>Corecraft launchs April 15!
Why no one talking about it?
Hype
Wtf, no one cares about Corecraft here?
>>332959695
>1995 graphics
>memecraft naming scheme
Why should I even care?
>>332959695
What does it have that nostalrius doesn't
>>332960280
TBC
>>332960332
Nostalrius will have tbc soon. And you can transfer your character to it from vanilla.
>>332959695
I'm glad we're getting more BC servers since it looks like it has the least quality amount of servers out of the first 3 WoWs.
Is there any reason to believe that Corecraft wont be a fucking mess of buggy mechanics just like every other private server?
Cuz has been talking about Core like it's the savior of private servers but I don't see why.
>>332960280
corecraft won't have RMT chinks because they don't donation bribes from them
>>332959695
Nice source
>>332960907
chek the forums nigga
I give no fucks about TBC.
Hellground exists
Why should I give a fuck?
>>332961087
>Why should I give a fuck?
This one won't be full of polish pizdas
>vanilla private servers
L O L
>>332960970
>check the forums
>nothing on the forums
Nice source.
>private servers
lmaoing at your lifes, kids
I've been playing freeshards before TBC.
I had my own local server with bots and admin commands.
I've seen all armor sets from vanilla, tbc, wotlk, and i've seen all major raid bosses and killed them solo using cheats.
WOW is a game which was always low on content and the only thing that saved it was insane grind.
And PVP in this game just sucks.
>playing vanilla/tbc
aka the second to worst WoW experiences.
wow cant wait!!!!
>>332961785
So you experienced nothing? gg
>>332959695
You are one day late, retard
>>332960280
Shop on the site, I'm serious
>>332961785
I beat all Megamans without dying e z with godmode gg
>TBC
It's shit.
>not wotlk
Into trash it goes
>>332964907
Why the fuck would anyone want to play that
>>332959695
Because it's April 15th 2020.
That's 4 years away.
wtf is Corecraft?
>>332960601
it's been in the making for years. its not just some pre-packed wow-emu that some 12 year old put together.
google it if you care
>>332961785
>played an mmo by himself
>the game lacks content
you are this retarded
>>332964907
>>332964954
WoW's pvp wasn't truly balanced until Wrath except for DKs obviously.
I hate Wrath otherwise mainly because 3.3 was the nail in the coffin for a lot of reasons.
>>332960280
Devs that actually fix bugs.
Nost has hundreds of bugs that have been there since launch. At the moment, their bug tracker has 3854 issues. 1337 of them have been marked as invalid or duplicate, leaving roughly 2500 potential bugs. 438 of these have been fixed. Over 2000 of them are yet to be fixed.
>>332962012
http://strawpoll.me/1091799/r
really? according to everyone else it was the second best
>>332965997
>vanilla's at the bottom
I don't like Vanilla but I'm calling bullshit.
>>332965997
>vanilla 5%
How old were the people answering this poll?
>>332965997
Jesus Christ, all those wrath babies.
The setting was fine, the lore, DK too, but damn, the start and end of the expansion was so fucking shit.
TBC still is the best for me, has everything.
>>332965945
the only reason nostalrius is so successful was because it got hyped at the perfect time, around when retail WoW ship literally started sinking. Around the time when blizzard stopped sharing sub numbers because they got so low, around the time when legion was announced with more pruning, which made every class cry and contributed massively in the butchering of the game we all loved and played for 10 years.
GG blizz. Nostalrius appreciates it.
your player base doesn't.
>vanilla
near perfect
>TBC
still good
>beginning of LK
the fuck is this shit, i guess it's ok
>end of LK
FUCKING HORRIBLE
>cat
Worst game ever, dropped
Because i played TBC 10 years ago why do i need to go back
>>332961785
Actually turning WoW into a single player game sounds interesting. I wonder if you could somehow get bots as other party members (mercenaries) and do raids by yourself...
I imagine you'd have to either dumb down the boss fights or make the bots uneffected by AOE mechanics...
>>332966834
>FUCKING HORRIBLE
i stopped playing at the end of bc
i watched the ending cutscene where arthas dies and the burnt guy takes over and says there always must be a LK and never return again.
i thought that cutscene was pretty cool.
why was the end of wrath bad? what was wrong with it
>>332966873
people have done this without bots and with multiboxing programs instead. pretty interesting
>>332966834
>cata is worse than any part of wotlk
No, just no
Most of people who left during start of wotlk returned for the first 2 tiers of cata raids
>>332959695
>no source
>website hasn't been updated in two months
wew lad
>>332967181
A lot of people return for the start of an expansion, thinking it might make the game better. People dropped cata like a hot potato a few months after. My whole guild did too.
