http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/04/02/blizzard-should-make-overwatch-a-multi-media-megahit-from-the-start/#7974a9854b09
"Video games need their own Star Wars, a series that transcends all forms of media, despite starting in one place. What if Star Wars had simply been content with producing beloved films? What if it had never bothered with books or comics or toys or shows or video games or any of that? Would it be the cultural phenomenon it is today? I don’t think so."
Discuss
>>333046257
archive that shit
>>333046347
learn to use ghostery
>>333046257
Forbes used to be the last good vidya new site. But now with this personal blog shit it's just kotaku tier now. They fucked up. I mean not financially because that is the best business decision they could have made. I mean to my personal taste.
fug it.
>Blizzard Should Make 'Overwatch' A Multi-Media
please no
it already tried too hard to be TF2 instead of being original, not to mention the fact that all the characters are boring and generic
>>333046451
>it already tried too hard to be TF2 instead of being original, not to mention the fact that all the characters are boring and generic
Thank god you don't work for the vidya game industry and shitting everything up. Weeew.
>>333046451
I really think that the only thing holding TF2 up now is that TF2 is free.
I love TF2, but after getting to know Overwatch and it's characters, it is indeed a fun game with a lot of depth. Kind off too cluttery too.
TF2 characters play off each other better, Overwatch has too much going on
>>333046257
>What if Star Wars had simply been content with producing beloved films?
Sounds fucking great. I wish I lived in that reality.
>>333046451
>please no
It's already happening you retard kill yourself
It has good marketing but the game itself is a fucking mess worse than what happened to tf2 even
But plenty of games have had multimedia properties. Final fantasy has had two films and several books. Drakengard is games/light novels/manga/audio dramas. Pretty much every game nowdays has figures and other merch.
Dis guy a fucken dump ass lol.
>>333046614
I do work in a pretty big game company that shits out AAA releases every year, but not in Blizzard
>>333046257
I totally agree. They should make a Overwatch movie or TV series. Probably a movie because I want good graphics.
Sell it to kids. You got the new Avengers.
>>333046257
yeah but all the Star Wars EU is non canon now
who the fuck would pay to see shallow pixar ripoffs doing _anything_?
>>333046257
Do people even give half a fuck about the Star Wars shit that isn't the films?
Their are burning out the franchise so quickly it got old before releasing, the only thing left to experience is the gameplay and honestly I'd rather play any other fps than that bloated mess.
>>333047856
>Not being canon makes Rogue Squadron and Battlefront no longer fun!
>Fuck the Gendy clone wars, who would watch that when it's no longer canon!
They're already making overwatch comics and animated shorts (afaik the second is actually supposed to release today), they're definitely trying to make Overwatch a multimedia IP. Seeing as Warcraft is getting its own movie, I don't think an Overwatch animated film will ever be out of the question unless they suddenly decide to drop support for the game.
>>333048587
That's a legit argument.
Why would anyone watch or spend money on something that is no longer relevant to the main series?
>unironically discussing casual crossplatform piece of crap
Ho-o-o-o-o-l-y shit. What's happening? I feel Blizzard money oozing from that article.
Yeah, we need another beloved franchise that is completely whored out by its creator and then sold to an even more deplorable company.
Oh wait, it's made by Blizzard. So it's already modern Star Wars without the success.
>insertcoin
nothing worth to discuss here
>>333048975
why wold it matter? the main series doesn't even care. or tell where in the star wars movies did they ever mention Revan,Darth Bane, Thrawne, or the mando wars. even when they were "canon"
you autistic aspie
>>333046257
Blizzard already do that.
Japan too but only in their country.
>>333046257
There will obviously be comics and books like with their other franchises.
I do hope for a web series since blizzard has great cgi and since it's about super heroes (they are fucking superheroes) its probably going to be a hit.
>>333049428
>web series
they're already pumping out animated shorts, but there's only 3 left, which would make it a mini series
additionally they have 6 digital comics already lined up to go near launch. At this point all that's left is a full CGI movie and something on netflix
>>333046257
The dumbest shit I've ever heard. George Lucas didn't start making Star Wars merchandise before the movie was a success. Blizzard should focus on making Overwatch good before they consider any of this nonsense.
>>333046257
>Video games need their own Star Wars, a series that transcends all forms of media, despite starting in one place.
lol who is this moron
how do people this stupid get hired to write things
it's like i'm reading kotaku
>>333046257
Have they never heard of mario or pac man?
Forget Star Wars, video games need their own version of this.
