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Do you like shootan games, /v/?
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>>332975034
Its okay, its definitly something else, but I just end up semi camping with a rifle all the time.
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>>332975034
do people still play rising storm/RO2 multiplayer?
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>>332975620
Yes
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>>332975034
Heroes of the West is fucking great
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>>332975620
It has more activity than a couple of months ago.
I played quite a lot the last couple of days and there were always at least 10 full or almost full servers.
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>>332975995
Haven't played it yet. Actually just got RS a couple of weeks ago (played RO2 for 2 years already) so I'm mostly playing that.
What's different in HotW?
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>>332975995
It's not bad, but the maps are pretty weak. They're neither visually appealing nor that balanced. They feel like they'd be average RO1/DH community maps. They're not horrible but I don't think they stand up to most of the core RO2/RS maps.
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>>332977185
Give it time Anon. They're working on a lot of different shit right now. At least the maps are better than Day of Infamy in Insurgency.

HotW's D Day beats the shit out of DoI.
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>>332976706
It lets you play the Western Front; i.e, Brits & Americans vs Germans.

The map design is fucking great, they've got some solid stuff already including Omaha Beach and a remake of Carentan from CoD 1. The British feel like a legit faction that was made by the devs. Can't wait for them to add more maps and hopefully vehicle support in the near future. The mod definitely got me back into Ro2/RS2
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>>332975034

I do.

>>332975620

You kidding? The server browser has several full or near full servers 24/7.
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>>332977387
>mfw it has a map in Oosterbeek
aw yiss, time to play in my own country
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>>332977387
>The British feel like a legit faction that was made by the devs
It doesn't take much to make more polish than TW.
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>>332977548
Oosterbeek is literally my favorite map atm, enjoy it mate
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>>332977387
>the map design is fucking great
what
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>>332977965
I like it, besides the fact that Carentan is obviously a little to small for a full server, since it's a CoD map.

It seems every so slightly unbalanced; Germans win 90% of the games I'm in, but that doesn't seem like an issue with the map design imo.
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>>332978238
All the maps are wayyyy too in favor of defenders. That's the only issue I've seen. Your team can play almost perfect but certain caps are near impossible to take.
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>>332978238
Oosterbeek is great but to me it seems Omaha, Carentan, and Port Brest are nearly unplayable half the time.
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>>332978298
Yeah, I completely agree with this. I feel like this is hopefully something that can be fixed with slight tweaks like modifying the ticket counts or something.
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>mfw other /v/irgins probably heard me talking as a TL
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>>332978568
I bet you're that annoying fucker yelling the whole time to get down under the train and shit
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>>332978970
Nah I mostly just tell my team when recon is up, ask for marks and tell people to not fucking run into arty strikes.
I try not to sound like an annoying faggot but I'm not a native english speaker so I have some confidence issues when speaking in online games.
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>>332978328
I think a lot of it is due to their primitive nature. Carentan has a ton of sharp corners that attackers have no choice but to smoke and brute force your way through. A lot of the other maps are just open areas with a couple low-detail farmhouses with lots of windows acting as the cap points. Would have been okay in games from years past, but they lack variety and progression as well as being stacked towards defenders.

I'm glad people are excited about this mod, but this release feels like something that should have come out 2013-14.
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>>332979262
Whenver I play CO and ask for marks no fucker puts them so I have to put them myselves. I swear people play SL just to get the automatic guns.
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>>332978452
Didn't they update it just yesterday?
https://steamcommunity.com/games/RO2/announcements/detail/834663980226548501
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>be SL, defendan on Demyansk
>first cap almost taken
>rush in, shoot a dude in the face, throw a nade to kill another
>get some guys to spawn on me
>managed to tip the balance just in time
>place 10/10 mark for TL to use
>he does
>hold on to first 2 caps for 10 minutes
>cockblock them from capping the rest of the map with awesome team
jesus fuck that felt great
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>>332979262
Whats your steam friend?
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>>332979661
There seems to be a lot of level 20-30 SLs out there and not enough server admins available or willing to remove ineffective squad leaders. I think the problem is that it's a difficult role for new players (it seems many of them have decided that SL is their role despite not even knowing how to be a rifleman) and more experienced players don't take it because it's really not that rewarding unless you're good enough to play aggressively and not die.

