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Shouldn't space marine be called imperial guards and imperial guards be called space marines? xD
>>332982365
What the fuck
>>332980694
depends who is more intimidating to the orks
>>332980694
Chief could probably beat most SM short of Primarchs.
The average Spartan would probably get rekt by the shittest of SM.
>>332982828
This is fair
>>332982365
The Imperial Guard is the name of the regular army, since they have a large presence in the entire Imperium and are able to quickly respond to any threat, ergo they guard the Imperium. Space Marines are the elite infantry that is used in the more extreme cases, where some shit needs to be fucked up quick, so Adeptus Astartes, or Space Marines, is more apporpriate.
>>332982828
I'd think Chapter Masters or even a lucky captain could take the chief.
>>332980694
Well which one is more quotable?
>>332980694
Trick question, pic related takes all
>>332982828
Considering that the Chief is blessed by plot armor, or flat luck, this is probably accurate. Not without some difficulty, though.
>>332980694
The pic makes it look like Chief is sucking the Space Marine's dick
orks under s single waagh >>>>>>>
>>332985247
Do space marines even have dicks?
>>332985542
nope
>>332982365
He's right.
>>332980694
/tg/ already dealt with this
>>332984929
Magic bird technology > anything
A Space Marine would easily win. Far better equipment and training but this is easy considering it's in the year 40000.
>>332984929
how many space marines would it take to kill samus? lets say a bolter round is about as powerful as a regular missile.
>>332985841
about one with plasmagun.
>>332983605
I know what you're saying, on the flip side;
IG are closer to modern day marines, being ordinary humans who are trained to deploy in foreign locations. Imperial Guard sounds more prestigious and less like a conventional military unit, the personal bodyguards of an emperor or an imperial palace.
>>332985841
not how many as much as how powerful of one, she could probably stand up to something like a Primarch with a full set of her gear at end game
>>332985542
Yes they do. They don't get removed, they just don't get excited unless it's for the glory of the emperor.
Warhammer 40K is for obnoxious mouthbreathing retards who have the need to win "internet arguments" about which made up universe could beat all other made up universes.
I have a feeling that the makers of 40K created the size and scale of their universe as a huge inside joke. Ships the size of planets, alien invasions that span half the galaxy, 10 foot tall humans that weigh a ton, it's fucking retarded.
But don't worry, because if you question ANY of this you're called a "heretic" and the circle jerk continues.
Well guess what, my 40cuck friends, i just imagined, in my head, of a ship twice the size of the largest ship in the 40K universe maned by trans-dimensional meta humans that fire psi-weapons capable of melting even the most powerful space marine armor, and they just got done fucking your mother.
>>332980694
The space Marine bolter gun is essentially a anti-material calibre riffle with exploding ammo that detonates after penetrating.
A couple shots would kill the chief, and seeing as to how enhanced the Space marines are, just about better in every single fucking way, armor included, strip down the plot armor of both, and the space marines wins every single time.
>>332984929
it still bothers me that the fucking suit is not a suit at all its just FUCKING SPACE BIRD MAGIC SON IT APPEARS NIGGA RUNS ON EMOTIONS WHY? FUCK YOU THATS WHY
i used to imagine samus running maintenance and checks before putting it onshe will never be a amazon either just a submissive jap mans dream
>>332986089
There really more like the modern day army. A large group of generally trained soldiers meant to occupy and secure a large geographic location. Generally competent in their designed task with some badass specialized units or older units held to a higher standard from a historic pedigree.
>>332986480
You're an idiot and the point of 40k is over-the-top sci-fi
it's from the 80's
>http://dagobah.net/flash/Space_Marines_vs_Spartans.swf
>>332986810
Fine, whatever, nobody gives two shits about how large your ships are. It's not the source material i have so much of a problem with but with the fans who can't shut the fuck up about it.
>>332986810
His complaint is fairly valid because for about as far back as I can remember (Mid 2005) any discussion of anything on this site that mentions strength or power in the slightest... Space Marines get brought up.
It's kinda like how people used to complain how Furries tried turning all discussions towards Furries... 40K fanboys do the exact same thing. It gets tiresome.
>>332986627Other M isn't canon, just treat it like that
also even before then it's always been somewhat of a magic-fueled type thing that the Chozo whipped up, with the materializing on her and disintegrating and everything
>>332986920
You entered a wh40k thread, wilingly, knowing that there would be wh40k talk, you obviously do care seeing as how you are mentioning how large the ships are, bitching about it and mentioning it again to try and mock people who enjoy the ridiculous nature of it, and then complain about a fanbase who mostly stays in its own threads talking about it, talking about it in one of its own threads.
Son, go to sleep and stop posting.
>>332980694
Space Marine, how is that a question?
>>332986480
>scale of their universe as a huge inside joke
Congratulations on figuring out that 40k is completely tongue-in-cheek.Or at least it was to begin with, now it's hard to tell.
>>332987189
Don't worry ,you guys don't hesitate to bring it up at the first opportunity, even when nobody asked you to. Star wars vs Star Trek thread? Bring up 40K and how their planet size ships could "totally own" a Super Star Destroyer.
So maybe i could return the favor and come to where i'm not wanted and annoy you with posts that you don't want to see.
>>332987596
>planet size ships
And those are?
>>332985978
just no.
>>332986480
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>>332987596
Oh shit, you're that same guy in the Space Marine vs Jedi thread. I'm almost sure of it. I should be able to find your posts. Give me a bit.
>>332987596
You're not annoying, you're just making a fool of yourself. By all means, carry on! I love the salt.
>>332987596
Please stop, you're acting like an autistic child. So much so that it makes the norm seem tame.
>>332987596
Nigger, I doubt the sort of shit you are doing is even common enough to be mad about, but even if so, you got so angry about the worst people within a group of likeminded individuals you decide to just go and fuck up the group of people who share the same interests but ain't fucking shit up?
Not only is that legit 12 year old mentality, its also what radical SJW shit is all about. Thinking one small minority or random individual englobes everything and so hating everything with irrational passion while looking like a dunce is what rabbid hamplanets do, you look like a straight up triggered NEET.
>>332987596
Christ, this is some serious autism.
>>332987846
>Space Marine vs Jedi
That's really not fair unless it's a grey knight or some other psyker.
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>>332988108
Looks like someone got triggered, what's wrong 40Kbabies, sobody mocked your space maweens?
>>332986480
>getting mad over 40k nonsense
faggot
>>332988172
>So autisticaly mad he can only post reaction images, trying to make us look like fools
You can't feign retardation anon, the sperg is obvious, and you are the only one triggered.
>>332988324
>Does't know how to read
Typical 40cuck
>>332986480
>I have a feeling that the makers of 40K created the size and scale of their universe as a huge inside joke
DING DING DING
finally time for midnight WH40k discussion
ORKZ DA BES'!
>>332980694
Space Sues don't stand a chance against based Halo SPARTANs, no matter what 40k fanboys say.
>>332988172
>Using babytalk
Oshit you got me anon.
>>332988172
You tell em' buddy!
>>332988372
but you are triggered by 40k talk, in a 40k vs thread of all things
>>332988427
Please refer to
>>332985694
Its just a "My dad could beat up your dad" but in that department, Space Marines kind of win in every single possible way.
>>332988569
Nope. If you think Space Sues would win, you've clearly never played or read anything Halo-related.
This is now E.Y.E. Thread
Marines of Space must leave before I break their legs.
>>332988635
why could they win?
>>332988753
Space Sues are just too weak.
>>332988841
How?
halo doesn't afraid of anything so he wins
>>332988372
>b-but it doesn't make any sense and they w-won't shut up
>nuh uh, my favourite vidya character wouldn't get so easily and comprehensively destroyed by Space Marines, stop it!
I think you're mad that some random 40k fuckboi blew whatever bullshit franchise you stan the fuck out with GOAT imperium shenanigans
>>332985841
I'd honestly say she could slaughter them until she gets tired. Her suit converts matter to shields and ammo (read; pickups) so as long as she keeps killing she can keep going. Their best option would be to hide and try and bleed her slow, but since she's faster than them and can easily locate them using her various visors even that falls short.
>>332988841
give an explanation about the abilities that Spartans have over space marines
>>332980694
I don't know shit about Warhammer 44k. Looks more like the name of a power metal band.
Why is there so much obsession with pitting MC against everyone?
Seriously, I've seen it all now. MC vs Gordon Freeman, MC vs Kratos, MC vs Doomguy, MC vs Marcus Fenix, MC vs Space Marines, MC vs Super Mario. Everything for all kinds.
>>332988113
No, a Space Marine would easily beat a Jedi. Only the insanely powerful would have a chance.
Also, here is the thread
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46004226/#46004226
And the troll's posts
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>>46012217
This is a troll thread btw.
>>332980694
This isnt even a fair fight. Not a single thing in the halo universe would survive in the 40k one.
You obviously dont understand how OP 40k is. The only thing that could possibly beat anything 40k would have to be effectively God.
>>332988635
A bolter would kill a spartan dude.
if you have ever read a 40k book or played a game
you would know.
Spartans wouldnt stand a chance. one marine would kill at least 100
>>332988841
Oh. Right.
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>>332988883
>spoonfeed me like my "epic" /tg/ threads!
No. Go and read a Halo book, maybe even play the games if you have the skill to complete them. Nobody will spoonfeed you here.
>>332989027
>This is a troll thread btw
You don't need to tell me that, and still, I don't think it's right to compare space wizards from star wars to not psykers in 40k.
Could chief win against the man who will make the imperium great again?
>>332989107
>spartans could be space marines
>source: my ass
>>332989107
>I don't know, the post.
How about you read a 40k book?
>>332989107
post master chief vs locke
>>332989030
The Flood would
>>332989224
>>spartans could be space marines
You're retarded.
>>332989281
What is, Tyranids for 500 Alex!
>>332989281
>The Flood would
T y r a n i d s
>>332989238
No, you.
>>332989281
Necrons could beat the flood
>>332989281
Tyranids are literally just the flood x1000000
>>332989216
That is not the Emperor.
>>332989353
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=typo :^)
>>332989107
>lol I don't spoonfeed
When you make a claim, it's on YOU to provide source. They're not asking for the latest plot heavy harem anime of the season, they're asking you to show you're not pulling things out of your ass.
>>332989452
fucking Tyranids ruining gene-stealers I just want to play space hulk.
>>332989624
>Oh no, someone called me out on my retarded headcanon theory!
>Better pretend it was an accidental mistake!
You're doubly retarded.
>>332989648
>fucking Tyranids ruining gene-stealers
Fuck you. They have some really cool models for various generations of genestealer cults now, too.
>>332989107
Its's not spoonfeeding. It's finding facts to backup your arguement's. It's like if your in court defending the witness and the Judge asks for where the witness works at, and you just go "I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. Find it urself fgt.".
>>332989552
The emprah wasn't always a corpse and one day he will rise to fix everything
>>332989470
>I choose denial!
