I'm a little late to the party but just veat this game.
Am I missing something or this guy is supposed to have STRONG arguments to be the good guy of this game? I mean he convinced me.
Lol anarchy lmao.
>Anarchy is good
Kill yourself anytime.
>>333078494
>muh survival of the fittest
>muh social darwinism
>muh fuck the poor
You didn't miss anything- they tried to give him a coherent stance, but if you agree that just makes you a /pol/-tier edgemeister.
You have my condolences.
STANDING
all shit aside I know what you mean OP
>guy makes solid argument for his actions and future intentions
>he has to break a few eggs to make this omelette, it won't be pretty
>'uhhh YOU'RE CRAZY!' , this is supposed to convince you he's wrong and you're playing as the right guy
>>333078494
All civilisation is derived from the rule of law, everything else is arab tier
>>333080172
Jim Jones had a "solid argument" for 1000 people too.
>>333079967
Pussy
So I was really enjoying this game. No bullshit, the Platinum influence didn't ruin anything, lots of action over and over. But then halfway through the game, it took a massive nosedive, and I had to force myself to keep playing. What the hell was up with them just hamfisting memes into the dialogue? It was a atrocious, it was like a fat person trying to jam two jigsaw pieces together from completely different puzzles. They would just mention memes for no reason, they didn't even bring up any particular, not even troll face. It was fucking embarrassing, a clear example of the Japanese trying and failing to handle a Western concept, and I can't recommend the game to anyone because of it.
>>333080172
>you now realise raiden's response to that line was pretty much "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?"
>>333080608
if you're shitposting on a video game imageboard for manchildren, most likely you're not the sort of alpha male required to survive in that society and you'd be the first one to die
>>333080756
What do you base that conclusion on
>>333078494
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
>>333080863
because you're on 4chan right now talking about video games instead of doing something productive
>>333080751
It's funny because Rose cucked Raiden with the Colonel for all those years until she was like "it was for protection from the patriots xDDD"
>>333078494
He did literally NOTHING wrong. Too bad Raiden is such a leftist.
>>333080756
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED HIM TO WIN
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I CAN'T KILL MYSELF
>>333081007
So I can't do what I want with my free time to relax, I have to be productive at all times? That sounds more beta tbqhwyf. I worked to afford this free time.
>>333080658
>They would just mention memes for no reason, they didn't even bring up any particular, not even troll face
I stopped reading here
Raiden is a fucking dragon
Monsoon has a cross on his chest, Raiden has a dragon on his.
Literally Raiden is the devil.
>>333080936
>How do you keep winning all the time?
>Nanomachines Son
>>333080658
It's actually my favorite platinum game.
I really enjoy playing it.
People who think Armstrong is right think "The Purge" is a fucking masterpiece of politics,
>>333081021
Jack the ripper, more like Jack the cuck
It's like pottery
>>333081093
Metal gear is pretty leftist
>>333080172
He is crazy, and if you don't realize he's crazy then you're stupid. Armstrong's plan, assuming he actually legitimately believes it, hinges on humans no longer being humans.
>>333081093
>only leftists oppose caveman retard anarchy
hurr
>>333078494
Donald Trump: The Character
>>333081093
Well, ripping kids brains out of their bodies and turning them into soldiers was a bit evil.
>>333081542
Raiden, at multiple points in the game displays leftist views. Did you actually even play the game?
>>333081136
Sure you did.
>>333078494
>Keynesian
He's wronger than wrong could be
>>333081542
>caveman retard anarchy
You idiot he actually wanted order. Order through power.
>>333081674
Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette, right?
Quick reminder that SJWs and /pol/ are sides of the same shitty coin
>>333078494
Then you missed part of the point of the game. Might makes right, and Raiden kills Armstrong making Armstrong's methods wrong. You idiot.
>>333080172
He is crazy for kidnapping children with the intention of turning them into soldiers. Raiden disagrees with this method, and kills Armstrong. Might makes right. Stop being idiots.
>>333081093
See above.
>>333081867
Not an argument
>>333081136
/v/ is a shitty place to spend free time if you don't have a lot of it. And productive people don't have a lot of it.
It's cute though, how you're trying to convince us you're an alpha by getting into pointless internet arguments with neet autists.
Tell us, why do you care enough about what we say to keep sitting there wasting your 'relaxing' time like this?
inb4 'i wuz just pretending XDD le epic troll i r so alpha lmao'
>>333081974
>Order through power
Want to define this "power"?
But this is almost quite literally how all forms of government works except communism.
>>333078494
>muh social darwinism
nah
>>333081904
>muh balanced budget
VOTE HOOVER 2016
>>333078494
They have the same face
>>333082148
>You are all meanies reeeeeeeeeeeee
>Don't matter /pol/ is loosely a thing with various peoples and opinions
>>333082189
>He is crazy for kidnapping children with the intention of turning them into soldiers.
Poor children who would have died in some shithole slum, he's giving them an actual future.
>>333082148
I appreciate that /pol/gambercrocs are the yang.