>>333046257
I mean that Pixar short they made was pretty cool. I'd watch a movie about those two kids growing up to be heroes themselves after maybe going on an adventure with all the mercs.
>>333049546
all that's less than TF2 has, and TF2 didn't get a movie.
>>333047856
nah its legacy cannon which makes it an alternate universe
>>333050404
Why do TF2 faggots always bring up Team fortress even when we're not talking about the meme game?
>>333048081
seeing as plenty of people played the star wars games or watched the cartoons at some point I'd say so
>The manager does things right; the leader does the right thing.”
what did they mean by this?
just get the game out to the public first for fucks sake
>>333050563
Because Overwatch blatently took ideas and pacing from it, and only a blind Blizzdrone would deny this.
>>333050762
Just like Star Wars borrowed from Kurosawa and other classics!
It's pottery
>>333050762
>games in the same genre
>stealing
Even if they did why do you care? afraid Overwatch is gonna make TF2 obsolete?
>>333051046
I haven't played TF2 in a couple of years, and the original question was why Overwatch draws so many comparisons to TF2, you dumb Blizzdrone.
>>333046410
Its forbes, any attempt at blocking the ads even with Ghostery gets you "STOP ADBLOCKING"
>>333051046
Overwatch has no hats and you can't sell in-game loot for money and it's not F2P
>>333050303
That's called conker's bad fur day
But TF2 already has a comic. All we need is a cartoon/movie and it's done everything.
Also does Sam and Max count as that? It started out as a comic but the video-game is what made the franchise famous.
>>333051168
They're both arena shooters with different classes, except OW doesn't do it "One character = one class".
Splatoon is also an arena shooter, do you rage about it ripping off TF2? Did you know that TF2 ripped off ideas from games that came before it?
>>333046257
>What is Mario?
>>333051168
Because it has that same Pixar like art style and has classes but that's really it.
It's more like a MOBA honestly, with different characters having different abilities that can replace each other.
>>333050762
>Valve blatantly steals Warcraft visuals aesthetics and concepts for Dota 2, nobody comments
>Valvedrones complain when Blizzard copies TF2
Nice hypocrisy there
>>333046257
its already taken a large hit with the tracer debacle so this wont happen
Star wars started out as movies and some toys everything else came after it was established a a beloved series There are so many ips that they try the multimedia blitz with and they seem to always fall flat on their face because they never give time for a fanbase to grow.
>>333051505
>Valve bought out a Warcraft mod and made DOTA 2
Fixed it for you.
>>333051168
>and the original question was why Overwatch draws so many comparisons to TF2,
no the question was
>>333050563
you guy have such an inferiority complex its amazing.
>I think this corporation is stealing another corporations idea bcause that has NEVER EVER happened before
at the end of the day valve doesn't give a damn about all they care about is money its amazing what some deluded fanboys will go through to defend them.
>>333050646
Managers go by the book no matter what even if the employees get fucked over and a leader does things that help the employees and make them worth following basically.
It's a common supervisor saying.
The vast bulk of Star Wars comics & novels are absolute fucking trash that makes fanfiction.net's works look good
The plethora of merchandising is because Lucas saw more potential in selling overpriced plastic toys to children than he saw in box office returns; Spaceballs made fun of it.
If Blizzard is retarded and wants to waste a lot of money they're free to try to do like Trion did with their multi-media blitz. Defiance nearly bankrupted Trino and it made them hemorrhage money so badly they began pumping out moneygrubbing localizations of shitty korean cybercafe flavor of the month grinders.
>>333050563
because tf2 faggots are mad the game went free and was ruined by valve
so anything that remotely resembles tf2's prime, they get triggered and have to bring up tf2
>>333052048
F2P saved TF2
>>333052106
>poorfags actually think this
>>333051046
Never, I'm glad your kind of people is enjoying overwatch, if I had enough money I would buy a copy for each one of you.
>>333052176
it was dying before f2p
now it is third most played game on steam
>>333052318
>it was dying
No it wasn't. It had a steady population that were committed to the game and actually gave a fuck about it. F2P just brought in a whole slew of poorfags, communities were destroyed completely and replaced by these factory servers with a revolving door of players because no one gives a fuck anymore.
>>333051345
In short, Slaptoon has significantly less in common with TF2 than OW does, hth.
>>333051494
When I talk about how it copies pacing, I talk about how things like the pre-game or chokepoint fights feel. It's not a 1:1 copy, nor did I claim it is, but those things that are similar are going to draw out comparisons.
