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FFXV combat gameplay discussion.
What did you guys think of the demo? especially the part at the end where you could "experience the final game combat". Have you found the 2 secret adult noctis weapons yet?
What is shit:
>The fps drops a bunch of frames when fighting the iron giant making it very hard to make out what is happening and this is one small area, with one character, and one enemy.
>The fps drops to single frames when an armiger attack hits.
>The delay between pressing a button and an action coming out is way too long. It makes me very uncomfortable and the game very unresponsive due to the slow feedback.
>The directional moves feel very unresponsive because they can only be done during the ravage phase of your attacks, which requires you to carefully look at the animations to see where you are in an attack string, but since the fps is bad that's kind of hard.
>I severely dislike not having the special attacks on a seperate button like in duscae.
>control scheme is different for some reason.
>graphics are meh
What is good:
>Air mobility
>The weapon system is kind of interesting in that some weapons alow certain air actions and others have something different like blocking attacks
>Being able to weapon throw-warp repeatedly in the air.
>each weapon has it's own warp type
I'm seriously doubting my purchase. Someone confirm that this is an old build and that the final game will feel more responsive
>>332734402
It was definitely better than the original demo's combat.
That being said, something about it still felt very off and uninspiring. I didn't feel any weight behind my attacks and it generally felt very unresponsive. I'm a little worried for the final product.
>>332734692
>It was definitely better than the original demo's combat.
Well in terms of depth yes, it obviously is. But i felt that it lost the grounded feel they were always talking about, and not because of the air combat, but because of the bad response. Which is weird because in that poll they already acknowledged this and said they would improve on it.
I haven't had as much issues with the framerate as I've heard some people are having, oddly. It still drops pretty low sometimes, but I've never had it drop to single digit. Is there a video or webm to show how bad it gets?
That being said, optimization is something that happens constantly in a game's development, all the way up to going gold (and sometimes afterwards for patches). A lot of games don't hit the target framerate until a few weeks before release.
>Someone confirm that this is an old build and that the final game will feel more responsive
Very few demos are concurrent with the latest build. They have to specifically choose a stable build to use to make their demo, and that could be months old. Not to mention that demos can take months to build themselves, so that makes it even further behind the latest.
As far as being more responsive, who knows, but the game is still 6 months out so they have plenty of time to work on it.
>Press a button
>Home in on the closes faggot and play an animation
FINAL FANTASY IS SAVED
Should have been turn-based.
You can argue until you turn red that action-based combat is more fun and demanding, but it is physically impossible to emulate the depth of turn-based combat in real-time.
It's not possible and FF15 is clearly not going to be able to pull off that miracle either.
>>332734402
so 6/7 of your complaints are that it is on a console?
>>332734402
The combat was awful
Literally hold down button to win
Noctis can fly?
This gameplay is giving me a kingdom hearts vibe...
Replace donald and goofy with 2cool edgy tryhards and you have this game
>>332735484
Actually now. If the gfx were worse but the response was good then I would have no problems with it.
Unlike you pc master race fags I actually play games for gameplay, not pretty gfx and muh epic story line grinding loot fest.
>>332735598
>I actually play games for gameplay
Then why the fuck are you playing Final Fantasy?
A game series known for having legendarily stale gameplay in favor of character drama and Naruto-plot?
>people complaining about combat in a RPG
all combat in RPGs is easy unless its completely broken or retarded party ai like tales of vesperia.
>>332735769
>RPG
XV is an ARPG
>>332735573
So this is it huh? /v/ filled with Casuals? While most of the demo IS filler tech demo shit, that final fight with the golem and the vastly improved combat system makes it all worth it.
Seriously, you niggas can do aerial combat, all sorts of blocks and dodges, each weapon has multiple special moves, and a surprising amount of depth for a stripped down demo.
Oh, and if you do use the right timing, YOU CAN perfect dodge cancel from MOST attack animations- there are some that you can't (mostly great sword), air attacks you must use an aerial rave dodge, which has more strict timing and doesn't require any presses of square at all. Not every attack can be dodged by holding down square. Some attacks you must have pressed square within a certain time frame of the enemies attack.
I uploaded some videos of me doing fun stuff in the fight, maybe it can inspire you fags to not be total casuals and to try and learn the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy9ONWheKGA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5m8T9w7Eb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74yhOh1jzyc
>>332734402
Please don't refund your pre-order senpai.
The game needs to sell 10 million copies otherwise SE will cry.
You don't want SE to cry cry do you?
>>332735586
When you think about it Disney could asspull some shit about KH's gameplay being exclusive to them so putting a KH Ripoff into a main Final Fantasy that just happened to be in development hell for a fuckload of years makes a lot of sense.
>>332735915
Where the fuck did you get a shield from?
>>332735998
seatch on youtube "ffxv platinum shuriken and shield"
>>332735125
just like turn based combat :^)
>>332734402
The graphics are fucking shit
They just keep making the gameplay look worse and WORSE EACH AND EVERY SINGLE TIME
They just keep pandering to normalfags who're still not used to 3rd person view outside of shootan "games"
They just keep downgrading everything and removing everything that was cool in VS13
I lost all hope for this game.
>>332735716
Are you a viral marketer?
It is a common technique used by marketers to shitpost at people to get them to defend their game. I'm looking for an objective discussion. If you can't handle that then please leave.
>>332735915
Fucking weebshit.
>>332734402
Never played a FF game in my life, but isn't that shit supposed to be turnbased?
>>332735915
so after you kill the first monster you turn into a 10 year old?? wtf
>>332735598
>Hold button to attack
>Hold button to defend
>tfw less gameplay than a QTE.
>>332736224
Fucking reddit
>>332734402
looks like half assed floaty matrix chink shit
and the characters are blatantly homosexual
they are not even trying to hide it anymore
seriously, no shame in being a faggot in final fantasy
9 fucking years and this is their combat system? I couldn't stand it. It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me. Even if that didn't happen nonstop it's still just not fun. It's clunky, feels bare bones.
I really am stunned. There's really no better word for it. I'm glad they released a demo because now I don't have to waste money on it. I'm curious if the demo will do more harm than good, or if people will eat it up regardless. Though I'd wager most won't even try the demo before buying it.
>>332736285
These bullshit ARPGs are ruining the genre. Your interests are fucking lame.
Let's play "Guess the Sales"!
Things that will boos sales:
>every reviewer on God's green earth will give it a 10/10
>Sonyggers are terribly desperate for games
>people who were lied to through the PS3 generation might as well buy it now
Things that will drag sales down:
>it'll be shit - the demo has convinced very few people so far
>it can't live up to the hype - literally impossible at this point
>it'll be a performance mess - it'll look bad and play bad
I am going to guess 5 million copies sold after the port to PS4K/PC.