Ok buddy. You are clearly beyond redemption at this point.
>>332989961
Yeah, but he wouldn't be wearing an ugly toupee.
>>332989890
>/v/ discussions are the equivalent of a court case
You 40k fans are funny.
Look, if you don't even know the basics of both sides of the argument here (Space Marines and SPARTANs), why are you even participating in the discussion? Not to mention, any and all information provided here could very well be either false or grossly exaggerated. The only way to know (which you seem keen on) is to pursue the source material yourself.
Go read a book.
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>>332989648
Halo lorefag here that's not an obnoxious fag like him: He's wrong. spartans would lose.
Granted, they'd have a much better shot then you'd think, as canoniically they are way faster and stronger then the halo games would imply (for example, at age 14, even without armor, they could take down powered exoskeletons that were almost mechs on their own with no guns just by punching it and tearing off it's mounted guns, and in armor you see shit liike them punching anti tank missles out of the sky and running 60 mph by tearing their own achilees tendon or sniping people out of aircraft while hanging upsiide down from an airrcraft themselves), but the bottom line is iif you put a good level space marine (i'm not a warhammer guy so I don't know all the tiers) and a spartan in a cage, the spartan is gonna lose unless they also have a smart AI with them, in which case the space marine is fucked because that smart AII is just gonna shut their suit down.
40k also has the advantage in a war situation since the empires in thehalo universe aren't as expansive as n the 40k universe even if the ship tech and sizes and weaponry in the halo universe are a match or exceed 40ks: The covenant's navy while having plenty of ships that match 40k's strongest ones, pobably only has a total size of 10,000-30,000 ships max, their absolute largest fleet is only 800-2000 ships large. The UNSC is even lower in quanitity.
The main thing the halo universe has going for them, the UNSC especially, is that theiir FTL and AI shit is way ahead of the 40k universe.
All of that said the forerunners or ancient humans, let alone the flood or precursors would absolutely demolish even the highest level factions in 40k.
>>332990124
>Go read a book
I'm not a part of this argument, but I wouldn't be caught dead reading a Halo or 40k book, senpai.
>>332986480
But 40k is one of the lowest powered tier universes in history.
The Culture wouldn't even notice the entire universe of 40k combining.
When a ship can move and fire at 240,000 times the speed of light, you can't beat that. In other words, The Culture is one of the top tier. Hell, BOLOS is better than 40k in many regards.
>>332990251
Why the fuck are you posting then?
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>>332989517
You guys all say that but you don't know how broken late game flood are do you?
>>332988427
It's canon that a WW2 tank shell would instantly kill a Spartan. This is in the series lore.
>>332990126
i once saw someone arguing that proper FTL travel is a pretty fucking huge advantage, since guerilla space warfighting is pretty impossible for the imperium to deal with.
also what powers do an AI have to shut down a suit?
it seemed like cortana couldn't mess with spark, for example.
>>332990395
the necrons c'tan could just open a black hole any time and all the flood would say goodbye
>>332990126
Absolutely misinformed bullshit. A Spartan's suit AI won't be able to even interface with a Marine's suit. How are they gonna possibly do that? It's not like power armour is a fucking bluetooth connection.
Besides that, 40k is very obviously a match for anything in the Halo universe. The Flood are a weak version of Tyrannids and the Flood beat the shit out of the ancient Halo universe.
>>332990395
>basing the argument on game mechanics, not on lore
>>332990395
do tell anon, i love lore battles just for learning about crazy overpowered shit.
>>332990395
I do. The Nids are worse. There's a reason why the smart bet for the ultimate winners of the 40k verse are the nids.
>>332990437
And Space Marines don't die to Battlecannon blasts?
>>332986480
When society collapses, I will be sure you make a personal visit to your "house". I will use your skull as a soup bowl.
>>332990395
I remember reading somewhere that the forerunners basic soldiers had like 1000 mechs at their command or something, and they still lost, so I can kinda see that.
>>332990448
>>>332990126
>i once saw someone arguing that proper FTL travel is a pretty fucking huge advantage
It is even in universe. The necrons/Eldar/dark Eldar can literally run circles around the imperium because they can FTL without relying on dangerous warp travel
>>332990448
Proper FTL is actually a massive advantage. Safe travel through space is one of the Empire's weak points.
>>332990608
Every faction bar the Tau have a 'end game' win scenario in 40k. Every one. Every faction is gearing towards it. GW has yet to think of a reason the Tau would win, there is no 'end game' they're going for. Yes, they are the fastest new tech adaptors, but there is no McGuffin they're aiming for. At beast Farsight turns into a Chaos God or whatever the Monster he's suppose to turn into.
>>332990637
No
“Nemiel watched the Astartes race up to the street corner and put their backs to a burnt-out storefront, their bolters held across their chests. One of the two warriors – Brother Cortus, Nemiel thought – slid to the end of the wall and peered around the corner. Nemiel heard the battle cannon fire and watched the corner of the building Coitus was standing at disintegrate in the space of a single heartbeat. The two Astartes disappeared in a blizzard of pulverised stone and fragments of structural steel. A billowing cloud of dust and smoke enveloped the intersection and rolled down the street towards the rest of the squad. The squad took cover on reflex, crouching behind rubble piles or pressing close to a building wall. Nemiel checked his helmet display and saw the status icon for Brother Cortus flash from green to amber. He was wounded, perhaps seriously, but still functional. The walls of the building must have shielded the Astartes from the worst of the blast. Less than a minute later Brother Yung emerged from the smoke cloud, his black armour caked with brown dust. He was half-carrying, half-dragging Brother Cortus. Nemiel rose from cover and jogged forward as Yung set the wounded warrior down next to the shattered stoop of a hab unit. Cortus reached up and fumbled with his helmet. One side of the ceramite helm had been partially crushed, shattering the right ocular and splitting it from crown to nape. Yung lent a hand and helped the wounded Astartes pull the helmet free. ‘Status?’ Nemiel asked. Brother Cortus sent the smashed helmet bouncing across the street.
>Cont
>>332990637
Not WW2, no. The fluff states they can take regular tank shots, it's mentioned in pretty much every edition. Just because they CAN die to them in the game is irrelevant. AP2 anything will kill a Space Marine, unless it's a meme strength, then the Toughness save can block it. Or they have a ++/+++/FnP.
Fuck sake, 40k is really heading towards WHFB tier levels of rules.
>>332990126 here:
I know my grammar was shit in that post but ii'm having a migraine so fuck you
Also, for people not familiar with halo ships and such, this is a great resource for the sizes of ships, megastructures, vehicles, races, characters, and weapons in halo lore: http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_scalecomparison/1280h.html
Lastly, use halopedia as your halo wiki, not the wikia site
>>332990251
see
>>332990337
Also the halo books are great, you are missing out
>>332990448
Smart AI's in halo are insanely OP. Cortana especially was designed to infiltrate alien systems. She couldn't get iinto spark because the foreunners are ridiculously OP as are their AI.
>>332990395
Thanks for pointing those posts out for me
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>>332990543
I suggest you read
http://www.halopedia.org/Key_Mind
http://www.halopedia.org/Star_road
http://www.halopedia.org/Neural_physics
And go from there, the flood once they get control of a sizable amount of star systems essentially turn into reality warping eldritch elder gods. They can literally just throw stars as projectile weapons and tear slices across spacetime. The precusors, which the flood are reincarnations of, have lived through multiple big bangs and big crunches. The grravemind/key mind collective would fucking corrupt the god emperor's psyche instantly via logic plague
Late game flood/precusors are some of the most OP fictional races period, let alone modern scifi universes.
>>332990395
Tyranids have hive fleets that are half the size of galaxies
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>>332989517
The fact the tyranids still exist in the WH40 universe pretty much proves the Flood would proliferate just fine.
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>>332990779
i'm oddly fond of this strange weakness of the empire.
it's a colossus which's legs collapsed under its own weight. it's easy to run circles around it, however its upper body strength is just so fucking massive that you don't want to get in that range.
also it's crying because it's in a place it doesn't want to be in.
>>332988669
IT'S THE INQUISITION
>>332990993
>Just because they CAN die to them [...] is irrelevant
Except it's 100% relevant to the comparison at hand. They can die to Battlecannon blasts, which are 120mm tank blasts - 120mm being one of the calibres used in WW2.
Who would win?I-I am conflicted...
>>332990981
The skin on the right side of his face had been deeply scored by the impact, peeling away the flesh down to the bone in some places. His right eye was a bloody ruin, but the wound was clotting quickly thanks to Cortus’s enhanced healing ability. ‘One battle tank and four APCs, three hundred metres south,’ he said, his voice rough with pain. ‘Approximately a platoon of infantry in hasty defensive positions, maybe more.’ ‘I was talking about your head, brother.’ Cortus glanced dazedly at the Redemptor, blinking his one good eye. ‘Oh, that,’ he said dismissively. ‘It’s nothing. Did anyone see what happened to my bolter?’”
>>332990303
But everything loses to the Culture.
>>332991013
see
>>332991007
The flood have infected multiple universes and have lived through multiple beginnings and ends of them, and can move galaxies and warp reality
>>332990126
I agree, partially. It depends on the Spartan and how much preparation they have. Canon wise Hunters are probably stronger or equal to a space marine and Spartans have been known to fight them in hand to hand and win. The problem with this comparison of which space jarhead would win is difficult though, as Spartans are more shock troopers and special ops, while space marines can range from regular infantry to guys so powerful that 1v10000 is just a fair fight to them.
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>>332990608
Final tier flood have access to precursor technology which is completely indestructable to anything besides Halo rings. They have planets called key minds that are essentially giant precursor AI's with processing powers that dwarf most of Forerunner AIs and everything else They are so numerous that they fucked with space time and bent space time fucking with slipspace. They used their star roads to smash suns into forerunner fleets. When the universe came into being the precursors had already been there for several billions of years. Yeah
Tyranids wouldn't stand a chance sorry. Also refer to other halo lore dude>>332991007
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>>332990303
Precusors would kick the shit out of the culture, even the forerunners would be a match in many regard
>>332991168
40k tank shells are larger than ww2 tank shells
>>332990126
this is how to argue halo plebs
>>332991007
>effectively enabled the Flood the power of manipulating reality to an extent through their sheer power of thought
haha oh man FLOOD VS ORKZ 'ERE WE GO!
>>332991391
Battlecannon shells are 120mm. Read a Codex or any book dealing with mech IG.
>>332991168
One of the calibres. The difference is, they regularly don't. Spartans get instantly killed.
The game says they can die, the fluff says they don't. The game is about balance. The fluff isn't. So, no, a regular 54mm, the rough average of WW2, they won't.
>>332988427
If you think Spartans could beat space marines you don't know what space marines really are
Space marines were made from the genes of the primarchs who were made from the genes of the emperor, so space marines are off shoots of the emperor himself
>>332990608
>nids
>winning
>when orks exist
I choose to believe the dumbass reality bending race that multiplies at a stupid fucking rate will win.
