>Steam: Overwhelmingly positive reviews
>Destructoid 9.5
>Gamespot 11/10
Is this game really as good as they are saying it is?
>indie pixel shit
>getting good reviews from circlejerk clique games media
Its 100% obviously garbage
>>333382197
Couldn't tell you. They didn't implement online multiplayer.
So no buy from me.
>>333382197
It looks like the same thing as Nuclear Throne from what little I've seen of it
When you see an indie shit game getting rave reviews everywhere, you just know it's shit and the devs are buddies with the journalist clique
>>333382197
>indie shit
MEGA WHEN?!
>>333382197
>Is this game really as good as they are saying it is?
Is it ever?
>>333382197
yes
>>333382398
>image.jpg
fuck off underage
>HLD, super hyped indie game
>5 billion dollar K$
>almost 4 years in the making
>EtG gets released
>Everyone pretty much forgets that HLD exists
Huh.
>bullet hell game
I doubt they're shills since bullet hell shmoops are literally only gameplay with no story or walking simulation
but...it's a bullet hell game. thanks for trying, but i'm not drunk or asian enough to enjoy them
>>333382309
It's a bit more nuanced. NT is a very simple game.
>>333382421
Yes, /v/ is just full of cynical assholes. I'm picking this game up later when it's on sale because I've watched some trailers, can think independently from this hivemind and like the gameplay and design
>>333382351
this.
I don't trust anyone anymore.
Also I'm so tired of this pixel style too now.
I was playing snes roms on my wii through a SCART cable and it's almost as good as playing on a CRT TV.
I was playing Terranigma and you can really see they didn't really want to show sharp pixels at all in the art direction.
It really bugs me that everything is so sharp and jagged in the retro look to games now.
They even build the graphics to be more simplified to show pixels. Why do people want to do this?
There's such beautiful pixel work out there and it's all been completely overlooked, I guess because it's too much work to make something look good and nuanced.
>>333382590
I played it for a bit and it was quite boring.
Its just the FOTM indie roguelite.
>>333382691
can attest to this, nuke is the thing you sit down and play when you want to shoot the SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING HUGE GUTS RIP AND TEAR
gungeon is slower paced, like nuke mixed with some binding of isaac elements and great sound design.
personally I enjoy both very much
>>333382534
>not having a smartphone to shitpost on the bus
>>333382590
Because EtG is the superior game that also did everything better without Kickstarter.
>>333382764
this, it's not engaging at all and I can't stand the artstyle
I bought it on launch and completely regret it. long story short the game is stingy with the guns, and most of them arent viable, or just plain awful. this makes for bullet sponge enemies and bosses with health bars that eat up all your ammo
I have over 130 hours in Nuclear Throne. Don't want to do it again
>Decent animation, excellent presentation
>Guns suck, many are weaker than your starting peashooter. Items and syngergys are generally very boring compared to BoI
>Bosses range from piss easy to nearly unkillable. In addition to taking 4 hours to kill
>Consumables are ridiculously rare
>Difficulty is aimed at no-life nips and bullet hell autists
It's okay but not in any way on this planet deserving of 95%. Very polished but unfortunately very tedious and has some serious balance issues
>>333382267
falling for the
>le indie pixle shite meme
>2016
im lmaoing at yer lyfe
>>333382590
Hld was made by SJWs and thanked SJWs like Anita and Zoe Quinn for their work.
>>333383008
>only 150I would probably have over 200 but I pirated some of the earlier releases
>vlambeer shit
>not getting 10/10
Any indieshit by a popular indie retard gets 10/10.
Those sites aren't about reviews but about views and clickbait, they don't want to make the retarded audience mad.
>>333383227
what is hld?
>>333383349
hyper light drifter
>>333383349
Hairy long dick
>>333382197
i played it for an hour yesterday, the presentation is great, you open the game to this rocking tune that sings "ENTER THE GUNGEONNNNNNN, ENTER THE GUNGEONNNNNN" and it really pumps you up, the game really fills your inner dakka, everything in the game is gun themed, the enemy are literaly bullets shell armed with guns (the one equipped with shotguns are shotgun shells) and there are teleporter that looks like a revolver reloading chamber
i was able to reach the first boss and it was a muscular seagull armed with a gatling gun, it was like allen'o nell from metal slug all over again
the actual game is pretty much like BoI, but instead of power ups you get different guns, i haven't played much so i haven't seen lot of different guns but it surprised me when i got a gun that shooted t-shirt, you also have a dodge roll button that makes you invincible while doing the animation so i guess that makes dodging hits easier
how reviews work:
>does the developer/game have a big fanbase and hype
>it gets good reviews
only games no one gives a fuck about get bad reviews
It's got some fun puns, but it's slow as hell you play compared to NT and doesn't seem to have many interesting interactions like Isaac.
If you want a bullet-hell Isaac you could do worse, but it's just too dull plinking enemies with bullets for me.
>>333383008
It's not really anything like NT, aside from a few features the whole genre shares.
>>333382197
Flavor of the month
>>333383487
It won't be that popular or last that long.
Can we stop pretending roguelike is a good genre yet
>>333382780
>That ShekelStein face
Ruined
>>333383554
not roguelike, its roguelite
>>333382709
sounds rough :(
>>333383554
That genre has been going longer than you've been alive, respect your betters.
>>333383705
I'm 53
>>333383651
Yes rogue lite, because they're not at all like rogue, but they're sort of like rogue. Genius nomenclature ladies andcucks
Why the fuck do so many games that lend themselves this much to multiplayer only have local co-op? This game, Nuclear Throne, Towerfall Ascension, the list goes on...
Seriously, how much does it cost to have online multiplayer on Steam?
I like playing Binding of Isaac on my vita, shame this doesn't have a vita version.
>>333383430
>it was a muscular seagull armed with a gatling gun, it was like allen'o nell from metal slug all over again
no. that is quite literally not who that boss is supposed to be/modeled after.
jesus christ. go play metal gear solid you tremendous fucking faggot.
>>333382780
oh no a game will entertain you for a month or a week or two, that sounds awful.
>>333383775
And I'm the Emperor of Earth.
>>333382709
Do you think it's because of resolution? I'd imagine some designers just don't have the time to fill a 4k screen with pixels, whereas there were only a few thousand being put out on old CRTs.
Gungeon is fun as hell. Don't let /v/'s bias against pixel art dissuade you, it's actually a really great game with a cool style and personality to it.
I don't know if I'd give it a 9.5 or whatever but it's definitely worth 15 bucks.
POST FAVORITE
>Character
>Gun
>Active Item
>Boss
So far for me it's:
-Huntress
-Mermaid Shotgun (forgot actual name)
-Bullet Time
-Cannonbalrog
>>333383848
>I want to play bullet-hell games with 30ms of lag
Every single fucking thread, you're a broken record, fuck off already.
How's the coop? Decent, or is it only "fun with friends" tier?
>>333383992
>/v/'s bias against pixel art
Only newfags and redditors have that bias desu
>>333382351
>Steam: Overwhelmingly positive reviews
So, you think the devs are buddies with literally 95% of the ~18,500 people who own it on Steam?
Procedurally generated indie roguelike top down bullet hell with pixel art and RPG elements. What's it the Dark Souls of though?
>>333383992
Marine's starting gun is too strong to choose anyone else over him.
Pilot is also potentially better in the long run because of his ability to lockpick chests, but his starting gun is so shit that it's a chore to get through the first few floors
>>333384121
>What's it the Dark Souls of?
Procedurally generated indie roguelike top down bullet hell. Duh!
Why is the cultist so terrible?
