>"When asked about a potential Xbox 1.5 update, Spencer answered, "I'm not a big fan of Xbox One and a half. If we're going to move forward, I want to move forward in big numbers," Spencer clarified that he doesn't have any inside knowledge about PlayStation's plans or the rumors currently circulating, but he added, "For us, our box is doing well. It performs, it's reliable, the servers are doing well. If we’re going to go forward with anything, like I said, I want it to be a really substantial change for people--an upgrade."
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dont-expect-xbox-one-and-a-half-xbox-head-says/1100-6436510/
Based Spencer.
What's based about this?
He just doesn't want to invest most money into something that's not doing well.
They only think about money. They don't give a shit about what's best for the consumer.
>>333007391
So it's somehow OK for a company to release a 1.5 system 4 years into the current gen with better specs? Because I gotta tell you, that sounds like a big fuck you tp anybody who bought the regular system.
>Sony is literally trying to usher in an age of two consoles per gen
>Nobody gives a fuck
>>333007174
>we're fine with 900p and 30fps with drops
Fuck yeah man! so based.
>>333007704
Nintendo is doing the same with the NX, so what?
The UI is still horseshit.
>>333007704
"generations" have become arbitrary after everything on console was just gimped PC games. Having console generations span 8+ years is retarded. The industry is better off when the hardware is updated more frequently, one of the biggest problems with videogames is consoles falling so far behind the curve that it drags games down with it.
>>333007174
>I want to move forward in big numbers
>goes from 360 to 1
>>333007391
>What's based about this?
He is not giving the middle finger to all the people who bought the vanilla Xboxone.
I mean even for them what Sony did is way too jewish.
>>333007174
If it's doing so well why is it only selling like 30 consoles a week in Japan?
I get it they don't want to sound lame but come on...
>>333008095
> Xbox 900
> Endorsed by Tony Hawk
> Proper Tony Hawk 4 HD remake (not the shit made by robomodo)
They fucking blew the perfect PR campaign
>>333007704
>So it's somehow OK for a company to release a 1.5 system 4 years into the current gen with better specs?
You mean like the OG Xbox (2001) and the 360 (2005)?
>>333008000
sure, if they release them for half the price
I have 3 PS4 games right now and I better have at least 10 by the time a new console comes out
>>333008103
Because they already did to the consumers that bought mandatory kinect.
Remember when they said the xbox one was not functional without a kinect? Bunch of cunts.
>>333008000
What they need to do is stop cutting corners when they develop their new consoles. The 360 and PS3, for instance, were both powerful little machines when they came out, especially the 360, and it was only after a few years they started to fall behind high end PC hardware.
>>333007704
>So it's somehow OK for a company to release a 1.5 system 4 years into the current gen with better specs?
>what is PS2 slim
>what is PS3 slim
>what is XBOX360 60GB
>what is XBOX360 Elite/Super Elite
>what is XOBX360 S 320/500GB
>>333007704
>its OK for a company to make something that's better than their previous product
Uh, yeah? Would you prefer it if we all still had Atari 2600's?
>>333007174
>"For us, our box is doing well"
Yea huge gap in sales, initially costed more while being far less powerful then PS4.
Truly doing well dicking their customers if thats what they mean.
>>333007174
i don't get why you just don't let people trade their old system to you and give them like a discount, a hefty one and then you can resell the older systems used, but cheaper to complete idiots looking for a cheap system.
it used to be, like with PS1, PS2 and PS3, as well as Gameboy and 360 that it was a smaller form factor and in the PS1 case, had a kickass screen to make it a good on the go system with a car adapter.
now you are buying a straight upgrade like the new 3ds xl. there is ZERO point in not having a new 3ds xl, for you not to have one if you can get it means your being a complete idiot. its better in all aspects over the OG 3ds and xl models.
>>333008208
The OG Xbox came late into the 6th gen, and it was their first venture into the console market. They were testing the water and seeing if they had a place somewhere.
>>333007174
>>333007704
>>333008208
I love how console gamers biggest excuse for not going pc is because they don't have to upgrade their system all the time to use it.
I guess this won't be true soon? It's not like they don't have to update their systems software-wise, but now they will have to hardware-wise?
Console gaming is dying.
>>333008258
and bunch of gimmick like 3ds,xl,lite,i, bla bla bla
but of course nintendu dindu nuting wong
>>333008208
what?
but those are different SYSTEMS, you fucking retard!
oh wait, you were trying to make a joke? go back to cleaning your spittle off the floor you fucking caveman!
>based Spencer
Fucking console cucks I swear to god..
>>333008339
>i don't get why you just don't let people trade their old system to you and give them like a discount
because that would cost them money
>you can resell the older systems used, but cheaper to complete idiots looking for a cheap system.
yeah they're not in the business of selling used hardware, hell they tried to kill off used games
Really fucking dumb.
The 4.5 is going to murder the competition. It's going to be equally priced and the games are just going to run shit loads better, and give people a chance to use their shitty 4K TVs. He is delusional as fuck.
When consoles have lives of 10+ years, side-grades make more sense than simply releasing new hardware after their shelf life is up.
>>333007174
He said he doesn't like the name because it sounds weak
1.5? Sounds shitty
He said if they go forward its gonna be a big upgrade
Where did he say no iteration coming soon?
>>333007174
yea, because no one would buy that, the ps4k will sold out the moment is out
>>333008258
holy shit
you guys are just fucking dumbasses tonight
ALL THOSE SYSTEMS DIDN'T HAVE FUCKING STRAIGHT UP CHANGES IN THE FUCKING HARDWARE TO MAKE THEM BETTER THAN THE OLDER ONES!
THEY ALL DID THE SAME SHIT!
>>333008462
2be fair, 3ds was its own gen, and the xl wasn't an upgrade
>>333008258
Was there a difference in performance for the slim versions? I thought all they did was remove functions, make it smaller and generally worse?
>>333007174
Its a good move for them. It would be a complete loss
>>333008579
If it was stronger and same price or cheaper they would
Ps4 got ahead cause itwas 100 cheaper and a tiny bit stronger
>>333008103
What do you expect Sony to do? Stop all PS4 shipments and halt their consoles sales, recall everything and replace it with a new console? It's not their fault people are buying PS4 too fast to keep up with. They probably planned a PS4.5 while making the PS4.
>>333008254
That's not feasible anymore. PC is going from 1080 to 4k 60fps and consoles can hardly handle 1080p 60fps without severely diminishing graphics. Even if they released essentially a powerful PC at the time of the PS4 release (Which would only be feasible if cost an outrageous amount of money) it would already feel the strain trying to run newer games with tanking graphics or framerate or resolution.