>>332991359
Unlikely. The Culture would have destroyed any ships before the Precursors saw them.
>>332991007
>the flood
It's not even known how vast the Tyranids are. In fact it's theorized that the only thing you ever see of them is a Vanguard. While the Flood is certainly formidable in the Halo universe, in the 40k universe they would just be 'another bug hunt'.
>the navy
I appreciate your citations, but even with all the combined might of all the races in all of the Halo universe, if the same were to be said with 40k it would be over instantly. Phalanx aside, the absolute insane amount of fire power these races have would be incomprehensible as a combined might. The very universe would collapse.
>>332991615
Yeah, sure, I only read 60+ 40k novels, so obviously I wouldn't know a thing about Space Marines. I mean, come on, they hardly ever appear in 40k fiction at all! They're like this huge enigma of the setting. I wish we knew more about the Space Marines, man.
>>332991501
i'm actually betting it all on orkz for this one.
>>332991261
Just like how war in heaven necrons, prefall eldar, and DAOT humans would kick the shit out of precursors and forerunners.
>>332991760
I'm sure you did buddy.
>>332991780
didn't a standard DAOT have a gun that hit an enemy that originally dodged, but the ship just pulled it through spacetime so it got hit?
Orks inevitably beat everyone, it's time to stop.
The time will come when even the Tyranids fall before the Orks.
The Orks would fuck the Flood's and Precursors' shit up.
How far would Madara go in the universe ofyour mom's anus with no condom?
>>332991929
Thanks for the vote of confidence, pal!
>>332991713
>While the Flood is certainly formidable in the Halo universe, in the 40k universe they would just be 'another bug hunt'.
You didn't read the links did you
A high level flood infestation or the precusors pre-turning into the flood would wreck 40k
we are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
>Spartans
Who /odst/ here?
How many Orcs can one space marine kill?
How many Orcs can Master Chief kill?
>inb4 Spartan Locke broke his visor
>mass a large enough force orks
>reality warping powers materialize mork and gork
>dakka consumes the universe
>>332992169
Except the Flood are dead and so are the Precursors
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>>332992108
Where is the rebuttal? All you people have said is "no warhammer wins because it is OP they have OP stuff". I have stated that precursors are basically gods and are timeless. They will continue to be when the universe dies and is reborn. I haven't seen anything out of 40k yet that beats eldritch gods that are nigh unkillable and have been around literally forever. This isn't even an argument..
>>332992169
Do you think logic will get to them man? Seems like they just ignore everything and just continue to spout "warhammer is better because it is OP!".
>>332992218
Here have this.
>>332982554
Adeptus Astartes = Superhuman guardians of the Imperium = Imperial Guard
Imperial Guard = Regular dudes with guns in space = Space Marines.
>>332992169
>have total control over the fabric of realty
but the sources provided state:
>effectively enabled the Flood the power of manipulating reality to an extent through their sheer power of thought
>to an extent
>>332992218
Underrated
>>332987267it still is, that's what makes it so brilliant
>>332992390
i counter with orkz.
fighting the flood would definitely wake gork and mork and by that time it's just goodbye to everything that can fight.
>>332991760
>>332992118
You know, the condescending act only works if we know at least a little about your position or have made an argument to back up, right now you're just a passive aggressive tmblrite.
>>332992169
Kinda like old ones in 40k? The same people who built a sewer system in HELL?
>>332992218
Feet first into hell
>>332986480
>Warhammer 40K is for obnoxious mouthbreathing retards
>but Halo isn't
>>332992108
They couldn't do it with a Titan Sized Warboss in 32M, what makes you think Margaret Thatcher can?
>>332992534
Or perhaps you're projecting. But you hadn't thought of that, huh?
>>332992606
He isn't wrong in that 40k has mouth breathers. But ALL fans of a thing have those.
Of course, somebody will post the "le stop lowering us to your level meme"
>>332992390
Read into Orks, they would wipe the fucking floor with tyranids.
>>332992169
>we are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
Oh look, Old Ones, beings who fit that exact description in 40k, got fucking destroyed by the very beings in 40k.
>>332992537
In lore weren't the C'tan reality warping star gods that the Eldar BTFO? I'd argue that the C'tan are as strong as anything in the Halo universe and they already got shit on.
>>332992697
I'm honestly wondering if you know what that words means, like seriously, how is any of that projecting, either way.
Shouldn't you just make an argument rather than try to win /v/points?
>>332980694
space marines aren't that tall
>>332992823
is that Terminator armor?
>>332992878
>/v/points
You've been here too long.
>>332992169
>We are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
Then where are they
Seems like a good time to post this
>>332992941
A variation of it, yes.
>>332992960
Ok?
>>332992797
>implying the Old Ones died
My head canon is the Nids are their cleaner race to undo their fault in creating the Warp.
>>332993067
>lower right
i only need david bowie, nobody can stop him
>>332993067
Lucifer is literally all you needed.
A Space Marine would literally be able to hear Master Chief's muscles contracting from over a kilometer away.
This fight is a joke, and if you want to see just how much of a joke it is, search for it on Google.
>>332993067
What level Superman? What level Flash? What level Hulk?
If I had a choice, Emperor and Superman Prime. Or "less than an attosecond" flash, but only if he can do that meme time warp shit. Emperor blinks the others out of existence.
>>332992390
>guide a WAAAAAAAAAAGH! toward the Flood
>problem solved
>>332989216
those fucking knee pads are killing me
>>332986480
Heretic
>>332993296
Horus is Lucifer in 40k (well 30k) but Emperor still fucked him up. Emperor is God. Sanguinius is Jesus.
>>332992606
the haloverse is on the complete other end of spectrum
everybody outside of the forerunners are complete jokes
>>332993219
Aren't the Tyranids supposedly running from something outside of the galaxy?
>tfw the scariest motherfuckers are scared of some other motherfuckers
>>332993219
So the Old Ones have just been chilling in another Galaxy?
My headcanon is the Tyranids are the result of a "good" ending for a galaxy.
Total conversion to a singular biological race that can adapt to anything.
>>332993067
Superman and the Emperor. No doubt. Lucifer is just another Chaos god that needs to be purged. Hulk isn't the strongest there is. Flash isn't the fastest there is. Sentry and Thor will get their shit smacked by Supes. And literally who will continue being a literal who.
>>332993067
Lucifer and the fucking Emps beat the shit out of everyone else, who cares.
Space Marines would kill the Spartans. However as someone said a really high level Flood infestation or the Precursors in Halo are extremely high level. They could kill most things in 40K as they've lived through multiple big bangs and Universes. Insanely OP.
War in Heaven-Era Necrons > everything save for the Xelee
Ok after further inspection Flood vs Eldrazi seems like a good match now.
>>332993067
I choose God and the Devil. Sups comes in a very close third.
..is that fucking Naruto or some shit?
>>332986480
You raise a fair point, but let me ask you this.Is there a vidya character that can beat Saitama?
>>332992390
Nigger, do you know how stupid Orkz are.
The Old Ones in wh40k were essentialy Percursors, and they died to fucking Orkz and shit. The only thing stopping the Orz from becoming a absolute infinite legion who can manipulate matter, space and time is the infighting they have, otherwise, they would literally just multiply forever like the absolute bioweapon they are and manipulate everything via the Waagh field.
Your maguffin protected shit tyranids have nothing on Orkz.
>>332993336
i think that's worldbreaker hulk, so pretty strong.
that's not superman prime tho, but you do have the Sentry who's pretty similar.
>>332993483
No. It was hinted at once and then never mentioned again. It's a meme at this point, like "Orks don't get sick because Gork and Mork curbstomped Nurgle after they saw Nurglite Orks". Or "Ork weapon works because they think they do". When in fact it's "Ork weapons work BETTER because they think they do".
>>332993528
It's implied, when the Lizardmen appeared in WHFB, that the Old Ones were trying to start again. Only to realise that Chaos exists in ever dimension, in every existence. Oh and the Orcs in WHFB were from the spaceships of the Old Ones, carried by spores. In essence, they had Ork spores on them, travelled to a new dimension, then brought them with them.
Age of Sigmar is essentially the survivors of WHFB going "Okay, Chaos is going to exist no matter what we do, so our best hope is to kill it in our universe"
>>332993538
If it's Flash "faster than an attosecond" then yes he is. Flash is so fast in some comics, he arrives in a place before he's left.
>>332993067
Emperor and Sentry. I don't know much about the Sentry, but isn't he basically Marvel's attempt at getting a character with a higher power level that Superman?
>>332990818
That's not really true anymore. In the same way the Humans have to hold out for a Psyker horizon to win a bunch of Eldar have foreseen if the Tau last long enough to reach a certain tech threshold they'll go full Golden Age of Humanity tier and be able to survive all the incoming shit.
But GW has a bunch of Eldar being Tauboos for some reason. Fucking Eldrad thinks they're the hope of the universe or some shit
>>332993067
I only needMadara Uchiha
>>332988948
WHAT IF SHE'S FIGHTING ORKZ THEN?!?!
>>332993935
Okay, I wasn't sure if it was just a picture for people to have an idea who it was and I got to choose.
Emperor would just remove the others from existence. So I guess Sentry unless Flash can time warp me other places (also if I have a resistant costume/clothing so he can run with me in his manly arms :3)
>>332993994
yeah, drawback is that he's a druggie.
but emps healing light on him should make everything fine.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Slaughtersong
>>332993963
>"Ork weapons work BETTER because they think they do"
But wasn't that a retcon?
I remember orks being able to use pretty much anything for dakka if they believed it. To the point where if any other race tried to use ork tech or weapons it would just fall apart.
>>332993067
Emperor and Lucifer
Hell Lucifer alone would shit on all of the others
>>332993926
>they died to orks and shit
But that's wrong. They made the orks and the eldar to fight the C'tan, star eating gods prodded into doing something by the necrotyr, and the shiny new necron.
It was the C'tan, who were capable of destroying entire star systems relatively easily, and necrons, armed with what is still the most advanced tech in the setting and immortality, who finally managed to kill the old ones.
>>332993067
FLASH AND LUCIFER
BUT COMIC LUCIFER NOT THAT CSI GUY IN THE TV
>>332993067
Jackie Chan and Jackie Chan
>>332993926
No they didn't. The Orks were the bioweapon of the Old Ones which got out of control when the Old Ones fled. The reason the Old Ones died was they pissed off the Necrontyr, who in turn bargained with C'tan. Then a huge war started, a war the Old Ones were winning. Then the Necrontyr got their new bodies and pushed back, but barely any change happened. Just when shit looked like it was over, the Enslavers appeared and started fucking over the Old Ones in a way the C'tan and Necrontyr couldn't.
So the Old Ones eventually all died or fled. The most supported evidence is they escaped to the WHFB setting.
How would guys from E.Y.E fare against a Spees Muhreen?
