Star Fox Zero : Revengeance
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PG literally saved this game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZ5PQrKisc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6tvyVlGMWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm3ylIlFKw
>>333289489
>it's a let's circlejerk over PlatinumGames thread
>Platinum themselves say they only did art assets.
>Retards will praise them for everything good and shit on Miyamoto for everything they dislike.
>>333289576
This is bullshit
The cutscenes alone look 100% Platinum's work.
>They keep fucking dying
Why are reviewers so shit?
>>333289576
>Platinum themselves say they only did art assets
>cutscenes
>slowmo due perfect evading
>BladeWolf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPnlrPafi0
>>333289576
Pretty much.
>>333289576
>shit on Miyamoto for everything they dislike.
Star Fox Guard is 100% Miyamoto though.
>>333289972
>game is too hard
Can't wait for 68 on metacritic.
>>333289489
>that music
>>333289576
Miyamoto is holding Platinum back. If it weren't for him, we'd have the triumphant return of Star Fox with actual decent visuals and no gimmicky bullshit. Geezer needs to just fucking leave Nintendo already and quitting shoving unnecessary shit down everyone's throat.
Why are they muting the voices?
So are Wolfen's confirmed to be a ripoff of Arwings in this timeline too?
>>333290702
Miyamoto made the voices come through the gamepad. A perfect example of the shit that I'm talking about.
>>333290729
How's that a surprise?
They have Pigma on their team.
>>333290702
Miyamoto didn't get to ruin the game with the episodic format he wanted, but he wanted to ruin SOME part of this game, so he made voices Gamepad only.
>>333290702
Gamepad speakers only.
>>333290827
I dunno. I just wasn't expecting them to transform like Arwings.
>>333290793
Watch the first video moron, you can change it.
>that fucking music
After Assault's badass arrangement, I was expecting to be let down, but this is pretty good. Only thing I have a problem with is,
>"I'm coming for you, Star Fox!"
>it's just Fox he's fighting
>>333290931
>>333290923
>>333290793
Nothing wrong with it.
>>333290793
>>333290923
>>333290931
The fuck. I usually play games Gamepad-only (does this game support playing the Gamepad in third person or is that impossible too?) so this shouldn't affect me but that's retarded.
>>333290793
>>333290923
>>333290931
>Gamepad Speaker only
How badly can one man fuck up? Will he go down in history as the man that made great series and then did nothing but fuck them up?
>>333291082
Yes, according to GameExplain you can toggle camera's on the gamepad with the minus button.
>>333291082
>does this game support playing the Gamepad in third person or is that impossible too?
You can switch view any time.
I like Krystal
>>333289489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkulJbiFJY
>Corneria2
>The entire place is fucking destroyed
>Dire music
>The Tower in the first stage that you protect gets sucked in a vortex
>Gigarilla wrecks shit
>Andross shows up to taunt you.
Fuck I don't know what's going on but I'm hyped
More vids from a way more competent player and with character voices included:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cimVniTYL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xnr587jdDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkulJbiFJY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieZ5PQrKisc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41jLiXuqKKI
Plus preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2K0xWVWOXA
>controls take time getting used to, but give you an amount of precision you never had before in Star Fox
>levels only feel superficially similar to Star Fox 64, the actual objectives and mission structure are completely different and missions are a lot longer
>>333291068
Except that I, and pretty much every other Wii U owner, keep it muted when playing on the TV.
>>333291027
GameXplain specifically stated they recorded voices by connecting a cable to the headphone jack of the Gamepad, and I believe at one point they mentioned there is no way to switch audio to the TV, like you can with cockpit view.
>>333289489
Don't want to spoil it for myself - is the game not bad?
>>333291351
Platinum is the only reason this game may turn out decent.
>>333291294
>Entire place is fucking destroyed
yknow, we weren't that far off with the entire "Corneria gets nuked" thing.
>>333291341I wouldn't mind Krystal returning if and ONLY if they remove every single bit of relationship bullshit tied to her character.
>>333290231
He's the reason the game's price is so high by including a glorified e shop game. Fucking thanks Miyamoto.
Not liking Wolfs voice but the transformation is cool
>>333291808
Pretty sure there's a standalone Zero game m8
>>333291294
>Corneria 2 basically DOES get nuked
WHERE'S MIYU AND FAY
>dat Star Wolf remix
It may not be Assault but it's definitely up there
>>333291314
I can't take gamexplain's reviews seriously. I tend to disagree with them on a lot of things.
>>333291314
nice round up. Hype.
>>333291351
It looks great actually.
>>333289489
>Dat 64 Boss Battle theme
oh mamma
>>333292202
I find myself disagreeing with Andre and agreeing with Derrick most of the time, but what matters here are just the gameplay videos.
>>333292069
Saved for the sequel so they can form a team with Krystal and Katt.
>>333290621
>Miyamoto will die in my lifetime
>tfw no Star Fox Zero Iwata Asks
>>333291052
If you notice he has a plaster over his eye, I'm assuming the 4v4 fight is over and wolf is coming for fox personally
>>333291808
But it's priced the same as any other game.
>>333292798
>any of us could die before Miyamoto
>>333293071
>Miyamoto could accidentally run us over in his kart and kill us
>>333290231
Your point being? Star Fox Guard is great.
ITT: Shitposters act like motion controls and gamepad-only voice acting ruins the game.
The former can be disabled, the latter has no possible negative impact - it's actually a huge plus as the gamepad's underused surround audio is used for it
>>333293658
That's not what I expected from Shiggy Miitomo and Wii U gamepad duet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w9aEwjmHvQ
CORNERIA GOT FUUUUUUUUUUCKED
>>333293772
>miitomo
>bad
>gamepad
>bad
Nobody would fall for such lies
>>333293759
>>it's actually a huge plus as the gamepad's underused surround audio is used for it
>Slippy will scream at me to get this guy off him from all directions
Can't wait.
>>333293759
>the latter has no possible negative impact
What if I don't want to use the Gamepad?
it's clear PG had influence
>>333289489
I think it's just funny to me how the Wolfen's transforming is blade Wolf....While Fox is just some silly looking chicken that can't be taken seriously. Also....
>Lightning Tornado
Wolf confirmed for being a Weeb
>>333293071
>Miyamoto might release a good starfox before he dies.
>>333294129
What if you want to play Smash Bros using a Kinect?
>>333294331
>don't want to use the best controller ever
Can't help you, retard.
>>333294331
I'm not sure if you can use a pro controller for singleplayer, or why you'd want to either
You guys really use Miyamoto as a scapegoat don't you?
When the game is bad, it's all his fault and should the game be good, it's all of the people developing it except him, with the man obviously being responsible for the games flaws.
Similar things have happened with other figureheads.
>>333293887
>Corneria will be nuked rumor had some merit to it
>>333290793
Fucking why? I mean it's really not THAT big a deal but fucking why!
>>333289489
>wolf transformation
GEE PLATINUM
YOU COULDN'T BE DISCREET ABOUT IT?
>yfw venom turns into a jergingha looking motherfucker
>>333294650
To use the surround audio from the gamepad, you can actually here where their voices are coming from. Pretty cool
>>333294510
>>333294523
I think the pro controller feels better than the Gamepad. Why shouldn't I have the option? People complain about Nintendo forcing you to use shitty control schemes like waggle all the time, why is this the exception?
>>333289489
Will this be the new Kid Icarus: Uprising?
>>333294554
Too be fair he doesn't make the wisest decisions. Sticker Star, Wii Music, disapproved of the story book in Galaxy.I can agree with the figurehead thing though. Aonuma gets too much flak.
>>333294720
BORN
INTO A PACK
>>333291314
DAT CORNERIA 2 HOLY SHIT
>>333294791
We don't know for sure if it's the exception. Besides, Splatoon was the exception and has been highly praised for how well-integrated the gamepad is with its gameplay.
>>333293759
gyro controls have a steep learning curve, but once you overcome them they tend to be superior to analog for aiming.Though I still think they're at their best when combined with analog control
no strong feelings about the gamepad voices, the entire point of the game was to sell the concept of the gamepad to consumers, so it's expected they'd play with features to force you to pay attention to it. It reminds me a bit of the phonecalls in NMH, I really missed them in 2. Could be pretty cool with headphones
But it does kinda feel like people are looking at anything they can find to bitch about the game. Or, as this topic is showing, to attribute all positive aspects to platinum, which is somewhat new
Literally hold x to win
>>333294791
>waggle is the same thing as gyro.
