this shit released today and I didn't find a thread in the catalog
why is it so good brehs
also, how do I unlock the shortcut to the Second floor?
I've met the short elevator guy, talked to him in the Hub and he said to go to the second level's elevator shaft or something, but I can't find him there anywhere
>>333314417
It's a good game. People will call you a shill for wanting to discuss it though.
What does beast mode do?
I have only 7 hours in nuclear throne and never made it to the throne so far because too hard
is this game better?
![p19i1749sn1hs31q991one76nr6h6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XF9pMm6.jpg "p19i1749sn1hs31q991one76nr6h6[1].jpg")
>>333314417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYpSoiNdrZw
Pretty fun so far even if I am shit at it. Best part is I didn't even have to pay for it since the devs have been giving away a shit ton of keys.
Favourite starting character? Convict here, revolver is God tier and molotov is pretty decent too
>>333315287
It's harder than NT because of the bullet hell parts
>>333315465
the Marine, his starting weapon is too stronk to choose anyone else over him + don't need to worry about ammo
>>333314719
>shills will call you a shill for wanting to discuss it though
Fixed that for you.
>>333315465
Pilot because greed.
>>333315287
Much easier, health is less common, you can't get 100-0 quickly like you can in Throne, there's constant progression so you can feel like you did something even if you died early, and there's this item that essentially nukes everything on screen.
Also the dodgeroll in this game isn't complete garbage. You have true invincible frames. I found NT too frustrating as well but I'm having a great time with this.
>>333315293
>giving away a shit ton of keys
Shit really? Where at? I dont wanna pirate since my ISP gets butthurt about torrenting but free is better than not free.
looks fun, too expensive for what is probably some incredibly short """"""""""roguelike"""""""""" that keeps shit through deaths and gives you upgrades as you continue to play, AKA the worst way to stretch out a game's length. i might get it when it's $2 in a steam sale later this year. or when it's on PS+.
it desperately needs online co-op. And they need to be more direct on what the fuck the people you free do.
And at some point i was able to steal from the shopkeep, i've never been able to do it again though.
>>333315465
Honestly, I like everyone except the Pilot, because the Pilot's starting gun fucking sucks and makes him not very fun to play until you get a decent weapon, which can take a good while.
>>333317083
that lockpick tho
![doge_loaf_bloke_by_x5ync-d97fwau[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JmSbK6S.jpg "doge_loaf_bloke_by_x5ync-d97fwau[1].jpg")
>>333315465
Hunter so far. Doggo means I don't end up completely key starved as often, and the crossbow is quite strong for the first 2 chambers.
>>333316648
Cobaltstreak and Richard Hammer have been mararthoning the game for the last few days and have been giving out keys the entire time.
The devs have also been dumping keys in chat after each successful run.
>>33331528
The most damage you can take at a time is one heart, which means no getting randomly instagibbed by one mistake. However the bosses at their hardest are harder than Throne bosses. You also get Shmup-style bombs every floor, although they only clear bullets rather than deal damage.
>>333316345
I was honestly worried that the dodge roll would ruin the game due to being iframes on demand, but it's surprisingly balanced. The end of it is unsafe and being forced to move in a staight line when tons of bullets are coming at you is very dangerous even if 3/4 of it is iframes.
>>333316989
Dev said they're never ever doing online co-op
>And they need to be more direct on what the fuck the people you free do.
No kidding. I found some blue bullet in a cage, and I still haven't found out what he does.
>>333317083
nut up or shut up kid
>>333316894
It offers more gameplay than your average AAA game for 1/4 of the price. Not sure how you can call that short.
>>333317287
are you fucking kidding me? online co-op would be way more fun that local shit, due to no one having any friends.
And I unlocked some edgy faggot and he didn't say anything and didn't even show up on the breach
>>333317151
The lockpick and lower shop prices are nice, sure, but I just don't feel like playing with him much because he's not very fun until the first weapon pickup (assuming said pickup is even halfway decent), unlike all the other characters who have decent starting weapons.
Hunter's probably my favorite as far as starting weapons go - the Crossbow is a fantastic early game weapon, and the rusty revolver is a decent backup for dealing with small trash like the bats or splitting slimes.