>>332993420
Lucifer is literally the second most powerful being in existence, even when he had zero powers people and Gods would shit their pants around him
>>332993926
Cite your source buddy. I'm tired of this "It's OP and shieeet!". The old ones are wannabe Precursors, they were nowhere near as powerful. Arguing with warhammer dudes is literally them crying out "Warhammer is OP and way more broken and shit" Without actually providing any sources and ignoring all evidence on the other hand. Face it Warhammer bros Precursors would curb stomp all of your gods, orkz, nids, old ones, demons, and devils. Just look at the facts.
>>332994337
>>332994395
Thank you for being actual lore dudes and pointing out discrepancies.
Does anyone know a character that could beat Commander Farsight?
and I'm not just talking about Commander Farsight, I'm talking about Shas'O Vior'la Shovah Kais Mont'yr of the Farsight Enclave's The Eight, the proclaimed Protege of Puretide, Renounced Traitor of the Greater Good, and Bane of the Greenskins, who wields the Dawn Blade, a sword folded 1000 times with chronophagic alloys that allows it to steal the lifetime of its kills, piloting a customized Red XV8 Crisis Suit equipped with a Hard-wired Target Lock, a Plasma Rifle and a Shield Generator.
>implying Halofags have a chance
Standard weapon for Halo
>The MA5D ICWS is a gas-operated, magazine-fed, automatic assault rifle designed to execute close-quarters combat with lethal efficiency, regardless of hostile counter-op, environmental conditions, or duration of use in the field. The MA5D fires the 7.62 NATO round. Like previous incarnations, the MA5D also contains a built-in ammo counter and compass.
Standard weapon for Space Marines
>The Bolter is a large .75 calibre assault weapon. Whereas conventional solid slugs utilise a propellant charge contained in a casing that forces the bullet down the barrel upon ignition, in contrast, a bolt is self-propelled; it features its own integrated solid fuel propellant that propels the bolt at high speeds, essentially acting like a miniature rocket. Standard Bolter ammunition utilizes a mass-reactive fuze, designed to penetrate the target before detonating within, maximizing damage to the target and leaving little chance for survival.
>>332994172
>kay, I wasn't sure if it was just a picture for people to have an idea who it was and I got to choose.
it's result number 10 or something when googling world breaker hulk, the picture doesn't show up when just googling the hulk, so i assume it's intentional.
also FTL piggyback rides was not part of my plan before but now i think i need it.
>>332991713
>It's not even known how vast the Tyranids are
13 galaxies worth of conquest. This is explicitly stated.
>>332994250
They used to be able to just use a stick and if they believed it shot bullet, it would. Just magically making a stick shoot bullets out of air.
Now, it has to have the shape, trigger and the bullets to actually shoot bullets, no more ridiculous tier shit. In the hands of others, it either doesn't work, barely works and jams a lot or just explodes.
Fuck that.
Touhou vs. 40k
Discuss that.
>>332993067
I would rather trust in Obito to save me against any of these than Madara.
At least he can turtle inside his pocket dimension. Madara can't.
>>332994250
Nope. It's been mentioned in a book as early as last month. Essentially an Ad Mech Biologos opens up an Ork brain and finds that the part of the brain for invention is bigger and there is some part of the brain he isn't sure what is for. But theorizes that it's part of a psychic node. In essence. If you power an Ork weapon in your own hand, it will break. It isn't suppose to work. It defies logic. If you put it in an Ork hand and feed electricity through them, then the weapon will work beyond all reason.
There is a sort of biological imprint and psychic field which keeps their shit from falling apart.
>>332994479
Sheev. The answer is always Sheev
>>332994479
Yeah a SPARTAN!
>>332994479
Abaddon or Kharn would probably slap his shit around.
>>332994476
I shouldn't have to provide the fucking source when google is right fucking there you god damn dickhead, there is an absolutely stupid amount of stuff to read about 40k, i am not going to link every single piece of it just to prove something i and pretty much everybody else already know is right.
>>332982365
none of them should be marines because none of them are boated around by the imperial navy
space =/= ocean
pic related marines should be inside of them
because they're boats
>>332994453
The Emperor would kill Lucifer if you picked him, regardless. The Emperor could defend you from anybody but Power Man.
>>332994425
They are powerfull but nowhere near Speesh Muhreens.
>>332994502
7.62 REAL FUKKEN NATO STRONK
>>332993067
Lucifer > The Emperor > The Sentry > The Flash > Superman > The Hulk > Thor > Madara Uchiha
>>332994685
Well either way, orks are the absolute best race, no one can deny this.
>>332994939
nigger he's immortal
>>332994892
Heresy?
>>332994518
Yeah. Did it ever explain how Flash's eyes don't die when he's running? There is only so much you can 'protect'.
>>332994561
2HU wins because magic and Gods and shit.
>>332994479
Shadowsun. She has the most plot armour in the setting.
>>332994892
Not this shit again. Every time I see that this guy wasted his time on this shit, it hurts that little bit more. Especially when he can draw such awesome shit.
Goddamn these threads everytime manage to make my lorehead cringe when people yell fan theores and just blatant wrong info as a truth
>LE PAPA NURGE ISA GOOD GUY AND SLAANESH IS ALL ABOUT SEXX XDDD
>>332994479
I preferred Farsight when he was just a good commander with a different outlook and a sword
>>332995054
>he did the spin at 0:08
So fucking based
>>332994337
>>332994395
Welp, sorry I got shit wrong, not my intention to misinform.
>>332994476
Hey, I admit being wrong and proven it was, but if you legitimately think that your shit tyranids woudl defeat a endless hoard of time and space altering bioweaponized spores, a endless hoard of immortal Daemons, 4 of the most powerful manifestations of human emotion who have the ability to completely remove anything from existence on a whim, a literal God,a race of nigh indestructible robots with tech so advanced their most basic guns just strip away your molecular composition layer by layer and have a fuckton of time-space altering gods, or hell, if you think your wannabe Tyranids could even outlast the real tyranids in a real fight, then Im sorry pal, but you are just deluded as fuck.
Halo is a good franchise, fun as hell, but WH40k was made for this sort of ridiculous.
>>332995054
I hate this part, simply because of how easily/quickly the two brothers fell apart. Seemingly without anything fucking special from Sheev. It just turned into
>lol, you're actually shit at blade combat, gg
>>332995396
Where in the name of the emperor did people spout them as if they were truth?
Because all i have seen are jokes, which is what they are.
>>332995356
>2HU wins because magic and Gods and shit.
But what happens when I deploy a faction specifically designed to fight Gods and magic?
>>332991261
>Final tier flood have access to precursor technology which is completely indestructable to anything besides Halo rings.
Then why did the precursors lose against the flood?
>>332995356
he has the speed force
all the physics related problems of going sanic fast is negated by it
Nigga going so fast then suddenly picks up a civilian to save him from a falling building and the civilian isn't ripped apart by his sanic speed? Speed Force
Nigga going sanic fast while carrying a civilian but none of them gets burnt by their speed+air friction? Speed Force
>>332989030
Forerunner would solo 40k, kiddo
>>332995356
How the fuck does touhou win.
Explain to me this franchise and their power levels.
>>332995054
How did they manage to make the Clone Wars cartoon better than any other Clone Wars shit?
Original trilogy>Prequels
Clone Wars fluff>OT fluff
>>332994982
Once again. Lucifer was Horus in the story. He was beaten by the Emperor. Emperor is literally God. He was killing the Chaos Gods on his own.
It's Emperor > Lucifer.
>>332995204
So is the Emperor and the Emperor still remove somebody from existence. Horus never existed. Everything. His body, mind and soul, was removed. Not just from the warp or material realm, but from existence. His soul was removed from literal Hell.
>>332995028
They're fun. Need more screen time in Beast Arises.
>>332988172
wow
>>332995691
How do they fuck if they are all such different shapes and body heights.
>>332995550
You get gapped out, your armor rusts, you go crazy, you meet terrible misfortune.
I mean, there's a lot of ways.
>>332995691
>they are huge
So they have huge guts?
>>332990649
Probably shouldn't say things like this on 4chan anon.
>>332995793
you can't warp away God's strongest angel
and Abrahamic God=/=Emperor
>>332994889
Literally no rebuttal, fucks up his own lore, gets angry about being called on his bullshit, and plethora of other reasons. Jesus man if you are going to argue for your side at least make it look convincing and good. Like do you even know how to argue and not shit fling? So far nobody has provided actual evidence to how warhammer 40k would beat the Precursors. Instead I got shit flinging.
>>332995484
Everything you have said has been: done by the precursors, multiply times, and better. Yeah I think my "wannabe Tyranids" would do better than the actual Tyranids of your stupidly powerful universe. You're just salty that Halo of all universes has something that would curbstomp all of warhammer in one go.
>>332995608
Were you paying attention. The Flood are the Precursors.
>>332995819
Each individual is genetically engineered to be perfect in their roles
>>332995691
Was the ancient Halo universe made of anime?
>>332995691
No. They struggled to fight the flood. The only thing from the Halo Universe that can smack the shit out of 40k are the Precursors.
>>332995819
343's lore is very deep! I don't think you will ever understand!
>>332992359
I know I'm late, but the Flood in our Galaxy are gone because of a Halo detonation, which they survived once before. And the precursors ascended and left the mantle to humanity.
>>332996050
Are any of them genetically engineered to be perfect for sex?
>I like scat
>>332994114
Hot plasma searing through flesh? Samus doesn't break a sweat.
>>332995691
Forerunners are basically culture tier, 40k would indeed get fucked hard.
>>332995793
Vertigo/DC has their own take on God and your God Emperor doesn't apply to that
Do you even Adeptus Custodes you fucking heretics.
>>332990126
>Halo lorefag here
>mfw someone would actually want to refer to himself as this
>>332996189
yeah but they replenish their numbers as they fight and die, just like Samus recharges her shit with the suit as she kills
>>332996119
>No. They struggled to fight the flood.
Yeah. So if the forerunner couldn't beat them without destroying all sentient life instantly, what fucking hope would 40k have?
>>332996147
So they're shit, failed and then gave up because they're so shit?
>>332995994
>Were you paying attention. The Flood are the Precursors.
Alrightie then why didn't they dominate the galaxy forever then?
>>332996307
AWAKEN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
>>332991216
The Culture isn't the most powerful faction in their own series.
>>332995793
>Once again. Lucifer was Horus in the story
Lucifer is literally the second most powerful being in existence second only to the literally omnipotent, creator of all things.
The Emperor and Horus are an euphemism for God and Lucifer, whereas the character in question is the literal and original subject.
>>332995793
Did you do your research or are you austitically sprouting off nonsense while clinging to your own canon as a safety blanket?
Lucifer in DW can literally just clap his hands and the souls of every human in the universe and throughout histroy will unravel in an instant. Even the mere thousand shamans that make up your Emperor
>>332996050
That's what the Adeptus Custodes are for too.