>>333294791
>Why shouldn't I have the option?
This game was build around U pad. Like Wonderful 101, Mario Maker, Spratoon and Fatal Frame V.
>>333294760
Can't wait for any W101 references.
>>333294760
Andross seems to have a full body judging from the latest videos since he's shown with a cloak covering what seem to be shoulders, so that's still a possibility of sorts despite the leak that first talked about it being fake.
>>333295064
>Spratoon
Miyamoto please leave
>>333289489
I'm just glad next smash game we are gonna get a more decent looking fox. I'm so tired of command's fox
>>333295045
They're both gimmicks being forced upon me. You can like gyro but I don't want it being forced upon me, and if it is then it's just as bad as waggle.
>>333295257
t. Shitposter that doesn't own Splatoon or even a Wii U
>>333289489
Welp that looks incredibly boring and easy. Looks like a game from 2003. Looks like a downgrade from Assault believe it or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-r-PHAiV24&list=PLV9ZrDQVqbTWJnH_VczC04VzASXhixHq7&index=3
Clear music tracks so far.
>>333295138
leak?
>>333295345
>muh graphics
>muh assult
1/10 I replied.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi34XJx35ZE
LIGHTNING TORNADO
>>333295345
Not
>>333295331
I own both. Splatoon's gyro can be 100% entirely disabled. I heard a report that Star Fox's gyro cannot be 100% disabled, though if that information has since been updated to say it can then my issue regarding the game's gyro no longer matters.
>>333295442
Where did I mention graphics?
>Star Wolf has the Wolfens tranform into wolves
>Star Fox decides Arwings should turn into chickens
>>333295418
Someone on here a week or so ago shared a bunch of stuff about the game including the final boss being similar to Jerghingha, but it was proven fake as he gave a different function for the Falco amiibo from the one that was revealed slightly later.
Yeah, I'm okay with this.
>>333295519
Miyamoto confirmed that it can't be changed "because the game made to use it" or something like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
>Shoot during cutscenes
>Bill
>>333295568
>looks like a game from 2003
What else would this mean?
>>333295519
You can turn gyro controls off in SF0 too, Gamexplain mentioned it in their overview video.
>>333295064
> Wonderful 101
but that game lets you play with the pro controller. It gives you the option. It doesn't help your case.
>>333295724
>"because the game made to use it"
Yeah, just like games that force you to use motion controls, and it's bullshit there as well.
>>333295829
You don't have to use gyro controls, they can be disabled. You can stop shitposting now.
>>333295791
>but that game lets you play with the pro controller
You lost any fun with pro controller in W101. Stop whining.
>>333295759
It means that the environments have very bland design and population, the animations are rigid, the gameplay is overly simplistic. None of those things are graphics. Mechanically there is no depth and the art direction is either shit or executed very poorly. I'm a star fox fan and this game is the definition of anti-hype. It's the least ambitious thing I've seen in awhile.
>>333295980
http://mynintendonews.com/2016/03/04/nintendo-confirms-motion-controls-cant-be-entirely-disabled-in-star-fox-zero/
So this information is false? I'm not shitposting, I'm just making entirely sure that the can be completely disabled before I buy a game that I find playing to be unbearable.
>>333296020
post wonder santa
>>333289489
>location confirmed WATCH FOR supplies
What the fuck, it used to be SENDING supplies.
>>333294791
>Why shouldn't I have the option?
Because that's how the game works, it was built around Gamepad controls. Are you mad that most FPS games force you to use the trigger buttons?
>>333296078
At least half of what you listed are part of a game's graphics...
>>333296143
All I know is gamexplain stated in one their overview video that it can be disabled. I'm not sure why you'd even want to disable it, though.
>>333296158
Haven't screen with him. Here, take Alice.
>>333296163
The made lots of different tiny changes on the famous quotes. Guess it's for enhancing the fact that it's a reinterpretation of the same story.
>>333289489
So will wolf get a new final smash if he ever returns
>>333296163
They slightly changed multiple quotes just to fuck with fans, such as Wolf's "You're good... but I'm better." turning into "You're good... but not good enough."
>>333291808
it's 60 for both you fucking poorfag.
>>333295064
splatoon wasn't "built around" the gamepad. The only functions the gamepad gives splatoon are gyro aiming and a map. And don't tell me the map being on the pad lets you use it faster. Looking down away from the main screen takes just as long if not longer then pressing a button to bring up a map on the main screen. And don't tell me bringing up a map being on the main screen would obstruct the view - to look at the gamepad you have to take you attention away from the tv screen entirely. The only real thing the gamepad offers is gyro aiming which can be turned off - giving you an option.
>>333296291
No, because they're buttons, not fucking gyro controls. I don't see what you don't understand about this, I dislike gyro controls, that is the end all be all of my gripe with being forced to use gyro controls, I don't like them. That is the difference between your FPS game comparison and this. Have I made myself clear or are you going to continue to be ignorant to my argument to try to defend forcing me to use a control scheme which I dislike without alternative?
>>333296359
Post wonder Kamiya
>>333296359
SEMEN DEMON
>no Krystal
>>333296078
>Mechanically there is no depth
I have a feeling videos have a hard time properly portraying how the gamepad viewpoint factors into gameplay. Sounds like one of those things one has to experience to get a feel for but otherwise it does look like Starfox 64 1.5 gameplay wise, which I'm also fine with because I've wanted that for some 15 years now. The series has dicked around enough with not being a rail shooter. A return to roots title is well overdue in my opinion.
>>333296481
>>333296604
Wow, after having the quotes being drilled into my head, that's kind of disheartening
>>333296673
Then don't buy the game
>>333296918
>if you don't like it don't buy it!
Well okay, just don't be surprised when I continue calling the game shit.
>>333289489
i literally just got done playing some star fox 64. this shit looks so much faster! there's a real sense of speed.
man, i'm officially hyped again.
>>333296020
no it fucking didn't you shiteater, it was better with it. The stick is superior to the pad and using the pro controller means I don't have to use the no-battery relatively heavy and clunky mess that is the gamepad.
And EVEN IF the pro controller was inferior to the gamepad at least it gave me the fucking option so people who aren't cocksucking fanboys can enjoy the game which is what the original poster was talking about.
>>333296304
No, graphics is relating to texture quality, polygon count, and performance. None of those things I listed are graphics. There are examples of games that have bad graphics but also have great animations, populated environments and good game feel. Star Fox 0 is not one of them.
>>333289489
Jesus Christ, the game is still ugly as fuck. That white landscape filled with absolute nothing... Even SF 64 had stuff in the landscape while you were fighting Star Wolf. And why is the game so slow? Is it to accommodate the new gamepad controls that require you to aim with the pad?
>>333289489
>Wolf's voice acting
>Wolf's vehicle transformers into the badass Bladewolf from MGR
>That orchestrated battle theme
>>333296661
It's not as simple as just showing a map on the TV - the whole reason the map is on the gamepad is so you can "superjump" to players and player-placed "beacons" on the map. Each player can place a maximum of 3 beacons each, meaning a total of 16 locations to superjump to are possible (+1 since you can superjump to your base). Whilst it's not impossible to make that work without the touchscreen of the gamepad, I doubt you could make it even close to at intuitive.
>>333296673
What's wrong with gyro controls?
You have use them, right?
>>333289489
>lightning tornado!
Was the voice actor sleepy during the recording of the dialogue? It's terrible. Also, why the change in perspective to hype this attack when it's basically just a rush through a straight line? Is it on easy mode or something?
>>333297089
>good game feel
How do you know how the game feels when it's not out yet?
>>333295584
>Implying Fox isn't a goody-goody two-shoes and lets his team have a vote on what should be done
>Falco would argue that it should be bird-like because of "muh rivalry with Fox"
>Slippy would agree with Falco because Arwing has "wing" in it, making it avian by proxy
>Peppy would stay the fuck out of it and let the children bicker among themselves
>Wolf would just say "Fuck you guys, I'm the leader of this fucking team. My ships, my designs."
>everyone would fall in line because
>Andrew is a fucking twat
>Pigma is a shit and doesn't care
>Leon just follows Wolf
And this is why nobody fucking likes Slippy.