>>333008315
>far less powerful than the PS4
Anon, don't. The Xbone has a slightly worse GPU, but the difference is marginal. It mostly comes down to 1080p vs 900p. The PS4 is still a piss poor machine hardware wise.
Do normies even know about these rumors? I'd imagine it can't be good for sales of PS4's and Xbone's.
>>333007704
microsoft isn't making their console vr compatible.
>>333008602
isn't that a bad thing, then? that they did the same thing? Wouldn't you rather have something that performs better for an equal or slightly higher price? I see your point, but it isn't a good one.
>"For us, our box is doing well.."
>>333008602
>ALL THOSE SYSTEMS DIDN'T HAVE FUCKING STRAIGHT UP CHANGES IN THE FUCKING HARDWARE
yes they did - literally different and better hardware
stfu retard
So is the new PS4 model basically confirmed at this point?
I was going to go out and buy a PS4 over the weekend but I'd feel like a retard if they are just gonna release a better one in a few months
>>333007391
>that's not doing well.
but is not doing bad either
>>333008649
PS2 slim ran cooler than the fat because no internal power supply
PS3 slim removed BC but had fewer failures because of hardware revisions in the CPU and better hard drives.
>>333007997
Nintendo is making an 8th gen console though, Sony is the one trying to go for 8.5
>>333008797
the hardware didn't change the console's performance like the ps4.5 is rumored to do so you're a fucking retard grasping for an argument
they didn't mean you should buy the new version, at most you should buy a new HD
>>333008738
>Forgetting the $100 difference
That was the real kicker they knew it was shitty hardware and they were trying to fly under the radar with it.
900 fucking p in 2013.
>>333007840
The PS4 doesn't run anything well either
>>333008520
I really doubt we'll see a repeat of the 7th gen where it lasted so fucking long. MS will probably get a new Xbox out long before Sony does, which makes the PS4.5 looks like a piece of shit in comparison.
While I like the idea of more frequently changing hardware, having a hardware upgrade in the middle of a gen is a retarded idea. Consoles aren't PCs and the more they try to make them like PC the worse they're going to get. And Microsoft trying to combine the Xbox brand with PC is going to end up being bad for both of them. In fact I expect more of this "hey PC exists too we should try and capitalize on that too" bullshit and it's going to be bad for the entire industry.
>>333008000
>"generations" have become arbitrary after everything on console was just gimped PC games
It's the opposite. Most games are designed around consoles with minor upgrades on PC. Though consoles are still shit and this development method just makes sure both versions are shit rather than making one good version and scaling it down for the other platforms.
>>333008969
>>Forgetting the $100 difference
>Forgetting the Kinect MS was trying to push
>>333008957
>the hardware didn't change the console's performance like the ps4.5 is rumored to do
moving the goalposts
revisions are made every gen
PS3 had like 5 not even including slim models
Why does /v/ hate the PS4 so much?
>>333008969
There are games which run at a full native 1080p on the Xbone. Go Google a list. Also there's games on the PS4 which run at 900p. The PS4 does have better hardware, but you can cherry pick examples on both systems of good and bad performance.
>>333009214
/v/ hates winners
This is going to be the Sega Genesis 32X all over again. People don't like upgrading consoles like PCs, otherwise they would get a fucking PC. Adding specs to console games takes away the plug n play aspect.
>>333009214
Why do you think the ps4 should be exempt from Critisism
>>333009214
The tallest branches catch the most wind.
>>333008649
Typically, slim and non-launch models were just less error prone, or didnt run as hot. The only time i can recall that features were removed was the ps3 slim, which they took out sd card, memory stick and 2 usb ports.
Is this all because of the NX?
Sony doesn't want to be left behind, and so everyone assumes neither does Microsoft.
I don't think the NX is going to be a giant leap beyond either of those, so I don't know what they are worrying about?
Wow you faggots are arguing about shitty consoles on a Saturday night.
>>333009432
>I don't know what they are worrying about?
the VR hype train
>>333009214
Mainly because of posts like >>333009319
Ps4 owners seem to think that more sales = better consoles.
>>333009070
Sony will just release the PS4.75 if that happens.
>>333007174
They are just offerimg another option for people who want a more powerful version. Thats a good thing, i dont know how you people think this is bad for the customer?
>>333009382
I don't, but /v/ is getting way too asshurt over the 4.5k.
There's nothing to support that it is going to exist and if it does, isn't that good? Won't people want to get it? Old OS4 owners won't supposedly be affected, I can't see why it's bad.
>>333009507
>>333007704
BOO HOO
Fucking loserville up in here. Guess what? No one cares. All titles will work between PS4 and PS4K. It's just a minor uprez for fags with 4K TV. At most, you might get a few frames more too in games, so for us early adopters it don't mean SHIT.
PS4 is so far ahead it can afford this move, cry more you faggy Xkucks
>>333009592
You forgot the red marks around his eyes
>>333009507
>Buying into VR this early
>>333009507
This is just another example of consoles trying to implement shit from PC and losing more and more of their benefits. I agree with someone else that said Sony is going to kill vr with their shitty implementation. Not that I care as I don't give a shit about vr but consoles wanting to be PCs is a very bad thing for everyone.
>>333007174
Hey Phil, I'll buy your system when it comes down in price and size. I'm not paying $300 for a VCR.
>>333009426
Don't forget PS2 slim removed the extension port so no HDD. It integrated the network port though so you dont need an adapter for it. Gain some, lose some.
>>333009554
I think it basically does exist at this point. Too many rumors about roughly the same thing.
The more console try to be PCs the less reasons there are to buy consoles.
>>333009718
Still, why would it be bad? It's an optional upgrade.
>>333009554
>Old PS4 owners won't be affected
Just wait for the inevitable "Only on PS4k" announcements. Sony is gonna cuck you fags HARD.
>>333007174
They cant release a console with considerably improved performance when the current xbox already struggles to run current gen games.
It would split their player base into new and old. Its gonna have to be quality of life shit like faster loading times and frame rates and nothing else.
Does anybody remember the rumors about Xbox one having a projector so that you had a larger fov?
>>333009819
>It's an optional upgrade when Sony does it!
>>333009598
>All titles will work between Ps4 and Ps4k
Ps4k Exclusive
>>333009893
You mean like some shitty VR game?
>>333007174
I'm glad, I already own both the PS4 and Xbox One and I'm not looking to replace them both with .5 upgrades.
>>333009598
No manufacturer of specialized hardware can afford a fractured market, or even the perception of one. Remember the naming debacle of the wii u that continues to haunt it to this day?