>>332992169
>we are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
What. Since when did Halo become Coldsteel the FPS? What is this fanfic bullshit?
>>332996395
Wtf are you talking about? Why are 40cucks so hostile?
>>332996250
I hate how chump-y they have been portrayed in some of the books.
I think it was in A Thousand Sons they weren't any better than regular marines. Same for Prospero Burns, but it's basically the same thing.
>>332996189
E.Y.E. would win
>Beta level psykers by 40k terms
>augmented up the ass
>extremely powerful weapons at their disposal
>can hack shit
>>332996385
If they're so amazing how did the Flood take hold in the first place? How did a species that can be beaten by Chief even manage to be a threat to them? If they're so amazing how is their solution to the problem one that didn't even work?
>>332995994
Yknow what.
I was half done typing some shit out, but you are just like me, we both believe we are right, you are far too deluded by your maguffin protected shit tyranids and its 4:31 AM, so ill just say this:
The Waaagh field makes it so whatever the fuck the Orkz believe, so far as it would be possible, it will be possible. If they believe they can kill something, so long as they stay within the ork field, whatever the fuck it is they want to kill and believe can die, can die.
This means even the most unkillable fuck is mortal even the most maggufin protected asswipe out there is removed of plot armor. And the Orzs, when fully united in a fullblown scale Waaagh would be so numerous, after decades, they would reach atleat the duovigintillion mark.
Just saying. Gnight or whatever, ya deluded Halo fan.
>>332995994
>Everything you have said has been: done by the precursors, multiply times, and better
Why have you resorted to lying?
Oh wait, this is bait, probably should have realized this earlier.
>>332993219
Old Ones didn't create the warp.
>>332996641
Because they're really not as great as you try to make them out to be. You keep clinging to the idea that they were the best thing ever but they fucking lost. Their society crumbled then they peaced out cause they failed so hard.
People saying the forerunners wouldn't run a rape train on warhammer are literally retarded. all they would even need is one halo ring, which they could slipspace jump to where needed and kill every fucker within 1/7 of the galaxy.
>>332993926
>The Old Ones in wh40k were essentialy Percursors, and they died to fucking Orkz and shit
Pretty sure the Old Ones died to the Enslavers.
>>332991261
>Spartans are shock troopers and special ops and space marines are regular infantry
STEEL REHN
>>332996302
Don't be rude, Touou.
>>332996743
No, but they did care for it as though it were a garden or some shit.
At least, until their war with the Necrotyr turned it into literally hell.
>>332995793
You're like some weeb faggot going "my anime loli waifu killed gods! your character doesn't matter he's not even a god lol"
Seriously this shit is annoying
>>332996834
You keep saying this "you" shit like I'm that guy. I just corrected your facts.
>>332996847
Halo rings are fucking small time buddy.
>This machine consists of a web of holograms and Necrodermis with the various tiny, floating, glowing lights representing a star in the galaxy. Each of these are recorded in an intricate matrix record that contains the locations of every star in the cosmos
>An act that snuffs out any of these lights leads to its physical counterpart undergoing a supernova millennia before its time that destroys all the nearby worlds that circle it
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Celestial_Orrery
>>332996847
The halo rings were the last ditch effort to control the flood. They would never use those rings to kill some Spess Mahreens
>>332996706
Because their spread rate is ridiculously fast and they hijack all technology and knowledge then use it. The forerunners own super-tech was used against them, and by the time they started blowing up solar systems that were infected the flood were spreading in stolen ships like a tsunami.
>>332995714
Series of mythical beings like gods and spirits which all the characters have vaguely worded powers.
One of the strongest is someone who can manipulate boundaries (like the border between life and death, or just teleport shit via portals). Other abilities people have include floating out of reality to become completely invincible, instantly killing someone with a thought, or blowing up anything by closing her hands.
It's hard to judge just how powerful some 2hus actually are though, since the fighting is based on a rule that lets anyone fight equally so they won't kill each other.
>>332997070
Yeah, that Orrery is the possibly the most bullshit thing introduced to 40k. Not sure what they were thinking.
Like the Necrons are fucking advanced, but that thing has the potential to create a chain reaction that destroys existence if they aren't careful.
>>332996908
HAULDIN OUT IN DEEP SPEHSS
>>332995714
Remember those silly animes where they give the Protagonist some useless power like altering the Properties of a Banana and used it to beat God?
Now you apply the same concept to actual powers like "Fly away from anything" to "Fly away from reality" x every power in the Cast and you get an entire cast of incredibly broken characters. Probably the most Hax is Yukari who has the ability to manipulate any boundries. In the best case scenario, she's just No-sell the Crossover and close the boundary between the 2 universe. In the worst case scenario, she'll just tilt the boundry between life and death in death's favor and everything falls dead instantly.
>>332995793
Here's a bit of Vertigo lore.
God imbued Michael with the demiguric power which allowed him to create matter out of nothing, such was his task in creating the entire universe, Lucifer's power and task was to shape, erase, and manipulate the matter into existence as we know it.
So down to brass tacks, Lucifer can take existing matter and do anything he pleases to it. Everyone on that list is nothing compared to the Morningstar
>>332997070
Oh wow it's literally nothing
Galactic extinction while being safe in dyson spheres motherfucker, and they don't even need to destroy every planet to do it.
>>332996651
I'm pretty sure the Companions, the last line of defense for the Emperor, are not a bunch of chumps. Although if you were to compare a battle hardened unit to a unit that has stood guard you could argue experience trumps.
>>332997136
They would have if the prometheans were still in charge instead of the builders
>>332996456
Something, something, wanted to try something new. Passed down mantle. They probably switch off dominating the "universe" every other big bang.
>>332996721
Good night and sweet dreams you salty warhammer fan.
>>332996729
I haven't lied, the precursors are broken even compared to warhammer 40k. It's just for once you spouting how broken your universe is doesn't matter because precursors don't give a flying fuck. Because in this dick waving competition precursors have dicks bigger and more numerous than 80 of your universes.
>>332997070
Except for the fact that this crap doesn't hit the very being of the universe like the rings do. Halo rings are powerful enough to hit the foundation of the universe itself, including Precursor tech which last time I checked doesn't give a fuck how many super novas you blow up in its face.
>>332997217
Sounds like they're on par with Greater daemons in the Warp or a Daemon world.
Kirby beats you all
>>332995793
>Emperor is literally God
Just because something mirrors biblical stories doesn't mean he is literally God. He was just a ridics powerful psyker created as the reincarnation of hundreds of crazy druids.
>>332997449
Nothing in 40k could stop star roads. NOTHING
>>332982828
This whole thread is just shitposting, but I honestly wonder about people who say shit like this. The average Astartes is fucking miles beyond a Spartan; so far that it's not even a fair competition. These threads originally started to make fun of millennial who thought Chief was worth a shit and here we are more than a decade later with people still taking the bait.
>>332994950
Depends who we're talking about. A regular secreta agent would get rekt but grandmasters with gate powers are nearly alpha plus psykers.
Triangular and Hypnotic Gates are guaranteed instakills, and Substitution Gate make the user untouchable.
Spartan I? Space Marine Decisive Victory
Spartan II? Spartan Victory
Spartan III? Space Marine Victory
Spartan IV? Space Marine Decisive Victory
Any member of Blue Team? Spartan Decisive Victory
>>332992117
>Anyone or anything being able to survive in that shithole
>>332997449
>Chaos gods just think the precursors out of existence
>C'tan blow them the fuck out in every possible way
>Orks bend reality and make their dakka be able to destroy precursor tech
>B-BUT P-PRECURSORS OP
They're really not, anyway i am tired or replying to bait, so see you in the next thread i guess just like the previous 10.
>>332986089
Imperial guard are more like infantry. Think army.
Adeptus Astartes are special operations super marines.
>>332997668
Jesus, a whole frickin Decade? I'm not sure which to be more impressed at, Halo-verse being fucked up so badly by incompetence or Warhammer still slowly churning out games.
>>332996087
Yes, 343 is filled with the same kind of faggots in these threads that have the unyielding need to one-up each other with power-level bullshit in their dumb space fiction.
>>332985542
Yes but they don't work
>>332995550
Well, GK's have never fought Gods. At worse they've fought Daemon Primarchs and Exalted Greater Daemons.
But it all depends on if their shit works on 2HU and vice a versa.
>>332995682
Okay, so the Speed Force protects him from EVERYTHING? I remember in that comic where Batman becomes a Priest, Flash tries to rescue him, but is killed by the baddie removing the power of his resistant clothing and he burns up...
Or maybe he removed his Speed Force. I forget. So I can be picked up and travel back in time with Flash?
>>332995714
They're Gods and shit. There is hundreds of them.
>>332995691
No, no it wouldn't. It would solo some of the factions, but not all. Unless the Forerunners can live in Black Holes and literal Hell, whilst killing literal Gods.
>>332997872
No.
>>332997979
lol dumb 40kuck
>>332986480
Get a load at this edgelord
>>332997586
See he is crazy powerful but he didn't use his psyker powers because of the dangers of the Warp, I mean psykers on prospero could cure cancer like it was a bandaid patch or even less.
He just didn't want himself to be overtaken by a daemon like a fool and practiced it.
Once the chaos gods were completely starved and destroyed he could probably bask in his full power which might be up there with Eldar Gods or Above Chaos Gods which necessarily wouldn't be full omnipotence or anything like that.
I'd say to a 40k extent where he can still be defeated by other crazy strong people.
>>332997979
His argument is "lol precursor OP" Every time you bring up they got btfo a million years ago, "NO DYUDE THEY WANTED TO GET FUCKED UP". Fucking Halo faggots.
>>332998015
If it's in the material realm, it's getting fucked by weaponized slipspace. Chaos can sit and sulk when everyone is fucking dead and the forerunners perfect the pylons and shut away the warp.
>>332997449
When the very wikis you posted contradict what you have said throughout this thread, yes i do believe you are lying.
>>332997441
>bringing fanfiction to the table
WELL, NOW ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
>>332987596
Planet sized ships? I don't know what you're talking about.
The Death Star/ star killer base are Star Wars friend. Not 40K.
>>332998180
they would wreck 40k stupid :)
>>332997248
How do Commissars have bolt pistols?
Discuss
>>332988172
No one really seems upset other than you.
>>332998363
Doom guy hands down
>>332998363
If thats the real doomguy the Space marine is dead. No questions asked.
>>332998363
Doomguy.
>>332998363
While Ultrasmurfs are stupid op, Doomguy is on a whole other level
>>332998015
Would Deny the Witch work on 2HUs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulVI9OHseMA
>>332998358
Regular humans and Sororitas use scaled down versions
>Boltguns usable by mere "mortals" come in various patterns, though they still follow the same basic design philosophy. Despite the fact that they pale in comparison to their larger cousins, their power is still such that they can easily cut a man in two. Boltguns meant for the Imperial Guard are supplied by the Departmento Munitorum
>>332995979
Horus was buffed fully by all four Chaos Gods. He was still removed from existence. Soul destroyed. He didn't become a fleshlight for Chaos. Read the books.