>>333384121
It's the Dark Souls offun
>>333384252
Probably so that co-op wouldn't be much easier
new flavour of the month
>>333382197
it's pretty mechanically shallow, slow paced, and a good 80% of the weapons are trash
it can be pretty fun, has interesting art and fairly cool lore stuff but it's definitely not gonna be talked about in 2 months
also the fact the fact they got cobaltstreak to shill it makes me like it a lot less, that fat sperg irritates me
>>333384341
>caring this much about who plays video games and denying yourself the possibility of enjoying them
did you post about how outraged you are on all your curated social media platforms bud?
>>333383992
What a bunch of bullshit. That game is fucking retarded and only a mindless child could enjoy it. Thank god i didn´t pay any money and pirated it instead. Not even worth the 200mb on my harddrive.
>>333384341
literally who
>>333384469
>(You)
Now fuck off with your shit bait
>its another indieshit game
>better give it 10/10!
>>333384109
The game has been out for just over a day, why do you trust reviews from people who've put so little time into the game?
>>333383992
The Robot
Haven't found an absolute favorite gun, but I'm a frequent buyer of the Light Gun, Sawed-Off, Wind-Up and the Super Soaker
>>333382197
It's fucking awesome
>>333384425
>"caring this much"
i really don't care much at all actually, but i went to his stream for a couple minutes to see if i could get a key and he kept spouting his le epic catchphrases over and over
>>333382197
I've been playing it for 2 days, and yes, it is.
The only failure is that all weapons do pretty much the same damage, but other than that the gameplay is flawless.
>>333384574
I'm not arguing that they're trusthworthy, I'm arguing that it's retarded to assume that everyone who likes the game is shilling.
>>333383227
Source? I doubt what you said is true outside of one of the devs giving a shout out to one of them considering the game has no political agenda whatsoever
>bullet lel games
absolute plebbest of the pleb genres
do ya'll prefer controller or keyboard & mouse?
i've been trying both and they each have advantages, but i really cant decide.
>>333382590
kek, no
HLD is already a success http://steamspy.com/app/257850
>>333383038
this man speaks the truth
speaking of hyper light drifter
i just bought gungeon and have been looking at HLD, but i've heard its only like 7 hours.
is it worth TWENTTY US DOLLARYDOOS for this game if it only has 7-10 hours of gametime?
is there any replay value?
>>333382197
played it 2 hours
boring, but if you are fond of nuclear throne you'll probably love this one too
>>333385008
HLD is 8 hours long only if you rush without exploring.
It took me 12 hours to bear and I've only found like 25% of all the secrets and collectables. Would take 20 hours or more for the full walkthrough
>>333385008
no and no
>>333382829
>Not keeping at least several dozen pictures on your phone so you don't have to look them up.
You disappoint me.
>>333384848
Except your average consumer is a shill nowadays. Everyone feels the need for their purchases to be seen as good even here. Look at fallout 4 or people who argue the wicher combat is good.
>>333385025
NT is a high speed chaotic romp with solid gunshoot, EtG is a slow bullet-hell game with rouge-lite elements.
They're not really that similar.
>>333383038
Yeah I got the same feeling I might get refunded. The shooting doesn't feel good. And the dungeon itself is kind of boring.
Marine > Hunter > Pilot > Convict
>>333385607
Wow.
Look at this casual.
>>333382197
Here's an opinion of the game from somebody who's actually played it and doesn't share the 4chan hivemind.
It's pretty good. Go in expecting a bullet hell. I'm a pretty decent gamer skill-wise, I've hit level 4 boss within 4 hours and the game seems to be 5 levels long, so there's that. Somebody who plays exclusively bullet hells will probably clear the game in the time I've put into it.
I fear the enemies will start becoming repetitive, the first few floors don't have much variety. I haven't wiki'd anything so there's still things I haven't figured out. I've had fun playing it so far.
Objectively, for 16$ I'd give it a 6.5/10, good clean gameplay, nice variety of weapons, bosses are pretty fun though cycling them on the early floors is sometimes repetitive (something I didn't feel with binding of isaac).
>GUYS GUYS GUYS
>WHAT IF WE MADE ANOTHER FUCKING RUN'N'GUN WITH PROC GEN AND PIXEL GRAPHICS, BECAUSE THAT HAS, NEVER, EVER, BEEN, DONE, BEFORE!
>1111/10 So original GOTYOATYTEW
>>333383939
Compared to games that last several months or even years, FOTM games in general are pretty worthless, not that I agree with that anon in saying HLD is a FOTM game.
>>333385929
>every game has to reinvent the wheel and make it not round this time
Fuck off and play some gimmicky shite like Superhot.
>>333382272
Multiplayer is pretty much impossible in this type of game online. If you weren't retarded youd understand why it's not in.
>>333385937
You haven't got a fucking clue what FOTM really means, do you?
>>333386253
Flavor of the Month, pretty self-explanatory and nothing I said contradicts that?
You can get it for 6 dollars and for that price it is way more than worth it. Spent 5 hours on it yesterday and I'll be spending that if not more today as well
>>333386184
>Wheel no. 74123 deserves a 11/10 rating for being another fucking wheel like the other 74122 wheels already produced
>>333385902
wow anon , you're so special and unique and your opinion is truly ,categoricaly and objectively the best ; when i grow up i wanna be just like you
>>333385937
HLD is the definition of a FOTM game
Even worse, not one knows or talks about it a week later.
>>333386274
Yeah, you know the words, but you haven't got a clue what they mean because you're a newfag.
>>333386354
HLD isn't FOTM, there are barely any threads about it.
gill-bearing aquatic craniate animal that lacks limbs with digits is capable of directional motion by turning over and over on an axis.
>>333384545
Wow, two years later, still butthurt as fuck.
>>333386682
>He thinks anyone will ever forget that blunder
Fat chance, Tumblrina.
>>333386753
Wow, two years and five minutes later, still butthurt as fuck.
>It's an '/ntg/ is dead, so wandering NT fans go into threads about similar games and bitch that it isn't exactly like NT' thread
>>333384203
if you fail le epic 50/50 lockpick then the lock breaks and you can't even open the chest with a key
the crossbow sucks ass and needs to be more like NT's crossbow t b h
>>333386682
Two years? Jesus H Christ, time is moving too fast for me.
>>333386565
Sentient subterranean mineral formation is capable of producing armor with bullet reflecting properties at will in order to provide a means of defense against the unscrupulous general population.
>>333384075
local tier
>>333386867
Literally a minute later, guess reading a clock isn't part of the Women's studies course.
>>333383636
>normal pudgy white girl baby face
?
>>333384948
it was already a success before it was released you dumb cuckold, 600k from the kikestarter
anything else is icing on the cake
>All these people calling this shit a bullet hell
Jesus Christ, is this what it's like to be a rogue fag and hear everyone refer to whatever indie shit is FOTM as roguelikes?
>>333387116
EtG has a lot of bullet-hell aspects though, it's obviously not a bullet-hell but you're autistic if you can't accept the term being used as a descriptor.So yeah, you're dead right.
>>333387116
>Translation: WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
Just in case anyone else wanted to read this post.
>>333387101
>1990 was 26 years ago
>>333387337
>Translation: [noisy wet shit]
Just in case anyone else wanted to read this post.
Great gun variety, they've come up with a lot of unique stuff. Good map generation, great attention to detail, fun and distinguished enemies with different attack patterns.
THE GUNS SOUND AND FEEL LIKE SHIT
Everything else this game does well doesn't matter, the guns feel weak as fuck. They sound like pea shooters, they do barely any damage no matter how fancy they are (damage comes from item combinations and synergies, never from the gun itself).
