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>the combat in Platinum Demo is bad!

When will this meme end?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN2R2nyBBOg
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Doesn't really look or play like a Final Fantasy any more.
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>>333010116

Surprise, turn based RPGs played similar to classic Final Fantasy are fucking dead. Thank shit like Elder Scrolls for that.
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I hope that video wasn't supposed to change my mind
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>>333010116
"final fantasy" has looked like this since Advent Children.
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>>333010116
That happens a lot.
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>>333009875
HOW IS THIS FINAL FANTASY?

It's just some game. they just make games and call them final fantasy now.
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>>333010252
They're "dead" because SE no longer wants to make big budget ones with turn-based. Thank god Horii is making sure DQ doesn't suffer the same fate as FR.
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His english voice doesn't fit his character at all.
What the fuck were SE thinking?
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>>333010450

Which is bullshit. I'm calling it right now that turn-based will make a comeback and indies will do it.

Mark my words. They will come back.
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That video was boring as shit.
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>>333009875
No amount of you showing off flashy moves will change the fact that this game has a really bad controls.

If you are going to make an action game you getting the controls right is the top priority.
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>>333010579
Indies don't have the time or manpower to develop a full-featured turn-based JRPG. There's a reason they all make platformers and gimmick games.
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>People still don't understand that Final Fantasy always tries to be the different RPG every game
Hell, some of the FF games weren't even Traditional Turn Base, but had this Real Time Menu Cooldown shit just to be different.
SE aren't even foreign to action games in their past either.
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>>333010116
Final Fantasy doesn't have a look or a continuously recurring playstyle.
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>>333009875
This guy fighting wouldn't have even lived the fight without the rapid heath regen the demo gives you.
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>>333009875
What's the point of doing all that of warping staggers him? Just warp to it until it dies. It's shit. You are just forcing yourself to make it interesting
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>>333010374
The world building, story, and other aspects make it final fantasy not the game play. And the gameplay looks like final fantasy too, fuck off with your YouTube comments faggot.
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>>333010252
Atlus has perfected and owns the turn based RPG market in the west. Square knows it would be better to focus on what they are known for, story telling and world building, than try to adhere to gameplay systems that they were never praised for (outside of rare innovations like the Materia system).
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>>333010758
Found the newfag
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Looks like shit

Dragon Quest 11 when?
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>>333010560
You don't even know what is character is
The game isn't out
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>>333010829
>You are just forcing yourself to make it interesting
That can be said of many fights in FF and in other games, but I'm mostly thinking about how you can cheese a Behemoth in FF13
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>>333010718
How to flip and stay in the air? Every time I try to fight in the air, I keep falling down like normal. Also, how to air dodge? I keep getting hit after doing a warp strike.
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>>333010670
git gud. You remind me of a Halo fanboy I know IRL who claims that Dark Souls has shit controls and "is rigged to make you lose, so its no fun and its a bad game."
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>UH UH UH EVERY FINAL FANTASY MUST HAVE TURN BASED OR IT DOESN'T COUNT

Get shot to death motherfucker
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>>333009875
>boss stands there and lets you shit on him

dark souls spoiled me
>I cant never go bad to baby shit
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>>333010934
Whatever you say m8.
I look forward to your explanation of how Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy II are similar. And then an explanation on how IV is like X. And then an explanation on how VIII is like XII. After that we can talk about how V and XIII are similar and how Lightning Returns is TOTALLY LIKE I.
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You can tell who's actually played the game by what they say about the game.

>Most of /v/ shits on the PS4 and XB1
>They make comments about this demo, despite most likely not owning it

The game isn't just a case of hold down the dodge or attack button, I fact that's highly ineffective.
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>>333010829
>Just warp to it until it dies

Good job running out of MP and becoming a sitting duck while in Stasis.
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>>333010829
This you could just as easily
>mash circle
>mash square when hes about to hit you
>continue mashing circle
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>>333010116
You say this but people will still be shitting on the game for being turn based
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We really don't need another thread about this.

All it does is attract shitposters.

