So this is the power of PC Master Race
woah...
>>333231702
>caring about an FMV "game".
>>333231934
but don't you wanna see cia becoming a big guy, anon?
>Windows 10 exclusive
Based Microsoft. I hope they overtake Valve.
GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE PART TWO, BABY
"Quantum Break is running sub-30 megawatts on LOW settings with a GTX 980 electrolyte processor. :((( "
How do you even enjoy games with this mentality?
I figured it was going to be a performance disaster given they are only going for 720p on Xbox One
game is probably like Alan Wake and requires 4xMSAA to fix the dithering issues caused by alpha to coverage
>>333233464
It's obvious they don't.
It's all about being able to run the game at 120 fps ultra settings for 10 minutes and never play it again.
>>333233464
>how do you enjoy games that run poorly and know why they run poorly?
It'll be okay console pony, now go watch your cartoons.
>>333234438
all you had to do was wait an extra year, then additional time for mods to fix the PC version
Quantum Break on max settings will probably be the best looking game of 2016. Xbox One version is probably the equivalent of low-medium quality, and since the game requires 4xMSAA to be enabled regardless of what setting you're playing at, it's not really a surprise it's gonna require a solid GPU.
>GTX 980
>30fps on low
Or for that money I'll buy an Xbox One, a 4K TV, and some snacks for game night when QB comes out. #ouch
>>333235093
>a 4K TV
>Xbox One
lol
>>333234438
>Games need tu run at 300 FPS and have supreme graphics to be fun
This is a board for people ages eighteen and up. You can read more about this in the FAQ
>>333235129
Native upscaling out of the box unlike PS4 or most mid-range gaming PC's sooo....
>>333235154
>This is a board for people ages eighteen and up
So why are you here?
>>333233464
If you're trying to imply that a game's performance doesn't impact your enjoyment, good bait.
>>333234078
>>333235154
Haha! Good one, guis! xD! Awesome exaggeration meme!
>>333235437
Because it's all about gameplay
>>333235252
One struggles to even run games natively at 1080p but it's going to upscale to 4K no problem! And better than mid range gaming PCs too!!!
>>333235252
>Native upscaling out of the box unlike PS4 or most mid-range gaming PC's sooo....
neither the PS4 nor the Xbox One upscales to 4K, both systems automatically output everything at 1080p, upscaling the image if the native resolution is lower
>>333235605
>>333235767
Not him but I have an Xbox One hooked up to a 40inch 4K TV and it looks and plays fine. Even if it's a stretched 1080p image, it still looks better than most $400 "4K gaming PCs"...
>all these dipshits think that 30fps is acceptable for any game
just fuck off with your 'hurr pc players only care about six million fps and 18k resolutions.' you really sound like children.
pc players are often more into the hobby/interested in tech a lot more than console players. and when i've built a pc i do not want to play a game at 25fps with upscaled graphics and shit. i just dont. i want to make use of my hardware.
you can play your games at poor framerates and enjoy them. i dont care what you play. i couldnt give less of a shit. but if you think 120/60fps doesn't play better than 30, you're just wrong. demonstrably wrong. this is not subjective. get that through your head.
i was interested in QB. if it turns out to be yet another pathetic piece of shit on the windows store, well...one more nail in the coffin for gfwl 2.0, i guess. shit sucks.
>>333235930
>looks and plays fine
It would look and play just the same on a 1080p set.
> it still looks better than most $400 "4K gaming PCs"...
$400 isn't a mid-range gaming PC. Not that you would know what it would look like on either.
>>333233464
>enjoying game is chugging like shit
notice he didn't say "30fps" which is the console standard. He said "SUB" and on low settings.
So the game is looking terrible and still running slow. Does that sound acceptable to you?
>>333231702
games are intentionaly made unoptimised to level the field with consoles
who would buy shitty console hardware if more powerfull PC would run 10 times better?
they try to make 30 fps a new standard for games because their consoles cant run games faster
>>333236210
>get that through your head
Except for when console users *do* get a 60fps game and won't stop jacking themselves off about it. Or worse they complain about it until devs add 30fps lock options or force everyone else to make 30fps (with frequent and severe drops).
>>333235767
upscaling does jack shit
>>333236517
People buy consoles for simplicity, exclusives, and "community" (hey bro add me on psn, xbl). Sadly consoles aren't simple machines anymore.
