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>Anime
>Full length CGI movie with actual celebrities doing voice work
>Mobile phone game
>Audi car

Square is banking so hard that Final Fantasy XV will be the next Final Fantasy VII. I mean, Tabata himself said that he wants XV to sell 10 million units and then surpass Final Fantasy VII. If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted. Not even Final Fantasy VII Remake or Kingdom Hearts 3 will save them.

I will admit, I love their confidence thinking XV will be the rebirth of JRPG and the best Final Fantasy game of all time but if this whole XV franchise thing fucking backfires.. /v/ is Final Fantasy XV to big to fail? There is literally a decade worth of hyped around it
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The fact that it's a mainline FF game ensures that it will sell a few million units alone
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It's not going to dip below 5 million, regardless of anything else. Its too big a name, with too much hype, to not do well.

The deciding factor in if it reaches the 10 million units sold goal will be the marketing and reviews - normies will usually buy any sufficiently shilled AAA, openworld ARPG normally, but given the stigma against XV's boyband leads and the XIII trilogy it'll need to put in extra effort.

If it can do that and get the sort of person who buys five games a year at most interested like VII did, then it'll reach that goal. But its a big if.
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IT'S OVER.

SQUARESOFT IS FINISHED.

THE COMPANY WILL RENAME TO ENIX [ ] (Enix Square)
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>>332937059
This will be the game that will kill SE won't it?

And maybe this will also kill the japanese AAA industry
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Didn't the FF XV Ultimate Edition shit that cost fucking $270 sell out in a hour? Square knows this game will sell like hot cakes regardless if it's shit or not
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>>332937059
Want to surpass FF7 in sales.
FF7 was on both pc and console
>release game on consoles
hurrka durrka someone dropped a nuke on us and now were fucking retarded.
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>>332937856

Well Final Fantasy Spirits Within bombing so fucking hard killed Squaresoft. If XV bombs just as hard, then Square will die
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It's not going to bomb, not matter how shitty it is.
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I can see why they would make an anime.
But making a full 3D fucking feature film was completely unnecessary, especially to their budget.
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>>332938690

They need as much marketing as possible. XV needs to sell 10 million to make a profit.
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Fuck square, I hope they go bankrupt after this. I'm not buying final hearts, (brought to you by Audi) and I sincerely wish that they tank and learn a lesson about their audience.

More likely, the fags who like kingdom hearts will eat this shit up, and we'll end up no final fantasy game ever again because IT'S LITERALLY OK WHEN SQUARE DOES IT.
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>>332937059
It's going to bomb.

Like, the development budget is so fucking over-the-top that it basically needs to get around 10 million to justify its existence. They've spent so much money and so much time (it was announced in 2006) working on it that a big, hefty 5 million copies - which under any normal conditions would be a massive success - won't be nearly enough to double its budget.

As far as I'm concerned, this is Square Enix's swansong. They might as well bankrupt themselves with style.
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>>332938276
kek mad pcuck
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>>332938276
Console owners collectively make up a larger demographic than pc gamers, you fucking retard.
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It all depends on whether they can get western normies to buy it. The last real FF was XIII, from 2009-2010, which is a lifetime away in terms of how much the industry has changed for the worse.
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>>332938997
How does making an animated movie that won't even release in theaters help with marketing?
The only people who will watch the movie are people who are going to buy the game anyway.
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>celebrities doing voice work

I wish this waste of money and time right here would fuck off. Sincerely.

Never has there been a celebrity who did good voice work in a video game.
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>>332939275
If my normie friends who have never even heard of FF before XV say they want to suddenly play XV then that's definitely a sign.
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With FFVII, they made the game, and then they expanded on it post-release, gradually.

With this game they're going all-in even before it is published. Reeks of hubris.

It's not surprising though, because FFXV actually started as a sort of spinoff of FFXIII (as did Type-0) so it's actually an extension of another game's hubris.
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>>332939465
>never even heard of FF
Literally impossible.
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>>332939438

Does anyone even care or buy a game because a character is voiced by a celeb? I think is a waste of money.
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>>332939683
you'd be surprised
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>inb4 it crashes as hard as spirits within
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>>332939438
Kiefer Sutherland made a good Snake for all twenty of his lines.
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>yfw they have a playable ff7 remake demo packaged with the game
>yfw it becomes profitable because ff7 fags still gargle square's cum.

