Are any of the MGS games after 4 worth playing?
>>333148506
TPP is fun if you enjoy fun
don;t expect a story, but hell, it's fun
PW and TPP are great, gameplay-wise.
>>333148506
the phantom pain , but not for the story believe it or not.
but if you're still somewhat interested in the story, I recommend you watch cutscenes and listen to some of the more essential cassette tapes of peace walker on YouTube and ground zeroes on YouTube as well if you don't want to buy both mgsv games, it's probably super cheap by now though.
>>333149874
GZ is super cheap on PSN until the 6th. We're talking 5 bucks.
>>333149717
not a lot of people have patience for peace walker, specially if op's a newcomer and is just blasing through the mainline games.
>>333149982
>not a lot of people have patience for peace walker
A shame, it's such a good game once you go past the PSP limitations. And it lookspretty goodon the PS3.
>>333148506
no
Maybe revengance
Maybe
>>333150698
yea maybe but not as a metal gear title
sure it was fun, but just not right :/
Peace Walker was a lot of fun. It was a great Big Boss simulator and I forgive the mission list structure because it's meant for a portable console.
It also has a finale that makes GZ and TTP completely unnecessary except for the Zero tapes.
>>333148506
Not really. Just take TPP as not related to MGS and you'll probably have fun though. PW is ok but that's just it, ok.
>>333148506
Nope.
My suggestion is to stop at 4.
Kojima should had done that.
How do I play mgs3 on my compooter?
Once I download the emulator program where do I get the game? And some places say I need a bios but I dont know because im a retard. Give me a point in the right direction please.
>>333153920
It's one of the hardest games to emulate and it never turns out quite right. You should probably just suck it up and buy a Playstation.
>>333148506
GZ
More fun and challenging than TPP
TPP is SUPER REPETITIVE
Short answer: no.
Ignore the millenials with no taste.
>>333148506
no. PW and 5 are at the bottom of my MGS tier list
It depends what you're after OP, but if your primary concern is good gameplay then Ground Zeroes and TPP are absolutely worth playing. For all of TPP's disappointments, it's still full of great ideas and is more creative than 99% of the videogaming dross out there.
>>333155624
lol please
>>333148506
>>333148506
>another "le MGSV is bad" meme spouter
>>333152390
>:/
Greetings, Reddit.
>>333154856
Yeah, the game that unless you play it over and over you'll finish in 1 hour is not repetitive at all.
No.
all of them are good and better than 4and 2
TPP and GZ are great. People here only shit on it because the story doesn't have enough cutscenes and it isn't linear enough
>>333150173
That's the power of good art direction.
>>333152478
My only grievance with PW's mission structure is that it went criminally underutilized. You could have had any objective on any map, and what do they fill the mission list with? Vehicle battles. Vehicle battles and boring training missions for skills and objectives that you never use for real.
Where are the Perfect Stealth challenges?
Where are the mission with preset or restricted equipment?
Where are the more complex objectives?
Where are the missions where the usual starting and exit points have been swapped so you tackle the areas backwards?
They could have easily made a "mission pack" of hundreds of these missions and I for one wouldn't have even minded paying for it.
>>333159375
Kill yourself
>>333148506
PW has a fun story and okay gameplay (it's a little simplistic because it was made for PSP), but TPP has better gameplay with an okayish story.
>4
>Worth playing
>>333154725
It's a damn shame, too. Some of my favorite games for PS2 don't emulate right.
>>333162785
MGS2 and MGS3 work perfectly though without any hassle or configuring, fix your PC.
>>333148506
I just bought TPP and the gameplay is really fun. Story takes a backseat and Kojima just lets the player go nuts on how to rebuild the legend of Big Boss
>>333148506
MGR was fun if it counts
PW and TPP are the best Metal Gear games. Followed by MGS1 and MGS3.
MGS2 and 4 are shit.
>>333163987
Here's a (You).
>>333164152
Oh yea, I meant GZ. PW is shit.
>>333148506
Rising Revengeance is pretty good
>>333152478
Peace Walker's core gameplay is fun, but fuck literally every boss.
It becomes "Damage Sponge: The Game."