Anyway, I wish they included a gun in the demo.
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>>333011047
No, he's right. The game controls like shit and it's very unresponsive.
While holding O, sometimes you will home and attack, sometimes you wont home and attack, sometimes you will home and dont attack.
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>>333009875

carb uncle is CUTE!
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>LOOK AT THIS VIDEO

Video proceeds to show slow dull fucking combat aside from a warp attack stun that allows character to just jump and attack constantly. Once that stun is over its back to shitty one hit dodge get hit anyway dodge again hit once.

SO BAD AND SO FUCKING DELAYED
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>>333010701
Lol, yes they do. Turn based RPGs are by far the easiest thing you could possibly make, they just aren't made because generally they tend to rely on elaborate setpieces that require tons of resources that indies don't have and that people smart enough to not make shit in RPG maker are usually intelligent enough to not care about turn based RPG gameplay in the first place.
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>>333011162
>Running out of MP
Shit regenerates while you are hitting him
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>>333011147
>>333011147
>The game isn't just a case of hold down the dodge or attack button, I fact that's highly ineffective.

Looks like the only that haven't played the demo is you.
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>>333010116
You don't understand Final Fantasy.
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It's literally just PCucks crying because they aren't able to play it.
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So is this actually part of the game or is it something separate? It looks like a childhood arc or something.
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>>333011509
BECAUSE IT IS A BABY MODE DEMO MADE FOR DSP-TIER RETARDS
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>>333011646
Separate. Beat it and Carbuncle will be yours in the main game and you get to name him
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>>333011147
You literally just described the fucking combat.
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>>333011503
Yes, exactly. They require a ton of resources that aren't coding. That's what indies don't have. It took a large team several years to make FF7, and that wasn't because of any complicated gameplay mechanics.
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>>333011639
But I'm a PC-fag and I think the combat in XV looks gr8. I think the whining about the combat is silly and I'm being reminded that /v/ hates video games.
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So... Let me make sure I got this...

You hold down one button to attack. When scurry monster looks like it's gonna attack you hold down another button to defend. Then switch back to first button to attack. So 2 buttons. And the d pad to switch to different styles?

So 2 buttons and the d pad? I can play this with the classic Nintendo B A controller?
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>>333011761
If it's separate I don't see what the big deal is.
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People who played the original demo.

Were the controls as delayed as they were in the new demo or was it better?

As it stands this game is fucking unplayable for me.
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>>333011639
Yup. Same happened with Bloodborne. The game is fine and most of the complaints have little merit to them.

>>333011646
It's a special demo, like the Omega Ruby and Alpha Saphire demo. By playing it, you get a special summon and it's not a part of the actual game.
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>hold O to attack

That option was put in the game for casual babies like you.

Sword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Stab
Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Circle + Left: Left spin strike
Circle + Right: Right spin strike
Air Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Air + Down: Downwards strike
Triangle: Warp strike

Greatsword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
: Charge up strike

Shuriken -
Circle: Combo (hold=fast combo, tap=slow combo)
Circle + Up: -
Circle + Down: Early combo finisher
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
Air + Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Traingle: Warp strike (multiple hits)

Shield -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Slow spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right -
Circle, pause, hold circle (Circle, back step, hold circle): Forward charge (works mid range)
Square (hold): Keep shield up, take less damage
Square (at impact of attack): stuns enemy shortly, prevents taking damage

The combat isn't as basic as I thought it was. If you fiddle around, you can pull off some pretty neat shit. Just don't go expecting something as deep as DMC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYvFS7w3KE&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiVWlRi9E
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>>333011809
Stop looking at videos and actually bother to play it. It's shit
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>>333011809
>looks gr8

But did you actually played it?
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The demo was awful, atleast 13 had a good combat system even if the rest was shit.
I really liked lightining returns combat system.

Final fantasy 15 needs to go die.
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Just go and make a Stylish Action RPG (see DMC) already. I'm tired of seeing RPGs with dull-ass combat that's comprised of mashing a single button and dodge-rolling indefinitely.
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>>333011630

this so much

FF is always evolving, and versus was supposed to go against the ff norm

>>333011879

looks fun as hell
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>>333011879
oh look it's this guy again
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>hold button to auto dodge

Just end it all, it's the bleeding hangnail.
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>>333011879
see
>>333010670
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>>333011873
Want a webm of me playing with the fucking controller in my hand to display the fucking delay to believe that maybe the controls in this game are garbage?
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>>333011894
>>333011907

there's a shitposting thread you can post in here >>332989439
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I liked it and it was fun. I also played a lot of other FF. I just can't understand the hate, why must you hate everything so much /v/?
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>>333011768
It's not how it works though. Using those methods aren't always sure proof and are ineffective.