>turn on xbox
>495mb update
>put game in
>30 - 90 minutes installing it
>gotta download a 1gb update after that
>game's ready but so is dinner
>>333236582
oh man. the very notion that last of us remastered featured a 30fps lock option is fucking mystifying. sure, if you're not a nerd like me i can understand people saying 'i dont notice/care about the 30fps.' that's fine. but when huge mobs of people get vocal with shit like 'the game is better at a shitty framerate! change it for the worse because i don't know what im talking about!' that shit is just spellbinding.
>>333236920
This. Consoles were fun when they were simple and efficient gaming machines. It was fun to collect for them, they had distinct personalities, lots of exclusives.
Consoles aren't fun anymore because now they actually are just shittier versions of gaming PCs.
>>333231702
A lot of people including me thought that having an x86 architecture on current console would make the "porting-to-PC" process much easier, more optimized but instead we the opposite. It's still poorly optimized and the Publisher makes our PCs buffer more superfluous bullshit like Denuvo, Gameworks and Windows Universal application monitoring instead of having faster API calls and better resource management.
Are you surprised?
Nobody gives a fuck abut irrelevant/overpriced pc garbage.You should be grateful that publishers are even bothering with pc in 2016.
PC = dead garbage
>>333237103
>this salt
It's not even on the Windows store yet for me, is it for anyone else?
>>333237264
Yeah all that indie games salt.
PC = mobile quality games
>>333237435
>PC = mobile quality games
The salt.
It flows.
>>333237103
this is the kind of childish nonsense that's so ubiquitous these days. it's just sad.
when gow ue released on win10 recently, it was a mess of a launch. terrible port, problems out the ass, huge system requirements for a 360 game from a decade ago. when a lot of players asked the developers to make the game cross play with xbone (the playlists on win10 had been culled within two weeks because the players base was so small and no one could get a match), a veritable bevy of retards chimed in with comments like 'no! fuck you pc players! gears is a console game! you don't deserve to play it! gtfo pc fuckwits!'
it just fills my head with fuck that you'd be such an exclusionist asshole. why all the hate? when i was a kid i never looked at quake 2's graphics and thought "man fuck those pc gamers! m-my mario game looks better than that anyways *sniff sob*"
i just thought "wow, wish i could play that." why is everyone such a cuntwit these days?
>>333237050
X86 killed the console. There's a reason why vf could run at 60fps despite being the first 3d console game
>>333237435
Consoles = Generic cinematic AAA third person cover shooter garbage
>>333237435
>>333237890
console = actual next gen games with amazing graphics
pc = dead irrelevant youtube console walkthrough platform
>>333234438
>Dark Souls on consoles
>can actually play with people at all times
>Dark Souls on PC
>becomes dead souls instead because it's always fucking dead
>>333238093
How about you post actual real time screenshots and not PR shots?
Alan Wake didn't run very well on PC when it was first released either. It's a lot better now
>>333237421
nah, can't see shit, cap'n
>>333238205
Sure
>>333238205
>real time screenshots
>posts low quality Youtube screencap
Mad as fuck
>>333238205
>real time screenshots
>Youtube video
You are both as bad as eachother.
>>333237725
You're apparently filtering out all the people who did look at games that weren't on their platform of choice and write them off as shit back then. Stupid kids screaming at each other about which console is best is as old as consoles themselves.
>>333231702
yeah
on 4k
>>333231702
>Windows 10 exclusive
>Runs like shit
Hah, you can keep it.
>>333232158
That's what youtube is for.
>>333238975
the difference is that even if you were a retard arguaing that sega is better than nintendo or whatever, everyone -- at least in my experience -- agreed that pc was just miles ahead. it cost a lot more but console graphics could never even touch what was capable on pc.
that same is true today. state of the art pc hardware leaves console in the dust. but for some reason, console players are now very vocal about how their platform is better than pc. this self delusion is really pervasive and i dont understand it.
>>333239326
They're not claiming it's better in hardware terms, no one is doing that even in this thread. They're just claiming the extra PC power doesn't matter, which is pretty much what the reasoning has always been for people who were console loyalists.
If there is any difference, it's probably that people are even more defensive because of the "pc master race / console peasants" thing which was started by PC users.
Man Microsoft is really hitting it out of the park with DX12 here.
>>333239573
that master race thing was started by yahtzee. it was a silly joke that stupid people took seriously. if that is the reason, that is really fucking sad.
i've never gone around posting the phrase 'master race' or anything. i just don't like playing games at sub 30fps anymore. i haven't liked it for more than a decade.
>>333237435
>Posts a 900P Game
kek
Hopefully this ends up fucking Microsoft. Vulkan when.
>>333240498
Its 1080p though.
Why lie? Does it make you feel better?