>>333289576
What? Where they say that
>>333291314
>Andross has his cape back
>>333297003
Jesus what a waste of time that would be.
>>333296661
If you're not keeping an eye on the map during a match, you're not doing a good enough job to track your team's turf. It literally takes a split second to glance at the screen, and if you're so flustered about dividing your attention for a moment, you can lift the gamepad away from your lap before you look, minimizing the distance you need to look away.
It's not fucking rocket science to play with a second screen. The DS has been around for more than ten years.
>>333296020
Goo luck 101%ing the game using touch controls.
>>333297447
Shitposters have the time to waste since they don't actually play games.
>>333289972
It's their own fault. The babby no-damage mode was put in for them.
>>333297581
You told me not to buy it.
>>333297003
>if you don't like it don't buy it!
That's actually a completely valid point. You wouldn't buy the foods you don't like at the grocery store would you? It doesn't mean those foods are bad, you just don't like them
>>333293759
That one Nintendo rep said motion controls aren't necessary.
>>333297729
Well in this analogy it's more like they're going to stop stocking the food I do like if enough people enjoy the food I don't like, so I have reason to care about whether I like this food or not.
>>333289489
Man I fucking hate Gamexplain's new intro. So fucking loud and obnoxious, and it lasts just short enough that trying to skip it without skipping any of the actual video's a pain in the ass.
>>333297846
But it's still achieving absolutely nothing to cry about it in /v/
>>333292202
I'd say their XCX review was accurate enough.
>>333297846
Guess what? There are other grocery stores
>>333297234
Just use a pointer controlled with the stick. The more I think about it the more I want this hypothetical control scheme because just pressing the - button (for example lets say it brought up the map) and moving the pointer over to the desired beacon and pressing another button is much faster and feels better then having to take attention away from the screen - look down at another screen and actually touch on that screen where you want to go.
>What's wrong with gyro controls? You have used them, right?
Not him but it's a preference - some people (myself unincluded) prefer buttons and only buttons and it's a fair one. Just because someone doesn't like gyro controls doesn't mean that they're lying or that they haven't tried them. That argument can be applied to fucking ANYTHING.
>What's wrong with motion controls? You have used them, right?
>What's wrong with VR? You have used it, right?
>What's wrong with 3D movies? You have watched them, right?
>>333296163
Autist.
>>333297430
Doesn't it look like he has a full body, arms included?
>>333297528
You can use sticks on U pad you know? I talk mostly about asynchronous sections of this game.
>>333298051
That pointer controls idea sounds admittedly neat, but I'm quite certain it'd be slower given how finicky pointer aiming with a wiimote tends to be compared to tapping a screen that's literally in your hands. It's worth keeping in mind that most play splatoon with the gamepad held vertically since it makes the gyro aiming easier, so you're more glancing below the TV at thw gamepad rather than actually looking down.
I understand some may have a preference for non-motion control, but when the games are built around them for faster aiming movement (that sticks, unfortunately, cannot match) there's not much you can do about it - bitching about it on /v/ of all places is hardly going to get you anywhere either.
>2 hour game
>Awkward as fuck tilt controls that give you cheatyface levels of a firing arc making maneuvering pointless
>Phoned in voice acting doesn't even hit the so bad it's good mark
>Midi soundtrack
>Graphics look worse than Star Fox Assault
>>333298612
>tfw no Ed gf with artificial dog on shrooms
>>333298483
Yeah, it does. He's got some sort of robe on. Maybe during the boss fight you can shoot his limbs and head off, and they float like in the old game. I can't wait to see what they have in store. Maybe we'll even get to fight Andross's brain again.
>>333298612
Where did you get 2 hours from? Especially when each level appears to have alternate routes only accessible later on.
How are tilt controls an issue when the game's been built with them in mind? We've known as much since shiggy first showed it off.
The VAs sound fairly on-point to me, not sure why some iconic lines werw changed though.
>MIDI soundtrack
Literally a lie
The graphics are sub-par but I don't care as long as the gameplay holds up.
>>333299114
>falling for the bait
Imagine I posted that picture of disgruntled Falco with the coffee mug from earlier in the thread.
>>333299228
>I was just pretending!
>>333298018
What other grocery stores are making Star Fox?
As ugly as this game is, if its always running at 60 fps I can live with the lowered graphic fidelity.
>>333299114
It's the most obvious shitposting I can't believe you're actually taking it seriously. It's so obvious I think you're just the same Anon trying to drum up attention for his own point.
>>333291294
>The Arwings keep flying around Andross as he speaks.
Oh thank god. I know they have "G-Diffusers" or some shit but it looked so awkward when the Assault Arwings stopped midair.
Just saying how long it takes to run through the game. Replays need not apply.
I was hoping the game would be built with them in mind but then I watch that star wolf fight. He clearly doesn't have tilt controls. He has to maneuver to hit fox, but fox can shoot at anything within 180 degrees of him. Both videos of fighting him look completelely unfair on wolf's end and way too easy.
I don't know what shit composer they have working on it but it sounds midi like and a massive downgrade from assault. Doesn't even have the energy of 64. It's just drab.
And graphics I could understand holding back a bit on, but once again, it looks worse than games from 2 generations ago.
VAs sound bored.
>>333299574
Meant for >>333299114
>>333297234
>It's not as simple as just showing a map on the TV - the whole reason the map is on the gamepad is so you can "superjump" to players and player-placed "beacons" on the map. Each player can place a maximum of 3 beacons each, meaning a total of 16 locations to superjump to are possible (+1 since you can superjump to your base). Whilst it's not impossible to make that work without the touchscreen of the gamepad, I doubt you could make it even close to at intuitive.
Have you ever played a Battlefield game?
>>333298612
64 was a 1 hour game.
>>333299293
Does it seem like that anon is the sameone that started the reply chain, really?
>>333299451
None, because other grocery stores make better products.
>>333299471
>I can't believe you're actually taking it seriously.I wasn't. I was counter-shitposting, a sub-category of shitposting
>>333299789yes
>>333299660
>Have you ever played a Battlefield game?
_no
>>333299660
This jump he speaks of isn't a "respawn" thing, you do it in real time. You can do it to escape situations, you can be crafty with it and shift your attack mid fight, there's even abilities centered around making your jump faster so you can do it when under fire.
>>333299872
If the other grocery stores don't stock what I want there aren't any other grocery stores I can go to, so the stock of this specific one matters.
>>333298552
>asynchronous sections
oh you mean the parts where you go into a building and the everything moves down to the gamepad for some reason with the only thing on the tv is something that lets you know what you're doing is correct (you twisted the bridge corrsctly hurray)? Because those weren't that fun and could easily be done without a second screen. The only bonus minigame part where you need to pay close attention to both screens istwo minigames, one where you control a spaceship while fighting off enemies at the same time and one where you shoot rockets with the gamepad and avoid missiles with the tv screen. Even then these are just minigames that aren't that good to begin with. The better minigames usually have a tradition one screen control scheme. 99% of this game could be done just as well with a second screen. Now of course this does leave out that 2% but it still really gets under my skin when people tote w101 as a reason why the gamepad is a great and totally not an oversized money wasting piece of junk.
/v/ should just quit trying to make analogies.
>>333300040
>oversized money wasting piece of junk
>>333300140
>/v/ should just quit
Fixed.
>>333300140
Yeah, I always hated the "You don't have to be chef to know that food tastes bad" analogy. Nigha, chefs are trained to have better pallets than their customers. Sometimes they just get spoiled customers.
>>333289489
>put all that effort into stylish boss fights
>levels are totally empty
like holy shit theres nothing and barely any regular enemies
>>333300570
How the fuck do you train your taste buds to be "better?" And why should I go to you if you can only make food that requires training your taste buds to specifically tastes to enjoy?
This game's giving me a reason to live
>>333300758
I'd rather it be kept concise than spam waves and waves of enemies - reminds me of how Bayonetta's starfox-like portion overstayed it's welcome in that regard.
>>333301105
how bad are you
>>333298051
>because just pressing the - button (for example lets say it brought up the map) and moving the pointer over to the desired beacon and pressing another button is much faster and feels better then having to take attention away from the screen
Have you played the game? That would be much, much slower and clunkier, you'd get splattes while looking at the map half the time. It literally takes half a second to tap the screen and you really want the map up at all times to keep track of the turf and other players.
