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WHAT WENT SO WRONG?
Unresponsive controls and poor framerate
>>332940142
It's so weird. The controls are unresponsive with chibi Noct, but okay with grown Noct.
Like blocking with the shield is instant, no delay.
>>332940307
This honestly.
Grown Noctis plays perfectly fine but shota Noctis plays like shit. Grown Noctis was fun as hell to play
But I thought that the release was in September.
Spoon feed me.
No option to gangbang Cidney.
i blame the engine
>>332939305
I'm hyped for it after playing the demo tbqh. Yeah the frame rate could be better, but I enjoy the combat, visuals and characters.
>>332940603
OP is just being retarded, and the other people are talking about the demo.
>>332940603
typical /v/ doom and gloom shit
Ill play devil's advocate, they have 6 months left dedicated almost entirely to fixing the framerate
>>332939305
Not much actually, I'm pleased
>>332940660
>colorful character that offers some creativity with combat
>can't be a pt member
>instead we got more faggots wearing black
I am too old. Back when I was plying FF you had Yetis, Moogle, lab experiments, fortunetelling cats andgirlsin your groups.
>>332940947
They already confirmed guest female members.
>>332940874
Implying that will happen.
Did something go wrong?
Noctis is a manlet.
Hellooo, SE, 5 7 is Tom Cruise/rdj territory.
Cant believe someone greenlighted the game.
>>332941024
>guest
If I can't drag 'em till the lst boss, why borther leveling them in the first place?
>>332941104
Because I guarantee Stella will be a permanent member after Prompto dies.
>>332940660
>New Footage
holy fuck she better be in at least one CGI cutscene, I can't imagine her after VisualWorks gets their hands on her, figuratively, anyway.
Jesus Christ my dick is going to explode with the force to create a thousand suns and their own galaxies.
>>332940850
how can this look sofun? FF supposed to be ded
>>332940850
This looks seriously fucking good.
>>332941205
>Prompto
Gladio will seemingly die, to be replaced with Cor about 2/4 of the way through. At the 3/4 point, Cor will die (for real), and you'll be left with only Prompto and Ignis. After an hour or so of play, Gladio will come back, and be with you for the whole endgame.The final boss kills Prompto and knocks Ignis and Galdio out of the fight. Stella joins you as a temp member for the final boss fight.
>>332940874
The framerate is a big red flag, but the demo was put together from other of the game's assets and is not a section taken directly from the final game, so it might not be optimized properly. They should have fixed that though, because now there's a legitimate reason to think there are framerate problems in the game. Nobody can tell exactly if the problem is just shitty demo optimization or the game's going to be like that.
>>332940307
>>332940557
The squenix exec at the uncovered event did say that Platinum Demo was a standalone experience
separate from the main game
I'm guessing they just threw the shota mechanics together quickly to tide over the fans before it launches
We probably wont get to play as shota noct in the real game
>>332941541
>We probably wont get to play as shota noct in the real game
I think there are a few sections where we can, but not any combat. More like the prologue and dream sequences with Stella or something.
>>332939305
they should have stopped after FF1
If the framerate takes a shit with only one enemy on screen then imagine what will happen when you're fighting an army plus a metal gear with explosions going on.
>>332941291
>>332941445
while aerial combat is mostly pointless in the demo - it's main point is to allow people to try it out as it's not in ED
>>332940660
I really, really want a Cidney figure. I hope the inevitable Play Arts one is looks good.
>>332941291
>>332941445
When development actually started on FFXV the key idea was to make, and I'm paraphrasing, "the combat more cinematic", "like Advent Children"
It LOOKS SO GOOD, and the CGI/Movie version of XV will literally be THAT GOOD, but the game is hot garbage and feels like your hand on a stove.
>>332941620
>Stella
Kek
>>332941650
The framerate didn't dip badly during large encounters in the Duscae demo. Not to say the framerate was any good, cause it wasn't, but it wasn't having huge dips.
>>332941847
I forget, is her name Stella or Luna now?
>>332939305
it's not released yet dipshit.
>>332939305
Am I wrong in thinking that so far the only things that we know are wrong are also easily fixable? The fps problem could be solved easily by switching to PC or by optimising, and the unresponsive controls could be tweaked and fixed.
The actual combat system would be awesome if it was more fluid. It is kind of like a darksouls light but with a lot more rewards for an aggressive player. Also the ability to move around and climb a building mid combat is kind of cool. It would be interesting to force enemies to switch to their lesser ranged weapons to try to hit you while you lob grenades at them.
The magic system is not really magic at all, it seems more like combat items, but that could be changed by removing the limit on how many times you can cast a spell.
The main issue is the story, if it has a good story then the game will be worth playing.
How did the character and costume design progressively get worse and worse over 10 years?
>>332941937
It's Luna
>>332942150
Deals with clothing designers or some shit.
Game looks good, Stay mad.
>>332939305
They simply should have made a Final Fantasy game. Instead they made GTA: Emo Edition.
>>332942150
What do you want, a guy dressed like the one in your pic?
>>332940660
why are there cars?
it's a weird thing to see in final fantasy
>>332942227
It certainly looks good. It doesn't play well, however.
>>332942330
>cars are weird to see in final fantasy
Nigga cars has been in final fantasy in VII, VIII, and LR
>>332942150
I prefer the clothing now to the garbage backs Noctis was wearing in Versus.
Also glad there will be alternate outfits too.
>>332942278
jesus christ this is lazy - giving you a reply out of pity
>>332939305
The gameplay is shit.
We waited a whole decade and wanted good gameplay. I'm glad that it looks and sounds nice, but it plays like ass, and it's still a video game.
>>332942071
>FPS
>unresponsive controls
>combat system
>magic
All things The Witcher 3 could have fixed, and didn't, because why should it? Still sold like hotcakes. Gamers are not the target audience of games anymore, and if ever there was a series so bloated into delusion, it's goddamn Final Fantasy. Expect nothing different than ED and Platinum. Shit's garbage.
>story
Final Fantasy has never had good stories. It struggles to even have a likable cast, of which none of XV seem to be.
>>332942150
>character design getting worse
I remember seeing a blogpost way back during the Versus XIII days
Some Fujoshit was furious that they gave Noctis a stronger jawline and more aggressive face
She demanded that nomura make him more androgynous and girly
If some anon here knows what im talking about please post a link or screencap, i want to read it again
I'm way, WAY more interesting in the story of a young boy trapped in his dream world, trying to get back to the real world while facing nightmares and such, and using light-hearted weapons and magic to fight shadowy monsters.
Not so interested in Anime MC and his Anime Bros doing Anime things in this line by line Anime Story while some Final Fantasy things happen.
The gameplay is fun, though.
>>332942621
So I am guessing you never played a Final Fantasy game before FF7? Earlier games had amazing story. FF7 and 8 had decent story.
Also, a lot of games don't choose to change combat, you are right about that, but FFXV already updated their combat because of massive complaints. They appear to actually be listening to fans gameplay-wise. Perhaps they will hear people complaining about this and tweak things.
>>332942951
That first one is pretty much the majority of Child of Light.
So shitposting aside, none of you actually take the vegetables out of a good hamburger right? I mean, just eating meat, bread, and cheese. That's some fucking insult to a good burger there.
>>332942602
>The gameplay is shit.
Incorrect. For a casual ARPG, it's not bad.
The combat isn't as basic as I thought it was. If you fiddle around, you can pull off some pretty neat shit. Just don't go expecting something as deep as DMC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEYvFS7w3KE&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzbNCiVzzYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8UqiPl5laU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYanAX2AlVU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcQLsRRMLQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxSwEL7SPo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiVWlRi9E
>>332943060
My brother does. He's a huge faggot.
>>332942680
Japanese culture is ass backwards anyway. They believe that a man that looks masculine is gay because he is so insecure in his sexuality that he HAS to look straight. In their eyes a straight man should be able to look like a woman, act like a woman, and wear more makeup than a woman and still be taken seriously as a straight guy.
>>332943060
Only lettuce. Fuck lettuce.
>>332943060
Noctis is known to be a picky eater. Especially with his coffee.
I put fries in my hamburger.
>>332942150
>character and costume design
Nothing will beat X at that regard.
>>332943060
It depends, there is a burger dive by me that occasionally seems to use crap veggies in their burgers, so I take out the offenders, but at a REAL burger place I keep everything I ordered on it, including the veggies.
>>332943065
They tried to make it look as flashy and intricate as DMC but the gameplay just sucks.
>For a casual arpg
First off, qualifying the statement is bad. Second off, qualifying it with "for a casual" anything is worse.
KH has extremely simple combat, but it's responsive and fluid and works like it's supposed to. XV looks pretty, but have you actually played it? The air combos amount to throwing a few shurikens and then tapping left or right while throwing your next one. There's no precise timing or cancels to reset combos, and they leave you wide open, which will be a problem when more enemies are on screen. The framerate and input lag are abysmal, and there's no excuse for that. It really hampers ground combat and dodge/parry mechanics.
And stop posting those fucking videos, they aren't impressive in any sense of the word.
>>332943362
Please don't compare this tech demo to something complete like KH. Let this game be it's own thing. If you don't enjoy the demo, fair enough. Stop comparing it to fully finished games. This demo wasn't even made my the main team.
>>332943065
That first video makes it seem like a slightly sluggish DMC game rather than the sluggish DS game I originally thought it was.
>>332939305
Nothing, get the shuriken and shield
>>332943552
The point of a demo is to demonstrate the game, that's where the word demo comes from. This was a poor demonstration of gameplay. If the game fixes the issues, then it might be fun. Based on what we've seen, the gameplay sucks.
>>332943362
>>332943552
Kingdom Heart's combat system has evolved through a crapload of sequels. The first game was on a similar level to the demo.
Hopefully they take a few notes from the KH's team and engine design. This game would be awesome with better timing and more fluid combat.