>>333317472
>online co-op would be way more fun that local shit
Devs said that they don't have the resources or expertise to implement online co-op, but one of them did hint at it possibly being added if the game ends up being really successful.
>>333317271
>Cobalt
So I had to watch this absolute retard in order to win a key? I'm glad that I bought it normally then.
>>333317457
does it really though? Is there actually gameplay to it? Is it crafted well and not just procedurally generated everything?
>>333317718
yeah Don't Starve said the same thing.
>>333316989
I don't get this. Isaac and Nuclear Throne don't have online coop and people don't complain. I get the feeling people are only talking about this (and the dev brought it on themselves) by putting the occultist right there in the Breach like it's a major feature.
These days people just don't want to do local coop and putting it in will just make them complain about the lack of online coop.
>>333317769
What does "actual gameplay" even mean?
>>333318112
Is there gameplay beyond picking up new guns and adding them to some ever-expanding pool of shit, is what I mean. When you play the game do you ever get anywhere with it or is it just another dungeon crawler with no real end.
>>333318225
>is there gameplay beyond the gameplay I arbitrarily described to suit my bias
So do you have an actual argument?
I hate these spooky little shits
>>333318225
It has gameplay. It has the mechanics of dodge roll, and plain movement allowing one to both scale difficulty and act dynamically. The dodge roll has i frames which allows for risk (hit after i frames) and reward (avoid damage). It has resource management (limited ammo and health. It has scalable difficulty (blanks, roll, and perfecting bosses to get extra hp, altars). It has a variety of enemies with different patterns and effects to give it variety. What do you mean, "Gameplay"? This game has it. Nearly any game has it.
it's been pretty good so far, been on it nonstop since it came out.
still not able to beat level 3 though
>tfw you find a secret passage behind the fireplace
>>333317859
...And they did?
>>333314417
bad:
- simplistic bullet hell
- every enemy has the same mechanic apart from those that charge you so there's whopping two gameplay mechanics total
- overpowered dodge
- minuscule damage you do makes fights drag on forever
- constant reload breaks the pacing further
- western pixelshit art design (goes without saying)
- le quip, le quirk, le reference, le get it?
good:
it shows that binding of isaac needs a patch where you can warp to rooms you already cleared.
>>333318784
perfecting bosses gives you more shit at the end??
sheeeit
How do I git gud at fighting gattling gull? It feels like it's waaaaay too accurate and aggressive with the chasing attack, I can never dodge it well enough to also shoot
>>333314417
>local co-op only
into the trash it goes then
Really fun so far, is anyone else getting a bug where the player character is completely blacked out?
>>333319118
Pick a class other than the Marine.
>>333318910
>zero druids
2/10 see me after the thread
>>333318962
Fight him at long range - this will allow you to weave between most of his bullets without dodging, so you can keep the dodge ready for the moments when regular weaving isn't possible.
This strategy is applicable for all the level 1 bosses.
I really like the pause screen. It's animated too.
Post guns
>>333314669
Drop down the hole after you take the elevator down.
>>333314417
I'm enjoying it
Its a shame I'm so bad at it though, i;ve only made it to level 2 4 times in 3 hours
Favorite character?
>>333319437
the fish in a barrel gun I love how the fish stay on the ground and flop around
>>333317754
I seriously fucking hate Cobalt. He's unfunny. He's dumb. Andhe ruins the NLSS.
>>333319328
It reminds me a lot of another one of DD's games, Downwell.
>>333315287
Best NT player here.
I've cleared my first pl of gungeon and I can safely say that it is easier by far if you compare end game content.
That does not mean that EtG is an easy game. But it will require a lot of practice until you nail down all the patterns.
What I like the most about this game is that there are no items or weapons that can carry the whole run to the point of trivializing it.
Torrented it and having fun so far. I like having a dodge roll and there's a ton of environment interaction which is pretty cool.
>>333319183
I have and everything is still blacked out.