>>333300040
Are you the same idiot who kept shitposting the Star Fox Zero on /m/?
>>333291314
Did they confirm that you can lock the reticle?
>>333298051
If bringing up a menu with a button, moving a pointer, and pushing another button is "much faster" and easier for you than using the Gamepad screen, then I don't necessarily blame you for having your preference, but for those of us who get along well with dual screen gameplay, using the screen is WAY faster than that.
If you just can't click with managing dual screens, that's fair, but regardless of whether SFZ gives you the option to disable gyro controls or not, this is a game made for dual screens, on a console with dual screens. Not that Nintendo has made the best case for it or very much use of it in its lifespan, but it's like expecting a DS/3DS game to only use one of the screens.
>>333301290
I found the starfox section the easiest part of Bayonetta 1 though, it just lasted far longer than it needed to.
>>333292620
don't joke about that
>>333301394
Oh, you're talking about the section in Bayo 1. Fair enough, then.
>>333301105
SF64 has a minimum 150 kill quota for each level
Zero looks to have around 50 or less as kills are worth multiple points.
>>333294354
>PG fags in charge of not being dickriders
>>333301469
Yeah I agree it's a LOT better in Bayo 2, extreme fun was had
>>333301394
dude that was Space Harrier
>>333294354
oh shit that looks just like the orochi fight in w101
>>333301314
The fuck is /m/? We have another board for manlets?
>>333301567
Well now I feel stupid. Oh well, it doesn't invalidate my point still.
>Cool dog fight that you can turn into a ground vehicle and shit
>Still no versus mode what so ever
I get more and more pissed about this as the days go by
>>333301528
Ssshhhhhh
>Star Fox Zero thread
>derailed yet again by Splatoon faggots
>>333297152
>>Wolf's voice acting
kinda bland
>>333301871
Derailed how? Starfox discussion is still going faggot
>>333301871
>>derailed yet again by "forced motion" shitposters
fix'd
>andross' theme sounds like his name is being chanted
>>333296819
Too bad.
Meme Fox 64 fans don't need pandering.
>>333301518
Thanks for ignoring my point almost entirely to shift to a different one, but still I have to ask - where are you getting that data from?
>>333301743
You know why there's no versus anon.
>>333292947
Doesn't he always have that though?
>>333301871
>Bitching about gyro controls you've never used
>"It's TOTALLY faster to bring up a map and move a pointer with the stick than it is to tap a touch screen once!"
>Game is shit because I can't use a controller it wasn't designed to use even though I actually can use it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgRR2oO9tVQ
Hey, the assault multiplayer stage!
>>333289576
Source
http://playeressence.com/early-previews-star-fox-zero-negative-controls/
Game journos don't like the controls.
>>333302124
The fucking internet
>>333301871
These:
>>333302031
>>333302152
Once we can all play the game then SFZ's controls can be judged on their own without uninformed shitposts, blanket statements, or having to drag Splatoon into it. So wait two fucking weeks.
>>333302152
It would be slower to bring up a map, but they could have just used a button combo to at least warp back to base (though in all honesty that might make it annoyingly too easy to warp out of danger)
However considering most super jumping is done right after a spawn, they could have let you choose the super jump point WHILE you are waiting to respawn.
Or you could just have the three names of your teammates at the bottom of the screen, and have a button that lets you toggle between them.
Professional game designers shouldn't have this kind of problem where one inconvenience completely stumps them to the point they have to completely rely on a second screen
>>333302360
Sounds to me like a repeat of the Splatoon controls: hard to master but GOAT once you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsOEGPLa1Z4
>this plays when you tap the Fox amiibo
About fucking time the superior Star Fox soundtrack got it's due.
>>333302360
Calling it now, game will be great but journos won't bother putting the 30 minutes into learning the controls properly and will pan it for being too difficult.
This is why western AAA games are as safe, generic and simple as possible, so idiots don't bang their heads against the wall and call the game bad.
>>333302530
Source me please, as I can't find that info, probably because only a select few reviewers have the game and none have completed it
>>333302127
>Still no cool online versus mode like splatoon
>>333289576
>source: my ass
>>333302564
>why aren't they hindering an intuitive feature to appease my arbitrary needs?
>>333297896
>I hate gamexplain
Fixed
Who would ever like those fags
>>333291052
He's calling him "Star Fox" in a condescending manner. He's screwing with him, like he does.
>>333290793
You fuckers loved this shit in No More Heroes. Why is it different now?
>no multiplayer whatsoever
>even fucking Star Fox Command had multiplayer and that game was trash
>>333302564
Anything else would still be slower and less intuitive than simply tapping the touch screen. That's how the game was designed, you're going to get killed half the time looking at the map if you try to super jump at any time other than after having just spawned.
>Professional game designers shouldn't have this kind of problem where one inconvenience completely stumps them to the point they have to completely rely on a second screen
You're pulling that completely out of your ass to justify your dislike of the control scheme. Get over yourself, the game was designed this way because it's much more intuitive and faster than traditional stick controls.
I'm projecting and assuming here, but I really doubt you've actually played the game, or if you do you're probably very bad at it. Gyro controls are superior in every way to sticks, having map on a second screen is preferable to it either taking up space on the main screen or requiring you toggle between them.
>yfw that Dragon from SF2 shows up
>yfw Platinum designed escape sequence from Venom
>yfw it'snot the Falco amiibo, it's Bayonetta's
>>333303091
>he plays games for the multiplayer
SF0 has multiplayer anyway, just not competitively.
>>333302730
>Dual screen at 60 fps
>Online
>>333303091
The only good multi in SF was Assault.
>>333289546
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIND
>>333303365
Splatoon right?
>>333289489
>Almost a year ago people were bitching about Zero being too slow
>Sector Gamma
Jesus fuck, can you say BTFO or what?
>>333303587
>an almost-static map is the same as actual gameplay on the gamepad screen
>>333303389
Which is why I'm disappointed that they don't want to expand on it.
Could you imagine that shit nowadays?
>>333302898
Because people feel the need to nitpick this shit when Nintendo does it.
>>333303278
>>points out having a second screen is a crutch for the designers
>the gyro controls are good!!
can you not read?
>>333303365
Fuck you anon.
I love the multiplayer in these games and so do all my roommates. The fact it dosent have it is a deciding factor of whether or not I wait for a price drop or not for this title.
>>333303762
Just imagine that Wolfen dogfight but as an online duel, where you can put custom taunts when you fly close by.
>>333302898
I still like it. Don't mind Miyamoto senseless haters.
>>333303930
goddamnit anon, now you made me sad something like that will never happen.
>>333302898
it was cool in no more heroes. If it's optional in zero then its cool too but to have every line of dialogue coming out of the gamepad is annoying. I just want a normal fucking game. It's like they're adding these features for the sake of adding them. It's like they realised that the gamepad doesn't really do all that much so they're shoehorning it in despite the fact it doesn't add anything to the game and could even be detrimental. Now like I said if its optional then it's a neat bonus but if it's forced then people have a right to be upset.
>>333289489
>Sector Gamma description says late game
>Boss is Attack Carrier
>lol are you kidding m-
>ALL RANGE MODE
Well then can't wait to see what they do with that
>>333304378
The voice comes out the gamepad for a reason - it's so you hear it in surround sound from it so you know where the voices are coming from.
>>333301430
I'll joke about whatever I damn well please, because if I do it enough it'll come true.
>>333294354
Man I really like platinum games, but platinum fans really are retarded.
>>333297413
But Slippy is canon Fox's bff, they were Academy roomies.
He'd go with Fox over dickbag Falco any day.
>>333305259
Slippy is tsun tsun for Falco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP4UD7dTWmg
I was hoping we would get another "all range mode" mission where we had actual friendlies flying around (ala the Katina mission in 64).
This looks pretty good.
> Phase 1 complete
That mean a boss fight follows?
Since it's basically a Platinum game, get yourselves ready for the usual criticisms for being a Nintendo and Platinum games
>Somebodies going to complain about the same being short despite the game being built around replay ability and branching paths
>Sombodies going to complain about the controls instead of learning and getting gud like Wonderful 101
did wolf just fucking die?