>>332939305
>ENIX Final Fantasy
>doing it right
Need another decade of games to learn?
>>332943637
The main point of this demo was to be a tech demo showing off weather effects, magic, environments and the new aerial combat. The Giant is essentially a target dummy because of this.
They should've had a tutorial though, no idea why there wasn't one.
>the gameplay sucks
Cool opinion.
>>332943845
The first game's combat was still much more enjoyable. You know that the better bosses in KH1 - you won't see anything that good in FFXV.
>>332943362
>impressive
this nigga again
You were told before it's just to show people what you can do. The whole point of the demo was to showcase the aerial combat. Stop being offended it isn't a DMC clone you tool.
>>332939305
I played some of the Plat demo. Controls were slow and the roll was really awkward. They should check in with From Soft about rolling.
Roen, the official clothing designer for Final Fantasy XV and the shit Tetsuya Nomura wears every day because he is a fucking child is selling everything the main characters wear in-game.
The Noctis Military Blouson Z is 162,000 yen (US$1,442). Noctis cropped pants are 91,800 yen ($817). The Noctis sheepskin gloves are 21,600 yen ($192), while socks are 3,240 yen ($28.86)
Prompto’s clothesappear to be even more expensive. His leather vest alone is 237,600 yen ($2,117)! His pants are another 91,800 yen ($818).
https://roen-ff15.com/en/html/
>>332940142
Wrong and only in the demo which had kid Noctis, that's not going to be in the full game
It's more responsive than any monhun game yet you faggots gush over that
>>332944235
Additional photos of /v/'s future day-to-day clothing choices.
>>332943362
crying in one thread wasn't enough for you?
>>332943845
>This game would be awesome with better timing and more fluid combat.
>This game would be good with good combat
Yes, that's what I said.
>>332943940
>Cool opinion.
That's what happens when you actually play video games, you have standards and taste.
>>332944084
>You were told before it's just to show people what you can do.
Yes, the entire point is to try to impress people with the combos available and make the gameplay look more intricate and in depth than it is. Hence the comment "those videos aren't impressive". Some idiot shills them in every thread as if they magically dispel any criticisms of the game's combat. They do not.
>circle is attack, square is dodge
WEW
What the fuck is with this opposite day faggotry in Japanese games? I thought we were past this fucking shit. At least they didn't fuck up the jump button.
>>332944335
>Anyone who talks about the game with anything other than blind praise is just one guy shitposting
Why haven't you killed yourself yet? Serious question.
>>332944339
>you have standards and taste.
oh yeah you're so contrarian man
posting the exact same shit in every thread instead of playing better games you cry about tech demos nonstop
>>332943060
There's an egg in his burger too
>>332944235
That's a lot of money just to look like a faggot.
>>332944339
>the entire point is to try to impress people
No it's not. There's nothing impressive about it. It's simply to show people it's there. Take your bruised ego elsewhere.
>>332944386
A circle is considered a positive. An X, a negative.
We, the west, on the other hand attached to the colors instead of symbols. Circle is red, so we see it as a negative, and X that is blue, as a positive.
>>332939305
This thread actually. Game is shaping up to be the GOTY 2016. Don't believe me?
Borrow a PS4 from a friend and download the latest Platinum Demo. Then see for yourself.
>>332944489
Run along now, adults are trying to talk.
What was wrong with Versus XIII?
>>332943362
Oh it's this fag again
>>332944442
But that's all you're doing. You're shitposting a tech demo, wondering why it doesn't play as well as a fully fleshed out game. You're a retarded shitposter from a thread that died a few minutes ago.
>>332944647
Yeah I fucking through so you immature faggot.
>>332944672
It was nothing more than a mishmash of concepts with sequels in mind, but that changed when Nomura was told they higher ups didn't want sequels for it.
>>332943060
I usually take out the onion if I don't feel like eating one
>>332944548
You better not be implying that egg on burger isn't God-tier.
>>332944594
>There's nothing impressive about it. It's simply to show people it's there.
Do you want me to start linking you every thread where that fucking idiot (who's probably you) says "Yeah there are sick combos and great gameplay! Check these out!"
>Take your bruised ego elsewhere.
Aw, that's cute projecting. You're mad that we aren't impressed with your shitty gameplay clips.
>>332944717
>But that's all you're doing
>Talking about the technical aspects of a demo is shitposting
>"You're not supposed to judge the game based on the demo!"
Ok, I'm sure they'll overhaul everything before the final build.
>>332942330
Cars have been in Final Fantasy since FF7 nigga.
>>332943362
>DMC
Stopped reading. You posted this exact same post in the previous thread, god damn you are sad.
>>332944869
>"Yeah there are sick combos and great gameplay! Check these out!"
>OH MY GOD STOP LIKING THIS. DMC IS MUCH BETTER WAHHHHHHHHH
That's what you did for an entire thread.
>>332939305
Nothing so far. I enjoyed Episode Duscae and I enjoyed what little there was in the Platinum Demo. I just wish we got to try the final combat system with a full party.
Everybody's bitching about the framerate but I only had an issue when it was raining and at night. The rest of the time it was hovering around 30. Not ideal but it didn't hinder gameplay at all. The combat is far more forgiving that something like Ninja Gaiden or even DMC so it's perfectly manageable even with the drops. I'd still rather sacrifice some graphical fidelity for a better framerate, but as it is it works well enough.
>>332944869
>we
Plenty of people were enjoying the webms until you came in screaming how it isn't a DMC clone so it sucks.
>>332943845
>first game was on a similar level to the demo
Excuse me?
The first game you pressed attack and that was it. You also selected one of a handful of spells from a menu (which you couldn't combo at all) or one of the special moves from the menu.
>>332944672
Stella was changed to Luna, they only changed Regis's face, iedolas is still in the game identical to that image, Noctis still has his suit, and he's had his current outfit since 2010 when it was stil Versus, Nomura is the one who was behind those changes
>>332944983
>Someone used the same (correct) logic to tell that one guy shilling his shit videos to fuck off
>No one can actually respond with anything other than "lower your standards, it's just a demo!"
It's ok, enjoy your shit taste.
>>332945072
>That's what you did for an entire thread.
>It's only one person
Oh you poor, deluded retard.
Care to respond to what I said instead of just complaining that I was mean to you? Of course not, you're a shit eating retard who can't make a point.
>>332945261
>Someone used the same (correct) logic
>It totally wasn't be you guys, I'm totally not patting myself on the back right now
>>332945161
>Plenty of people were enjoying the webms
Speak for yourself. After actually playing the demo and knowing how that shit works, it's extremely dull. You can fuck right off with your cinematic bullshit.
>>332945214
>The first game you pressed attack and that was it.
Yes, and that's better than pressing attack and waiting for a few seconds till Noctis decides if he wants to move or not.
>>332944869
It's already proven you never played it so stop posting
>>332945261
>Care to respond to what I said
What did you say. That it's not impressive to you so nobody else should be impressed?
Get the fuck over yourself.
>>332945360
>Speak for yourself. After actually playing the demo and knowing how that shit works, it's extremely dull. You can fuck right off with your cinematic bullshit.
Why are you even in this thread outside of shitposting?
>>332943060
Only pickles,fuck that crunchy shit
>>332945093
>I only had an issue when it was raining and at night
So the only times where the overworld might actually be interesting?
>it's perfectly manageable even with the drops
Dude this game has hundreds of millions behind it. It's unacceptable for such mediocre gameplay and drops at all. I'm not even FPS police, I don't even have a fucking gaming PC, but fuck me if these games with $100,000,000 development budget and $200,000,000 marketing budget don't even run smoothly or have a competent development team.
And this shit will sell unbelievably, just like TW3. This is the fucking market now, and it's a fucking disgrace.
On a semi-related note, this shit launches in 5 months. The marketing is at full capacity, and the dev team is all but finished. Platinum is literally the final product, and it's a complete fucking mess.
>>332945261
DMC-kun just go.
>>332945321
Still waiting on an actual response to the criticisms of the gameplay instead of "Stop having standards. It's a demo. They can still fix it."
What's that? Nothing to actually defend the gameplay? Didn't fucking think so.
>>332939305
Went from MUH DARK AND EDGY "realistic" fantasy to generic adventure story #29389248329846716284
>>332943060
Depends on where I got the burger from. If it's shit fastfood then yeah, their veggies are garbage. If it's from a good restaurant though fuck no, fresh lettuce and tomato are great. I may ask them to hold the onions though.
>>332944564
Nomura doesn't cheap out
>>332945364
>It's already proven you never played it
Swing and a miss
>>332943362
What is it with the constand DMC comparisons? A designated action game like DMC will always have better combat then an RPG because combat is basically its sole focus.
An Open World RPG on the other hand has a lot of different mechanics that need to be designed and the combat needs to accomodate its RPG elements which is why it'll never be as polished and as skill based as something like DMC.
As long as it's better than Elder Scrolls and not significantly worse than something like Witcher 3 I'm fine with it.
>>332945463
What criticisms? All you've been doing is comparing this to KH and DMC and whinging that it doesn't emulate them.
>>332945360
So you didn't play it at all.
I bet you think kid Noctis section is how adult Noctis plays
stop feeding the DMC troll you idiots
>>332945446
This was a tech demo, not a part of the actual game
>>332940850
Looks like aSoulsgame
>>332940307
>Like blocking with the shield is instant, no delay.
Except when it doesn't work half the time.
Cancelling is inconsistent as fuck.
>>332945551
Compare it to Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma or Kingdom Hearts. The combat still falls short.
>>332945563
>What criticisms?
Simplistic combos without enough variability. Horrible input lag and frame dips that ruin timing and precision. Go ahead, refute them.
>>332944331
>>332944235
Damn those clothes look faggy. If I looked like an effeminate shota I'd probably actually buy them.