>>333011809
You're not most PC gamers, anon. This always happens with high profile, console exclusives. When Bloodborne wasn't out yet, all /v/ would do was shitpost about how "sick dark" it was.
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>>333011879
Many games offer a more varied, intuitive, fun and responsive action combat with just 2 buttons.
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>>333011851
Because people are taking this demo to be the end all representation of what we'll see in the game. Lotta people claiming it's just "hold O for attack" when in reality stuff like this >>333011809 will most likely be done by mashing. It's just people that need to complain about something.
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>>333012000

The controls are perfectly fine. It's just the shitty performance that also affects the input lag.
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>>333010374
>>333010116
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>>333011809
Yea that's really all it has to it, it just looks great and flashy.
But all it boils down is holding circle or square to attack and defend, there is some minor input to slight change the variation of the attack but it's nothing huge.
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>>333011846
Nope. From the other thread:

>hold O to attack

That option was put in the game for casual babies like you.

Sword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Stab
Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Circle + Left: Left spin strike
Circle + Right: Right spin strike
Air Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Air + Down: Downwards strike
Triangle: Warp strike

Greatsword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
: Charge up strike

Shuriken -
Circle: Combo (hold=fast combo, tap=slow combo)
Circle + Up: -
Circle + Down: Early combo finisher
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
Air + Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Traingle: Warp strike (multiple hits)

Shield -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Slow spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right -
Circle, pause, hold circle (Circle, back step, hold circle): Forward charge (works mid range)
Square (hold): Keep shield up, take less damage
Square (at impact of attack): stuns enemy shortly, prevents taking damage

The combat isn't as basic as I thought it was. If you fiddle around, you can pull off some pretty neat shit. Just don't go expecting something as deep as DMC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYvFS7w3KE&feature=youtu.be [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0 [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiVWlRi9E [Open]

The game just doesn't explain it that well. It's like Kingdom Hearts in a way. You can play it mindlessly, but you're missing out if you do.
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>>333011870
the controls aren't delayed, you just need to git gud.

Jesus Christ, its like Neo /v/ has never played Monster Hunter or anything. Fucking casuals.
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>>333011921
>13 had a good combat system
HAH!
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>devs directly respond to criticism about FF13 being a hallway simulator with shit gameplay
>people call FFXV a big empty open world that no one wants and call the more action oriented gameplay shit
Fuck gamers, seriously, even if the game turned out shit, it doesn't matter, you literally can't be pleased

Enjoy FFXVI being a hallway simulator again because you all bitched about the open world, just like what happened when people complained FFXII was too open and then we got XIII
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>>333012116
People dont buy ff for arpg combat they buy it for turn based combat.
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i will now assault your mind with sexual suggestions /v/

you want to fuck that carbuncle
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>>333012045
So you didn't play it then?

What are you doing here then nigger?
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>>333012208

was already posted

>>333011879
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this was literally the most boring triple a game i have played in years.

walking along collecting glowing golden shards.

walking over buttons for stupid fucking 'effects' to happen

that shitty movement

that insulting combat

and that fucking terrible dialogue

why do consolecucks have such low standards. where's the fun?
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>hold O to attack

That option was put in the game for casual babies like you.

Sword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Stab
Circle + Down: Backflip strike
Circle + Left: Left spin strike
Circle + Right: Right spin strike
Air Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Air + Down: Downwards strike
Triangle: Warp strike

Greatsword -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
: Charge up strike

Shuriken -
Circle: Combo (hold=fast combo, tap=slow combo)
Circle + Up: -
Circle + Down: Early combo finisher
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right: -
Air + Circle: Combo
Air Combo + Directionals: Dodge (resets combo)
Traingle: Warp strike (multiple hits)

Shield -
Circle: Combo
Circle + Up: Forward charge
Circle + Down: Slow spin strike
Circle + Left: -
Circle + Right -
Circle, pause, hold circle (Circle, back step, hold circle): Forward charge (works mid range)
Square (hold): Keep shield up, take less damage
Square (at impact of attack): stuns enemy shortly, prevents taking damage

The combat isn't as basic as I thought it was. If you fiddle around, you can pull off some pretty neat shit. Just don't go expecting something as deep as DMC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYvFS7w3KE&feature=youtu.be [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0 [Open] [Open]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiVWlRi9E [Open] [Open]

The game just doesn't explain it that well. It's like Kingdom Hearts in a way. You can play it mindlessly, but you're missing out if you do.