>>332736160
hi tips
>>332736281
>tfw you can just tap the buttons instead
>tfw the game rewards you for timing your dodges instead of holding defend
>tfw you're such a garbage unskilled player that you hold the buttons but you still complain about it because you want to fit in
try again jim
>>332736296
>It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me
git gud
>>332735915
>air dodge
whoa wtf
>>332736296
See, this is the problem with modern-day demos. Games aren't good anymore.
Before, demos gave you a sample of what was to come and if you liked it, you'd buy the game. Now developers fall back on hype, creating the illusion that you will like it and have you buy it on that alone.
This'll be another nail in the coffin for demos.
>>332736508
demos have been renamed to "betas"
"It's only a beta"
>>332736296
It's a fucking tech demo. The combat isn't the focus. The full combat demo won't be out till just before Sept.
>>332736296
>It didn't help that no matter when I hit the dodge button shit still would hit me.
that's likely because of the input lag.
the game feels like it would be great if it was only more responsive.
>>332736639
Are you seriously still deluding yourself into thinking this will be good?
>>332736348
it will get 7s and 8s, i guarantee you
>>332735915
Nice gameplay. Good to see that actually skilled players are doing shit. Will post some footage in a moment
>>332736343
>ARPG are ruining ARPG
Sure reddit-kun.
>>332735915
resulting in pasta now?
>>332736348
3 million for the PS4 alone. 4 when all ports are made. 5 is overplaying it.
>>332736681
hurr durr
>>332736754
Go back to 9gag, weeb.
>>332735915
People can post flashy footage of DmC, that doesn't make it good.
>ARPG
>they give you a few dumbshit AI-controlled party members
>game is balanced around you babysitting their asses instead of doing everything solo like in a real action game
My least favorite design philosophy in JRPGs.
>>332734450
you know nomura wanted this to be a musical. I think I can kind of see what he was going for.
>>332735915
Holy shitty framedrops senpai.
>>332736892
You're an idiot.
>>332736890
>weeb
Again with this redditor gager.
>>332735586
doesn't KH have good combat?
>>332735915
How the fuck do you stay in the air? That's my biggest problem with it. The only way I manage for a few seconds is using warp, but you are not spending MP. I hit a couple of times and then Noctis fall.
They should have flat out said that the demo is not focusing on the combat system. Now people really think that the combat of XV will be just like the demo or something.
>>332736892
I wish you dmcfags would fuck off. This is an arpg, not hack n slash/beat em up.
Do you have to play as a faggot?
>>332737087
Yes.
>>332737013
directional attacks keep you afloat
>>332736952
But you are a faggot weeber, bro. You're a guest here. Get your stupid animeshit out of my board.
>>332737087
Every single character looks like that, so yes. Why bother making interesting designs when you can just put everyone in boring black shit?
>>332736992
>mash X to win
Yeah, really good...
>>332737068
then how come that's what you do in this game?
>>332737145
Hilarious.
>>332737068
I wish the rest of the world would understand what makes gameplay in an action game good. It's not even about floating in mid air like most of them think. It's about having 20+ actions at every interval you can choose from and making it look good. This does wonders for every game since it increases replay value and is an interesting activity on it's own.
>>332736735
Neato.
Can't wait until someone makes a tutorial like the one fir ED.
>>332737195
That image was made by a gay person. I'm not on the anime board, you fucking queer.
>>332735915
Looks terrible
>>332737145
who let this cancer in
>>332737279
Get out retard normalfag, you're lost.
I'd love to play a new final fantasy, but I don't want to play as a JPOP wannabe. Also the combat looks like Naruto mixed with gay.
>>332737348
>/b/ is anime/random
Pffftt hahahahaha.
>>332737280
yeah who let you in
Actually I was down on it yesterday but trying the demo again I kinda enjoyed it this time. It flowed really well.
>>332737206
It's not an all out action game. It's an arpg. Go be fucking retarded somewhere else.
>>332737160
as opposed to selecting attack from a menu and watching something play out?
sounds okay to me.
>>332737279
get lost reddit.
Is there any backlash over how shit it is or are people eating it up?
>>332737494
So it has shitty action mechanics AND shitty rpg mechanics. That makes it ok, gotcha!
It all depends on enemy variety. If enemies don't challenge the player to utilize all the abilities we're given, it'll be shit.
It's fucking crap honestly.
Not buying the full game.
>>332737494
haha what so when something is wrong with the combat, you say "WELL ITS MOSTLY AN RPG SO THERE CAN BE PROBLEMS WITH THE COMBAT SO SHUT UP OKAY?" This is why I think ARPG is the stupidest genre of all time. It doesn't haven't to one or the other right because they can always fall back on "WELL ITS TWO GENRES TOGETHER SO THERE CAN BE FUCKUPS OKAY"
>>332737572
We haven't even seen the RPG mechanics.
If only they would improve the IQ at least, aliasing is ruining my eyes and everything is blurry
1080p my ass
>>332737348
>just because these boards were made they are the overlords of 4chan.
>I'am gonna go post about anime and anime related images on other boards.
Don't you have a Moeblob thread to fucking go to ? Get out of here.
>>332737652
You "play" the role of a homosexual boyband. There's your rpg mechanic.
OK, so on the topic of framerate.
I didn't notice ANY issues.
I even went back into Platinum Demo to check after seeing the response, and no matter what I did, the framerate seemed just fine.
Now I'm watching a video of someone playing PD, and the framerate is very, very noticeable.
Thing is, the person I'm watching got a PS4 at launch, and mine is only a couple months old.
So I'm wondering, is there any kind of hardware difference that might be the cause of this? Because it's seriously night and day, this video and what I've actually played.
>>332737215
I might do something once I get used to this retarded input lag.
>>332737494
Who gives a shit what it is or what you define it as? I can play any game in any way I want, and the amount of moves and mechanics are the most important factor in me having fun. That's it. There is no discussion possible on this. Stop trying to prevent me from having a good time you retarded piece of fucking butthole flexing autist.
>>332737638
There's nothing wrong with the combat though. It's it's own original system. Comparing it to DMC is just fucking moronic.
The combat is somehow even less engaging than turnbased.
Framerate dances between 12-25.
Jaggies up the ass, vaseline smeared on the screen to compensate.
Fuck it.
>all this shitposting
I just realized it's Friday night in Australia. That explains it.
>>332737601
Actually I don't need to be challenged to utilize all the abilities in a game. I can do that myself. You are just a casual who doesn't want to think but just let the game whip you into shape.
>>332738028
When I record my videos and watch the gameplay it seems better. I'm not sure why. But my ps4 is also a couple of months old.
>>332738094
i was defending the combat you dipshit
>>332738197
And I wasn't shitting on it shitdip.
>>332735915
Neat, the combat doesn't look too bad here. Definitely better than most of the combat I've seen from typical RPGs. It looks reminiscent of the stylish action genre like DMC. Probably a lot slower though.