>>332945463
So you never played it, don't know anything about the shield or shuriken, and don't realise that this is a tech demo and not a section or even a part of the actual game
>>332945671
This.
Wasn't even made by the same team. It was made by the business division.
>Except when it doesn't work half the time.
Never experienced this. Not once. Been able to stun the Iron Giant several times in a row while practicing. Maybe you're not timing it right.
>>332945549
Everything you've said only backs it up
>>332945904
4chan was never alive to begin with. It's always been a shuffling, frankenstinian monstrosity.
>>332945804
Nope and again this is a tech demo
>>332945804
Well, I'd call Dark Souls less of an RPG and more of an action game with some prominent RPG elements, I haven't played Kingdom Hearts and I will concede that DragDog had exceptionally good combat for an RPG. But as the word "exceptional" implies, I am aware that most other games probably wont live up to it. Didn't one of the people behind DMC actually work on it?
>>332945804
Well for a start complaining about variability on a tech demo is pretty stupid. The fact you keep comparing this tiny demo to games like Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma or Kingdom Hearts is extremely retarded. Completely retarded. Let this game be it's on thing when it comes out. You don't like the combat, that's fine. Don't play it. Just don't go comparing a demo that doesn't even have the full combat to complete games.
Input lag and performance is an issue, everyone will agree on this so there's nothing to refute.
>>332945904
We chased the retards out and made the site better.
>>332945819
>So you never played it,
If you promise to kill yourself on camera, I'll take a picture of the game clock right now and post it.
>don't know anything about the shield or shuriken,
Shield mechanic is good in theory, but the lag and shitty controls make it suck. It's great that I can block and parry, but when I throw a large swing with my greatsword and the enemy looks like he's going to hit me first, I want to switch to the shield and then move cancel to block. I want precise, responsive controls, and this game does not have them. The shuriken deals very little damage and does nothing outside of look flashy. The "air combos" boil down to throwing a few in the air, then tapping left or right with circle to roll and then reset the same thing. The damage/MP cost-benefit makes it pointless, and the combo itself isn't fun or technically impressive. It's style over substance.
>and don't realise that this is a tech demo and not a section or even a part of the actual game
Then why include the combat at all? Why not just make it the kid section to show how pretty it looks and how environments and weather are? They added combat, and the combat sucked.
>>332945936
Nope.
>>332946037
>this is a tech demo
Yes, it's demoing the tech, and the tech sucks.
>>332945446
I agree that framerate should be better. But it's hardly game-ruining. Stop being so melodramatic.
>So the only times where the overworld might actually be interesting?
You only find dark and rainy environments interesting? Or are you just shitposting for the sake of it?
>Platinum is literally the final product, and it's a complete fucking mess.
How is it a mess? Outside of the minor framerate issues it's fine.
>>332946039
Also, it probably deserves to be pointed out that when it initially released on PS3 Dragons Dogma had very severe framerate issues aswell.
>>332945804
>Compare it to Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma or Kingdom Hearts
For what purpose? It's absolutely pointless. When the full game comes out, go ahead.
>>332946260
>and the tech sucks
Cool story. Don't play it then. I don't understand why you're being such a baby.
>>332946039
>I haven't played Kingdom Hearts
The combat is simplistic, but it works. Attacks, rolls and blocks all come out quick. You get a basic air launch and air linker, and you can customize combo finishers. There's nothing crazy like delayed inputs to change combos or intricate parries with grapple finishers, but the basic block and counter system works, and it always works silky smooth. It's made by the same company, so there's no reason to expect the combat to be less responsive.
>>332946364
>For what purpose?
I compare it to the combat mechanics in KH because it's made by the same company.
>>332945804
>the incomplete combat in this demo falls short of these fully fleshed out games
REALLY?
>>332946483
>I don't understand why you're being such a baby.
People come to /v/ to discuss video games. Someone is discussing the tech in a tech demo for a game that people have waiting a decade for. You're an assblasted faggot who thinks that people can't criticize the game.
Fuck off back to whichever hugbox you came from.
>>332946535
If they just made it exactly like KH, they might as well make it a KH game.
>>332946609
see
>>332946535
It's not just about equipment, fancy moves and combo finishers, the problem is the fundamentals. If I'm playing a demo, I don't expect all the features unlocked from the get go, but I do expect the fundamentals of the gameplay to be properly represented in the game.
>>332946719
>If they just made it exactly like KH
It doesn't have to be exactly like KH, it should just be responsive and fluid like KH.
>>332946673
>the game.
You mean the demo. You keep behaving like this is the full game. I'm not ass-blasted at all. I couldn't care less that you don't like it. I'm just confused as to why you insist on comparing it to other games that are 100% finished products.
>>332944672
Not existing, firstly.
>>332946863
Do you honestly and truly believe that they will radically overhaul the game mechanics to the point that it will be smooth and responsive when it launches 5 months from now?
Be honest.
>>332946858
>responsive and fluid
It is though. I've had zero problems air dodging Iron Giant several times in a row, or any trouble parrying him. I think what you meant to complain about was the framerate which effects responsiveness.
>>332946983
6 months, and yes. I don't see why not. It's already responsive. They just need to fix the framerate.
>>332941291
>Fun
Really? Holding down a single button is fun for you?
Holy shit.
>>332947159
>holding down a button to airdash during combos
wew lad
fuck off
The combat wasn't very fun. Especially the use of magic. I hope the final game has more weapon types and can deliver on the open world part since some of the areas in the trailer looked really great.
>>332947036
>It is though.
It's not. There's input lag and (as you've mentioned) massive framerate issues. The controls themself are not responsive enough. Try using the greatsword and then switching to shield mid-attack to parry a few times.
>>332947129
>6 months
It's on shelves in less than 6 months, they don't have 6 to work on it.
>and yes
I envy your optimism.
>It's already responsive. They just need to fix the framerate.
No it's not. The input delay is horrible.
>>332939305
Nothing really major, both demos have been pretty enjoyable in their own ways. There are a few flaws here and there in both, but otherwise they've convinced me the game might be worth checking at some time after release.
>>332946983
Yes. This demo was made by the business division that had nothing to do with the main team. They can't optimize for shit because ED is responsive doesn't fucking chug this badly with 20 enemies on the screen.
>>332944831
>It was nothing more than a mishmash of concepts
Yeah, thank god we got this coming of age neogoth pseudo-opera "press A to win" cutscene-based combat Coleman© sponsored thing instead.
Faggot.
>>332947357
I think that has more with the greatsword being slow and clunky, not the controls.
The demo isn't working for me. I'm just getting a black screen.
>>332947250
>One of those things requires an extra button press.
>wew lad meme
>fuck off
Calm down dude, you're shilling too hard.
>>332947445
What is your malfunction?
>>332943060
Fuck no, I eat the burger as it was served.
Completely defeats the purpose if you take out things of the fucking burger YOU ordered.
Go fucking buy another burger if you don't like the current ingredients included in the one you ordered.
>>332947539
The weapons being clunky is a control problem. I'm not talking about the actual animation, I'm talking about how the character responds when I try to cancel/switch.
>>332947581
Gotta turn on the console.
>>332943845
no it fucking wasn't. You take that shit back right now, I played KH1.5 last year and it was way more responsive than this shitpile of a demo
>>332947586
>shilling a free demo
fucking kill yourself
>>332947734
Having a single weapon that locks into a long animation in return for big damage is not "clunky".
>>332947686
>What is your malfunction.
Wrong website shill.
>"you can't expect an open world rpg to have as good combat as a real action game"
>>332947390
>ED is responsive doesn't fucking chug this badly with 20 enemies on the screen
This could also be because the demo used an older build of Luminous, and this new demo uses Luminous 2 which is a CPU killer.
They should just go back to the original Luminous. There' no way they'll keep a constant 30 fps with this engine.
>>332943060
I just order it plain. no nasty cheese, veggies, or condiments.
I didn't play Duscae, but I really liked the Platinum demo. The babby Noctis parts were cute but simple, but the adult Noctis fight felt really good. The one against the level 15 one, not the initial mandatory fight.
From what I played, you can't just hold dodge. When you hold, there's a brief period where Noctis flashes blue, and an attack has to land in that window to be dodged. Then on top of that, not all attacks can be dodged.
And from even the babbyNoc part, I can see where switching weapons is going to offer a lot of options in combat, despite only one attack button. I was starting with the hammer to stun, switching to sword, and switching again if necessary to keep the enemies on the ground.
I'll agree the bulk of the demo was simplistic, but it certainly showed glimpses of things to come. Even after the event I was skeptical, and I haven't been following this actively or anything, but the demo has me considering getting it on release. I don't fully understand the response, here.
>>332939305
Pretty sure the game haven't been released yet? Or do you have a leak? Link pleaseFucking idiot
>>332943060
I have a huge faggot of a friend who refuses to eat lettuce and tomatoes in his burger.
>>332947860
It's just one example that's easy to point out.
Spend time playing with dodge roll after attacks, and spend time fooling around with regular sword swings to see what the startup time for attacks is. The controls are very clunky and unresponsive. Yes, I can parry with the shield and punish as well, but try switching actions mid combo to get a feel for how the controls are "under pressure" and you'll see what I mean.
>>332948007
DD's combat is mediocre. The only reason is gets so much recognition is the climbing mechanic.
>>332948186
It's ten times more responsive than FFXV
>>332948264
>more responsive than a demo
Wow impressive. I love that the console versions had the same framerate problems as the demo.
Give an ignorant a short summery about final fantasy, please.
Why the fuck are there so many games? Are they all different stories or are there some continuation?
Never cared or played any of the games but XV combat looks sick.