>>333009783
>The more PCs try to be consoles the less reasons there are to buy consoles.
like poetry
>>333009706
in fairness, no one fucking used the HDD port in PS2 Phat at the time anyway
>>333010132
But we use it now for homebrew.
>>333010073
Microsoft is retarded and thinks PC users will buy into the whole platform meme that Applefags fell for. I have no idea why they think turning Windows into OSX/iOS will make people happy.
>>333010038
>it's only a shitty vr game I didn't want it anyways
yeah fuck off
until AMD and Nvidia start using HBM2, old GDDR5 and GDDR5X hardware prices won't drop. I guaranteed this is when Sony and Microsoft will start developing new consoles because old shit hardware is cheap, you'll garuntee get mid-level performance at 1080p 60fps, even the cheapest DD4 RAM they use will still have better performance than previous generations. The only problem is memory they'll still be using shitty mechanical drives until SSDs are cheaper.
new consoles
750GB HDD
12GB DDR3 RAM
custom GTX 950-960 graphic card performance slightly over clocked, more vram
still entry level performance 1080p@40-50fps
>>333010246
why would i care about vr
>>333010171
>homebrew
as soon as Sony figured this out they took out OtherOS from PS3 too
>>333010171
A billion years later!
But seriously yeah, good point
>>333009214
don't know. I grew up with great Sony, and they haven't really done much wrong, unless I'm missing something.
>>333010226
They have us and most of the market. What they are doing is trying to make the products less distinguishable so that they dont lose anymore market share.
>>333010226
Right now MS is trying to turn pc like a console
Feels pretty bad man the war will be long
>>333008970
Hence the mid-cycle refresh, maybe?
>>333010253
>750GB HDD
What the hell makes you think this? The Xbone and PS4 already have 1TB versions. Newer consoles will be 1TB MINIMUM as standard.
>>333010226
>Microsoft is retarded and thinks PC users will buy into the whole platform meme that Applefags fell for.
PC users no longer have a choice
>>333010310
Faggots like George Hotz killed PS3 homebrew.
>>333009819
Basically, this:
>>333009783
I'm a huge console gamer. Really am. Got a pc and everything though. And if a console starts acting like a PC, with 'optional' hardware upgrades, theres going to be no need for consoles. They'll just be less relevant, less versatile PCs. It's almost the same reason why Steam Machines never took off.
Additionally, the cost will start getting to some. Especially if the rumors about the new ps4 with 4k are true.
I don't really give a fuck about Sony doing a PS4.5, it might invigorate me to actually get one now
>>333010416
Congrats, you've just fucked all the people who already have a PS4 and will now be getting subpar performance compared to something else unless they shell out another $400. And don't say people won't care because they will. And it's also weird since apparently Sony and Microsoft think people care too so I'm not sure why Sony would be willing to do this unless it's another hubris move after being on top like with the PS3.
>>333010016
no it's literally optional. they've said this. if you're frame hungry, then just play on a PC.
>>333007704
Here's the problem with you cucks
Releasing a piece of shit on day one and not upgrading the hardware for 8 years is the actual "fuck you"
This really only affects current PS4 owners because unless they upgrade to the newer revision of the PS4, they're gonna get gimped performance in games and will probably miss out on the VR stuff. For people who haven't already jumped on the Sony bandwagon, this console seems like the perfect time to buy one.
It's a dick move by Sony, but I get it.
Reminder that Sony is a fucking shit company.
>Sony tried to undercut Microsofts announcement of BC by claiming they have been working on PS2 BC for at least a year.
>Sony claimed that PS3 BC is "literally impossible" because the Core processor is so advanced.
>Sony "leaked" PS4.5 rumors right after Microsoft announced plans to shorten the console upgrade cycle. Will copy specs from Xbox to one-up their new console again.
>Sony continues to pay for exclusive rights to mediocre services, only to prevent Microsoft users from having the same ability. Applies to most Sony exclusive games, and some apps like Spotify.
>Sony jumped on the VR movement once Oculus gained traction. Shat out a VR headset that abuses reproject, will have subpar performance and will hinder the VR movement.
>Sony talks shit about Microsoft being a closed platform. Microsoft announces they are now open, and Sony says its "too difficult".
Sony is one of the worst companies that currently exist. You are an asshole if you support them.
>>333008457
>I love how console gamers biggest excuse for not going pc is because they don't have to upgrade their system all the time to use it.
Literally no one says this shit and Sony consoles are typically supported for 10+ years so how is it wrong for people to have expected the same for PS4? Games will still be made with the PS4's specs in mind regardless even if a new userbase with the new hardware which is still a rumor at this point, is released.
Even if we had PC's we wouldn't want to be upgrading every week when a new GPU comes out and makes the current build redundant and outdated.
Most of the people on /v/ will stick to consoles regardless because that's where the games are. There isn't a single fucking PC game worth building a $2000 rig for, its a dead platform which lifeblood is now delayed multiplatform games and fucking indies.
>>333008602
Pro tip: the games on the ps4 would be just as shitty and low end even if there never was a ps4k
Why is having a premium option a bad thing?
>>333010608
If people cared about that they would have gone to pc.
XBOX One has to be the biggest dud console of all time
>>333010717
Do you really think people care about consoles not upgrading much? I'd be willing to say most people think consoles are the top of the line in hardware and nothing is better until they upgrade. Hell, I saw people complaining that Arkham Knight was current gen exclusive and saying that last gen was too short and should have been longer. I think you're overestimating the average consolefag.
>>333010902
Not necessarily. Consolefags don't have high standards but they will notice if they're not getting the best experience. Especially in the console space. I mean look at all the shitflinging about the differences between the PS4 and Xbone. If you release a half system that looks and/or performs better and has exclusives there will be complaining. Nothing will probably be done but it won't just slip by people.
doesn't matter to me, all the games I bought a ps4 for are coming out this year and weren't developed with this horse shit in mind, and after I've thoroughly played them all ill probably just trade it back into gameshit like I did with my ps3 and 360
>>333009179
are you stupid?
it isn't moving anything, the PS4.5 is an actual UPGRADE, like the N3DS. it has new hardware and improves shit unlike going from the fat ps3 to the slim ps3 did, it did make the games better or run faster
>>333010832
Thats very butthurt of you anon.