>>332734402
>the fps drops
No it doesn't. I fought him three times and the only, only, only time it ever dropped for me was when he's alive to dead.
>>332738095
An original system that fails at action and rpg. Bravo, Square, bravo.
>>332734402
fps drops with 1 character and 1 enemy on the screen is really bad, how is it going to handle a whole party and multiple enemies?
How the fuck did Tabata green light this piece of trash of a demo in the first place. ED was already fine. Damn it SE, you blew it. Fucking blew it.
>combat is literally floaty
>samey and largely substanceless, and apparently this was so complicated they couldn't allow you to use any other party members
>coming off a game where you had more than a dozen characters with their own move sets and mechanics and combat was generally faster
I'm still not impressed.
>>332738149
Bunch of fucking criminals down there
>>332738259
It's not. If it was as smooth and responsive as DMC it'd be fine.
>>332737145
>You're a guest here.
Haven't had any issues with framerate drops. Battle system is pretty solid but I still think jumping and dodging need to be tweaked a bit and it'll be perfect.
Also I'm sure since this is a rpg and we all know how final fantasy's are, they will probably make it so you become stronger in time and hopefully increase your character's speed and jump height, etc.
Some air combo shit. Nothing new but I have to go to work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIDppfF97JE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWVGdhe3t4
>>332738494
I hope I get KHII mobility shit like high jump, glide, aerial dodge, quick run
Moving around in KHII is so much goddamn fun
>since ff10 years have passed
>no explorable world map all that time
>no airship
>new FF with world map, airship and a new battle system thats not turn based
>call it shit and point all the flaws it MIGHT have
Sometimes I forget about the key aspect of /v/
everything that is a video game will be shit, the only fun thing is complain about them.
Heh... nothing personnel...
Even if the framerate wasn't garbage, the combat feels like it's on autopilot and lacks any satisfaction
>>332738483
Your fry to leave any day, weebo.
>>332738637
Whoop, you seem to have wandered outside of your corporate funded hype hugbox.
>>332737145
Get the fucking fuck out you fucking retarded faggot. It's 4 fucking AM and the last thing I want to see is stupid fucking retarded comments from stupid ads motherfuckers like you. Fuck off this site pussy, you don't belong pussy bitch
>>332735598
No reason you can't have both. Denial is strong in you.
>>332737652
>rpg mechanics
>in a FF
haha oh wow.
>>332738382
You do have a little control of your party members though. From the Niflheim trailer you can see some actions that are tied to a certain party member (i.e the flare gun attack by prompto) is controllable by Noctis. But SE decided to strip that from this demo. That is the most stupid decision that I have ever heard.
>>332738637
people are allowed to have different opinions
It's basically Kingdom Hearts combat but in an FF game.
I like it though, turn based is such a drag. Read FFVII remake will have atb similar to FFXIII but still fast paced.
>>332738637
What did you expect, even TW3 is “trash” according to /v/
I'm loving the combat. I keep finding out new shit the more I play it. It's pretty damn good for a tech demo.
>>332735998
webm related - some other anon made it
You need 350+ crystals, and you need to have beaten the Iron Giant at least once, when it's Lv. 15 you can get these.
>>332738875
It doesn't play like KH at all.
Ever since it became XV, the combat has been more similar to Type-0 with the "hold to action" thing
>>332738637
I talk shit about games I like all the time on /v/, and a lot of other anons do it too.
>>332738964
>350
Oops meant 250.
You can even unlock a sword and hammer for chibi Noct. Also Meteorain.
>>332738827
Yes, I noticed that too. It's a step in the right direction, but it's still kind of annoying that they're pretending it's perfectly okay to have a typical JRPG party and never let you control any of them because they arbitrarily decided to give one character all the moves.
Wow, those frame drops. Confirmed normal ps4s useless. Better get that ps4k for the full experience, goyim.
How long is the demo?
>>332738964
I had over 400 before going into the final area and didn't even check to see if there was anything else.
>>332735915
This still doesn't look good. Look at how he has to keep standing at a distance, just waiting for the golem to do something. It's because the controls are so slow and unresponsive he'd get hit if he tried attacking first.
>>332739167
best way to get a buttload of crystals is to keep pressing the enemy spawn button just before the long hallway and using meteorain to kill everything
gives about 50 or so crystals, maybe 40
>>332739146
Around 30-45 if you take your time collecting, I just chilled in the 2nd area because the music was like something out of Kingdom Hearts and even the area itself was like a Disney movie.
Not as great as the demo that came with Type-0 but still great.
>>332739176
>look
why not play it and try some of that stuff for yourself?
the combat flows together quite well I've noticed - for a tech demo
can't wait for the demo close to the release with full combat
>>332738990
I honestly hate the "hold to action" trend that Type-0 (Did it really have that I never noticed) and Lightning Returns started. I honestly wish there was something similar to this games dodging mechanic with Just-Attack,but (pic related)
>>332739146
it depends
my first time was roughly 30 minutes
second time I actually found secret shit and fought the giant a few times so it was over an hour
>>332738685
It's because you don't feel the feedback from your inputs. The attacks respond too slow and don't have a clear ending or start.
If they are going to make an action game they should commit to it fully and takes cues from other action games like DMC
>do flip dodge with the sword
>oh shit
>do spin attack with greatsword
>Iron Giant stunned
>warp away and throw shurikens and blast his ass with fire
>warp attack with greatsword
>dies
fuck the combat just got fun as shit
>>332735125
Just like muh classic ff
>>332739465
I agree.
>>332735437
Well, I mean. If this was a series known for deep turn based combat I guess you'd have a point. But come on.
>FF
>deep turn based combat
>>332739359
>(Did it really have that I never noticed)
Yeah, you hold down to attack and do gestures with the analogue stick to do different moves.
But, they are all Fabula Nova Crystallis, and Tabata was the director of Type-0, so it makes sense.
>>332739465
Fuck off already retard. Copying other games is retard. They should stick to their own formula. Having hold to combo is for the casuals to enjoy the game. You can still do more complex combo if you try it out.
Saying games should copy each other is fucking cancer, and you need to die immediately.
>>332739359
It had it, but pushing buttons normally did the same thing and was often better with all the directional inputs.
>>332739465
If it's on the same level as kingdom hearts mechanics, I won't mind.
>>332739616
Agree 100%, but don't fall for such obvious b8 m8.
>>332739763
I'm sorry. Just sick of this dmc fanboys.
Why do I keep seeing webms and shit like in the OP where Noct is clearly jumping mid-air but I can't in the demo.
Someone on here even told me if you want to air dodge you should be jumping. It seriously does not work, am I missing something?
>>332739801
Air dodging in this demo is a technique of the sword, look at what it's called.
>>332734402
literally not FF anymore
It's not an action game, fags.
