Since /v/ is going crazy with the old ass Baldur's Gate
Let's have a comfy thread about the old ass Arcanum
literally the only good steampunk thing ever made
>>333128278
>sheep in the back
is this an Irish game
>>333128463
The Tech side is a bit underpowered though
I hear there was a mod that balance it out but I can't find it and terra-arcanum is temporarily down.
>>333128826
You can fuck the sheep, if that's what you're asking.
>>333128278
Just finished this game last night for the first time. Its probably one of my favorite games now. Too bad we never got that Journey to the Center of Arcanum game, that would have been pretty great.
>>333128606
They made three legendary games and perished
F
How come this game and Fallout1/2 has some nice violent gibbings and nice squishy sounds when it happens
Like when you kill a wolf in 1 hit it literally get's cut in half.
or when you point blank burst fire someone in FO1/2 you get to see them lose their arms and head with each burst. Even a fucking Deathclaw dies like that.
Or when you use the laser guns you can cut even Super Mutants in half.
Also every attack that connects makes a satisfying squishy sound.
Are the other games like Baldur's Gate and PS:T like this too?
>>333129960
All the Infinity Engine games have great gibbing.
So does Pillars of Eternity.
>>333128278
>>333130186
I turned the gibbing off in PoE.I also turned the game off.
>>333128278
>playing as a dumb half-ogre
>dat dialogue
>>333128826
DELETE THIS
>>333130323
Pillars is considerably better after all the patches and the expansion.
More content and has actual AI scripting and profiling now.
>>333130241
"normal" means "most common" not "right"
stupid
mother
fuckers
>>333129960
I cut my head off in Arcanum with that Filament Blade you find (head went flying off and all)
Critical failure is a bitch
>>333130759
>and has actual AI scripting and profiling now
This was the most perplexing thing for me when playing the game. IWD had scripting and here we have a similarly designed tactical rpg without it? I realize you have to cut stuff you'd like to put in but higher difficulties were just so tedious with the amount of micromanaging. I was thinking about by the white marches when both parts came out and going back. I hope they become a bit more ambitious in terms of writing and encounter design for them.
>>333130759
I know, before th e expansions I would always get bored when I got to Twin Elms.
I've since started White March part 1, but i still feel like I'm forcing myself to play it.
>was carrying too much weight
>decided to hand Virgil and Sogg some of my shit
>traveling around Morbihan to see if there's some hidden shit
>discover Kree
>killed some barbarians
>ran into the altar room
>aggroed loads of barbarians
>die like a bitch
>before I reload I decide to watch Virgil, Sogg and Jayna to see if they can handle the mooks
>they fucking do
>suddenly Virgil resurrects me
>one of the shit I gave him was actually a Rez scroll
that was fucking surprising. I didn't knew the AI were smart enough to use those shit.
>>333128278
Is this game still available? I've never played it. Abandonware or for sale?
>>333132362
GoG.yes i'm still in this dead thread.
>>333128958
>tech side
>underpowered
literally what
>charge rings
>balanced swords
>free molotovs
>magnetic top hat
>PYROTECHNIC "I'M FUCKING YOUR FAKE MAGICIAN ASS" AXE
>>333132362
GoG has it
Great story and writing
Combat is so so
If it had good combat, it'd be the best cRPG around.
>>333132362
It's on GOG. Wouldn't spend money on it though, with troika being dead and all.
do i play in real time or turn based?
how do you get the 'kingdom of god' chieve in age of decadence?
i did a merchant playthrough but could only blow it up or do a new world order
>>333132713
Real time against slow enemies, turn based otherwise. Combat is horrible either way.
>>333132713
turn-based. Only switch it to real time to speed up the process of busting down doors/containers (ps you can punch any structure or golem down at the expense of some hp. PYROTECHNIC AXES can also destroy structures and golems without losing durability).
>>333132559
mages get harm on lvl 1
>>333132650
Who even gets the money when this happens? Does Gog just pocket 100%?
>>333132968
and you can also get molotovs and balanced swords relatively early. I forgot to mention free heals with salves since herbs are all over the place.
>>333133070
Whoever owns the ip gets a cut, it's not like it suddenly became public domain. gog gets a cut for the convenience of you being able to dl it whenever. Wait for a sale or just pirate it.
>>333133078
Which you have to individually craft in advance using materials you literally fish out of trash cans, while mages just have to take a little nap to get all their mojo back.
I'm not saying they aren't fun to play, they totally are. Plus if you're playing a steampunk game it'd be a waste not to play a steampunk technologist. But the devs totally dropped the ball on balancing the two sides.
>>333128463
I disagree.BioShockwas good too.
Arcanum really is a great game, with a great story, great environment, and just plaincomfy.
>>333132650
Do you really think devs working under a publisher get money per each copy sold? They're paid a fix amount. If you want to pirate, pirate. No need to make excuses for it.