Gj ff7 kiddies. You are the cancer that made advent children profitable.

No turn based no buy
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>>332937059
>I mean, Tabata himself said that he wants XV to sell 10 million units and then surpass Final Fantasy VII
Stop reading Kotaku, for fuck's sake. They don't need to sell 10 million.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-15-director-clarifies-10-million-sal/1100-6436227/
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>>332939806
Nobody said they did.
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>>332939275

Wasn't the Final Fantasy XV Uncovered event trending on both Twitter and Facebook? Those are the two biggest places for normies on the net. Normies have been eating this shit up.
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I still havent downloaded the demo because I only hear negative things about it and I really want this to be good.
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>>332939729

It IS a waste of money.
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>>332939882
Nearly for the whole day, yeah. It was at 100k+ tweets, IIRC.
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>>332939908
Just play it, it's fun.
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It's gonna be shit but still sell like gangbusters on name recognition alone.
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>with actual celebrities doing voice work

How is this good? Why not use the VA's from the game? Changing voices kills immersion and celebs can't do voice work for shit. That's why VA's do VA work. Because they specialize in VA.
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>>332939882
Street Fighter has trended in twitter and SFV can't even break 1 million in physical copies.
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They're setting themselves up for failure when they don't need to. I understand they take a lot of pride in Final Fantasy, but for god sakes, you should be aiming for 5m, not 10m with a game about a kpop band going on a road trip.
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>>332938276
FF7 came later on PC where there was Half Life, I mean fucking Half Life, dunno if you have heard about the game but when it came it was so amazing. It was the talk around the PCuck community everywhere. While the PSone crowd only talked about muh FF and mgs.

>>332937059
if it fails it would probably make Square only banking on the episodic games. So kh3 will be episodic the same with all of their games, or they will force a franchise out of 15 like they did with 13. But they will not take a huge risk again for awhile.

Also they are milking FF now, what is it 2 FF games that are coming?
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>>332938276
Why sell on a platform where everyone just pirates your shit?
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>>332940273
Square Enix is probably delusional and pretentious enough to think that their tie-in movie (which serves no real purpose) is just like a real live action film and thus requires live-action actors and not voice actors.
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>>332940273
Movie actors voice animated movies all the time. Just look at any American animated movie from the last 20 years.
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>>332940273
Because it makes sure normie sites talk about the game and that makes sure normies know about it.

I've seen a fuckload of people mention it on FaceBook just because it has Cersei Lannister, Ned Stark, and Jessie Pinkman involved and they love their shows.
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>>332937059
I doubt It'll surpass 7, but I just want it to be good. What celebrities are in it? I hope it doesn't turn into another Destiny fiasco.
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>>332940390
But they're not aiming for it. The 10 mil figure was just the team's "wouldn't it be nice if it sold that much eventually".
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>>332940482

Cant wait for all the breaking bad X FF jokes and parodies.
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>>332940273
>hire multiple celebrities to voice act
>have the actors do promo videos of the game
>dont have their names on the actual cover art

If they're trying to make games more like movies then might as well copy that part. Billing is important for a movie's success..
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>>332939908

It's alright. It introduced a few new things to the gameplay (Manual Weapon Switching, Magic, Driving) It's very short but it does have some replay value to it because there is secrets that you will definitely miss on your first playthrough.
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>>332940475
I know and they all sound like shit (themselves). VA's can augment their voices and also portray emotion greatly through their voice. Celebs don't necessarily study or specialize in this field.
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>>332940652
I don't think any celebrities are in the game itself, but they got Sean Bean for the CG movie.
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>>332937059
>was supposed to be a spinoff FF
>took longer to make than even FFXIII
>change directors 3/4 of the way through
>the protagonists regular attacks look like cloud's omnislash from AC

I see a lot of bad signs about it but at the same time I hope it does really well. They spent a decade working on it and it looks pretty good.
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>>332940652
You do realize that Destiny is one of the best selling games right now?
Fuck, it made me so depressed to learn that having a shitty persistent world, plot that makes no sense and obviously over hype and marketing was the games strong suit.
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>>332940779
Hold up CG movie? Like Advent Children CG movie? I just saw a post about something called kingslaive and a picture of an anime on /a/
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If they wanted to surpass VII they should've thought a fucking lot more about worldwide appeal. A boyband crew for main characters sure isn't going to cut it, that alone will turn off thousands of people.