>>333291808
Did Miyamoto shoot your fucking dog or something? Jesus christ.
From video:
>You can disable the motion controls except for when you're actually firing
What?
>>333305629
Holy shit.
H-he's okay, right?
>>333305835
he's fine, even he said he can't lose.
>>333305835
In Assault you murder the entirety of Star Wolf and then
>That's enough, Fox.
Suddenly they're not exploded anymore.
I think he's fine.
>>333305835
*It was a hologram*
>>333305629
The ships exploded when they hit the ground in 64, too.
And speaking of 64
>yfwtransforming Wolfen II
So what the hell is this a prequel, a sequel, a remake?
>>333289489
>Star Wolf's theme
Every time
Let me get this straight, the game says 1-2 players but the co-op is simply one person driving and the other shooting lasers?
Nintendo really dropped the ball by not having a fast paced, dog fighting multiplayer mode where you can switch between flight and ground mode. Kind of similar to Metroid Hunters but with arwings.
>>333306191
A reboot you stupid fuck
>>333306191
reimagining
>>333305835
invisible ejector seat
he's fine
>>333306329
>Hunters
>good
Nigga get the fuck outta here.
>>333306443
Scrap that comment if you don't agree with it. I was like 12 when it came out.
>>333305678
Gyro only activates while shooting? That sounds better.
This game comes bundled with that project guard now, right? So I had a pre-order of both project guard and this starfox game, I wonder if I need to cancel project guard
>>333289546
TRANS-AM
>>333307007
Why? Guard looks fun and actually has online support.
>>333307007
Only the first print edition does.
If you don't have that one ordered you shouldn't cancel the project guard order.
>>333307007
Wait, where are you? Burger or bong land?
>>333296774
That's the problem though-- if you can't sell people on a game's concept without them sitting down and playing it for an hour, your game isn't going to sell. All people see with SFZ is ugly graphics that look like an upscaled Wii game at best, because Nintendo is basically trying to pull Oculus Rift levels of performance (60 FPS on two different screens) using what's essentially a heavily overclocked multi-core Gamecube with a last-gen GPU. There's also confusion with a lot of people as to wether SFZ is actually a new game or not, because many people I've talked to think it's a remaster of Star Fox 64 with new controls. If I were to try and explain to them why it's not a remaster of SF64 with new controls, I'd find myself at somewhat of a loss for words.
The twin camera gimick was a bad idea. If they wanted to do something novel with the gamepad they could have had a dashboard that gave you access to your ship's various systems on it. You can only look at one screen at a time anyway and it wasn't worth cutting the system performance in half for.
Is there no VA for most of the lines of dialogue?
>>333307454
There's voice acting for every line of dialogue, it's just coming out of the gamepad and some people don't bother capturing it.
>>333306675
But if Gyro only activates while shooting and I'm shooting pretty much all the time.
Fuck, that doesn't make any sense.
>>333307568
oh ok thank God.
>>333305035
Don't google this.
>>333307454
Voices are from the gamepad and a lot of reviewers don't capture from the gamepad at all. GameXplain's the only ones who did so far.
>>333307454
The dialogue comes from the gamepad because fuck you it's a cockpit and the faggots recording it are too shit at the game to even bother messing with the options
>>333307407
Nobody on /v/ cares about financial successes, they just want to know how it plays, and reviewer footage and feedback on that front looks good so far
>>333289576
Paperfags are a vicious bunch.
All because Sticker Star was a puzzle game instead of a rehash (which ironically they'll shit on any other Nintendo game that is similar to its predecessor) they made it their life goal to make sure no one enjoys anything Miyamoto related and any good points, will be praised but not because of Miyamoto cause he's only capable of bad parts.
>>333307619
That's the best we can get with this kind of control really. I dislike gyro and the gamepad, but i want some Star Fox. There's fuck all to play on Wii U at the moment if you don't like pokémon.
>>333307872
I care if it means we have to wait another 10 years for the next game in the series.
>>333307007
US gets Guard bundled in. EU only has it as part of the "first print edition"
>>333292872
You can still ask puppet Iwata I'm sure he's somewhere in the treehouse
>>333293887
>YIKES! Where'd you come from?
holy shit Slippy is more girly sounding than ever.
>>333291247
kill yourself
>>333307983
Okay, but you should cry about it internally instead of shitposting on a site for neets and weebs
>>333307682
TOO LATE
>>333307246
>>333307256
>>333307353
>>333307985
I'm in Canada, years ago I did the Bestbuy E3 preorder deal, and preordered both Project Guard and Starfox 0. Now that they are being bundled I wonder if I should call bestbuy and ask if my Project Guard just gets cancelled and combined with Starfox 0.
>>333307407
>If they wanted to do something novel with the gamepad they could have had a dashboard that gave you access to your ship's various systems on it.
I like the idea they went with, but a long time ago I had a similar thought to this when Miyamoto said they needed a new control idea for F-ZERO before they would consider making one.
The G Diffuser is supposed to be a finicky system to manage. I would enjoy using switches and sliders on sub-systems a la Affordable Space Adventures.
>>333308408
??? I didn't even know best buy did that. They'll probably just send you a download code or something.
Yeah, cancel that. Zero comes with guard so there's no point really.
>>333291294
HYPE
>>333289489
Nah i'm good senpai. maybe the next star fox game wont be bad. it's really quite amazing just how much damage Adventures did to the progress of this series. been over a decade and it still isnt as interesting as Starfox64 yet.
For the people who hate gyro controls, doesn't the pilot get a simple blaster in 2-player co-op?
What's stopping you from putting the Gamepad down, playing "multiplayer" as the pilot, and only using the Gamepad when absolutely necessary (like having to aim at weak points for a boss)? It even adds some challenge if you only ever get a weak laser.
>>333308602
Yeah pre-orders can be weird after years and years of waiting for the game. I pre-ordered the Overwatch Collectors from ebgames and it says it costs 0 dollars. I doubt they will send it for free by mistake, but I wonder...
What IS a G-diffuser anyway?
>>333308515
>Miyamoto said they needed a new control idea for F-ZERO before they would consider making one.
we'll never get a new f-zero game
>>333308956
Gravity Diffuser. It diffuses gravity.
>>333308956
I don't know, but something's wrong with it.
>>333308783
You really think SF0 is going to be on the same level as crap like Adventures, when it's clearly above it?
>>333309312
I didn't mind starfox adventures
>>333297413
>tfw you'll never be bossed around by alpha Wolf.
>>333307353
not that guy but in bongland does guard come with zero??
>>333309183
Miyamoto is just waiting for VR to hit Nintendo consoles(again)/mobile and become big so they can make F-Zero VRX
>>333308929
Hasn't it been confirmed that you can turn them off?
What's everyone crying about?
>>333308956
God-diffuser. In SF0 the gang's final enemy will be god combined with mecha-Andross, and the G-diffuser weakens gods mecha powers. You can trust me for uncle had sex with Nintendo.
>>333309736
>F-Zero VR
Literally motion sickness: the game. Terrible idea.
>>333305517
Each mission has phases now, Platinum style, you get a medal for each phase.
>>333309856
Maybe for pansies
Macbeth better be as fantastic like the n64 version was.
>>333309312
Adventures is fine considering how far Miyamoto went to kill a Rare game.
>>333289489
Star Wolf sounds really familiar. Kinda like Revolver Ocelot.
>>333309967
This
I think it'll be great
>>333310286
Which Ocelot? Revolver, Young, or Venom?
>mfw literally everyone who mentions the co-op complains about it
None of you fuckers ever played Robotron 64 with a friend did you? The co-op was the same (one person moves and the other shoots) and this shit is going to be hot bananas with a friend. I'm looking forward to it so much.
The game isn't good in the slightest. Its forces motion controls are terrible. All range mode has less things in it than the 64. Oh kids can't read maps let's add some terrible lock on feature that has you flying around like an idiot.
Thanks miyamoto.
>>333290793
"It's to simulate actually being in the cockpit of the Arwing. The Gamepad's speakers will act as the Arwing's com-link in this way."
>>333310772
ur mommy
>>333309967
>>333310347
No. This isn't one of those "git gud" scenarios, if you had a VR game with rapid scenery movement like that you will experience motion sickness and dizziness. It is a terrible idea.
>>333311036
You'll be seeing your dad soon?
