Holy shit I cant believe I put off playing MGSV for this long. This is one of the best games ever. Lets talk about it.
>>333043029
prepare to be massively disappointed towards the end, like every single other person.
the game is literally unfinished, and Jewnami's pushing in nothing but paid DLC crap on it at the moment.
>>333043029
Just take your time and savor it, friend.
Who's the best sneke?
>>333043421
Naked is best snake.
>>333043226
Thankfully the game has more going for it than just its story
>>333043421raiden
Third person FAR CRY 2
>>333043421
Solid.
Is the hospital opening one of the best sequences in video game history? I didn't mind it was just an interactive movie near-impossible to lose simply because I knew the real game was gonna be great.
in hindsight, it leaves only one plotpoint hanging open and if you're curious enough, you can watch the unfinished chapter on youtube, since it was released as a bonus feature on the collector's edition or some shit
even then, the only reason why the game is dissapointing is because all the mainline games in the series always featured an expertly crafted cathartic finale, and this one just fizzles out - but not before delivering at least two pretty emotional sequences before its abrupt end
>>333043029
did you play Ground Zeros?
>>333043473
Now when half the game is replaying shit
>>333043029
And then Chapter 2 comes around and you get incredibly bored.
Some games have some interesting side tasks at least.
>>333043421
solidus wanted to make america great again and unlike liquid he didn't have dad issues or inferiority complex
solid was nothing but a tool
dont even know what to think of big boss now after PW and TPP
>>333045515
>solidus was the good guy all along-meme
solidus wanted power and he got major butthurt when the patriots denied him a seat
that's the only reason he went beserk; he's not some hero, he's just rationalizing his asspain like any psychotic narcissist would with a plan like his
still a great character, but not some 'noble good guy' by any means
>>333044239
It was good the first time.
Second time it was just tedious.
>>333043029
I dont care about the story being shit like /v and the rest of the internet claims when it is actually ok.
The gameplay and the design choices in the gameplay and all the Technologie make this game my 10/10
How can it be one of the best if it's the worst in the series? Does that mean the other MGS games are the best?
3 = 1 > V(GZ+TPP) = 2 > PW > 4
>>333046348
I can't believe the game makes you go through the entire tutorial twice for a slightly changed opening and one extra cutscene.
>>333046589
Are you in opposite land?
PW>2>1=4>GZ>3>TPP
>>333046498
>>333046589
>separating metal gears
>not having the collective series be your favorite game
>>333046589
I hate to agree, but this.
>>333046421
doesn't the entirely dead "open world" bother you?
>>333046654
I've been here since '06 and I never saw such a shitty taste. What the fuck man
>>333046589
I'd broadly agree but with one minor alteration:
3 = 1 > 2 > V(GZ + TPP) > PW > 4
Call me a nostalgiafag, but I really enjoyed 2. Its gameplay was a great blend of arcadey MGS1 stuff and realistic-ish MGS3 stuff. It struck a perfect midpoint for me.
>>333046785
This guy gets it
>>333046654
> PW that high
I fucking loved Peace Walker, but even I think that's assbackwards retarded, anon.
> 3 below GZ
> 4 above 3
>>333046874
If it wasn't for TPP, 3 would be the worst in the series. 4 is just a better 3. Peace Walker is the best co-op game ever made.
>>333046973
>3 would be the worst in the series
Jesus fucking christ
>4 is just a better 3
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>333046758
I've been here since 04 and anyone who thinks 3 is good often means it was their first MG or never played 4. I noticed that all PW haters only played it on PS3 which is the incorrect way to play.
>>333046973
Are you fucking high, anon? PW is not even the best co-op stealth game, that accolade belongs to Splinter Cell Chaos Theory.
Can't wait to see you back here in a couple of days complaining about how its the worst game ever made after you get to chapter 2.
MGS5 is the best half game I've ever played.