Preodered 10 times
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>>333009875
is this supposed to prove otherwise?
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>>333012286
>game
*demo
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>>333010116
>"what exclusively made the Final Fantasy series was the turn based combat
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>>333012227
Monster Hunter has good controls and the framerate doesn't shit the bed like this game.
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>>333012325
Is this the new meme?
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>>333012113


It's Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy has always been casual.

>>333012286
>this was literally the most boring triple a game i have played in years.

Wait how did I play the game? Are you a time traveler?
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>>333009875
>Enemy doesn't fight back

Well the combat certainly doesn't look good.
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>>333012239
Ignore /v/, most don't even own a PS4/XB1 which doesn't make them even relevant to the developers. The game plays fine.
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>>333012286
It's a tech demo, you braindead piece of shit
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>>333012158
truth, it's either shitposting or just kids postings.
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>>333012239
>People complain about empty hallways
>They give them empty open places
>Huurr why r ppl mad. Entitled gamurs
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>>333011879
>>333012208
>>333012325

You FFaggots are gonna have a mental breakdown when this game ends up being shit aren't you?
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>>333012262
I don't think that is the sole reason people buy FF games.
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>>333012208
What was the way in Duscae? It seemed way more interesting
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>>333012373

just a shitposter with nothing else to resort to
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game is literally just a more sluggish Ys.

don't see what there is to be excited about.
but then no one really plays FF for the combat.
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>>333012191
I've been told you don't have to hold down buttons and can actually press buttons to attack ala Kingdom Hearts instead, and that holding down to attack is just optional.
>>333012262
I buy FF for good high quality games and have never been disappointed except for Type 0, which truly is awful
. ARPG or not it doesn't matter, just if its good.
>>333011907
Admittedly no, I don't own a PS4. Still holding out on a possible PC release. I guess reading about it and watching it isn't the same as playing it, but I still feel as if people are making a big deal out of nothing. So you can hold down a button to attack. Its not as if you have to do it that way. Its optional.
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>>333012262
Wrong. The reason I've been looking forward to this for so many years is that if dumped turn based combat. It's finally evolving and more interesting to play. Turn based combat makes combat feels monotonous.
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>>333011967
you got anything to argue against him? or will you say the same shit while posting reaction images from your meme folder?
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>>333012480

I already know if won't be amazing combat, but it's still enjoyable for an FF game, which are usually casual.

You faggots are gonna be salty when it comes out and we're enjoying it right?
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The sluggish animations and general responsiveness remind me of Devil May Cry 2
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>>333012524
>Holding is optional
Pressing A a lot during pokemon attacks is also optional
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>>333012459
>make a tech demo
>it has one of the worst framerates of an exclusive in recent years

bravo square enix
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>>333012524
>Admittedly no, I don't own a PS4.

Then stop shitposting.
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If I like Tales of games' combat will I like this game's combat?
I mean, Tales combat isn't all that complicated on the base level, but it gets more fun as you get more skills and cancels and shit, and the boss battles can get pretty hectic sometimes.
I realize this is just a demo now, but I've never played a Square ARPG and want to get a comparison.
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>another FF shitposting thread


fucking weekend /v/
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>>333012325
even if it's not on par with something like bayonetta (not sure why you'd even expect this) it's still a step up from ATB. honestly what XII could've been ages ago.
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>>333012471
we don't even know if its empty or not, people are just asspulling shit based on some demos with minimal content