Fucking damn it how could they fuck this up? It's not fun to shoot a gun. In a game called Enter the Gungeon. Seriously?
I like it, it's fun
Hunter a QT
>>333387308
Should doom be described as a bullet hell because you dodge brightly colored projectiles as part of the game?
>>333386565
ye so what?
>>333387116
Not until this becomes the standard bullet hell and traditional bullet hells are just considered elitist fag material.
Are they gonna add cursor support for controller users? Seem like a real poor gameplay decision to me.
>>333383992
>Convict
>The super fist, forgot name, shoots fist-shaped rocket
>Molotov for AOE
>Cannonbalrog as well
>God, the guns are so bad
>God, I am so bad.
Both of these sentences mean exactly the same thing.
>>333387481
no, doom isn't a top down game where you avoid lots and lots of bullets with the ability to destroy them all for a short time with the press of a button
>>333387481
If the projectiles were arranged in specific patterns, had a tendency to radiate outwards in all directions from enemies, and had a consumable that destroyed all the projectiles on screen, then I'd say it would be fair to say it had a lot of bullet-hell aspects.
>>333387584
You're a gun?
>>333383038
This, I like the game so far but you sometimes just get shat on completely. Even more with little to no consumable drops. Cause I sure love treading 2 floors with only 1 heart.
>>333387648
Yeah. As of now I'm just hoping people who are good at games come to wield me as opposed to shitshattered NT babbies that are upset everything doesn't die in one hit.
>>333387648
You're not?
This bullet hell game really is the Dark Souls of diluted comparisons
>>333383079
>using the "its the current year" meme in 2016
>>333382197
It's good so far but my pirated copy is broken so I can't go beyond the first level
>>333387662
>little to no consumable drops
This is what really bothers me about the game, aside from tanky bosses. Drops happen all the damn time in Isaac, and if they don't there's quite a few items that can give you free pickups.
>>333387851
did you download dauphong's
>>333387407
Didn't want to feel this today
>>333382534
You can rename pics on a samsung phone
>Mimic with a fuse
These Iron Maiden enemies really fuck up the pace, holy shit. Anyways, I agree with the opinion that the game is pretty damn fun, looks nice, music gets you in the mood, but the guns don't really feel that great. There's not much weight behind any of them, even the sawed-off.
>>333387971
At least you're not the vastly inferior Replicant brother Nier.
Cheer up papa.
>>333387953
noIGG
Rogue genre is mainstream now or it's the easy genre to indie developers clone?
What's the difference between this and Nuclear Throne?
>>333388127
Set screen shake to max.
>>333388201
30 fps.
>>333388201
Better gameplay, worse SFX.
>>333383892
>go play metal gear solid
nah fuck that
>>333388201
It's actually more difficult to name the comparisons between the two, but the basic combat is incredibly similar to NT.
>>333387851
they released a GoG version which i assume doesn't crash every 2 second like the other one but for some reason i get no music on that one
this is really bumming me out
>>333387762
the only way you can kill everything in one hit reliably in NT is pre loop with a crossbow and good aim or bolt marrow. even then it's slow as fuck unless you have trigger fingers or a gold crossbow with YV. the salamanders in scrapyard take two unless you have scarier face, and the snow tanks in frozen city always take more than one. past that you need an energy sword with laser brain or a super crossbow or something to kill the palace enemies in one hit. and good luck killing the dogs in one hit unless you pop pop them with a powerful gun and scarier face. the throne sure doesn't die in one hit either, and you have to kill the generators as well which also have a fair amount of health. on loop it's a clusterfuck of shit with varying degrees of health, so a simple crossbow won't get you far, you need an auto crossbow with bolt marrow or a super crossbow with trigger fingers. and anyway you can die in one hit from a ton of shit too, it's not like the game is piss easy
why did I type that all out
>>333388192
This isn't a roguelike, but there's a definite treand towards roguelites at the moment.
I don't think they're especially easy for devs, there's still a lot of work involved even if there is less of a requirement to create a lot of assets.
>precision shooter
>it's not precise unless you have certain items
>also you can get hit by really fast bullets from offscreen
>>333387407
>WWI was more than 100 years ago
>WWII was 80 years ago
>We are closer to 2050 than we are to the moon landings
>We are closer to 2050 than we are to 1980
>indie pixel roguelike
>>333388187
huh, I guess dauphong's is IGG as well.
still, I've almost never had a problem downloading the shit dauphong puts up
he's a god among men
Would it run on a 2.1 ghz craptop?
>>333388417
>really fast bullets
The fastest bullets in this game are from the snipers and they telegraph their attacks for a long time.
>>333386284
>You can get it for 6 dollars
where?
>>333388417
>precision shooter
who said this?
>>333388417
>>also you can get hit by really fast bullets from offscreen
I really hate when it spawns enemies in a big room and they agro before you can even see them
1 key and a regular and a blue chest. Which should I open?
>>333388390
because he made a stupid and uninformed post and you felt the need to correct it.
>>333388597
probably, my prebuilt toaster from 2006 with an runs it barely on lowest settings
certainly you're not getting above 30 fps however
>>333388717
Blue
It's a less interesting Isaac.
I hate reloading and the fact that guns have limited ammo. Having to do the 4th floor with your default gun cause you're out of ammo is not fun at all.
>>333384017
>30ms
>0.03 sec
>implying you have such reaction
You might have reaction of 150-200ms but not better, faggot.
>>333388732
Please don't reply to yourself.
I hate to say it as I like Nuclear Throne a lot but of the two this game is better designed. Nuclear Throne has a lot of situations where you lose due to bad luck. This is due to the decision of fielding a lot of enemies with simple bullet patterns which sometimes results in a solid bullet curtain you have no way to get around without taking damage. Gungeon uses few enemies with complicated bullet patterns, gives you dodge rolls with i-frames and field-clearing bombs for emergencies.
Nuclear Throne still has the superior game feel and I greatly prefer the aesthetic - Gungeon is kind of ugly - but Gungeon is undeniably the better game. Certainly better than anything else in the bullet hell roguelite genre. Light years ahead of shit like Issac.
>>333388787
Thank ye kindly.
>>333385243
That's not a Shill then. That's just a fanboy.
>>333382197
no, pacing is horrible.
>>333388841
fuck off nigger that's not me
>>333388841
please don't make stupid uninformed posts
>1 white man
>1 white woman
>1 black man
>1 black woman
I want more black men for my shooters
>>333388201
Gungeon is much less fast-paced, but has more ornate bullet patterns
Nuclear Throne is also way more punishing in terms of ammo conservation and enemy damage
>>333388838
You're an order of magnitude off there my friend, no wonder your reflexes aren't too hot.
Also, 30ms for your only friend's upline connection is a really generous estimate.
>>333388863
>what are melee weapons?
>>333388390
Im over 100 hours in but the ps4 version is broken. Cant use skins. Almos no point in playing anymore. I love it though. Probably sop after looping with every char.
>>333388863
also
>>333387450
I 100% agree that the guns feel lousy. I'm seriously starting to think Nuclear Throne is a badly-designed game carried by AMAZING animation/music/sound design/camera work.
>>333388078
I do it all the time to trigger autists.
>>333388996
Is hunter black?
She looks more ambiguous
>>333388863
>Nuclear Throne has a lot of situations where you lose due to bad luck.
no
you're doing it wrong if you turn nuclear throne into a bullet hell, unless you take crown of blood and then you know what you're getting into
>>333382197
It's published by Devolver, so I would presume so. Most of their games are great tier.