>>333010832
>sony is bad because they respond to microsoft's gaffes with good PR
fuck off
also the xbone is still a closed system
>>333010832
you stupid fucking aspie get the fuck off /v/ right now. the xbone is why vidya sucks along witht he sjws cancers and ea bethesda.
sony are the only good guys in gamign. they care about us and give us the best system at the best price with the best games. they gave us vita that has some of the best jrpg titles ever. and playstation vr is going to be mind blowing.
gtfo off /v/
>>333010832
>Sony continues to pay for exclusive rights to mediocre services, only to prevent Microsoft users from having the same ability.
>Applies to most Sony exclusive games
Show me a single game Sony paid artificial exclusivity for this gen like Microsoft did with Tomb Raider.
I'll wait.
Hopefully though this causes you to really question your corporate loyalty although I know it won't because you're brainwashed hard as fuck.
>>333010950
How did you come to that conclusion? There's been plenty of console failures throughout the years, the Xbone definitely isn't one of them though.
I love my Vita.
>>333010537
False
I admit pc are superior but there's no marketing push that will lure console users
You know the type of marketing you see after watching a movie like
>play the future first
>supercharged pc
>this is 4 the players
The ps4 taco box the xbone billboards on buses it's everywhere
Hurr gotta play dat nba 2k and cod dats the shit man
No one markets pc because no one owns it thus no benefits
I'm amazed shit is still around
>>333011214
Everybody Goes to the Rapture
SFV
Soma maybe (it's exclusive on consoles to the PS4)
>>333011207
Aren't dev kits open to ALL Xbone users now? Literally anybody with an Xbone can get a dev kit and make games for it.
>>333011214
>Show me a single game Sony paid artificial exclusivity for this gen like Microsoft did with Tomb Raider.
Are you retarded?
>>333011406
SFV is on PC.
>>333011160
>>333011207
>>333011213
>>333011214
GJ Sonyggers. Keep devouring that plate of yellow shit.
>>333011478
Yes but not on their competitors box due to Sony
Sony knows pc users don't give a shit about fighting anyways
>>333011478
So is Rise of the Tomb Raider, dumbass.
>>333011632
Not the same guy, but okay.
>>333011138
>are you stupid?
are you?
N3DS was a new gen, not an upgrade to an existing one
also slim PS3s had larger hard drives than their fat forebears, so they were an improvement nonetheless
also there is no reason to believe that PS4.5 will improve anything since games still need to be coded to run on older version of the hardware
This is for VR and better 4K compatibility, most users won't see any difference
>>333011092
>weren't developed with this horse shit in mind
Have you played the FFXV demo? Did you play Bloodborne? The frame rates are atrocious and I'm a bit surprised Sony even accepts this kind of stuff for certification.
>>333011478
There are more and more Xbone+PC and PS4+PC games because both Microsoft and Sony have realized PC sales don't affect console sales. If people are playing on PC it means they're not playing on the competitor's console.
>>333010480
>allowing updates
lel
>>333010832
Like...youre technically right on these, but wrong on some of the details.
Like the ps3 core wasn't too advanced, it was too weird. remember how multiplat games were just slightly worse on ps3 for a long time? That was one of the big factors in the ps4's architecture.
MS would have never let spotify on their console. You have to use Xbox Music. Sony's own service failed (music unlimited), so they struck a deal with Spotify, which is the most popular service, rather than a proprietary one.
Sony worked with Oculus and HTC to get basic specs and standards down for all three devices. Engineers have stated that they're going to reject any game that doesn't run in 60fps for these reasons. The PSVR will be the most successful VR device because of the low barrier of entry and price.
>>333011593
>not on their competitors box due to Sony
no, that would be due to crapcom
>>333011593
SFV will be on the Xbone at some point. Expect the Arcade version to be revealed at E3 across all platforms. Sony only have console exclusivity over that particular irritation of SFV.
>>333009554
It's mostly because of the fact that if even one smug faggot Sony fanboy buys that thing then it makes him and every PS4 fan look like a huge hypocrite douche and would completely remove any reason to buy the console.
>>333011406
>>333011539
>>333011593
>Everybody Goes to the Rapture, SFV
Moron.
Everybody Goes to the Rapture was co-developed and published by Sony. Street Fighter 5 was co-funded by Sony and literally wouldn't have been a thing without them. They also helped published it.
Try again.
Show me a single current gen game in which Sony paid truly cancerous timed exclusivity for like Tomb Raider.
I'll wait.
>>333011713
>N3DS was a new gen, not an upgrade to an existing one
No, it's not.
>also slim PS3s had larger hard drives than their fat forebears, so they were an improvement nonetheless
You can put whatever fucking size hard drive you like in a PS3, it's just a basic ass 2.5" drive.
>>333011757
>implying 99% of PC users even know what you're referring to
>buying a PS4 over a Vita
Why?
>>333010842
>Games will still be made with the PS4's specs in mind regardless
I think you're about to learn a hard lesson. I'll wager that by the time Christmas 2017 rolls around pretty much no Playstation games will run acceptably on the standard PS4 and retail stock will be drying up as Sony cuts the supply.
>>333011887
I hope anyone who chooses to game on PC over a console has the knowledge to do this.
>>333011848
>Street Fighter 5 was co-funded by Sony and literally wouldn't have been a thing without them
I'm guessing a huge company like fucking Capcom could have found SOME WAY to fund a game like fucking Street Fighter without Sony's generosity. They could have made it a Kickstarter and it would have been funded 100%.
>>333011848
Ff7 remake
Aka
Play it first on ps4
>>333011747
This is maybe how the Xbone is operating (though there are still some games on there not coming to PC and those that are coming is more from desperation for sales rather than anything about not caring) but Sony is still keeping most of their games on their console. And what isn't totally exclusive is most likely just them not wanting to pay enough for full exclusivity. There's nothing customer friendly about it like you're implying, it's just a question of money, regardless of what they say.
Not to mention Microsoft's attempted killing of PC with Windows 10 and trying to combine the Xbox and PC.
>>333011471
>Are you retarded?
Do you even know what artificial exclusivity is? Japan Studios literally worked with Fromsoft to make this game. Sony approached fromsoft and fucking funded this game.
Microsoft fans are fucking braindead.
>>333012021
Didn't SFV sell terribly? The game is much more reputation, nostalgia, and hardcore fan base than an actually relevant series at this point.
>>333011848
SFV.
Also, aren't Sony the ones who are now paying for timed exclusivity for CoD map packs? They also paid for exclusive rights to advertise Destiny. They moneyhat just as much as MS.
>>333011854
>No, it's not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console#Handheld_game_consoles_6
DS was 7th gen, 3DS was 8th
>You can put whatever fucking size hard drive you like in a PS3, it's just a basic ass 2.5" drive.
moving the goalposts again
the larger harddrives were absolutely a selling point to the newer models and don't even try to pretend they weren't
>windows 10
>on a console
>>333009214
Most of /v/ are children or NEETs
Both are too poor to shove out another $400 dollars so they can buy their panty quests.