>>333302815
What's wrong with them?
Krystal is cute
Everyone got a face lift
>>333289576
This so much, if anything sector gamma it's because of him and not platinum.
>>333311385
3DS is nostalgiapandering and Zero is an actual new model
Here's the portraits we have sop far for zero.
>>333305835
>characters actually dying in a Nintendo game
Has that ever happened with an antagonist?
>>333311385
I like that all of Star Fox gets the scouter things like Fox and Falco in Smash. Nice touch
>>333311569
>fox's scouter is on the right and wolf's is on the left
neat
>>333311790
That's not a scouter on wolf.
>>333311876
Is it an eyepatch?
>>333311385
Don't really like the new yellow lines on Leon's eyes.
They got rid of Andrew's huge ass nose too.
>>333311569
>Star Wolf second fight portraits
The monkey got himself some goggles and the pig has wacky headgear or something.
>>333312018
>monkey
>pig
Andrew and Pigma
so this is actually going to be good?
>>333311551
Well 3DS was a remake
>>333290056
good lord
this gif never fails to
>>333312323
read previews,play for yourself,we don't have the game, we're just watching it.
>>333311790
It's an eyepatch
>>333309183
There's only one solution: Miyamoto must retire or die.
>>333295519
but why would you disable gyro in splatoon? It's no gimmick, it makes you objectively better and its responsive as hell
>>333289489
>Wolf can go into walker mode
God damn.
>>333311257
>>333308515
>they needed a new control idea for F-ZERO before they would consider making one.
What is it with Nintendo always wanting a new fucking gimmick in their games before they decide to make it?
Half the time they're complete and utter failures. The other half are games introduced in their infancy or successors that didn't get cock-gobbled by Nintendo's blasphemous desire for "muh new and innovative gameplay experience!"
>>333313632
Just give in. You know you can't resist her charms.
>>333289489
>that walking x-wing
what the actual fuck? who thought that was a good idea?
>>333313094
Because they usually try to think of what concept would make a neat game and then decide what series should get it after enough development. The only series they specifically make for the sake of a sequel is NSMB and that's more of a thing they do with new employees just to get them accustomed to the office and technology and shit.
>>333313890
The chicken walker was a mistake.
Wolf Walker is pretty legit though.
>>333309221
I think the chicken walker has potential.
>>333313890
>not instantly pitting the blame on Miyamoto
>Nintendo allows a weeb third party to ruin another franchise
First it was team ninja with Metroid and Zelda, now it's platinum and Star Fox.
What's next? Giving F-Zero to some trash like Tamsoft?
>>333289489
>the speed and smoothness of the gameplay
>the quick transitioning back and forth between walker and aerial combat mid battle
>that ground wolf design
FUCK YES
>the puppet-like movement on the bottom screen
>the lack of talking minus extremely brief one-liners
>the voice acting
>that shittily remixed music
FUCK NO
>>333291314
>that Sector Beta footage
Jesus fuck that was impressive
Is there a reason the game is already on the Miiverse Wii U home screen? I flip out and thought the game was out already
>>333313890
Miyamoto
>>333289489
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbm3ylIlFKw
>1:07
>I think we're just making it madder.
>madder
>>333314580
>speed
>he go tricked by a fish eye lens and a filter
>>333314303
>two screen focus
>chicken walker
what else could go wrong? i preordered.
>>333314753
do you think hes just mad because his butt buddy died, and hes taking out his frustration on his loyal audience?
>>333314846
>what else could go wrong?
>the only hope of a sequel will come in the form of paid DLC for SFZ
>>333311992
i wonder why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A04ZN4qA740
New trailer
>>333301339
Seeing as how a lot of the gameplay demands you not to lock it, I don't see why they would willingly allow you to lock it.
>>333314447
>ruinI get it anon, you want F-zero to get this treatment
>>333311992
>They got rid of Andrew's huge ass nose too.
It's probably to make him look closer to Andross.
>>333314447
GX/AX was developed by the Super Monkey Ball and Yakuza team.
Also, Star Fox Command was by a lot of the same folk who worked on Ace Combat.
>>333291314
Huh, I always thought Bill was a Beaver.
>>333315549
>Star Fox Command was by a lot of the same folk who worked on Ace Combat
No Wonder It Sucked Lol.
>>333313094
They don't. That's just PR talk for "F-Zero doesn't make any money so we're not going to make any more."
>>333315549
>>333315779
Durr, meant Assault.
Command was by fucking Q Games. The Pixeljunk guys. But Dylan Cuthbert works there.
>>333313094
>Nintendo dismissed online for the Gamecube because "it's just a gimmick"
>Fans have been begging for years for just a game like F-Zero GX with HD graphics and online play
>Nintendo says "we can't do that because it's not gimmicky enough"
>Garbage, terrible motion controls
>Forced to use them and to look at two screens at once
>This game is saved
Nah this game is gonna be trash and Nintendo will sadly bury another good series because of terrible sales. Building it around the awful gamepad gimmick killed any chance this game had of being good, let alone playable.
>Voices ONLY come out of the gamepad
what the fuck? Why? Why would they think this is a good decision? The gamepad mic is horrible. What if I have surroundsound and want to hear them talking all around me? What if I want to blast the volume?
>>333316814
The gamepad has surround speakers. I don't know how it works but it's oddly effective, most games don't use it though so if you don't believe me go into the gamepad settings and test out stereo versus the surround option.
The thing that bothers me about the forced motion controls is that they don't even offer the OPTION to play without them. There is NOTHING wrong with including options in your games. The more options the better.
It's fine if you want to market the game around the gamepad controls, but if people don't want to use them, they shouldn't be forced to. I'm really afraid that this is going to end up being another Kid Icarus Uprising. A great game held back by it's less than stellar control scheme.
>>333317041
Yeah but what if I want to turn the game volume up loud? I won't be able to hear the radio chatter. It's just a really stupid design decision to not let us at least decide if we want the voices to come out of the speakers or not.
>>333316475
Is that why Splatoon is so unplayable and sold so badly?
Oh wait
>>333317193
You can still read it on screen, it's all just one-liners anyway
>>333317195
Splatoon doesn't require me to look at two screens at the same time and was a new series and IP. This game will tank and the series will be abandoned but Nintenyearolds will defend it to the death.
All they had to do was keep the normal control scheme in the game so that it wouldn't suck but they couldn't even do that.
>>333317082
You can turn them off, gamexplain confirmed it.
>>333317195
Splatoon's motion controls are optional.
>>333314447
You know Assault was made by Namco and Adventures was made by Rare, right?
Star Fox is Nintendoland's bike
>>333317402
But the way they said you can turn them off confuses the shit out of me.
You can turn them off, except while you're shooting.
I don't comprehend.
>>333316814
That's my biggest complaint with the game so far. Why the fuck isn't there even an option to change this?
>>333317628
Probably because otherwise you wouldn't easily hear where their voices are from relative to you, which is why they're doing it
>>333317402
Source? Because Nintendo changed that stance and it's motion controls or bust.
>I suspect that the motion controls are going to be a turn-off for some, but I quickly adapted. While it won’t be until I have an extended play session that I’ll be able to solidify my feelings, that scheme worked well enough that I’m still interested in the game.I asked about whether they can be turned off, and the short answer is, "no."
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/star_fox_zero/b/wii_u/archive/2016/03/03/star-fox-zero-has-been-drastically-overhauled-following-fan-criticism.aspx
Motion controls are no longer optional
>>333317802
That doesn't answer the question. Why can't I just have the sound come out of the TV like every other game?
The option should be there.
>>333317802
It's not like I'm playing on a mono TV or anything.
Plus that's not even how radios work.
>>333311019
>as he says, while VR racing games and VR games in general with rapid movements already exist.
>>333317914
Because of it's out the TV you can't hear where the voices are coming from. The gamepad's speakers are capable of surround sound. Not just stereo, but an oddly effective surround sound, no idea how it works.
>>333318047
>Plus that's not even how radios work.
True, but they are hardly going for realism
Huh. After the new trailer was uploaded, I went from meh to excited. Some of these levels look really fast paced and fun. I don't think even Lylat Wars was this fast. I thought they'd slow down the game immensely since they're making you keep track of two screens at once now, but that doesn't seem to be the case at all.