And 10 million sales is a laughable goal. They'll probably end up somewhere around 2-3 million. And with all the fucking bullshit they're throwing on the side with the anime and feature length CGI film and the fucking car, they probably won't even break even.
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>>332940946
Yes, Kingsglaive is the movie. There's also a short free anime series (only the first episode is out right now)
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>>332940946
yes, the cgi movie is like Advent Children the anime is for free trough jewtube.
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>>332939786

Right? I don't remember a single line he said. For all that money they paid him, you would've thought he would have had some hammy lines for fun.
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>>332938107
Sold out in about 15 minutes. 9 million bucks were made off of pre order after the first 30 minutes
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>>332939275
>The last real FF was XIII

No, the last real FF was X.
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>>332940970
FFXIII sold very well and this game look sa lot less shitty.
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>>332938107
You mean the limited edition that was bought by scalpers to sell to collectors and the little die hard fans they still have? Yeah completely representative.
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>>332940970

This. FF7 was popular because of the Tifa versus Aeris debates. There wont such a thing here so it cant beat FF7.
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>>332941123
His "That's right. Don't blame yourself. Blame me." line was pretty good.

You know, from the final mission that got cut from the game. What a shitshow.
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>>332939438
>>332939729
They're doing voice work for the movie, not the actual game.

>>332939563
It kinda feels like Mighty No. 9 to me except with longer delays and less hilarious PR disasters.
>With this game they're going all-in even before it is published. Reeks of hubris.
At least they won't be shitting on established characters and plots with unnecessary Gackt cameos and stuff.
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>>332941148
I saw a faint semblance of it with that Luna and that other girl.
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>>332941146
And it's now selling for $900 on ebay.
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>>332937059
>If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted.
PLEASE let it bomb.
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>>332939438

Liam Neeson did a good job as your dad, even though the character did fuck all

why does bethesdsa hire such big talent and then have them do fuck off?
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>>332941148
Yuffie will win this time.
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square can go fuck off and die tbqh family
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>>332940273
>celebs can't do voice work for shit.

I dunno about you, but I thought The Fantastic Mr. Fox was great. Especially Willem Dafoe.
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>>332941327
>why does bethesdsa hire such big talent and then have them do fuck off?
Same reason everyone else does, in the hopes that people will buy the game to hear the shitty performance of an actor who they don't know is a part of the game.
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>>332941027
>>332941089
Ah ok. Sounds cool.
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>>332940437
Why sell on a platform where everyone just buys used games from each other and borrow them, you don't make any money from that.
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>>332941148
the fuck are you talking about?
FF7 was not popular because of that when it came, it was talk around the magazines about the fucking CGI, I shit you not.

The CGI was the real talk, later came the whole whom is the best waifu and that shit. Before it was just oh man look at em graphics and cgi.

I have a fond memory of the talks since now I remember how retarded it was.
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>>332940946
http://www.jp.square-enix.com/kingsglaive/

Will be worth a watch just for the godly SEVW CGI.
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>>332940437
Why should I be punished for the crimes of others?

t. Normie PCuck
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>These people wanting Square to go bankrupt

No not now. I want Kingdom Hearts 3 first, then Square can fuck off forever
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>>332941589

>wanting the jew to use the samurai to shill frozen

>being a literal cuck
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>>332941536
Indeed. It also had one of the biggest marketing budgets ever - 100+ million dollars, without adjusting for inflation. It didn't become popular out of nowhere; Square and Sony created that popularity themselves.
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>>332937059
I bought a ps4 for this
I hope the demo gameplay doesn't disappoint me, although im sure it will
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>>332939786
Kiefer wasnt expensive

Since when was that guy relevant?
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>>332941536

It was good cgi. The prerendered backgrounds made the game look better than anything on the N64.
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>>332941129
FFXIII had a lot of hype behind it and people had no idea how bad it would be. Since it released, FF has lost a lot of fans and people are generally more critical of the franchise, and more hesitant to buy into a new one.
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>>332939309
It's releasing in theaters. Already confirmed it will start showing in July in Japan.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-31/kingsglaive-final-fantasy-xv-cg-film-staff-japanese-theatrical-screenings-revealed/.100506
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>>332939683
I was surprised how many people under the age of 20 do not know who Cloud Strife is. A friend and I were freaking the fuck out over Cloud coming to smash 4 and almost everyone else was like "who the fuck is Cloud?"

