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THE VR DREAM IS DEAD!
ok SONY
oculus died the moment facebook bought it. it's like google trying to do a social network, it's just not going to work. people are stupid but they realize it's not a good idea to give so much control over their lives to a single company
If it squeezes your face like that then it's too tight.
>>333025759
>Literally everyone who played oculus for 10 minutes have those.
Ok.
Anyone who honestly expected this "VR" to be anything but a gimmick deserves to have their wallets eaten. ESPECIALLY after Facebook bought it.
The other options aren't much better.
>>333025704
>they realize it's not a good idea to give so much control over their lives to a single company
Completely untrue, the average consumer doesn't mind being fucked sideways.
> Sony introduces VR for 400
> "hey thats pretty cool, mass adaption is needed in order for VR to succeed in the long run"
> Sony introduces additional $400 PS4k for the optimal VR experience, everything else will be total shit
And it's ruined.
>>333025814
You must not have checked with myself or any of the people I've shown it to.
>>333025928
What the fuck did you expect? Did you think the PS4 is able to properly render the required minimum for a good VR experience?
>>333025704
>they realize it's not a good idea to give so much control over their lives to a single company
No. They just dont want a VR headset for browsing facebook and no gamer ever expects Zuckerberg to make a single good game.
FB wants it for social only and the social people dont care. Oculus will bomb hard.
>>333025704
Facebook fucked it but not because of Skynet paranoia, they just restricted the project too much.
SONY logic
>400 dollars machine
>400 dollars VR headset
>100 dollars camera and move
>retail price may be higher
>shitty framerate and reasolution
>no games to play
SONYggers logic
>AWEEEEEESSOOME
>VR is shit anyway, will fail
ok
>>333026014
>Did you think the PS4 is able to properly render the required minimum for a good VR experience?
not at allI hoped they would somehow pull something really creative and make it worthwhile regardless
I hope VR fails, I didn't want another generation of dumb gimmicks like waggle. Hell, at least waggle sometimes added to gameplay, VR is just about the "experience". I guess there's some extra control with head tracking, but I have yet to see that used in any meaningful way that couldn't also be done by a keyboard.
The Oculus already has fb integrations and ad space set up in it. Say goodbye to freedom
>>333026305
and people said console gaming is cheaper than pc
he always wins
why
>>333026474
>trying to find logic in consoletards
it's literally like beating a dead horse
>tfw don't care about about all this vr crap at all
you keep wasting your money i guess
>it's a comically frustrated wojak thread
>>>/trash/
>>333025457
why is it dead
what happened
Closed project, bloated cost, a bunch stupid fucking peripherals no one wanted or asked for.
Dead on arrival.
I probably would have got a 2nd or 3rd generation consumer version, but fuck them.
>this is the year VR takes off I know it
when will this meme end?
>>333026663
They were forcing the fuck out of it at GDC. But I'm pretty sure it's not going to be in consumer hands, at least a large amount of them, for a long time.
>>333025457
VR failed once before because the tech and market weren't there.
>>333026643
Hololens
VR is dead
long live AR
>>333026663
>people who unironically shill VR on /v/
I know they really love science fiction but goddamn. Just because it's a cool idea doesn't mean it's actually viable. The future should be about building on what works and making real innovations, not pipe dreams.
>>333025457
It's very good to launch your 599$ costing platform with "Literally Who" collection of games, really shows quality.
>>333026529
Do you enjoy playing your zombie survival games, PCuck?
>>333025704
What does Facebook intend to do with Oculus anyway? You'd think they really have something clever in mind to spend that much
>The only future VR has is "phone in a cardboard box"
>>333026716
>shitty 80s kiddy hardware
just think that vive and oculus will be used by corporations in 3d design and you just have a huge market
>>333026716
I was enjoying real VR before you kiddos were even born.
give it a 100 years its gonna be pretty rad then i promise
>>333026813
dying light is also on ps4 at lower framerate, resolution and no updated version and it's good. check it out
>>333026759
Yeah it's honestly suspect that there are so many shills for vr on /v/. It has no proof of concept, everything we've seen are just gimmicks with no substance.
What're you guys gonna play on VR?
>early adopters of thing are disillusioned with said thing
Someone call CNN
>>333026479
Gabe thinking
>Imagine this situation in VR, those girls would look so hot.
>>333025457
had a good laugh on that one
>>333026990
illusion playclub
>>333025457
I never understood what happened to the kickstarter money after faceberg bought it.
>>333026529
what fucking hair products does he use?
Oh look its the new /v/ lets hate on everything meme xD, kill yourselfs.
>>333026990
Cuckold porn
>>333026813
>>333026813
>>333026813
I'm not even mad. Just pity.
>>333025945
Nobody checks with autistic cunts and we don't feel your family who do anything to avoid your 'meltdowns' as reliable sources mi familia
>>333026975
I tested one of the oculus versions out, it was alright.
Kept bugging out so that I had to look down to center the view.
I could see it being a neat novelty thing in a few years, if they get res and refresh rate up, cost down.
Screen door effect was a bit annoying and it the head movement wasn't quite fluid.
>>333027094
Look at what OP posted. It was a shitpost thread from the beginning. The fact that shitposts can even thrive this well is pretty telling of the population here.
>>333026990
Skyrim, getting fucked by dogs in first person.
>not buying best vr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkOuShXpoKc
the only thing that bugs me is the blue light that every modern screen emits
that will make everyone blind.
Wasn't there a VR headset by another company (I think Samsung)?
>>333027149
Brutal.
Savage.
Rekt.
>>333027094
>No content
>Overpriced
>Display is a joke
>>333027267
Google, Sony, Samsung, Vive, etc.
>>333027051
the Kickstarter money went where all kickstarter money goes; Into expensive vacations and cheap whores.
>mfw flight simulator enthusiast
>mfw even if VR doesn't take off, it'll still exist in some capacity for sim autists
>caring about vr when the best games are always third person
It really makes me wonder how are they planning to sell it to the mainstream. It's 600 fecking dollars and requires an enthusiast PC, yet they're trying to market it as if it was for everyone.
>>333025457
>2 years ago
>Test out Oculus at a press event
>Representative is really pushy and kind of rude about handling and using the product correctly
>Strap it to my head, front heavy and feels awkward
>Picture is blurry as shit
>Rep tells me "You would just need to spend a few hours with it so your brain can get used to it and it will become a lot more clear."
>Looking around at the virtual environment, feeling like a turtle on its back
>Take it off
>"Well, anon, what did you think?"
>mfw
>Go to bathroom 5 mins after, notice red imprint on my face
Yea, no.
>>333025457
>Never even tried a set
>Declaring it dead
I know you memers want it to be true, but it aint. VR is here to stay, you should start saving for the next consumer version instead of getting upset.
>>333027381
Don't forget drugs. Lots and lots of drugs
>>333025842
>facebook bought vr
Why do people pretend that vr is for anything besides porn? That's really all I want
I really haven't looked into VR at all since it just seems kind of lame, but wouldn't it hurt your eyes to stare at a screen that close to you for so long? Like it seems like it would be physically painful.
>>333027465
I tested one of the development kits. It looked like I was looking through a screen door and I got sick quickly. Apparently the consumer release doesn't have that problem anymore.
>>333027502
Did you tried OUYA?
>>333027502
>falling for the bait
>>333027406chris-chan pls
>>333027094
>headsets are too heavy and lean on the bridge of your nose
>no games
>even the demos look terrible
>gives players bad eyestrain after a few minutes
>you're just hating on VR because you're contrarian lelelele
are you fucking stupid or what
>>333027550
because you can use it to sculpt and 3d print sexy dolls easily
IT'S
TOO
BIG
TO
FAIL
YOU IDIOTS
Apple has constructed artificial needs to sell their products, this will be no different.
>LE VR MEME XD
fuck off, it's a one big gimmick which will NEVER EVER stay as say TV or something
>>333027624
You can already do this on PC and it's much easier.
Why do you all want VR to fail so badly? I just want to escape this reality with my waifu. I don't want you normalfag contrarians getting in my way.
>>333027758
I know, but I've found that the motion controls work very well in this kind of task
>all these non believers
Just you wait. Even terrorists will be training young kids to be kids with this shit
>>333027763
>PS3 tier graphics
>>333027763
>Cut out all dynamic lights and weather, with most post-process effects
>Not ps3 level gimped
Ok.