I see a lot of lot of newbie SLs spending minutes at a time sitting in spawn and looking at stuff with binoculars but they wouldn't know a good mark even if they could see one.
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>>332980628
Tell me, what makes a good SL?
I'm level 20 in RS myself (75 in RO2). My style when playing SL is to try to rush into/behind cap zones with smoke and shit and then lay low so my squad can spawn on me. Occasionally I can get a shot in but I usually end up with just a couple of kills.
And of course try to place good marks all the time.
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>>332981002
Get as close to cap zones as you can without putting yourself in extreme danger. Your number one is to serve as a spawn point for your squad. Good game sense is important so you know what orders to give your squad and always have a mark up when your TL needs it.
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>>332981293
>giving orders
Oh yeah, I need to start doing that.
No match feels better than a well-coordinated match.
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>>332981002
That's pretty much it. The most important qualification, in my opinion, is map knowledge. You need to know the safe hidey-holes in the cap and how to reach them without exposing yourself to too much fire.

It's also important to know how players are going to move. I was playing Peleliu as attackers the other day and our (high level) squad leader was sitting in A when B needed to be capped. People could run laterally to B, but they usually don't. The players he spawned just tried to progress further down the map and we lost.

Honor level is obviously not the whole story when it comes to the skill of a squad leader but the low level guys don't have the map knowledge more experienced players have.
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>>332981002
Throw smoke
Mark targets
Get close enough to cap zones while still not being in danger.

That's literally it. Actually fighting is not your job, unless you're just defending yourself.
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>>332975034
>game is populated by /pol/ in the flesh
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>>332981979
I love the arguments between fascists and communists over public voice chat
Enhances the atmosphere
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>>332975995
Heroes of the west is cool but the maps seem like they were made by people who have never played a single game of Red Orchestra in their entire life.

>>332977364

>HotW's D Day beats the shit out of DoI.

I never thought I would say it but the beach on Omaha beach is literally too big.
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>japanese win
>HO HO HO HO HO HO HO in the mic

I don't get it
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What servers does /v/ play on mostly?
I usually go for an almost full one with low ping but playing with you fags might be a bit more fun.
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Time to dump my old webms i guess
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>>332982293
>Japanese win
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>332982478

>tfw no more south-american servers for me to play with no ping at 60fps

i miss playing this game so much god damn it
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>>332982656
Why is it that whenever I try to be an epic badass like this I ALWAYS get rekt?
I've been playing for hundreds of hours. What must I do to not get my anus torn apart in this game?
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>>332982478
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>>332982176
yeah na, everytime i hear an autist on the mic with a fucking lisp i want to commit soduku
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>>332982876
Having a good pair head phones and recognizes the types of shots in your near vicinity help.
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>>332982876

Well lets say that was a combination of luck + knowing the map and spawn points + a little bit of aiming, not much really

Also i was playing that game almost 24/7 when the only argie server existed and when the free weekend came i was raping newcomers left and right
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>>332982876
git gud and luck. Also having a disorganized enemy team is always a plus.
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>>332983219

not really the one i wanted to post
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>>332983210
>mfw playing with music on and without headphones
May not have been the best idea :^)
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>>332983219
>>332982876
Additionally, understanding the best routes of interest attackers/defenders. I feel like these are more apparent in Rising Sun. After 50+ hours, I am still horrendous at the Russian/German campaign.
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>>332982876
Pick up the opposing sides smg
Reload it
Hit a cap point from the extreme flank

You are now a stone cold killa son.
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>>332983464

Don't know why but i never managed to get into rising storm the same way i did with the German/Russian campaign
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>>332983464
I dunno, some maps in RS are complete clusterfucks. Sometimes I don't even know what side I'm supposed to get attacked from.
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>>332981002
Experience, I would say don't take SL until you are at least level 30 and have played every other role barring commander. You will pick up on things about being a good squad leader as get more experienced and then you can mix it into your own play.
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>>332983421
>Not wanting to hear the screams of your fallen bretheren/enemies or bullets whiz by your head.
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>>332982630
>that one guy making cat noises every time he kills a jap
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>>332983604
Holy shit why did I never think of that?
But then you still have your guy yell out like a retard when trying to be sneaky in enemy territory which kinda defeats the point.
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I'm just dumping for those who never played this game, you're missing out a hidden gem from the FPS genre
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>mfw started to play as SL jsut to get automatic gun but then realised that i get more points by camping infront of obj and be spawn machine/arty marker.