Keep in mind, we're seniors and almost all of them are freshmen
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>>332937059
The biggest thing against it is the homo vibe
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I'm hyped as fuck for it. Finally rid of turn based (I loved previous FF games, but it needed a shake up) the secrecy has given the whole thing an air of mystery, and the platinum demo has made me want it more. Give me it now, you bastards.
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>>332939729
Kiefer Sutherland could have elevated Snake to a whole new level if he had more lines, he's a fantastic voice actor. Can't really think of any others though.

It's probably not worth it in the end anyway since they're just too expensive, but I wouldn't say it's a complete waste either.
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>>332939309

they are building up that hype missile to strike the WTC right in the jew
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>>332939786
To be fair, that's because Hackjima cut most of his lines out.

Sutherland actually enjoyed the work, and it seemed to have turned him on to acting in vidya.
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>>332941936

Time to get new friends anon.
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>implying they wont make their money back
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>>332940482
This.

I saw normal people mentioning the trailer and were gonna watch it just because it was headlined by Cersei, Ned, and Jessie. They were saying things like: "Wow! Cersei's in an animated movie! :)" and shit. The marketing works.
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>>332941936
>in media class in high school
>we get to watch the matrix and analyze it
>mfw only me, my friend and maybe 2 others in the entire classroom had seen it before

I used to think everyone had seen that movie.

THEN AGAIN, most of the class were girls. Can't expect anything from them.
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>>332941751
Maybe all of the shit they releasing is a way of marketing the game, the cgi movie the jewtube anime and the mobile game? Since mobile is popular as fuck in Japan, so if they have a little hur dur ff15 on ps4 the Japs might go and buy it, if the mobile game is good.


I mean, they made Microsoft publish Tomb raider that was not great but was good. I did not hear or see anything about it, even tough it was a fine game.
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>>332937059
I've already logged more than 13 hours on the skimpy demo alone. This game will most definitely raise the benchmark for RPGs.
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>>332942234

>only in first place

>not in first and second place

its doomed, desu
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>>332941146
Are you intentionally dense and ignoring the fact that they still get the money from the initial sales?
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>>332941876
>Since it released, FF has lost a lot of fans and people are generally more critical of the franchise, and more hesitant to buy into a new one.
Yeah but you also have to consider people who aren't FF fans that are only hyped because this is a new entry in an big name series that they aren't entirely invested in. FFXIII and XIV probably did turn a lot of people off from the series, but XV will still probably sell well. Even if it doesn't, it certainly won't be 2-3 million.
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There's no point in asking for a company go bankrupt people. I know it took them too long and all, but to be honest, at least they aren't acting like the western companies in just jewing out anything every year.
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>>332942141
I lived in a dorm at the time, what can I expect. At least my classmates knew what I was talking about.
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>>332937059
>Audi car

This still confused the shit out of me. Surely that money could've gone to more Collector's Editions.
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>>332937519
So you mean most of v? Because 90% of this board buys games strictly based on reviews. As if reviews should exist at all, great you think a game sucks. Why does that affect me?
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>>332940378
And it's exclusive to one console and in a fairly niche genre.
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>>332939438
New Vegas had Danny Trejo, Zachary Levi, Dave Foley and more in incredibly memorable roles
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>>332939683
I know lots of people man. Lots who play and play but don't know about shit before.