>>333027763
what a normie
YOU'RE NOT IN A REAL CAR DOUFUS
>>333027553
>>333025457
>>333026663
Seriously though who the fuck is making these images.
>>333026904
>kiddy hardware
so nothing changed?
>>333026474
It is, if you wanna buy an oculus, that's $1000 for a PC and then 599 for the rift.
>>333027763
Isn't rendering the game both to the headset and tv putting more strain than it needs to on your gfx card?
>>333027797
>mfw mgs2 is real
>>333027848
Honestly not that big a deal. I'm fine taking a graphical hit for such a huge boost in immersion.
>>333027925
No, the breakout box takes the image going to the left eye puts it on the tv and unwarps it.
>>333027925
thats what the little box is for or something
VR WAS A MISTAKE
>>333027797
>training young kids to be kids
>>333027994
>IT IS GONNA BE MAINSTREAM
>they literally looks like cocaine addicts
>>333027892
/r9k/ is a facebook frog meme factory
>>333027797
>>333027998
*killers
>getting hype for a gen 1
you did it to yourselves
What IS the next great technological innovation that will change gaming? Surely we can't be just getting machines that are just basically more powerful variations of each other.
>>333027446
Real talk my nigga
>>333027994
>Brad went fat and now he's going gray as well
god damn it
>>333028112
anon
it was funny and a deep sense of humor and tragedy
and you ruined it
>>333028164
Simulated Reality in the style of Matrix/Inception
>>333027994
well of course it's going to be a bit tight when you're morbidly obese
>>333028164
what about actual gameplay innovation instead of muh hardware ?
>>333027337
Is gonna like the pong console
And another One and another One and another One...
Real VR is a COMA also
>VR was doomed from the start
>VR could have been great
>PS4 needs a new machine
>Rift is botnet
>Vive is a niche market for room scale
This could have been great, and it's all going to fail.
>>333028276
You mean like vr with motion controls
>These losers aren't part of the chemistry lab master race
Goggle rings all day bruv
I'm optimistic about HTC Vive, but I will wait for a 2nd generation device, after the new wave of graphics cards hits as well.
There are still a few major hurdles for all VR to overcome - cost and processing efficient eye tracking, wireless, and pixel density especially.
>>333028313
Furst gen
If vr is worth a shit we'll see more models
Right now it is a gimmick tho
>>333028276
When games become entirely physics based instead of having rigid animations/hitboxes/hitscan etc.
>>333028398
shut up lab rat and get back to work
>>333027892
Tryhard faggots children on reddit who see /r9k/ as a source of originality.
>>333028398
>not using a comfy pair of goggles tailor made and custom fit exactly to your skull
Do you even science?
My favorite looking VR games so far are EVE Valkyrie and Battlezone.
Are there any other Space/mech/tank games I should look up?
>It's like a screen on your eyes you can see what's happening in front of you
>Sometimes you can turn your head and the camera will move
>Can't I just do that with a mouse
>No but the fact it's all you can see means it'll FEEL like you're right there
>Can't I just look at a computer/tv screen and move a thumbstick/mouse to achieve the same thing
>Trust me this will CHANGE GAMING
I never bought in to the idea that enclosing your vision around glasses shaped little baby screens would create 500 dollars worth of "immersion" just like my expensive headphones don't suddenly make me believe I'm inside DA GAME WORLD.
The entire craze of people saying this will change gaming remind me of the guys who say a film for the first time and freaked out thinking a train was coming at them and they would die.
>>333028164
probably overlaid environments
interchangable obstacle pieces where you get computerized goggles in a giant hangar-like room that you run around and do shit in
>>333028593
>ilm for the first time and freaked out thinking a train was coming at them and they would die.
That was very likely a lie by the yellow journalist who wrote it.
I think VR has a promising future, but it's also maybe 10 years or so before we actually see it develop into something more than a gimmick. The VR we're seeing right now is like the first attempts at 3D games.
The main priority should be to make it smaller and unobtrusive.
>>333028560
>A new Battlezone
W H A T
WHAT THE FUCK
HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS!?
Who cares about Rift when Vive is even more expensive and therefore better?
I might buy two, just to max out the betterness.
>"VR is gonna be the next 3D glasses / Kinect gimmick"
>"NO IT ISN'T YOU SHIITER, YOU JUST HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET"
>mfw it really is the new 3D glasses / Kinect gimmick
why not wait for the second gen VR headsets?
why are you buying first gen crap?
you know how many prototypes they made before releasing the consumer version?
just wait
the technology will become cheaper and cheaper. especially with other competitors.
> New product X comes out
> Has very few games because it just came out
> "Product X is dead, it has no games"
You could just wait till it has more games you know, but then again we would have no fresh meme shit to spout.I really need a vacation from /v/ but I have a fucking problem
>>333028593
You can look one direction and shoot/interact in another.
With the 1hand controllers it can change how FPS games are played tremendously.
VR is actually pretty cool, I feel sorry for the poorfags.
Maybe take up a new hobby? one more suited to your lifestyle.
Has MagicLeap done anything new, or are they still just hiding all their shit for now? Their patents sound the most promising to the point of solving the pixellation/screen door effect, they've got the full weight of Google behind them, yet all they've ever done is show a BS video for VCs and given a tightly controlled demo to one or two journalists.
>>333028679
Yes, actually, there is no proof anyone has found that that actually was true. Basically just a myth.
>carmack's work after id is now ruined because of facebook
can the man get a break?
>>333025457
im getting a drone with live vr viewing this week, i honestly don't care. Japan will make it better, mark my words.
>>333028769
It can't succeed because then they'll be excluded from it.
Do you KNOW how badly people's feeling will be hurt if they're not part of the next big thing because they can't afford it? A lot.
>>333028680
>it's also maybe 10 years or so before we actually see it develop into something more than a gimmick.
Not really, the early devkits were gimmicky, but the retail versions not as much.
>>333028739
Have you tried it yet?
>>333026479
Would you believe Gaben was handsome once?
>>333028808
He lost integrity by sticking with Oculus after their selling out to Facebook. Should've gone with Valve.
>>333028838
>>333028769
>early adopter tears
>>333028757
>You could just wait till it has more games you know
If nobody buys it no games are gonna come out for it.
You need a KILLER APP if you have no games. Look at the fucking Nintendo 64. It literally had like 2 games at launch - but at least it had a killer app - Mario 64.
What killer app does VR have? Shit fucking all.
Man future generations will look back at VR the same way we look back at people smoking in the 50s nowadays.
We mock ads where the father blows smoke right into the face of his toddler or pregnant wife and then we strap on two screens directly to our face and wonder why our eyesight is getting worse.
>>333027763
It's ridge racer! RIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACEEEEEEEER
>tfw we're still long away from decent VR sex
https://youtu.be/HXFCapEFR0E?t=1475
>>333028874
the only tears shed will be those that are wept from the eyes of ignorance.
>>333028740
While i agree with you the technology can't improve without early adopters. If a sizable portion of current adopters followed the logical course (waiting for 'better' tech) then there might not be enough demand to drive creation of better tech, or at the very least, progress would be very, very slow.
Imagine, for example, if Nintendo's Virtual Boy had been successful, we probably would have seen 'Virtual Reality' systems showing up in more refined forms, or as addons around the PS2 / GC era, but because it wasn't successful the entire trend just died for another 20-30 years.
>>333028695
Its PS quadruple exclusive btw.
>>333028871
looks like robin williams
>0.5kg goggles
Yeah this won't get annoying at all. I'll wait for a smaller version.
As a beta tester for the Vive, it's cool but genuinely gimmicky after a while. I will keep saying this until people get it. No, you can't say you tried it and understand. Have it in your home for a while, and you'll see how much the current content will keep you interested. This shit's going to take some years. Not worth being an early adopter at this stage unless you have stupid amounts of money.
>>333028695
Yeah it looks pretty fun.
They are apparently working on multiplayer and they said they had a jump at one point in the game but it was to disorientating but they are working to see what they can do.
>>333028872
> Valve.
> Integrity.
>>333028907
Ya, but everyone will still shout no games, I wasn't talking about the general populous when I said that. I was talking about the shitposters on /v/
>>333028907
The whole sense of presence can be the killer app, but we need demo kiosks in every Walmart in the country for it to be experienced.
Also, the PC had no killer app when it first came out and there were competitions to make it do anything useful. Early adopters wanted it anyway.
>>333028871
looks like the father of Harry Potter
>>333028757
It's even worse.