>>332946858
It is, get the shield, get the shuriken, use airstep and broadsword actions properly
>>332943065
>Final Fantasy vx combat footage with edgy music
kek
>>332948130
this
It's like you are always wresting with Noctis about what to do. You do some inputs during a combo, and he starts something you didn't want him to do because god knows why, then you quickly try to cancel out of that in any way, which has Noctis stop that thing he was doing with a slow as FUCK stopping animation . . . then it's already too late to do anything other than auto-dodge, because the enemy is already swinging at you at this point in time
>>332948435
>get the shield, get the shuriken
Kill yourself. Please just fucking kill yourself.
Hopefully the full gameplay demo with the whole crew they release in the future won't be as clunky and have decent fps.
>>332948398
each and every one a completely different story set in different universes
there are things that appear consistently across all/many of them, Cid or Summons for example
you should play a few of them
>>332948398
Every game is its own thing - universe, characters, stories etc
Overall elements carry over between games (Chocobos, skill names and other stuff), but you can essentially jump in anywhere and play any of them in any order you want. The gameplay changes depending on the game, although some of them are simmilar to each other.
XV looks sick yeah, but it feels absolutely horrible to play once you get your hands on the controller. Give the demo a shot yourself if you have a bone or a psquadrupple
>>332948398
There's no continuation at all between numbered entries, they take place in entirely different settings. The series has changed a lot over time with numbers 1-6 being classic 2D JRPGs, and 7-10 being 3D cinematic JRPGs that still use the menu-based battle system. The series has had a troubled history since then (10 came out in 2001) with 11 and 14 being MMOs, and 12 and 13 having a mixed reception (though I love XII).
You can jump right into XV with no knowledge of the previous games and be fine.
>>332948547
So you didn't get them
>>332948782
We've already bee through this. The only responsive thing is blocking with the shield. Everything else is still clunky.
>>332944324
Monster Hunter doesn't try to be a fast paced flashy shonen anime game.
>>332948782
see
>>332948130
All the Shurikens do is let you throw a couple, side-step and then repeat. I already talked about the shield.
Kill yourself. Please just do it.
>>332948850
No it isn't, its like you don't even know that different weapons have different weight and ranks which relates to their swings
>>332948398
Some guyfrom 9fagsaid that FF1s ended with a something about time and dimension shit that lead to the creation of the multiverses we've seen today.Dissidia is FF1
>>332949087
The time it takes the animation of an attack to go through is not what makes it clunky, the startup time (lag) and unresponsiveness of giving him the action, and the ability to input different actions to cancel or follow it up is what makes it clunky.
>>332949087
lol fuck off the combat was nowhere near this unresponsive in ED
>>332949206
I think he's talking about the PSP anniversary edition. That one has time traveling and Cid of Luthenia (or something) and talks about the eternal dragon of time and stuff.
>>332943845
KH1.5 was far, far better than the demo, even before you got any upgrades.
>>332949023
Wrong, shuriken gives you fast responsive aerial and ground throw attacks with various action, airstep sword gives you fast weapon strikes both on ground and air with various actions like backflip, sidestep, lunge, broadsword gives you heavy deliberately slower swings for stronger hits, side sweeps, spins and charges
You probably just watched a video on youtube and pretend you played it but you are full of shit
>>332949460
>shuriken gives you fast responsive aerial and ground throw attacks with various action
Fucking wrong.
Try again after you've actually gotten them and played the game.
>>332949320
I see. Never played FF but played FF2. Man, hitting your party members for stat gains is funny as hell.
>>332949237
Fuck off retard get the fucking shield and shuriken, the airstep sword and broadsword area also both more responsive than zweihander and Bloodsword/avenger were
>>332949217
But that's wrong because it's not clunky at all, it's already much faster and responsive than ED
>>332949657
The game is ok, but the optional dungeons and extended lore at the end of the game in the PSP version are really fucking cool.
Okay I'm genuinly worried about this game after playing that demo.
I have been fooling around with AI programming for a while, and that shit takes a shit ton of performance power to be calculated in the background at all times.
So what I mean to say is, consider this demo. You are fighting 1 single enemy, not 4 enemies - and furthermore, you aren't running around with your AI companions which all have co-op subroutines they need to be ready for while they fight . . .
so how on earth is this game going to run any better in the full version?
>larger areas
>more shit going on in the AI
>more particle effects
>a fucking flying car
it was way too early to release that demo
>>332949757
>But that's wrong because it's not clunky at all, it's already much faster and responsive than ED
>>332949357
Hope you are kidding, because start game KH1 is way more slow, clunky and floaty than either XV demo was
>>332949757
>get the fucking shield and shuriken
you keep saying this like it means something
This game's input delay is off the charts, and instantly makes ED better.
>>332948535
I am going to blow your mind right now. Try switching to magic and warping without a lock on. Imediate cancel into a "roll" with all the invencibility frames. You are welcome.
>>332949584
Except they do, good job proving you never played it
>>332949845
The demo was meant to showcase the weather and night/day cycle more than anything.
I just don't think they should try forcing Luminous on consoles.
>>332949757
The mechanics are design wise much better than Episode Duscae and I am happy for them, but it is still clunky and unresponsive. The framerate sucks too, but I thiiiiiiink they can fix that in time
Fuck off Serj
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>>332949845
Episode Duscae ran about the same as Platinum does.
>>332950104
reminds me of the epoch from CT
>>332949845
This. This is why the game actually runs terribly and looks horrible for a AAA title. There's just so much shit going on. They need to cut a lot on the LOD and shit. Adding salt to injury, those needless hair animation and detailed clothes aren't even necessary.
>>332949996
>Except they do,
Except they fucking don't. You said the shuriken grants various actions. What various actions? Can I throw multiple shuriken at a time? Can I charge up a multihit or a big one? Can I change the arcs and curves of flight paths? Can I change speed? Can I set traps with them? Can I ricochet them?
What various actions? You made a claim, now prove it or fuck off.
>>332949925
No it isn't and you've clearly not played it
>>332950104
>complain about no airships
>get airship
>complain there aren't more
>>332949890
KH1 has a stable framerate and doesn't have horrible input lag.
>>332950104
Why is this a problem?
>>332948374
>Try to sell its positive points.
>Its gonna be so great because its going to be great.
>Trying to defend its negative points.
>B-b-ut its just a demo.
Do you ever get tired of your hipocrisy? You may be paid for it, but at the end of the day you're still a contrarian cunt.
>>332947776
Jesus, this shill is on overdrive.
>>332950104
What? They turn it into an airship, what's the problem?
>>332950171
Fuck no. Episode Discae performed much better ,even with 20 enemies on the screen around trees.
PD fucking struggled with just Chibi Noct in the forest at the start.
>>332950104
>Player controlled aircraft
I thought final fantasy was about swords and magic and wizards and shit, not sports cars and flying automobilesI've never played an ff game btw
>>332950104
Okay?
>>332950303
>>332950390
>Put wings on a car
>its an aurship.
You can't be this fucking retarded.
>>332950104
I'm scared enough about how the game performs in the air with a single airship, so I wouldn't dare hope for more than one
>>332950104
Fuck you can actually pilot that shit? I though it was going to be a menu based system where you point your destination and the aircar flies to bring you there.
>>332950376
>this butthurt than dragon's dogma is shit
lmao
>>332950206
Different directional actions you stupud cunt, holy fuck it cannot be more obvious that you haven't played it
>>332950303
>>332950375
>>332950390
THAT'S NOT A GODDAMN AIRSHIP
IT'S A FLYING CAR
THIS
THIS
IS A MOTHER FUCKING AIRSHIP
JESUS H. CHRIST TWO THOUSAND AND FUCKING SIXTEEN
Downloaded the demo
Finished it in 30 minutes more or less
It fucking suck ass man
I mean, fucking controllers felt unresponsive, the enemies were dumb as fuck, etc
And i was so fucking hyped for it...
>>332950459
Almost every FF has controllable airships. Only they've shelled and simplified the thing after FFIX. By making it a menu based system.
>>332950480
Did you want a massive flying boat that takes up 95% of the screen or something you moron?
>>332950524
nah this and a boat will be player controlled
>>332950574
>Different directional actions
Yes, and what are the end results? How are they functionally different outside of the air sidestep I mentioned.
Show the "various" actions you claimed or fuck off, you stupid fucking shill.
>>332950480
Yes they turn the car into an airship by modifying it with magitek technology, what's the problem?
>>332950420
>PD fucking struggled with just Chibi Noct in the forest at the start.
Nigga come on. Your hyperbole is off the charts.
Go back and play both right now. The run about the same. The worst I could get PD was using Meteorain in the area with the big under-contruction-whale thing.
>>332950534
DD:DA has some stuff going against it here and there, especially its performance on consoles, but jesus christ I ended up enjoying that thing so much on my PS3 nonetheless. I'm considering upgrading my PC so I can run the PC version and have more fun with that combat system with another class this time
>>332950638
cool story bro
>>332950534
Wow, ok, now you really have to be a paid advertiser. Because I literally did not mention dragon's dogma even once, you're deflecting too fucking hard man. You really need to fuck of to redit because they'll buy your shit.
How in the flying fuck can they expect to sell 10 million anyway
>>332950621
Who gives a fuck you can still fly it
>>332950621
It's a car modified into an airship you autist
>>332950621
please
the game fucking chugs enough with one person on the fucking screen
something that big being controlled by the player would crash the game
>>332950725
>Yes they turn the car into an airship
No, they added wings onto a car. That's not an airship you inbred little shit, I don't even give a fuck about your product placement game or your shill filled thread, but That is as much of an airship as a kanoe is an airplane carrier.
>>332942951
When I played the demo, I kept saying
>This is a better Kingdom Hearts than Kingdom Hearts
It was really weird. But I'm looking forward to this game. Could be fun.
>>332950104
>>332950480
>>332950621
This is grade-A autism
>>332950918
I guess Square should have called you first to find out what an airship is.
>>332950924
>This is a better Kingdom Hearts than Kingdom Hearts
Most factually incorrect post in the thread.