SL is easy life and points. I would recomend to all new players to try sl. Fuck all those max lvl players who does not have the balls to play sl but sure knows how to cry about bad squad leaders.
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>>332983807
Oh I do, I have the music turned down so I still hear the game alright. But the fine details like footsteps drown in the music.
Who the hell plays RS/RO2 without hearing the grueling death cries?
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>>332983834
Your guy does not make any sound unless you are exhausted, wounded or being suppressed.
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I fucking love the bleed-out thing this game has
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>>332983705
I guess more the more urban environments throw me off. I'm always getting spooked by allies in buildings.
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>"Is that you, ma? I just fell off the tractor, is all..."
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>>332983824
>Glorious Nippon victory
>OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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Anyone excited for Rising Storm 2?
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>>332984009
Its not as big a deal in eastern front

But if you take SL in RS and dont know what you are doing your team will lose almost every time from lack of recon and no forced spawn pushing.
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Well i think that was enough dumping for today.

Enjoy your low ping servers while you still have them, anons
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>>332984453
Kinda. I just got RS though so I hope the release of RS2 doesn't kill RS/RO2, as I plan to keep on playing for quite a while.
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>>332984453
Yes. Can't wait for napalm strikes. I don't know if it's been confirmed but I feel like they're going to have TL perform them. I'm also interested in seeing how the game plays out with everyone having automatic and semi-auto weapons.
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>>332984541
Sl is not TL.

I agree that new players should not pick TL if they dont know what to do. If the new player wants to really learn the TL and read guide or something then sure.
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I've heard their releasing one that takes place in Vietnam, haven't followed it much but it is a pretty cool setting. When does it release if it hasn't already
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>>332984219
>dude hits me in the leg from 50m away
>turn around and start shooting at him
>turns out we both can't shoot for shit
>keeps shooting at me and missing
>empty 2 MP40 mags in his direction
>finally manage to drop him
>casually apply bandage and continue my business as usual
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>>332984386
>japan loses
>MY EMPEROR IVE FAIIIIILED YOOOOO
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>>332984876
Yeah all the automatic weapons are definitely going to feel different. It looks like they're going to have pretty high recoil though, so hopefully you'll have to use burst fire and control your shots
http://media.tripwirecdn.com/031116/akrecoil.webm

>>332985034
Yeah, Rising Storm 2. There's a few trailers for it on youtube. It's still in alpha right now, no idea when the release date is
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>>332977387
>The map design is great
Are you having a giggle? It's some of the worst map design I've seen. The only remotely playable map is Oosterbrek.
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>heroes of stalingrad had better music
>heroes of stalingrad had a better menu
>heroes of stalingrad had better maps
>heroes of stalingrad had more balanced teams
>heroes of stalingrad had tank or mixed infantry maps
heroes of stalingrad was simply a better game.
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Still mad I didn't get RS for free when I already had RO2 before you got both when buying either.
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>>332985487
Son have you played Arad?

Its terrible and no one wants mixed battles ever again.
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>>332986013
I played it once and it was terrible, but at least there's the option to have mixed maps.
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>>332984453

>reverse search image
>nothing

Woah woah woah, is there a beta or something that I don't know about?
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>>332986013
A couple of tanks and vehicles are fine, as long as it's in (strong) moderation.
Arad fucking sucks, yes, but the tanks in the more conventional maps add greatly to the complexity and fun.
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>>332984453
so no sl or im missing something? Or is it someting like that who creates a squad is the leader of that squad?
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>>332986387

>Commander class

There's your SL
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>>332986483
That's TL, anon.
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>>332986213
I just grabbed it from the Tripwire forums. Every few weeks they'll post webm's and pictures of the game. The most recent post was showing off some of the menus

>>332986387
According to the Forums:

>Any player is able to choose a role and create or join a squad (or choose not to, except for the team commander)
>The creator of the squad can name, lock and invite others to the squad
>As the squad fills up, we are looking at the squad leader being granted more squad tools and functions
>Players will be rewarded (score) most for helping their squad.
>Their squad’s accomplishments will also be highlighted in the new scoreboard with players grouped and ranked by their squads.
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>>332986483
1 squad leader who is team leader as well?
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>>332984219
I just wish the flamethrower had something similar so it wasn't just lmao it touched you for half a second drop your gun and fall over
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>>332985332
Yeah I figured as much. It looks like the M16 has better accuracy but less rounds in the mag. Can't wait.
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I never know how far to aim in front of people that are moving from a distance and always miss because of it.
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>>332986609
all those marksman squads camping.
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>>332986609
>>Their squad’s accomplishments will also be highlighted in the new scoreboard with players grouped and ranked by their squads.
That's neat, encouraging more squad based gameplay
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>>332975034
yes, they are my favourite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0eX6XKiqFo