Horus is an Angel who fell. Primarchs are Angels. Sanguinius is Jesus. Also, the Emperor was Jesus, Muhmmad, Abraham and loads of other prophets and famous people. So, yes.
>>332996226
I'm not denying that. Emperor was more powerful than a Chaos Powered Horus. Who is an analogy for Lucifer. GW is incredibly lazy.
>>332996543
But in this setting, everything you think is "the devil" or "God" is literally either Chaos or Emperor. Emperor is God. That's it. Sanguinius is Jesus. The whole point of the Emperor was to be a literal replacement of God, but without pissing off X or Y. As I said above, God appeared as Jesus, Muhammad and St George. He was everybody of any note or worth.
>>332996551
As I said above, Horus is Lucifer in 40k. Emperor is God. Sanguinius is Jesus. They are the anaologies without pissing anybody off. The Emperor could do exactly what Lucifer did in DW. He doesn't. Just like Chaos could do it, but doesn't. They have fun fucking with people.
>>332996743
>>332996930
Old Ones caused the Warp to become turbulent. They caused Chaos Gods to exist. Ignoring the time bullshit excuse. If the Old Ones didn't do the War in Heaven, then the Chaos Gods wouldn't exist.
>>332997586
They were analogies to stop religious uproar.
>>332998363
I don't know anything about Doom, so I'm curious. What makes the Doomguy OP?
>>332998363
Doomguy could probably fight Chaos better than Kaldor Draigo.
>myw retarded Halo babies
>>332982828
I'm pretty sure that chief can't even take a bolter round tho
>>332998406
>>332998417
>>332998518
>>332998548
>>332998737
Get the fuck outta here.
>>332998363
This footage was captured using an extremely high-speed camera. Not pictured is Doomguy zooming up at Mach 4.
>>332998585
I would say probably, since the majority of characters are all based on belief.
Although 2hu is so vague on everything, and most of the information is from unreliable viewpoints.
>>332998015
GK's could reliably fuck up majority of stuff in 2hu except for Yukari and the higher up shit like Yama/Moonbitches due to their terrain advantage.
>>332997668
Depends on the Marine and depends on the outcome. Yeah I agree on average Space marine>>rapes most spartans. That being said if you put Chief or an actual spartan with a name he could win depending on the scenerio. Plus most average space marines would actually lose to Chief because he has the most broken thing in any universe, and that's called luck or plot armor. Now if you put a primarch or some other stupidly powerful bullshit it changes the dynamic and would swing in the Space marine victory.
>>332997979
>Chaos gods just think the precursors out of existence
You mean the gods who are a fraction of a fraction of a fraction as old as the precursors and nowhere near as powerful as them could just think them out of existence? Sure buddy chaos gods only occasionally are powerful enough to get into the real world from the warp. The precursors just do it because they fucking can.
>C'tan blow them the fuck out in every possible way
What way? With their super novas? Good luck destroying something woven into the fabric of reality and nigh indestructable.
>Orks bend reality and make their dakka be able to destroy precursor tech
Orks can bend reality to make their weapons function and hold together and require a massive number to bend reality. One solar systems worth of Precursor bullshit is enough to break down reality in that sector.
>B-BUT P-PRECURSORS OP
M-Muh 40k!! Compared to Forerunners and eventually to the Precursor your universe is not the top dog that you think it is.
It's just funny that finally when warhammer scrubs finally hit something as hard as their over inflated thoughts of warhammer they don't know how to react.
>>332998737
top kek
>>332998209
That, they could do. It is likely though that the Necrons would cause untold numbers of Black Holes and have the Forerunners stuck in them. Unless they can survive that. Maybe they can. I do not know. I know the Culture can escape black holes due to their ship speed.
>>332998363
Doom Guy wins. He is essentially a plotarmoured Space Marine. If he went up against say, Shadowsun. He'd lose.
>>332998585
Probably. Thing is, all 'witch' powers in 40k come from the Warp. So, it depends if whateverthenameis of 2HU's place counts as the Warp.
>>332998603
They've not covered this for a long long time. Still not as bad as whatshifaces Combi-Plasma. That shit doesn't make sense.
>>332998958
>Doomguy singlehandedly fought his way through Hell twice
>killed more demons than most legions have
>all using vastly inferior technology
>as pureblooded human as it comes
If you were a real servant of the Emperor you'd be down on your knees with your Primarchs kissing Doomguy's gore-soaked boots.
>>332998716
Analogy isn't the real thing nigger
>But in this setting, everything you think is "the devil" or "God" is literally either Chaos or Emperor
well let's use that against you then nigger
in the Vertigo setting all gods are just strong beings but are killable save for the Abrahamic God. And He sure as shit isn't didn't start some bullshit war with some aliens and Chaos so that God isn't the Emperor. Which means that Emperor is just some super strong being on par with the other killable gods.
>he actually thinks anything can beat 2hu power
Alright fellas, real question
Who would win?
Sgt Johnson, or Ciaphas CainHERO OF THE IMPERIUM
>>332999312
Pic related stomps every Toohoo back to back
>>332996173
Oh anon... we were waiting for you to come.. guess you don't want in :(
>>332999079
>C'tan blow them the fuck out in every possible way
>What way? With their super novas? Good luck destroying something woven into the fabric of reality and nigh indestructable.
At least in the old fluff, the C'tan were more than capable of bending reality at their height, and entire star clusters were destroyed when their wrath was directed to them. I'm nowhere near as up to date on the new stuff, but there is a reason the were called Star-Gods
>>332999235
>almost all in glorious close-quarters combat
This man would be the apple of the Emperor's eye
>>332999312
sup.
>>332998725
He's not terribly OP, he's just a badass human.
He's incredibly powerful for a regular human, but If you look at feats >>332997248 doomguy pales in comparison.
>>332999395
Depends on what the victory condition is. If getting shitfaced in a local pub is, then Johnson can definitely win that one.
>>332997248
Those aren't your average marines though. Even by space marine standards members of the Deathwatch are fucking exceptional and often join the place armed to the teeth with the chapter relics to bring honor serving there.
>remember trolling all the halo kiddies on /v/ back in 2010 when Halo Reach was being released
>they would constantly throw themselves into tantrums and caps-lock "LOLOLO KIDZ R AWAYK!" as there only comeback
>now halo is a semi-dead mediocre fossil series
>mfw
>>332998139
>Tubes for hair
>>332999581
>implying a member of the Adepta Sororitas would have sex
You can't fool me with that trick. My dick belongs to the alien ladies.Unless you have delicious brown women.
>>332999846
Those examples are Space Marines from regular chapters. I know that a lot of those are from a book about the Dark Angels, some from Excorciators, who are pretty fucking wimpy and get fucked in the only book they're in, and some other ones.
>>333000025
>implying a member of the Adepta Sororitas would have sex
They do.
It's probably gonna be difficult, and it'll either be hardcore SM sex or straight up torture, but they do.
>>332999583
That's cute, come talk to me when they could move around galaxies. And fuck around with those.
>>333000025
they're not actual nuns you know
the can still fuck and drink beer
>>332999312
>he thinks toddler magic is actually powerful
Sit the fuck down, babby. The grown ups are talking.
>>332999581muh dick
>>332999079
>C'tan blow them the fuck out in every possible way
>What way? With their super novas? Good luck destroying something woven into the fabric of reality and nigh indestructable.
the c'tan can do more than super-novas they can bend reality to their will and each c'tan has their own unique abilities, for example the void dragon has control over all technology, the outsider causes anyone to look upon him go insane
>>332996302
Why would you not? Halo lore is neato to a point.
>>333000000
>>333000212
Try a little harder
>>333000251
to add-on to what this anon said
destroying the c'tan would probably destroy the universe, only one necron dynasty was able to kill a c'tan and the fabric of reality began to tear itself apart
>>332999969
It may be dead in my eyes, but this Ghost of Onyx just fucked all of your warhammer gods, legions, and demons.
>>333000117
Damn, you got me there. I thought those were from a Deathwatch novel.
>>332999079
>D-DOESNT COUNT BECAUSE, UMM, UHH, THEY'RE NOT OLD ENOUGH! YEAH THAT'LL SHOW HIM
Really dude?
>woven into the fabric of reality and nigh indestructable.
Oh man, how about they just do what they do, AND WARP REALITY, and change it so they are no longer nigh indestructable and can now touched by a feather and fall apart. Then they set off their supernovas.
>Orks can bend reality to make their weapons function and hold togethe
Orks bend reality to make what they believe happen, unfortunatly they are stupid and the majority of the time they are thinking "we need more dakka".
>>332998363
They would team up, and Chaos/Hell would be fucked.
>>333000183
>>333000195
I'd still rather fuck crazy religious aliens than crazy religious humans. Unless the Sisters of Battle have something good to bring to the table.
>>333000480
And the Culture stomps anything in Halo, doesn't change the fact that your series is dead.
>>333000610
>unfortunatly they are stupid and the majority of the time they are thinking "we need more dakka".And it's working.
Why do you think there's only war in the distant future of 40K?
>>332998363
I realize that's the double barrel but it literally wouldn't even scratch the paint of that space marines armour.
>>332984929
Is seduced by chaos then killed by an Ultra Smurf.
>>333000630
Confirmed. Doomguy's just showing the smurf his cool vintage SSG.
>>332996307
Only the Companions dress like that. The other 9700 don't.
>>332996651
Not so. In Prospero Burns, the Custodes rape until they realise they die just the same, but a bit harder to kill. Sisters of Silence do the most damage until they're targeted specifically. Custodes still rape though. The books never explain how good they are. For example, during Ullanor, 10,000 Custodes kill 100,000 in 4 mins, losing only 3.
>>333000746
Maybe.
I think the whole WAAAGH field gets blown out of proportion.
It mostly applies to Ork tech and colors.
What about him?
>>333000901
In one of the books a naked World Eater somehow manages to rip apart a armed and armored Custodes and beat him to death. And in Prospero Burns a robot murders a shitton of them if I remember correctly.
>>333000341
You got 330000000 saved?
>>333000887
I see the marine underestimating Doomguy and telling him to stand back while he wades through legions of demons, but grudgingly coming to respect his strength for just being a regular human over the course of their quest through Hell/The Warp. It'd be a pretty sick crossover.
>>333001063
40k actually has some very comparable alien races to him, his ability to resist bolters more or less directly determines how strong he would be.
>>333001063
Mercer with Astartes and xeno DNA is a scary thought.
I wonder if Tyranid biomass and Chaos corruption has any effect on him.
>>333000025
Any better, anon?
>>333000882
>literally 100% suffused by Phazon
>on the homeworld of Phazon
>facing down with the entity that controls Phazon
>wins
Samus has willpower to make a Grey Knight blush. The smurf would buckle before she did.