If it turns out to be empty, shitpost then. Everyone is so fucking jaded about everything now
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>>333012286
why does master race always beg for the console cucks games if they are so shit?
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>>333012498
Duscae had more weapons. PD only has a smaller sword and a great sword. Was had a spear, a regular sword, a sword that absorbs health and a great sword, along with commands (Dragoon Leap, etc). PD isn't an accurate depiction of the wider combat. Also, ED has actually difficulty while PD doesn't. People that are whining about this demo would most likely have a tough time tackling he gave mobs for example.
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>>333010758
I through X-2, and back with XIII had turn-based-esque gameplay. Sure they all had tweaks, but don't even try to pretend they were not similar. XV is the final fucking nail in this series. Old fans are now just relegated to scraps of ports on PC and spin off games. Fuck Square Enix.
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>>333012691
>another thread with fanboys salty that people are pointing out the flaws

wew lad
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>>333009875
FINAL FANTASY XV KUN
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>>333012757
I have both. I'd prefer it on PC.
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>>333012480
not as big as the mental breakdown as the "NOT MUH FF" crowd. & you're incredibly retarded if you think they're going to waste 10 years of development just for everything to be undermine everything they worked on by holding down some invincibility button.
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>>333012780
you were proven wrong about the combat now you're just green texting everyone to death
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>>333012593
they won't be in these threads, because they never cared to begin with.

that's how it always goes. bunch of bored anons with absolutely nothing better to do. then they suddenly vanish when it comes out.
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>>333012729
Duscae was pretty empty.

And besides, the areas have to be empty, or else you will be playing a slideshow.
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>>333012764
PD actually had the shortsword, broadsword, shuriken, and short sword and shield set. But I agree with you
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>>333012764
*the cave mobs
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>>333012524
It's not even just the combat, the preformence overall was just bad.
I don't know if it's just the tech demo but the framerate was really bad during combat and when you used spells.

Also holy shit man game really needs some AA.
I'm looking forward to it, but that tech demo or whatever the fuck you wanna call it is not a good seller, they should've just given everyone a new version of the duscae demo.
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>>333012764

PD also has a shield and shuriken along with fire.
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>>333012671
Where did I shitpost? I'm just discussing video games based on the knowledge given to me about the game from footage and things I've read about it and every piece of news I hear about it.

Final Fantasy XV appears to be somewhere between Kingdom Hearts and Metal Gear Rising in terms of combat, with a requirement to dodge attacks and also parrying mechanics put in to attack when the enemy attacks. You can hold a button to attack, or you can mash buttons to attack. Where did I shitpost?
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>>333012851
Your pasta didn't prove anyone wrong nigger.
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>>333012876
Sorry, I haven't played it in a while. I need to re-download it.

Also, it's worth noting the ED boss is a lot harder than the Iron Giant from PD.
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>>333012936
WHERE DID I SHITPOST?
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>>333011430

He sure is, the lil fella. You should google image search him for more cutey patootey pics.
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>>333012780

Where are these posts about flaws?

I see people saying they enjoy the demo despite the flaws, then greentexting retards like you trying to bait.
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>>333012936
I'd say it's a slower more, more "realistic" version of KH combat. Sure, Noct can summon a bevy of swords, but he swings them in a way that looks as if they have weight to them. Sora's just flinging that Keyblade like it weighs nothing.

>>333012979
Yeah Behemoth was no joke. And you also had those long necked guys too
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>>333012775
Different variances of turn-based gameplay though. The ATB guage was a thing after a while and some of the games introduced a job system while others had classes and leveling worked in an odd way in II and so on. And disregarding gameplay, aesthetically and thematically and setting wise the games were really different. And don't forget that XII came out 10 years ago at this point. So its not as if shifts from turn based combat is a new thing in Final Fantasy. You mentioned XIII but it changed things to only use one party member for control and otherwise just give orders to other party members via paradigms. Then Lightning Returns, the finale of the XIII series, was an action RPG. And then there are the FF MMOs....
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>>333012780

>another thread with people salty that others enjoyed the demo
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>>333013191
The cave goblins were no easy task either. That was one of the most intense parts of the game.
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>>333009875
the game does look like shit
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>>333013323

yeah I can't wait for the full combat demo later in the year

this demo's main focus was graphical along with giving people a teaser taste of where the barebones combat is
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this game looks amazing. the way this combat is reminds me of the earlier combat of ff versus.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2Z7ZZUyMY
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>>333013464
Is Episode Duscae getting a final update?

