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Shouldn't space marine be called imperial guards and imperial guards be called space marines? xD
>>332982365
What the fuck
>>332980694
depends who is more intimidating to the orks
>>332980694
Chief could probably beat most SM short of Primarchs.
The average Spartan would probably get rekt by the shittest of SM.
>>332982828
This is fair
>>332982365
The Imperial Guard is the name of the regular army, since they have a large presence in the entire Imperium and are able to quickly respond to any threat, ergo they guard the Imperium. Space Marines are the elite infantry that is used in the more extreme cases, where some shit needs to be fucked up quick, so Adeptus Astartes, or Space Marines, is more apporpriate.
>>332982828
I'd think Chapter Masters or even a lucky captain could take the chief.
>>332980694
Well which one is more quotable?
>>332980694
Trick question, pic related takes all
>>332982828
Considering that the Chief is blessed by plot armor, or flat luck, this is probably accurate. Not without some difficulty, though.
>>332980694
The pic makes it look like Chief is sucking the Space Marine's dick
orks under s single waagh >>>>>>>
>>332985247
Do space marines even have dicks?
>>332985542
nope
>>332982365
He's right.
>>332980694
/tg/ already dealt with this
>>332984929
Magic bird technology > anything
A Space Marine would easily win. Far better equipment and training but this is easy considering it's in the year 40000.
>>332984929
how many space marines would it take to kill samus? lets say a bolter round is about as powerful as a regular missile.
>>332985841
about one with plasmagun.
>>332983605
I know what you're saying, on the flip side;
IG are closer to modern day marines, being ordinary humans who are trained to deploy in foreign locations. Imperial Guard sounds more prestigious and less like a conventional military unit, the personal bodyguards of an emperor or an imperial palace.
>>332985841
not how many as much as how powerful of one, she could probably stand up to something like a Primarch with a full set of her gear at end game
>>332985542
Yes they do. They don't get removed, they just don't get excited unless it's for the glory of the emperor.
Warhammer 40K is for obnoxious mouthbreathing retards who have the need to win "internet arguments" about which made up universe could beat all other made up universes.
I have a feeling that the makers of 40K created the size and scale of their universe as a huge inside joke. Ships the size of planets, alien invasions that span half the galaxy, 10 foot tall humans that weigh a ton, it's fucking retarded.
But don't worry, because if you question ANY of this you're called a "heretic" and the circle jerk continues.
Well guess what, my 40cuck friends, i just imagined, in my head, of a ship twice the size of the largest ship in the 40K universe maned by trans-dimensional meta humans that fire psi-weapons capable of melting even the most powerful space marine armor, and they just got done fucking your mother.
>>332980694
The space Marine bolter gun is essentially a anti-material calibre riffle with exploding ammo that detonates after penetrating.
A couple shots would kill the chief, and seeing as to how enhanced the Space marines are, just about better in every single fucking way, armor included, strip down the plot armor of both, and the space marines wins every single time.
>>332984929
it still bothers me that the fucking suit is not a suit at all its just FUCKING SPACE BIRD MAGIC SON IT APPEARS NIGGA RUNS ON EMOTIONS WHY? FUCK YOU THATS WHY
i used to imagine samus running maintenance and checks before putting it onshe will never be a amazon either just a submissive jap mans dream
>>332986089
There really more like the modern day army. A large group of generally trained soldiers meant to occupy and secure a large geographic location. Generally competent in their designed task with some badass specialized units or older units held to a higher standard from a historic pedigree.
>>332986480
You're an idiot and the point of 40k is over-the-top sci-fi
it's from the 80's
>http://dagobah.net/flash/Space_Marines_vs_Spartans.swf
>>332986810
Fine, whatever, nobody gives two shits about how large your ships are. It's not the source material i have so much of a problem with but with the fans who can't shut the fuck up about it.
>>332986810
His complaint is fairly valid because for about as far back as I can remember (Mid 2005) any discussion of anything on this site that mentions strength or power in the slightest... Space Marines get brought up.
It's kinda like how people used to complain how Furries tried turning all discussions towards Furries... 40K fanboys do the exact same thing. It gets tiresome.
>>332986627Other M isn't canon, just treat it like that
also even before then it's always been somewhat of a magic-fueled type thing that the Chozo whipped up, with the materializing on her and disintegrating and everything
>>332986920
You entered a wh40k thread, wilingly, knowing that there would be wh40k talk, you obviously do care seeing as how you are mentioning how large the ships are, bitching about it and mentioning it again to try and mock people who enjoy the ridiculous nature of it, and then complain about a fanbase who mostly stays in its own threads talking about it, talking about it in one of its own threads.
Son, go to sleep and stop posting.
>>332980694
Space Marine, how is that a question?
>>332986480
>scale of their universe as a huge inside joke
Congratulations on figuring out that 40k is completely tongue-in-cheek.Or at least it was to begin with, now it's hard to tell.
>>332987189
Don't worry ,you guys don't hesitate to bring it up at the first opportunity, even when nobody asked you to. Star wars vs Star Trek thread? Bring up 40K and how their planet size ships could "totally own" a Super Star Destroyer.
So maybe i could return the favor and come to where i'm not wanted and annoy you with posts that you don't want to see.
>>332987596
>planet size ships
And those are?
>>332985978
just no.