What is in the last room of the Omega Vault?
>>333001063
Killed by a wandering Metroid.
Where do the Dark Eldar fit in?
>>333001097
I believe the Custodes in question had broken arms or a spine or some shit already when the World Eater killed him.
Custodes need more stuff about them. Forge World implied that either they, or SoS, are mentioned in one of the Beast Arises book. I dunno if it's The Last Wall book (not read it yet) or the one after it when the Eldar comes to save humanity.
>>333001281
Yes, that's better. I don't even care if she spits on my face and calls me an ape, I just want to impregnate her.
>>333001429
The DE's moto is "I will fit it in".
>>333001193
>Mercer fuck a tyranid up
>Proceed to absorb a 13 galaxies worth of evolutions
Holy shit I didn't thought about that.
Now, concidering his own "hive minds" was having a terrifying effect on him, you have to wonder what effect the Tyranid hive mind would have on him.
>>333001429
They are "fixing" the golden throne. The Emperor will probably die but it will probably be the last mistake the deldar will make since the imperial retaliatory strike before they fall will be off the fucking charts.
>>333001172
If it's any indication, his armor mutation is capable of resisting a direct hit from a modern tank shell.
>>333001534
We all do anon... we all do. I wouldn't say no to SoB though.
>>333001154
And probably boggling at how this guy is strafing around Chaos Titans at 70MPHbut can't jump over anything too tall to step on
Reminder supreme commander is on a far higher powerlevel than 40k
>100ft mechs are the most basic bitch a unit gets, factories made in under a minute can spit them out continuously
>one commander can be teleported to a planet and construct an army in minutes, and a nuclear arsenal in under an hour using only on site matter
>>333001703
Forgot to say, while in human form he's as squishy as a regular human, he compense by having a fuckcrazy near-instant regeneration ability.
>>333001623
It's implied the DE are fixing the throne by proxy. The Ad Mech bargained with them for something. My guess is, they asked for cloning technology, to clone the Emperor. In exchange, the told Vect where the hidden Inquisitor base with the Nulls on was.
>>333001836
But its unclear if Supreme commander races have any kind of space fleet. 40K races can just bomb the commander from the orbit.
>>333001764
I'm a xenophile, so unless there's non-white SoB, I'd be going for the xenos.
Plus, I want tocreate half-human hybrids with non-humans and indulge in pregnancy fetish.
The average Spartan would suck against an average Space Marine.
However since John-117 has plot armour that would make the Ultrasmurfs and Kaldor Draigo blush, John-117 could probably wipe out a couple chapters by himself because his plot armour garbage is stronger than even Kaldor Draigo's.
>>333001836
Did we deny that? Either way, only the Nids will be fucked by that. The rest will just blow up the planet, send it into a sun, put it in a black hole.
>>332998015
>Unless the Forerunners can live in Black Holes
Pretty much, they can build megastructures the size of solar systems and put them in slipspace pocket dimensions only a few centimeters across
http://www.halopedia.org/Trevelyan
>>332996625
Forerunner novels; which were basically hard scifi x cosmic horror. A lott of the stuff in iit sounds dumb out of context but they are pretty damn well written and it's well handled in context.
>>333001321
Well then she gets eaten by a Tyranid invasion.
If the Emperor survived the Horus Heresy in a non-vegetable state could humanity deal with the coming horrors of the 42nd millenium?
>>333001836
Just fucking drop fat boys everywhere and the Warhammer 44 universe is toasted.
>>333002246
Pretty much. If he had finished the webway project before getting vegetabled humanity would be pretty fuken OP right now
>>333001874
Where does the fluff regarding this come from? I assume it's only a sentence or two mentioned off hand but I would still like to know.
>>333001992
>Not wanting a pale as the snow Sister
What's wrong with you.
I can tolerate your heresy but now you're just pushing it.
>>332998958
Doomguy has done the equivalent of punching the Warp so hard that they actually had to kick him out. Then he returns for shits and giggles to kill a Chaos God all whilst running at the speed of an assault bike squad. That and he has the equivalent of Volkite weaponry due to his BFG 9000.
Doomguy is hardcore as fuck and probably one of the missing Primarchs.
>>333002368
I would only accept one if she had black hair and brown eyes.
>>333000696
>>332999162
>>332996535
>>332991691
>>332991359
>>332991216
>>332990303
what is the culture and what makes them so op
>>333001974
Are you retarded? The opening cinematic to Forged Alliance features a space ship. It's just that they don't really appear much because the games are about planetside combat and they can teleport across the fucking galaxy.
>>333002381
Nigga at his state Doomguy is pretty much another Big E from an alternate dimention where fucking horus didn't ruined everything.
How about a Vindicare sin. vs a Tac. SM?Or a Warmaster even?
>>333002453
Why then waste time building some gayass robots when they could just snipe the enemy ACU from orbit?
>>333001836
>>333002316
Reminder that daemon engines are a thing.
The best thing about Chaos is that it takes your shit and turns it against you.
>always think nothing could be more autistic than VS fags what wank their little cocks to comic and anime characters
>find out in this thread there are actually even more pathetic people in the form of WH40K fans
Every single thing I hear about this fictional universe makes me think That Kid grew up and created it.
But consider thisCan Superman defeat Goku?
>>332993817
Retarded match. The Eldrazi consume planes of existance.
>>333002341
>webway project
Wasn't that the reason of his fall; isn't Big E holding a massive warp gate the reason why he cannot heal himself?
>>333002534
Vindicare can easily fuck up Tactical Mehreen, they aren't shit to them.
Fact is, anything from the Assassins kick major ass, since once upon a time, their big boss had enough of the High Lords of Terra being useless fucks, slaughtered them all, retreated to his crackshack.
A few days later, several Chapters arrive and they all get their shit kicked in HARD.
>>333002163
Well... So can 40k. It isn't anything particularly special in that regard. Vortex missiles would put the Forerunners into literal Hell. Guess they can live in that?
>>333002356
Ad Mech codex time line. Final time line entry says they panicked when they didn't know why the throne was failing (my head canon is, Emperor is so powerful now he's breaking it) so they fought to Commorragh, traded something to help fix it or save the Emperor from death and fucked off again.
As for the other part, in Dark Eldar codex, the Warp is breaking through into Commorragh, so Vect goes and finds a hidden Inquisitor base, which he shouldn't have (hence my theory he traded the tech for it's location) captured loads of Nulls and strapped them into amplfy machines to hold back the Warp. It didn't work or is in the processing of not working.
If you give me a sec I can try and find the former.
>>333002550
Cybran ACUs can have stealth fields and they can all build stealth generators. It's also probably faster just to teleport an acu across the galaxy and then build an army as all in game build times are lorewise correct than to send space ships.
>>333002479
Not really since he's not a psyker but he's still even more hardcore than the Grey Knights and even some of the Primarchs and shit since Kaldor Draigo just hanged around the Warp trying to be all pious; several Primarchs fell to the warp and never fought in the Eye of Terror whilst Doomguy pulled down his pants and took a great steaming dump on the Eye of Terror so much that Chaos/Hell had to escort him out.
>>332986480
at least there is some hope for /v/
>>333002437
Ships which can move and shoot 24,000 times faster than the speed of light. Perfect AI which can do whatever one asks for. Shit like that.
>>333002781
300 Space Marines went in, one came out with the guys head. I would consider that a job well done.
Why dont they just make another empror?
>>333002913
>>333002632
Here is your (You)'s, samefags.
>>333002993
Impossible.
No one knows how and the Warp would devour anyone that would try.
>>333002997
t. triggered 40kfag
>>333002993
All the shamans are dead. It is implied the Golden Throne isn't just keeping the Emperor alive, but increasing his power. 10,000 souls, at least, every day, for 10,000 years. Each one a pysker. Basically he is getting constant XP.
I know im being a pathetic nerd but it would be cool to watch the Imperium of Man warp in to the Human covenant war and see how things would go. Some sort of animated series.
Watching Elites faces as thousands of super spartans start dropping from the sky.
>>333002923
>300 vs 1
Why the fuck they don't train SM like Officio Assassinorum guys then? I mean the kick ass factor would be trough the roof
>>333002923
It's ridiculous how crazy powerful they are when you think about it.
You have the faggots that can snipe some schmuck's head from the other side of a planet
A bunch of crazy nympho that are pretty much cameleon on steroids where they can impersonate anybody
And then you also have the crazy junkies that'd make a primarch shit his pant.
And also a bunch of other crazy shit I forgot about.
>>333003110
Nope. I'm more into Banks works. I just know you're looking for (You)'s or you wouldn't be in here. This is /v/. You can't just ignore things you don't like, you have to point out why and what is wrong with liking said things. It's a form of trying to make your life feel better in comparison.
I just like Vs. threads.
>>332986480
>I have a feeling that the makers of 40K created the size and scale of their universe as a huge inside joke.
They did, but you aren't some genius for realising this because they were never subtle about it.
The first inquisitor was named something like sherlock obi-wan clouseau and everyone was 80's power metal
>>332986480
>and they just got done fucking your mother.
Too bad they werent the Dark Eldar, i would pay them to take the bitch to camorra or whatever is called and shove a skycrapper dildo up her ass.
>>333002993
First you have to tell them where they're going to get the shaman necessary for that. Then you need to have every psycker in the Imperium ritualistically commit mass suicide.
>>333002437
>>333002914
Isn't it also a utopia?
>>333003221
>You can't just ignore things you don't like, you have to point out why and what is wrong with liking said things. It's a form of trying to make your life feel better in comparison.
thanks for agreeing with me
>>333002923
Wait, 300? Where is this number stated? The Beheading NEVER mentions the numbers and the book which will cover it isn't out yet.
>>333003212
they are as powerful as the writers want them to be, just like comics. Tau raped 4 Assassins and only one of their targets was killed.
>>333003153
Nah it just wasn't one guy, they had to face pretty much all they had in stock, but it's still mind blowing that only one guy out of the 300 Mehreen got out when you know how insane they are with all their shit.
But I'd reckon the Grand Master would still be able to pick up the heat concidering that he's, well, the grand fucking master of all these crazy assholes.
>>333003153
No it was the marines against every assassin of the ordo on the planet. That one guy was just the boss who orchestrated everything and needed to be killed.
>>333003334
>send four assassins after tau space pope
>anti psyker one is the only one to succeed
>>333003312
Ah but that's the key thing. This is a Vs. thread. That's the whole fucking point of it. Difference is, nobody is going "You suck for liking Halo". It's people going "40k is more powerful than Halo". Or vice a versa. You and your fellow (You) gathers, come in and just attack a group of people who have not done anything but keep to ontopic content.
That's all you done. Come in and gone "40k fans suck. My life is better than yours"
>>333003153
>>333003420
>>333003431
You guys are bringing up numbers which have never been mentioned.
A group of Astral Blades, Imperial Fists and some other fuckers went down and got attacked by 100 Eversors. It never mentioned how many. Only that they did and only one survived.