>>333388657
I do. It's a shooter where you need precision to kill the enemies before they overwhelm you. It's not that fucking hard to understand. But if you are really going to defend le epic "imprecise bullets are more fun xD" system, which by the way it's even worse when combined with a fucking reload system, just kill yourself.
>>333385902
This fuccboi speaks the truth
>>333389027
1) You are never guaranteed to find a good melee weapon by the time you need one.
2) There are some curtains through which you cannot swing fast enough.
3) Eventually you run into so many bullets and a bad spawn that you lose because you rolled badly.
Gungeon can always be beaten by a skilled enough player. Luck is just a slight modifier. The game never sticks you in a situation you cannot solve with the starter gun and some dodge rolls. Nuclear Throne also has a lot of skill involved but you will run into situations where you failed your save VS RNG and that's that.
>>333389161
I use chicken and just rape nonstop.
>60 fps
>widescreen resolution
How I missed you
Also the fact that it doesn't crash at start
>>333387407
what was so good about 1990?
Genuinely surprised it wasn't a ps+ game
>>333385902
be careful not to break your wrist jerking it to your own opinions
>>333389161
First of all there is always a small chance to spawn into an unwinnable situation. Secondly the longer you loop the more likely you are to run into such a situation. An infinite game based on score should never end because the player was unlucky. See my other post on the subject.
>>333389290
>Gungeon can always be beaten by a skilled enough player.
The game hasn't been out for two days, how the fuck do you know?
>>333382197
It's mediocre at best, honestly if you've played Binding of Issac you have pretty much played this except this is a lot easier.
>>333389290
you're not meant to beat nuclear throne. it's literally designed to see how much you can endure until you break or slip up.
sitting on the throne and the IDPD headquarters were mistakes.
>>333389439
Because he's skilled?
>>333389450
Isaac was braindead, though.
>>333389450
Isaac is piss easy compared to EtG what the fuck are you on?
>>333389439
You have all the tools that you need to do so. All bullet patterns can be dodged through. You don't need any special items to win - any items just make winning easier.
I'd give it 6,5~7/10. Solid enough to keep me busy untill ds3 release.
I can see myself playing it from time to time. I just wish I could play with that faggot purple coop mage.
>Bullet hell elitist shitposters
>Nuclear Throne shitposters
>Isaac shitposters
>General 'indieshit/pixelshit' shitposters
>Jack of all trades shitposters
This has literally 0% chance of good discussion on /v/.
It's a perfect storm of autism and hurt feelings.
>>333389450
>except this is a lot easier
(You)
>>333389450
>except this is a lot easier.
>>333389430
The bad thing about looping is that if RNG doesn't bless you, you're shit out of luck immediately.
>>333389290
other anon here how do I get good at this game? I keep rolling into bullets every 20th or so time and even the one run where I had 7 fucking lives and 2 shields I still died to one of the bullshit mobs in stage 4. Also why is the dark ball boss so OP? At first I thought Medusa is bad but she only killed me once so far but I never managed to beat that shadow orb yet, even the tank and other stuff is a joke compared to it. My problem is that I know what to do but I never played touhou or anything like that past ancient stuff like contra/gradius and I was never even great at those either. I think I am just lacking muscle memory but its pissing me off that I cannot git gud. Already went from dying in first stage to clearing first 2 stages with full life but thats not nearly enough apparently. /rant
>>333383992
Marine
THE SCRAMBLER
Slow time, I forget the name
Snek
>>333389251
>It's a shooter where you need precision to kill the enemies
>point analogue stick vaguely in their direction
>mash R1
>get kills
>precision
???
>>333389450
>if you've played Binding of Issac you have pretty much played this
Except after 250 hours of Isaac I'm completely burnt out on it and want something different. You realize it's okay to like more than 1 game in the same genre?
>>333389290
It is entirely possible to run through the game with just a wrench and a gun for dealing damage. Keep the wrench out for the most part, only swap to the other gun for killing things quickly, or enemies with large health pools. (Crystals., robot walkers bosses etc.)
You're practically guaranteed to find a wrench before 2-1 with how often it drops from enemies and can be found in chests. You could also farm until you get the gold wrench, which eliminates the need to get lucky anyways. As for "not being able to swing fast enough", you just need the get rid of the bullets you can't avoid. If all else fails you could just use crystal. And of course you'll die eventually in nuclear throne, that's kind of the idea behind looping endlessly.
tl;dr luck can be circumvented through skill and planning. Git gud.
>>333389515
And that's fine as long as -you- break or slip. What's not okay is the game generating a level you have no chance to beat because you never got a fast melee weapon, Hammerhead, and are out of cover in front of a bullet pattern which you cannot dodge.
>>333389450
Nigga, the difficulty ramps up in floor 4 and 5.
>>333382197
>revolutionary one of a kind that changes everything Indie game of the month
>>333387584
> It's the player's fault the graphics/sound suck because he's not WINNING HARD ENOUGH
How many years do you have to be thirteen years old in order to come up with asinine bullshit like this?
>>333384871
They're in the special thanks in the credits.
Beat the game can confirm.
I like Binding of Isaac
I like Nuclear Throne
I like touhouI like Enter the Gungeon
its pretty much a faster binding of isaac, wouldn't buy at full price
would give it 8/10 pretty fun, can get it for $6.50 on nuuvem, its not region locked, have to vpn to buy it though
>>333383227
I just found out about all the SJW bullshit they shoehorned in near the end of the game...... fuck......I guess I gotta boycott it
Is there a trick to finding secret rooms?
>>333389757
>the difficulty ramps up in floor 4 and 5.
>mfw I'm still having trouble consistently making it past floor 2
>>333382197
Bad:
Weapon progression is a power creep, most weapons are just +1 reskins. Very little variety compared with Nuclear Throne where a shotgun type weapon has several different variants alone.
First floor is a ten-minute chore at the very least, you reload constantly, your clip has minuscule capacity and even homing bombs tank your bullets. Bosses are simplistic and tedious, dodgeroll is overpowered and you can circlestrafe most of their attacks anyway.
Pixelshit even for pixelshit standards.
Reddit gold tier writing.
Horrible boss design, lazy bullet patterns. Makes Nicalis people look like they know what they're doing.
Overall, the game is dead on arrival because no one is going to play a roguelike where you have to endure shit gameplay until the harder parts start. You will always be underpowered and forced to go through the motions until trivial combat goes away and you have your +1 weapon type. Zero pacing, good example would be how Isaac is often blamed for it when you don't get good damage, but at least you can get lucky with a yellow room.
Good:
Map warp; needs to be patched into Isaac.
>>333389717
You are -almost- correct. Nuclear Throne is 95% skill 5% luck. The better you are the more bad situations you can claw your way out of. There are, however, situations which you have no way to deal with due to extremely bad dice rolls. Gungeon is a lot more careful about how it deploys enemies. A few enemies are still a threat because they can shoot out elaborate patterns but because there are only a few you are basically guaranteed to have a way to dodge through their attacks. JW's design does not guarantee this because he relies on placing a lot of enemies almost blindly.
Dieing eventually is fine if it is because you can't keep up with the enemies. It is not fine if you die eventually because the game rolls a dice every level and you eventually roll a 1.
I kinda feel cheated since the Crossbow is pretty much the best gun for most shit. Like getting a new gun doesn't really change anything, most of the time.
>>333389621
Oh no, the thread is not a hugbox!
Buy it on Steam plox here's a code to take 20% off just write reddit intern when prompted
>>333390207
>this shitty pasta again
How much is vlambeer paying you
>>333390318
I hate NT.