>>332966834
>vanilla
>anywhere near perfect
I'M LAFFIN' REEL GUD NOW, M8
>>332967414
> People dropped cata like a hot potato a few months after. My whole guild did too.
Mostly wotlk kids who dropped wotlk during year of no content
People who dropped wotlk earlier and wanted proper wow played until ds
Burned myself out while playing on Kronos.
While I would like to enjoy endgame dungeons, raids and some PvP once more, I'm not going through the pain of leveling another character.
Also probably an april's joke.
>>332967627
>People who dropped wotlk earlier and wanted proper wow played until ds
[citation needed]
WoW lost 2 million subs between the release of cata and ds.
>>332966834
mmmm das nostalgia goggles.
>>332959695
Sauce? Website gives nothing.
>>332967145
This.
Whenever my friends and I still visited our local LAN center when it was still around, the main guy was multiboxing 5 different Druids and doing just fine.
He had an insane setup, and even bound voice activated commands to each individual Druid.
I haven't hung out with him in a while.. I hope you're doing good Tony
>There are people on the same kenyan claymation board as you who didn't think Mists of Pandaria was the best expansion.
>>332959695
so i guess playtbc pressure finally made these fags release their fucking game instead of keep it in development hell for another 5 years
>>332966124
>>332966139
Classic is trash. Every expansion has brought improvements but the only reason wow is crashing is because the mmo elements aka social apsects of the game have been slowly removed over time. It's purely nostalgia when people reminisce about classic.
>>332966834
People claim each expansion is trash but can't list why, convenient.
>wanting to do the same content
>over
>and
>over
>and
>over
>and
>over
>with no way in hell of getting new content
Seriously why? That has to be worse than hell
>>332970338
Wrath was.
>>332966834
It's so easy to spot people who never actually played vanilla. It was not even close to perfect and was only acceptable because of the community but the mechanics were such garbage.
>>332966124
Classic isn't an expansion so that makes sense.
>>332970982
Arbeit macht frei.
>>332966834
>near perfect
>Paladins only have one decent spec (healing)
>Druids only have one decent spec (healing)
>Shamans only have one decent spec (healing)
TBC fixed most of vanillas problems.
>>332959695
It will be dead within a month.
>>332971110
>druids
>healing
they were innervate/battle rez bots not even worth using as healers
>tfw read /v/ like a book
formulaic angsty contrarians
>>332970338
>introduced the worst zone in the game other than Draenor
>introduced the worst race in the game and brought even more furfaggots in than the Worgen did
>introduced a shitty class nobody asked for
>LFR
MoP was cancer.
>>332971239
Still better then Feral or Balance.
>>332971031
>>332959695
>April 15
nothing on the official site.
poort attempt at aprils fools, considering you're a day late.
>>332959695
Where are you getting this release date because corecraft website isn't saying shit.
>>332971308
All opinion and LFR existed in cata
>>332971239
You never actually played vanilla, right?
After mid vanilla patch remade their talent tree, they and shamans were the most desirable healers
>>332971110
What's a problem? It was just like every good mmo
While I can agree what bc was best expack, there nothing wrong with having not great specks
And both ret pals(not sure about this one, played as the horde) and moonkins have their niche during naxx raiding
Why do people like LFR?
Are they so casual that they just never leave the city? Did they also pay to have their toon be max levelled?
What is even the point
>>332971626
>After mid vanilla patch remade their talent tree, they and shamans were the most desirable healers
oh man like clockwork that one butthurt druid shows up trying to make it look like anyone used him
>>332959695
>Many Vanilla questing events, such as escorting NPCs do not work.
Who cares about Vanilla end-game? It's the Vanilla questing that makes people install shit like this.
>>332971637
>Why do people like LFR?
Why do humans take the path of least resistance?
Everyone knows lfr is garbage but it's too late to remove it, it'd be like removing welfare. There would be massive chimp outs.
>>332971753
>Going out of your way to do escort quests
PUKE
>>332971637
People got pissed that they can't get a full set of epic gear because they have neither the time, commitment, or general intelligence to get into an actual raid team.