>>332986480
>>332986920
>>332987596
Oh shit, you're that same guy in the Space Marine vs Jedi thread. I'm almost sure of it. I should be able to find your posts. Give me a bit.
>>332987596
You're not annoying, you're just making a fool of yourself. By all means, carry on! I love the salt.
>>332987596
Please stop, you're acting like an autistic child. So much so that it makes the norm seem tame.
>>332987596
Nigger, I doubt the sort of shit you are doing is even common enough to be mad about, but even if so, you got so angry about the worst people within a group of likeminded individuals you decide to just go and fuck up the group of people who share the same interests but ain't fucking shit up?
Not only is that legit 12 year old mentality, its also what radical SJW shit is all about. Thinking one small minority or random individual englobes everything and so hating everything with irrational passion while looking like a dunce is what rabbid hamplanets do, you look like a straight up triggered NEET.
>>332987596
Christ, this is some serious autism.
>>332987846
>Space Marine vs Jedi
That's really not fair unless it's a grey knight or some other psyker.
>>332987852
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>>332988108
Looks like someone got triggered, what's wrong 40Kbabies, sobody mocked your space maweens?
>>332986480
>getting mad over 40k nonsense
faggot
>>332988172
>So autisticaly mad he can only post reaction images, trying to make us look like fools
You can't feign retardation anon, the sperg is obvious, and you are the only one triggered.
>>332988324
>Does't know how to read
Typical 40cuck
>>332986480
>I have a feeling that the makers of 40K created the size and scale of their universe as a huge inside joke
DING DING DING
finally time for midnight WH40k discussion
ORKZ DA BES'!
>>332980694
Space Sues don't stand a chance against based Halo SPARTANs, no matter what 40k fanboys say.
>>332988172
>Using babytalk
Oshit you got me anon.
>>332988172
You tell em' buddy!
>>332988372
but you are triggered by 40k talk, in a 40k vs thread of all things
>>332988427
Please refer to
>>332985694
Its just a "My dad could beat up your dad" but in that department, Space Marines kind of win in every single possible way.
>>332988569
Nope. If you think Space Sues would win, you've clearly never played or read anything Halo-related.
This is now E.Y.E. Thread
Marines of Space must leave before I break their legs.
>>332988635
>>332988635
why could they win?
>>332988753
Space Sues are just too weak.
>>332988841
How?
halo doesn't afraid of anything so he wins
>>332988372
>b-but it doesn't make any sense and they w-won't shut up
>nuh uh, my favourite vidya character wouldn't get so easily and comprehensively destroyed by Space Marines, stop it!
I think you're mad that some random 40k fuckboi blew whatever bullshit franchise you stan the fuck out with GOAT imperium shenanigans
>>332985841
I'd honestly say she could slaughter them until she gets tired. Her suit converts matter to shields and ammo (read; pickups) so as long as she keeps killing she can keep going. Their best option would be to hide and try and bleed her slow, but since she's faster than them and can easily locate them using her various visors even that falls short.
>>332988841
give an explanation about the abilities that Spartans have over space marines
>>332980694
I don't know shit about Warhammer 44k. Looks more like the name of a power metal band.
Why is there so much obsession with pitting MC against everyone?
Seriously, I've seen it all now. MC vs Gordon Freeman, MC vs Kratos, MC vs Doomguy, MC vs Marcus Fenix, MC vs Space Marines, MC vs Super Mario. Everything for all kinds.
>>332988113
No, a Space Marine would easily beat a Jedi. Only the insanely powerful would have a chance.
Also, here is the thread
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46004226/#46004226
And the troll's posts
>>46009401
>>46009746
>>46010144
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>>46012217
This is a troll thread btw.
>>332980694
This isnt even a fair fight. Not a single thing in the halo universe would survive in the 40k one.
You obviously dont understand how OP 40k is. The only thing that could possibly beat anything 40k would have to be effectively God.
>>332988635
A bolter would kill a spartan dude.
if you have ever read a 40k book or played a game
you would know.
Spartans wouldnt stand a chance. one marine would kill at least 100
>>332988841
Oh. Right.
>>332988969
>>332988883
>spoonfeed me like my "epic" /tg/ threads!
No. Go and read a Halo book, maybe even play the games if you have the skill to complete them. Nobody will spoonfeed you here.
>>332989027
>This is a troll thread btw
You don't need to tell me that, and still, I don't think it's right to compare space wizards from star wars to not psykers in 40k.
Could chief win against the man who will make the imperium great again?
>>332989107
>spartans could be space marines
>source: my ass
>>332989107
>I don't know, the post.
How about you read a 40k book?
>>332989107
post master chief vs locke
>>332989030
The Flood would
>>332989224
>>spartans could be space marines
You're retarded.
>>332989281
What is, Tyranids for 500 Alex!
>>332989281
>The Flood would
T y r a n i d s
>>332989238
No, you.
>>332989281
Necrons could beat the flood
>>332989281
Tyranids are literally just the flood x1000000
>>332989216
That is not the Emperor.
>>332989353
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=typo :^)
>>332989107
>lol I don't spoonfeed
When you make a claim, it's on YOU to provide source. They're not asking for the latest plot heavy harem anime of the season, they're asking you to show you're not pulling things out of your ass.
>>332989452
fucking Tyranids ruining gene-stealers I just want to play space hulk.
>>332989624
>Oh no, someone called me out on my retarded headcanon theory!