>15 minutes of going through the motions
>get a bad spawn and get one shotted
Doesn't mean that Gungeon isn't a shit game.
>>333390079
Just make sure you are using your oh shit bombs which clears the entire room and stuns enemies.
>>333390439
0/10
>>333382421
Factorio is the highest rated steam game is pretty fucking fatastic
>>333389697
>You realize it's okay to like more than 1 game in the same genre?
>>333390519
-1/10
>>333390482
>face boss
>use up 4 of them
>still die
ok
>>333390318
Vlambeer is garbage. Fix the ps4 version you cuck faggots
I love indie pixel shit. Maybe should give this a try
I never play games like this. What happens if I quit? Does it save? I'm on floor2_and I don't want to lose my hard earned progress.
>>333382272
try get some real friends... try GayCupid.com
>>333390584
How new do you have to be to not get the most simple stuff? fucking kek.
>>333390631
Have you considered going to a doctor for treatment for your fagitus?
>>333390547
>Factorio is the highest rated steam game
Really?
I know it had a good following before it hit Steam, but that's suprising.
>>333390607
>caring about the ps4 version
>>333390635
you start over at the very beginning and you will keep your intergalactic credits and if you freed anyone with a golden key that will also transfer, otherwise nothing afaik.
>>333390694
There is no treatment for having fun :^)
>>333390591
Try to roll and abuse the iframes.or use good weapons to kill the bosses
>>333389091
She looks navajo
>>333390772
There's no cure for AIDs either, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore the problem.
>>333390771
What the fuck. So unless I can play undisturbed all day this game is a waste of time?
>>333390847
>having fun is a problem
Only on /v/
>>333390679
-2/10
>>333386294
It happens to be a wheel with a pressurised rubber tire around it.
>>333390215
>There are, however, situations which you have no way to deal with due to extremely bad dice roll
Initial spawns come to mind. Especially in 5-3, 7-1 and 7-2
>get to 5-2
>golden snow tank right besides spawn, another two in some other part of the level
>get to 5-3
>spawn is a small corridor leading to an area with a golden snow tank and a shitton of other enemies
>get to 7-2
>four dog guardians right off the bat
That said, the energy sword isn't one of my favourite weapons in NT because of nothing.
>>333390797
That is what I am doing, actually both, I still die at stage 4 or sometimes even earlier.
>>333390862
It took me 30 mins to get to stage 4 and it has only 5 stages or something like that, do not want to spoil. ;)
>>333388863
Ah, let me note another thing in favor of Nuclear Throne: game length. 1 hour is too long for a single play session. Research points out that focus lapses after around 45 minutes and people tend to prefer play sessions which last around half an hour. You can elongate this period by putting in periods in which the player does not need to focus - this is why RPGs can be played for many hours; a lot of the time is spent mindlessly wandering.
Nuclear Throne's 20-30 minute play session length is a perfect fit for the format.
>>333390875
It is anon, when a dope fiend has fun, it leads to them destroying their life. It's the same for people like you who suffer from chronic fagitus.
>>333390727
Well it did a week ago when i checked steam. Obviously its proportional and a niche game will always score higher than others but yeah, highest rating and deserves it.
>>333390914
I don't know why but I always find myself using explosive weapons in NT. There's just something about huge explosions and splash damage that makes my dick hard.and then panicfiring at the asshole right next to me and killing myself because I never rolled boiling veins always kills it.
>>333388475
Crysis is now right in the middle between Half Life release and the present day.
>>333391007
You are painfully unfunny.
>>333391134
That's just your disease talking anon. That pain means the treatment is working
>>333390914
Yeah, I hear you. I'm actually a huge fan of everyone at Vlambeer. I just feel design is the weak link.
In general every post-loop run tends to converge to auto crossbow plus energy sword.
>overwhelmingly positive steam reviews and high reviews from critics
I already knew what /v/'s thoughts on the game was before asking.
Hipsters.
>>333385607
Solid Tier
> Marine
Starts with a shotgun tier
> Convict
---- POWERGAP ----
RNG Bullshit tier
> Hunter
> Pilot
>>333391264
Opinion seems pretty evenly divided, it's cute that you've found a way to feel superior about our opinions though.
>>333388541
>3D whatever with more thought put into graphics/story/sound than gameplay and that take 5 terabytes of hdd space for 2 hours of bland gameplay
I'll take the indie crap over that crap any day
>>333391379
Hunter gets a doge tho
>that cute yellow game icon
>would fit really well as a emoticon
>check store page
>no trading cards
smallest of things keeping me away from buying this
>>333391435
I don't get why everyone are always so mean to that man. He seems nice.
>>333391379
Where does cultist fit in on this?
How's Nuclear Throne?
>>333391437
Doggo looks like a fucking hamster and it's shit at finding items. The most it got me was a half-heart when I was full.
>>333391552
Made this for starting characters, no clue about the rest, since I didn't unlock them.
>>333391523
literally who? Do not answer this question, I don't even wanna know. Seriously do not.
>>333382272
>Couldn't tell you. They didn't implement online multiplayer.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DID NOT???? Nuclear Throne didn't have it and so did not NeuroVoider? I would think another meme twin-stick shooter indie game would overshadow NT with online capabilities.. Guess not?
>>333391552
My cultist vanished (was not there) when I opened the game today for the 2nd time, any idea where the fuck he went?
>>333391605
It's good, but crude.
>>333391620
Then why bother replying to the post? Attention?
>>333391620
You're trying awfully hard right now.
>>333391605
fun as fuck, but you're gonna have to invest some time in it before you really get anywhere.
>>333391523
It's a prank bro
>>333382780
this
i played it for 5 hours and i can confirm - game will die in a month.
it's nowhere near as good or addictive as Isaac, on which I spent 600 hours and still palying daily runs after I got 100% in it.
>>333391674
>????
Please kill yourself.
>>333391262
I like the splinter and seeker guns, mostly because the splinters can have some retarded high amount of damage for ammo spent especially with bolt marrow, even more if you also have eagle eyes, and seekers also have some pretty good damage on top of letting you not have to expose yourself as much.
Practicality and survivability aside, the flak cannon is my actual favourite weapon.
>>333391048
I like the blood launcher and cannon for this reason alone. Also because they destroy projectiles.
>>333391806
Honest question: what's good about Issac? It looks unbelievably slow to me.
I seriously fucking hate the stupidly redundant reloading mechanics. But that's probably because I'm too used to NT.
>>333391740
>>333391772
To express that e celeb cancer is not vidya, are you fucking dense? Nobody gives a shit about some random faggot, stick to the topic you twats.
>>333390631
played dungeon of the endless yet?
>>333392067
not him but NT=Gungeon>shit>Isaac>Dungeon of endless dota
>>333391867
They're nowhere near as fun to shoot tho. I got a golden bazooka drop on YV back in January and I've got it on everyone now, there's also something about the sticky launcher that always prompts me to pick it up as well.
Funnily enough my best runs usually involve me not getting Boiling Veins, since I usually play super cautious and won't just rely on explosives for everything. It's stressful as fuck tho.
>>333391867
Those are fun until you are stuck in a tight corridor. My actual favorite weapon is probably the double minigun. I just like shooting dakka really fast. Too bad it doesn't hold up later in the game.
>>333391903
>isaac
>slow
Isaac is incredibly good balanced, it has a shitton of content. It is really skill-based game.
EtG is just lick based game with a bunch of shitty guns and no synergies.
>>333391903
The item combinations can be fun, there's all sorts of interactions between them and it can end up making you brutally OP if you get lucky.