>>332967051
>why was the end of wrath bad? what was wrong with it
"there must always be... a lich king!" is retardation.
also, towards the end of wrath, blizzard introduced the LFD tool which single-handedly killed off local server communities and neutered the social aspect of the game.
>>332971710
>wotlk kid who never played during vanilla thinks it's okay to spread his bullshit
Everytime
>>332970338
I agree MoP was a really nice expansion, SoO was a shit show however. Everything except for that I would say that it was 7/10 better than cata/vanilla
I played during vanilla and all expansions, and I think WOTLK was by far the best, even though the tail end of it was kind of bad, it was still better than the others.I think this mostly because I'm a ret paladin, and a huge lore whore as well.
>>332971637
>Why do people like LFR?
>I WURK 20 HOUR A DAY BLIZZ AND HAVE TO MIND MY 30 KIDS FOR 3 HOURS OF DUH DAY, IT IS NOT FAIR THAT I CAN'T SEE CONTENT THAT "hardcore" RAIDERS BE SEEING, AS A PAYING CUSTOMER US CASUAL PLAYERS SHOULD GET TO SEE RAIDS TOO XD
Normalfags with lives ruined wow anon, they are the type that will buy crap from the store while wow original player base got bored of the game due to Blizzards fuck ups.
>>332959695
>CORECRAFT
HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT THE DAY WOULD NEVER COME
YES
>>332967627
>>332968018
cata did so many things, it managed to piss of everyone
>literally destroy azeroth, making lots of oldfags mad and quit the game
>dungeons are hard again, making lots of spoiled wrathbabbies quit the game
>devs are lazy and dont deliver enough content in patches, making powergamers quit the game
>blizzards introduces LFR, pissing off the 'muh hardcore experience' crowd and making them quit the game
>they release dragon soul, the worst raid ever created, making dedicated raiders quit the game
pretty much EVERY kind of player got shafted by something in cataclysm.
>>332972545
>dungeons are hard again
For a month.
>>332972254
This is actually disgusting.
Ruins any anticipation or motive to actually see the next boss/raid in person.
I would say twitch/youtube had a profound impact on the game, for the worse.
>>332972545
>making lots of oldfags mad and quit the game
False
>devs are lazy and dont deliver enough content in patches, making powergamers quit the game
False
>blizzards introduces LFR, pissing off the 'muh hardcore experience' crowd and making them quit the game
False
>>332972545
Early cata was pretty good, I liked the twilight highlands. The disappointments only began later.
>>332972545
why was dragon soul so bad again? I liked it, though the riding on deathwing's back part required no retards allowed
>>332972773
Because mary sue green jesus thrall shows up at the end to steal all the glory and act like he did everything when in reality all he did was hold up a shiny disc while everyone else did all the hard work.
Burning Crusade without flying mounts
Vanilla with rated arenas
These would have been pure, perfect World of Warcraft.
Everything else was shit.
>>332972682
>I would say twitch/youtube had a profound impact on the game, for the worse.
Meh the game was already terminal at this point. The stake through wow's heart was cross realm shit, LFG should have just been a server only thing, everybody became a real bastard afterwards.
If I were to blame someone I would blame Activision even though they claim they have no involvement in wow which is obvious crap since the game took a nose dive and the store opened just after the merger.
>>332972675
False
Even after nerfs(and most of nerfs were removing aggro system, because it was too hard for the wotlk kids, and returning mana res to the wotlk level) it was still full of instant death abilities
>>332972773
It wasn't
It was just worse than heroic ragn, aka best boss battle in wow history at that time
Most of /v/ should care about it, because I doubt that they even killed him at normal
Oh and let's not forget year of no content
>>332972981
Oh yes, i hate this fucking green nigger as well. Was there anything wrong with the raid itself though? Mechanics and other stuff
>>332972683
what do you disagree with?
lots of people were (and still are) sad about losing all the old zones that they had known and loved since vanilla.
cata also delivered far less content in patches than any previous expac did. objective fact. people started calling blizz out on this laziness as early as 4.1.
and LFR was harshly rejected and criticized by lots of players.
>>332972692
i loved early cata, too. first raid tier (bwd, bot, tot4w) was super good, and the early cata 5mans were the most fun i ever had in 5man dungeons in wow.
>>332973017
>vanilla
>rated arenas
>vanilla
>vanilla pvp balance
I don't think so, Tim.