>Better pretend it was an accidental mistake!
You're doubly retarded.
>>332989648
>fucking Tyranids ruining gene-stealers
Fuck you. They have some really cool models for various generations of genestealer cults now, too.
>>332989107
Its's not spoonfeeding. It's finding facts to backup your arguement's. It's like if your in court defending the witness and the Judge asks for where the witness works at, and you just go "I'm not gonna spoonfeed you. Find it urself fgt.".
>>332989552
The emprah wasn't always a corpse and one day he will rise to fix everything
>>332989470
>I choose denial!
Ok buddy. You are clearly beyond redemption at this point.
>>332989961
Yeah, but he wouldn't be wearing an ugly toupee.
>>332989890
>/v/ discussions are the equivalent of a court case
You 40k fans are funny.
Look, if you don't even know the basics of both sides of the argument here (Space Marines and SPARTANs), why are you even participating in the discussion? Not to mention, any and all information provided here could very well be either false or grossly exaggerated. The only way to know (which you seem keen on) is to pursue the source material yourself.
Go read a book.
>>332988427
>>332988569
>>332988635
>>332988753
>>332988841
>>332988883
>>332989107
>>332988969
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>>332989648
Halo lorefag here that's not an obnoxious fag like him: He's wrong. spartans would lose.
Granted, they'd have a much better shot then you'd think, as canoniically they are way faster and stronger then the halo games would imply (for example, at age 14, even without armor, they could take down powered exoskeletons that were almost mechs on their own with no guns just by punching it and tearing off it's mounted guns, and in armor you see shit liike them punching anti tank missles out of the sky and running 60 mph by tearing their own achilees tendon or sniping people out of aircraft while hanging upsiide down from an airrcraft themselves), but the bottom line is iif you put a good level space marine (i'm not a warhammer guy so I don't know all the tiers) and a spartan in a cage, the spartan is gonna lose unless they also have a smart AI with them, in which case the space marine is fucked because that smart AII is just gonna shut their suit down.
40k also has the advantage in a war situation since the empires in thehalo universe aren't as expansive as n the 40k universe even if the ship tech and sizes and weaponry in the halo universe are a match or exceed 40ks: The covenant's navy while having plenty of ships that match 40k's strongest ones, pobably only has a total size of 10,000-30,000 ships max, their absolute largest fleet is only 800-2000 ships large. The UNSC is even lower in quanitity.
The main thing the halo universe has going for them, the UNSC especially, is that theiir FTL and AI shit is way ahead of the 40k universe.
All of that said the forerunners or ancient humans, let alone the flood or precursors would absolutely demolish even the highest level factions in 40k.
>>332990124
>Go read a book
I'm not a part of this argument, but I wouldn't be caught dead reading a Halo or 40k book, senpai.
>>332986480
But 40k is one of the lowest powered tier universes in history.
The Culture wouldn't even notice the entire universe of 40k combining.
When a ship can move and fire at 240,000 times the speed of light, you can't beat that. In other words, The Culture is one of the top tier. Hell, BOLOS is better than 40k in many regards.
>>332990251
Why the fuck are you posting then?
>>332989420
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>>332989517
You guys all say that but you don't know how broken late game flood are do you?
>>332988427
It's canon that a WW2 tank shell would instantly kill a Spartan. This is in the series lore.
>>332990126
i once saw someone arguing that proper FTL travel is a pretty fucking huge advantage, since guerilla space warfighting is pretty impossible for the imperium to deal with.
also what powers do an AI have to shut down a suit?
it seemed like cortana couldn't mess with spark, for example.
>>332990395
the necrons c'tan could just open a black hole any time and all the flood would say goodbye
>>332990126
Absolutely misinformed bullshit. A Spartan's suit AI won't be able to even interface with a Marine's suit. How are they gonna possibly do that? It's not like power armour is a fucking bluetooth connection.
Besides that, 40k is very obviously a match for anything in the Halo universe. The Flood are a weak version of Tyrannids and the Flood beat the shit out of the ancient Halo universe.
>>332990395
>basing the argument on game mechanics, not on lore
>>332990395
do tell anon, i love lore battles just for learning about crazy overpowered shit.
>>332990395
I do. The Nids are worse. There's a reason why the smart bet for the ultimate winners of the 40k verse are the nids.
>>332990437
And Space Marines don't die to Battlecannon blasts?
>>332986480
When society collapses, I will be sure you make a personal visit to your "house". I will use your skull as a soup bowl.
>>332990395
I remember reading somewhere that the forerunners basic soldiers had like 1000 mechs at their command or something, and they still lost, so I can kinda see that.
>>332990448
>>>332990126
>i once saw someone arguing that proper FTL travel is a pretty fucking huge advantage
It is even in universe. The necrons/Eldar/dark Eldar can literally run circles around the imperium because they can FTL without relying on dangerous warp travel
>>332990448
Proper FTL is actually a massive advantage. Safe travel through space is one of the Empire's weak points.
>>332990608
Every faction bar the Tau have a 'end game' win scenario in 40k. Every one. Every faction is gearing towards it. GW has yet to think of a reason the Tau would win, there is no 'end game' they're going for. Yes, they are the fastest new tech adaptors, but there is no McGuffin they're aiming for. At beast Farsight turns into a Chaos God or whatever the Monster he's suppose to turn into.