>>332939305
How do you make noctis do a backflip? Is that just a perfect dodge?
>>332950723
DMC-kun its okay that you never played it but you need to stop claiming like you know everything about action games or action RPGs when you've only proven you are casual as fuck and don't actually play games either
Get the shuriken, do different directions while attacking for different actions, same as every weapon has different actions from directional inputs
>>332950749
>Go back and play both right now.
I have, and I'm telling you the performance in the forest as young Noctis is an absolute joke, and fighting 50 niggers in ED still doesn't choke that game as much.
Luminous 2 is just a CPU killer.
>>332950885
>10 years in the making.
>It can't handle rendering an airship.
B-buy Final Fantasy Brought to you by Coleman©
>>332951007
Or just looked at literally 20 fucking final fantasy games up to now. But sure I'll have them call me, let them know, since they're signing your checks.
I kinda wish his jump didn't completely destroy any momentum he had going on.It is the first game I have ever played where I don't want to jump around all the time.
>>332950918
It's a car modified with magitek to become an airship
>>332950918
You are fucking autistic.
>>332951142
You were able to play both in the 6 minutes between my post and yours?
Goddamn anon. That's fast.I'm implying you're remembering things wrong you stupid motherfucker.
>>332951007
Wait... so you're genuinely calling it an airship?
I'd insult you but, I'm pretty sure your whole life is an insult anyway.
Tell me, does this game have quick travel?
>>332951119
>DMC-kun
Nice try with a nickname. Now actually respond to the argument. You claimed various actions, I asked what kind. Now stop talking in circles and actually list the various actions. Right now, list them.
I know you're still assblasted that you earned the nickname FFXV-kun, but deflecting won't work. Address the actual point or fuck off.
>>332951162
>wahh why isn't it exactly like these other games
fuck off retard
>>332951249
Yes! I'm so Hype, I can't wait to pre-order Final Fantasy XV.
This is an incredible game made by SquarEnix. Its so innovative and engaging. I have already pre-ordered my copy. How about you?
>>332951230
The way the camera just jerks around is awful too.
I tried to be positive but i can't
It feels like a fucking weird mix of Kingdom Hearts and Ninja Gaiden and they both fail at that
I don't know what to think anymore..
>>332951269
I played both earlier in the day you piece of shit.
PD performs much worse than ED. If you disagree then you're fucking wrong because one is running on an old build of Luminous that didn't eat through as much recourses, and PD uses L2 which can barely handle 1 character running through forest.
>>332951295
Probably no. Tabata mentioned time to time that the emphasis of travelling on this game. But I hope at least that the game allows you to fast travel to the car.
>>332951368
>Stick wings on a car
>its an airship
>calls others retard
At least you have balls, too bad they're online-only.
>>332950885
No, the tech demo does
We saw the full game at Uncovered and there was no performance issues
Fuck even in ED with 20+ monsters and all four party members on screen on screen the performance is 27-30fps, and that's a year old demo which was a small slice of the game
PD is a tech demo that is not part of the full game
>>332950104
the last controllable airship we got was ps1 Final Fantasy 9... yeah you bet i take this batmobil over selection destinations from a stupid cunt menu... you people really just need something to hate dont you?
>>332951493
>PD performs much worse than ED.
Hey, I can't convince you to stop being wrong. You're so full of shit all I can do is shrug.
>>332951540
>there was no performance issues
>actually believes the footage of the boat and plane weren't cgi cutscenes made to look like gameplay
kek
>>332951612
>can't refute those points
Okay.
>>332951519
It's something that flies. Stop being an entitled baby.
So my first time I played I just spammed dodge and attack.
What should I make sure I try out second time through? What should I find?
>>332951660
Refute what? You're literally plugging your ears and screaming "NO YOU'RE WRONG". If you did actually play both back to back to test the performance and still insist that ED runs better than PD, you're either delusional or you're just lying to stir up shit.
>>332951493
Here's a fun fact. PD was made by another division of SE (B2 Division) by compilling assets from the main team. It was probably rushed out anyways.
>>332951540
Bro, please, never ever EVER trust something that is shown off at such an event. Who the fuck knows what kind of beefed up machine it was running on.
I don't like how weapon skills were implemented in the PD
>>332951162
You do realise that airships in XV are Niflheim technology meaning only the enemies have them right? There is already three kinds we've seen and only Niflheim have them
The Regalia was modified by Cid into an airship too
>>332951612
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zikCNN9rm0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
The most annoying shot just happened to me in the demo on PS4. Was playing as adult Noctis and while fighting the iron giant the sun glare just glitched out and took up half of the area. Any time I looked toward the exit that entire part of the zone was impossible to see because the screen glare glitch was so huge that it blocks your vision. I was actually squinting irl while fighting the giant.
Now if I want to toy with the combat I have to restart the demo all over again just to reset the stupid fucking glare.
>>332951273
It is one, its a car airship hybrid that you can use as both
>>332948007
It's still only good for an RPG. Very good, admittedly. Still, nowhere near the level of DMC, Bayonetta or even GoW.
>>332951797
Read the thread. But I'll bite. Get the shield and shurikens. Try parrying and aerial combos.
It went wrong when they canned the Romeo and Juliet angle with the beautiful Stella and put in this shitty road trip
>>332951848
I've already made my case.
Noctis on his own in a forest performs worse than the whole crew fighting a dozen enemy in a forest in ED. You just can't seem to accept this for some reason.
The framerate in the first part of the platinum demo is an absolute joke.
You seem so fucking determined to defend this demo, it's kinda sad.
>>332951608
Maybe if there weren't ten shills trying to oversell this piece of shit to me in every thread, acting like imbeciles every time someone presents a legitimate complaint. I could find more energy to care.
I fucking love final fantasy, I've played literally every title except for the cellphone ones. and most of them were at launch, but its getting too far. XV we've literally waited 10 years for and they're still trying to raise hype by giving us literally nothing tech demos and fucking product placement trailers.
We fucking know literally nothing about this game but people are trying to jack off to some winged car like the fucking savior of gaming. You'd take this over selecting destinations? Nigger you don't even know what "this" is. You're literally choking down SE cock like its the last meal on the planet.
>>332951347
I just told you, nice denial though
>>332951870
Only the part with chibi noct was done by them.
But that's besides the point. The forest part still chugs more than anything in ED.
>>332952079
Didn't feel like reading through all the shit posting. Thanks though
>>332952047
true, but it singlehandedly shuts down the argument that we shouldn't expect anything competent from FFXV's battle system
. . . and Kingdom Hearts exists, so yeah, they have no excuse
>>332952093
It's not. You're just making shit up at this point.
You seem so fucking determined to attack this demo, it's kinda sad.
>>332951952
>You do realise that
Jesus fuck off with your gradeschool argument techniques. I realize its a fucking car with wings, stop shifting the goalpost you little shit, this isn't debate club.
>>332951405
Are you seriously triggered because the car turns into an airship?
>>332952159
>I just told you
No you didn't. I gave examples of various actions, you said "it has various actions". You did not actually list or show any of these various actions.
Address the point and answer my question directly. Stop side-stepping, you stupid piece of shit.
>>332952038
You know what. I would genuinely put a bullet between your eyes and not bat a fucking eyelid at the potential of spending the entirety of my life behind bars, knowing one less retard will have a chance to procreate and make retarded offspring.
>>332951660
So you are in denial
>>332952227
see
>>332951969
If you think a wonky version of L2 done by an outside source performs better than L1 done by the team, then you're an idiot.
PD performs like garbage.
>>332941205
I really fucking hope prompto dies within two hours of the game
It's not an "airship", airships are a lot bigger
That picture even calls it an "aircraft"
>>332952270
What? I love the Airship. I'm glad Magitek is making a comeback as more than just an enemy in the Final Fantasy series.
That's why I said I Pre-Ordered my copy. Are you sure you're replying to the right post? I'm really excited about this game.
Have you Pre-Ordered yet anon?
I hear there would be some Special DLC outfits for people that Pre-Order.
You should Pre-Order now if you want the exclusive content too.
>>332952093
Why are you lying?
>>332939305
It all went wrong a long time ago, with the release of this shit right here.
>>332952384
the proof was already posted >>332951969
ED was usually sitting on 30 FPS even with dozens of enemies around. PD barely ever actually stays on 30 at any given time.
>>332952126
this.
how can this game deserve the hype when the demo was so horrendous? I was genuinly hyped for years but fuck this shit
>>332952596
see
>>332952650
Go be blind somewhere else.
>>332952126
So you are retarded and know nothing about the game and also haven't been following it
Also trying to cling to product placement when ignoring than ff8 and ff9 had Toyota and Coca-Cola product placement commercials and ad campaign too
>>332952126
>>332952701
samefag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64A3HuHYBq4
Literally what I think of every time someone mentions XV.
>>332952238
So you are just autistic.
>>332952926
Why are you getting so triggered over people calling it a winged car?
>>332952881
right.
>>332952312
You have the side flip, back flip in the air you fucking idiot and you can keep in the air because of shuriken
It's ok we already know you never played it
>>332952126
>Maybe if there weren't ten shills trying to oversell this
>acting like imbeciles every time someone presents a legitimate complaint
>>332952835
>So you are retarded and know nothing about the game
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A.
>>332952126
With this style of a game, a massive airship would take up too much of the screen to fly, and it would be less maneuverable. The car is a good compromise. Please contain your autism.
>>332952343
So you are autistic and can't deal with the fact that we can fly an airship in FF again
>>332951094
Down and attack with the airstep sword.
>>332953096
>You have the side flip, back flip in the air you fucking idiot and you can keep in the air
Yes, I mentioned air steps to let you keep throwing. You mentioned various actions. Where are the attacks besides "Throw one shuriken at a time in a straight line"?
Go on, prove me wrong. Show me the various actions with the shuriken.