It has a shit tons of games
>all shovelware
The vast amount of games reveal serious flaws in VR gaming
>tfw roomscale isn't even enough
VR will be great for productivity - but that market is dead silent for some reason. I'd love to be able to use VR with Zbrush - It's screaming for integration
>VR will be for porn and productivity.
>>333029058
>general populous
>>333028915
The eyes focus past the screen. You're thinking of the '3D' used in cinemas.
>>333028560
I'm at least interested in rigs but its not your traditional meh game.
Its basically if mech combat was turned into an organized sport.
>>333029005
you can use it without an empty room, right? or is it mandatory?
>>333028560
Is that the new battlezone?
What the fuck did they do the the arts type. It looks like a fucking cartoon.
Battlezone use to take itself seriously. What the fuck is that joke of a game.
>>333029029
Compared to facebook, yes.
>>333026875
The same thing that oculus was originally going to do with it, sell it. Facebook is a company who's job is to make money and right now their entire platform is based around one website which is slowly dying, its basic business that they would move into new products.
>>333029059
>The whole sense of presence can be the killer app
Dude, that's not how it fucking works. If that were true the 3DO would be successful cause you could say that 3D graphics itself would be a killer app.
Without the content all you got is a demo. A demo ain't a killer app.
>the PC had no killer app when it first came out
Uh...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_1-2-3
how does sticking 2 bright displays right into your eyes not damage your eyes?
>>333029167
>Facebook is a company who's job is to make money
show me a company who isn't job to make money
>>333028978
Are you gay or a woman?
>>333028961
but how do they expect for it to become mainstream when people don't own high end PCs?
do you really think normies will want to be tied down to their PCs to use VR?
they don't even own Windows PCs. most of them have Macbooks.
what Sony is doing for VR is great.
you can use it in your living room and it's not tied down to you buying a $1000+ PC.
>All this cool looking PSVR exclusives
>No support for PC
Why does life have to be such a pain /v/?
>>333025457
How is it dead?
I got to try this shit about a year ago and it was the worst fucking shit ever. The VR machines they had at our local state fair 12 years ago were superior in every way except *barely* graphics (and they still sucked.)
This meme is going to die once people realize how shit the technology is. VR is going to be nothing but Virtual Boy 2.0.
>>333029190
nintendo
>>333028164
Who knows?
Nintendo tried motion controls and glasses-free 3D and neither of those managed to stick around passed their respective gen.
Sony tried Playstation 3D and that died a horrible death.
Microsoft tried camera based motion tracking and that failed.
Everyone and their mother is trying VR and that's failing.
About the only thing that's really stuck around is some form of touch screen gaming that went on mobile, tablets, DS, 3DS, Wii U, Vita and PS4. Nintendo are doubling down on multi-screen gaming with both their DS consoles, the Wii U and it looks like the NX will use it in some form. None of the competition use it though so you can't really say it's changing gaming.
If the NX being a console/handheld hybrid, I could see that turning heads. Especially since the Vita already provided the groundwork. Sadly, like dual screen gaming, I don't see the competition jumping on board so it'll be doomed to Nintendo only irrelevance.
>>333029028
>No jump
Oh, so this is just shitty tacked-on 'game mode'.
Fuck right off, then.
>>333029086
Ok, I meant everyone whowhy am I arguing with you people at 5 in the morning with no sleep
>>333025457
>people still thinking VR will ever be anything but a meme like 3D
>>333029190
I was pointing it out for the anon who asked why a company would buy something
>>333029142
If you want to play "room scale" games. Otherwise you're absolutely going to bang into shit without at the very least 2 x 2 meters of empty space. But at the same time, that room scale content is the gimmicky stuff I'm talking about. What's out there right now doesn't make that much great use of it for long term fun and good content is really lacking in length - basically demos at the moment. Also, tons and tons of shovelware.
>>333029238
It's a meme
>>333029191
>yes goy yes.. the neck ache and eye cancer you're experiencing isn't the product's fault, it's YOUR fault for being too unworthy of it
>VR
Just.... ugh.
So is it just me or does every game limit your movement to a complete crawl? Will there be ANY fast-paced action or are they too scared casuals can't take it?
>>333029315
ok
this sounds like something that disney would use in their theme parks
I really don't have an empty room for this
>>333029292
It's spelled "populace" was my point
It's like smart phones. The earliest smart phones were expensive and could only be afforded by middle class and above. These days, even poor people in 3rd world countries have smart phones.
VR devices that can be used by the masses is no doubt one of the top priorities for VR developers.
>>333029370
whos this girl?
How far is smellovision?
How good is force feedback?
There isn't even an attempt for either unless you count the sex shit. Which makes sense because traditional tv and vidya didn't need them.
Proper actual VR still seems to be far away.
>>333029335
bushido way of life
>>333029396
Yeah, it's definitely really cool for a few times. It's one of those things you'll be glad your friend has but you don't actually want to own yourself.
>>333029329
Have you yourself tried it though? Critics are a bunch of ****.
>>333029183
daylight on a clear day outside has more lumens in a much larger wavelength range (all of it) than any LCD screen will, by an order of magnitude at least.
our eyes just have their own shutters (pupils) and adjust accordingly.
>>333029378
They do it because VR mode only plays comfortable if the speed of movement is the same as in real life.
If it's faster, your brain spergs out and you can get nausea or headache because your eyes and perception aren't used to higher speed / gravity.
>>333025457
>VR is ded meme
Guys will still say this in 3 years when the hardware is cheaper, and most games come for VR.
>>333029398my bad
>>333029370
girls are overrated anyway
>>333029183
Your eyes are designed to take in some light bro, that's how they work.
>>333029180
Hmm, I must be thinking of the Apple II then. Getting old. Then you have this guy of course, who says the first PC was the Simon in 1955.
http://www.blinkenlights.com/pc.shtml
>>333028715
>popular user defined tags
>memes
this is why i literally never use steam for anything other for holding my games
>>333029482
>daylight on a clear day outside has more lumens in a much larger wavelength range (all of it) than any LCD screen will, by an order of magnitude at least.
yeah but in daylight the sun isn't a few centermetres from your face
>>333028739
I never tried any of that Kinect tier bullshit either, and I knew it was a shitty gimmick the first time I heard about it.
Same with VR, really. It's gimmicky bullshit, bound to fail. Gonna send shockwaves throughout the games industry. Mobile gaming is still the future, sadly.
>>333029190
Non for profit companies...
>>333029543
>VR is literally a meme according to Steam
Haha holy shit.
>>333029257
>About the only thing that's really stuck around is some form of touch screen gaming that went on mobile, tablets, DS, 3DS, Wii U, Vita and PS4.
And that's only because if the smartphone form factor- all the benefits it supplied (the smart phone, not form factor) - and as a result touch inputs and technology advanced - out of necessity, not out of actual functionality
-hence why we still have traditional keyboards and mice and it's not all holographic touch shit.
>>333028871
Holy fuck that jawline.
If he got a spiffy cut he'd be quite the handsome devil.
>MFW RAZORFIST FUCKING CALLED IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Vi63wzO0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTA_bjGshy4
>>333029547
:^)
>>333029378
From what I've read any game that requires moving has to place you in a cockpit of some kind to keep your brain from getting angry. Simulating fast body movement doesn't often go as well. If I can sit in a chair and use a thumbstick/trackpad to control forward/back/strafeleft/straferight, I wounder how that would go.
>>333029547
Why the fuck do you think distance matters when it comes to light?
>>333029681
That would work for a mecha game
>>333025457
Says who? I'm loving my Gear VR.
>>333029257
I think more people jumped upon multi-screen gaming than you think, it was just used so poorly and pointlessly that you didn't notice. Remember Smartglass? That's still a thing.
VR has to survive till we get 2 more generations in product. The current HMDs have to low of resolution to be viable. Anyone who says otherwise ether has not had one on or is in full blown shill mode.
>>333029739
It would and we need one.
>>333029783
Yes old TV's emit radiation. Lcd panels do not.
Next question.
>>333029759
>samshit
>>333029783
I gotta say this attempt by Facebook to have EVERY SINGLE PR PHOTO of Oculus with people's mouths open is hilarious.
>>333029501
>3 years
It's going to take longer than 3 years before vr gets widely adopted
>>333029825
Reddit much?
>>333029783
>>333029783
Cathode tube TVs are over anon
Epilepsy from LCD screens is a myth created by soccer moms
>>333025457
>oculus app has to run to use it
>not just a simple dumb driver
>it constantly sends data to cuckerberg
enter the botnet
>>333029860
Insert Zuckock here.