>>332942643
Audi is sponsoring the movie as well. SE didn't pay for that.
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>>332939795
>Advent Children was a great movie with impressive visuals that still hold up today
>Action Cross Battle system has been proven to be miles better than boring turn-based due to the Platinum Demo
Anon... I don't think you've ever actually played a Final Fantasy game.
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3.4 million

1m pc sales lifetime after that.
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>>332939438
Troy Baker
Kiefer Sutherland
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>t-they don't actually expect close to 10m
Are you people serious? They were very dissapointed TR didn't sell 4m after a month or some shit. This thing has way more marketing push. Pretty much thrown everything including the kitchen sink behind it.
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thank god it's safe here

>>332937059

>If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted.

lolwut
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>>332939908
I have legit been playing it non-stop. Blot out the PKEKS and naysayers. It's really great.
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>>332942817
Final Fantasy has generally had pretty shitty turn based combat, but I can assure you that FFX and FFX-2 will play better than FFXV.
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>>332942956
>japanese game
>rpg

Normies won't buy it.
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>>332942872
Add another 3m for Xbox One
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>>332942342
This is exactly what they're doing. The anime fans are finding about the game through the anime, the normies are curious because Breaking Bad and GoT and so on.
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>>332943080
No my prediction is 3.4m ps4+xbone combined

pc release 2/3 years after that, lifetime sales of 1m
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>>332942956
They've changed their management since then.
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>>332943207
No way in Hell that'll happen.

Even the Witcher 3 has beat that.
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>>332943080

More like 3 copies.
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>>332940970
Having an all-star male cast is one of the reasons that this is a Day One buy for me.
>No Bitches
>Bros Only
Also... Yes I love the edgy dark clothing and the general direction they're going for.
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>>332937059
>Bloodborne, most popular game on the PS4, only sells 2 million copies
>expecting five times this amount
WEW
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>>332943080

Final Fantasy games dont sell on Xbox.
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>>332943275
TW3 sold 10 million in a single year.
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>>332943320
Male cast is whatever, it's their teenage edgelord getup that kills it for me.
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>>332943410

No it didnt. It sold 6 million.
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>>332937059
Square simply realized they wasted too much time on all those bullshit lightning games instead of making this and let a single ambiguous trailer build for like eight years

A game that has that long to be released will either be the best game ever made or the worst game ever made, the hype backlash is too strong for any other opinion.

Square is just going all in, which is a pretty smart move. There's no way this is gonna bankrupt them when they only this week canceled FF11, have FF14 going strong and have tons of publishing deals for other companies games and anime
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Just played the demo.

I like the way it didn't take itself as seriously as I thought it would, the shrinking down was a bit like Alice in Wonderland.

The combat is a bit repetitive though.

Overall it surprised me and I will probably get it.
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>>332937059
10 million was their personal goal, not a financial goal or their sales expectation
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>>332943673

Its going to be Duke Nukem Forever 2 and you all know it.
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No offense, I don't know how you guys underestimate the Final Fantasy franchise that much.

Yes it's not as popular as before, but that doesn't mean it will just not sell well.
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>>332939438
gta
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Just a reminder that the bonus weapon that comes with the Day One edition of XV is different for each region.

>UK gets Zidane's Mage Mashers
>Japan gets Lighting's Blazefire Saber
>Spain gets the Gae Bolg from XIV
>US gets the XV version of Masamune
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>>332943398
Then why did Type-0 come out, and why did they make XV for Xbox if XIII apparently didn't sell?
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>mfw all this elaborate marketing bullshit because the game is a mess
Well SE always wanted to be like big western devs.
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>>332943507
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/witcher-3-ships-almost-10-million-copies-report/1100-6435592/
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>>332944013

>ships
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I still cant get over the whole boy band look the characters have. Fit body, leather and cool hair for each one, I wouldn't be surprised if the characters broke out into singing songs like some J-pop shit while attacking monsters.
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>>332944013
Ships not sold
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>>332939438
>Implying
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>>332937059

From the demo, we already see it's nothing revolutionary or new. It's a modified Kingdom Hearts game, but with a fuckton of anime stuff.

It was a bad idea for them to announce this game in '06, and it was a bad idea to let people know that both KH3 and a FF7 Remake are in development, because those two will kill FFXV. KH3 alone will kill it, really.