>>333315465
Hunter
Crossbow and the Revolver are a really nice combo from the start
Dog is only helpful when I dont need it though
>>333319785it was a black joke because the marine has dark skin
>>333319437
>>333319667
Nick does too.
Just needs josh and malf.
>>333319667
Cobalt is on NLSS now? Damn
>>333318898
Yes. That's what Don't starve TOGETHER is. Also they are being published by devolver, can't they hook them up with some devs with online expertise?
Abuse your publisher for a bit, I'm sure they'd be thrilled to help them add a new feature to the game that would increase the number of people willing to buy it.
>>333319437
mix this with the scattershot item and scare the shit out of everybody
>>333319437
What's the deal with the mirror room?
>>333314417
>enemies are all bullet sponges
i want to like it but this is just so annoying
>Really enjoying the game so far
>Goofy faces on the characters bothers me to no end
I am constantly motivated to not get hit as The Marine so I don't have to see that silly
._.
face.
>>333319437
The bullets ricochet, and you spin the gun to reload it.
>>333322013
>Goofy faces on the characters bothers me to no end
say that to my ._. faggot not online and see what happens
>>333319437
B U L L E T
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>>333322480
I absolutely don't mind it on the enemies, just bothers me on the playable dudes.
Similar thing bothered me with Risk of Rain, with all the pretty neato looking enemies but the tiny, weenie character sprites.
The character animations could've been done better
>Character just sits completely still, gun in one hand shooting with an hollow look in his face.
>All that moves is his hand.
>>333319687
Haven't played NT in a long time, what weapons totally broke the game in NT?
I love the idea of this game, it was one of the few during e3 that actually looked good.
game is fun but the music sucks dick
It's so fucking good but really hard
Still haven't made it passed the second boss
>>333320062
I really, really like this gun
>>333315465
Hunter. Crossbow is 2gud.
Anyone else find this too hard or do I just need togit gud?
It's too slow for my liking.
>>333319667
reminder that cobalt turned 30 this year
what a fucking loser
>>333318910
there are guns you never have to reload. got an mg with 1250 rounds no reloading
I've played it for a few hours and my main problem with it so far is that the boss difficulty isn't consistent at all. Everything else is pretty nice.
>GatlingGull
>+1 max hp
>BulletKing
>Quick restart
Anyone else find the disparity in difficulty of bosses utter bullshit?
>>333323147
git gud. you'll get better and sometimes it only has to do with the luck of the chests.
anyone having crashing issues after you die?
>>333318910
>trying this hard to find something to dislike in a game
l o l
o
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>>333318784
sounds good then.
>>333318482
no, is there anything to separate from the gorillion other dungeon crawler """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""roguelikes"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" out on the market, apparently there is.
Small question, but are all the items one-time-uses, or are they rechargable like in Binding of Isaac?
>>333323391
>BulletKing hard
Wew.
But I do agree that Gull is way too easy.
>>333323474
Yes there is.
so nuclear throne is now obsolete?
Good thing I didn't fall for that meme and waited for this to come out
>>333323694
Nuclear Throne is still better
This game is amazing. I just got it. The animation quality is top tier.
PSA: GMG has a 20% off coupon which brings the price down by 3 bucks.
>>333315465
Only one I don't use is the Hunter. I tried her twice, that shitty gun and slow as fuck crossbow and worthless dog are no good. Pilot's starting weapon is pretty shitty, but I've been getting pretty lucky with the lockpick getting me into chests for a new weapon early on.
>can't play with the cultist on singleplayer
why?
>>333318910
I don't really agree with most of your points, but I've been thinking of this too.
>- minuscule damage you do makes fights drag on forever
Most of the bosses have shitloads of HP, which becomes even worse if you don't happen to find a gun in the first floor.
It kind of feels like I'm constantly playing Isaac on hard-mode, with tanky enemies and game giving very few drops.
>>333323391
Bullet King is pretty much the most predictable of the first level bosses once you learn his patterns. Trigger Twins is probably the most annoying. Trying to stay as far away as possible while still dealing damage works for all the first level bosses though.