It was bad enough in BC where you had to play either a mage, a rogue, a warrior, or a druid to get anywhere near high rating.
>>332972773
It alright but it got it's bad name because it was last bit of content for a year until MOP came out, people were just sick of it.
>>332973132
Not that I can immediately remember, I think its biggest problem was the fact that we had NOTHING BUT dragon soul for a year or more.
>>332973163
PvP balance has never existed in a form where retards like you wouldn't have cried about it. Balance was decent enough in Vanilla and there's no harm in an option/avenue like rated arenas for people who like it.
>>332972773
>why was dragon soul so bad again?
rehashed location, rehashed boss models, rehashed everything. fights were ok except for deathwing. spine was shit and madness was super shit.
i cleared dragon soul hc roughly 2 months after release, and i probably would have had more fun just farming rag hc instead of progressing on the shitshow that was madness.
not to mention the completely retarded storyline
>time travel to get a super weapon for green jesus so he can literally kamehameha deathwing out of the sky
god it was so dumb
>>332973328
Balance was absolutely garbage in vanilla in every single fashion.
Enhancement was useless.
Ret was useless.
Arcane was useless beyond PoM.
Warriors were useless.
I could go on.
TBC still had balance problems, especially with hybrids were druids were way too fucking strong, and paladins and shamans were still too weak, but it was a hell of a lot better than vanilla.
Best PvP balance in all of WoW was achieved in WoTLK. It was still flawed, but it had less flaws than BC/Vanilla, my only complaint was that DKs were OP at the start before they got nerfed.
>>332973603
>Enhancement was useless.
>Ret was useless.
>Arcane was useless beyond PoM.
>Warriors were useless.
LOL
you're beyond clueless, stop posting
>>332972254
what I don't get is that getting into raiding is easier now than ever but people still insist that LFR is a necessity.
I mean shit, just join a normal mode raid group, its going to be the same amount of work and effort you put into LFR anyways just with less clinically retarded people in your team.
>>332973081
Most of the actually difficult fights were nerfed pretty hard.
Examples:
>Beauty now spawns with only two pups in Heroic difficulty.
> Valiona's Devouring Flame damage has been reduced by 20%.
>Baron Ashbury
>Sadly, in his hubris he has forgotten how to Mend Rotten Flesh.
It didn't take long for the heroics to become completely facerolls.
>>332973652
You cannot seriously tell me that you thought any of those four examples were anywhere near good in vanilla.
You should take your own advice.
>tfw 250 ms on nostalrius
kill me
>>332973652
>I never played vanilla
>>332972545
>dungeons are hard again
Why is there even the idea that dungeons were ever hard before? When I ran BC dungeons within 2 days my tank was taking off his gear because he couldn't get enough rage to hold threat off us. I didn't play wrath on release date so I can't say how hard they were in the first few days
>>332973163
Mages weren't good after S2.
Rogue, priest, h druid, sl/sl lock and end game hunters all enjoyed E Z mode in pvp.
>>332973706
LFR is a necessity for the type of people who want to join, play for an hour on piss easy difficulty then drop out.
This is the type of person LFR appeals too, they usually do not do the whole raid in one sitting they join LFR, do a boss, leave, come back later, do the bosses they did not do.
The find normal mode difficulty to hard and the group finder thing too much of a bother.
LFR was a mistake, they should have brought out the system you got in wod which would have made cross server pugging a thing.
>>332973840
>Warriors were shit
>Enh Shaman were shit
>Rets were shit
>Arcane Mages were shit
Why pretend you know what you're talking about when you actually have no clue? Who are you trying to impress? What are you trying to prove by lying on an anonymous imageboard?
>>332973915
>Why is there even the idea that dungeons were ever hard before?
because they simply were.
heroic shattered halls or heroic arcatraz were brutal. then in wrath you just spammed aoe at every pull and nuked bosses within 10 seconds.
wrath heroics were absurdly undertuned. cata reversed that flaw, which enraged a lot of scrubs.
>>332973141
>lots of people were (and still are) sad about losing all the old zones that they had known and loved since vanilla.
False, it's just /v/ and wolk kids meme
oldfags demanded changes and continiuning quest story since fucking vanilla in this zones
After wotlk ruined everything with removing class quests and fucking up stat balance, everyone just stopped caring about old content, because you could kill things with 1 spell even without heirlooms anyway
And surprisingly "Muh old great content" meme become popular only at the end of cata
>cata also delivered far less content in patches than any previous expac did. objective fact. people started calling blizz out on this laziness as early as 4.1.