>>332739465
Agreed. Well at least at KH level I would be satisfied. Dmc and Bayo have some learning curve that I really.... Wait a minute... That fits exactly. DMC and Bayo style games need a certain time to be able master the controls properly. And with the time consuming style (a.k.a grinding) of JRPGs.. Fuck that is a match made in heaven.
>>332739856
So if I have the sword equiped then pressing x mid-air allows me to jump?
>>332740014
Oh, you want a double jump?
Technically you can't in the demo, but doing certain directional attacks midair with the sword allows you to jump higher.
This is not a Final Fantasy game. This looks like Sakurai went off to make a snail's paced DMC5.
Eceleb threads are more vidya related than this to final fantasy.
INSERT /v/ FOOD RELATED ANALOGY HERE.
>>332739070
If it we me, I'd nerf Noctis and let the players control all of the party member by holding the L1 button + R3 direction. At least the game won't feel as repetitive. And allowed more variety of play-style.
>no gun in the demo
god dammit tabataaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Other than that, I've spend over 3 hours in this demo just playing around with the combat, and it has a lot of hidden shit.
>>332740140
>This looks like Sakurai went off to make a snail's paced DMC5.
>what is kingdom hearts
>>332740184
That's the main thing, really. Even if other characters don't contribute some critical new functionality, it provides variety to the player. I hope there are extensive attack options for each weapon that they just haven't told us about, because otherwise it could get quite repetitive after 50-60 hours.
>>332740006
Hopefully inDragons Dogma 2,anon...
Hopefully...
>>332739465
No.
This is not meant to be a DMC, KH or even Dark Souls for that matter.
This is a command oriented Final Fantasy title first, action game second.
I know it's a difficult concept.
>>332738149
yeah worst shitposters around
the previous gameplay thread were nowhere near this toxic
How different is it to Episode Duscae?
Is it still hold the X button until the bar goes to the bottom? It was the most disconnected and dull combat system I've ever experienced.
>>332740309
>kingdom hearts
>slow
Unless there's some KH3 gameplay I haven't seen yet, you're fulla shit m80. That and KH doesn't try to be DMC unlike whateverthehell this is
>>332740392
Okay, I missed the whole stream and presenation, just saw the demo and the anime episode...BUT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?
What would you guys ratter have.
New Luminous build that rarely sustains 30 FPS with amazing visuals, or old Luminous build with slightly worse visuals and decent FPS that holds 30 majority of the time?
I'm prefer the downdrage considering this tweet. I'd gladly buy this game twice. I'm really enjoying the two demos.
>>332740501
car is one of the things you can fly
I remember a while back Tabata said you'd be able to take over the Empire's ships and fly them to.
Pretty sure that batmobile is a late game car upgrade.
>>332740501
>>332740561
at the end of this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zydNkTjhcc
It was basically the 15th reveal, because people have been pestering them about an airship. Based Team Avalanche.
>>332740501
Possibly an excuse not to give you a personal airship.
why can't I have a cute female party member.
Persona 5 will let me have a cute female party member.
>>332740392
I wonder if the underwater region is still in the game. Would be neat if the car had a submarine mode.
>>332734402
All flash no substance the game.
That is just holding a button and ocasionally clicking another.
>>332740685
you can
they're guest members
>>332740392
>that camera angle
just fuck my ship up
>>332740453
I liked the combat in Duscae, I like it in Platinum Demo even more.
It's basically the same thing, only now you can switch weapons with the D-pad (as opposed to using analogue stick movements), which feels a lot better.
It's still hold O to attack, hold Square to dodge (I think those are different buttons from ED), but I like the combat.
I like that it's timing-based more so than combo-based. It feels unique and there's a certain skillset to be utilized there.
>>332739531
>that fucking feel when you perfectly block with the shield and it stuns the giant
>>332740347
They're planning on a sequel? Damn son. That's baller as hell.
>>332740783
dragoon lady? =0
I wish the controls were more responsive. It feels like they made it intentionally this way to give the enemies a chance to hit you, but that just means that the enemy AI and design is really bad. These are very worrying signs.
I wonder who will buy that pointless, yet sexy AF car.
I have an A4, but I would kill for that car.
Wait, was it for sale or not?
>>332740953
Ha!
What?!
NO!
I can dream ,can't I ?
>>332739531
Wait how do you do all that. How do you throw ninja stars
>>332740980
Luna is the only one confirmed so far.
I'm pretty sure there will be a point in the game where you play as her for a while.
Hopefully a flashback where you play as King Reggie.
>>332741003
It's not for sale at all.
>>332735915
I can't wait for some webms of this type of stuff.
>>332734402
>graphics are meh
Fuckin' really ?
>>332741179
So uh
what the fuck was the point
what a fucking waste of money
they could've had so many more collector's editions
>>332740990
dumb frogposter
>>332741024
Awww.. They're not? Damn, that reminds me, i haven't finished DD. Spoilered the ending. I don't want my Arisen to die damn it.
>>332739318
I did play it, wiseass. Had several runs at the Iron Giant too, trying to convince myself that "I just have to get used to it", but the combat just isn't that good. Have you played it? I struggle to imagine how anyone could think that combat is fun or satisfying.
>>332740990
They're not unresponsive at all, I don't know why people keep saying this. Maybe you haven't played it enough, but I can perfectly time a midair dodge, and that's hard as shit.
>>332734402
I've been legit waiting for Final Fantasy XV for around 9 years. This Platinum Demo was everything I had hoped for and more. I believe that it has the potential to stand on its own due to its intriguing concept. Allowing us to play as young Noctis before the main game has helped us in getting to know him on a more personal level. Thus, a bond has been formed between the player and the protagonist before he even starts to play the final game. When I walked down the steps of the Grand Citadel staircase to fight the Iron Giant it reminded of the first time I glimpsed Final Fantasy XV back in that E3 trailer all those long years ago and consequently my wishes were fulfilled completely. The inclusion of the amusing creature Carbuncle was an added bonus. Obviously this masterpiece is meant for those with the insight to appreciate a true work of art. In terms of story, gameplay, music as well as mesmerizing beauty.
>>332741398
Wow, way to turn to tables. Yes I have. I've learned how to dodge with the sword while doing air combos, and magic cancel. I'm sorry you don't like it, but don't go calling something this fun at barebones level shit.
>>332741258
Kinda if you're comparing with other AAA titles. But I don't mind though. Been so used to a toaster of a pc. But golly, Luminous engine if not choked by hardware limitations is really damn beautiful.