Yeah, they even said it themselves that this demo was basically just a tech demo. It's not a proper demo like ED.
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>>333009875
>instant stun opener
>wail on target dummy depleting 1/3 of its health
>it FINALLY stands up
>attacks like once every ten seconds with big ass slow attacks with long telegraph animations
>moron playing STILL GETS HIT
>stuns it again
>proceeds to wail on target dummy again
>close video

yeah, great combat faggot.
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>>333013464
Wait, we're getting another one? I thought PD was the last playable thing.
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>>333009875
thats a cute special doggo
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FF is truly dead.

This is the final nail in the coffin.
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>>333013549

music is so fucking on point
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>>333013672
The series has been dead for 15 years. That's 3/4 of your life kid.
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>>333013592
yeah we need witcher 3 combat, truly the PC master race could fix its combat with spinny shit with hilariously bad animations
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>>333013627

no tabata said multiple times that he want a full combat demo with all the guys
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>God of War series
>Mash Square to Win
>/v/:LEL SHIT SERIES, MEGA EASY,STUPID WESTERN DEVS CANT DEVELOP FOR SHIT!!!!!!


>This game
>Hold Oh to Win
>/v/:NO, U JUST CANT PLAY THE GAME RIGHT, YOU CAN DO ALL THESE CRAZY MEGA HYPE THINGS, YOU JUST HATE VIDEO GAMES PLEB

So, how come it's okay when Japan does it?
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>>333013549
>Find the cave where you get a summon in Episode Duscae
>Turns out there are a lot of goblins in there
>Fighting off a whole horse of goblins with your bros while the night battle theme plays in the cave

That was one of the best ED moments for me.
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>>333012373

No, The denial and shilling is just so bad they actually have canned copy/pasta (multiple flavors too!) defending the shit game.

All the FF shills go from FF thread to FF thread posting the same excuses and the "muh hidden mechanics" while the thing stutters along at 15fps.
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>>333013793
>this booty blistered shitposter thinks bringing up another game with shit combat is a rebuttal
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>>333013887
>FF
>needing shilling

kek
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>>333013837
Awesome.
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>>333013672
agreed, what a fucking shitpile
it's going to be worse than 13.. and that's amazing, how can something be so shitty like holy fuck
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>>333013872
You forget FF15 fans weren't around when God of War 1 and 2 came out. They didn't start playing games till PS3. They are underage.
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>>333014028

Whether he delivers is another story.

But I don't see why not in the span of 5 months.
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>POLL TIME

Answer honestly, even you fucking obvious shills

strawpoll.me/7265194

strawpoll.me/7265753
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>>333014017

It's pretty obvious there are paid shills even in this thread. Some posts are just too weird and out of place like >>333013728
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>shitposters patting each other on the back while we enjoy the demo


i have no face for this
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>>333014256
>someone likes the music
>SHILL
It was probably the best part of the demo, retard.
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>>333014256
Can't you just do everybody on the planet a favor, and kill yourself already? Please?
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>>333014256

>someone saying they enjoyed the music is weird and out of place

You are literally retarded. People like you ruined this board.
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>>333010252
Excuse me anon.
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>>333014372
I've played the demo, honestly what is there to even enjoy
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>>333009875
it will end when the combat stops sucking donkey dick.

The gameplay overall is just subpar desu.
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>>333014385
>>333014409
>>333014465
>implying anyone would describe a piece they liked as "spot on"

3 paid shills in this thread.
I assumed there were only 2. Wew.
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>>333014372
That bit about fans being underage is kinda funny. Remember when this shit was Fabula Nova Crystallis, and XIII, this game, and Agito were all connected? There was this cool pic of Lightning and Noct sitting on thrones. Pretty neat visual
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>>333014475
>call all fire/ice/whatever
>all out attack
>fight over
AMAZING STRATEGIC TURNBASED COMBAT

FF15 sucks, but that doesn't make shit like Persona good.
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>>333010252
yeah, thats why bravely default, second, and all persona games, along with a shit ton of turnbased rpgs recently are selling well.

Retard
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>>333014256

You can't be this desperate.
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>>333014507
If you really have, it's basically a tech demo. If you ever get to play Episode Duscae, that's more representative of the game.
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>>333014660
Only the newfriend underage FF faggots even care about the things you just said though.
So yeah the current fanabase of shit eating retards is definitely underage.
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>>333014684
Most turned-based combat rpgs are easy.
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>>333014639

He said it was on point you fucking imbecile.
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>>333014850
So is this piece of shit. FFXV looks and plays like dog shit.
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>>333009875
>meme

Bruh, did you play it for yourself?