Yes and no
Cata itself was the most content rich expack in the history of wow, just count all zones that were remade
4.1 wasn't raid patch, but mostly because only few guilds fucking finished past raid content. Doesn't mean it didn't had content.
4.2 was one of best patches in the wow
End of time sucked
>and LFR was harshly rejected and criticized by lots of players
Most of people complained because it was too hard.
This is why mop lfr was more wotlk style
But after first week I never touched or cared about it, so I give you that
>>332974128
I know you're just trying to bait but please pick a different topic to do so under.
Absolutely everyone who has played even one minute at 60 in vanilla knows that beyond getting an incredibly lucky HoJ proc double swing + 2 command procs all of which crit, Ret did almost nothing in pvp.
Reckoning is fun but hardly reliable.
Something I've always wondered, did Alliance even have a bloodlust in vanilla?
>>332974128
You need to understand that you talk with people who only heard about vanilla from wotlk age memes
So sometimes we got great jokes like "Only priests were viable healers", just demand proof that they played during vanilla(screen of sub history with timestamp) or ignore them
>Enhancement Shaman were useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6eIet7QRpo
>Warriors were useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGBnjELkgok
>Arcane Mages were useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I990hhDXuBI
>Ret Paladins were useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-xfuk7VxyQ
Except they fucking weren't useless. They were all norotiously good in PvP. You actually picked some of the best specs in the game at the time to claim were totally inviable and made yourself look like an incompetent retard.
Nice job
im hyped whatever
>>332974128
You've watched a bit too many pvp videos.
>>332974452
No, just like horde
>>332966873
Yes. There is something called The Single Player Project.
My only issue is that battlegrounds don't work andd bot AI breaks on it.
>>332974523
And just as I made this post, this happens >>332974503
Not very surprising.
>>332966834
>>vanilla
>near perfect
Holy shit, did you even PLAY vanilla WoW? The Druid class was barely functional
Healers wore green items to MC because the stat distribution on dungeon blues and even tier 1 was so bad
There were a million problems with Vanilla that took a long time to get patched, like not having any DR on CC in PvP
>>332974578
Shamans had no bloodlust in vanilla?
>>332959695
My heart skipped a beat you fuckwad. Kill yourself nigger
>>332974503
>literally all videos are fully BiS geared fully consumable fully buffed pvpers hitting people with less gear, without buffs, and without consumables
>ret video is literally 'soak 1 damage crits from npcs then unleash a reckoning on one guy'
I don't think so, Tim.
>>332974163
Never had any issues with shattered halls and arcatraz in my guild group though we weren't scrubs. Had to run arcatraz a tonne too for my stupid fist weapon that would never drop.
It's been the same in other expansions as well, first few days the dungeons can be moderately challenging though any issues are rare, 2 days later nobody is using cc and just rushing everything. Wait a week for all the scrubs to start hitting max level and suddenly lfg turns into a nightmare
>>332974702
No
Now just like I said
Fuck off wotlk kid and take your epic memes with you
>>332974702
Correct. Bloodlust\Heroism was added in BC
>there are people in this thread who legitimately, and unironically, think Wotlk was the best WoW expansion and better than BC
>>332974821
retard
>>332974897
It was
>>332974232
you're completely right about cata launch. it had a ton of content, and even more was promised for future patches.
remember abyssal maw? we were supposed to get a raid there and find out what happens to neptulon after ozumat steals him away.
but nope, it was scrapped.
4.1 was rehashed content.
4.2 was firelands. great raid, great bosses. rag hc was the best fight i ever experienced. but still - only 7 bosses. that's merely half of what a proper raid tier has! ulduar had double the amount of content!
4.3 - just shit. 8 bosses (not nearly enough for a whole tier), 6 of them rehashed models, all in a rehashed environment. and the DW fights were just plain annoying. while firelands at least had delivered top quality, this was just shit.
>most people complained because it was too hard
are we even talking about the same thing here? peopel afk'd their way through lfr from day one. and being forced to do it because the trinkets and tier set pieces that dropped were super good was horrible design.
>>332974851
>Never had any issues
>guild group
Well, yeah. A group of 5 nose breathers all working together could handle most of the BC heroics without too much issue, provided the right tactics were used (CC, interrupts, kill orders, etc. as appropriate).