It's a good game but it's not the revolutionary JRPG they want you to believe it is.
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>>332943972

Microsoft paid them to sell more Xboxes but majority of the people bought the games for playstation just like the new Metal Gear.
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>>332944052
>>332944139
Publishers get their money from retailers, not end customers.
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It's just like Final Fantasy 13 all over again
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>>332944256
>KH3 alone will kill it, really.
Do you honestly believe anyone will see XV and say "Nah, I'll just wait 18 months for KH"?
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>>332944256

>It's a modified Kingdom Hearts game, but with a fuckton of anime stuff.

Fuck yeah I am getting it now. I love Kingdom Hearts combat so god damn much.
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>>332943970
This shit pisses me off, just let everybody have the all the content. It'd all better come with the PC version.
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>>332939438
>Never has there been a celebrity who did good voice work in a video game.

Bull fucking shit. Kingdom Hearts is a prime example of how wrong you are. If anything, KH made me realize that celebrities are sometimes even better than actual voice actors
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>>332944691
You realize that all this stuff will eventually be released as DLC everywhere right?
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>>332937461

This.

Plus the hype machine is already rolling at full speed. I don't even like JRPGs but all my friends are going nuts over FFXV, it's going to do fine.
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>>332944319
How?
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>>332945019
That's still pretty damn annoying.
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>>332944256
>It's a modified Kingdom Hearts game

Are you saying this in a positive or negative way? Because Kingdom Hearts has fantastic combat. Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix is the greatest Action RPG of all time
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No PC no care. Not buying a console only to have it go out of date 5 months later.

unless this game has as good a story as ffXII did.
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>>332938276
Somebody in the gdc already said that pc sales doesn't even Matter for the industry
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>>332945218
XII is also my favourite, easily. But XV is the worst demo I've ever played.
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>>332940970
You're delusional if you think this game will only sell 2 million.
They probably won't reach 10 but it's gonna be way more than 2
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>>332937059
What example of a AAA franchise bombing and bankrupted the big publishing company that released the game?
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FF13 sold 7 million and that game was intended for little girls and was hated by everyone. FFXV will indeed hit 10 million.
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>>332937059
Final Fantasy XV will be this years Metal Gear Solid V
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They NEED to casualize the combat. It feels way too awkward right now.
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>>332945586

Not a game but Final Fantasy The Spirits Within bombed so hard that it bankrupted Squaresoft. Squaresoft put all their eggs into a basket with that movie and it killed the company. The merger with Enix saved them
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>>332943970
Germany will probably get the Masamune
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>>332937059

So who do you think will buy Final Fantasy then when Square goes under?
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It'll only reach 10 million sales in the next 4 years if its released on PC and NX as well, otherwise I doubt more than 6 million sales since fucking nobody is going to buy it on xbone
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>>332946318
Square won't go under.
But if they did pretty much everyone would buy FF for the brand name.
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>>332946318

Sony
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>>332946318
Square won't be going under, they have Eidos and Avalanche and could sell either for crazy amounts of money.
Not saying this won't bomb, there's a good chance it will, but they won't go under.
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>>332946318
They won't make the same mistake as they did before. That mistake was too hard-hitting for them not to learn from that.
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>>332939795
Game needs option at beginning that changes the combat system to either turn based or freeform combat
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>>332946164
>spirits within came out in 2001
>the same year ffx came out followed by kh the year after
Sure thing buddy
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>>332946453
I know two people who will buy it on XBone and only one person who will buy it on PS4 (me)
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>>332946639
>sell Eidos
>risk deus ex being trashed or made shit by some faggot company
>all to save weeb FF

Crucify XV right fucking now
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>>332941146
They still get the money though. Why would SE even care who brought it and why. And anyways, SE can gauge the demand of the game just by analyzing the traffic. Please, don't leave school. You're not ready .
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>>332946716
To be fair, Spirits Within did nearly stop the merger that saved them from happening altogether.
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>>332946716