Hold down the Circle button to auto-attack, cycles through the exact same 4 or 5 animations in the exact same sequence. They could've made some cool chaining combos if you switched weapons mid-attack but naw, it just starts a new animation. Also the hammer weapon has literally one animation.

Dodge is broken. No matter how often I tried I could not figure out the I frames. I tried dodging so enemy attacks would connect when I was flashing blue but I still took damage.

And some attacks can't be dodged at all, but the only way to tell what can and can't be dodged is through trial and error, and thanks to the dodgy fucking Iframes you never know if the attack is undodgeable or if the dodge animations are just fucking you up.

It was garbage. Kingdom hearts has better combat than this.
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>>333009875
>scan fennec
>put realistic cat dong on head
>call it a mythical creature

JUST
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>>333014968
>>333011879
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>>333014942
same diff, autist mad kid :^)
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>>333014803
How so? Why would only new FF fans care about the history of this game's development? Or are you so backed into a corner that you can't reply with a decent retort?
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>>333010579
Didnt bravely default bring it back? I could have sworn that was the consensus
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>>333014372

It's pretty hilarious actually. Especially how desperste they are.
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>>333014958
OK. The person you replied to posted a picture of a highly anticipated turn-based rpg to show that they are still around.

How good FFXV will or will not be had nothing to do with it.
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>>333015009
>realistic cat dong on head
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>>333011879
NOW YOU'RE REALLY CROSSED THE LINE
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ED was alright, took some getting used to, this demo was fucking awful and I pray this garbage isn't in the actual game.
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>>333015082
Backed into a corner because I made one single reply to you pointing out how underage the fans truly are because non-underage fans don't even care about the current games?

lol ok, sad little internet debate masturbator xD
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>>333012208
it's just animation change though.
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>>333011956
Evolving doesn't necessarily mean improving, you know?

There are an incalculable number of evolutionary dead ends.
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>>333014956
Thank casuals
>>333014958
>going outside of the area you're supposed to be in
>surprised it looks bad because they didn't want to have a 50 GB 20 minute demo
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>>333015248
YOUR HATE FOR ME IS DIVINE
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The demo was great. I really enjoyed it.

I hope this doesn't trigger anyone..
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>>333015361
MY LOVE YEARNS YOUR SUFFER
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Who the fuck are these faggot apologists?

Is this what the Kingdom Hearts fanbase is up to now? Y'all migrated to the FFXV marketing team now?
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the worst thing about the FFXV combat is that it feels like half measure

why didn't they just go full action rpg and allow me to have DMC-like combat with cancels, dodging, etc on the fly

noctis controls like a fucking tank with 50ms delay, not a teleporting swordmaster
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>>333014958
whoah... so this....... is.. the power.... of console gaming..... that looks.... AMAZING... totally on point!
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>>333012480
No, long time fan here with low expectations, I've been playing other JRPGs I missed out on but nothing seems to full the void so while I do enjoy the hype I expect it won't be the perfect FF game I've been waiting for years to play.
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>>333015294
>xD
>"b.b.but YOU are underage I win!"
FF is so fucking cancerous
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>>333015316

Yeah, and you're one of them.
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>>333015294
Well, yeah dude, you're not saying anything substantial and not backing up your point or proving your point, so yeah. Backed into a corner.
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>>333015464
UPON YOUR GRAVE LURKS MY PROSPER
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>>333015529
Post more drivel please.
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>Hold trangle to warp
>do it

Either doesn't work or he warps in some useless place. They should have explained it again before the fight.
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>>333015515
I guess I walked right into that one.
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>>333015584
After you.
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He is still holding circle.
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>>333015515

S A V A G E
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>>333015595
Fucking hold triangle and you will warp to the blue emblem
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>>333015595
You need magic to warp, you probably used it up.
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You have to be a

1. underage
2. a shill

to post anything even remotely positive about this pile of shit """Final Fantasy""" game with sloppy hack and slash mechanics. After all this time THIS is all they came up with? Jesus Christ what a sad joke.
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>>333015415