Other than that it's the slow twin-stick shooter it appears to be.
>>333391903
Not him but while I personally love the game, I can point out more cons than pros.
Sheer RNG and unbalanced items are the big ones. With an item like Soy Milk or a pill like Health Down, you can make or break a run with one simple action. Gungeon and Throne balance almost all weapons and items, so they're more of a test of skill.
The good thing about Isaac is that it's getting mod support soon, so people can fix everything wrong with the game.
>there is an achievement/trophy for killing 5 bosses with no damage in 1 run
>The demon wall on floor 4
>the dragun
Impossible.
>>333392230
>Isaac is incredibly good balanced
Isaac fanboys everyone.
>>333392273
Git gud
>>333392039
You're trying awfully hard right now.
>>333392239
Isaac is slow only if you playing it slow.
Just try to beat Hush on each playthrough and it will be almost as fast as Sanic each and every time.
>>333392230
It is also incredibly slow. Moves at the pace of a drunk snail with bullet time turned on.
Is there a non-broken version of the game to download?
>>333392239
>>333392259
Thanks.
>>333392273
>Impossible.
Anything is possible anon. YOU CAN DO IT.
>>333392391
Except for the fact that your tears do very little damage at the start of the game, and it's entirely possible to get unlucky and do even less than the default, making killing things very slow.
Just because it's possible to be fast doesn't mean the game is inherently fast, Isaac is very slow paced at it's core.
>>333382197
>bullet hell shooter
>capped at 30 fps
But why.
>>333392359
When I grow up I want to be that cat. Also a girl with a bad personality.
>>333392389
>state truth, backed up by logic
>hurr durr you try
ok bud.
So how is this compared to teleglitch, the last indie shit game like this /v/ convinced me to buy.
>>333386352
>>333389395
>le im le edgy 4channer face
Kill yourselves, please.
>>333392505
Yeah, it's 13 bucks.
>>333382272
Jesus you little youtube generation faggot. Get some real friends or play alone.
>>333392586
Wasn't that kinda mediocre at best? I like this one but I didn't like teleglitch, take this however you want.
>>333392585
You're trying awfully hard right now.
>>333392186
That's the reason why I avoid using two spread weapons at the same time. Lightning guns would also be pretty top tier if they didn't like to get the bolts stuck in walls.
And yeah, too bad that going all the dakka is nonviable, even as Steroids with the necessary mutations because playing safe trumps suppressive fire.
I swear I do riskier players when as Steroids, like going to the throne with dual nuke launchersand winning, I wasn't going for loop
>>333392572
This isn't NT, anon.
This game can run at 60fps, but I don't think it has the level of optimization Rebirth does.
>>333392586
Slower, bigger pixels, more guns.
>>333392697
>broken record
I see another 12 year old, you sure showed me there little fella, here have a cookie. :)
>>333392761
K' then
>feed two huge motherfucker guns to the gun eating chest
>get literally the pea shooter
>X effect when damaged
>>333392906
I fed it an amor bow and a 38 special and got a regular bow, kek.
Protip, you can drop weapons and active items on the grate in the shop and you will get loads of money
I fucking swear the soundtrack is missing songs
>NL finally replaced isaacshit with this
>mfw Molotov Gun
>>333393629
too bad he's trash at the game.
Hopefully he'll get better soon.
I've never played these types of games before but they look really fun
out of Gungeon, Nuclear Throne, and Binding of Issac, which is best for a first timer?
>>333393823
From hardest to easiest
NT > Gungeon > Isaac
>>333393823
BOI
>>333393823
isaac
>>333393912
In what world is NT harder than gungeon??
>>333393823
>>333393912
>>333393931
>>333393943
I believe you have your consensus.
>>333393823
Pirate them all and see which you like best, it's REALLY subjective.
>>333394015
NT doesn't have win condition.
>>333393823
Isaac > Risk of rain >> Nuclear Throne >>>>>>>> EtG
>>333394098
It actually does, two of them.
You can either sit on the Throne of beat the HQ.
>sluggis as fuck "bullet hell"
I already have nuclear throne so fuck right off with your shitty flavor of the month "devildaggers 2"
>>333394015
How many times have you looped anon?
>>333394110
madness.
>>333385243
At least on steam I'd say that there are even more people who love to complain about anything. They'll be controversial games like sfv just so they can leave an angry message.
>>333394015
Epic shitpost right here
>>333391379
>pick Pilot
>lockpick works every time
Is convict dyke
>>333394110
RoR is fucking shit, bro.
>>333382267
This indie games are cancer.
>>333394015
Because unless you "finish" the game
The game just keeps going until it goes kill-screen on you
how the gunplay compared to Nuclear Throne? I loved that game, but hated the combat in Binding of Isaac which people are also comparing this to.
>>333389017
You are so full of shit my god.
>>333394637
Yes, but she'd consider switching teams for you.
^__^
>>333394676
kill you are self
>>333394770
>^__^
>>333382398
I've never seen anyone on /v/ claim that they have great taste.
It's always either shills or insane shitposters that hate every game no matter what.
>>333391007
Just fuck off already holy shit, speak about shitposting faggots.
>>333394015
Nuclear Throne is a difficult game and it is definitely harder than gungeon.
How far have you made it in NT? How often do you loop? Have you made it past loop 1 ever? Defeated the captain even?
>>333394718
Hardly will anything ever beat crossbow in nuclear throne, and thi game's crossbow is slow and unsatisfying
>>333394676
0/10, you are shit.
>>333394767
And you're an idiot if you can't figure out why these sorts of games don't have online multiplayer.
What's the lil'hunter of gungeon?
>>333394869
The crossbow is like 5% slower in this. The real problem is it doesn't do a lot of damage but if you get passives it can be better than the one in nuclear throne.
>struggle to get past chamber 4
>suddenly find this gun and it fucking carries me to chamber 6
don't even have to use a lot of ammo, just shoot once and reflect everything back with the fucklong reload
>>333382197
>pkeks don't have any other games but indies to rate
lel
>>333382197
gog version is up on torrents so I'm about to find out ;)
>>333394951
That fucking tank. Way harder than any other boss in the game for no reason.
can't even get past 1st floor. should i kill myself?
>>333395069
Try the black orb boss, the tank is fucking easy mode compared to that. You just have to round around hiding behind pillars with the tank.
>>333395215
The tank blows the pillars up and then spawns enemies. Orb boss is a lot easier in my opinion.
>>333395127
Learn to roll when bullets come close, and use blanks at last resort.
This game's kicking my ass too, particularly the snake boss. Shit's gonna be hell when I reach the floor 3 boss.
>>333395127
try again. I was the same as you went to floor 4 3 times now after 1 day. Still cannot get past it, this shit is hard for me.
>>333395348
There is more pillars than you need though and the enemies are weak, albeit with good aim. IF you have a just decent weapon he dies with 1-3 pillars left. His patterns are easy though, teach me about the orb please.
I just realized that the machinegun boss on Floor 1 is one giant homage to MGS1's Vulcan Raven.
What a memegame.
>>333395524
did he have rockets and birds that surround him when he dies? The last time that i played mgs 1 was when it was released.
>>333395038
Wow seems overpowered?
>nyan cat gun
>>333382783
>nuke is the thing you sit down and play when you want to shoot the SHIT OUT OF EVERYTHING HUGE GUTS RIP AND TEAR
Now i'm interested.