>>332953085
took long enough to edit that
>>332952593
Nice try with the passive aggressive false flagging
>>332943635
How?
>>332939305
>fujoshit fantasy
it was always shit
>>332939305
it's just not especially fun to play. Considering they made Kingdom Hearts so many years ago it is weird that they dropped the ball on this one
>>332952126
>You'd take this over selecting destinations?
Being able to actually fly over the world and land wherever? Yes.
>>332940603
Yo AJ infinite Summer I see you.
>>332952650
ED is a chunk of the game from 1 year ago
PD is a tech demo that is not part of the game
PD frame rate is better than ED1.0 and equal to ED2.0
>there are people comparing the combat in a JRPG to pure action games like DMC
Christ you people are retarded. XV's combat is far from great, and desperately needs the input lag fixed, but there's no reason to compare it to a completely different genre. Are you going to complain the cars don't handle as well as they do in Gran Turismo next?
>>332953370
Bro I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
>>332952754
So you are lying
>>332952126
>wanting a list instead of something you control
>being this insanely mad just because it isn't a traditional airship in a game that was supposed to go against FF norms
I honestly would love it if you killed yourself.
>>332953526
Oh, you already have the game?
Its a rhetorical question by the way, just like the one you answered, because the sentence after it literally said you don't know what 'this' is. But come on, shill some more. Tell me how else the game will be amazing and why I should preorder.
>>332953121
I see no legitimate complaints here
>>332952701
Demo out : complain
Good demo : nitpicks (complains)
Shit demo : complain
No demo : complain
There's no winning with you idiots
>>332953576
>equal to ED2.0
lol no
watch the video
PD can barely sustain 30fps constantly.
How do i unlock shuriken and shield?
>>332953778
where do you think we are
does XV still have anything leftover from versus XIII? I really loved what XIII was planning to be.
the whole "fantasy based on reality"
or did they just go full mainstream mode casual bby
>>332953580
>Retarded shills are still ignoring the comparison to other action rpgs
>One of them being from the same company, no less
What's next? Are you going to tell us that we're just mad and you're going to buy 2 copies to spite us?
>>332953776
But I see plenty of autistic shitflinging.
God forbid someone dislike or disagree with your corporate overlord and cost you your bonus right.
Oh no, i know, I know, you're not a shill right? No, you just over-react and attack people the second they present an opinion you disagree with.
I'm not sure which one is worse, but you all need to grow the fuck up.
>>332953756
It says in the article it's player controlled. Are you purposely being retarded and throwing around the shill buzzword meaninglessly?
>>332953280
Are you autistic or something? I just fucking told you the different actions with shuriken, plus it's also fast and responsive inputs when using it.
DMC-kun just go.
>>332953756
The car is going to be able to fly over any areas you can walk through, and there will likely be areas that only it can get to. So like every other airship in FF games. How else would it work? We can already see its not menu-based.
>>332953778
>complain about no airship
>get one
>complain it's not traditional
this fucking board
The fact that the one year old Duscae demo runs at about the same framerate as the brand new demo while having a huge area with grass, bushes, sometimes 10+ enemies and your party on screen in comparison to one flat area with a few reflections and only one big slow enemy and noctis himself is kinda sad
And no it's not because it's "just" a tech demo
Everything from the last room in the Platinum Demo has already existed for a long time, not just the room, the enem, and it's whole moveset. The game is fucking 6 months away, all the assets are done
There's no reason why it should have this many performance issues especially the frametiming. Even at times when both run at 30 the frametiming tears frames left and right in the PD
>>332954021
>I just fucking told you the different actions with shuriken
No you didn't. I already said sidestepping to lengthen combos was different. You're talking about various attacks. What other various attacks? Go on, point them out, you stupid fucking shill.
>>332953851
>watch the video
Not him, but I don't need to watch the video. I played them both back to back. The only time PD performs worse is in the rain at night.
>>332953851
Except yes
>>332954138
It's okay to not be able to handle the truth.
>>332939305
NOTHING!
We won!
FFXV Kun won and everything he said and predicted came true.
You can make shitflinging threads everyday untill this game is released like the pathetic dumbass neckbeards that you are and it will change nothing!
We won so just wallow in despair and accept thayt the chances of a pc release are very slim as the game was created with consoles in mind and if it doe come to pc you pc cucks will get it like 5 years from now just like how you got FF9 officially like 10 years to late
>>332953445
Because it's not Kingdom Hearts, Sora. It's a FF game. Of course the combat is going to be simplistic. And comparing between the 2 is needless. Urgh.. I hate pasta, but whenever I read XVs thread, it's always, DMC this, DD that, KH this.
Why are people so upset over the flying car?
>>332953919
Yes, they only changed a few things like Stella into Luna, how the intro plays out and the design of Regis and Prompto's face
>>332950104
>player controlled
holy fucking shit I thought it was a cutscene at the end of the trailer
fucking GOTY
>>332954354
It looks like gimmicky garbage.
>>332954021
Okay hang on lemme analyse this post a sec, I have seen all of this before
>Are you autistic or something?
okay okay, there's the insult
> I just fucking told you
The insisting nature . . .
>plus it's also fast and responsive inputs when using it.
the casual compliment to FFXV
>DMC-kun just go.
HOLY SHIT IT'S XV-KUN
Where have you been? There's like 9 threads a day, but I haven't spotted you until now!
>>332940850
Where do you get the shield and shuriken?
>>332953931
I assume you mean Kingdom Hearts, which also had mediocre combat. Good comparison. They are both subpar for pure action games but work well enough for RPGs. Dragon's Dogma is the only comparable game that has truly good combat. Souls games are extremely simple, rely on busted hit boxes, and are easily abused. They're also 99% combat unlike traditional RPGs.
>>332954354
It's just a single autist.
and this shitposter >>332954402
>>332954447
>which also had mediocre combat
Now try actually playing the games.
>>332954084
Has equally mediocre combat. You KHfags are delusional if you think that shit stinks any less.
>>332953931
By that logic, every single action game needs to be a DMC rip off. Because it's the best action game according to /v/. And fuck off, you weren't even interested in the game in the first place.
>>332954447
>>332954582
KH was definitely more responsive thatn this.
>>332954413
I think you need 350 gems.
Wait until Carbuncle give you the warp ability.
Fight Iron Giant a second time where he is Lv. 15, warp up the building.
>>332954256
It's okay to have no argument. You've lacked one the entire thread.
Ok, but seriously though, what the fuck were they thinking?
The demo doesn't seem to represent the final game very well at all. Why the fuck would you confuse the shit out of people with this weird tech demo?
>>332953931
So you are making retarded comparisons from a barebones tech demo to a full game with end game combat?
>>332954582
Mediocre but precise
FFXV is style over substance, it works but it's also only mediocre.
Which is fine for a FF game
>>332954447
>>332954582
Please, dude.
at the very least, the kid in KH does the stuff you want him to pretty quickly instead of you having to wait half a second or more before he starts moving
>>332954509
IF THEY'RE GOING TO FUCK US WITH A NOT-AIRSHIP THEY MAY AS WELL GIVE US FLYING CHOCOBOS INSTEAD SO I CAN EXPLORE WITH SOMETHING DECENT
>mfw PC cucks buttblasted
>>332954685
>I think you need 350 gems.
I was just playing and I got them with only 130 gems on me.
>>332954535
I played all of them except the GBA one. Even at their best they've had mediocre combat.
>>332954718
>given solid evidence
>dancing around it with ad hominem
good one mac
>>332954657
>By that logic, every single action game needs to be a DMC rip off.
No, by that logic every action game made by Capcom should control as smoothly as DMC. Compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges.
>And fuck off, you weren't even interested in the game in the first place.
Kill yourself you stupid little underage piece of shit. I've been playing SE games since I was a child. I bought a PS3 when it came out because I wanted this game. I've waited 10 fucking years to play it. I taught myself Japanese when Type-0 was announced as Japan only, and now I've watched Tabata destroy the series. Fucking kill yourself.
it started with ff7
>>332940850
This looks fun as shit, fuck the haters. I do think the Shurikens seem OP as fuck when you can just keep spam throwing them while air-dodging or whatever the fuck Noctis keeps doing in that WebM.
>>332954932
>I played all of them
Sure you did.
>>332954737
This. Agreed on all basis. The new demo fails to explain what it is, and there's barely any explanation about the new combat system. They literally thought that people who downloaded it, have played ED. Badly optimised. Man I could go on. But at least we got a demo.
>>332954880
ahh okay that's cool then
>>332954851
You really are fucking entitled.
>>332954737
This was a pretty bad move, they should have made a vertical slice like Duscae instead of having some people make an entirely new thing.
>>332954540
>>332954685
Thanks fampais
>>332954657
Ninja Gaiden is better than DMC. By a lot.
>>332954880
Yeah, one of the plates is silver which unlocks at 100 gems and the other one is platinum which unlocks after beating the giant
>>332955023
that's my main gripe with it right now. I looks awesome as fuck, but it doesn't feel good to actually play
Like, it doesn't feel like you are the one who is pulling off the cool shit. It just happens.
>>332940660
She is so fucking great, love her already. I guess it's just so long ago since we had a Tifa esque like character
I heard there was bonus stuff that gets transfered to the full game when you unlock stuff in the demo, is there some kind of confirmed list of what you get or do we just have to wait half a year to find out?
>>332954136
Yes I did, different actions from directional inputs includes side flip in air which you can use for evasion, back flip attack in air with back direction and attack while in the air to attack while backfliping in the air, repeatedly doing those actions keeps you airborne, those are various actions with shuriken. It's obvious you didn't play the demo.
>>332955023
Look at the lower right blue bar though, it costs MP
>>332954354
Autism of some kind
>>332955157
Attacks should require separate button presses and be more responsive. That would fix most of the issues.
Also how do you unlock the final two question mark plates in the final area? I have like 450 gems and beat the iron giant both times and they still aren't activated.