>>333029825
>sleepyhollow_2016.webm
>>333029783
kek
vr is like linux, it will always take off next year
>>333027381
SAUCE?!?
>>333029832
Metal Gear simulator! Choose between Rex, Prototype Ray, Excelsus or remote control Gekko and fuck shit up. I would buy that
Has anyone in this thread used a VR headset in their own room by themselves? How were the video games and virtual porn?
>>333029783
That's because your ugly fucking kid head is blocking my vision you worthless shit!
>>333027624
Zbrush user here
No - no you cant/
Sculpting in VR (currently) is like trying to write out a contract with finger paint.
Sure - yeah, you can do it... but why?
It adds nothing to the productivity currently that a simple monitor and a drawing tablet does 100 times better.
>THIS IS GONNA BE THE YEAR OF VR
>scratches 2016 off the blackboard
>THIS IS GONNA BE THE YEAR OF VR!
>scratches 2017 off the blackboard
>THIS IS GONNA BE THE YEAR OF VR!!
>scratches 2018 off the blackboard
>THIS IS GONNA BE THE YEAR OF VR!!!
>repo men repossess the blackboard
Who else /cuckedbyshipping/ here?
So many pre-orderfags have gotten screwed for one reason or another.
I think Id have an easier time simply masquerading as an indie/reviewer so they sent me an early set.
>>333029825
I would understand if this thing was still in development but these are the finished games.
How is this okay?
>>333029836
>Yes old TV's emit radiation. Lcd panels do not.
You clearly don't know what radiation is. Which either means you're a kid you can't blame for saying stupid things, because you're a child. Or it's because you're an adult idiot.
Which is it?
>>333029960
>Metal Gear simulator!
>not choosing among meryl, eva, joy, mei ling, natasha, naomi, quiet...
>>333029496
>there will never be Ballistics: VR Edition
https://youtu.be/BXj5tuAtfGs?t=33
>>333030000
Check them by the way.
>>333027458
pc gaming used to be a niche for rich kids and enthusiasts. A thousand dollar entry fee didn't stop the market back in the 90's
Literally the only video games I can see genuinely BENEFITING from VR are porn games.
Everything else is just a neat gimmick.
And frankly I'm not shelling out for a porn site subscription so I'm not shelling out for meme peripheral to enhance my meat flute solos.
>>333030027
What's wrong with it?
>>333029960
All you're ever going to get from Konami now is Metal Gear VR Pachinko
>>333030015
you can use both hands
or not?
>>333030038
Those don't have cockpits
...
...
...
They are cockpits
>>333030073
Traditionally when the camera is able to clip into solid objects we would call that a broken game.
>>333030060
>pc gaming used to be a niche for rich kids and enthusiasts. A thousand dollar entry fee didn't stop the market back in the 90's
Because throughout most of the nineties all you needed for gaming was a fast CPU.
A faster CPU could easily be justified for improved productivity purposes considering how shitty computers were at multitasking back then.
>>333026345
It can't you cuck, there's a reason ir headtracking has been a thing for a decade for space sims, flight games, and ARMA
>>333029525
>>333029482
If I turn my my monitor up to full brightness I feel sick and get a headache and my sleep is fucked for the entire night. I can up to 5 out 100
>>333030029
>what are electron guns in cathode tube displays
>>333029132
Is that aiming by looking?
>>333030140
Ummm, he moved in a game where you're strapped into a race car. What do you think the alternative is?
>>333030091
What would you need to use both hands for?
Anon there's a thing called "mirror modifier" that's infinitely better than using two hands simultaneously.
Besides you already use both hands, left hand for accessing shortcuts, pressing hotkeys, holding down buttons and right hand for sculpting and moving around the model.
>>333030024
if you can do it
>poorfags trying to bash VR to make themselves feel better
>tfw I'll be fucking you're waifu this tuesday when my Vive arrives
>>333030251
Yes but they apparently have another control scheme which isn't that.
>>333030080
So Kojima Productions is still under Konami?
>>333030189
Then you have a genetic disorder which doesn't affect most people. Sorry buddy vr isn't for you.
>cuck
What does this word even mean anymore?
>>333030271
edit more polygons at the same time
>>333030140
>broken
>still completely playable
You do not call this broken, retard
>>333030337
it means you
>>333028451
Unfortunately, "physics" in the sense of the dynamics of reality can't be simulated, because simulation assumes away what's important about reality. Once you decide you want to impose objects and essences on the world, like "players" and "weapons" and "NPCs" and "damage," you no longer have physics per se and instead have whatever model popped in to some programmer's head. All we can really hope for is slightly less shitty models, which isn't so much physics as it is "technology."
>>333030251
>>333030315
it looks like he's in a mech and he's around with the VR but aiming the mech with the controller.
>>333030337
black men are now shafted by women like white men
>>333030191
>what is radiation
>>333030362
Alright then Skyrim is a perfect game with no bugs either.
>>333030252
Stop the camera from escaping the bounds of the car.
>>333027921
For once, this 1000$ PC meme is accurate. You need a really good GPU to run VR.
>>333030337
cuck is a man who's wife fucks other men.
think about what kind of man this is. this man is also the kind of man who bought the oculus rift.
>>333030091
You use both your hands in zbrush.
one to draw and one to manipulate the various modifiers and handle the short cuts.
You simply don't have the same level of precision in VR - nor will you ever unless you run with the same setups (tablet, keyboard).
VR can improve 3d sculpting productivity in the sense it can make your work space huge - it won't do anything for improving the actual sculpting process.
Using touch, the motion controls, or any kind of 3d spacial tracking - especially without any kind of tactile feedback means that will always just be a gimmick.
hell , you would be better served sculpting with real clay or wax then 3d scanning in the scuplt than you would be by trying to "hand sculpt" in 3d VR.
It's a dumb gimmick.
>>333030418
in that game they have always showed it off with headmovement controlling where you go, but they added a control scheme that is normal on player feedback.
>>333030337
Cuck now means anything that takes advantage of you with your willful participation.
>>333030469
true
I think nvidia is starting to design gpus specifically made for vr
>>333029335
>>333029252
le same fag meme ?? sa ge
>>333028871
>implying he isn't handsome right now
>>333030464
And cause major nausea due to mismatch between movement and display, great idea.
>>333030551
>mouse and keyboard better than hands
yes but zbrush with vive motion controls I think would be actually better
>>333030449
An electron beam is a stream of ionizing radiation.
It's intense beta radiation.
>>333027149
>>333025759
>>333025457
>>333027994
Doesn't happen when the headset is adjusted properlyand you're not obese.
>>333027051
That was all to produce the DK1. The Kickstarter had already been fulfilled.
>>333027562
>>333027465
Sounds like a bad demo. Even the DK2 didn't have problems that bad when used correctly.
>>333027591
Rift and PSVR don't rest on the bridge of your nose, the weight is distributed evenly over your skull when adjusted correctly. Almost no weight on your face at all.
There are plenty of good games. Doesn't cause eyestrain.
>>333028560
Battle Zone looks super cool but I'm not a fan of look to aim. EVE Valkyrie looks alright but the flight model is plebtier compared to Elite.
>>333029564
>>333028739
I see you haven't tried it.
>>333028593
It's so much more than that. You can walk around in a 3D environment. You can focus your eyes on virtual objects just as you would with real ones. It's nothing like a 3D TV whatsoever.
>>333030607
Might as well go the whole way since right now it's causing major nausea by being a piece of shit gimmick you strap to your face which doesn't have any good games.
Makes me sick.
>>333030573
le butthurt nintoddler meme
>>333030682
your beta
>>333030573
i've no problem posting this picture on the left for what I care
and no, it wasn't me
>>333030449
Are you actually retarded or just pretending?
>>333029820
How low resolution? what would you compare it to?
I tried Oculus at gamescom last year, it was alright but I only really see VR working with driving games or rail shooters since vr movement is horrible.
I was on this platform thing that reads your movement and transfers it to the game, so you walk by walking irl. It was horrible as fuck.
>>333030695
Battlezone isn't look to aim.
>>333030707
>Internet argument wins: 1001
*tips hat*
Good day sir :^)
>>333030750
but she caught me on the camera
>>333029452
>How far is smellovision?
>you will never be able to sniff your waifu's ass in VR
>>333030189
Probably because the room around you is too dark, creating a contrast.