>>332990637
No
“Nemiel watched the Astartes race up to the street corner and put their backs to a burnt-out storefront, their bolters held across their chests. One of the two warriors – Brother Cortus, Nemiel thought – slid to the end of the wall and peered around the corner. Nemiel heard the battle cannon fire and watched the corner of the building Coitus was standing at disintegrate in the space of a single heartbeat. The two Astartes disappeared in a blizzard of pulverised stone and fragments of structural steel. A billowing cloud of dust and smoke enveloped the intersection and rolled down the street towards the rest of the squad. The squad took cover on reflex, crouching behind rubble piles or pressing close to a building wall. Nemiel checked his helmet display and saw the status icon for Brother Cortus flash from green to amber. He was wounded, perhaps seriously, but still functional. The walls of the building must have shielded the Astartes from the worst of the blast. Less than a minute later Brother Yung emerged from the smoke cloud, his black armour caked with brown dust. He was half-carrying, half-dragging Brother Cortus. Nemiel rose from cover and jogged forward as Yung set the wounded warrior down next to the shattered stoop of a hab unit. Cortus reached up and fumbled with his helmet. One side of the ceramite helm had been partially crushed, shattering the right ocular and splitting it from crown to nape. Yung lent a hand and helped the wounded Astartes pull the helmet free. ‘Status?’ Nemiel asked. Brother Cortus sent the smashed helmet bouncing across the street.
>Cont
>>332990637
Not WW2, no. The fluff states they can take regular tank shots, it's mentioned in pretty much every edition. Just because they CAN die to them in the game is irrelevant. AP2 anything will kill a Space Marine, unless it's a meme strength, then the Toughness save can block it. Or they have a ++/+++/FnP.
Fuck sake, 40k is really heading towards WHFB tier levels of rules.
>>332990126 here:
I know my grammar was shit in that post but ii'm having a migraine so fuck you
Also, for people not familiar with halo ships and such, this is a great resource for the sizes of ships, megastructures, vehicles, races, characters, and weapons in halo lore: http://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_scalecomparison/1280h.html
Lastly, use halopedia as your halo wiki, not the wikia site
>>332990251
see
>>332990337
Also the halo books are great, you are missing out
>>332990448
Smart AI's in halo are insanely OP. Cortana especially was designed to infiltrate alien systems. She couldn't get iinto spark because the foreunners are ridiculously OP as are their AI.
>>332990395
Thanks for pointing those posts out for me
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>>332990543
I suggest you read
http://www.halopedia.org/Key_Mind
http://www.halopedia.org/Star_road
http://www.halopedia.org/Neural_physics
And go from there, the flood once they get control of a sizable amount of star systems essentially turn into reality warping eldritch elder gods. They can literally just throw stars as projectile weapons and tear slices across spacetime. The precusors, which the flood are reincarnations of, have lived through multiple big bangs and big crunches. The grravemind/key mind collective would fucking corrupt the god emperor's psyche instantly via logic plague
Late game flood/precusors are some of the most OP fictional races period, let alone modern scifi universes.
>>332990395
Tyranids have hive fleets that are half the size of galaxies
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>>332989517
The fact the tyranids still exist in the WH40 universe pretty much proves the Flood would proliferate just fine.
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>>332990779
i'm oddly fond of this strange weakness of the empire.
it's a colossus which's legs collapsed under its own weight. it's easy to run circles around it, however its upper body strength is just so fucking massive that you don't want to get in that range.
also it's crying because it's in a place it doesn't want to be in.
>>332988669
IT'S THE INQUISITION
>>332990993
>Just because they CAN die to them [...] is irrelevant
Except it's 100% relevant to the comparison at hand. They can die to Battlecannon blasts, which are 120mm tank blasts - 120mm being one of the calibres used in WW2.
Who would win?I-I am conflicted...
>>332990981
The skin on the right side of his face had been deeply scored by the impact, peeling away the flesh down to the bone in some places. His right eye was a bloody ruin, but the wound was clotting quickly thanks to Cortus’s enhanced healing ability. ‘One battle tank and four APCs, three hundred metres south,’ he said, his voice rough with pain. ‘Approximately a platoon of infantry in hasty defensive positions, maybe more.’ ‘I was talking about your head, brother.’ Cortus glanced dazedly at the Redemptor, blinking his one good eye. ‘Oh, that,’ he said dismissively. ‘It’s nothing. Did anyone see what happened to my bolter?’”
>>332990303
But everything loses to the Culture.
>>332991013
see
>>332991007
The flood have infected multiple universes and have lived through multiple beginnings and ends of them, and can move galaxies and warp reality
>>332990126
I agree, partially. It depends on the Spartan and how much preparation they have. Canon wise Hunters are probably stronger or equal to a space marine and Spartans have been known to fight them in hand to hand and win. The problem with this comparison of which space jarhead would win is difficult though, as Spartans are more shock troopers and special ops, while space marines can range from regular infantry to guys so powerful that 1v10000 is just a fair fight to them.