>>332741430
hello xv-kun
>>332734402
It could very well just be because I'm not good at it yet but I found the combat to be at times unresponsive, generally clunky and not very fluid, I don't care for the d pad switching I think it takes away from combat, I think that what was happening in the duscae might be better. I got use to the idea of finishing with heavy weapons but this time instead of chaining how you want with weapons its like "pick one and do what you can". However I will say the magic is awesome, makes you feel badass and it is strong as fuck. My main problem though is I just felt I wasn't in control ever.. It felt like I was always open for attacks, that it was hard to be cool. Wish they included more gameplay but besides that the world is pretty awesome. I was having a lot of fun just running around and enjoying what the demo had to offer, the plot seems like it's going to be grand too which is cool. All in all I'm excited for it but I need to sit down and play the fight some more to really get a grasp on the gameplay. I don't care for it as of now though.
>>332741464
Anyone could find anything fun. Doesn't make it good. I'll keep calling it what it is.
>>332741464
They really should put a tutorial or an instruction in the new demo so new players that didn't play ED would know what to do and all.
>>332741593
You're mean.
>>332741529
Text not big enough.
>>332741626
Yeah, dunno why they didn't.
Guess the main focus of this demo was literally tech. Showing off day/night cycles and weather, some different environments.
We were promised a free demo with the whole crew in Lucis.
>>332741290
They were probably trying to show off for no reason at all. Squeenix loves wasting money on pointless shit.
I thought they were going to announce a worldwide giveaway, but no.
>>332741720
There's more demo? This game is literally Final Fantasy Type - Demo
>>332741792
>they gave it to Greg Miller
>>332741407
Not that guy but I heavily disagree with you.
The timing for the dodges is fine that's not the problem. It's how much of a delay there is between pressing the button and an attack hitting or a jump coming out.
So is this going to be the final demo or what?
>>332741621
How do you get up there? I couldn't figure out how to warp anywhere
>>332741849
That'd be a tragedy.
Not even a fan of the series and most likely won't play XV, but gets the car...
>>332741846
Well they said something about free DLC, so who the fuck knows if they meant for the main game or the demo.
But Tabata said not too long ago that there would be a demo with full combat with all the guys and more magic and shit.
>>332737160
>being a shitter
>>332736992
2fm& coded really.
>>332740808
B-B-BUT IT'S CINEMATIC!!!!
>>332740339
Man, they should fire the game designers and hire people who actually played games.
>>332740392
This is cool but I had the idea of being in a big ass airship and having a base. Fuck were never getting classic ff are we?
>everyone thinking this demo for a game 6 months away will be exactly like the final game
Yep, I'm on /v/.
>>332742109
There are still those huge rowboat airships, and they've said you'd be able to fly enemy airships n shit.
>2016
>flying car
>>332742136
Are you kidding me? There's absolutely zero reason to think this won't be just like the final product. It is the second demo, and 6 months isn't that long. This has been in development for much longer. They wouldn't have given us something they weren't confident about or didn't represent the final game.
>>332742216
>2016
>no flying cars
>>332742249
This is just a tech demo to showcase weather and environments. The combat is just a sneak peak. They've still said there will be a demo with proper combat with the full party on the way.
>hold button to win
>input lag is almost as bad as Heavenly Sword
>people defend this shit and say it is good
It's hilarious how after 10 years, this is what they came up with.
>>332738518
>muh sick aircombos
>giant literally just stands there doing nothing the entire time
sasuga anon truly this is the most amazing combat system ever
>>332741906
Carbuncle gives you the warp ability after a while during the battle. He gives you other shit, too. Not sure if it's time based or Low HP based.
i-t's air b-button
>>332736578
This because if people shitstorm and the game is terrible they can blame it on being a beta then just release the "full" game two weeks later without any backlash
Tfw no more demo discs with your ps1 magazine
So what ability do you think Carbuncle will have in the game? Resurrection like in this (doubt that Phoenix is in here), or his classical one?
>>332742371
Wonderful.
>>332742371
>They've still said there will be a demo with proper combat with the full party on the way.
Source?
I'm very excited about this, but, even if I understand what this demo is, this has dissapointed me a little bit.
>>332739318
I'm just happy Cidney didn't get censored.
>>332742559
One of the ATRs. Tabata and cap-man said there would be a combat closer to the release with full party combat in Lucis.
>>332742587
And they made dragoon's tits bigger since 2011.
>>332738518
>moron gets hit every time
>just button mashes between using his stun lock warp strike
Literally the same as hitting a Target Dummy.
What a shit game
>>332742587
Still laugh at Ignis in this webm.
"I'm gonna go talk to her bros, I'm gonna do it, I'll do it... fuck I can't do it"
>>332736160
I know these consoles are weak but fuck, why they keep downgrading it so much? At this rate soon it will be xcx levels.
Seems like SE is rushing development quite a lot.
Tbh the first demo had way better combat. Putting different weapons to separate parts of a combo was really interesting, the system in the new demo is boring and generic.
>>332742559
Something from an older ATR. They said there would a free demo with the whole party using magic and team abilities, even a bit of the car.
>>332734402
Hav you ever played Folklore?
>>332742483
Reflect?
He might be there for aesthetics. I dunno how they might work him into the battle system unless he's a summon.
>>332742787
Yeah it's shit. It was failure for a reason.
Can we have some real critique that doesn't cry about the "MUH FPS"
>>332742827
It looked interesting though.I have a copy.
>>332742787
No,but a radical dude made a good video about it.
Why do you ask?
>>332739605
It actually is though
>job system
>materia
>paragon
Amazing customizatoin that lets you break the game with some hardcore battles as optional bosses.
Kill the turtles without vanille death cheezing or atempt the trials in ff13. Shit's fucking tough.
>>332734402
there is nothing shit about the combat
There is a reason why you cannopt cancel animations retard
If you weild a small weapon you can dogde and move quicly and if you weild a hammer , well guess what slower response
Fucking retards
>>332742938
XIII has a lot of flaws and the fact that it takes forever to give you access to all of your tools is the biggest of them but I agree with you here. I don't think turtles are tough per se, but you do have to pay attention and maintain buffs, debuffs and stagger.
Endgame XIII is very involving gameplay but it's like 0.1% of the total content where it should be 99.9% of it
>>332742942
because realistic gameplay is the most fun
>>332735716
confirmed that you never played a ff game
You cretin
>tfw can't ride the cidney car
DLC:
Weapons
- Masamune (FFXV) : any ver., any retailers ;
- Blaze Edge (FFXIII) : any ver. sold by 7/11 (PS4/XO package ver. and PS4 DL Card) ;
- Gae Bolg (FFXIV) : any package ver. sold by Ama'.co.jp ;
- Mage Masher (FFIX) : any package ver. sold by Square Enix e-Store.
Outfit
- Royal Raiment Costume : Deluxe & Ultimate Collector's Editions only (from any retailers)
Car skins
- Platinum Leviathan : idem. Royal Raiment ;
- Sydney : any package ver. sold by Géo ;
- Golden Chocobo : any package ver. sold by Tsutaya ;
- Pixel Character : dl version sold on the PS and XB store (the 7/11 PS4 DL card is excluded).