And the regular ps4 still got too little exclusives to really justify their purchase right now so they could've waited with buying the console for a couple of years to buy the 4.5.
Basically they feel like they should have the full ps4 experience until the next generation because the ps4 doesn't really justify its price right now due to the low amount of exclusives it has.
They feel cheated due to low amount of games.
>>333008916
>Selective forgetting that the Wii U 8th gen and the NX 9th gen.
2012 WiiU
2013 Xbone and PS4
>>333012234
that's a big heart
>>333012234
I get paid about 2 million a year so I don't mind buying another PS4.
Is /v/ really that poor?
>>333011773
Just so you know. When they say 60 fps, they are referring to the combined fps total between 3 projections.
They are secretly saying that they will not allow a game that runs slower than 20 fps.
>>333012203
When people say N3DS, they're referring to the New 3DS, not the Nintendo 3DS.
>the larger harddrives were absolutely a selling point to the newer models
I don't see how that can be true, when I could have spent $100 on a 500GB replacement drive instead of $250 for an entirely new system.
Maybe it was a selling point to mindless consumers, but you're not one of those, are you?
>>333012203
N3DS= 3DS with extra buttons
3DS= 8th generation handheld
DS= 7th generation handheld
>>333012384
Not all of us can be trust fund kiddies.
>>333012329
The Wii U is a 7.5 system to my eyes. It was just Nintendo trying to cash in on the Wii's success while they still could. Unfortunately the casuals had moved onto android/iOS games by that point.
>>333012170
That had more to do with the image of it being early access instead of a complete game. They tried to sell the game to normies while designing the game for tournament pros. It was a marketing disaster, you can't even blame the PC audience, PS4 players were angry too.
>>333012430
>New 3DS
welp, I'm out of the loop
>I could have spent $100 on a 500GB replacement drive instead of $250 for an entirely new system.
you are the 1%
also I only bought the PS3 when the slim was released because i didn't want the phat version
last console I'll ever buy
>>333007174
Translation: we're going to wait to see if there is a ps4.5 and then the specs then we will release Xbox two which will cost the same but be slightly more powerful.
>>333012546
I don't even remember the marketing for the game. Did it actually come out yet?
>>333012073
Publisher decision, just like FFXV will be console-first.
Sony can't afford and are neither invested in timed exclusivity for current gen FF games, it's counter productive. They spend more time with their in-house developed than squares shit.
>>333012798
>They spend more time with their in-house developed than squares shit
The amount of games that has come of this speaks otherwise.
>>333012793
Yeah. basically the competive mode cam out in time for fighting game tournaments and they promised story modes and other stuff later. The release was intended for fighting game pros but of course ads were splashed all over Steam and everywhere else. Normies bought the game expecting the full release and of course seeing it was early access got pissed. It was a pretty big PR disaster for Capcom even though the actual gameplay was alright.,
>>333008602
You are joking right? Consoles generally get sneaky hardware updates, it's why buying a ps3 slim or whatever will always run games better than the original. The original are the specs in which games run. Remember when xbox 360s kept RRoD'ing and they ened up just releasing a whole new hardware setup for it. You clearly don't know much about "hardware" as shown here >>333008957 and here >>333011138
The only issue you should have with a 4.5 is if they start making 4.5 only games, which they won't.
>>333013038
Charging full price was a retarded move
>>333012384
I'm not really sure you need to be poor to raise an eyebrow at the PS4.5 or an accelerated hardware cycle in general.
It's a fair question, looking at the PS4's current library, the awful initial quality of the controllers, the noise and heat issues of the console, the paid online, and the god awful frame rates of some of the system's upcoming big titles, to ask whether this system was a good system.
For me, it is easily, easily one of the absolute worst consoles I have ever owned. It is in Sega Saturn territory and I don't mean mod chip and imported games Saturn.
That Sony is basically pushing an upgraded model already is actually a warning sign to me to get out of their ecosystem and get out now. I feel bad for some of these dumb faggots who have all of their music tied up in Apple's cloud and now they can't leave without losing all of it.
In the overall scheme of things, I think Sony is making the same mistake they made with PS3 -- they have deluded themselves into thinking that video game consoles are a "premium" market. They aren't. They are a low end market and Sony is a low end brand with a low end product with high end prices.
The player pool for consoles is already collapsing and the companies are going to turn to whale hunting [guys like you] to survive. I anticipate it not being very successful as people just wait for "upgraded" versions when deciding when to jump in and customer confusion becoming much worse when trying to figure out what's backward compatible or forward compatible with what system.
>>333012952
That's because you only know if big AAA names like Infamous SS and Bloodborne, they release a lot of games that simply fly under the radar which are played by real PlayStation fans who ironically don't actually browse /v/. If you also count in the games they had a hand in development with like No mans sky, the witness, firewatch, their games add up extremely fast
>>333013121
Yeeeeeaaaahhh. For all the content available at launch, it probably should've cost about $30. I might've actually bought it if that were the case.
>>333013101
To add to that, the 360 S models and above actually have a faster processor speed than it's predecessors. They're just under clocked for compatibility purposes.
>>333013038
Oof, yeah I took a look at the store page on Steam. Not a great start for the game, hopefully it picks up speed. Not much of a fighting fan, but thought the music was great.
>>333013164
They don't realize most casuals have no loyalty
The go for the cheaper and stronger box
Right now they are duiking users around with shit ps plus games and many are taking note
A console with a new gen apu would set the 40-50 mil userbase on fire
>>333013165
>real PlayStation fans
that's a funny way to refer to casuals
>>333013361
The game's reaction would have been positive if they delayed the release a few months. It's all about the esports crowd though I guess.
>>333013165
>games they had a hand in development with
That's a funny way to spell moneyhatting
>sf killed In one fell swoop
So is monster hunter all capcom has left?
>>333013645
Even then I could of sworn I heard PS4s having trouble with the game at some competition last week.
Couldn't they have just done what Double Helix did with KI? That game didn't have the greatest launch but it worked. Now it's been basically reworked 3 times already and plays great.
>>333013361
Yeah it's industry standard. Hardware manufacturing companies streamline the process and make it easier/cheaper to create better parts.
Why would a company pay more to facilitate a shittier part? 4.5 and console updates on the regular should be part of industry standard. Shit consoles should work like patch cycles, one day they should just decide "Hey ps5 is technically out, you can run the games on your ps4.5 until companies actually design for the console".