Still pissed off about the StaFox Guard shit. That shouldn't even be a thing they wasted time on.
>>333318201
They do? Got any clips?
Haven't kept up with the VR scene.
>>333317857
I don't get this hatred for gyro controls. This isn't wagglan where you have to point some dildo at the screen and flap about, you're aiming the gamepad to what you want to shoot, and it works exceptionally well (as proven in Splatoon). I suppose it would be nice to have the option but given the unmatched speed and precision of gyro aiming that's probably why it'd be required.
>>333294774
What? Are you a retard? Explain this. How the hell does shitty stereo speakers on the gamepad make the audio any more ''surround'' than decent stereo speakers on the TV? Explain you sloppy fucking cunt.
>>333318537
I have no clue how it works, but assuming you actually own a Wii U, go into the settings and select the gamepad settings or whatever, then go into sound, then you'll be able to toggle between mono, stereo, and surround - you can hear quite a difference, I don't know how it works but it works very well.
>>333314592
>It's a "fly through the enemy's shields while they create an opening so the enemy can fire their super weapon" episode
Neat.
>>333318241
But anon, I don't give a fuck about where the voices are coming from.
>>333302898
because it was a fucking telephone, here is key combat stuff being told to you in life or death situation, stuff that should normally be on a fucking comm link, not on your shitty tablet, retard
So there's regular PC-tan and then there's Toaster PC-tan.
Where is Potato PC-tan?
>>333318812
>>333318537
Pic related.
Yes, I took it just now, sorry for poor quality, bad lighting in here.
>>333319072
It matters during gameplay, particularly when fucking Slippy is getting his ass attacked again.
>>333319243
>two speakers
>surround
kek you're a retard
>>333319424
But anon. I don't give a fuck.
Removing basic functionality is never a good thing.
>>333311385
general pepper looks so fluffy
>>333319164
Wrong thread, buddy.
>>333319463
I didn't say it's real surround sound, it'll be virtualized somehow, but it still works and is the reason gamepad sound is used for the voices (so you can hear where they're positioned without having to look)
>>333319548
>I don't care if it's useful I just want to shitpost
>>333319749
Yeah, I realized.
I wish Nintendo would give us a demo for Star Fox Zero.
Well I just did a complete 180 on this game. Miyamoto's little tower defence game should be fun as well
>>333319683
I know right?
Least intimidating general ever
>>333320623
inb4 you fight him
Why are people getting excited? This game looks so below average. I own a Wii U and find more reason to try that shitty idol game than waste money on this.
>>333320623
don't you just want to cuddle him?
(not in a gay way)
>>333320865
The better question is why aren't you?
>INB4 muh audio and gyro controls!
>>333320857
>honor, let me keep my honor, fox!
>>333321019
Short campaign, reused ideas from 64, no incentive for me to replay it, not visually appealing, doesnt look difficult at all, mechanically shallow, hover craft missions look obnoxious, full price for something that short and on rails, and it just smells of something rushed and unfinished like most of the Wii U library. I have no desire to fill the wide voids the Wii U has in software out of desperation, as I have other games to play and enjoy.
I would bother if it looked like something worst playing rather than a small scale project to give wii U owners something.
I will fart mu butt when this game comes out.
>>333318380
>Still pissed off about this optional minigame
>>333289489
Fuck, just realized what this reminds me of with the transforming
>>333317082
>I'm really afraid that this is going to end up being another Kid Icarus Uprising
I hope it will end up being another Kid Icarus Uprising
I'm going to miss Star Wolf's British accents.
>>333321493
You don't like the Star Fox series overall, got it.
not buying until it's confirmed I can play with the Pro controller and no motion control second screen dogshit garbage trash filth.
>>333321647
He's right. Think about the time it would have taken to develop that game, all those new art assets and voice over work that had to be done, level design and coding etc. And for what? Some shitty tower defense game.
If they had instead focused their efforts on the actual game they might have been able to add in the option for voices out the TV or medals.
>>333321952
I think I'll miss Wolf's southern accent the most.
>>333320865
Watch out friend, there are highly autistic fanboys camping this thread that enjoy shitposting whenever anyone questions the WiiU's value or implies it's dumb to pay hundreds of dollars for a console specced for 2006
>>333289489
What exactly looks Platinumy or Revengeancey about this? It just looks like Star Fox. Or are you really just saying that because there's a robot dog?
>>333289546
TIME
TO
LEAVE
THEM
ALL
BEHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
>>333322218
>If they had instead focused their efforts on the actual game they might have been able to add in the option for voices out the TV or medals.
Why are you trying to talk about things you don't understand like game development?
I haven't played a Star Fox since the original. Is this what waking up from a coma feels like, what the fuck is going?
>>333322382
>developing another game didn't use anybody from the Zero team and took no time at all
Alright buddy.
What do you think those medals do?
Probably something cool, huh?
>>333289489
Star Fox 0 is literally the only game I'm excited about playing this year
>>333309558
Don't hurt me like this, anon.
Not today.
>>333289489
>Location confirmed. Watch for supplies.
what the fuck is this horse shit? It's supposed to be "sending supplies", why would they change that?
>all hard modes in Nintendo games are now locked behind toy purchases
>>333322173
You can't. Single player is with gamepad only.
Co-op is the only way you can use a classic controller (or wiimote + nunchuk) to fly the ship, while your partner aims and shoots with the gamepad.
>>333322857
That's just glass-cannon mode.
There might still be an expert mode waiting.
>>333322867
So the game is only good for throwing in a dumpster, got it.
>>333322173
You cannot.
>>333321493
>Short campaign
How do you know how long it is?
>reused ideas from 64
It's called a reboot, there's many differences
>no incentive for me to replay it
Did you miss the fact each level has split paths and secret (harder) endings? Many can only be reached later on as you get new abilities.
>not visually appealing
That I can agree with. Some planets look nice but you can tell sacrifices were made to make this run 60fps on 2 screens at once
>doesnt look difficult at all
What does difficulty look like?
>mechanically shallow
Flight sections, tank sections, glider-like parts, walker sections, gyro aiming with cockpit view, etc. doesn't sound shallow to me
>full price
Including Starfox Guard, standalone copies without guard go for less
Do you just hate the starfox series?
>>333322581
Yes you are really dumb if you think the games would be any different if the other didn't exist, they each have their budget and things like the voices coming from the gamepad are developed or planned since very early, I bet that even took more than if they were just coming from the tv (although not much time, it's a thing that can be done fast).
I bet you are the kind of guy that thinks if dark pit would have been cut from smash 4 then the game would have more content or characters.
>>333290793
>>333291094
>>333294650
>actually getting autistic over this
Pathetic
>>333322581
>developing another game didn't use anybody from the Zero team and took no time at all
Other than Miyamoto (possibly), it wouldn't have, it's rare a team will develop more than one game at once, usually they'll focus on 1 project, especially one as major as a starfox game. Guard had been on-and-off development fairly casually since the Wii U launched, though back then it wasn't known to be associated with Starfox, it's probable they noticed Starfox0 was going well and decided to give Guard a starfox paintjob.
>>333323213
>games can be magically conjured out of the air and take no resources at all
Thanks for proving you don't understand anything about video game development.
>>333321664
>that one fucking escort mission where you had to snipe the radar drones
>>333323358
Wow, you didn't even read the post didn't you.
>>333323473
Yeah, and you didn't understand what's being said at all.
Take the resources wasted on Guard and put it into Zero, Zero will be a better game than it is. It's simple math you fucking retard.
>>333323679
Are you trying hard to sound stupid, or is it just natural ability?
>>333323679
How would the assets spent on Guard help with the forced motion controls and voices coming out of the gamepad speakers? The rest of the game looks fucking great, those are the two main issues that hold it back.
>>333323679
Anon, if anything Star fox is using Guard resources, Guard is a project that has been more time in development than star fox.
>>333323679
>Take the resources wasted on Guard and put it into Zero
But, that's not how it works, anon. They already have both games planned out and being developed separately. One's existence does not affect the other.
>>333323679
Why did you ignore >>333323343
>>333323832
>>333323841
>>333323858
Time, people, money. These are resources wasted on Guard regardless of if they planned it (in fact, planning to waste resources on a side project instead of going all out on the main feature is baffling). Don't make Guard, suddenly you have more resources to spend on Zero, making Zero better.