>>333029059
>>333029180
Killer app will be social VR. Mark my words. There is nothing like it, it's a bizarre experience talking to someone through body language in a virtual environment.
>>333029250
Give it a try again, there were probably problems with the people that setup those machines. There are lots of places around the world where you can try a VR demo today, like PC World in the UK and more are coming.
>>333029370
>>333029520
>>333029429
She actually loves VR. She's a VR developer and didn't realise that she had such a sober face when uploading the video.
>>333029378
You have experiences in warehouses and such similar to laser-tag that allow you full free movement. Other than that probably not.
>>333029867
Palmer estimates at least 5.
>>333030024
Sucks but at least we're getting free shipping I guess.
>>333030018
Follow any tech or game conferences it's all VR all the time
>>333030063
>Literally the only video games I can see genuinely BENEFITING from VR are porn games.
Stop thinking about the validity of game ports from flatscreen to VR.
Games that go well on flatscreen kb+mouse aren't going to be working well on VR and vice versa.
Room based puzzle games on classic doesn't work nearly as well as on VR for example. Picking up and rotating an object is clunky with mouse+kb. With motion controllers you just reach out, grab and rotate as if holding it with a pincer. Or you can lay down on the floor and actually look underneath a table to see the clue written there. That's much more immersive than doubletapping crouch to go prone and then looking up at a neckbreaking angle as with mousekb.
It's a different medium. It's like comparing board games to computer games. There's an overlap for simple turn based that works for both, but the majority of computer games operates in a space that's simply not feasible to achieve with boardgames.
>he cant afford a 600 dollar device
>>333031089
>She actually loves VR. She's a VR developer and didn't realise that she had such a sober face when uploading the video.
>She
>VR developer
facebook and google are both front companies for black underground technology you stupid fat manchild faggots
>>333030891
>VR is great!
>Forget the fact that it's been out a week and no one gives a shit already.
The gimmick faded faster than I expected.
>>333030695
How much are you being paid?
>all these psychics who just KNOW it will flop
Jesus christ.
>>333031241
>You need to be psychic to see into the past
Did you miss the part where this thing is released to the general public as a commercial product?
>>333029183
>how does sticking 2 bright displays right into your eyes not damage your eyes?
For the same reason going out on a sunny day doesn't damage your eyes.
Just lower the brightness if you've got photophobia.
>>333029954
"Clever? Solution"
by
Syati Kamaboko
>>333031241
>I bought it so it's not going to flopo
>>333030654
Nah - it won't. Ignoring the keyboard for a second - just focusing on a drawing table (essentially the same precision as a pen and piece of paper) - there is no tactile anchor with the Vive controls - they float and are essentially extensions of your wrist movement.
Imagine holding a stick with a marker attached to the end - not a long stick about the size of the vive controller - Now imagine signing your name on a dry erase board. Ok - now imagine signing your name "in the air" without any physical object pushing back. Now imagine signing your name with a normal pen on a piece of paper that's on a desk.
>That's the difference.
The tablet is essentially a piece of paper on a desk with a pen. Vive's tracking is like signing your name in the air with a 3d tracked marker - and it shows in their "paint" demo.
It works as somethign fun to do - it doesn't work within a precision workflow.
---
Places VR will be great for in 3d asset creation -
>Environmental creation for blocking out
>reviewing and QCing asset creation and design
>Level design review and possibly level design blocking out
>Atmosphere direction and review.
It will be good for department heads (once all the software has been created and curated) - to review the work on big AAA project. Take the starting tavern in Witcher 3 - in the future project leads will be able to "walk around" inside of it to make sure everything is as it should be.
Or to look at an asset up close in a fluid manner- like GranTurismo cars - they will sit in them and make sure nothing is clipping and all the textures look good.
What VR won't be used for is any sort of precision work - this includes any mesh work - it's way too imprecise and it has not tactile anchor point (not practical anyway).
Maybe in the future they will have more precise tools that will let you lean against a physical wall with a VR pen and draw/design in the virtual world - but we already have that, it's called a drawing tablet.
>>333029183
Your eyes are muscles and strain makes them stronger over time.
>>333031320
>"released"
>the majority of people who pre-ordered it still haven't even had theirs shipped
>if anyone was to buy it, they won't get one till June at the earliest
>>333030015
Yeah I kinda feel this way about it. It's obviously going to be far less accurate than traditional methods because your hands are nowhere near as precise as a snap to grid mouse or entering precise values with the keyboard.
Though I do see immense benefits for architecture and CAD I don't see motion controls being a part of that.
>>333030803
Oh cheers, I got the wrong impression from some of the videos.
>>333031231
Enough that I'm getting both the Vive and Rift.
>>333031190
Good point her vagina must really get in the way
>>333030732
Do the world a favor and kill yourself
>>333031449
>It's not released because the company couldn't meet pre-order numbers which they had for three years
>This somehow isn't a flop
>>333030015
>Zbrush user here
>Sculpting in VR (currently) is like trying to write out a contract with finger paint.
Because
>you don't have a vive and base it on assumption
>like any new device it takes a while to get used to it
>zbrush or other sculpting programs have either no VR support at all or only a rudimentary beta support only.
>>333031463
>Maiden honor status: Defended
>Maiden courtship status: Pending
>>333030586
that image is 2 years old
>>333031463
Shit I forgot to attach a Palmer
>>333031580
She will fall for my keyboard warrior charms
>>333031406
it think this can be solved by adding force feedback
but I agree, it's not made to use with real programs
>>333031241
>VR is new!!
You know they have been pushing this gimmick for over 20 years right?
It's only made a resurgence because of normalfags getting into "Tech".
>>333031089
>Follow any tech or game conferences it's all VR all the time
CES 2010
nothing but 3D glasses
>>333029370
>when-the-BBC-discovers-waifu-porn.jpg
>>333031578
No - because looking to VR for 3d productivity is like looking to blimps for air travel -
Yes -there are some benefits - but there are obvious drawbacks - but apparently only those who actually use the programs understand these drawbacks.
Like I've laid out - what makes things like zbrush work (ignoring maya or max which need you to be able to enter in values all the time) - is the tactile anchor of the tablet. The same way you can write easily on a desk - and less so on a large book placed on your lap - that instability to the point of having NO anchor (Vr tracking) makes precision work impossible. This isn't an opinion thing - this is glaringly obvious to anyone who has ever drawn on a piece of paper before. Then again what I'm replying to is bordering on shill or bait - not sure which, maybe both?
>>333031924
This is what I said about 3D movies 5 years ago.
>>333029496
>>333029681
>Giving your brain a new experience is bad
When did video games die? No, really, when did the moms who got a headache from the gameboy screen and complained about square eyes win?
>>333031463
>hands are nowhere near as precise as a snap to grid mouse
You can snap to grid with a 3D controller too.
They're both optically tracked devices but don't let technical facts stop your ignorant speculation.
>entering precise values with the keyboard
Something you do all the time when you sculpt amirite? And when you need it you can easily add 3D UI popups for precise number selection.
The major obstacle is that VR interfacing is a very new so there have been very little time to experiment with interfaces and to get used to said experimental interfaces.
Or perhaps hunt and peck typing in computer naive keyboard users are a proof that touch typing is impossible and cursive will always be faster?
While we're on the topic of futuristic displays, I had this idea for a hologram: If an electron emits light when it falls an energy level getting closer to the nucleus, then wouldn't it also emit light if you fired an electron off and then created a field of positive charge, so it's like the electron fell towards the nucleus?
>>333025928
>$400
>sub 100 FOV
>VR with blinkers on
>literally useless with PS4 tier hardware
It's like they want it to fail.
>>333029370
>man throwing into the air and then catching a bunch of PS4 games.webm
>>333028937
>Swedish fat manlet with glowing yellow teeth talking about his masturbation habbits
Why is British TV so disgusting?
>>333025871
They're not even aware of it happening.
>>333027245
Than they can connect the vr directly to our brains.
>>333032207
You don't 3d model do you?
>>333026930
That stuff was the shit.
>>333032498
>bug in game
>die
I hope it wont be too painful
>>333028937
>That networked fleshlight that allows you to give someone a VR handjob
Future is going to be lewd as shit.
14.00 for anyone who is curious.
>>333026474
I'm not willing to pay 2000€ for a PC that will get obsolete in a couple of years.
I won't pay for VR, either cause it looks like shit.
>>333032112
>No - because looking to VR for 3d productivity is like looking to blimps for air travel -
Blimps are 2D. Airplane travel is 3D. You're just so biased to what you're used to.