There's a reason why KH was Squaresofts last game
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>>332941319
>Source : my ass
The 10m sale was the team set GOAL because they wanna overtake VII. Not to break even like some clickbait reporter from Kotaku says.
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It can't fail, its coming out on the PS4 and its 30 million install base. We are past games failing to sell on the PS4 unless its games that had nearly zero effort put into them. We are at a point where if the developer at least tried with the game, and it was marketed at least well, it's going to sell 5 million at the least if its coming out on the PS4.
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>>332946771
Final Fantasy Type-0 sold almost a 5th of the PS4 sales, and the main reason why I'd say 30-50% of people bought it was for the XV demo
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Wait the fuck up, the demo is available to everyone one now? My PS4 has been paper weight for a couple of months since I beat BB, so I haven't been paying attention to it
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>>332946797
>being made shit
>what is deus ex the fall
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>>332941126
Nice fedora
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>>332947179
Yeah, there's a new demo available to everyone.
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>>332941657
Frozen was so overrated. Fucking SE bowing to Disney to put their new movies in the game. Man, that's why there's rumour about SE taking KH away from Disney.
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>>332947419
Thanks anon, will try it out later today
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>>332940703
sausce
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>>332941502
>Buying used games
That's a mistake.

No one, especially here, is gonna be all
>pirating games
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>>332946953
Because KH bankrupted them???!
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>10 years in the making
Shit's bound to disappoint
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>>332947179
It's a tech demo that should not have been released to the public. The first one is much more of a demo
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>>332947423
>Fucking SE bowing to Disney to put their new movies in the game.
What?
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>>332938997
but it doesn't
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>>332937059
the character design..I just can't get past it..and who thought it's a good selling point to put in trailer a girly man wielding a huuuuge sword like it's nothing. it's a pass for me.
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>>332948427
Weak bait
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It looks so bad.
Empty open worlds with nothing to do.
Buildings every so often, but NPCs barely say anything, and if they do it doesn't relate to the story or they give you dumb "kill 3 monsters and come back" quests.
Combat requires no strategy or forethought.
Characters are wooden with forced-outburst "emotional" scenes that don't make sense.
Story doesn't make sense. No one's motivation is explained. Antagonist's motivation is convoluted and shrouded in mystery and doesn't make sense even when spelled out word-for-word in a datalog.
It's everything that's wrong with JRPGs.
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>>332948541
Oh shit, you've played the game? Care to share a leak? Link please.
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>>332946318
They have 200 million yearly profits now. Unless their execs suddenly run away with all their money and property, there's no way in hell they're going under.
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watching that stream was annoying. so much fluff bullshit.

any hype i had is gone.
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>>332947267
We pretend that never happened ok?!
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>>332939438
Charles Dance in Witcher 3 you cuck.
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>>332948541
The story looks pretty good from the trailer
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>>332937461
That's not true. Just looked at how much FFXIV 1.0 bombed and the player base from HW expansion is shrinking each day.
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deus ex will sell more desu
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>>332937059
It will succeed because of the hype, marketing, and casual appeal. Casuals who see the movie (and they are going to push this movie and its star power hard come e3, its free after all and has an all star cast) are going to get the game.
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>>332949105
The player base is growing
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>>332949105
But that's different, that was an MMO.
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>>332938690
its actually a really smart move. A feature length film (thats free too!) with all the hot stars of this decade? Its going to easily sell the full game to casuals who liked shit like Last of Us and Uncharted. This game is going to be an unprecedented success.
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>>332948493
..what? it's just how I feel like. Probably my problem is that i'm not teen/early 20s
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>>332940703
Reverse image gets me nowhere
Sauce pls.
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>>332940450
lol just like Pixar right?

oh wait.....
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>>332949645
The movie isn't free, only the anime is.
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>>332942746

What does Audi stand to gain from throwing in with Square? I mean it's not really their demographic for the most part. Do they expect weeb neckbeards to go out and buy a fucking Audi?
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>>332937059
They seem to be channeling the same hype they first tried with the FF VII Compilation, which did okay, and then with "Fabula Nova Crystallis", which the FF Versys XIII was meant to be a part of, but that failed hard.

With the units they'll sell in Japan alone, and an eventual PC release in the west, they might actually sell 10 million copies. Not in the first year though, in the long run. I think 7 million in the first year would already be phenomenal.