>>333047109
>. I noticed that all PW haters only played it on PS3 which is the incorrect way to play.
I played it on the PSP and found it to be a grindy mediocre experience that was somehow less engrossing than portable ops.
>>333043029
Have you played a Metal Gear Solid game before?
>>333046706
Your confusing open world with Sandbox.
Its not a Open World like GTA with tons of shit to do in, it just gives you options to take a mission like you want to.
>>333043029
You subbed to johnny too?
>>333047109
I'm a fan of 2 and think it's the closest video games have ever come to art, and even I think 3 is a great video game.
>>333046706
is only dead if you want it that way
>>333046589
1> 2=3> 5> 4> PW>>>>>>>>>Twin Snakes
What is MGO like? Is itfun? Will Konami close the servers down soon?
>>333047371
The patrols lack variety and are spread so thin I can't think of them as much of a contribution. Add that to the mostly indifferent wildlife and checkpoints all being the same and you have a pretty dull world.
>>333047474
Dead on arrival, more or less. The maps are just sections of the main map in afghanistan closed off, there's very few game modes and the variety and fun factor just isn't there. fucking MGS3's online mode had more to it than MGO.
>>333046131
Still had the best endgame. Except Arm Snake actually pulled it off better than him.
Why the fuck did Kojima do that arm shit instead of just bringing Liquid back?
>>333047474
It's one of the funnest mutliplayers I've personally ever played.
Sadly however, it was dead in barely 3 months.
>>333047528
its about what they do in response to you instead of what they do whtn nobody is looking anon
>>333047474
Worse than MGO2
>>333047724
>Posts webm where they do absolute fuck-all in response to you.
>>333043029
It's a fucking amazing game that's easily a 10/10 if you can get over the admittedly disappointing story. So much fun for over 170 hours.
>>333043421Venom
Although Big Boss was fucking awesome.
>>333044239
Yes, but replaying it at the end was fucking dumb.
>>333044445
This.
>>333046421
>>333047257
I like you.
>>333046785
For me, it's 2>V=3>4>1>PW, but that's mostly because 2 was my first Metal Gear Solid.
Why did the doc alter your face only to alter it back to BBs?
>>333047825
Posting again for irrelevant feedback
The rise in popularity of this fucking shit on the PS1 was a sure sign that gaming was dying. Now, it's dead.
Fuck you nugamer trash for making gaming into whatever the fuck this is. Go fuck yourselves.
So they must have fooled around at least once right?
Is that why Ocelot was so bitter when he brought it up? BB dumped his ass like he dumped EVA?
>>333048163
Naked Snake used to be so handsome
>>333048163
I actually hope that was the case.
That'd be fucking adorable.
>>333048017
An hour in she gets replaced by raiden
>>333048163
Two guys being closed friends is /v/'s version of the real world's a guy and a girl being close friend. In high school, if a guy hangs out with a girl, everybody starts talking about how they fuck. On /v/, when two male video game characters are depicted as bros, /v/ spreads rumors about how they fuck.
>>333048017
>not having you play as uhot4days against a metal gear with the solid snake brain atached to it
>>333048007
>GZ
Not the same compadre.
>>333048237
It's actually more depressing than cute. Ocelot threw his life away for him, kind of.
>>333048273
You know Ocelot was thirsty as fuck for that dick in MGS3, right? EVA wouldn't stop bringing it up.
>>333048273
Ocelot's literally said he was in love with Big Boss.
>>333048017
I want Metal Gear Rising 2 to be staring Sunny. Maybe no a mainline Rising game make it a spin off like Metal Gear Rising Sun or something, since Sunny couldn't deliver the same gameplay Raiden can, set it like 10 years after Rising 1 so we play as adult Sunny.
Make the game focused on a more stealth gameplay with Sunny using the sword as more of a backup, give you a lot of gadgets so you, a normal human, can compete with the cyborgs and AI weapons.