>>333395649
it's called a reference
why is everything "memes" to you millennials
>>333395494
I only fought the other boss a couple of times so I can't really comment on how to beat him since I get the tank all the time and have only killed that fucker twice
>>333395649
there is 4 U in the fucking intro screen when you pick your char and DO NOT BELIEVE HIS LIES. you had to play a lot longer to get there, so how did you miss these?
>>333395649
There's another MGS reference I believe with a boss battle with that one scarecrow bullet dude thingy.
>>333382272
The local co-op is shit anyway. The second player can't choose their own character, starting with an awful one every time.
it's extremely polished visually but it's boring as fuck
didn't hook me like binding of isaac
>>333395781
>you millennials
Are you seriously pretending to be >35 on /v/?
>>333395781
you are right but how old are you`? other anon here btw.
>>333395868
First level is always way too fucking boring. Wait until the next level finally things get interesting
>>333395942
It's true anon. >>333395781
guy is actually right. the word for it gets misused all the time it's just a silly nod/reference to another video game franchise.
>>333396051
This is correct but how likely is it that the other guy isn't a millenial himself=misusing another word=irony.
>>333392856
You're trying awfully hard right now.
>>333396051
I didn't say he was wrong, I said he's an idiot millenial who thinks he's above us.
Any new games like FTL?
>>333395970
This.
And you can unlock a shortcut to lower levels so that makes it good.
>>333396180
Did you somehow avoid FTL2 entirely or something?
>Played bout 30 mins
>Realized this was gonna be the rest of the game
>dodge
>shoot
Refunded
>>333396180
just shit ones afaik.
>>333396354
AYYY LMAO. Get a better attention span you ADHD-American.
I found this room with a giant lock and a girl with a big robot looking thing locked inside, what do I need to do to get them out? Hope that a big key drops on that floor?
>>333396157
Wow.
I went from "I agree with this anon" and now I think you're a fucking idiot. I hate Millenials as much as the next guy here but for christ sakes don't be a fucking retard.
>>333396325
Actually yes, will it be released this year?
>>333396354
>That gif
>>>/facebook/
>200+ guns
isn't that little too many? I mean there will be too many useless guns
Might worth pirating and doing one run until I die and then quit because I don't feel like going through the same fucking area again and again. On second though it fucking isn't. Roguelikes are cancer.
>>333396452
Explore the whole floor, one of the stronger enemies should drop a big yellow key.
The boss sometimes drops that key too.
>>333396354
>play 30 mins of cod
>realize the rest of the game is the same
>play 30 mins of witcher 3
>realize the game is the same for the rest of it
>play 30 mins of Deus Ex or literally any good or bad game that exists
if you break it down to make it sound shitty like that anything will sound repetetive. Your homework is to figure out the word associated with this type of logical fallacy, now go home kid. :)
>>333394846
>Getting angry at a post from an hour ago
>>333396452
pretty much, I wasable to unlock mine but I have no idea what she does.
>>333395349
>>333395494
thanks lads i'll just keep trying, having fun either way
anyone know what the room with fireplace is for?
>>333396601
your spell is retarded but i agree with you anon.
>>333396505
>I hate Millenials as much as the next guy here
We're not all self-hating sad-sacks Anon.
How is it different from Nuclear Throne? Looks like a ripoff of it and Isaac.
>>333396567
I have found only 1 useless gun so far out of like 60. Most were fairly unique except that there is 2 almost same cryo guns. I think there is actually almost 300 guns not just 200+.
How do I lockpick? Only worked once
>>333396689
Much slower, better puns, less satisfying weapons, more polish.
>>333396650
Do you mean grammar (which would maybe even make sense here) or spelling, I honestly do not know which you mean with this retarded spelling.
>>333396710
It has a set chance to work or not. Only use it if you beat a floor and end up with no keys.
Can't believe this shit didn't launch with a leaderboard, online co-op or daily runs, why the fuck are indie devs so lazy
>>333396816
>repetetive.
your retarded??????
>>333396423
>>333396423
>He doesn't like repetitive mundane games! He must be an american!
You must be a europoor or live in a third country.
>>333396829
>No Leaderboards
>No Daily Runs
Wait, fucking serious?! When will they implement at least leaderboards?
>>333396816
I have made a huge mistake. Now I can't open any other chest.
>>333396601
The game adds nothing new. Atleast those games give you something through out. Fucking moron
>>333396889
>justifying people who play video games for 30 minutes and request a refund
you're the fucking worst.
>>333396889
all games are inherently repetitive when you play them long enough
>>333396536
Cant find related gif but just stop trying to fit in.
>>333397034
That is wrong and you are fucking retarded. Those games give literally nothing new at all, you clearly have never played them or this one you underage faggot.
>isaac fandom:lousy,edgy bunch of kids
>NT fandom:most of them are cancerous git gud fags
>both fandom latched on this game
>>333397058
Life is inherently repetitive when you live long enough
>>333397261
that's why people turn to drugs :^)
>>333391674
This game does look like Nuclear Throne, but NT is really good. Shame his is already brutally overshadowing it.
>>333397043
>14 shekel shitty indie game
>implying it's worth even 5.
>>333382197
>Steam: Overwhelmingly positive reviews
goatsimulator had also Overwhelmingly positive reviews
>>333397208
More like both are bitching about this game because they don't like that all the boys I'm the schoolyard are talking about the pretty, new girl, Gungeon.
>>333397261
no it isnt't, only if you are a boring person with no friends or hobbies and live in a basement. :)
>>333397464
>I never played the game
>here let me shitpost with memearrows and a cool meme pic
wew lad, nice shitpost. I rate it 5/8
>>333383992
Marine
Sling
Ration
Snake
Should I get both NT and EtG?
>>333382534
We're not all fucked up shut ins anon
>>333387662
Game could use a patch to increase key/heart drops imo. But I highly doubt anyone has unlocked even half the items or know that there are none that increase health.
ProtipBuy heart items in the credit store
>>333397195
>GOTY 2015 rightfully deserved doesn't bring anything new at all.
Wow, it's like you read what you type before you type it. Calm down nerd.
>>333383430
Points for Metal Slug knowledge. Subtracted for not knowing Vulcan Raven. Ya broke even anon.
>>333392230
I used to be a huge Isaac fan and I have to say : your post is full of bullshit.
Balance is basically non-existant in TBoI:R. The difficulty level hovers between easy mode snoozefest and impossible. There's no middle ground and you either oneshot everything with a stupid combo like Tammy's Head+Brimstone or spend an hour trying to kill anything because you've rolled nothing good.
As for skill, it doesn't do anything in this game. It's all about RNG and hoping the game doesn't fuck your shit up. If you're unlucky, you get only bad items and have to go through rooms with broken ass design and unavoidable damage. If you're lucky, you shit on the game. Again, there's no middle ground.
McMillen is a hack and an unprofessional shitty designer who'd rather post memes and pictures of his wife's placenta on dumblr than write a changelog for any of his games. He and Nicalis don't give a fuck anymore and are just going to milk the franchise with DLCs that add nothing but a couple useless characters and items.
>>333389348
where to even begin? although the early 90s were just an extension of the 80s as the early 00s were an extension of the 90s.
>>333397593
No, pirate both and see which you prefer.
Or just get NT if you prefer faster action, and visa versa.
Why are indie faggots the only ones making these TS games? Since they sell several hundred thousand and sometimes a million surely midtier and AAA devs have looked into these games by now right
>>333387662
Hearts are hidden in secret rooms.
>>333397650
GOTY
fuckin kek
Guess what it didn't bring anything new at all to the table indeed. The topic was actually if the game offers something new after playing it for a while compared to itself. But funny enough it doesn't even bring anything new compared to its first few predecessors either, that is how boring and bland and repetetive it is. It is literally just good if you like the story, the combat is boring. Reading the books would have been a better use of anyone's time.