>the tactile anchor of the tablet.
Is slightly helpful when you work with the limitations of 2D displays and 2D input surfaces. But what it really is is a bullshit explanation like "the spirited animal impulses is why a horse will always be superior to a car". A farfetched explanation that tries to justify your conservative bias.
>>333032332
Its not sub 100, its 100.
>>333032951
So you don't 3d model - do you?
>>333032207
>Or perhaps hunt and peck typing in computer naive keyboard users are a proof that touch typing is impossible and cursive will always be faster?
I touch type ~100WPM myself and I'm always typing with my DK2 on. But I don't expect that to be a standard method of interaction. I'm a software engineer and most other developers I know can't touch type despite spending all day on a PC.
Anyway I'm not a modeler, I'd be curious what /3/ thinks of it.
>>333031931
Fair point I guess. I'm confident it'll survive, we'll know within 5 years.
>>333033032
It's sub 100.
The specs say it's 'about' 100
I'm going to wager that means sub.
Probably 90
>People thinking VR is dead
The porn industry is getting into VR, its a confirmed succuss.
Not to say there will be any good games for it for a while.
>>333033346
You need to look up the new spec sheets from gdc.
http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-playstation-vr/
>>333033357
>muh VHS won due to porn so VR will win due to porn meme
>>333033474
>Muh VHS
And DVD
And Blu Ray.
>>333032525
I do.
And I also remember painstakingly getting used to it and developing a decent workflow.
And before you try to make some shitty arguments about the absolute necessity of isometric views aligned to the axes being impossible in 3D and absolutely necessary for your special snowflake inflexible workflow: You can generate such viewports within the 3D ui and leave them hanging in space.
The ability to see the models in a 3D space and manipulate them with 3D tools is enormously beneficial and superior. Once you get over your "back in my days"-granny mindset and denial you too will realize it.
>>333033557
>And DVD
DVD didn't have any legitimate competition.
>And Blu Ray.
It won due to Hollywood movie studios picking sides.
>>333033623
>It won due to Hollywood movie studios picking sides.
>Being this retarded
It won because the porn industry used it.
>>333033474
It just means there will be a market for it that doesn't need anymore innovation than has already been established.
"room scale" is perfect for porn - you can have the 3d assets come to you and it doesn't detract from the experience.
"Room scale" can't do open world without teleportation gimmick and shit.
>insert machine fleshlight and V stroker
The tech is already there for an acceptable Porn VR expearience. It's probably going to be the only thing that comes close to the "promise".
It's ironic that VR will be shitty for gaming for the foreseeable future- but awesome for porn.
I dread to imagine an eyestrain this shit gives you after a few hours.
>>333026716
i lost a hat at toys r us because of this piece of shit and my dad beat the shit out of me for it
i hate you so fucking much, virtual boy
>>333033445
>>333033346
Even that wasn't from GDC sorry.
http://www.wareable.com/project-morpheus/oculus-rift-versus-project-morpheus
>>333033039
I do. I've also had the opportunity to try tiltbrush and it's an amazingly fucking fantastic experience.
But brainlets like you see a 2D tiltbrush video on your 15" shitty laptop monitor and think that it's exactly the same as the actual experience of it.
You haven't tried the Vive - have you?
>>333033718
You should probably hate your dad more.
>>333025457
>cuckulus
>>333025842
I view current VR the same way we saw console FPS 20 years ago. At the time no console FPS had a control scheme good enough to make the experience truly worthwhile. It took Halo to make the genre work on consoles. That's what we are waiting for now, the VR version of Halo.
>>333034326
>It took Halo to make the genre work on consoles.
Yeah because Goldeneye doesn't exist.
Faggot.
>>333026716
You're suggesting the tech is there now? HAHAHAHA
>>333032139
3D movies only still exist because they're forced on customers. A lot of times cinemas don't even screen the 2D version, or they do, but in lower quality.
>>333033610
uhhh
You are either an amateur or full of shit just trying to google fu and wikipedia your experience in hopes of out-pacing the challenge and get the last (shill) word in.
>The ability to see the models in a 3D space and manipulate them with 3D tools is enormously beneficial and superior. Once you get over your "back in my days"-granny mindset and denial you too will realize it.
You are a sunk cost fallacy shill thinking the 2016 kinect will revolutionize the way you can edit spread sheets while calling yourself an accountant.
Don't laud VR for bullshit premise wishful thinking. You will end up as bad as all the shovel-ware developers.
>>333027553
Man I miss these.
Normies and jews ruined it before it was alive
>>333034423
Yeah the only difference between then and now is that Virtual Boy was just 1 Japanese videogame company just selling a product.
"Modern VR" is three tech companies urging that "The tech is there" and exploiting gaming media to pretend their unfinished, poorly designed product have been fully realised and that they aren't just a bunch of prats with egg on their face for even thinking they could produce good VR.
>>333034416
I actually played Goldeneye back when it came out. It played like shit compared to Halo and was borderline unplayable next to something like Quake.
>>333034702
>it doesn't count because I think it's shit!
Doesn't change that Goldeneye laid the groundwork for console shooters long before Halo came along.
>>333029783
Wont it damage your eyesight though?
>>333034480
>In denial: The post
Cute.
Oculus Rift is ap iece of shit and I have no idea why Facefuck bought it.
Get a Vive
Over on /r/Oculus right now there is a literal shill thread reminding everyone on Oculus to buy as much shovel-ware as possible so VR can be great again - you can't make this up.
>>333035081
>literally unironically going to reddit
Fuck off
>>333025457
>buying the ocucklus
Vive is the only proper headset.
>>333035162
I look at tales from tech support from time to time
>>333035063
>I have no idea why Facefuck bought it.
Jumping on the VR Bandwagon for some quick shekels
>>333035220
If you want to see fake stories that people write on the internet you can go a lot better.
>>333035010
>Projection: The Sequel
The thing is, you are playing to the audience - of who I don't really care. I'm talking to you - and you know I'm right no matter how you try outwardly represent yourself.
>>333034965
There's a few reports of eye cancer and blindness but they're supposedly due to "other" factors.
Never mind that eye cancer in both eyes are virtually impossible to get in adulthood. It's other factors, not that they all used the Vive or rift devkits for 6 hours per day.
>>333035162
You mean you don't like watching the salt being harvested at its source, really? Your loss.
>>333035291
If you weren't in denial you wouldn't be so buttflustered and keep replying with your damage control posts.
Gee, I wonder why.
>>333031924
VR started in 40s.
>>333034326
Console FPS are still shit.
>>333035393
God, he looks so disgusting
>>333035291
Hi. The 'audience' here. Just a friendly reminder we're not even fucking paying attention so do whatever.
>>333035318
Nontheless, I imagine it would cause strain.
>>333034965
Eyesight isn't damaged from having a source of light near your eye. It's damaged from focusing on close stuff for long periods. Even reading damages your eyes if you do it for too long without breaks to focus on stuff that's far away. VR will actually be better for you since you'll usually be focusing on a far off spot like you would in real life. The lenses create optical distance, so even though the screen is only a few inches away, it's like you're looking at whatever you're supposed to be looking at.
>>333035451
We need better checks and balances to insure ugly people never succeed. Even one falling through the cracks is one too many.
>>333035318
>There's a few reports of eye cancer and blindness
absolute bullshit
>>333029167
>right now their entire platform is based around one website which is slowly dying
you know facebook owns instagram right? they've covered the "facebook isn't cool" by buying the cool social network
>>333035442
I think, "gimmick" aside the Wiimote + Nunchuk was a really good control scheme for console FPS.
A literal point and shoot movement, almost as good as a mouse.
Too bad hardly any games used it.
Gamepad gyroscope is almost as good as Wiimote but even less games use that.
>>333035392
>Projection Episode I, Get Projected!: The Prequel
So is the reply to this post the last word then?
>>333035623
>the wiimote was a good FPS controller
How do I get in on the ground floor of this sick new meme?
>>333032461
>BBC Three
M8 it's BBC's shit channel
>>333030695
>Doesn't happen when the headset is adjusted properly and you're not obese.
Well that rules out the entire gaming market.
>>333035685
>Projection: Revelations
>>333032881
Welcome to TELEDILDONICS
Trust me you dumb goys.
>>333035978
There is something incredibly symbolic about this picture.
>>333025457
VR
>Expensive
>Uses a controller
It's a fucking overpriced tv screen you put right up to your eyes. Which is exactly what you're not supposed to do with a tv screen.