>>333323491
It's very hard compared to the twins and Gatlinggull. If you don't get a decent weapon he can shrek your shit
>>333318910
>I hate fun, the post
Is grinding for shortcuts worth it, I mean, do they give you anything aside from starting on a different floor? Seems quite silly if they don't give you anything else, you are better off being on the second floor after the first floor (because you can pick up guns, health, consumables) rather than starting on it.
>>333319118
PC MASTER RACE
>>333318910
>every enemy has the same mechanic apart from those that charge you so there's whopping two gameplay mechanics total
not sure I know what you mean by mechanic because Lead Maiden, Bullet Shark, and Mimic alone seem to already directly contradict your statement... did you make it past the first floor?
>>333323753
>30fps throne
>better
If I enjoyed Binding of Isaac, will I enjoy this
>>333323991
i fougth the trigger twins earlier and one of them just froze. He didn't shoot or anything
>>333324206
likely
>>333324037Unlocking second level shortcut doesn't give you anything special, but you get free weapons from level 3 shortcut onwards (eg. if you jump to level 3, you get one free weapon, 2 by jumping to level 4, 3 by jumping to level 5)
>>333324206
Quite possibly. The main difference is that this game shoves a lot more bullets onscreen than isaac does much more quickly, but you get dodge roll with iframes and screen clears to compensate.
>>333324262
>>333324376
Alright, thanks for the info
>>333324206
probably depending on how you feel about the light bullet hell Gungeon has
Does armor allow you to perfect a boss even if you get hit? Like in Isaac with spirit hearts?
oh, I saw this game back when I played a shitload of NTand only beat it once, thanks for telling me this is out, /v/.
The art style is pretty ugly though.
>>333324520
Nope, you're just not allowed to take any hits at all
>>333323491
Gull kills me every time. I'm terrible.
Are there plans for the game to be on more platforms? I like how indie shit on PSN gives you crossbuy for PS4 and vita. I like playing indie shit on my vita so I'm hoping a vita version happens.
>>333324370
Thanks, worth getting it then I guess.
>>333324520
you will fail the bonus if you take any damage including armor
>>333324734
Keep distance so he's easier to dodge.
i made a shitposting image for you guys
>>333324009
He is harder than the other two but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Variable difficulty level is one of the cornerstones of procedural content.
>>333320353
I wonder if you can cross the streams with this in coop
>>333324930
Nice reddit filename you fucking redditor
>>333324734
Stay up close and weave between the bullets.
>>333324009
I disagree. Bullet King's pattern's are way easier to dodge, and he's very large target, so shooting from distance isn't problem either.
>>333324852
>>333325068
>>333324016
Is
>fun
not a meme anymore? You reminded me of how seldom I see it nowadays
So are there any unlockable characters, or are the devs planning on adding them in the future?
Also, favourite character /v/? Marine reporting in.
>>333324985
Yeah, bosses vary in difficulty greatly. I'd rather fight two Beholsters at once than one snek on the second floor.
>>333324206
I love BoI but I find this game very frustrating. The difficulty is so inconsistent. At least with Isaac you could make most runs work. On this if you get a shit draw you're fucked
Controller or Kb+m?
>>333325680
sent ;)
Do the color of chests mean anything? I'm assuming the wooden ones are the most common items and it goes up from there?
>>333325489
>Snake
>Hard
>Beholster
>EASY
What the fuck, am I in opposite land.
How do you find the Beholster easy, teach me your secrets
>>333314417
>Binding of Isaac clone with extra pixelshit and racial quotas
Can't there be an actual new game?
>>333325041
>reddit filename
what the fuck?
Anon thats the first image in good size that pops up if search "played expected got" on google.
how the fuck do you even know what is a reddit filename?
I stopped playing because everything takes too long to die and the gameplay is dodgeroll into reload. Before I played this I thought Binding of Isaac had pacing problems.
>>333325041
doesn't that just help the shitposting cause
>>333318910
>>333325987
>Bulletking with Pilot and default weapon
>>333325820
Wood, blue, green, red, skull
http://gameranx.com/features/id/47348/article/enter-the-gungeon-side-quests-and-challenges-guide/
>>333325656
this is the opposite of how I feel about both games
I felt much more beholden to RNG in BoI
this game, two thirds of the time I make it through a boss I'm just plugging away with my infinite pistol
>>333325656
You gotta be jokin
How long has it been since you played Isaac?