My bet is they have at least two sequels reusing assets planned like they did with FF XIII. One game won't get them their money back on the development hell and marketing. Three will.
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As someone who was never caught up in the whole initial hype so many years ago, not much about this game gets me excited. Looks alright but not exactly special in any capacity and FF stories have been shit for quite a while

I just don't get it
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>>332950006
yes? gamers are fucking imbeciles.

but the reason any car has any advertising is for brand awareness.
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>>332942961
>Ctrl+f
>DMC
>1 result
God damn, every single time.
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>>332943970
Actually UK can get both the Mage Masher (Amazon) and Gae Bolg (Game)

They probably will be on the store eventually because it's stupid that not even the Ultimate Edition doesn't get everything.
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>>332937059

>Square is banking so hard that Final Fantasy XV will be the next Final Fantasy VII. I mean, Tabata himself said that he wants XV to sell 10 million units and then surpass Final Fantasy VII. If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted. Not even Final Fantasy VII Remake or Kingdom Hearts 3 will save them.

Thanks for the update, Mr business analyst expert
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>>332937059

>Audi car

It's based off a Cadillac actually, but there are elements of a bunch of cars, including audi.
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>>332950006
>Do they expect weeb neckbeards to go out and buy a fucking Audi?

you would be surprised
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>>332940437
>Pirating with Denuvo

Not happening. At least not for another year or so>>332940652
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>>332947423
How's that going to work when they own most of the assets?
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>>332937059
>If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted
i doubt even Square would be dumb enough to put all their hopes on one game no matter how good they plan it to be
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>>332950427
The in-game car is a different one from the movie one isn't it? In-game is Cadillac, movie is Audi R8.
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>>332950427

The hood appears to open sideways like a Cadillac V16/16
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>>332947423

Where the fuck did you hear this bullshit? How the fuck is Kingdom Hearts going to work without Disney? Did you know ALL the original characters are owned by Disney. Without Disney involvement, there is no Kingdom Hearts
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>>332950845

>>332950785

Didn't know there was a movie, pics?
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>>332950991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP8EgMUVmwk
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>>332937059
>with actual celebrities doing voice work

This is never a good thing and video game companies have to get that through their heads before they all go bankrupt.
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>>332951128

Damn son, that's a shame, that R8 looks really generic in the world of final fantasy
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>needs to sell 10 million to make a profit
>people think there won't be a PC version
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>>332951439
>muh 10 million
Read the thread and stop reading gutter trash clickbait "journalism". Also, SE never denied the PC version, only that it's not their priority right now.
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How many units have FF 7 sold? 10 million is quite a huge expectation in this day and age
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>>332951128

Looks worse than Advent Children.
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>>332941657
>>332947423
They will shill Zootopia too, I'm sure.
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>>332952613
Not anime enough for you huh?
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>>332952735

Zootopia is fantastic though.
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>>332941146
Well, yes, actually.

They still get money from that shit.
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>>332942961
Am I the only one that finds the floating in mid air shit completely off-putting?
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>>332952751
The need to add gackt, but this isn't a nomura game. Expect gackt in FF7remake.
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>>332952751

Looks more anime actually. Thats why its worse.
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>>332953441
>this isn't a Nomura game
Tabata directed Crisis Core, but Gackt wasn't necessarily his idea.
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Did you guys like the Brotherhood anime? I liked it
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What the fuck is Gackt?
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>>332939908
The only bad thing about the demo is some performance issues, people complaining about the combat are literally just holding the attack button without playing with the system at all, which is kinda what you're supposed to do since there's nothing else to do as adult Noctis
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>>332953979
>what is google
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>>332953967
It was cool. It was like watching Sasuke wanting to exact revent again.
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>>332953967
Comfy as fuck, the combat was also pretty good considering the anime quality is not that high
Hyped for second episode
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>>332954412

You think I didnt try that faggot? All I get is gook sites and gook actor.
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>>332954691
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gackt
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>>332954691
Dude who cosplayed as Squall and Cloud in some PV and concerts and was the basis/voice actor for Genesis
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>>332954691
>gook actor

That's who the fuck he is, shithead. You fucking cuckold. Genesis was based off him, and he sung that fucking song in DoC.
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>>332937059
>If this bombs, Square will be bankrupted.
Damn you, OP, there's no way that would happen, you made me excited for nothing.
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So do you have to pay up front to pre order, or is it like amazon where they only charge once it ships?
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>thinking this game is not going to be shit

I hope when President Trump takes the oath of office he immediately signs an executive order demanding all games released in the US get a PC release.
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>>332939786
Kiefer cost less than Hayter.
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