>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
>that's crazy who are you to decide who's weak and who is strong i mean you were brought into wealth you entitled shit
>FIGHT ME THEN
>fights; raiden wins
>SEE YOU WERE STRONGER THAN ME
>SO YOU WIN
>yes
>SEE I'M RIGHT YOU'RE JUST LIKE ME
Armstrong's plan is retarded because he doesn't understand what humans are. Humans are not the strongest species on the planet. We have above average stamina, but our biggest strength is our intelligence, allowing us to come together and achieve more than what we could individually. The entirety of human society is built on this, because it's what we are as a species. The end result of Armstrong's ideal world would be larger numbers of weaker humans coming together to collectively overpower the smaller numbers of stronger humans, effectively re-creating the same society that Armstrong claims to hate.
>>333078494
I don't agree with survival of the fittest because I'm not the fittest.
>>333078494
Armstrongs kinda a cuck tbqh
>>333082189
>He is crazy for kidnapping children with the intention of turning them into soldiers. Raiden disagrees with this method, and kills Armstrong. Might makes right. Stop being idiots.
How the fuck is this different to forcing children to school and then wageslaving?
>>333078494
I thought he was batshit insane
>>333082619
That's real nice and all, but again if you truly subscribed to Armstrong's ideals you'd understand that Raiden killing him nullifies Armstrong's methods.
>>333082995
Because school and wageslaving don't end with getting sliced up by a cyborg ninja.
>>333082995
>making kids go to school is the the same as making them child soldiers
/v/ - Video Games
>>333082757
What's funny is that the smaller number of stronger humans would be busy overpowering eachother too.
Cooperation OP pls nerf
>>333078494
NANOMACHINES
>>333083094
>you'd understand that Raiden killing him nullifies Armstrong's methods.
He is still right, the stronger won, no matter that himself loses.
>>333082606
/pol/
>various opinions
But nice that you got triggered by this. Its an easy way to spot /pol/tards
>>333083094
>Because school and wageslaving don't end with getting sliced up by a cyborg ninja.
Yeah, you end up getting killed by niggers, or bullies or if you finish school you'll be a slave.
>>333083115
It's worse actually.
>>333082757
>taking his speech literally
>Not realizing that there is more than just physical strength.
Whew lad.
>>333083297
>He is still right
He is not. That is the point of might makes right. The stronger, the winner, decides what is right. Raiden deems Armstrong is wrong. This is not difficult to understand, and if you truly subscribed to Armstrong's ideals you'd know this. But you probably don't.
>>333083390
>Yeah, you end up getting killed by niggers, or bullies
Where do you live that this is a rampant problem that is on par with most war zones? I think you have bigger problems if this is the case.
>or if you finish school you'll be a slave.
The tenets of living in a capitalist/mixed economic world. Enjoy your stay, or do something about it.
>>333083390
Who was mean to you bro?
>>333083326
Did you never saw the amounts of sanders threads, how much libertarians it has (And had even more), Atheists, Christians, you name it.
>omgg u so trigger I trigger u like me
>>333083390
>if you finish school you'll be a slave
B O O T S T R A P S
>>333081974
In a nutshell, Armstrong wanted to use World Marshall to give everyone nanomachine or cybernetic bodies. This would essentially put everyone on an equal starting level physically, allowing strong people (better cybernetics, more intelligence, better connections, etc.) to trample over weak people and make the United States less of a coddling society and more of a cutthroat one.
Obviously this makes no fucking sense.
>>333082729
Raiden killed him to stop him, thus proving might does make right. The only reason goodness is able to trump evil is through force. Without the force of law and order, assholes would wild out all over the place.
He is right.
>>333083552
>The stronger, the winner, decides what is right. Raiden deems Armstrong is wrong.
It dosn't mean shit whatever Raiden believed, he won and stopped Armstrong, might still made right.
>>333083810
Except better cybernetics creates a HUGE physical difference, you can see it with Raiden going from super strong to THROWING AROUND A FUCKING METAL GEAR
>>333080658
i'm sorry to say this
but memes have been around since the 1800s
if we are going by the definition
>>333084343
>It dosn't mean shit whatever Raiden believed
It does. I think we're on the same page but I wasn't clear enough. Yes, Armstrong is right that might makes right. He is absolutely 100% right. He is wrong, as decided by Raiden, to use child soldiers. He is wrong because Raiden kills him, might makes right after all. Within the context of MGR's universe they both want the same thing. For people to fight for what they believe. But to Raiden Armstrong was born into wealth and strength whereas Raiden had to get it. That and the child soldier thing which Raiden vehemently disagrees with. So they battle to see who's might is stronger, and Raiden wins making Armstrong wrong. That's as clear as I can make it.
>>333083864
If the mightiest says that might does not make right, then by Might Makes Right logic, he is correct.
What Armstrong is doing is what we already are doing to an extent
But he wanted nanomachine soldiers and robots. Something I can get behind!
>analyzing a japanese action game for political meaning
>and then setting it up precisely so it doesnt agree with your shitty politics
See, if you had any real critical thinking abilities, you'd realize this is EXACTLY what SJWs do. You know, the people you are supposed to hate?