Really isn't hard. I know /v/ is stupid but god damn.
>>333323343
>star fox
>major
Kek, it's not mario or zelda anon.
>>333324101
unsourced speculation
>>333324231
No, you're still not understanding. They already have StarFox Zero's budget planned out and all the shit they want to implement. Getting rid of Guard won't affect ANYTHING.
>>333323467
fun times
eeeeyup
>>333324231
Not at all, but that's ok.
>>333324231
>These are resources wasted on Guard regardless of if they planned it
Guard was developed in the Nintendo Garage programme Miyamoto started. It would have been developed mostly outside of normal working hours.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Guard's Credits has a very different set of names of Star Fox Zero outside the art assets.
>>333324231
Okay anon, it was a good impression of a retarded person, you can now stop pretending.
Will there be a demo? The game actually looks like its come a long way since it was first shown last year, but I'm very skeptical of the motion controls.
>>333324231
>Time
It was developed casually, not much of a priority at all
>people
It was basically one of miyamoto's pet projects that only took off steam when it was made into a starfox game
>money
Nintendo are drowning in it
Plus, more resources does not automatically mean a game would be better, if SF0 was felt to have needed more they'd have given it more. Oh, wait, they fucking did when it got delayed anyway.
>>333324345
I don't remember which direct it was (hopefully somebody knows and can source it), but years ago it was revealed Miyamoto was working on "Project Guard" and "Project Giant Hammer" - we still don't know what the latter is but the former became Starfox Guard.
So if the game doesn't do as well will they reboot it again or just give up with Starfox?
>>333296020
It doesn't fucking matter which YOU prefer. You made an argument and were plain wrong.
Less options is ALWAYS a bad thing.
>>333322576
I mean, the graphics are the same, for all you know you're still in the 90s
>>333324731
Just like not using the gamepad in a gamepad-reliant game is ALWAYS a bad thing
>>333324660
I really hope so. A game like this needs one.
>>333324231
Star Fox Guard was a separate team with their own separate budget. All they did was take the Project Guard concept and put Star Fox characters into it. Its existence had absolutely no effect on SF0's budget or dev team.
>>333324730
>Omelets
>Literally just fried eggs
>>333296020
the fun of what? The godawful gamepad minigames that bordered on unplayable?
Drawing your form instead of using the analog stick, which actually worked better?
>>333324929
>I'm so retarded I can't handle simple game pad controls
>>333325117
What controls? The game barely uses gyro for anything, the touch screen is worse than the stick for the wonder forms, and the segments that take place on the gamepad are the worst parts of the entire game.
Other than that the controls themselves are identical.
>>333325223
>the touch screen is worse than the stick for the wonder forms
it's really not though
>>333310227
soon...
>>333324504
You're literally not reading. They shouldn't have done Guard in the first place, then we might have had a good Zero.
>>333325353
>have to take your hand off the combat buttons to imprecisely draw a shape the game has enough trouble recognizing as it is with a stylus or your finger compared to doing it faster with a stick while still being able to use combat buttons
>>333325382
Why haven't they shown much off about the game? I know they're a small team and possibly too focused on getting it finished, but it has me worried as it's one of the only things I'm hyped for.
>>333325468
Guard existing didn't change anything about Zero's budget. What is so hard to understand about that?
>>333325468
Still not how it works.
>>333325468
>let's crank the shitposting to 11
>>333325468
Ok, so you know how Star Fox Zero was in development for a couple of years? And you know how Project Guard was a small project shown at E3 a couple years ago? Alright, so they were separate things for a long time, and when Nintendo decided they could turn Project Guard into a neat little game, they wanted to brand it with one of their franchises so it would sell better. Star Fox happened to be their next upcoming title, so it became a Star Fox game to launch along side Zero. They had nothing to do with each other in terms of budget or development. Whether Guard exists or not changes absolutely nothing about Star Fox Zero.
>>333325570
Take the resoruces wasted on Guard and put it into Zero.
What's so hard to understand about that?
But no, instead we get a half-baked minigame thrown in so they can charge an extra 20% on the price.
>>333311739
Bryce from Spirit Tracks dies from what i remember
>>333325784
>Nintendo is run by psychics
Source for any of this? No? So you've made it up?
Oh, ok then.
>>333325550
I heard they want to keep YL's footage on the downlow, like the old days of vidya development
>>333325802
But Guard's resources and Zero's resources were always separate. Getting rid of Guard would still result in Zero being the same game we're getting.
>>333325861
*byrne
>>333325353
are you baiting
>>333325940
When the hell did I say anything about psychics? Oh, I didn't, and you're just shitposting? Alright then, as long as we're on the same page.
>>333325959
I would be so fucking hype if it's shown E3, I'd probably cry
>>333325802
Then don't buy Guard?
>>333326046
>no one can possibly have a different opinion from mine. He must be baiting, that cur!
>>333325969
*staven
(what the fuck NoE?)
>preordered on amazon for 20% off
>people are still responding to the "Guard ruined development" shitposter
Please stop
>>333325959
Is this in-game? It looks kind of good.
>>333326063
dont get your hopes up for a game so much anonRemember SPORE
>>333291314
>they didn't bring GOAT Slippy voice back
>Gamepad required
Wow
I at least thought it would be shit, but still better than #FE
now it's the worst game on the system
>>333326315
It very likely is, classic rare were wizards at great-looking games.
>>333326385
I didn't care about spore since it's not a genre (or should I say genres for what could've been) that I really like. I think the case is very different with Spore (which was rushed by the publisher) compared to YL (which they can work at in their own pace since it was funded by kickstarter)
>>333326315
I think so.
Its fucking perfect for a hub-world.
>grand ancient library with books acting as the entrance into a world
>book pedestals have their own environment, such as a swamp world having a drippy moldy book with moss and mushrooms growing off of it, or a desert world having a weathered ancient book with sand and scorpions around it
>>333326442
Why do you even own a Wii U then?
Oh, wait, you don't. That's why you're shitposting out of jealousy :^)
>>333326670
That sounds baller. Is it true, or just some thoughts?
>>333326758
Not him but the book thing is just common speculation
>>333326753
so I can play Bayonetta 2 and Hyrule Warriors
even W101, a game filled to the brim with gamepad gimmick shit, let you use the Pro Controller.
>>333321483
I honestly never felt that much sympathy for someone in a video game than Assault General Pepper
The dialogue was brutal in that fight
>>333326758
I wish it was true
>>333326993
Have you been in this thread just to shitpost about that same point over and over?
Wouldn't you rather be playing videogames instead?
What do you think General Pepper's secret is?
>>333327118
>playing video games
what are you, trans?
>>333327202
Yes.
>>333327180
TRANS
>>333327180
he has a secret?
>>333291314
>That huge as fuck Great Fox volley
>Area 6 Leader is back (and apparently survives that, since it's a prequel)
>that Star Wolf duel.
noice
i might get this after all
>>333327118
>Wouldn't you rather be playing videogames instead?
I think you've forgotten where you are.
>>333309232
Have you tried using the boost to chase?
>>333327202
>>333327228
>>333327231
Transmind
>>333327180
Pepper and Andross were roommates back in college.
>>333327259
it's not a prequel, or a sequel really. it's more of a reboot but desu i think it's just a multiverse thing. i've heard of time travel and multiple dimensions coming together for star fox zero, it's probably why there's a corneria2.
>>333327397
So long it doesn't make Assault any less canon. I though the Aparoids were cool Bydo-like antagonists.
>>333327180
secret?
>>333327606
>>333327258
Well. They said they aren't going to be painting him in a less innocent light this time.
Makes me wonder why he fell out with, and banished Andross in the first place.
>>333327595
I haven't played Assault myself, but I do like some I've heard about it. Mainly about being about cleaning up the mess of Andross' remaining forces after he's gone. I mean normally in fiction once you take down the big bad guy every part of his faction might as well be killed that instant as well. But like I said, all I have to go on is what I hear about it.
>>333327882
*are
>>333327932
its a pretty fun game bud
voice acting is cheesy and lighthearted too
>wolf's walker verison looks like a wolf
>>333328293
I do plan on playing it at some point. But I'd like to play 64 and Adventures first so I can form actually informed opinions about them. Only played the original game so far. Zero looks fun though.
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