Haven't all of Remedy's games been total hogs for the time that never caught on like they should until patching/tech creep made them accessible?
>>333240707
It's 900P in single player now as well. Temporal technology. Pausing the video showed obvious 900P stair stepping on pixels.
At best you are hoping for dynamic resolution. Stay mad :)
>>333241029
You got proof of this bro, or just you spewing shit?
>>333240935
Even if this is true I'm pretty sure the first two Max Payne games and Alan Wake didn't run at sub 30 fps on low settings on one of the most powerful cards available.
>>333236979
It's because those people were brainwashed by devs and Sony to believe 60 FPS is bad, because their shit console couldn't hit 60 in anything but remasters.
>>333237050
A lot of people not including you knew it would just make things worse because porting is done with one criterion -- efficiency. If they could do it faster and cheaper, they would. Now that consoles are PCs with custom parts they spend even less time on the porting process.
>>333241225
But they could have done less work before and it would have just ended up as garbage like is what's happening with most games now. It's just the garbage we're getting now is likely better than what would have happened if they didn't really try when the architecture was different.
>>333239678
>M$ tries to pull a hit piece on gaming PC to make Xbox look better
>just makes DX12 look the fool
Heh
So after this and the GoW remaster do people really think Microsoft gives a fuck about treating the PC platform well like they are trying to claim they're doing?
>>333239678
They sure learned a lot from Vista and Haylo2.
>>333239215
For you
>>333241029
Saying lies twice doesn't make them true
>>333236210
As a PC-fag I'm fine with 30 and get actively pissed when people shit on games locked at 30 inherently without first taking the time to figure out why a game is 30 or something. Quantum Break has no excuse so I fully expect people to be upset and would support that, but then you have people that shit on games like Final Fantasy Type 0 without an understanding of why the game is locked at 30 and why unlocking it and having it higher is a ridiculous request and venture. 60 and great and the higher the better, and for Quantum Break it has no excuse for having such a shitty framerate, but you've got to have perspective and some people forget that.
>>333231702
>he downgraded to Windows 10 to play this shit
>>333242367
>without first taking the time to figure out why a game is 30 or something
If the game was designed like that, the devs are asshats. If it's an issue with things being tied to the framerate then the devs are incompetent and should probably go learn how to make games again. There is no excuse for framerate locks on PC. Even locks at 60 fps.
>>333237103
I dunno anon, I'm having fun with the PC. Lot of cool games coming out soon on it.
>htol#NiQ
>Danganronpa 2: Goodbye, Despair
>God Eater Ressurection
>God Eater 2: Rage Burst
>Criminal Girls: Invite Only
>Monster Monpiece
>OneShot
>Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
>>333242609
Aren't all of those old console games?
>One guy on twitter is claiming low settings
>Guy on twitch streaming right now is getting 1440p/60FPS with same config
twitch /bikeman
>Neofag loses again
>>333242494
>If the game was designed like that, the devs are asshats.
Its a sign that the devs sometimes lack foresight. Designing a game like that is bad practice and bad design. But if it was done, and then such a game is ported, there is absolutely no reason to expect the game to have a higher framerate. People act as if such games shouldn't be ported at all, which makes no sense since more games on a platform is always better. It can't be fixed, so why do people go out of their way to complain in the first place? Why would anyone EVER expect a port of a game who's internal logic and gameplay mechanics were tied to framerate to ever be higher than what it was on the original system? It boggles my mind.
>>333242789
Excluding OneShot, which has always been on PC, yes. None of them are old, though I guess a few of them have already been released on consoles in the past. But some of them haven't even come out in the West in any capacity yet. They're just my most hyped for PC games.
>>333238093
>using bullshots to try and make a point
>>333242890
The issue is that games shouldn't be designed like that anymore. It's an entirely outdated practice but it seems like Japan still does it for some stupid reason and refuse to change. If an old game comes to PC and has a lock then sure, I'm usually fine with that, but if a game in 2016 comes to PC and has a framerate lock that is an issue the devs have and they should stop living in the 90s.
>gears of war shits the bed on release
>quantum break shits the bed on release
microsoft literally makes the os it's released on how hard is it
>>333242890
>People act as if such games shouldn't be ported at all
Jap games honestly should stay the fuck away from PC. They don't do anything right at all. They're ports of old games. They don't have any video options, or very arbitrary ones at best. With the exception of MT Framework games, they all have frame caps. They barely run right. And finally, only the shitty, unwanted games get ported to PC.
>>333233464
>this is the kind of person who buys shit like Bloodborne and thinks it runs fine
>>333235930
>it still looks better than most $400 "4K gaming PCs"...