Without some good damage ups good luck getting out of small rooms, or getting past some enemies like the Masks without being beaten the fuck up
Just so you guys know you can use tunnelbear set it to Brazil and then get this off of nuuvem for 6 dollars in less than 5 minutes.
And I am really loving this just spend 3 hours in a row glued to it.
Are there unlockable characters and if so how do you unlock them? Is the occultist or whatever playable?
>>333325871
I don't know, rockets are easy to shoot down, laser attack is super predictable, the spread on his other shots is non-chaotic. Perhaps he is easier for me because his spread is in a circular pattern, the snek just shoots everywhere.
>>333325345
Apparently there are, but the people who had the full game for the longest don't seem to have them yet.
Marine seems like the best character, honestly, better accuracy, quicker reloading, and an ammo refill.
However, I found that The Convict's Budget Revolver shoots faster if you click for each individual shot instead of just holding the mouse button down. That small clip size is still horrible, though.
does anyone know what those altars at the end of the coffin rooms do? I can't figure it out
also holy shit, how do you beat that damn black skull boss, I've probably made it to him 5 times and died every time, crazy bullet patterns
>>333325268
>>333325871
>posting worst girl
>>333326373
What happens for me is the little fucks he spawns make his shit near impossible to dodge. Or they just spawn where I cant see and potshot me. OR they hide behind him.
He also seems to send out the missiles whenever I'm reloading, and sends the out often enough to where I cant clear his minions
For Snek I just dodge through everything she does, it makes her a joke.
The only thing that's ever hit me were some waves of her scream attack, it's also the only one you dont dodge through. Those little stray bullets in the gaps are what hits me, but you can just blank during that, and it cancels the whole move
>>333326275
That's balls. People have streaks of over 100 in hard mode on BoI. You get devil deal precedent and more often than not you can sail through runs
You get a load of shit weapons and no decent passives on this and you're stuffed as you're sure as fuck not going to get any hp upgrades with your default weapons
>>333325987
>tfw getting refund
>>333326970
acquire proficiency
>>333314417
Instincts tell me its a nuclear throne clone
>>333323391
I find Bulletking to be super easy.
The big red eye guy with all the guns is a lot harder and then there's the Tank that rekt me twice, haven't been able to beat it yet.
>>333318910
I haven't even played the game but god damn would you like to cherry pick harder faggot.
I really hate these tanky as fuck bosses.
>>333318910
pretty much the reasons why i'm refunding
maybe when it's 99 cents on steam i'll give it another chance
So is it better than Nuclear Throne? Does it have more content?
>>333315287
Played NT for around 150hrs, average 2500 kills with CoB & Y.V. Played Gungeon for 7 hours straight and beat gungeon 4's boss, but the forge raped my ass... wasn't prepared for such horrors.
What can I say about this game that it indeed is very similiar to throne but much harder to get used to bullet hell parts v. overwhelming enemies. But enough grinding and you'll get good, and most importantly you'll get good and have fun at the same time.
>that level 3 boss difficulty spike
holy shit that god damn cannonball
>>333327371
It's not better per say but it's different enough to warrant a purchase. I have several hundred hours in NT and I can see myself putting a decent chunk of that into this game as well
>>333327371
More guns than Nuclear Throne.
Nuclear Throne has around 110 guns, Enter the Gungeon has around 190.
>>333318910
truth
How do you tell where a secret area is? I can never tell a cracked wall apart from a regular one, too much shit on the screen
the sniper rifle is kind of tits
just beat bullet king for the first time with it
>>333314417
Please tell me this is a psplus game?
>>333327571
Holy shit thats hilarious
Not only does this game have way better gun variety but it has more guns
>>333326073
Every boss is like that for me. Granted, I didnt' get pass level 2 but it's fucking tedious as hell to play it. Enemies on level 1 are braindead easy and they all eat bullets, even the fucking bombs that roll towards you take more than 1 hit to die. And you reload after like 4 shots.