You can watch 3D porn on your 3DS
>>333036059
You should try it. It's nothing like you think.
>>333025928
>Introduce new VR to consumers and show that people will buy it for 400$ which is cheap compared to other options
>introduce the most powerful console ever for 400$
>still cheaper than HTC Vive and Oculus VR + Oculus Touch
How?!
>>333025457
Wow, who would've thought that VR would be a shitty gimmick
Occulus and Vive will be abandonware within a couple of years because they don't have dedicated developers for them
>>333035978
the fat guy right next to him is either thinking of a dentist appointment or he is literally making the not bad obama meme face right there, I don't know whats better.
>>333030469
No it's not, my PC was 650 exactly a year and a half ago and I can run the vive just fine and have been. You retards that don't know what you're talking about need to stop pretending you do. There's a reason they make consoles
>>333036235
they do tho
lots
>>333036050
Everyone is blind,believing a lie while some who has both eyes open control them and is free.
Wait and see anons. Let the cucks buy it all out and, see who is the Blu-ray and who is the HDDVD this time around.
>>333036216
7000 triangles max at any one time - minimal or no textures or shaders- 2 generations ago lighting and material effects.
Hold on- are we talking about VR for console or consoles themselves?
I'd been wondering why there were no fucking games for the thing yet. As I'm sure it can't be that hard if tons of indies are doing it.
Then their TOS comes out and says if you use the Rift for development, they can literally do whatever they want with your game. Including giving it away to everyone in the world for free without giving you a cent.
This is so much worse than the Xbone. But it effects developers only, so most people just don't realize how bad this is going to crash and burn yet.
>>333036314
When VR bombs and people realize it's shit, the developers are going to abandon the platform because there's no money to find there.
Sony VR will keep going for some reason because Sony themselves will keep developing shit for it.
>>333036283
are you talking about dollars pounds or euros? Wouldn't be the first time someone "accidentally" mixes up currency like that here.
VR is dead on arrival because of the price tag
The only way you're making a profit nowadays is if you cater to the casual gamer, but with these insane prices no one is actually going to buy it other than people who are into these sort of gadgets and technologies
>>333036406
The only way that TOS makes any sense is if OR was a monopoly.
Don't be silly. You'll get a VR set soon because of this.
IDGAF about VR games but I'm pretty excited for VR porn
>>333026716
>3D with glass trick is VR
shit was already in cinemas in the 50's.
>>333036605
But I have a rl wife, why would I give a shit about this? fuckin kek.
>>333030695
Wow this is just embarrassing.
>>333032386
underrated
>>333036441
it's not tho
you should actually try it
>>333026716
>VR failed once before
>once
>>333036680
Is your wife an anime babe with massive oppai? Didn't think so.
>>333032139
>3D movies 5 years ago.
but 3D movies have existed for 60+ years already
>972.20 yuropean yuros
th-thanks
>>333036680
Because not everyone has a happy life like you do apparently.
>>333036752
She is oppai but she is real unlike anime babes. She just made me dinner, good luck with your cheap vr knock-off.
>>333034326
You're a clueless fucking moron and you should be fired out of a cannon into the sun.
Halo didn't invent shit. In fact, you could objectively label it as the game that RUINED console FPS games irrevocably.
Instead of aiming for a fun arcade feel due to an inferior control scheme, Halo chose to implement lazy auto-aim garbage to make dumb casuals feel like they were actually playing the game instead of just letting it do everything difficult for them. Regenerating health dumbed the genre down to new lows, and the 2 weapon system made combat dull.
Nothing could be thought up with the current hardware on offer to make VR gaming valid. It's objectively worse than existing solutions for the only genre it might have had any impact on, sim games. Inventing a new genre? You're just going to end up with Wii Sports 2.
VR is dead because none of the VR producers have officially endorsed VR porn, and taken the mantle of the definitive VR porn system.
Porn literally prints money. Just look at VHS
>>333036680
>>333036793
NORMIES FUCK OFF
>All the stupid in this thread
Lets clear some things up. VR is the future. There is no question about that. Its being pushed by Facebook and the porn industry hard.
>B-but anon the video games are shit!
Who cares. You think Facebook care? They didn't buy Oculus for video games, they bought it for the social aspect. Shitty normie crap like Second Life is going to be huge with VR. Snapchat and other bullshit mobile social network shit is going to use VR. VR isn't going anywhere.
>B-but the price!
Normies have jobs, anon. Mobile VR is already big, and the Oculus has sold a ton, Vive will too. Give it another 5 years and it'll be even cheaper.
All that said, its still shit. VR is shit, but its the future.
>>333036775
I know but if I can do it so can others. I am not exactly Chad or Brad Pitt either.
>>333036820
go back to plebbit kiddo.
>>333026930
OMG, I had forgot those existed. I loved them.
>>333036751
>I was 1 years old when this magazine cover was released
>>333036825
>VR is the future
>>333036803
>halo didn't invent shit
>but i blame it for inventing everything common in modern FPS
>>333036863
oh look a memelord.
Call me when they can just drug me up to lucid ream whenever I want.
>>333036825
>VR is the future
>"The Future of Gaming"
>>333036751
>>333036837
Apparently, it's not always like that.
>>333036825
>>Lets clear some things up. VR is the future. There is no question about that. Its being pushed by Facebook and the porn industry hard.
This doesn't mean anything. Videophone was pushed hard. 3D TVs were pushed hard.
What matters for hardware are 2 elements. Does it drastically reduce cost over an existing product? No. Does it bring something new to the table that people will be interested in for more than 5 minutes? No.
What actually is the future is AR. But that's a completely different type of technology.
>>333036879
I think he meant to say that it "introduced" things that were there already in other games and made them popular and then others copied it as well. Nice strawman though.
>>333036889
how did you get that i was a lord of memes through my post?... not that you're wrong
>There are cucks on this board who paid SEVEN HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE DOLLARS for a first gen fucking useless gimmick hardware
That's why I am and will always remain the anti-hype.
I don't get excited when something new is announced or released. When it does finally release, I'll check it out either in a store or through a friend who was dumb enough to buy it day one, cause I have several of those.
Once I feel like the product is good enough for the price they're selling it at, I buy it. For new technologies this usually takes between 2-4 years depending on how fast new models are developed. I remember having to pay a fortune for SD cards way back, now they're cheap as can be.
>>333036941
It is, even fat ugly losers can get a gf, there is no excuse unless you look like that thing from the Goonies.
>>333035081
>preorder both the vive and oculus
>two products that are basically the same in term of specs
>rather than an oculus/vive and then some other random shit that has like 120fps or ridiculous FoV like StarVR
jesus fucking christ for what purpose
>>333036447
Dollars. I'm an amerifat
>>333036879
Combining awful elements from other popular titles and then marketing the everloving shit out of what was a completely average FPS as a killer app for your new console isn't really inventing anything.
>>333030586
>Gabe is going to die any day now from heart failure
>Before HL3 is released
not sure how to feel about this tbhwy lads
The Wii was popular with the normies because it was affordable
Buying a piece of gimmick hardware for 500-800 dollars (even more expensive outside of the US) is not affordable. Normies would rather just buy a fucking console and some games.
>>333036825
It's going to sell well on opening night but so did the fucking Kinect. I just don't think it has enough product quality to justify longevity. To call this the future is at best a pipe dream. In three years 90% of these headsets are going sold at yard sales for 5 dollars or filling up landfills.
>>333037042
Sounds awfully cheap, care to post a speccy for me please? I guess its possible with mail in rebates or xmas sales but still sounds odd/impressive.
>>333036943
>3D TVs were pushed hard.
By Sony. Literally just sony.
>>333037005
then explain why /v/ exists
>>333036948
>"introduced"
Why do you bend over backwards to twist your words around to say Halo isn't the mother of all modern FPS?
Whether you like modern FPS or not, Halo is why it is what it is today.
>>333037076
The biggest mistake in investing in these VR things is that it's first gen technology. It's 100% certain than within very little time they're going to improve on the technology, and then release a new system. And then you have spent 800 dollar on an outdated piece of crap
>>333036995
if they do start demoing VR headsets, i hope they allow you to customize the optical range
if the headset isn't optimised to your pupils it's gonna look like shit
>>333037110
are you confusing /v/ with /r9k/? There is literally tens or hundreds of thousands of married people in their 30s and 40s here. And many mid 20s with gfs. We aren't living in 2008 anymore, although I wasn't a forever alone back then either and neither was everyone else. But what I am trying to say is that plebbit and other sites had a large influx of normies who came here.