Call it a "Play Now, Upgrade Later" plan or some shit, normies will eat it up.
>>333010351
playstation plus has been shit since ps4 came out
>>333013165
>real Playstation fans
Are console gamers even loyal to a single platform over multiple gens? I had a Sega Genesis when I was younger, then an N64 because the Saturn was too expensive. The a Gamecube/Xbox because that's what my friends had. Skipped Wii because I didn't like the idea of motion controls, bought a 360. Then moved to PC because I thought Xbone and PS4 were dumb and most people I know play CSGO or LoL. Looking back, I just bought what my friends had or what was on sale, the idea of being a Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft fan is bizarre.
>I want to move forward in big numbers
>have a controller that is the same price as some of the 3ds versions
>just bet in the US market
>can't sell in the asian market
>europeans don't even care about the Xbox because most services aren't available there
The PS4.5 is bullshit, but even before that they sell the PS4 EVERYWHERE. Microsoft keeps failing and the only thing they do is making jokes. Really good job
>>333008258
Incremental updates that while more stable and sometimes actually faster hardware wise, didn't really perform that much faster aside from slightly faster loading times or maybe 2-3 more FPS. Older and newer models still performed about on par FPS wise, and there weren't any game features tied specifically to newer models.
The only exceptions are the DSi, the new 3DS and later PSP models, and now the PS4K.
>>333014048
>Looking back, I just bought what my friends had
this is why MS is trying desperately to get cross-console play
>>333013953
I would be surprised if future iterations of the PS4/Xbone didn't run the current OS built for them. At this point it's a given, have software made for both consoles run without any modifications. Microsoft has UWA to do that and Sony, well, I'm sure they have something.
That is, if the normies stop buying consoles all together. Lemme tell you, I see more phone game ads at the gym than console titles these days. All of them look like Age of Empires ripoffs no less.
>>333014048
There are people that do stick to one company. I'll never understand it. Just buy it when you feel like it's worth it, no need to pledge loyalty to a shitty box.
>>333013164
Your opinions largely fall flat because you're essentially basing them on a rumor and even then, a premium and consumer market for consoles can exist independently if they do it right.
Sony did make a mistake with the PS3 but they've learned their lesson and returned to their roots.
The success of a console is has a lot to do with how accessible and favourable the conditions are to third and first party developers. If Sony can retain a decent installbase while maintain good relations with developers, consoles will continute to set the standards in the industry and net the best software.
What you don't realize is if consoles actually fail, a huge chunck of the gaming industry will go down with them. Consoles do have their own shortcomings but without them a lot of good video games simply won't exist any more. Mark Cerny noted how important hardware stability is for game development and he's completely right.
If you eliminated Xbox, Nintendo and Sony in one fell swoop at this current moment in time the industry would be atrocious.
>>333014718
>What you don't realize is if consoles actually fail, a huge chunck of the gaming industry will go down with them. Consoles do have their own shortcomings but without them a lot of good video games simply won't exist any more.
That's a risk I, and probably a lot of other people, are willing to take.
>>333014048
>the idea of being a Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft fan is bizarre.
Well kind of but not really, rather than seeing people as fans of the company, they are usually fans of video game franchises the company has established.
>move forward in big numbers
Then how come Xbox One is barely an improvement over Xbox 360? Neither piece of shit can sustain 1080p/60fps in 2016 when 144fps should be the standard.
Can't wait until annual hardware upgrades are the norm for consoles like they are for phones.
>>333014991
I totally get why people might be fans of specific franchises. Hell, I loved Zelda but it still wasn't enough to get me to buy a Wii since 1. Twilight Princess was on Gamecube and 2, I hated the Wiimote. Franchises are important, hell, look at Microsoft's attempt to turn KI into their own Smash Bros. It's just that I think friends are more important than the consoles themselves in a lot of cases. Look at PS4, it won because it's the best multiplat machine, the exclusives didn't matter at all.
>>333015165
>Then how come Xbox One is barely an improvement over Xbox 360? Neither piece of shit can sustain 1080p/60fps in 2016 when 144fps should be the standard.
The same reason why more than 70% of Steam users can't even do 1080p. You still can't build a $300 PC that will outperform a PS4
You say 144fps should be standard, that is based on what exactly?
>>333015165
>144fps should be the standard
most TVs are still only 60fps, so no
also, I really can't see this hardware revision making any difference for the core gaming experience
it's not like all your games are suddenly going to be 4K native res and 60 fps
>>333015165
>Then how come Xbox One is barely an improvement over Xbox 360?
It's actually a decent upgrade but devs are prioritizing graphics over performance like always.
>144fps should be the standard
Same with resolutions over 1080p, almost nobody using consoles has a screen above 1080p 60Hz so it's kind of silly to think that consoles should be doing anything higher than that.
>>333012175
MS went to EA and made an exclusive deal for Titanfall and other sports vidya deal at that time when the Activision v respawn entertainment verdict is being finalized.
>>333015165
>Then how come Xbox One is barely an improvement over Xbox 360? Neither piece of shit can sustain 1080p/60fps in 2016 when 144fps should be the standard.
Most television sets sold on the market are 60Hz. Even then most developers have the simple philosophy that their games must use high resolution textures and particle effects out the ass with no idea what to do when the build they shit out to the console runs like arse. Just look at Broforce on the PS4 for example.
4k just started its push. 144Hz is a niche that won't reach to everyone.
>>333014718
>You're essentually basing them on a rumor
No, it's definitely happening. I don't need an obvious viral marketer from Sony trying to do damage control to figure this out. There are articles from 2013 -- behind a paywall -- describing Sony as wanting to go to this type of accelerated cycle. The very design of the system and the components they used indicates that this is exactly what they intended.
>a premium and consumer market for consoles can exist independently if they do it right
Again, you're not fundamentally understanding what is happening. Early adoption rates are going to slow down because people will just wait for the upgraded model they know it coming later. Sony is banking everything on the small niche of wealthy game addicts.
>Sony did make a mistake with the PS3 but they've learned their lesson and returned to their roots
They are moving to introduce a very premium product to a low-end market on an accelerated hardware cycle that increases the costs of staying in their low-end ecosystem. It is exactly the same as PS3. Sony's roots in the gaming industry was being a value priced [they undercut Saturn] system with lots of games. The PS4 has one of the worst and shallowest libraries in gaming history. Again, you can viral market somewhere other than /v. We can all see right through you.