Then in WOTLK, a pure pickup group could easily clear every heroic doing nothing but AOE spamming. See the difference?
>>332974470
It's not that priests were the only viable healers, it's that people THOUGHT priests were the only viable healers, so they'd stack raids with priests and take 1 druid, 1 resto shaman/paladin, and the rest priests
Elitist Jerks, reliable DPS meters, logging websites and so on didn't exist or were in their infancy, at the start of MC and really even into BWL, there was no science for how people determined results
>CoreCraft opens
>all Chinese from Nostalrius flock over to it
>torn between shitty draw distance and chinks
>>332974983
>>332975118
This people never go past MC and maybe bwl
Everyone fucked stacked druids and shamans in the aq and naxx raids, even blue ones in the aq40 case. It was normal to have only 1-2 priests for this raids, 3 if it was GM's girlfriend or gay friend
>>332974503
>arcane mage
>pom pyro
okay kid
>>332974851
>2 days later nobody is using cc and just rushing everything.
That's a fucking lie. For most of TBC even past Karazhan and Swishy Wishy Lady Vashj and Splash people were CCing mobs or else they'd kill everyone
TBC Heroics were the most fun and challenging heroics WoW ever had, if you fucked up it was a wipe.
If your group was running through those dungeons without CC, it's because you were over-geared from raids or purple raid BOEs and helping out a guildy's alt
>>332975202
Wait, why are gold farmers playing on private shards?
Like, how is there a market for them?
>>332975739
There are lazy players who don't want to get their own gold so they buy them from goldsellers.
Why would it matter if its a private server or not?
I started playing Nost about 15 days ago.
Im also a pretty slow player, so im lvl 20 yet, and leveling a warrior is supposed to be the hardest.
So i guess i will keep playing nost. Till they release TBC i should be lvl 60, right?
>>332974851
>2 days later nobody is using cc and just rushing everything
what the fuck man
shattered halls, arcatraz and shadow labs all were harder than most of karazhan
Why hurt me like this op?
>>332975814
>Why would it matter if its a private server or not?
Because it's a tiny number of players, I don't see what the incentive is to buy gold when the AH is probably extremely small if it even functions, and presumably the admins of the shard can find and ban bots and even IP ban them if they want
Plus, presumably, the people playing the private shard are a bit more savvy than the average idiot that buys gold and gets hacked.
Just seems like if you're going to bot, you might as well do it where it counts, on the real game
>>332974897
That's why the term "Wrathbabby" was coined.
>>332975913
>and leveling a warrior is supposed to be the hardest.
What? No, leveling a druid or non-shadow priest is the hardest
Warriors have like five different self heals, benefit from the massively powerful (while leveling) fiery enchant, and kill a large number of mobs super fast (even faster than lowbie rogues)
>>332975739
Same way with Maplestory/Maplestory private servers
>chinks hike up prices of niche items in free market
>start botting/farming gold/mesos
>legit players need money, they buy gold/mesos
>they buy the item from the gold/meso farmer
>farmer resells the gold/mesos to another person
It's cancerous, really
>>332976350
>Warriors have like five different self heals
Yeah, they have:
Bloodthirst
Food
Bandages
..
..
>>332971308
>brewmaster monk
>shitty in any way
Complete pleb.
>>332976147
Because.
1) The private server is free to play on, unlike retail that requires recurring subscriptions to bot on.
2) It runs on vanilla's standards of bot detection (practically non-existent) and there are barely any mods around to stop all the bots.
3) The game can run on dogshit computers, allowing one guy to inexpensively multibot dozens of accounts on a single half-decent modern system.
4) The rates for gold in vanilla are good enough so that even selling 100 gold over the course of a week is going to bring in a fair bit of pocket change for virtually no work.
5) Gold is harder to come by in vanilla and good gear is a bigger pain in the ass to acquire, driving the demand for gold sellers.
6) Most of the playerbase are nostalgic adults with less time to play and more money to throw at gold sellers.
>>332960719
This is what really has rustled my jimmies about atleast the PVP server on Nostalrius. There are just too many god damn chinks.
>Tfw new coworkers are hosting a vidya tourney (prolly just casual SF and smash and shit) on the 16th.
>>332965945
Yea the server goes down atleast four times a day too.
>>332976350
Leveling a holy priest is easy. Just bubble, mindblast, dot, wand the mob to death, renew when bubble fades. Very little mana consumption and you can outrun mobs easy if you get piled.