LOL
Fucking faggot
>>333240498
wait, it isn't a real life picture?
>>333243805
>only the shitty, unwanted games get ported to PC
Says you. I can't stop running out of new games to play. Don't assume your taste fits others.
And there's nothing wrong with porting old games. They were games that should've been there to begin with. Better late than never, since it means people have more good games to play. Yeah, a lot of the ports arent' all that great, but that just needs they need to get better, not stay away. They'll never learn if they don't even try. And its not as if they aren't getting better. Lightning Returns is one of the best PC ports I've ever seen done, with a huge list of video options, finally no launcher but actual in game setting changes (and some actually meaningful setting changes, like changing how the lighting in the game works), etc, all with no FPS drops. And then for older games, Disgaea PC had a shaky initial launch but now its a solid port with a large amount of video options. They're getting better, and to push them away now would undo any progress that's been made.
>>333244104
I don't understand why if you want to play decade old Japanese games you even play on PC.
And it's been 4 years since Dark Souls started this trend and most Japanese PC ports are still shit. How long do you want people to wait? 10 years? 20? The devs you're talking about, at least most of them, don't care about the quality of their ports and aren't going to get better. Especially because they know there are people like you that will buy their garbage regardless of how bad it is and rationalize it in some way.
i think OP is talking about running the game at 4K. there is just no way to get a pc with recent processors, ram and a 980 to run fucking anything at 30fps at 1080. you'd have to actively be trying to kneecap your game or monstrously retarded to get this result.
i have a 980 and everything i play at 1080 gets more than 60fps no problem.
if the tweet is talking about 4K, then sure, 30fps seems about right. 4K is a meme resolution. you need a fucking titan or 980ti sli to get 4K 60+fps.
this is not surprising or disappointing at all, considering, of course, he IS talking about 4K.
>>333244441
>you'd have to actively be trying to kneecap your game or monstrously retarded to get this result.
We're talking about Microsoft, aren't we?
>>333243021
>None of them are old
>DR2 has been out since 2012
>Monster Monopiece has been out since early 2013
>>333242609
So excited for old Vita titles lol.
>>333242609
>playing Monster Monpiece on PC
how do you even rub the girls?
>>333244674
heh, i knew someone would make this joke.
yes, microsoft are mind blowingly moronic and produce terrible products. i mean, they're not a fucking day spa corporation. they don't run a sandwich shop. they're a software company, and their software is kind of terrible. the windows store is a laughing stock.
even with this said, i just don't see how anyone could get this game running as low as 30fps on a 980. it's basically not possible. the tweet HAS to be about 4K. it has to be.
>>333231702
>sub 30 fps like consoles
>on a GTX 980
hahahahHAHAHAHAAH
>>333244920
I imagine its gonna have the mouse count as touch controls in a similar way to how DS emulators work.
>>333244697
>2012
>old
And the game was never playable in English until 2014.
>>333244384
I dunno. I've seen improvements over time. Dark Souls 3 at least appears to be the best version yet, with it already confirmed for being 60FPS. Games are finally being announced for PC before they even come out in the West on anything. (see God Eater and the upcoming Tales games for example)
As for the reasoning for why...Its cheap and is almost always an improvement over the console versions. Why buy new hardware for a game over and over when I can just wait for a port? No need to buy expensive hardware constantly, and typically the games are at least compatible with higher res versions than their console counterparts. So its cheaper and better, regardless of the quality of the port most of the time. Plus it has more longevity; consoles and handhelds die out and get replaced, but the PC has no expiration date.
>>333233464
Obvious b8 but:
The point is that at around 20fps (it's not literally 20fps, but it's somewhere around there) the brain realizes that what it's looking at isn't a moving thing, but a series of images, and it breaks your immersion with the game, and allows response between your input and what happens on screen.
So getting the frame rate to run consistently at higher than 20 means that when the game has fluctuations in frame rate, it's less likely that you'll drop below that ~20fps point.
So, while getting the game to run at incredibly high frame rates isn't the most important thing in the world, the higher the games average frame rate, the more players will be able to play the game smoothly.
The fact that the game runs so poorly on what is apparently a powerful PC isn't a good sign, and it means that the developers need to spend more time optimizing so players can actually play their game, let alone worry about 120fps 4k HD.
TL;DR High FPS= smooth gameplay, smooth gameplay = happier players.
>>333243021
Thats cool bro, I didn't mean anything by it, was just wondering.
Enjoy your games bro.
>>333231702
thank you based phil
i love you