>What you don't realize is if consoles actually fail, a huge chunk of the gaming industry will go down with them
No, I understand that perfectly well. The industry is already starting to contract and with the current budgets of games, that's a nightmare scenario. That's why I said Sony is turning to whale hunting, and I don't think they'll be successful at it. If the industry doesn't survive, or lots of it gets taken out, that's not really my problem -- I don't own any stock in gaming companies and I don't owe Sony my money if they aren't providing a good product -- which they aren't.
>>333007174
>Don't expect Xbox One and a half
no, expect Windows 10 to fill that particular role
I just wish consoles would treat 1080p/60fps as the standard. Most people have 1080p/60Hz monitors or TVs. 144Hz and 4k are still enthusiast specs, but the fact that consoles can't hit 1080p/60 on almost all games is really bad.
>>333009893
Its only OK if Nintendo does it.
>>333011067
>they will notice if they're not getting the best experience
Ahaha no, they will usually gladly slurp up their console diarrhea and beg for more, responding to most criticism with FUCK YOU I LIKE IT
>>333016237
You're already seeing it with the differences between the PS4 and Xbone. Now imagine if that happens within Sony consoles. You're right when it comes to comparisons to PC but if there's a glaring difference in the console space people will definitely notice.
>>333015968
The platform holders are very reliant on third party support [well Nintendo isn't, but you can bet they'd like to be at this juncture] and they really can't enforce any kinds of standards without backlash.
Console gamers have been conditioned to accept 30fps just so devs can throw more particle effects on the screen and since most of them are normalfags playing FPS with an analog stick, they don't ever notice.
I asked a friend about how he felt on the idea of incremental updates for his PS4. He was actually shocked at the very idea and wasn't happy.
I wonder how others like him feel on the idea. Any of you folks ask friends, family, etc. about this?
>>333007704
>4 years
yes? People upgraded their PCs around that amount of time
>>333015882
>No, it's definitely happening.
Do you have proof? Until then cease speaking as if the rumor is true.
>Early adoption rates are going to slow down because people will just wait for the upgraded model they know it coming later.
We're beyond the phase of early adoption, and Sony can facilitate this entire situation by releasing a slim iteration. Something you don't seem to realize is how many games are currently in development for the PS4's current spec.
>They are moving to introduce a very premium product to a low-end market
Again, stop talking like you have verifiable proof, it's just making you look like an idiot who is relying on strawman arguments to get your point across.
>The industry is already starting to contract and with the current budgets of games, that's a nightmare scenario. That's why I said Sony is turning to whale hunting
Sony is well aware of what is happening to current game budgets, they are making games themselves. They know perfectly well introducing a more powerful console and upping the graphical standards can backfire completely while simultaneously alienating their existing 40mil userbase. If you think they'll walk into that just to bank on building a new installbase for a new and more stronger powerful piece of hardware, you'd be more stupid than they are.
Your entire point falls plat because it is a ultimately rumor and how unlikely it is to happen. The most sensible conclusion anyone can come to is that they are releasing a slim with minor hardware improvements.
Based Phil
>>333016594
People don't buy consoles for the same reasons they upgrade PC's. The audiences are different. This is why people are so upset at the idea of consoles using PC-style upgrades, normies don't want to have to upgrade their Playstation or Xbox or worry about shit like benchmarks.
>>333016594
You also don't always need to upgrade every component all at once on PC. You can also turn down settings to stretch your hardware a little further. You also don't need to pay another $50 a year to use your own internet that you're already paying for and with all of the sales at the different online vendors, you often pay much less for software if you buy smart.
And that's really what console platforms are playing at with a potentially faster upgrade cycle -- if enough of their user base is going to keep staying dumb and accepting the propaganda that you need to buy a $700 GPU to be play games.
>>333016697
It must be nice to have an audience who very happy with the current Xbone with mediocre graphics and sub par performance compare to the PS4 and way behind the bell curve compared to he PC.
How does MS does it?!
>>333016619
>The most sensible conclusion anyone can come to is that they are releasing a slim with minor hardware improvements.
Pretty much. Anything more and chances are it wouldn't end well.
Most I could say is that a year or two after this slim model we'll see a successor. By then we'd have hit 5-6ish years with the current consoles.This generation is such shit. Very little notable things have occurred or come out. Where has the time gone?
>>333016619
FUCK OFF MARKETER.
PS 4.5 is stupid, anyway, and Microsoft rightly understand that.
Nobody wants to buy a new system that will be absolutely the same than the old, with the same games, but costing $200 more. All that for what? 60 FPS native?
It's absolutely retarded. It will bomb hard, and I don't even begin to understand what Sony is thinking.
>>333017110
>costing $200 more
source?
>>333016994
It is the most likely scenario but I think if they were actually going to release an iteration with improved hardware, it would be something so drastically improved it wouldn't even interfere with the core market for their existing console.
That's why I said before Sony can establish a premium market independently if they do it right. It's already a thing with high end PC gaming and regular PC gaming/consoles.
Why don't consoles just have a PCI-e port where you can fit your own GPU in, then they can literally be locked-down PCs.
>>333017110
>I don't even begin to understand what Sony is thinking.
Instead of selling cutting edge hardware at a loss for 6-7 years, Sony wants to sell competitive -- but immediately profitable -- hardware in shorter intervals to disguise the tech gap between itself and PC [while also pulling the Apple trick of bloating the software so it compels those with older hardware to upgrade].
All those billions of dollars they lost on PS3 aren't going to make themselves up.
>>333017110
>costing $200 more
says who?
>All that for what? 60 FPS native?
games won't just magically run better because of a small hardware revision
this is for VR and 4K support, nothing else will change
>>333016965
Shut the fuck up nerd I own a ps4 as well and the xbone has its own benefits
>>333017432
>All those billions of dollars they lost on PS3 aren't going to make themselves up.
They already have made all of it back but lost in terms of potential profit they should have made in those years.
>>333017323
>It's already a thing with high end PC gaming and regular PC gaming/consoles.
The high-end PC gaming market is its own thing entirely and many of those people either never touch consoles or own multiple systems alongside their PC [they are whales].
Mid-range and lower-end PC gaming is made up of people who are smart enough to figure out that for slightly more expensive hardware upfront, they will come out ahead of consoles in value and largely exceed them in performance. The console market desperately doesn't want this segment of people to grow.
>>333008208
People were promised the ps4 was going to be the best console with best graphics and ran games much better. It was going to sit on your entertainment system for the next 10 years as your go to console.
Instead within 3 years basically Sony said nah this is the real ps4. It has 4K graphics and will run games at 60fps at 1080p (which was promised with the original ps4).
I wouldn't be surprised if they were running the 2013 e3 demos on the ps4 4K.