>>333132559
If you actually played the game you would know how terrible tech is compared to magic. Set your speed to 10, get haste and you can spam harm literally any encounter in the game without even getting touched. And when I say literally I mean literally. It's fucking retarded how broken the game gets when you use haste and maxed speed stat.
>>333131929
Stories like this makes me want to reinstall.
>>333133070
Last I heard activision owned publishing rights. Didn't they die too?
>>333133524
>"you haven't played the game" meme
I really fucking hate this shit. I loved this game, and I especially loved being a steampunk knight destroying everything with my pyrotechnic axe. I know magic was OP as fuck as well, but so were a lot of aspects of this game. I just got the biggest kick out of being the ultimate fedora-lord.
fucking shame they had to divide between tech and magic
You could have been a fucking gun wizard shooting magic bullets
>>333133327
>BioShock
>steampunk
nigga it's dieselpunk
>>333133965
dont worry anon when i find a briefcase full of money and start making my dream crpg you can mix magic and tech
>>333134309
Just make it a porn steampunk game and start raking in the Patreon bux. Flash your tits and/or ass while you're at it for extra $$$
i've never played any of these CRPGs like baldur's gate, icewind dale etc. i haven't even played any of the diablo games.
where do i start
>>333134798
Baldur's Gate or Fallout are good starts
>>333134798
icewind dale for getting used to crpg combat
fallout for roleplay and combat
>>333134798
Why not start with Arcanum then. It's it's own thing.
>>333134873
>icewind dale
He wants to get into cRPGs not dungeon crawlers.
>>333134872
BG is not that beginner friendly. Having to learn an entire ruleset before playing the game sucks for many players. Fallout's combat, on the other hand, is much simpler (for better or worse) which imo makes it a better beginner crpg
>>333135271
The rules are easy though. Lower AC is better and lower THAC0 is better. I know jack shit about DnD and can play through them fine. They have great manuals too.
>>333135405
>manuals
....nigga.
>>333135508
They come in pdf format too. No excuse
>>333135629
>having to read manuals is beginner friendly
>>333135659
He's going to have to learn to read if he plays CRPGs. Besides he'll need to know the general rules for all the other DnD games.
>playan arcanum
>attack pig because its fucking with some dude's farm
>HEY WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING SUCH DECENT FOLKS
why did i even bother with this faggot?
>>333134798
fallout 1.
Id actually recommend Planetescape as a way to get the feel of D&D, as there isnt much combat
>>333131156
It's obvious PoE was rushed in every department. They literally used the first script draft, for god's sake. In a story-heavy RPG.
>>333128606
>Bloodlines flopped so badly it sold under 80k copies until going digital when we lose all track
>all Troika's subsequent pitches to publishers failed
>management realized it wasn't going anywhere
>chose to close earlier so they could pay their employees proper severances and medical insurance
Even in death Troika was amazing.
Looks old and dumb. I fucking hate nostalgia fags
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>>333136454
Ignore obvious b8
you're not actually supposed to just walk across the map right? I SHOULD be teleporting to my objectives right? I'm talking right from the beginning. The wolves rape me otherwise.
>>333135271
It is beginner friendly. For it's time. Problem is everyone got so used to hand holding since those days and god forbid you have to actually learn something to play the game properly. Everything MUST be intuitive and obvious.
>>333136506
walk out into the wilderness until your map icon turns into a blue globe, then you can actually travel to places. eventually mages can teleport or you can take a train
That's right goy, you want that Ogre cock.
>>333136502
Is Oddworld Dieselpunk?
I actually dislike the use of Steampunk when describing Arcanum. To me Steampunk is a fantasy realm where Victorian era tech has evolved beyond what history has already gotten to. It's Sci-Fi but using the 1900s as the frame.
With Arcanum it's more a fantasy setting set at the industrial revolution, there is nothing truly ridiuclous when it comes to technology and so i dislike the term Steampunk to Arcanum.
Look I am drunk and would like some (you's).
>>333136546
I don't think I agree. Most games released in 1988 didn't actually require the player to memorize the manual. Games like FF Tactics and Starcraft were easy enough to pick up without reading anything. It's just IE games because they're tied to that tabletop ruleset
>>333137049
But they don't require you to read the manual. I know I sure as fuck didn't and I knew nothing about D&D back when I first played BG1. Just read and think about what you're reading instead of skimming over.
if I want the *best experience* right from the get-go, do I need any mods?
just bought it, been meaning to try it for years
>>333137195
Check this out.
http://www.shsforums.net/topic/33528-arcanum-unofficial-patch-extras/?s=939c72e7377917b07e022f028f7ead5b
>>333137195
There's a mega fan mod that fixes heaps of stuff/unlocks non mirrored sprites and possible balances some stuff too
>Here are the coin
Dropped.
I loved the shit out of Arcanum.
Tho, 10 years later, i still have no clue on some of the abbreviations they used to make.
Or some story hooks, if anything.
It's good to have these options (Like at Bates; either help him or sabotage the engine) but who'd purposefully act like a dick? Also, the whole gang stuff in the Tarant outskirts.