>>332974128
but anon... Most specs were shit.
And pure arcane mage was shit. People just took PoM from arcane and went fire for the rest in PvP
>>332960567
>Soon
Lol
>>332977380
What's PoM?
Actually though, playtbc is launch april 14. Check playtbc.com
>>332977870
power of mind. a cooldown that allowed you to insta-cast spells. most mages would use it to instantly pyroblast people.
>>332975607
>>332975915
>2 days later
I wasn't actually talking about tbc with this. Should have clarified that. Though it is true in my guild group the tank kept requesting we stop using cc
>>332977380
>but anon... Most specs were shit.
>>332977870
Presence of Mind. Makes your next spell cast instant.
Arcane mages were known as 3 min mages because both PoM and AP (Arcane Power, +30% damage for 15s) were on a 3 min cooldown, and they couldn't kill anything outside those 3 minutes. Those two were combined with on use spell damage trinkets from MC and ZG for even bigger pyro crits.
>>332974897
TBC:
>boring as fuck zones
>zangarmarsh is cool for the first time
>everything else sucks
>Heroics were hard, challenging. Best model for Heroic dungeons to date.
>Raids were kind of meh. Challenging, but not as fun as wotlk.
Wotlk:
>still chalenging Heroics for the first patches
>raids sucked more ass than TBC
>progression storyline was GOAT (unless you were alliance and all you got was constant pegging by the Devs).
>dungeons were challenging and fun. Even when looking for that BiS blue trinket to drop so you could raid
>Cavern of time: Stratholme - That fine as fuck, boner inducing shield with the crest of Lordaeron.
>leveling a character was fun as fuck.
I prefered WoTLK. But raiding -might- have been better in TBC. I'm torn, really. Because Naxx was fun, TotC sucked. Killing Malygos sucked. Ulduar was GOAT. but the Heroic dungeons were very pleasant to run.
>>332961323
>>332960719
I see this argument a lot, and i know I'm late to the party but someone tell me something...How is a bunch of American memelords any better than some random foreigners?
>>332978409
>TBC:
>>boring as fuck zones
>>zangarmarsh is cool for the first time
>>everything else sucks
>>Heroics were hard, challenging. Best model for Heroic dungeons to date.
>>Raids were kind of meh. Challenging, but not as fun as wotlk.
you're embarrassing yourself
>>332976350
>druid leveling
>hard
In my opinion it's one of the easiest classes to level, maybe second easiest after mage.leveling one right now on Nost, relaxing as fuck
>>332966834
This reads like a YouTube comment.
>>332978371
>>332978081
1.Sheep a nigga
1.2Hope nigga has no pvp trinket
1.5Use everything that boosts your spelldamage
2.Cast Pyroblast for 6s
3.Pyro lands
3.5 Pop PoM when Pyro flies
3.7 Pop second Pyro
4.Feel good 2 shotting pretty much everything
5.Hide for 3 minutes so you can do it again
It is kinda fun. Its infuriating in tbc when warrior has pvp trinket and you do all the above from max range and the damn warrior reflects both pyros. I think i killed myself more then 100 times like that.
>>332978356
most classes had a "I want to be taken seriously " spec and a "I want to be ridiculed" spec.
Hybrids were either healers or ridiculed. No exception.
Warriors were tanks or ridiculed. No exception.
Warlocks DPS was so bad in destruction, that aff had higher DPS. However, debuff limit meant you couldn't be Aff in raids, so you had to spam shadowbolts and just SUCK.
Mages had to go frost (which was pure crowd control and ZERO damage) because arcane was the buffs tree and every dungeon/raid had fire immunity.
Hunters....I never played a hunter, so I don't know.
Rogues went tri-spec and never picked a single tree.
So yeah. You're full of shit. going into a single spec was gimping yourself, most of the time, and 2 out of 3 specs usually sucked ass to begin with. that's 66.6% specs sucking.
>>332978935
>Warriors were tanks or ridiculed. No exception.
Fury warrs were very strong in AQ/Naxx.
>every dungeon/raid had fire immunity.
Except AQ and Naxx.
>Rogues went tri-spec
No, just no.
I can't find any confirmation it's actually releasing.