>>333017395
>Why don't consoles just have a PCI-e port where you can fit your own GPU in, then they can literally be locked-down PCs.
wouldn't change a thing
consoles are so locked down their games' framerate and resolution are hard-coded
>>333017717
>It has 4K graphics and will run games at 60fps at 1080p
not happening
they are going to support 4k upscaling of existing resolutions at the same framerate
>>333017717
Stop talking out of your ass
>>333017613
Glad to know you've got the earnings reports in front of you.
>>333008452
Was it just Halo that save the OG Xbox, or did it have solid sales otherwise with other games. I know there's several classics on it, but I largely gave the console a pass until the 360.
>>333007391
He's not fleecing his customers for a mild upgrade, he's also not jumping into the VR bandwagon.
How can one man be so absolutely based?
>>333017909
not him but the next one is coming up
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/calendar/presen/
>>333017679
>The console market desperately doesn't want this segment of people to grow
Well MS doesn't seem to care since they plan on uniting both spaces
Sony might though likely why it rushed it's own vr though is a bit late
>>333017323
>if they do it right
That's a big 'if' man. Only time will tell. Consoles are already a hard sell to the average person when they'll just grab a roku or some shit.
The kind of people who have a ps4 these days are the ones that wanted a dedicated CoD/Madden/GTA machine, JRPG machine, people who play all kinds of games (very rare in my experience), own one because they can, or own one but don't know why.
Not exactly the greatest audience here. But I have no sources on these aside from person experiences.
This is for point five the players.
>>333018013
>How can one man be so absolutely based?
Microsoft has their own upgrade plans>>333010480
>>333018013
HOLOLENS
>>333018119
That has no bearing into the discussion at hand. Try to stay focused, sonybrony.
>>333017940
It was a big player but I think what really kicked it off was Xbox Live's launch a year later.
>>333017679
Understandably, but I still think if Sony can make a premium console, it'll be an answer to the looming idea of PC gaming and something that can be sold for-profit right off the end of the bat for dedicated people with the disposable incomes to buy it and eventually play the long game.
I really have no idea how something like that would pan out though
>>333018020
Don't know why but I keked
>>333018215
>no bearing into the discussion at hand
>literally turning PCs into consoles to make up for lost xbone sales
could you be any more desperate to defend a corporate shill?
I don't even own a current-gen console
>>333017613
I don't think you quite understand how big a failure the cell was.
The cell was meant to be the chip to end all chips. Sony was envisioning a future where every device was running a cell, from servers to desktops to mobile phones to your fucking fridge. They thought the PS3 was going to be top of the line hardware for at least 10 years.
The cell was a monumental failure.
>>333018026
>Well MS doesn't seem to care since they plan on uniting both spaces
This is a good point and another aspect that makes me scratch my head at what the fuck Sony is thinking.
Sony won this generation by being more powerful than Xbox One and by undercutting Microsoft on price [going so far as to put all studios making games under an NDA and then yanking their camera add-on out at the last minute after MS announced the $499 Kinnect system].
If Sony wants to get into a 3 year upgrade war with Microsoft, how often do they expect Microsoft to keep doing dumb stuff like wasting die space on eDRAM or not undercutting Sony? Microsoft isn't always going to go first at the big conferences and expos.
Cross buy on PC, game sharing through remote account logins on Xbox Live, getting to keep your free indie games even if you cancel your Live subscription, decades ahead in cloud infrastructure. Sony doesn't really measure up in the online services department, so they should probably think very carefully about getting into an accelerated arms race with a company like MS.
>>333007704
Consoles are going to die out otherwise. A system with up-gradable components is the only way going forward for this market. These consoles are only 3 years old but already they are struggling to play new games.
>>333007174
Nintendo did slightly the same with the GameBoy family (Color), Wii (motion plus required to some games otherwise they just don't work), exactly the same with DS family (DSi) and now is doing it with the 3DS (New 3DS).
Just accept the fact. There are people who are buying these upgrades regardless we find it fair or not. If it sells... they'll keep throwing more and more at us.
>>333009214
Xbox gets way more shit here
>>333018324
Except Sony is breaking records despite launching with shit games and the pc styling on it and the PS3 for years
The only reason these people don't get a pc is because console gaming is cheaper upfront even though subs and expensive games even things out. The ps4 has been performing shit for years now vs a budget pc in some cases and that didnt stop sales
Same with the xbone it's still growing
>>333018610
>Sony won this generation by being more powerful than Xbox One
nope
>and by undercutting Microsoft on price
this and winning the PR war about used games and the xbone being the NSAbox with its "always listening" Kinect garbage
MS were absolutely rekt by Sony at E3, and it shows with how fucking fast they backtracked on everything
>>333018602
>ony was envisioning a future where every device was running a cell, from servers to desktops to mobile phones to your fucking fridge.
And we saw how that went. I'm willing to bet the reason the super slim model is as big as it is thanks to this chip.
Despite that the Cell is still used, albeit commercially but it's design is still in use.
Just fix Windows 10 it's a fucking mess
>>333018610
>Cross buy on Windows 10 store
FTFY
>>333007704
>be me
>buy consoles end of gen to pirate all the exclusives
>don't give a fuck about your console kid problems.
Buy a pc then faggot, Still waiting on thatPC2
>>333018864
working as intended
>>333018653
I think there's an argument to made that the industry needs longer cycles at this point in time, not faster upgrades. Developers are already having trouble getting games out on time and on budget. It's not that the hardware can't get better, but we are getting to the point where die shrinks aren't going to lower costs -- they are going to raise them. And that's assuming all goes well beyond 14nm. I know IBM has some prototypes of 7nm, but I think Intel has been having real trouble getting acceptable results from 10nm.
>>333012153
Microsoft approached Square and funded Tomb Raider
what's your point
>>333018610
>Sony doesn't really measure up in the online services department, so they should probably think very carefully about getting into an accelerated arms race with a company like MS.
Right on. Sony entertainment's account system still don't support 2FA at the minimum. They clearly can't keep up with the whole cloud shit.
>>333019119
They paid for timed exclusitivity
>>333007174
Spencer only pretends to be based pc porting B tier shit like quantum break, and pretending like he is gonna make xbox into just windows based steam machines. If the fuckwr really cared hed release halo 5 and the master chief collection on PC.
Hell no split screen coop on xbone cause technical limitations? No problem put it in the w10 version
>>333019068
>Intel has been having real trouble getting acceptable results from 10nm.
that's why they're extending their tick/tock development cycle into a three-stage process
>>333007174
I'm not expecting another Xbox desu senpai.
>the servers are doing well.
looooooool
>>333010370
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