I remember teleport and disintegrate spells monopolizing my playthrough.
>>333128826
The Welsh are the sheepfuckers lad
t, leprechaun
>>333136434
The official patch was made by employees who stayed on working without pay just because they loved the game so much. It's a fucking tragedy too because they were within a hairs breadth of getting Fallout before Bethesda snatched it out from under them.
>>333137132
I didn't really *understand* AD&D's mechanics until I actually started reading about them; maybe that's just me, though.
I still think Fallout is a much more beginner friendly rpg than any D&D-based game and that's what I'll keep recommending
>>333137517
>>333136434
Troika sure was a martyr.
I hate how you can count the encounters with enemy magic users on one hand.
>>333131929
Yeah, the first time your follower resurrects you is fucking amazing. Then again, Virgil also did lotsa retarded shit like trying to heal Magnus until he would run out mana. Another awesome moment is when you learn there's actual use for second tier spell from dark necromancy.
Also I don't understand why fags complain about the lack of balance between magic and technology. Of course magic is more powerful, it's fucking magic.
>>333136506
>tfw spending hours walking to town on first playthrough
>>333138121
Part of the lore though is that the magic of the world is being usurped by technology
>>333137362
Someone who wanted to roleplay? The game is built around choices like few games ever have been. What I love about Tim Cain and the people at Troika is they basically set up the world and then asks themselves how a player would go about breaking the game with the possible choices availible to them. Then instead of taking their ball and going home like Bethesda does preventing the player from ever making any "problematic" decisions they reward the people that get creative. That's how a game should be made. Reward people for thinking outside of the box instead of railroading them. Arcanum may be the best example of that design philosophy in any game ever made.
>>333138159
why on earth would you do that? theres literally nothing but trees
>>333133327
Bioshock was trash, just System Shock 2 with worse writing, voice acting, level design, gameplay and a movement speed like wading through molasses.
>killing everyone and using necromancy to progress
Such a cool feature.
Fuck, you got me. Reinstalling.
What are some interesting, lesser known builds, good for say a gnome or a halfling character?
if i wanna learn about the worlds lore before rolling a character, like learning about orcs and gnomes and shit, would reading the manual suffice? does it take place in its own universe?
>>333138696
Throwing weapons are pretty awesome but often overlooked.
>tfw you go into a library, find a book about orcs and spend half an hour reading a debate about eugenics and whether orcs and half-orcs can or should be treated as equals to the other races.
>>333138937
I could use that ran away to join the circus backstory
>>333138836
Yeah it's it's own thing. Vaguely Tolkienesque but really built on it's own foundations. Most of the games lore is built into the game itself gradually revealed or implied through your various encounters and explorations. It's a really well built world though. It's got it's own pantheons, histories and conspiracies. It's a fucking shame we never got journey to the center of Arcanum. I would have liked to have seen more.
>>333132572
I'd say the same thing about Planescape. To be honest this has way better combat than Planescape, but Planescape was still a better experience for me.
The combat isn't too bad imo.
>you will never get to expose the truth about half ogre island
>>333139461
>You will never get to see the disgusting porn they probably made at Half-Ogre Island.
WHY CAN'T I FUCKING RETURN TO THE ISLE OF DESPAIR
FUCK THIS SHIT THE DWARF SAID TO CHECK OUT MY BOAT AND FUCKING BLACKBEARD DRAGS ME BACK TO ASHBURY
I HAVEN'T FINISHED THE FUCKING QUESTS THERE
REEEEEEEEE
>>333133327
bioshock 2 was good. 1 and infinite blow.
>>333142439
! was good until the reveal. It just didnt have enough steam to continue afterwards. 2 wasn't as strong at its best point but was better at sustaining itself. The highs werent as high but the lows were nowhere near as low. Minerva's Den was God Tier. Infinite was retarded.
>>333130296
give me more art like this
>>333136927
(You) for truth
WHY DON'T TOP HATS APPEAR ON CHARACTERS
Is there a build that rewards me for wearing suits instead of armour?
Arcanum was shit though. The writing was good, granted, but the combat sucked and nothing was even remotely balanced.
>>333143706
>The writing was good, granted, but the combat sucked and nothing was even remotely balanced
Like every cRPG?
>>333130759
Pillars has the most atrocious pathfinding and party AI during combat I've ever encountered among isometric games. Almost cried yesterday after the pain of beating PATCHED PoE recently upon watching a BG1 video where 6 characters neatly assembled around an enemy they were ordered to attack. No getting stuck endlessly trying to pass through an npc in front of them or running around from one npc to another because they won't let him pass. Fuck Obshitian and fuck Unity.
>>333143607
suits are lighter so you can go faster
>>333128278
>Let's have a comfy thread about the old ass Arcanum
Ok.
Who gnome master race here?
>>333143607
Not really.If you wear a suit you can wear heavier weapons and have more garbage in your inventory.