>>333027763
COME OVER OVER ME
COME OVER OVER THE TOP
YOU'LL HAVE A NIGHT OF FIRE
>>333037071
>Normies would rather just buy a fucking console and some games.
The normie market has almost completely shifted to phone apps. And for normies, phones are basically free because they buy them on contract.
VR could have actually made it if Apple decided to bundle a cheap piece of plastic like the Gear VR in with their new phone, but it'd increase shipping prices too much due to the extra size. PC based HMDs never had a single hope in hell, there just isn't a customer base for them.
>Oculus Rift induces horrible eyestrain and migraines within minutes of use
THE FUTURE
>>333037128
I think you are projecting your inability to read as bending words onto me, if that is even possible. What I was trying to say is that halo ripped off older games and then other games ripped off the popular halo. I never denied the influence of halo, that was the other guy not me. It would be a contradiction. I am speaking about originality here not denying facts.
>>333037071
>The Wii was popular with the normies because it was affordable
The Wii was popular for the same reason the NES was popular, it didn't look like a video game console.
Console market was dead, so the NES was sold as a entertainment system. Wii sold like hotcakes to normies because it was sold as a fitness device / party game.
If you seriously think "X did well because it was cheap" is a thing, you're an idiot. Just look at how popular iphones are. Piece of shit tech, over priced to fuck, but they make bank because its a known brand, popular and normies don't want to have to think about things.
VR will be the future when its branded correctly, literally all that is needed. AppleVR or iVR etc.
>>333037156
Solid point, but if these fail to sustain profit after release we could see a huge time gap between the first and next generation.
>>333037243
explain ps4 xbone and wii u sales then. They are selling like hotcakes except for wii u. Still all 3 of them attract normies like mad if you add em all up or just look at ps4 only.
>>333030027
end ur life
>>333027446
I never thought about it like this.
>>333035451
>>333035393
He's a jew.
>>333037264
Lets take a look back in time then
>VHS won over betamax because it was the cheaper solution
>>333037264
well ps2 won because it was a dvd player and singstar machine/maybe guitar hero as well.
>>333037264
Just like how Google Glass was so successful.
Doesn't matter about the price, the brand is all that matters!
>Oculus and Vive
>500 and 800 dollar hardware
>Require you to upgrade your PC to pretty current hardware
>Implying normies want to do this and/or want to pay for this
THE FUTURE
Like 90% of normal people just have one or two consoles and then a laptop for work
>>333037428
this. ps vr is the only one which has a chance to take off with the masses as of right now.
>>333037373
Pretty much.
>>333037375
>Hey have you bought google glass bro? Its AR!
>What is AR? Sounds stupid, also isn't google a search engine lol
There, a normie conversation. Hololens has a better chance because people know microsoft, but its still doubtful.
>>333025842
vive seem gud enough
Maybe if they pay WB to shill it on Big Bang Theory, people will get interested in VR
>>333037563
Yeah wait 2 years and say that again
You'll be like "Man Vive was fucking shit, shit resolution, shit latency, shit screen door, shit pixel density" etc.
>>333037186
Apparently /v/irgins and r9k rhymes when it comes to relationships.
Face it, some people are not in a relationship not just because they're unfortunate when it comes to looks - rather they're too demanding when it comes to a "perfect" relationship; hence, fears of relationship fights or discontent towards the opposite sex in their supposedly roles.
>>333036324
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.....
>>333037573
Pretty sure that they will do it for free to stay hip, in and relevant.
>Oculus refunds Rift shipping because they actually ran out of stock (components)
>Vive preordrers get cancelled somehow
So guys, what's the PSVR going to face? general lack of interest? bad rep from plebs using it improperly somehow?
>>333037606
This is true and I would not deny that. My question is why the fuck would you not face reality and have adequate standards. What can you offer a 10/10? Nothing? Then work on yourself or settle for less, better than getting your dick torn apart by a malfunctioning fuckbot. Although that could also help with a real woman if you catch a psycho, kek.
>>333036995
>I don't get excited when something new is announced or released
must suck to be you desu
>>333028439
/thread.
>>333032643
in the current gen of VR, if there will be some kind of screamer (for example, because of dying GPU) you will shit yourself a lot
you won't die, but your mental health will be at risk
>>333037650
PSVR is going to have the most interest because of being the cheapest solution and also having the biggest potential playerbase. Their problem is that games are going to run like shit or look like shit
>>333037743
Not really. I still enjoy the product just as much when I do finally buy it. I'm just setting myself up in a way that I avoid getting disappointed or involved in some heated thread.
>>333034702
Are you serious? The framerate is ass, but at the time, it wasn't something people focused on, and aside from that, Goldeneye controlled very well.
>>333037704
You swayed to preaching. You just made my premise undeniable - that
>Because not everyone has a happy life like you do apparently.
>>333037767
>what is a heart attack
oh you will die.
>>333029496
that is one delicious looking pancake.
>>333027446
>I-It's like I'm the camera
>>333037827
Yeah and you can work for that instead of feeling sorry for yourself and doing fuckall but complaining and hating on normies because they are not miserable.
>>333037787
I actually wanted to say that the PSVR is highly unlikely to suffer from logistic problems like shipping not available or being expensive or running out of stock but I was worried I would sound like I was shilling
>>333037518
>implying google isn't popular
>implying google isn't known
Google runs Youtube, Chrome, Maps, Gmail, Android - everyone knows Google isn't just search engines now and everyone blindly trusts Google without a second thought.
If you don't think Google has brand recognition you need to go outside more. There were people lined up for Google Glass but brand alone wasn't enough to push it because it wasn't affordable to everybody.
The Wii was successful not just because of gimmicks, but because it was cheaper than both other consoles. The competitive price point is what drove home the gimmick.
Just like how the PS3 could've never been successful with just the Playstation brand alone at $599 and they had to price drop constantly.
>>333036760
>73€ dans la poche du gouvernement
JUST
>>333037972
I know plenty of older people who didn't know google is any of these other things.
>>333038006
Older people don't know jack shit, young people know much more about technology in general having grown up with it and are the demographic the brand would matter to.
>>333026875
Invest in a thing that will grow in the future because they have the cash to burn.
>>333038124
But older people who have tried out vr loved it, if you would market it to them as easy and accessible it would be another source of profit. Would be stupid to ignore them from the pov of the people who are selling them. My gramps is old as fuck and has 2 or 3 desktop pc's by now, there is a market.
>>333038224
Doesn't change that brand alone isn't enough to create a success. There has to be a competitive price point.
If that were the case $599 US DOLLARS wouldn't have happened.
>>kickstarter
>It'll be $300 tops, but probably closer to $200
>Here's a $300 devkit, we hope it'll get cheaper per unit when it's time to move to mass production
>"If something’s even $600, it doesn’t matter how good it is, how great of an experience it is — if they just can’t afford it, then it really might as well not exist." - Palmer Luckey, June 6 2013
>>GDC next year
>it'll be in the ballpark of $350
>Here's a $350 devkit with more features to show we can meet that pricepoint
>>another year later
>It'll be somewhere in between the cost of a video game console and a smartphone
>>preorder comes around
>>it's $600
> “VR will become something everyone wants before it becomes something everyone can afford” - Palmer Luckey, December 24 2015
>>333037650
vive orders got canceled because of shitty debbit cards , given out by even shittier banks, triggering fraud alerts in their shitty automated credit card company fraud detection systems., not htc ´s fault, but digital river ireland´s
>>333033357
cute koishi dude
>>333038756
memehu
ITT:
>>333038901
>Reddit shirt
Needs a 4chan shirt desu
Reddit doesn't give a shit, only 4chan is freaking out about it.
>>333030695
found heaney with a folder full of palmer gifs
>>333025457
I disagree that VR is dead but holy fuck that picture is hilarious. I feel bad for all the uneducated who bought a Facebook Rift.
>>333030695
>shilling this hard
>>333028164
I think the next technological innovation will be multi-layered 180° 3D-TV's. Like the 3DS 3D effect (no glasses). It will be like having 10 TV's layered on top of each other with full transparency to create a strong 3D effect. Games will probably use all those layers to add extra immersion and effects.
>>333036760
cheap as fuck, mine was over 990e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYZfeY8Vg0EFull vr game when?
>>333041020
never
>>333041020
This has been my dream for VR.
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