The pacing looks incredibly slow
Was boring to watch tbqh
>>333327779
After you play for an hour you realize there's lots of guns but lots of them are exactly the same just with a different skin
>Nuclear throne 2: more guns than the game released years ago so its better!
Saw a friend playing and i dont think it deserves s purchase for something you can get in a game i already own
>>333327571
I don't like Nuclear Throne in terms of design, but it's fun and everything dies in reasonable time. Plus the simple screen shake effect makes for better gunplay. This game feels extremely slow paced in comparison even with Isaac.
And from what I've seen, Nuclear Throne's weapons are far more varied: just the shotgun has several completely different iterations. Better pixelshit too.
>>333327870
>watching people play videogames instead of playing them yourself
>>333319687
>Horheristo
>Trusting name fags ever.
>>333327779
Shill harder
>>333327779
The guns mostly feel weak as shit on this game. At least NT weapons feel like they had some punch.
The animations and attention to detail in Gungeon is fantastic though
I have no idea what just happened.
I opened a glitchy looking chest and skipped to level two. Immediately entered the boss room to a glichy looking Gunholder. The intro had scrambled text and the gunholder split into two.
I died. I was the pilot with his starting pistol.
>>333327992
I honestly don't know how anyone could say this is slower than Isaac. That was literally one of the most boring games I've ever played.
>>333327103
your instinct is worth about as much as the Absolution mechanic of the same name
>>333327874
I've played for 4
Haven't seen any yet. Care to give an example?
I can point out at least 20 in nuclear throne. To start, every ultra weapon, and every golden weapon.
>>333327812
>easiest enemy in the game
>You have to offload an entire clip to kill
No wonder this game feels tedious as shit
>>333327992
>Plus the simple screen shake effect makes for better gunplay
you're welcome.
>>333328007
>not researching a game you're about to invest money and/or time into
You are literally and figuratively retarded.
>>333328008
>Replying to namefags ever
Starting the game right now, what are some tips or stuff to keep in mind while playing?
>>333328206
But that's wrong
Marine can kill 3 basic enemies with his starting pistol.
Hunter one/two shots most early floor enemies with her crossbow
Haven't tested the rest
>>333328206
are you people using the default infinite weapon like it's what you're actually supposed to be progressing with or something?
>>333328048
I meant Beholster.
Gunholder is a better name though in my opinion
>>333328303
>what is torrenting
>indieshit pixel flavor of the week
>official thread on /v/
>no download
SHAKING MY HEAD TO BE HONEST FAMILIA
>>333327992
>Nuclear thrones weapons are more varied
Oh man, a shotgun that shoots more bullets. And this one shoots FIRE shotgun bullets.
What variety
>>333328475
but devs gotta make money somehow you know desu senpai nig
>>333328475
Check the Roguelite general on /vg/
>>333328475
>posts Tumblrtale
>complains about fotw indie shit
o i am laffin
off yourself faggot
>>333328475
Its devil daggers all over again just hide thread and move on
>>333328490
gungeon's weapons are "this one reuses this level art asset, this other one reuses another art asset"
fuck off
>>333328490
don't shitpost. there's different spray, effects, range, power...
>>333328093
it is slower unless you don't get any damage in isaac. that's isaac's main problem, having shit damage makes it tedious because enemies are for the most part simplistic. this game despite being touted as bullet hell, has plenty of cover and a dodgeroll that makes most enemies a walk in the park - that is unless the damage wasn't so shit and coupled with a fucking several second reload time it made me die out of boredom.
>>333328659
Sound like you haven't even played the game senpai
>>333328638
>undertale had free downloads on /v/ constantly during the week it was praised then it became openly reviled
>exactly like this new game
exactly why i posted it, fuckface
>>333328475
Why not just use cs.rin.ru?
>>333328794
sounds like you can't take criticism
>>333328365
with her crossbow that fires one bolt per five seconds. one bottom tier enemy per 5 secs, now that is tedious.