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>>332990608
Final tier flood have access to precursor technology which is completely indestructable to anything besides Halo rings. They have planets called key minds that are essentially giant precursor AI's with processing powers that dwarf most of Forerunner AIs and everything else They are so numerous that they fucked with space time and bent space time fucking with slipspace. They used their star roads to smash suns into forerunner fleets. When the universe came into being the precursors had already been there for several billions of years. Yeah
Tyranids wouldn't stand a chance sorry. Also refer to other halo lore dude>>332991007
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>>332990303
Precusors would kick the shit out of the culture, even the forerunners would be a match in many regard
>>332991168
40k tank shells are larger than ww2 tank shells
>>332990126
this is how to argue halo plebs
>>332991007
>effectively enabled the Flood the power of manipulating reality to an extent through their sheer power of thought
haha oh man FLOOD VS ORKZ 'ERE WE GO!
>>332991391
Battlecannon shells are 120mm. Read a Codex or any book dealing with mech IG.
>>332991168
One of the calibres. The difference is, they regularly don't. Spartans get instantly killed.
The game says they can die, the fluff says they don't. The game is about balance. The fluff isn't. So, no, a regular 54mm, the rough average of WW2, they won't.
>>332988427
If you think Spartans could beat space marines you don't know what space marines really are
Space marines were made from the genes of the primarchs who were made from the genes of the emperor, so space marines are off shoots of the emperor himself
>>332990608
>nids
>winning
>when orks exist
I choose to believe the dumbass reality bending race that multiplies at a stupid fucking rate will win.
>>332991359
Unlikely. The Culture would have destroyed any ships before the Precursors saw them.
>>332991007
>the flood
It's not even known how vast the Tyranids are. In fact it's theorized that the only thing you ever see of them is a Vanguard. While the Flood is certainly formidable in the Halo universe, in the 40k universe they would just be 'another bug hunt'.
>the navy
I appreciate your citations, but even with all the combined might of all the races in all of the Halo universe, if the same were to be said with 40k it would be over instantly. Phalanx aside, the absolute insane amount of fire power these races have would be incomprehensible as a combined might. The very universe would collapse.
>>332991615
Yeah, sure, I only read 60+ 40k novels, so obviously I wouldn't know a thing about Space Marines. I mean, come on, they hardly ever appear in 40k fiction at all! They're like this huge enigma of the setting. I wish we knew more about the Space Marines, man.
>>332991501
i'm actually betting it all on orkz for this one.
>>332991261
Just like how war in heaven necrons, prefall eldar, and DAOT humans would kick the shit out of precursors and forerunners.
>>332991760
I'm sure you did buddy.
>>332991780
didn't a standard DAOT have a gun that hit an enemy that originally dodged, but the ship just pulled it through spacetime so it got hit?
Orks inevitably beat everyone, it's time to stop.
The time will come when even the Tyranids fall before the Orks.
The Orks would fuck the Flood's and Precursors' shit up.
How far would Madara go in the universe ofyour mom's anus with no condom?
>>332991929
Thanks for the vote of confidence, pal!
>>332991713
>While the Flood is certainly formidable in the Halo universe, in the 40k universe they would just be 'another bug hunt'.
You didn't read the links did you
A high level flood infestation or the precusors pre-turning into the flood would wreck 40k
we are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
>Spartans
Who /odst/ here?
How many Orcs can one space marine kill?
How many Orcs can Master Chief kill?
>inb4 Spartan Locke broke his visor
>mass a large enough force orks
>reality warping powers materialize mork and gork
>dakka consumes the universe
>>332992169
Except the Flood are dead and so are the Precursors
>>332991780
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>>332992108
Where is the rebuttal? All you people have said is "no warhammer wins because it is OP they have OP stuff". I have stated that precursors are basically gods and are timeless. They will continue to be when the universe dies and is reborn. I haven't seen anything out of 40k yet that beats eldritch gods that are nigh unkillable and have been around literally forever. This isn't even an argument..
>>332992169
Do you think logic will get to them man? Seems like they just ignore everything and just continue to spout "warhammer is better because it is OP!".
>>332992218
Here have this.
>>332982554
Adeptus Astartes = Superhuman guardians of the Imperium = Imperial Guard
Imperial Guard = Regular dudes with guns in space = Space Marines.
>>332992169
>have total control over the fabric of realty
but the sources provided state:
>effectively enabled the Flood the power of manipulating reality to an extent through their sheer power of thought
>to an extent
>>332992218
Underrated
>>332987267it still is, that's what makes it so brilliant
>>332992390
i counter with orkz.
fighting the flood would definitely wake gork and mork and by that time it's just goodbye to everything that can fight.
>>332991760
>>332992118
You know, the condescending act only works if we know at least a little about your position or have made an argument to back up, right now you're just a passive aggressive tmblrite.
>>332992169
Kinda like old ones in 40k? The same people who built a sewer system in HELL?
>>332992218
Feet first into hell
>>332986480
>Warhammer 40K is for obnoxious mouthbreathing retards
>but Halo isn't
>>332992108
They couldn't do it with a Titan Sized Warboss in 32M, what makes you think Margaret Thatcher can?
>>332992534
Or perhaps you're projecting. But you hadn't thought of that, huh?
>>332992606
He isn't wrong in that 40k has mouth breathers. But ALL fans of a thing have those.
Of course, somebody will post the "le stop lowering us to your level meme"
>>332992390
Read into Orks, they would wipe the fucking floor with tyranids.
>>332992169
>we are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
Oh look, Old Ones, beings who fit that exact description in 40k, got fucking destroyed by the very beings in 40k.
>>332992537
In lore weren't the C'tan reality warping star gods that the Eldar BTFO? I'd argue that the C'tan are as strong as anything in the Halo universe and they already got shit on.