FUCKING FAGGGOT ITS TERRIBLE AND YOU SHOULD HATE IT LIKE ME
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>>333013837
Isn't that what Episode Duscae was?
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>>333015681
Yeah you just did post more drivel. Thanks. Keep it up, champ. You are a real winner at life.
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>>333009875
It may be not bad, but it's underwhelming.
Even if you do cool stuff it kinda doesn't feel good.
Honestly, if game won't have good character progression, equipment, loot, etc. I may wait till heavy price drop.
Cause buying game just for pretty locations is not something I want to pay 60$ for.
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>>333015787

You're really bored aren't you?
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Unrelated to XV, but I am about to start VII for the first time ever later today, anything I should know, or expect?
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>>333013872
There is nothing wrong with GoWs combat. It's not deep but it's satisfying.
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>>333015515
Oh snap
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Who else wishes Square would just go bankrupt and disappear into the shithole it belongs in?
This shitty game might actually finally do it. Dog bless.
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>>333015843

no ed's combat has been scrapped>>333015926

Aeris dies amd Sephiroth is the final boss.
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>>333015787
Word.
I can't believe people fell for the PS4 meme
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>>333015954
>There is nothing wrong with GoWs combat.

Besides it being fucking boring, like FFXV's.
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>>333016003

me
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>>333015926
Aerith dies and Sephiroth is the final boss
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>>333015874
How are two words drivel?
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>>333016019
its not even a ps4 exclusive

xv shitposters are so stupid
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>>333009875
Good im glad you think its shit. Its fucking amazing, thank god its not boring turned based combat
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>>333016095
>Aerith

Triggered
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>>333016003
>16:07:02

>>333016091
>16:08:03


come on man
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>>333016003
I will never forgive them for what they did to Musashi.
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>>333015248
>>333015361
>>333015464
>>333015573
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K26mi_cSAkA
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>>333016283
>he thinks comparing post times is somehow a valid thing as if there's only 2 people posting in this thread

now this reeks of desperation
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>>333016003
I
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>>333016469

nice try
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Who else /boycotting Final Fantasy XV until we get a PC or NX release/ here?
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>>333016564
>get called out
>n-n-n-n-nice try

lol wtf
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>>333009875
That just looked like a more boring version of Kingdom Hearts, if I wanted to play that I'd just wait until KH3 comes out. I don't know why SE is allergic to turn based combat now, at least I still have Atlus games I guess.
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>>333010450
Turn based will never be accepted outside of Japan.

>>333010579
It'll "come back" in an extremely minor way, indie RPGs aren't exactly gonna be doing gangbusters.

Mongoloids will never accept turn-based design for RPGs, even mobile games are moving away from it.
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>>333016609
Shitty falseflag post.
Nobody even wants this turd of a game, you fucking retard shill.
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>>333016609
>giving a shit about Square or FFXV at all

Dumbass
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>>333016609
>A boycott of a product not being sold to you
Unless you can convince all the Sonyfags to boycott on behalf of the PCfags that doesnt mean much.
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>>333010116
>Franchises aren't allowed to experiment

oi vey
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>>333016673

Called out for what? Calling out your blatant auto-samefaggotry?
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>>333009875
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>>333016609
>Being this autistic in a thread packed to bursting with autism.
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>>333016820
D E S P E R A T I O N
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>>333010116
all it takes to be a Final Fantasy game is crystals and chocobos
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>>333016609
>Who else /boycotting Final Fantasy XV until we get a PC or NX release/ here?
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>>333009875
That rabbit dog is so cute.

This game honestly doesn't need a great combat system. As long as it is good enough that's all it needs. Most people will play this for the world exploration and story.
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>>333016003
they'll never make another good FF game so they might as well die
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>>333009875
is that thing suppose to be the moogle of the game?
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Looks like a slower and clunkier kingdom hearts, i mean after 10 yrs i should expect something better
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>>333016003
why you mad thou
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>>333011879
>muh special moves
>muh air combos

You know what else has that shit? Ninja Theories DmC and that at least runs at a stable framerate and doesn't have horrendous input lag.
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>>333017014
>Most people will play this for the world exploration and story.

Cool,can't wait to check it out on YouTube.
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>>333017116
>they'll never make another good FF game

It happened two and a half years ago. And under the worst circumstances.
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