By default she has a futuristic sneaking suit, but also have options for MGS4's muscle suit, giving you access to octocamo, the cyborg ninja exoskeleton Olga used in MGS2, and her blade, making the game closer to the first Rising, and then some fun extra costumes like the Boss's sneaking suit, the outfits Olga wore in Tanker and Plant chapters, and a topless version of Sunny's sneaking suit where she has the pants from it and a sports bra on. Make the camera in an over the shoulder position, skewed to subtly focus on Sunny's armpit like it focuses on Snake's ass in most of the Solid games.Make it the first game to have a female protagonist with hairy armpits
>>333047528
Checkpoints I could agree with. They're more annoying, and there is:
1. Always a way to get around them
2. Never a reason to really stick to the road when you have D-Horse or can land relatively close.
But with random patrols I disagree. The lack of patrols make them much more unexpected when you encounter them. The only reason that changes is the Intel team that tells you a field of movement that you have to be listening for. I would be in favor of more diverse patrols though. It seems like I only have snipers near outposts, helicopters only respond and never patrol, and I almost never see tanks outside of missions.
>>333048428
yeah PP is a little bit better
>>333044239
yes
>>333048273
Ocelot literally devoted his entire life to helping big boss through the most overcomplicated and elaberate plan ever made
>>333048613
>>333048017
posting better idea
>>333048689
>through the most overcomplicated and elaberate plan ever made
An Ocelot came up with most of it himself. Crazy bastard.
>>333048613
never waifufag, its going to be another Raiden game and you can't stop them.
>>333048730
That's not a bad idea but I feel like it would work better as a side story to a main game than an entire MG game in itself
>>333048845
I still think MGS2 would have been better with Raiden as a chick.
>>333048908
no it wouldn't have
>>333048982
How would it have not?
>>333049160
Because Raiden was perfect the way he was you fuck.
My favorite foreshadowing toIshmael being the real Big Bosswas how when Quiet is lit ablaze in the beginning. She is covered in flammable liquid, but you couldn't see a lighter or anything that could possibly ignite her around you.But Big Boss always carries a lighter on him.
Its the little things
>>333049320
Hmm, never put that together.
There's still so many loose ends and unanswered questions from the hospital sequence though. And not just Ishmael's magical beard that apparently can grow in about an hour and the fact that he appears to have two intact eyes. During the scene where Ahab and Ishmael crowd into the corridor with the hospital staff and other patients (right after the close up on Ishmael's ass crack), when the soldiers open fire, you clearly see Ishmael take a lethal gunshot wound through the torso and fall dead. Yet seconds later, he suddenly appears from behind you and drags Ahab into the other room. This even happens in the Truth version. What the hell is up with that?
>>333043029
Personally in V I would have had more stuff which may or may not be real and whether it is or not is up to the player to decide. That horn could have created some of the most fucked up psychological trauma
>>333050212
The individual whose asscrack you zoom in on isn't actually ismael, it's put there intentionally to misinform because kojimbo loves failing attempts the ruse through the cutscenes
>>333050538
That could have been good.
At least the deleted final mission would have had V accidentally shoot Eli due to his vision getting fucked up.
That would have been great.
I got it roughly a week ago, it's incredible.
Probably my retrospective GOTY, if something like that can exist.
What are some times that /v/ lied to you?
>>333050839
It's a great game, people just got disappointed because it didn't offer the fanfiction they wanted.
Story-wise, MGS has been dead since 4.
>>333043226
I beat it the other day, and while /v/'s shitposting kept it from disappointing me, it does just kind of peeter out and end all of a sudden.
It's a shame that weapon upgrades end up giving you totally OP loadouts, especially with higher durability suppressors. Early game was tense as shit because needing to use guns sparingly meant you had to get close to enemies a lot.
Also the starting camo being the best for every occasion could have been improved.
>>333050912
Honestly, even the story isn't that bad.