>>332992697
I'm honestly wondering if you know what that words means, like seriously, how is any of that projecting, either way.
Shouldn't you just make an argument rather than try to win /v/points?
>>332980694
space marines aren't that tall
>>332992823
is that Terminator armor?
>>332992878
>/v/points
You've been here too long.
>>332992169
>We are talking about races that have outlived universes and can create them, have total control over the fabric of realty, and have transcended physical form.
Then where are they
Seems like a good time to post this
>>332992941
A variation of it, yes.
>>332992960
Ok?
>>332992797
>implying the Old Ones died
My head canon is the Nids are their cleaner race to undo their fault in creating the Warp.
>>332993067
>lower right
i only need david bowie, nobody can stop him
>>332993067
Lucifer is literally all you needed.
A Space Marine would literally be able to hear Master Chief's muscles contracting from over a kilometer away.
This fight is a joke, and if you want to see just how much of a joke it is, search for it on Google.
>>332993067
What level Superman? What level Flash? What level Hulk?
If I had a choice, Emperor and Superman Prime. Or "less than an attosecond" flash, but only if he can do that meme time warp shit. Emperor blinks the others out of existence.
>>332992390
>guide a WAAAAAAAAAAGH! toward the Flood
>problem solved
>>332989216
those fucking knee pads are killing me
>>332986480
Heretic
>>332993296
Horus is Lucifer in 40k (well 30k) but Emperor still fucked him up. Emperor is God. Sanguinius is Jesus.
>>332992606
the haloverse is on the complete other end of spectrum
everybody outside of the forerunners are complete jokes
>>332993219
Aren't the Tyranids supposedly running from something outside of the galaxy?
>tfw the scariest motherfuckers are scared of some other motherfuckers
>>332993219
So the Old Ones have just been chilling in another Galaxy?
My headcanon is the Tyranids are the result of a "good" ending for a galaxy.
Total conversion to a singular biological race that can adapt to anything.
>>332993067
Superman and the Emperor. No doubt. Lucifer is just another Chaos god that needs to be purged. Hulk isn't the strongest there is. Flash isn't the fastest there is. Sentry and Thor will get their shit smacked by Supes. And literally who will continue being a literal who.
>>332993067
Lucifer and the fucking Emps beat the shit out of everyone else, who cares.
Space Marines would kill the Spartans. However as someone said a really high level Flood infestation or the Precursors in Halo are extremely high level. They could kill most things in 40K as they've lived through multiple big bangs and Universes. Insanely OP.
War in Heaven-Era Necrons > everything save for the Xelee
Ok after further inspection Flood vs Eldrazi seems like a good match now.
>>332993067
I choose God and the Devil. Sups comes in a very close third.
..is that fucking Naruto or some shit?
>>332986480
You raise a fair point, but let me ask you this.Is there a vidya character that can beat Saitama?
>>332992390
Nigger, do you know how stupid Orkz are.
The Old Ones in wh40k were essentialy Percursors, and they died to fucking Orkz and shit. The only thing stopping the Orz from becoming a absolute infinite legion who can manipulate matter, space and time is the infighting they have, otherwise, they would literally just multiply forever like the absolute bioweapon they are and manipulate everything via the Waagh field.
Your maguffin protected shit tyranids have nothing on Orkz.
>>332993336
i think that's worldbreaker hulk, so pretty strong.
that's not superman prime tho, but you do have the Sentry who's pretty similar.
>>332993483
No. It was hinted at once and then never mentioned again. It's a meme at this point, like "Orks don't get sick because Gork and Mork curbstomped Nurgle after they saw Nurglite Orks". Or "Ork weapon works because they think they do". When in fact it's "Ork weapons work BETTER because they think they do".
>>332993528
It's implied, when the Lizardmen appeared in WHFB, that the Old Ones were trying to start again. Only to realise that Chaos exists in ever dimension, in every existence. Oh and the Orcs in WHFB were from the spaceships of the Old Ones, carried by spores. In essence, they had Ork spores on them, travelled to a new dimension, then brought them with them.
Age of Sigmar is essentially the survivors of WHFB going "Okay, Chaos is going to exist no matter what we do, so our best hope is to kill it in our universe"
>>332993538
If it's Flash "faster than an attosecond" then yes he is. Flash is so fast in some comics, he arrives in a place before he's left.
>>332993067
Emperor and Sentry. I don't know much about the Sentry, but isn't he basically Marvel's attempt at getting a character with a higher power level that Superman?
>>332990818
That's not really true anymore. In the same way the Humans have to hold out for a Psyker horizon to win a bunch of Eldar have foreseen if the Tau last long enough to reach a certain tech threshold they'll go full Golden Age of Humanity tier and be able to survive all the incoming shit.
But GW has a bunch of Eldar being Tauboos for some reason. Fucking Eldrad thinks they're the hope of the universe or some shit
>>332993067
I only needMadara Uchiha
>>332988948
WHAT IF SHE'S FIGHTING ORKZ THEN?!?!
>>332993935
Okay, I wasn't sure if it was just a picture for people to have an idea who it was and I got to choose.