>>333152976
To be honest, they should've stopped at 2. Everything after that was just excessive.That being said, 3 was my favorite.
The only reason people have fond memories of MGS2 is they played it when they were 10.
It was received worse than TPP because of the awful plot and the fact half the shit in the trailer wasn't in the game. At least TPP is a 100+ hour game, MGS2 is a few hours at best.
Both have shit storylines.
>>333163987
Retard.
MGS2>MGSV>MGS3>MGS4=MGSPW>MGS1
>>333162496
I hated 4 personally but I would still say it's worth playing, as cringey as it was at least it gives a climax to the rest of the series.
The tactical stealth operations games went on to explain some of the more random shit in mgs4 anyway
Yes, replay 2
>>333148506
TPP is wonderful, though not really a metal gear game.. I mean yeah it shares the same characters but you don't really get the story you did from previous games.
>>333164537
>MGSV not being at the absolutely bottom of the list
>>333164679
Why would the game with the best gameplay be last?
>>333164503
2 perfected the top down fixed camera formula. It had the best gameplay except for V, which had a completely different type of gameplay.Also anyone who had any trouble with fat guy on rollerskates was a retard who didn't realize you could run and shoot at the same time, he was the easiest boss in the series
>>333164765
even if you ignore mgsv's retarded story, boring and bland level design, repetitive missions, it's still fundamentally broken as a game. literally ever mission you do, you are doing everything identical. every outpost you infiltrate is performed the same.
mgs2's gameplay is the best in the series. completing the VR missions is genuinely fun and challenging.
>>333148506
Peace Walker is fun unless you decide to play it on PSP
>>333164853
Did anyone actually have trouble with Fatman?
If we're talking easiest bosses, I feel like the Pain in MGS3 is retarded easy. You literally fight around water, which invalidates all of his attacks and he doesn't do a whole lot of moving compared to most bosses.
>>333164679
>he plays video games for story and not gameplay
>>333148506
I enjoyed Peace Walker. It's not bad IMO, but it's not great either.
TPP has bar-none the best gameplay. It also has one of the worst stories. I'd still play it.
GZ is skippable, not really worth more than $5.
TPP is terrible, dont bother
ive been a MGS fan since the first, and god damn TPP is the absolute worst one in the series
No. MGS4 has the best gameplay in the series as well. It's just the core MGS gameplay evolved and perfected. The PSP games and GZ/TPP are shit and MGS in name only. Literally all the "advanced" CQC from 4 is gone in 5.
>>333164537
More like:
MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGS4=MGSPW=MGS5
MGS3 is the worst in the series, so yes.
>>333165331
>the worst
absolutely kill yourself. MGS3 and anything involving Big Boss was the greatest story, Solid Snake is just a clone.
>>333165428
solid snake has better games
and a better personality
but i do love mgs3
PW and V meh-alright
Revengeance is bretty gud if you don't hate platinum
>>333165428
Fuck off Kojima you fucking hack
>>333165230
I'll never understand why people like MGS3 better than 2. They had everything perfected and then they went full retard with 3 and fucked it all up.
The original had such a fucked up fixed camera that they had to add a third person mode in the later version.
The third person mode essentially made the game play like shitty splinter cell.
The transition from close quarters "urban" environments to more open areas changed the stealth from
>tense, close to enemies, relying on breaking line of sight and timing your movements to get passed enemies
To
>slow, boring, now focused on slowly crawling around enemy line of sight using camouflage and/or grass and the large areas.
>>333165502
I disagree.
Big Boss's entire personality was based off the fact that he hated big government and how they ruined his life by making him fight an endless war.
He hated the mission, but he had a duty to uphold it.
Solid Snek was all about killing the perceived "Bad Guy" which, depending on how you look at the series, it could be argued that the team Snake fought for was the bad guy all along. I personally think his character is bland in comparison
>>333165201
>Literally all the "advanced" CQC from 4 is gone in 5.
Ground humping and crotch grabbing? Am I missing anything else?
>>333165735
Muh james bond and snake eater, I always felt 3 was a step down from 1 and 2.