> WW2 germany wins
> a WW1 song starts playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P50Ssto3iPM
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>>332986635
Look mate, if a mk2 flame thrower went anywhere near you, you died.
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Who was that guy who played MG in heroes of stalingrad and would play it like an assault class and hip fire it everywhere? He had a bunch of videos.
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>>332986965
the Konigratzer Marsch is an 1866 song
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>>332986965
>battlefield
This is an RS/RO2 thread breh
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>>332987380
if you think so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vin1X0p3eHA
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Can you one shot a tank though?
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>>332988389
Hot damn
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>>332988389
yes if you hit ammo but you need to know where to shoot. You can also shoot 100 times to front armor doing nothing.
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>>332988778
Why is the russian tank so shit? You can literally shoot the driver and gunner through the front plate with a standard rifle
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Machine Gunner here, I got your back bro, even with the shitty japanese gun.
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>>332988389
if I hit right between the turret and the body, yes I can
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>>332989235
I have a lot of time in the game and probably hundreds of hours in the T-34 and I've never once seen or heard of this happening.
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>>332989550
Type 99 is a very good LMG, especially once you unlock the scope.
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>>332975995
>>332977387
how the fuck do you even install that shit, and is anyone even playing atm?
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>>332989878
Go to the HOTW page on Steam, click install. Run it once from the games library and then join a server. There's almost always one populated server right now.
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I don't know the differences between the various artillery types
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>that poor commander who had his voice relentlessly shit on
It wasn't even that bad.
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>>332990590
mortar is the smallest area but lasts a while
naval bombardment and artillery are the same I think, medium area, medium duration
commie rockets are just one salvo, but hit a big area and penetrate underground
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>>332990590
Cooldown and availability depend on map, but in general:
Mortars have the shortest cooldown. They fire 6 salvos in rapid succession that densely covers a 25m area.
Artillery fires 6 salvos with a short pause between each salvo, that sparsely covers a 50m area. If you sit within the area, you may not be killed by the first salvo, but you will not survive the entire barrage.
Rockets/naval have the longest cooldown and fire one large salvo that densely covers a 75m area

In general, artillery is the best choice, since it provides the greatest area denial. You'd use mortars on maps where the cooldown is significantly shorter than artillery, or when you need to call it extremely close to your own men. Rockets/naval is extremely situational, generally when there isn't enough time for all six salvos to complete or when you there's 15+ enemies out in the open.
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>>332990590
Mortars
>Low power
>Low area of coverage
>Highest number of salvos
>Shortest Cooldown

Howitzers
>Medium power
>Medium area of coverage
>Fewer salvos than mortars
>Longer cooldown than mortars

Naval
>High power
>Huge cunting area of coverage
>One salvo
>Longest cooldown
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>>332989765
Compared to the rest of LMGs in the game? No way dude. Not enough ammo, inaccurate as fuck, terrible ironsights.
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>>332986013

arad isn't bad if you just reserve the APCs for SLs and their squads. You're a goddamn moron if you try walking between points, though.
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>>332991493
The magazine size is a fair consideration, but at least it reloads fast. It is very accurate and long as you fire in short bursts, better single shot accuracy than the Browning 1919. The iron sights don't really matter, since you can get a scope. It may not have the best reticle, but it's still an LMG with a scope. Is it better than the MG-42? No, but there's really nothing that can compare to the MG-42.
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British MG is fucking awful.
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>tfw prefer the MG-34 but can't use because I'd be gimping myself
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>>332992470
The DP-28 is great too. The japanese LMG isn't complete shit, it's just worse than every other LMG in the game.
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>>332979661
what game is that?
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>>332975034
I like all FPS tbqh
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>>332993310
Japanese mgs > DP28

I even take it over the american mg in several occasions since they are really accurate and the scope gives them great range.

German MGs are the best by far, though.
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