Item
- Cooking Pack : any ver. sold by 7/11 ;
- Travel Pack : any package ver. sold by Ama'.co.jp & Geo ;
- Camera Kit : any package ver. sold by Tsutaya & Square Enix e-Store ;
- Fishing Pack : ant dl version (7/11 PS4 DL card excluded).
If you purchase the Ultimate Collector's Edition on the Square Enix e-Store or at 7/11, you'll get the 4 above mentioned packs.
>>332742942
Hm, not true. Even with a smaller weapon, the input delay is just too long. I'm thinking of certain ways this can contribute to strategic planning, but I just can't see it.
Even Monster Hunter differentiates what can be canceled and what can't be and it becomes natural. Since monsters here attack so fast and frequently, you have to have a combat system that enables you to react quickly. Even Monster Hunter lets you roll out quickly after a slow strike.
>>332743164
>there's going to be a Tifa DLC outfit for Cidney
>it'll cost real money
>>332738112
here is your reply pcuck senpai
>>332741430
this , the demo confirmed to me that this is gona be the best game i have ever played
And its only a minor taste for what is to come
Thank you for making this final fantasy team
>>332743164
Did they finally fix her name to Cidney or is she still Cindy?
>>332741551
its not dark sousl or bloodborne combat ofcourse but still one of the best combat systems on a game
You can teleport and slash and you can summon great beings in combat to destroy the whole place up for fucks sake
>>332743164
all the more reason to just wait for the PC release.
>>332734402
>fluid attack chains between enemies
>clunky and slow manual dodge
Fuck any game that does this shit
>>332742435
>>giant literally just stands there doing nothing the entire time
hello pcuck
>>332739359
In Type-0 you learn skills later that might affect your basic attack if you do directional inputs
In Lightning Returns, timing your actions (i.e. pressing attack exactly when it lands) deals more damage and works like a cancel so you attack slightly faster, I don't remember if the game explained this though, I just noticed there is a blur effect when you time it right and it helps when stunning enemies
>>332743824
Hahahahaha
>>332743164
>- Mage Masher (FFIX) : any package ver. sold by Square Enix e-Store.
This wasn't in UED or Deluxe.
And I really want it though.
>>332743218
hm , lets see
if you press te buttons like you playing a fighter of a devil may cry game and the character does not responce then yes there is ''input delay''
>Broadsword Aircombo
>into Air Shuriken
>into warp to building
>into Greatsword Warp Strike from high up on building
>Greatsword attack- pause- Greatsword attack HOLD (activates Charge Attack)
>Charge up and unlease the damage!
>then cancel that charge attack into tempest (hold stick away from opponent and attack with greatsword while locked on)
>magic aim Fireball(cancels tempest animation)
>fireball Throw
>>332743895
Yeah it's kinda dumb that all DLC isn't in the Ultimate, defeats the purpose.
>>332743862
I have a PS4 though. It's just funny people think these aircombos are awesome when they can only do them on targets that don't fight back.
>>332743110
its not realistic, you can teleport remember?
Its just balacing the weapons
imagine if you could do hammer damage with sword speed
its gonna break the game
>>332743824
and then they make fun of the greatness awaits meme
PC users wait way longer
>>332744000
funny that you think you have a ps4 because you saw the demo on youtube
>>332743767
She isn't Cid though.
>>332735586
>Das y its gud
>>332744151
Funny that FF fanboys get so rustled from any critique their franchise gets they have to convince themselves they never played it.
>>332737145
>weeber
What the fuck is this
Fuck off back to whatever reddit/9fag/facebook shit you came from
I wonder why people bother to create robots in these fictional worlds when some guy with a sword can easily take them out.
>>332742621
>>332742762
Great then! I'll see if I find the specific ATR.
I guess it'd release in September. Hopefully it's a good representation of the game for those who don't know a bit about it, since this demo might have stop some people from being interested if they think the game is like this.
>>332737421
>being this much of a newfag
get lost
>>332744263
yup reddit
I know you didn't play it but fuck it
here is your reply
>>332742797
He's most likely a summon, yeah. I guess they could make Reflect work and you could use it against magic-based enemies, but considering that it's a 3D environment and that this magic work in this particular way... Or maybe it's just inmunity against magic.
>>332736992
Yes. KH2FM, the fan favorite of KH games with widely regarded combat systems was developed by Square Enix Tokyo, then they went on to develop Versus XIII. Ten years later we have this to show for it. They must have seriously fucked some shit up for this to be all they have after a decade.
>>332744371
Noctis isn't just some guy though, and there is still still the general populace which are normal civillains who are controlled by those robots. Also being a fighter with powers is still second rate to an army that uses strategy.
"Classic" FF is dead people, it's time to move on. Either accept those new entries for what they are or do as I did and remove it from your radar completely or you'll be disappointed.
It's like expecting the next Dragon Age to play like a classical cRPG or the next CoD to have health bars and unlimited weapon slots. It won't be the case. That's not what sells anymore, apparently.
Only controlling one character of your party has always been a deal breaker for me, that being said I've been playing dragon dogma lately and I've been enjoying it very much even though it does the same thing. The combat in dragon's dogma looks better than the videos of FFXV I've seen though, but we'll see. After FFXIII I'm really not holding my breath.
>>332744443
Stay mad and deluded kiddo.
Was that whale fountain thing Bismark?
>>332744491
Immunity for a limited time would be cool. Or some random support magic that buffs the party.
We'll see what it does soon enough.
>>332744523
Didn't the people in SE's various teams get shuffled around after XIV went nuclear?
Also Tabata kinda took over and wasn't he the one that was all about the one-button combat? He did the same thing in Type-0
>>332744586
>"Classic" FF is dead people
I want to fight him.
>>332744660
I'm excited as fuck about the summons. I mean, yeah, it's seemingly just an attack (like in most FFs), but man, they look amazing.
I'd love if the incorporated Diablos in any way. And I wonder what summon Lucis has. Considering the spooky skelleton theme, maybe Odin? A reaper?
>>332744757
I wonder how garbage that movie is going to be.
>>332738518
>Fighting a monster that barely moves or attacks
>Still gets hit a dozen times
?!?
>>332738637
>What is FF12
>mash the x button combat
oh
bby
>>332743963
How do you charge the greatsword?
I keep fumbling.
I know that they're pretty generic, but I wish the main characters looked a little bit more like this.
Although having played the Platinum demo, I can say that I'm more pleased that I was before with Noctis.
Also, I hope Luna has this clothes in the game. And I prefer her face here, too, looks much more distinctive.
>>332744718
Fair enough, I should've said that it was dead as main entries of the series on non-handheld consoles.
FF dimensions obviously imitates the "retro" 16bit FF games, I'd be curious to see what a modern take on that would look like on powerful hardware.
>>332744860
You're a little late to shitpost mate.