>>333328337
to remember that steam refunds is a thing before you hit the 2 hours mark
>>333328475
there's downloads fuckin everywhere wut u talkin about m8
This game is absolutely perfect and I am super pumped to be playing it all fucking night with mygirlfriendgirlfriend
>>333328659
Show me these re-used assets
Hell, just tell me the guns names if you're lazy
>>333328659
I'm not shitposting. The different spray and shit just make it a straight up better or worse version of the normal shotgun.
The variety is slight stat changes on most of nuclear thrones weapons variants.
I appreciate the effort that was put into this game, but vast majority of favourable reviews just showcases how vidya bloggers have no idea how important is the pacing for the game quality. There's no way that a game with pacing this abysmal, that on top of that relies on replayability deserves a high score. It's the most important fucking element in both roguelike and shooter genre.
>>333328475
You can literally Google it 5 seconds or buy it for 6 fucking dollars. There's no way you're that poor.
https://twitter.com/DodgeRollGames/status/717463929589514241
/v/ BTFO
>>333328858
>one bolt per 5 seconds
you fucking what
play the damn game
>>333328457
I emphasize money and/OR time. But this is /v/, so I suppose your NEET spare time is next to worthless.
>>333323978
Is that a bad thing? Hard Mode made Rebirth good.
>>333329042
It's faster than binding of Isaac.
This is definitely more fun than Isaac. Not as much as nuclear throne but only time will tell if it gets to be
>>333329093
I played the fucking game, don't take everything literal, the crossbow takes ages to fire and only takes the lowest of the low with first hit.
Compare it to the Nuclear Throne crossbow to see how it's done.
>>333329218
Not really, but it does have that nice warp that should be patched into BoI
>>333329071
>/v/ BTFO
how? are you just spouting words you dont understand?
>>333328048
Seriously, has anyone seen this?
>>333329037
>the kiln
>this gun grabs the pots sprite we have and throws it LOL
>the book shooter gun thing
>LOL IT SHOOTS THE BOOKS THAT ARE ON THE FLOOR
>the gun gun
>HAHA MEMES
fuck off
>>333329337
NT crossbow could also carry you though the game
for a starting weapon, gungeon's crossbow is alright
>>333329071
/v/ likes this game, you doof
>>333329603
i don't
>>333329636
/v/ confirmed not liking the game
>>333329636
You aren't /v/
>>>/out/
How do I unlock the shortcut to lower floors?
Do I just have to keep rescuing people? I got the girl and big thing, vampire looking girl and a blue bullet
>>333325871
with a shotgun beholster is easy
>>333329337
I've played Nuclear Throne, and the only difference is it doesnt pierce on kill.
>>333329438
>Not really
Do you start every run with 2 damage ups?
The red flies take 2 hits, while the equivalent in this game takes 1.
Every spider enemy takes ages, the Gapers have 10 health. Then they only get tankier.
>>333329690
that's why /v/ is BTFO, another successful indie game despite /v/ hating it
>>333329592
>starting weapon
There's another aspect of bad design in Gungeon. Most weapons are +1 and nothing more. Crossbow carries you through NT because you learn to use it to your advantage. You can't do shit with Gungeon weapons because they don't have any damage output. You can finish Nuclear Throne with a lead pipe.
>Fighting bullet king for first time
>Shoot and kill him just as he uses that Molotov attack
>am stuck in fire and die while cut scene plays showing all the loot i could of had if not been stuck in fire
>>333329438
But then the rooms that are nothing but spikes and spike blocks wouldn't serve their steak-eating purpose.
>>333329764
I like it how you forget that Isaac has zero reload time.
>>333329841
>lead pipe
That isn't a weapon the player can use.
>>333329580
I thought you meant the guns themselves not the fuckin bullets.
Nuclear Throne is 10 times worse in the re-using ammo sprites department.
Plus this was about gun variety, not about the like 5 weapons that use in other assets as ammo
>>333329847
I had that in mind but I think the game could manage without those awesome gameplay elements. There's hardly anything more challenging than waiting for the stone head to spit out a blood tear.
>>333329991
A melee weapon, whatever, I don't even like NT, it's just that Gungeon people could learn from it.