>>333051505
Pixar artstyle is fairly rare in video games, whereas uninspired fantasy isn't. Nevertheless, I simply made a statement and not a critique. In fact, I don't give a shit about game devs taking inspiration / copying each other and that is not why Overwatch is trash; ironically it's the parts it did not take from TF2 that damn it. Funny how all of you are taking it as a negative critique though.Neither did Valve copy the Warcraft visuals; the pauldrons and elven ears in Dota simply aren't big enough.
>>333051840
>no the question was
Do you actually fail to see how what I said is simply a reformulation of the question, or are you just acting?
![mgu-body-image[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4xtK68N.jpg "mgu-body-image[1].jpg")
>>333046257
>Why didn't they make it a multimedia megahit???
Are these faggots imply that all the other times Publishers had big dreams for an IP were a good idea?
>>333052695
go big or go home
there is nothing to be gained from zero plus success
>>333046257
So, like Pokemon?
![985009_orig[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/vqNPWk3.png "985009_orig[1].png")
>>333052784
Whenever these publishers start counting their chickens before they hatch they end up wasting millions of dollars and it ends up being just a bad videogames and all the dreams go up in smoke.
Better to have a solid successful first title and build off natural success.
>>333046257
Isn't WoW the Star Wars of video games using this logic?
>has it's own movie
>has tons of novels
>tons of comic books
>has their own card game
>even had their own mountain dew line
>>333052559
Anon who asked the question, here my question was why bring up team fortress when we're supposed to be talking about the overwatch multi-media potential nowhere did i ever imply why with the comparisons.
![Yo-kai_Watch_Promotional_Art[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6qgQ1Du.jpg "Yo-kai_Watch_Promotional_Art[1].jpg")
>>333052897
>"""pokemon"""
>bring up a dead franchise that was killed by a multimedia juggernaut
>>333052936
Who cares
All losses can be avoided by just bankrupting the company
>>333052784
except you know
net profits
>>333048975
Are you seriously asking whether or not people would watch or play spinoffs?
>>333052936
isn't there suppose to be 10+ years of support and content for destiny and they're already rumored to be making a sequel.
>>333046257
I would prefer if Overwatch was a movie. I really do not like what I've seen of the game so far, but the cut scenes are pretty damned good.Reminds me a little of Big Hero 6.
>>333052938
Mountain Dew: Fel
"Tastes like corruption!"
>>333053047
yokai watch only killed Pokemon in Japan bombed everywhere else.
>>333053147
Also I would like to state, that I want the people involved in Warcraft to be in no one involved with it. I would want Overwatch to be good.
>>333052784
Never start a business.
>>333046257
Overwatch will never be Star Wars because it simply doesn't have as good of art. Overwatch's art style isn't even coherent - it's nowhere near Star Wars's level which is brilliant.
>>333053226
That's the joke.
>>333047093
>the only thing holding TF2 back is terrible gameplay and clunky controls/mechanics
Fixed that for ya. Ive put over 1000 hours into TF2. I enjoy it but i realize its a pretty aweful game overall.
>>333053535
>implying most fans care about art
lets be real all they care about is lightsaber battles while all the manbabbies care about is the madalorians
>>333053931
Bubba Fett!
>>333046257
If you try to manufacture a pan-media phenomenon, it will fail.
I'm not sure how to break it to you anons, but Overwatch isn't exactly engrossing. It's nice that they're making animated shorts and all, but outside of their high quality animation they are largely trite. There is very little about the premise, characters, or even aesthetic that is special or gripping. While I don't doubt they are putting effort into developing Overwatch's world and story, its purpose isn't to stand on its own.
I have no doubt in my mind that Blizzard would have been completely fine leaving the lore as an excuse for the existence of the game, but there seems to be this sorely misplaced desire for Overwatch to be something more than it is.
>>333053931
That doesn't change the fact that Star Wars art style is great, it is recognizable and coherent, that's why fans like it.
I don't want it to be anything but a video game. You should only branch out into other media once you've established your game and made it solid as a purchase.
Imagine if Team Fortress 2 released expiration date, end of the line, and all the cosmetics and comics before the game was even out. Wouldn't it be confusing and take away from the game itself? If you think TF2 is unbalanced now, imagine how bad it'd be if they didn't put all their initial focus into making it playable.
>pyro still have no airblast
>demoman would have 6 pills
>soldier would still have 250 HP
>glitches everywhere
They waited 6-8 years before really pouring on the story and extra spinoff stuff. That's how long Overwatch needs to wait.