>>332744825
I could be the biggest turd in the world (which could be, as the director is the AC's one afaik) and I'll still enjoy it because of the visuals and art design. So good.
>>332744935
Reminds me of Before Crisis. Like they're FFXV's version of The Turks.
>>332744782
The word Lucis having to do with light makes me think it would be something holy, but Alexander would be redundant for a kingdom's eidolon after FFIX.
I can't wait to see what summonings make it in and also how those fights will play out in order to gain their power.
>>332744935
Careful anon, wouldn't want to attract the anime weebs who will scream at you for preferring a face that has detail and actually looks human.
>>332744981
Nomura directed AC. Kingsglaive is being directed by Takeshi Nozue.
Doesn't look like Nomura's involved with Kingsglaive at all, actually. Weird, since this was supposed to be his game.
>>332744935
looks like mass effect
>>332734402
I don't really care about this since I knew before hand that it'd be garbage catered to the KH kiddies. What I'm upset about is that to save face and development costs they rebranded a spinoff game as a mainline FF title, stripping the series of a potential REAL mainline game.
I have the same problems with FF11 and 14, though they're ok as games, I do not feel they needed to steal mainline FF numbers. It simply was not necessary. You fags can enjoy your Kingdom fantasy ripoffspinoff, but I seriously dont think it shoulda stole what coulda been another game entirely.
I know it sounds like spilled milk but lets be real here, it didn't need to happen.
>>332745120
>Doesn't look like Nomura's involved with Kingsglaive at all
Thank fuck.
>>332744946
Maybe this.
>>332745165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM
>>332744935
If you take Luna, Regis, Noct and the character below Regis' sword i would believe if people told me it was a new ass creed game.
>>332745258
>unironically posting filth frank
Spotted the normalfag dudebro. You gave enough shit to reply fag licker.
>>332745165
They already said 16 will be turn-based, calm down you turbofaggot.
>>332745351
>They already said 16 will be turn-based
16 may not even exist if 15 doesn't sell 10M copies.
>>332745324
>fag licker
wow are you 12
>>332745450
I don't think you understand how business works. It doesn't mean that if they sell under 10m they're finished. Idiot.
>>332744935
Play the Order:1889
>>332745537
>posts filthy frank
>calls others 12
>>332745450
Oh it will, it's Final Fantasy for fucks sake. They'll milk that franchise till the end of time.
XV being unsuccessful would only mean that XVI might not have as high a budget.
I have a hunch that Squeenix is simply shit at managing projects and FF15 won't really reflect such an absurdly high cost.
>>332745120
He probably designed Nyx and the characters though.
>>332744697
A little bit but honestly I dont believe the original team behind KH2FM is even 5% the same as it was a decade ago, thats why we have this combat system. It isnt terrible, but anyone who has played kh2fm knows that those guys were the absolute Grade A Premium for ARPGs. The minigames and everything incorporated knowing and using every single move in your arsenal to your advantage. I'm going to get back on Puratinum Demo and play around but it doesnt feel like the same people.
>>332745165
Does it even matter? Really? The number is just there, the series has no type of connection between games, except of course the obvious continuation games, if they never used numbers and only sub titles it would not change anything, why does it triggers you that a game has a number on the title?
>>332745165
>This fucking piece of shit casual faggot believes KH combat is easier than FFXIII combat
If you believe that you are wrong. Period. People talk shit about pressing x to win but that will get you fucked in any game after vanilla 2, FFXIII literally had AN AUTO BATTLE. YOU PRESS X TO HAVE THE GAME AUTO PLAY ITSELF. Don't even bother trying to refute or reply to this argument because no words can make a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6X7Kl1md10
>>332745621
Is Nyx the hooded figure in XV?
>>332745165
thats a weird thing to be anal about
they just made versus xv because they needed a reason to back it big financially
>>332745589
>not liking papa franku
best rapper alive kys lmao
>>332746041
No, it's the MC in Kingsglaive, played by Aaron Paul.
>>332745351
Source?
anyone know where i can download kingsglaive trailer in highest quality?
everyone just redirect to shitty youtube
>>332746171
saggygooch in an interview about XV
>>332746097
I know that but who is the hooded man!
>>332746234Stella
>>332735598
Dont you have a problem with sony constantly showcasing unobtainable graphics?
You might not mind, but they keep doing it and people like you keep defending this shit.
>that comfy as fuck chibi segment
>tfw perfect sheild block as grown noctis
>tfw stunning the living fuck out of iron giant with greatsword 4 hrlit combo
>>332735437
Technically only 3 ff have been turn based
>>332745351
If XV success you can say goodbye for turnbase forever.
I feel about this as I'll feel about 7R. I don't care about the combat all that much, I just want to explore. The cities in XV look insanely comfy. The fucking hotels and train stations god damn son.
>>332746535
finally
What weapons you want noctis to have in the final game?
Please let there be a whip.
>>332746661
yeah i know it hurt to see a genre in death bed for so long.
Hope it rest in peace.
>>332745710
>>332746042
He has a point though, "main series" games have a greater exposition and bigger budget than the "side" games. If versus didn't become XV there probably would be an other FFXV in development. It would probably be even shittier though, based on the general direction FF is headed.
>>332746814
Why does it matter though? FFT was a "side" game and it's still considered one of the best FFs, 13 is a "main series" and it's considered shit, side or main, budget or no budger, it doesn't matter, all that's important is the quality of the game. What about the continuations? Is X-2 a main series or a side game?
>>332741024
>>332741351
If you think DD won't get a sequel you're sorely mistaken. DD sold EXTREMELY well. Don't let people fool you. A sequel is literally inevitable.
>>332741621
My sides
>>332734402
is noctis a 5`7 manlet?
>>332734402
How does it compare to Witcher 3's combat?
>>332746474
Exactly. The moment I got the shield the combat went from a 4 to an 8. You can cancel out of your attack animation and block instantly with your shield and stagger the giant. Feels satisfying as fuck
>>332746474
yeah holy fuck the shield and shuriken with fire is fun as fuck to pull off mid-combo
dat shield bash
>>332750718
yes he is 5'7 but it is a good height and not a manlet
This probably sounds autistically greedy right now considering all the info we've just had, but can we expect a regular marketing plan now, no?
And I mean full trailers, press previews and stuff like that, abandoning the ATRs.
You forgot
>What is good:
Florence and the Machine
Any news for the new Dissidia? Will Noctis be in it?
>>332744935
Seriously, I don't even hate the main characters (I've got time to get used to them, I guess), but even if those are generic as fuck (straight out of AC: Rogue or Syndicate), you could have those as main characters, tweaking them maybe a little bit to make them more interesting and voilà.
>>332752227
Yes, the uncovered event marks the start of there marketing push for this game.
>>332752391
They'll probably add him in an update, as the newest Dissidia is, at this moment, an arcade-only game.