>>332943060
Well I do that, I'm not a big fan of vegetables in general though I do enjoy a good tomato slice but lettuce, onions, and all the vegetables fixing on a burger I don't care for.
I usually just ask for meat, cheese, bacon (If applicable) and bread when I order a hamburger. You can call me what you want but everyone has different tastes/palates and I just simply don't care for vegetables on my hamburger, it taste way better to me when it's just meat, cheese and bread.
>Inb4 babby palate
>Inb4 NOT A REAL MAN
>Inb4 shit posting to the highest degree
>>332955270
You get Carbuncle, who you can name.
>>332955270
Just Carbuncle I believe.
>>332955270
It's Carbuncle as far as i know
>>332955023
Play the demo. They do very little damage and chew through MP.
>>332955292
>different actions from directional inputs includes side flip in air which you can use for evasion, back flip attack in air with back direction and attack while in the air to attack while backfliping in the air, repeatedly doing those actions keeps you airborne
I already said you can jump in air to reset the throw count. What different attacks can you do with different effects? What can you do besides throw a shuriken in a straight line, one at a time? You said various actions. "You can move in one direction then throw more shurikens" is not various actions.
Try again.
>>332955465
>>332955518
>>332955523
Oh well that's cool I guess, was thinking we would get some bonus weapons or something.
>>332943060
Noctis is such a little shit.
>>332954851
Tabata hinted that black chocobos can fly
>Versus introduced in 2006
>There are people who bought a PS3 to play Versus
Name ONE game that's taken this long to be released and turned out to be good.
>>332943060
Tomatoes are for faggots. Lettuce is okay. Onion is fine if it's diced - think White Castle. And even then it needs to be raw. No thick cut onions or cooked onions should ever disgrace a burger. Ketchup is a negative but not too bad all things considered, Barbecue Sauce is only okay if you're eating a Cheese + Bacon only burger on a potato bun.
French Fries, Mozzarella Sticks and Potato Chips can work on burgers but they're tricky and very easy to fuck up. Some nice egg can work on a simple slider. Ideally though, no, fuck you, Patty + Cheese + Bread is a quick and easy, simple way to do things.
>>332955023
In the full game there is of course aerial enemies too
>>332944672
Noctis was a bigger edgelord in Versus, he still is edgy and dark now but not like he was in Versus
>>332955645
Good.
If a PS3 game can have flying mounts and XV can have a flying car, flying chocobos should be a easy.
>>332955525
Yes those are various actions
>>332943189
So than this means... Luna is confirmed a guy?
Goty... no GOAT!
>>332955902
We've also already seen yellow chocobo can glide if you jump off a high area
>>332955954
No they are not. Your options are attack, or short range motion to continue attacking. There is one type of attack, and one type of movement. Show me the various actions. I gave plenty of examples of different actions, surely you can point to some in the game? I'm sure you're not just a stupid shill who's full of shit.
>>332955954
That as much holding circle on the ground and tapping square whenever the enemy is about to hit you
Frame rate controls horrible battle system.
>>332944672
noctis looks even more emo there, I wish he stayed like that
>>332955643
I-is that Pea Soup? Goddamn I fucking love me some Pea Soup.
>>332956149
Yes they are, holy you are literally having a breakdown right now.
>>332954582
>Doesn't have horrible input lag
>Stable framerate
>Responsive controls
>Doesn't need mediocre air combat as a selling point
Nah.
>>332955689
Other than Duke what game has taken close to this long? There's no real precedent other than DNF which isn't really comparable because that was a rush job stitched together by Gearbox.
>>332956298
>Yes they are
Attack
Short range movement
That is one offensive ability and one maneuver ability. One of each. That is not "various". Give examples of various attacks that weapon has. Go on, I'll wait.
>>332943060
Why people enjoy the bitter taste and slimy consistency of raw tomato is beyond me
I'd sooner eat raw meat
>>332956149
He just doesn't want to admit that he made a mistake
He's the same guy that just goes "you never played it [insult]" and "get the shield and shuriken [insult]" every thread
>>332956364
Rekt him! Nice argument
I started this a few days ago and honestly I'm having a blast
>>332956490
I know who he is and what he's doing, I'm just seeing how long he's willing to talk in circles while he pretends he has a point. I'm curious if he's delusional or just shitposting.
I'm sitting in front of my computer working on stuff anyways, so I'm not really losing any time.
>>332954957
Ok, I'll compare it with KH. Better? And here's the thing. IT'S A FUCKING DIFFERENT SERIES. Now I got that out of the way. Since you've played ALL FFs, well you claimed you did, how's the combat from that series? Good? Or easy as hell? Here's my opinion about why XV has easy as fuck combat for an action game. Because, the series never have hard combat to begin with. They're slowly transitioning the game to a more action oriented game. And since their fanbase (well, some i suppose) are casuals and jrpg goers that are used to picking options out of menus, and that their afraid that some might turn off with from the game because of the sudden change of style. And they're making XV their new entry level game for newer audience since they knew their fanbase is getting old such as myself and always seems to be cranky all the time, like you. That's why they went with the open world meme game for fuck sakes. It's not for us, it's for the future.
>inb4 should've stayed with turn based
You do know how jarring and weird to see a highly detailed model standing on a straight line waiting to attack and get attacked. And don't bluff, turn based games just don't work with open world game.
In conclusion, it's needless to compare the game. But I still think the combat works as a FF game. Sorry that I said you weren't interested in the game.
>>332950104
At least it's a controllable airship, do you want to go back to FF X and XII? Or how about no Airships at all?
why do all the characters look like angsty teenage edge lords
>>332956714
>IT'S A FUCKING DIFFERENT SERIES. Now I got that out of the way
Means nothing. They're the same genre of game, and the core principles behind games of the same genre should be consistent.
>Since you've played ALL FFs, well you claimed you did, how's the combat from that series? Good? Or easy as hell?
I have, and it is good. It's also a different style of combat entirely, so your comparison is moot. Go pick up one of the older ones and try to just spam attack and see how long you last in the game. If you're claiming you can beat the game like that, you haven't actually played any of them.
The rest of your post is a load of bullshit that pretends FF games had easy turn based combat, the fans only played those games, and that when shifting genres they should make the next game piss easy to "not scare away the fans" because as we know the fans can apparently only play really easy and simple games.
>>332951079
Oh, you flatter me. Either way, I liked the effects, and whoever voiced english young noctis did a solid performance.
>Inb4 Your opinion is wrong hurr durr
>>332957178
>"Cute" comment
>Talk about something unrelated to comparing the games
>Shit taste in English VAs
>"But don't tell me what a fucking moron I am ;)"
You're a fucking moron.
>>332956621
Good choice. That version fixed everything that was wrong with 12 and turned it into a great experience.
>>332955689
This again. They only decided to use the assets of a dead game. They could have easily write a new game. But they didn't foresaw that transitioning to a different console requires them to redo all of the assets. And with the SJW bullshit that's going on right now, they've even had to change the story AND the entire universe of the the game to coincide with the culture that's plaguing the industry.
>>332939305
Sasuke Uchiha
>>332939305
You were born?
>>332956621
it would be neat with a FFXII HD, but we probably wont see it for a while, if ever
>>332957392
So this is the power
>>332956617
>le ironic comment not actually offering any rebutal
Nice.
HOW DID WE GO FROM THIS...
>>332954354
Now that is just ridiculous
and I love it.
...TO THIS???
>>332957392
SILKY SMOOTH
PS4 CAN'T HANDLE FIREWORKS
>>332957819
Wait? Is this not going to be in the full release of the game? Can we not do team combo's or something like that? I thought that idea was pretty badass how people in your party can save you or how you could do combo attacks.
>>332940142
Noctis is a gangly kid and controls like a gangly kid in the demo. Why does no one seem to realize this?
>>332939305
Why the fuck is /v/ a bunch of contrarian edge lords?
There was nothing wrong with the demo. The landscapes are incredible.
>>332939305
I don't even know.
>>332957976
It probably is, the latest trailers still show off team combos. It's just that there were no party members in the demo.
>>332957925
Oh, nevermind. You're just bitching about the fact that the game added button inputs instead of letting the player parry without the hand holding.
Go back to Dark Souls, I hate the souls fanbase. They bitch about anything that isn't grueling challenging and difficult, if you don't like that this game doesn't mimic Soul games then just don't buy and go play something else. Let the rest of us enjoy it.
>>332957648
Colossal piece of trash son of a Fucking cumdumpster bitch!!!
I am here to make you the biggest cuckold ever existed!
>>332954354
GoGo Gadgeto Car
>>332957925
>hold square: defend
Wonder what all the fanboys who thought that this shit wasn't just a drawn out animation for a simple action are doing now
Can't wait for the Noctis X Dante lewds.
>>332958135
post more VERSUS
>>332940850
This webm made me realize something
>i'm too stupid because i can't do that
>/v/ are a bunch of shitters who don't even know how to play a game
>never listen to /v/ ever again
>>332957070
Waaa waaa why can't XV be like KH.. Waaaa waaaa.. And..
>FF
>hard
Kek. Except for SMTs. FF’s combat are abusable and as piss easy as any other JRPGs. And don't bluff like you can't grind the shit out of every FF and cruise all the way to the end. If you wanna play a KH-esque game, go and fucking play KH. If you don't like XVs combat, then fine, there are people that liked it. But acting all smug and shitting on something that someone else like and pretending like you're the voice of the fanbase is fucking stupid and delusional.
>>332958117
I like what I am seeing. In particular the aerial combat, while it seems a bit slow it sure is spectacular.
>>332958546
Remember when FF was turn based? What the fuck happened?
I heard the FF7 remake is gonna be the same fucking action RPG bullshit too, if I wanted that i'd play fucking Crisis Core or KH for fuck's sake
>>332958217
>Bring up another game out of nowhere and try to demonize the fanbase
The shills are trying so hard.
