333433146
Because I like to use my PS4 as an application so I can tab to other applications while I play.
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>>333396260
>What more could you ask for?
Microsoft not to steal your personal information to sell and not to track everything you do on your PC
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>>333433215
>leaving functionality on the floor because you're afraid of the big bad botnet
bottom cuck
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>>333433215
>>333433619
>tfw every time I try to clear my cookies and cache it says that IE is open
>even when there is nothing open at all
>tfw I know that it's microsoft sending data to their servers about which porn I watch
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>>333400043
>it's the same shit as Windows 7 but better
>but better
No
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>>333434192
I mean if you disregard the spying, windows 10 is objectively better than windows 7...
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>>333433619
>willingly installing a botnet on your own computer
>calling others cucks
wew lad
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>still can't change psn name
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>>333434313
It's literally just a reskin of Windows 8, and Win8 was shit
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>>333434432
>It's literally just a reskin of Windows 8
Except that windows 8 doesn't have vulkan or DX12, both of which already run better than their predecessors.

I mean I understand hating windows 10 because of the spying but it is objectively better than windows 7 and 8 when you disregard spying.
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>>333434405
This upsets me way more than it should
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Any of you guys get this shit working on a uni connection?
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>>333432149
y
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>>333414318
>what is cemu
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