>>332978508
Because the Americans spew their asinine shit in a language the vast majority can understand. My native language isn't english, but you don't see me running around using my virtually unknown rune-speak. These fucking china men, however, walk around using their language like anyone but them can understand it. It is very tiresome that one is unable to facilitate communication with half of the player population, simply because they are raised in the most democratic republic in the world
>>332978624
>hellfire
>Terokkar forest
>blade's edge
>nether storm
>shadow moon
kill yourself if you think these are good zones.
>heroics were hard and challenging
you disagree?
>raids were challenging but not as fun as wotlk
so, I can't state a preference for WoTLK raids even tho the GOAT raid (Ulduat) is from WoTLK?
KYS faggot.
>>332979521
Fair enough but I'm trading not being able to fully understand part of the playerbase for DANK MEMES 24/7. Is this really a trade off I'm willing to make, anon?
>>332979513
Because it isn't.
>Retail vanilla
Garbage
>1.12 patch vanilla
Perfection.
>>332978409
>Wotlk
>chalenging Heroics
>dungeons were challenging and fun
are you even serious
fun, yes, but challenging? they were utter faceroll even at release.
WITCH EXPANDING HAD THE BASED MEMES?
>>332980065
Heroics were easy. People on my server were retarded. I died countless times to that Anub'Arak dungeon and some troll dungeon because people just plain suck/are brain dead.
Still, even if it wasn't as hard as TBC (which was pretty much the ideal dificulty) , it was challenging enough to be fun while everyone had blue gear. It only became too easy when people started getting better gear. It was fine as it was (difficult enough to get epic gear, but not supposed to be as challenging as raids where you upgrade the gear from heroic dungeons).
>Pride is coming back
>doing another Lore for Noobs
Why is no one talking about it?
>>332980674
Who gives a steaming shit about the lore?
>>332980065
This is true.
I actually started longing for the days of the Shattered Halls on Heroic in comparison.
>>332980590
>difficult enough to get epic gear
not even close
>spam rhc for 3 days
>buy t7 chest and gloves without ever setting foot in a raid
>>332980810
Who gives a steaming shit about legacy servers?
>>332981109
Real hardcore chink farmers. Take your lore shit and go be gay somewhere else.
>>332979829
That's up to you to decide. Personally, on Nostalrius, I really loathe the memeing bastards that are clearly from /v/. With their "WEWUZKINGZ" and incessant need to use "cuck" in whatever mangled way they can. Fucking newfags, the lot of them
>>332982106
Spotted the cuck.
>>332982223
What's up you meme loving fuck
>>332982336
Memeing. Shitposting. Watching ape-hoop.
>>332982223
no u
>>332966124
Vanilla is pretty bad m8
>>332971973
>>"there must always be... a lich king!" is retardation.
People like you are stupid. WoW is a theme park. A representation of the whole.
The Scourge is unfathomably huge when arthas goes down, there is a ridiculous amount of troops that will go nuts, numbers wise there has to be more scourge than people on azeroth.
So yeah, there must always be a lich king.
>>332970338
Pandaland looked pretty cool
Monks are my favorite
Everything else is shit
I subbed for a month and did all the raids so I could see them and never looked back
Looking into getting in something else but MMOs are so fucking garbage somehow I can't explain it
>>332983086
>scourge without leadership
>somehow more dangerous than scourge led by one of the most powerful beings in the entire world
how the fuck is any of this supposed to make sense?
how the hell is a mindless horde of brainless undead more dangerous than a vast army of controlled undead who are organised and led by the fucking lich king?
>>332959695
nice proof faggot.
>>332971710
Lol he actually doesnt know that healing touch was the best tank healing spell.
>>332965997
proof /v/ has bad taste. everyone here thinks their opinion is right but only 10% of people here have a good opinion
>>332983817
>how the hell is a mindless horde of brainless undead more dangerous than a vast army of controlled undead who are organised and led by the fucking lich king?
The ghouls are mindless, the aboms are stupid, the frost casting skellies are not, the liches are not, the gargs seem mostly intelligent if not particularly capable of speaking, the frostwyrms are usually both evil and intelligent.
At best you have 3 or 4 factions of intelligent undead with terribly large armies and the ability to make more, the work of years the people of azeroth don't have to give and lives they don't have to give.
>>332959928
>>332959695
It's been Indev for so long everyone stopped caring.
>>332959695
That release date is fake. There's no information about it anywhere.
>>332984216
healing touch had a 3.5 sec cast time.
I need a source for class guides and shit for classic. I can't decide what class to play because they all seem like shit for the first few levels