>>333003471
i'm not going to read that, but yes, 40k fans are sub-110 IQ brainlets.
>>333003583
I didn't mention any numbers faggot
>>332997668
>Calls it a decade long ruse
>Still participates
>>333003459
Well. No. Vindicare was suppose to kill Farsight. Eversor too. Calldius was to kill Shadowsun. Culexus killed Space Pope though.
>>332990126
AIs cannot mess with imperial tech. Imperial tech is so retarded because it was redesigned after a full blown AI revolt. The machine spirit is actually extremely advanced anti AI fuckery. Or else their shit just deals without anything that can be messed with.
>>332993067
Lucifer is incredibly OP to literal godlike levels. He can: create a universe, design an afterlife for that universe, and ignite all the stars in the universe. He's practically God.
>>333003663
>300 v 1
>300 Marines
>all they had
Unless you're >333003431 you don't really have an out.
>>332995691
Welllll, if we talk about 40k universe as a whole then that's different. There's swarms of tyranids (worse then the flood) all the chaos gods and some other cheese stuff. The sheer numbers of the armies in the lore is just fucking stupid. Your 343 lore may be powerful but they will get overwhelmed with numbers.
>>333003794
1d4 says chapter size? some fa/tg/uy could please translate?
>>332994928
Nasa uses nautical terms for astronauts, though.
>>333003590
>Everyone else is stupid because they don't agree with me.
My god, just stop.
>>333003086
>>333003116
>>333003257
Hold up, how come there aint no shamen?
>>332994892
HERESY
no seriously tho
why do furfags have to do this shit
>>333002437
>>333003262
Some of the best Scifi you'll ever read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture
>>333004121
Because they ritualistically committed mass suicide to fuse into one being - the Emperor.
>>333003957
I'm not well versed in Warhammer but aren't IG forces to be counted in billions?
They pretty much could go full Stalin on Halo's shit.They already do in their own universe.
Again, I'm not sure at all about this.
>>332987715
Unless samus can litteraly withsand blasts of plasma hotter than the core of our sun, he's actually right.
>>333004112
Don't ever fucking reply to me again with a low-IQ post, you disgusting vermin.
I was entertaining you because I was bored, but you're seriously getting on my nerves. Being a measly two standard deviations above 100 IQ does not give you the right to respond to me, troglodyte.
Fuck off. This is your last warning.
>>333004268
The Imperium is certainly not lacking in manpower.
Hell, their number one resource is warm bodies to throw at the problems.
>>333004358
*withstand
>>333004268
To be honest probably in the quadrillions considering the most worthless currency is human beings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eowPka21BNc
Standard Imperial Guard battle doctrine.
>>333004230
Yeah but how come more havent popped up in all history? were they like some ultra rare strain of the human race?
>>333004268
>I'm not well versed in Warhammer but aren't IG forces to be counted in billions?
>>333004447
BAIT FOR THE BAIT GOD!
HOOKS FOR THE HOOK THRONE!
LET THE GALAXY REEEEEEEE IN AUTISM!
>>333004358
Samus can literally run through a blast of plasma with no damage.
>>333004054
Chapter Size is 1000 Marines. The numbers are not stated in any book. They will likely be mentioned by September. But not at the moment.
>>333004121
They used to exist. Then the War in Heaven made the Chaos Gods. Which then caused any shaman who died to come back fucked in the head. So they all had a meeting and said "We can't defeat Chaos like this, we'll slowly be picked off and corrupted". So they all committed sudoku and formed the Emperor. Bar Malcador, who is implied to be a Shaman. Emperor is now essentially a God and does God things. Like pretending to be religious figures and God and angels and shit.
>>333004447
That wasn't me. I was the guy who gave you (You)'s earlier. He is somebody else who likes to see autistic retards like yourself try to form coherent sentences while trembling with autistic rage. You're like that Russian Minecraft serial killer kid.
>>333004268
Yeah you are correct. They win in sheer calculations of numbers. You are no longer a soldier but instead a statistic. And the Imperial Gaurds alone match the tech of the UNSC. Space marines are beefier spartans but in an army with chapters of thousands and stuff.
I love Halo just as much as WH40k
But the sheer numbers in 40k are insane, plus Chief only really has plot armor.
>>333004762
>Like pretending to be religious figures and God and angels and shit.
Unlike you, whelp, I once walked the same ground as your Idol . I breathed the same air as him. And I tell you this, without lie or artifice. He never wanted to become what you have made him! He did not wish to be your god-thing. He abhorred such ideals! The slavery of your crippled, blind Imperium would sicken him, if he had eyes to see it.
>>333004740
Yeah but she also gets PTSD from being used as an angle polisher by a space pterodactyl.
>>333004740
Not all fictions plasma is the same.
The plasma in 40k is 30 million degrees Farenhiet, hotter than the core of our sun.
Plasma (and grav weapons) are OP as fuck
>>333005034
Samus can fire miniature suns and incur no damage from the act.
So, 40k's handheld weaponry is useless against her.
>>333005034
how does grav work in 40k, i understand it crushes the person inside their armor but how
>>333005251
source?
>>333004853
But the Emperor does know what's going on. He's talked to people about it. Well, part of him has. He realises it is a needed. He realises that humanity worshipping him means they won't worship Chaos. If he didn't agree with it, he wouldn't protect Sisters of Battle with his aura.
However, BEFORE the Great Crusade, he did regularly appear as religious figures and shit. He tried to make religion work. He tried to change what he saw in the future. Read "The Last Church". It is essentially Fedora vs Theists to the level of junior high philospohy and theology, but it is very interesting in seeing the view of the Emperor. He basically goes "I tried, for thousands of years, to make religion work. It doesn't. Humanity doesn't use religion for good, it does it for evil. So, remove religion, remove the problem."
>>333005319
Prime 2
>>333004740
>>333005251
What about that gun that fires pshycho reactive bullets and drives you nut.
Also PTSD from xeno birds.
>>333005283
I think it projects a gravity field on the target and increases it in a localised area. So the 'bubble' increases in gravity so much that the more armour you have, the more you suffer as you bones break and your organs rupture.
>>332980694
wtf master chief beat doom guy so of course he could beat whatever the fuck that stupid looking robot guy is
>>333005413
I played prime 2 and never did it mention firing tiny stars. You probably misinterpreted that light aether weapon thing.
>>333005283
Most of it is technology that the mechanicum barely understands since it hails from the golden/dark age of technology so we don't know for certain. What we do know is that it creates a localized gravity wave of some type and it essentially makes it very effective against anything that is heavy it can destroy armour or bunkers or personnel or just about anything else. The Imperium has some ridiculously advanced technology but most of it is old as fuck and can't be reproduced or if it can it's veeeeeery slow.
>>333005251
Firstly: source.
Secondly: not all plasma is handheld. Plasma cannons are far more powerful than plasma pistols or guns, and the latter two are essentially shooting mini-stars
Thirdly: grav weapons and volkite chargers.
>>333004157
he probably just likes the movie
this is his usual art
>>332995356
>>332999581
>>333005660
....oh... ok
>>333005353
>He realises that humanity worshipping him means they won't worship Chaos.
Honestly no he didn't realized this otherwise the Horus Heresy would have not happened the way it did given that he essentially bitchslapper Lorgar and his legion for worshiping him.
As for the Last Church, I've read it and to me Uriah vindicated himself by accurately predicting that by the Emperor not understanding how the humans of 40K need to believe in something greater than themselves, they would latch onto him as God which was a scenario the Emperor denied would happen.
>>333004157
This anon >>333005660 is right. He enjoyed the film so he combined it with another thing he enjoys. I don't like it. It irritates me, but his art is so good I just have to ignore it and hope he goes back to 40k or video games. His Witcher 3 art was great.
>>333005561
Light weapon fires a small sun with the beam combo
>>333005595
Prime 2, again
Gravity suit, dunno what a volkite charger is but seeing as you brought up plasma weapons first it must not be particularly impressive
Bird magic > moth magic > MUH UMPRAH
>>333005319
>>333005595
He's talking about the Sunburst Beam Combo from Metroid Prime 2, though I don't recall it ever being mentioned to be a miniature star.
Still, Samus has other shit like the Darkburst, which opens a portal and sucks things in, or the time-space distortions of the Sonic Boom. Not to mention she can take Quadraxis' antimatter gun without a problem, and the Gravity Suit completely negates gravity based effects.
>>333005743
I can't remember the source, but he talks to some guy, or at least one of the pyskers inside him does. He says it's a necessary evil for the moment.
The Emperor could see into the future, but he couldn't see past a certain point. He knew that something bad was going to happen. He didn't care. He wanted the Webway done and then he could die. But Magnus ended that.
It is true, Uriah does say that. However the Emperor realises it is needed in 40k. As I said, if he didn't, he wouldn't protect Sisters of Battle.
>>333006165
Can Samus' suit protect her from psykic powers and Warp phenomena?
>>333004846
I'd say kaskrins/stormtroopers are comparable to spartan IIIs
>>333006145
>volkite charger is but seeing as you brought up plasma weapons first it must not be particularly impressive
Actually quite the opposite. it's a weapon which sets things on fire at the tempature of plasma. But the fire starts on the inside and works it's way out. It ignores any armour and just sets you on fire, at the tempature of the sun, starting with your insides first.
So really
The omnissiah>Bird magic > moth magic > MUH UMPRAH
>>333006165
Real question. Can she survive Exterminatus?
>>333006670
Is her suit hermetically sealed? If so, yes. Can she survive in the void of space until she lands on another planet? If so, yes. Can she survive in the Warp? If so, yes.
>>333006804
It was a joke dude, don't let fangoggles blind you.
Nothing survives Exterminatus
Especially someone who had to escape several planets as they were blowing up.
>>333006310
I don't know. Samus doesn't fight very many psychic opponents, and when she does they don't tend to use those types of abilities. Best I can think of is Gorea or the Chozo Ghosts, which weren't much of a problem for her. So honestly, no idea.
>>333006670
Probably not, given that she needs to escape from exploding planets and space stations routinely.
>>333002437
Mainly their AI that they let run everything that's so advanced they exist partially in hyperspace. They also shitpost like 4channers.
Sup
>>333007015
But it is still theortically possible for her to survive it. Virus Bombs wouldn't kill her unless it breached her defences. Cyclonics would blow up the planet, but assuming she survives the missiles themselves, she might survive in space. Void Missiles would send the whole thing into the Warp and unless she's Kaldor Draigo, she will be turned into a fleshlight for somebody.I now want a picture of Samus being fucked by Slaaneshes giant futa dick
>>333007541
Vortex Grenade. Enjoy the Warp, faggot. Grav Weapons, enjoy your shields being crushed by your own mass. Statis Bombs. Deathstrike Missiles. Loads of shit can wreck Sup Com.
I was never good at Sup Com. Loved the game. Wish there were more games like it.