>>332958217
hahahaha
>>332958575
>You can grind in KH so it's easy
>I can't stop sucking on all these dicks!
If you want to be shit at games and shill FFXV, then go to gamefaqs or reddit. Don't act like you have any idea what you're talking about and get mad that people on /v/ actually play games.
>>332952089
>Implying it isn't there anymore
It is now more focused in homaging the movie "Stand By Me", yes, but I don't think they threw out the tragic lovers and shady politics of Versus entirely. Maybe they are mixing both tonnes.
So can anyone confirm whether or not that Assassin's Creed-robes dude is still in the game?
>>332958656
I remember it perfectly and it was SLOW as Fuck and ridiculously grindy. Try to play FFVII now: you will regret it.
The best compromises for jrpg is the Xenoblade combat system: it seems you are playing an action game while in reality you have to use a little strategy.
>>332940660
Even worse, there's no option to gangbanga Chocobo.
>>332943060
Next time I go to the diner I'm going to ask them to put a fried egg in my burger
looks good
>>332939305
>no female cast
The ENTIRE reason I play final fantasy gameu is to have my own harem of sexy bitches to save the world with.
When you introduce the "boy band" style it ruins my fantasy and the narrative crumbles.
>>332958948
But guys can be cute too, senpai dono.
>>332958135
>>332958546
>>332958650
>you will never play this game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU
>>332959048
boys are _NOT_ cute and can never replace girls
>>332958868
>strategy
>xenoblade
Come on man. Even Undertale and The Witcher 3 had harder combat.
>>332959149
girls are for loving, not for putting in danger
>>332959149
>2012+4
>Not knowing how superior is sex with man
>No acknowledge of homo herotic brotherhood
You must be an insufferable faggot, don't you?
>>332958868
SMT or Bravely Default are better.
>>332950195
they spent half their budget on florence and that other garbage instead of using their resources to perfect the game
SE trying to pull a fast one and it's gonna bite them in the ass
again
>>332958217
jesus christ I can smell the sweat
>>332959402
>>332959338
>>332959048
Neo-/v/, ladies and gentlemen!
>>332958781
>Grinding in KH
I said grinding in FF’s. Oh and uh, nice counter argument old man. Don't you have kids to feed instead of replying to me. Oh, and for the record, I did play DD, DMC, KH, DSouls, AssCreed, I can list more, but I don't want your veins to pop. And those games are the at the top tier of action games. But you don't see me complain about XV. I just enjoy it for what it is instead of shit-flinging on /v/.
>>332958217
Holy fuck.
>>332959154
I never said Xenoblade combat is strategical. Actually I said it plays like an action game but you need to calculate timing of special move, just a simple veil of strategy.
But FFVII combat is totally outdated, it is so fucking slow and boring.
I understand why SE re-re-re-released it with Xp boosters and less battles.
>>332959548
>I said grinding in FF’s.
Sorry, it's hard to keep up with your shitposting. I mis-typed that.
>I totally played all these games, I just happen to LIKE eating shit, ok?
That's nice. Now make sure to do your homework for the weekend before the last minute tomorrow night.
is there a way to skip the kid part and go to the golem fight
>>332958217
you need to wank one out, jesus
>>332952126
MODS Ban this underage scum¡¡
>>332959545
A Fucking cuckold kissless virgin, ladies and gentlemen!
>>332957925
Blame the japs. Apparently ED was too hard for them. Fucking japs and their shit taste.
>>332954354
it would be a disaster if cars could actually do this
people drive bad enough on the road
>>332959759
nope and you can't save either
don't know what they were thinking with this demo, everything just feels like it was never meant to be published
>>332940850
Honestly the combat LOOKS really good and I feel like grown Noctis really wasn't that bad, but the demo does an AWFUL job of introducing the combat systems to the player and kid Noctis controls like garbage so at that point you don't have a very good impression.
I re-fought that boss a few times to try to get a better hang of the combat system and I feel like there's definitely some depth there but it's just really hard to appreciate with the way they laid out the demo.
Also the terrible, inconsistent framerate makes consistently executing combos feel like shit, especially when I've been coming off a Dark Souls 2/Bloodborne binge lately.
>>332959926
Is this some sort of trigger warning?
>>332940850
I went out, bought Type-0 from my local game store, came home, downloaded the Final Fantasy XV demo, and, less than an hour later, sold it back to the game store. The clerk didn't even bat an eye. In short, I "rented" the game and "bought" the demo.
>>332959680
Oh, sorry papa, but I think you've been on /v/ for too long now, that you've turned into /v/ itself. Do proceed to kill yourself. Games are meant to be enjoyed, not being used as a medium to shitpost on /v/, papa.
>>332960235
This is a new level of autism
>>332960345
Papa Roach?
>>332959774
You're probably rightI just wish I had someone to do it for me
>>332960345
>not being used as a medium to shitpost on /v/, papa.
But that's what you're doing, sport. That's what all you redditors have been doing since 2012. We actually used to play and talk about games here.
>>332959817
>Apparently ED was too hard for them.
Is it just me or the combat felt so slow?
I watched all those cuhrazy videos but after playing the demo, it felt slow
Also
>We want the Mexican audience
>>332939305
The combat
>>332960747
the combat moves fast and looks super sweet, but the player inputs are very slow to register and make Nocits react, so half the time it feels like you are wresting to make him do what you want him to do
>>332960953
If this is at least 60% true then SquareEnix fucked up badly.
>>332944672
Wish we knew exactly why it was cancelled?
It looked better and more complete than all of XV so far.
>>332960735
It's the feedback from the japs. And SE have to cater to them because one of their goal is to “revitalise” the console market in Japan but the way I see it Sony pushed SE into selling their consoles. Corporates, there's no holding them back is there.
>>332960730
Don't worry papa, you fit really well here in /v/. Please stay bitter like the rest of /v/. And you'll be fine. I'll come by visit you and ma over the weekends.
>>332961502
What a bunch of casuals.
>>332961140
the auto-dodge mechanic itself is fucked by design:
>Hold down a button to auto-dodge
>Noctis will dodge in a random direction, which will probably not synch up with what the player had in mind.
Seriously, being able to dodge in a chosen direction is simple shit nowedays. The game even has a manial dodge but that shit doesn't work since it doesn't make you invincible while you are doing it and you can't use it to cancel out of moves.
Also, am I the only one who is super annoyed that Noctis moves when you press an attack button?
If the enemy is slightly out of reach, he flies towards it. Even worse if when there are multiple enemies, he just flies towards the one that has the lock-on, instead of the close one you were aiming your analog stick at.
Why not just have him swing his weapon EXACTLY when you press the button? That way it would be possible to time your attacks way easier.
Idon't think I have ever been more dissapointed with a video game before
>>332954279
FFXV Kun here, I am okay with a PC release at ay point sooner or later and am neither pro-console nor pro-PC.
>>332957819
Looks exactly the same as the one in the tech demo minus the party because they weren't in the tech demo
If you played ED then you know Party members join parry counter finishers if they are near noctis
>>332957925
Looks identical
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>>332959135
XV looks so much better its crazy
>>332957976
I just saw a dude on stream do that block, if that's what you're talking about. And the team combos were in ED.
>>332961673
>I'll come by visit you and ma over the weekends.
You're 18 now. You're not allowed back in my house. Pay your own damn bills.
>>332952089
The road trip was always there and Stella was just turned into Luna
>>332961752
>10 years in developing hell
This is depressing. Auto-dodge, auto-attack... it is like they designed this shit for complete retards.
Now I understand why they stated it isn't an action game but you have to use strategy: you actually have to foresee what will be the automatic outcome of your input.
I hope it will bomb hard.
>>332961752
Right when the demo started, I thought "Man this looks beautiful."
About 4 seconds into actually controlling him, my heart sank.
>>332955023
>pressing 2 buttons over and over again to win the combat which is slow as fuck, does not provide any challenge at all and takes a fucking long ass time looks "fun as shit"
>>332961752
It's not random, you dodge in the direction you are facing or moving
>>332962282
So you are retarded.
>>332962567
dude comeon. I was facing the Iron Giant, even running towards him, but Noctis kept dodging backwards or to the sides instead of towards him, so I kept getting out of range to where I couldn't attack the fucker
>>332962551
But that's wrong
>>332961752
The thing people misunderstand about the auto attack and auto is a base issue.
Auto attack is meant for trash below your level, it's the stand in for an auto resolve on lower mobs you don't want to waste time on.
But here's the thing I see most people not get. Auto dodge and auto attack aren't random. They're fully controlled. You can manipulate your attacks and dodges, and switch weapons. without depressing the dodge or attack buttons. This allows you to string combos, change directions and effect the type of attack via weapon swapping and directional input.
It's not what you think it is at all.
>>332961752
Especially since you almost can't not lock on
You have to be at the other side of the area for the auto soft lock to go away
Who thought this was a good idea
I thought the fucking team that made KH2 works on this, yet it took them 10 years and multiple fan feedbacks to create something with so many flaws
>>332962752
Are you an idiot? You realise that side steps and backflips are part of the directional inputs when attacking with the sword right? Dodging only dodges into the direction you are facing or moving. There is nothing random about it.
>>332962795
Why do people insist on opening their mouths when they obviously know nothing?
Remember when ED came out, packaged with Type-0? We knew before thent hat a new director had stepped in and changed everything. Originally Versus/XV was meant to have an evolved and polished for of KH2 combat. Ever since the new director stepped in, that was thrown in the trash and they've been playing with this bullshit combat system instead.
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>>332963072
XV-kun is getting kinda out of hand now
>>332962672
>Comments without reading the replies
>You are retarded
Good boy, mommy didn't tell you to stop shitposting and go to be? It is late! Tomorrow those dicks will not suck themselves.