>>333054170
Pokemon succeeded and has been for 20 years so much so there has been zero need for innovation for years
>>333054394
star wars doesn't have a singular artstyle though all you have is concept art.
>>333054410
>pyro still have no airblast
Doesn't sound bad to me.
Also your analogy makes no sense because the people making cosmetics aren't the ones balancing the game (although the people making the cosmetic system would be programmers and designers)
>>333054673
>Also your analogy makes no sense because the people making cosmetics aren't the ones balancing the game
True, but adding the cosmetics adds to the amount of work the programmers have to do, since they have to bug test the items and fix them whenever there's a graphical problem. It would add to the excess workload and overall prevent the programmers from really getting to the heart of the game and fixing any blatant problems.
That's what Overwatch is doing right now. They're not focusing on gameplay. They're trying to be "cinematic" and "deep" but failing miserably. Also, the devs don't care about gameplay as much as trying to "appeal to the lowest common denominator". Remember the Tracer fiasco?
>>333054481
The age of "Pokemania" only started after the success of the first two games was established. They didn't go all-in the moment the games were released.
>>333054673
>pyro still have no airblast
>Doesn't sound bad to me.
Soldier main detected.
>>333054957
>That's what Overwatch is doing right now. They're not focusing on gameplay.
Yeah I get this, but I don't think it's due to their obsession with making it a multi-media franchise, but rather to them not having the talent they had 15 years ago.
>>333055140
Nah, I'm actually pretty sure I have more hours played as Pyro than Soldier. I just think airblast is an obnoxious mechanic that serves as a bandaid for a hopelessly bad class.
>>333055140
The best part about an airblasting pyro is that they rely too much on that, I used to play a lot with a pyro main and after a while I learned to completely destroy M2 pyros.
>>333055339
>>333055274
>demos and soldiers should have free reign to spam projectiles with no way to reflect them
Okay brahs.
>>333055512
l2dodge tyvm
Slow projectile speed, damage falloff and low clip size already takes care of that anyway.
>>333047558
Pokemon is the first one that comes to mind.
>>333055512
But I didn't say that. Airblast is such a great mechanic.
>>333055726
Why not learn to dodge airblasted projectiles?
>>333055904
I don't care about airblasted projectiles, but instead, explain how you manage to dodge hitscan knockback.
>>333056292
By not getting close to the pyro in the first place.
How do you dodge crit stickies that you can't see behind a door?
>>333055117
They had an anime started , toys a cute mascot everybody got behind, a catchy theme song, manga, trading card games, two different versions to satisfy trading and friendship building while also fueling the need to catch em all.
Now we could all admit the only reason this worked was because it was the first of its kind and all that but they did have it all planned out.
Is it wrong that I actually find Overwatch to be quite fun as a casual game?
I just know Blizzard is going to ruin it by forcing in esports shit into the game, instead of just having it be a FUN GAME
>>333056539
By having map awareness.
Besides, no one should claim TF2 has no bad mechanics, and random crits certainly is one of them.
How you would manage to push crit stickies with the airblast if you can't even see them is beyond me.
>>333051505
>Valve blatantly steals Warcraft visuals aesthetics and concepts for Dota 2, nobody comments
Blizzard blatantly steals Warhammer visuals aesthetics for Warcraft, nobody comments.
>concept for Dota 2
Blizzard sat on that for years doing nothing so Valve decided to butt in.
Also the same argument could be made against Riot and LoL.
>>333056539
fire an explosive at them to push them away
>>333053918
>the only thing holding TF2 back is poor optimization and valve not giving a shit
Fixed that for ya, TF2 has some of the best movement mechanics and you can rebind every single key.
>>333058619
They're decent, especially for a modern shooter, but not the best by far.
>>333051505
Here comes the butthurt Blizzdrone who thinks Valve stole anything like Blizzard stole all their shit from other franchises.
Valve took mods and made actual games. It's not their fault Blizzard sat on a goldmine and did nothing with it.
I'm glad they squandered it, those incompetent fucks would just ruin it.
But aren't they already doing that? They are making animations, and are probably expanding OW to comics and such. It just would be really stupid to do it just in a start, usually you need to build some sort of base before doing anything else. That's what they are doing.
>>333046257
Let me guess, is this another tassi article?
That guy is a fucking hack. Every opinion piece he writes about is garbage, he just baits people to read his articles by saying the stupidest shit possible.