>>333165736
fair enough
but imo nothing can beat the cold personality of solid snake in mgs1
>>333165823
This, I played both, it's not like 4 had good CQC. It was slow and felt like shit to use and was animated poorly. There's nothing you actually used in 4 that didn't make it into V
MGS3>MGS1>MGS2>MGSVGZ>MGS4=MGSVTTP=MGSPW
>>333165823
Lots of gameplay mechanics were dumbed down or removed.
>can't play dead
>can't latch onto ledges and hang down from prone position
>can't lean over a ledge and aim directly underneath from prone position
>can't do dat octopus full body choke
>can't sneak on your toes while prone
>can't forward roll
>can't sidestep
>can't stand on your toes in first person mode
>can't lean to either side in first person mode
Can't do shit. And this is just what's on top of my head.
>>333165428
Get fucked, child.
MGS3 turned a proper arcade-stealth series into a dull game of crawl-and-tranq-in-the-head. The story was easily the worst of the original trilogy. The villains weren't interesting or cool, the supporting cast was trash, etc.
Oh, and don't forget how fun it was to go into the menu every 2 minutes to change your camo or change an item or eat a pile of shit you found on the ground.
Muh Boss, muh patriotism, abloobloo. The story was painfully simplified because people were complaining that MGS2 made no sense (mainly a fault of gamers being illiterates that can't recognize anything in a story that isn't directly spoonfed to them). What's worse is that it completely fucked up MGS by introducing BB as a main character, and then focusing the rest of the goddamn entries on him.
PW, GZ and TPP were far superior games, and even the stories weren't that much worse. Ground Zeroes in particular, as a singular entity, is excellent.
Oh, and anyone who thinks The End was a good boss battle is a fucking faggot and should probably be exiled to the nearest forest forever.
>>333167029
>people were complaining that MGS2 made no sense (mainly a fault of gamers being illiterates that can't recognize anything in a story that isn't directly spoonfed to them)
This is *exactly* the case with Final Fantasy VIII as well.
>>333166776
>CQC
>>333166776
CQC was dumb as fuck anyway, who seriously cares?
>>333164384
All story related boss fights (vehicle and robo) are easy peasy as long as you have put the bare minimum effort into R&D. The only exception might be Peace Walker itself, but it's the final boss of the story, what do you expect?
For ExtraOps, you are right though. Those are just silly.
>>333167865
Am I the only one that thought them using Close Quarters Combat as the name of their hand to hand really dumb?
It's not even a name, it's literally what it is.
>>333168801
The main mech bosses were pretty fun the first time, but the tanks and copters, while easy, were just tedious as shit.Though admittedly, my main explosive weapon was the RPG, I'm guessing the Gustav was much more effective?
>>333158205
That's a good thing. At unless you don't have to keep going into the same areas extracting Prisoner 1-23 over and over again like TPP
Seriously though the other objectives provided for you in the Side Ops are a lot of fun and make things more interesting than what we see in V
>>333165736
>implying
Big Boss WANTED to keep fighitng. He "is a gun". That was the whole point of Outer Heaven and Motherbase. To fight against the Ptriots and the powers that be to maintain loyalty to his fellow soldiers. Not to mention he is the best at everything and anything ever and still crying about The Boss 20 years later
Snake is more flawed and less idealized character which already puts him over everyone else who was obsessed with the Midol infused ramblings of The Boss
>>333168229
The features listed there are major ones that affect gameplay. MGS5 feels dull and watered down in comparison. You can't even roll in that game.
There's no hope for future Kojima games. If they produce shit with a massive team and unlimited resources while they were with Konami, whatever they crap out with a lesser publisher will be shit.
>>333166776
>can't play dead
wow, wrong from the start. nice
>>333169170
The CG is relatively weaker but has an insanely fast projectile speed, making it easier to hit with.
>>333148506
MGS hasn't had a good boss fight since 4
>>333164947
>you are doing everything identical. every outpost you infiltrate is performed the same.
The game gives you a billion options to do approach it however you want, who's fault is it that you're a boring person?
>>333166776
To be fair first person leaning and toe standing was made redundant with the cover system
>>333170295
Some might even say that with the exception of The End, Kojima has been desperately trying to make the MGS1 FOXHOUND lightning strike twice, but to no success.