>>333397780
>He and Nicalis don't give a fuck anymore and are just going to milk the franchise with DLCs that add nothing but a couple useless characters and items.
The game will live on through mods hopefully, since their next DLC is supposed to give people easy to use mod tools.
>>333383992
>Pilot
>Light Gun
>Knife Shield
>Bullet Kingshitter wall
>>333398083
>tfw I find the bullet king easier than both of the other first floor bosses
>>333398203
The twins is literal easy mode though, how are they easier than the bullet king
>>333397780
Sure, Issac may be a high-based RNG game but I think that's what makes it so attractive you'll never know what you'll get next. Having balanced gameplay doesn't really make the gameplay exciting at all. Just some nobody who complains about balance is just a whiner.
>>333398320
Agree with this but Bullet King is easy peasy once you autismo the patterns.
>>333398203
bullet king is 100% harder than the other two combined. All are doable but you are simply an odd fella, his patterns are way less predictable.
>>333398358
>Having balanced gameplay doesn't really make the gameplay exciting at all.
Too bad Nicalis and Edmund can't get that through their ego driven heads, I still dont get why shit like dark bum, head of krampus or box of friends needed a nerf.
>>333398358
>Just some nobody who complains about balance is just a whiner.
That sure is a strong argument there, Whiner.
>>333398505
So you wouldn't accidentally have fun using them, duh.
>>333398519
Git gud.
>>333398519
oh noes, how will I sleep now. Oh wait I am not a shill, carry on with telling us how you do not like thing. Come on I even replied to you with a nice (you) and gave you attention, do not be shy now.
>>333398358
More than that, it's the huge ass item combination what makes BoI replayable for thousands of hours.
Actually looking forward to the next DLC and it's inclusion of proper mod support, despite Edmund "$100 steak" McMillan and his temper tantrums and retarded ideas on balance.
>>333394805
>._.
>>333398581
>"Wah! Not fair! I want to have fun! Make it easier for me to have a chance for me to win!"
Pussy. Get good bitchass.
Does anyone know what the something magical is you're supposed to find on floor 1 for the elevator guy after you give him 10 hegemony credits?
>>333398505
To be fair, dark bum was a bit too OP since he gave you a ton of soul hearts and made you virtually invincible.
The stopwatch nerf is what got me. That shit was supposed to be OP from the start with a hard unlock method, but Ed listened to streamers and decided to nerf the purposefully OP item.
>>333398460
The one attack he has that fucks me up is the one shot that splits into a spray, mainly when he layers it on top of other attacks
>>333398719
The challenge in Isaac when the RNG goes against you is whether you've got the patience to hose the enemy down with your pitiful damage output, sorry for not being autistic enough to enjoy that you Whiner.
>>333398497
Low range on pilots default gun made him hard my first few times. Then I learned his patterns and danced in the iron rain.
>>333398738
You have to beat the boss without taking a single hit to receive the Master Round.
>>333398804
Yeah, stopwatch nerf was probably the worst, getting to 999 on your donation machine isn't an easy task, and those faggot streamers don't even play Isaac all that often anymore, so he's catering to people who don't even play the game.
>>333398849
>Not playing games for a challenge
You call yourself a hardcore gamer? Get good faggot.
>>333398948
Right on, thanks
>>333398858
That is what I am doing every time I meet him but with the dual bullets I can just sit at the side of one room and move every now and then and still wreck their shit. The bird is also very straightforward and you have to roll maybe 8-10 times in the whole fight.
>>333382197
it's pretty fun tbqh. all the guns have neat different gimmicks and having a dodge roll allows you to deal with bullet spam easier
>>333399034
>playing Isaac for a challenge
Pfft...
>>333382197
Yes, the game is more perfect than what is physically or logically possible in our universe
Anyone got a mega for this game?
And going out on a limb here, anyone have the Shovel Knight Humble Bundle download link?
>tfw windows only
>>333399114
Gatlin Gull stage with water pits on sides of the room makes that shit pretty hard mane.
Whoa.... So this... Is the power.... Of the master race
>>333398848
Pattern is always the same keep with it anon I'mproud of you
>>333399682
>water pits
I either never had this layout yet or I never strayed far enough into the sides. Is it the one with lots of plants and explosive barrels or another one? got a pic maybe?
What's the reasoning behind not having a Save&Quit option between levels, savescummer proof?
>Just reached Chamber 4 for the first time
>mfw
Holy mother of fuck the difficulty really ramps up
>>333400036
yup, no joke.
>>333397803
Really liked NT but fuck that 30fps cap.
So how is Co-Op? I'm thinking of getting this for the PS4 so me and my friend can play.
>>333400160
Normally 30fps will affect me negatively but I never really had any issues with NT. Once I turned off screen shake I started playing just fine.
>>333399309
>grabs u by ur wallet
BUY THE FUCKING GAME???????????????
>>333399895
No pic but it is a wide strip in the middle then two narrow ones on the sides seperate by pits. Explosive barrels are common as well as tables.
>>333400520
-wallet disappears as I stab you from behind-
It was empty.
>>333400543
heh thats funny. Ive probably beaten him like 8times now and never had that one. rng is crazy.
so are there any tricks to finding secret rooms, or do you just blast random walls and hope you get lucky?
>>333400225
from what I saw 2nd player is restricted to only one of the selectable characters
>>333400520
I don't buy single player games let alone pixelshit.
>>333400625
*its a hologram*
>>333400710
look for cracks i was told. never found any yet
>2D indie pixelfest bullet hell similar to Nuclear Throne
>popular for almost no reason
>3D indie score-focused bullet hell with a tad bit of originality
>nobody gives a shit
And then of course /v/ whines about MUH PIXELSHIT at any given moment.
>>333400693
Yes the amount of times I have had the same boss pattern is frustrating.
>>333400942
what is this? I am getting eye cancer just looking at it for 5 seconds, looks worse than a raid with 60 guys spamming attacks.
>>333400942
pixelshit runs easily on toasters, which is what the majority of /v/ has
>>333400752
>I don't buy single player games let alone pixelshit.
MILLENIALS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
Is Convict a chick? Looks like a fuccboi to me.
Just play this if you wanna dodge bullets and shoot stuff.
>>333401113
the game he posted would run on my gramps PC as well though, just saying.
>>333400942
Played easily 100 hours of Cactus. It was pretty fun but felt barebones. Something kept me playing though probablyAutism
>>333401203
It's a chick with a big stretchy asshole.
>>333401247
that game was boring and shit, extremely repetetive and bland. Even flash games are better, no joke.
>>333401131
>millenials calling others millenials
lol
Seriously though, single player games are rarely worth more than the price of a movie ticket. I might bite on pixelshit for $1, but even then I'd have to consider it.
>>333401356
movies are completly overpriced though and 1 dollar per 1 hour of fun is ok imho. I wouldn't buy this myself because I am not retarded and know how to pirate without begging for a link but still there is some good games which deserve our support. Not saying this is one we all have to buy but I might get it if I have too much money eventually.
>>333401050
Assault android cactus, ironically got ditched from PS+ votes in favour of yet another pixel art game, Broforce.
>>333402134
broforce is not that bad imho, just a slightly worse super time force ultra or however that one was called. I don't even wanna know the autistic shit community behind broforce, talking about the game itself. From the webm and videos cactus doesn't look that good actually but I am downloading it right now to try it out.
>>333396889
What are some games that aren't repetitive? I'd like to know desu
>>333400942
yeah but see gungeon is fun