>>333329946
yeah he just shoots a fuckload slower
"beefy" mid-range enemy in this game?
3 shots. You crank them out nearly as fast as you can click. Revolver has 6.
>>333329841
ill give you that weapon progression isnt a thing, but holy hell can weapons synergise with passive items
lighting shotgun bullets are fucking great
>>333329705
It's shit.
>>333330021
hah! the joke is on you! You thought my goalposts were here? I have actually moved them all the way over THERE! You did not score at all, in fact you missed completely!
>>333329603
I think it sucks
Ive only played for 62 minutes though, can i get a refund?
>>333329946
I actually didnt consider that. but the reload times are usually only 1-2 seconds, and most of the guns I've seen can clear most of the rooms/a whole wave before needing to reload.
It still feels like enemies stall me less in this game.
The only thing that really makes rooms take longer is the new waves of enemies. Are you sure that's not the real problem you have with it?
>>333330192
I've been bamboozled for the last time
>>333330364
I think two hours is the cut off point
>>333330181
Cheeky son of a bitch
so, it's a roguelike, right? once you die, you start from 0?
>>333330380
I think the main problem you should have with Gungeon is that it can be argued that fucking Binding of Isaac, the game I hate on multiple levels can have better pacing.
I don't mind waves of enemies, I do mind that I don't feel like playing any of the level 1 bosses ever again because it takes ages to kill them. Isaac has that skinner box draw, gambling element where you wonder what's in the yellow room this time. Cheap tactic but it works.
>>333330843
Yeah
>>333330848
Nigga I can argue anything, that doesnt make what I'm arguing any less bullshit
>>333330843
Yeah, unlock system is like Isaac though, items and guns get unlocked through many runs
>>333331009
I am not a nigger and I'm stating the mechanics inherent to games I'm comparing and that I have experienced.
>find mahoguny
>its a gun that shoots two leaves and a pinecone
>leaves act as bullets and pinecone is a grenade
>literally facerolling everything with it and it comes with an absurd amount of ammo (like 370 shots)
>get to third boss
>game crashes
well alright then....
also enemy variety is pretty weak so far and the bosses are more annoying than anything after the 4th,5th,6th playthrough but it could get better at later floors with more stuff unlocked
>>333330848
How can people be this bad I don't even get it. It's like you've never played a game where enemies have had a decent chunk of health. I got to the 4th floor my first run on this. I've also killed the floor 1 and floor 2 bosses with just the starting pistols without any issue. Some weapons are stronger than others and that's just the way these games work.
I still don't know how it takes you so long to kill the bosses if it doesn't even take long with the shitty starting pistols.
>>333330848
>Isaac has that skinner box draw, gambling element where you wonder what's in the yellow room this time.
You don't even get that on Gungeon because you're always running on 0 keys and all the guns are shit
>>333331127
*leafs
jesus fuck im retarded
>>333331208
My complaint has nothing to do with difficulty, you dolt, I was talking strictly about pacing.
So what the fuck do you do at an alter?
How do you drop guns and items if you're playing a keyboard?
Why are the keybindings all for like an xbox gamepad but if I don't have one I can't rebind them to different keys on my fucking keyboard?
How do you free the npcs out of the jail cells if the keys don't work?
>>333331525
>So what the fuck do you do at an alter?You can bring an item from the secret floor 1.5 to it
>How do you drop guns and items if you're playing a keyboard?
F by default IIRC, changeable in key bindings
>I can't rebind them to different keys on my fucking keyboard?
Use your eyes in the options menu, you dolt, you can rebind all the keyboard controls
>How do you free the npcs out of the jail cells if the keys don't work?
You need cell keys, which you can find somewhere on the same level, worst case you need to beat the boss to get it
>>333331802
how the hell do you get to thesecret floor?
>>333331384
I still fail to see how it's an issue.
Its the price that's paid for random generation.
Getting to higher levels doesn't always mean you're always going to get 100% better stuff than what you already have and there's nothing wrong with that.
There are games without any random generation that have worse pacing, lots of them do honestly.
>>333323391
>Bullet King is a free win for me every time
>Vulcan Raven always kills me