Emperor would just remove the others from existence. So I guess Sentry unless Flash can time warp me other places (also if I have a resistant costume/clothing so he can run with me in his manly arms :3)
>>332993994
yeah, drawback is that he's a druggie.
but emps healing light on him should make everything fine.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Slaughtersong
>>332993963
>"Ork weapons work BETTER because they think they do"
But wasn't that a retcon?
I remember orks being able to use pretty much anything for dakka if they believed it. To the point where if any other race tried to use ork tech or weapons it would just fall apart.
>>332993067
Emperor and Lucifer
Hell Lucifer alone would shit on all of the others
>>332993926
>they died to orks and shit
But that's wrong. They made the orks and the eldar to fight the C'tan, star eating gods prodded into doing something by the necrotyr, and the shiny new necron.
It was the C'tan, who were capable of destroying entire star systems relatively easily, and necrons, armed with what is still the most advanced tech in the setting and immortality, who finally managed to kill the old ones.
>>332993067
FLASH AND LUCIFER
BUT COMIC LUCIFER NOT THAT CSI GUY IN THE TV
>>332993067
Jackie Chan and Jackie Chan
>>332993926
No they didn't. The Orks were the bioweapon of the Old Ones which got out of control when the Old Ones fled. The reason the Old Ones died was they pissed off the Necrontyr, who in turn bargained with C'tan. Then a huge war started, a war the Old Ones were winning. Then the Necrontyr got their new bodies and pushed back, but barely any change happened. Just when shit looked like it was over, the Enslavers appeared and started fucking over the Old Ones in a way the C'tan and Necrontyr couldn't.
So the Old Ones eventually all died or fled. The most supported evidence is they escaped to the WHFB setting.
![eye_artwork_012[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/g6ZSKUy.jpg "eye_artwork_012[1].jpg")
How would guys from E.Y.E fare against a Spees Muhreen?
>>332993420
Lucifer is literally the second most powerful being in existence, even when he had zero powers people and Gods would shit their pants around him
>>332993926
Cite your source buddy. I'm tired of this "It's OP and shieeet!". The old ones are wannabe Precursors, they were nowhere near as powerful. Arguing with warhammer dudes is literally them crying out "Warhammer is OP and way more broken and shit" Without actually providing any sources and ignoring all evidence on the other hand. Face it Warhammer bros Precursors would curb stomp all of your gods, orkz, nids, old ones, demons, and devils. Just look at the facts.
>>332994337
>>332994395
Thank you for being actual lore dudes and pointing out discrepancies.
Does anyone know a character that could beat Commander Farsight?
and I'm not just talking about Commander Farsight, I'm talking about Shas'O Vior'la Shovah Kais Mont'yr of the Farsight Enclave's The Eight, the proclaimed Protege of Puretide, Renounced Traitor of the Greater Good, and Bane of the Greenskins, who wields the Dawn Blade, a sword folded 1000 times with chronophagic alloys that allows it to steal the lifetime of its kills, piloting a customized Red XV8 Crisis Suit equipped with a Hard-wired Target Lock, a Plasma Rifle and a Shield Generator.
>implying Halofags have a chance
Standard weapon for Halo
>The MA5D ICWS is a gas-operated, magazine-fed, automatic assault rifle designed to execute close-quarters combat with lethal efficiency, regardless of hostile counter-op, environmental conditions, or duration of use in the field. The MA5D fires the 7.62 NATO round. Like previous incarnations, the MA5D also contains a built-in ammo counter and compass.
Standard weapon for Space Marines
>The Bolter is a large .75 calibre assault weapon. Whereas conventional solid slugs utilise a propellant charge contained in a casing that forces the bullet down the barrel upon ignition, in contrast, a bolt is self-propelled; it features its own integrated solid fuel propellant that propels the bolt at high speeds, essentially acting like a miniature rocket. Standard Bolter ammunition utilizes a mass-reactive fuze, designed to penetrate the target before detonating within, maximizing damage to the target and leaving little chance for survival.
>>332994172
>kay, I wasn't sure if it was just a picture for people to have an idea who it was and I got to choose.
it's result number 10 or something when googling world breaker hulk, the picture doesn't show up when just googling the hulk, so i assume it's intentional.
also FTL piggyback rides was not part of my plan before but now i think i need it.
>>332991713
>It's not even known how vast the Tyranids are
13 galaxies worth of conquest. This is explicitly stated.
>>332994250
They used to be able to just use a stick and if they believed it shot bullet, it would. Just magically making a stick shoot bullets out of air.
Now, it has to have the shape, trigger and the bullets to actually shoot bullets, no more ridiculous tier shit. In the hands of others, it either doesn't work, barely works and jams a lot or just explodes.
Fuck that.
Touhou vs. 40k
Discuss that.
>>332993067
I would rather trust in Obito to save me against any of these than Madara.
At least he can turtle inside his pocket dimension. Madara can't.
>>332994250
Nope. It's been mentioned in a book as early as last month. Essentially an Ad Mech Biologos opens up an Ork brain and finds that the part of the brain for invention is bigger and there is some part of the brain he isn't sure what is for. But theorizes that it's part of a psychic node. In essence. If you power an Ork weapon in your own hand, it will break. It isn't suppose to work. It defies logic. If you put it in an Ork hand and feed electricity through them, then the weapon will work beyond all reason.
There is a sort of biological imprint and psychic field which keeps their shit from falling apart.
>>332994479
Sheev. The answer is always Sheev
>>332994479
Yeah a SPARTAN!