It's sparse, yeah, but Keifer's delivery of lines makes Snake seem far more badass then he did before.Reminder that Hayter is a hack who only became worse at playing Snake as time went on because he kept trying to force the gravely voice more and more.
Absolutely shitty game with repetitive mission structure and disappointing bosses. The open area levels are nice but the open world in between them add nothing to the game. Base management is shallow and grindy.
3/5
>>333043029
>No huge bases to sneak into.
>Level design is lacking.
>There's not really any expansive interiors to any of the bases which sucks.
>Third area with snow would have been a welcome addition.
>Motherbase is just a hugbox for snake with no real customization options other than the color and the emblem.
>Story is incomplete.
>Can't go out without any weapons or gear. You always have to have at least a rifle and a pistol when you go out on a mission.
>Side quests are really repetitive.
Still I somehow liked it.
>>333048017
> no johnny
fuck you he was funny as fuck and deserved to be a character in all MGS
>>333051393
You forgot that due to the 1-save system, you can't play through it again, for literally zero replay value.
You can play individual missions again, but it's not the same.
>>333044079
hel ye niga
>>333051032
That's not exactly true. Ambush camo for angola at night is better than the starting camo, for example.
>>333051393
>the open world in between them adds nothing to the game
I dunno, anon. Outside of the stupidly long journeys between side ops I never had an issue with the open world. In fact, being able to ambush people that I have to eliminate halfway through their drive when nobody could hear them scream is tight as fuck.
I get why some people didn't like it, and I certainly would've been interested if the big missions revolved around isolated complexes like Camp Omega, but overall open-world Metal Gear is something that I appreciate.
Besides, without open world Metal Gear there wouldn't be a reason to zoom in on Quiet and for her to give you a thumbs up, and that was the peak of the game.
>>333043029
Fuck you OP. I didn't even finish this piece of shit because I was so disappointed. Why did Kojima have to fall for the open world meme?
>>333051509
>it was said before launch that there would be 5 areas
>there were 2
Was he calling the cut island and Mother Base areas? If so, what was the third area? Was that supposed to be part of Chapter 3? If he wasn't counting those, how fucking unfinished was this game?
I literally don't want to ever play MGSV again because I just know that all my soldiers will have been kidnapped and raped.
Except my 5 Flaming Buffaloes because they're on direct contract.
>>333051628
I must never have developed that one.
>>333051696
>tfw quiet can't give you a thumbs up when enemies are around
>>333045515
Solidus was an idealist twat who would've ruined everything.
>>333043029https://a.pomf.cat/sefskl.mp3
>>333050212
Big Boss left with Ocelot the morning before the attack, Ishmael is a hallucination, Venom's fractured mind acclimating to all the strange new memories that were suddenly thrust upon him, initially, the way Big Boss operates is so alien to Venom's mind that he imagines someone else there acting in his stead when he's behaving like Big Boss.
So Ishmael teaches him to to crawl, walk, run, shoot and sneak again, step by step, just like Big Boss would until the new persona finally takes and his mind kills Ishmael off for good.
You'll also notice that Ishmael and Venom are each only wearing one half of a full hospital gown while all the other patients are fully dressed.
>>333047640
I think instead of Liquid haunting the place, it should have been Psycho Mantis, since he has psychic powers to explain the mind control shit, or have him haunting the place like he did in MGS4.
>>333051696
>cleared the game
>finish about 70% of side-ops
>only then find out how to use the box fast travel system
Am I retarded?
>>333054251
Yes.
whats the best setup? I haven't changed my starting equipment yet.
>>333055889
I'm currently using a tranquilizer pistol, a tranquilizer sniper, an silenced assault rifle, and a golden fist of justice.
I'm only 25 missions in, but so far this setup makes the game seem pretty easy. It's alsofun.
By the way, related question - I unlocked the ability to customize my guns, how do I make those customizations apply? I just want my sniper rifle to be silenced.