>>332994479
Abaddon or Kharn would probably slap his shit around.
>>332994476
I shouldn't have to provide the fucking source when google is right fucking there you god damn dickhead, there is an absolutely stupid amount of stuff to read about 40k, i am not going to link every single piece of it just to prove something i and pretty much everybody else already know is right.
>>332994561
>>332982365
none of them should be marines because none of them are boated around by the imperial navy
space =/= ocean
pic related marines should be inside of them
because they're boats
>>332994453
The Emperor would kill Lucifer if you picked him, regardless. The Emperor could defend you from anybody but Power Man.
>>332994425
They are powerfull but nowhere near Speesh Muhreens.
>>332994502
7.62 REAL FUKKEN NATO STRONK
>>332993067
Lucifer > The Emperor > The Sentry > The Flash > Superman > The Hulk > Thor > Madara Uchiha
>>332994685
Well either way, orks are the absolute best race, no one can deny this.
>>332994775
>>332994939
nigger he's immortal
>>332994892
Heresy?
>>332994518
Yeah. Did it ever explain how Flash's eyes don't die when he's running? There is only so much you can 'protect'.
>>332994561
2HU wins because magic and Gods and shit.
>>332994479
Shadowsun. She has the most plot armour in the setting.
>>332994892
Not this shit again. Every time I see that this guy wasted his time on this shit, it hurts that little bit more. Especially when he can draw such awesome shit.
Goddamn these threads everytime manage to make my lorehead cringe when people yell fan theores and just blatant wrong info as a truth
>LE PAPA NURGE ISA GOOD GUY AND SLAANESH IS ALL ABOUT SEXX XDDD
>>332994479
I preferred Farsight when he was just a good commander with a different outlook and a sword
>>332995054
>he did the spin at 0:08
So fucking based
>>332994337
>>332994395
Welp, sorry I got shit wrong, not my intention to misinform.
>>332994476
Hey, I admit being wrong and proven it was, but if you legitimately think that your shit tyranids woudl defeat a endless hoard of time and space altering bioweaponized spores, a endless hoard of immortal Daemons, 4 of the most powerful manifestations of human emotion who have the ability to completely remove anything from existence on a whim, a literal God,a race of nigh indestructible robots with tech so advanced their most basic guns just strip away your molecular composition layer by layer and have a fuckton of time-space altering gods, or hell, if you think your wannabe Tyranids could even outlast the real tyranids in a real fight, then Im sorry pal, but you are just deluded as fuck.
Halo is a good franchise, fun as hell, but WH40k was made for this sort of ridiculous.
>>332995054
I hate this part, simply because of how easily/quickly the two brothers fell apart. Seemingly without anything fucking special from Sheev. It just turned into
>lol, you're actually shit at blade combat, gg
>>332995396
Where in the name of the emperor did people spout them as if they were truth?
Because all i have seen are jokes, which is what they are.
>>332995356
>2HU wins because magic and Gods and shit.
But what happens when I deploy a faction specifically designed to fight Gods and magic?
>>332991261
>Final tier flood have access to precursor technology which is completely indestructable to anything besides Halo rings.
Then why did the precursors lose against the flood?
>>332995356
he has the speed force
all the physics related problems of going sanic fast is negated by it
Nigga going so fast then suddenly picks up a civilian to save him from a falling building and the civilian isn't ripped apart by his sanic speed? Speed Force
Nigga going sanic fast while carrying a civilian but none of them gets burnt by their speed+air friction? Speed Force
>>332989030
Forerunner would solo 40k, kiddo
>>332995356
How the fuck does touhou win.
Explain to me this franchise and their power levels.
>>332995054
How did they manage to make the Clone Wars cartoon better than any other Clone Wars shit?
Original trilogy>Prequels
Clone Wars fluff>OT fluff
>>332994982
Once again. Lucifer was Horus in the story. He was beaten by the Emperor. Emperor is literally God. He was killing the Chaos Gods on his own.
It's Emperor > Lucifer.
>>332995204
So is the Emperor and the Emperor still remove somebody from existence. Horus never existed. Everything. His body, mind and soul, was removed. Not just from the warp or material realm, but from existence. His soul was removed from literal Hell.
>>332995028
They're fun. Need more screen time in Beast Arises.
>>332988172
wow
>>332995691
How do they fuck if they are all such different shapes and body heights.
>>332995550
You get gapped out, your armor rusts, you go crazy, you meet terrible misfortune.
I mean, there's a lot of ways.
>>332994775
>>332995691
>they are huge
So they have huge guts?
>>332990649
Probably shouldn't say things like this on 4chan anon.
>>332995793
you can't warp away God's strongest angel
and Abrahamic God=/=Emperor
>>332994889
Literally no rebuttal, fucks up his own lore, gets angry about being called on his bullshit, and plethora of other reasons. Jesus man if you are going to argue for your side at least make it look convincing and good. Like do you even know how to argue and not shit fling? So far nobody has provided actual evidence to how warhammer 40k would beat the Precursors. Instead I got shit flinging.
>>332995484
Everything you have said has been: done by the precursors, multiply times, and better. Yeah I think my "wannabe Tyranids" would do better than the actual Tyranids of your stupidly powerful universe. You're just salty that Halo of all universes has something that would curbstomp all of warhammer in one go.
>>332995608
Were you paying attention. The Flood are the Precursors.