I'm expecting that, once the game is out and Dissidia Arcade has a meaningful amount of characters and updates, they'll release it for consoles/PC.
>>332751341
Yeah man I just tried it out. Approach with ranged shuriken, block big ass sword, punish with heavy blade, pretty awesome. I think that FFXV's emphasis is going to be on switching between different weapons often. Also the fist slam is un defendable without the shield, but you can block it with the shield. Pretty neat/10
BEST GOOK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKvnJ7rYRXg&list=LLBli4unDnzYmWVtXC_o-2Bg&index=3
>>332752227
Yes Tabata said after this event they'll be shitting out more trailers. More serious shit, not the happy goofy shit we've seen thus far. He said it's going to get dark.
>>332752539
>Dissida 3 for PS4.5
Was it Sony's master plan all along?
test
>>332736160
The combat here actually looks a lot cleaner without text all over the place and sfx crowding up the screen like paint sprayed all over the fucking place to make sure you KNOW warp strike did 1x damage.
Anyone else experiencing the same issue with the grainy shadows?
>>332735062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8nr5iSbVFk
What is bad isn't the frame rate but the frame time.
BC mostly on the PS4 the frames aren't being delivered at the same pace, it makes the game feel weird and unresponsive.
A lot of multiplat games have this issue on the PS4.
X1 version has the frame rate issue.
>People don't know you can use a spin attack with the great sword using down+attack mid combo
>People don't know you can parry every attack and stagger the giant with the shield by blocking at the right time
>People don't know you don't have to aim magic yourself if you lock onto an enemy and just press the button instead of holding it
>People don't know you can stay in the air forever by using the airsword or shurikens after your 3 hit combo by pressing a direction to airdash
>People don't know you can use different moves if you wait a second if your weapon disappears after an attack and attack right after like the charging great sword attack that even absorbs a hit from the giant
>People don't know shit
>>332753905
Would be good if it told people, but I guess they're leaving that for the gameplay heavy demo. This was just a visual tech demo.
who /buyingitasecondtime/ here
Is the Stand By Me song on Youtube?
I love how it has the prelude playing in the background.
>>332746474
That & the ost was comfy as fuck but holy shit did they really downgrade the textures? And that aliasing.
Really hope the final game won't be like that.
>>332745450
>Significantly downgraded texture and model detail for a marginal lighting improvement
I always thought this was because of multiplat or some horrible exec decision but now I realize it was because of POWER OF THE PS3
>>332754452
I will for sure, done that for Witcher 3 on ps4 & bought it again on pc for the visuals, looks so fucking good on a tv compared to my dell monitor.
>>332755253
Either it's good graphics/shit FPS or shit graphics/good FPS.
Luminous is heavy duty.
What faggotry is this
>>332755662
Final Fantasy.
>>332735915
"Golem"
Dude you fucking got me, stopped reading there. 10/10 b8 m8
>>332755831
I mean what's with the names.
>>332734402
Wasn't a fan of the new controls and dodging felt unresponsive
Someone posted a bunch of videos of them doing cool shit so I'm going to replay it today and try to git gud
This game is literally "I can make it fun!" tier.
>>332755950
Check the date.
>>332755974
It takes a while. Gotta watch the white particles around the weapons just before they vanish to pull off proper unique combos.
With the greatsword after that white light and weapon starting to vanish, hold it for a charged attack, and let go as soon as the particles disappear. If you leave it too long your attack will be weak. There's a sweet spot to do maximum damage.
I'm still fiddling with the combat system, I've learnt pretty much whats been said on my own but it did take me till like the third time fighting the giant to figure out why I would sometimes spin my greatsword and sometimes not, also didn't see the shurikan/shield till my 4th time fighting him.
I REALLY like the Shield and the Shurikan, I'm really interested to see how many the final game has as the great sword and the warp sword or whatever its called don't do much for me.
Does the shurikan have any tap then charge moves like the others?
>>332756194
Also the shield is useless as fuck. It's hidden so find it.
>>332756468
>useless as fuck
lmao I meant to say USEFUL AS FUCK
I'm gonna cry when Prompto dies.
>>332757075
Its gonna be violent too, like he is gonna push you out of the way of an attack and get impaled on a giant sword or something.
>>332753905
Don't forget about the plunging attacks when you're hanging and Iron Giant is under you.
>>332746027
It was most certainly harder than choosing menus you fucking psychopath. Try doing KH2FM on level 1 critical.
Didn't they say something about the game completely changing halfway through? What did they mean by this?
>>332757861
>goes from brotrip to girls night out 2016
>Use the shurikens to get high up
>Switch to broadsword and plunge down
>Warpstrike then go Shield
>Warpstrike chaining by warping to a point, strike then go to another point and repeat
>Sword combo, shuriken upwards, back dash, then go in on sword
Can't pull off charges but it's fun.
Wish we used L2/R2 as magic usage. Feels annoying I can't go weapon for all four slots.
>>332757989
yeah it's weird as fuck that magic is in weapon slots
that's pretty dumb
>>332757861
maybe it goes from light hearted to dark as fuck in tone
>>332757924
I wouldn't mind this, but not for too long. Also getting to play flashbacks as Regis, Cid, Gladio's Dead, and Cor would be fucking sweet.
the music game is so fucking on point holy fuck
that music during the environment trailer jesus christ it gave me goosebumps
>>332736992
KH2 has probably one of the most viscerally engaging combat experiences ever made. It doesn't matter that combos were based more on your ability deck and timing than combos, because the real depth was found in positioning/dodging. People who think it's simple think Melee is simple, and then of course they get their asses handed to them during the data fights.
The only series with better feeling combat is Capcom's DMC/Bayonetta.
>>332756056
Like, Kingdom Hearts, and that's awesome.
>>332758315
Yoko is a worthy successor to Nobuo. Hamautsu's XIII OST was brilliant but maybe it just doesn't fit FF.
>>332758578
What the fuck is this name shit?
>>332758645
I loved FFXIII's ost.
Dat music when you fight Barthandelus. MY FUCKING DICK.
Just done playing the demo. Got the shield and shuriken. The combat is pretty simplistic. In my opinion, did feel like a FF game if you actually tap the button one by one. Was surprised that parry only available after you get the shield. Framerate is not that bad i.m.o. probably because my pal (yes, I borrowed the PS4) is not really a hardcore gamer. Jaggies are visible though. And I just love how nighttime looks in the game.
>>332756468
The shield unlocks parry.
>>332759019
see
>>332756562
I fucked up hard.
>>332758656
Check your calendar you spastic
can you even die on this game? everytime i look someone playing they just smash buttons and enemies just stand doing nothing whole game.
>>332759202
I don't know about this demo, but you can die and game over in ED.
I think Carbuncle just keeps healing you in this one.
>>332759202
I can't get over how shit that design is. The fuck Capcom.
Wait, when that fat asian dude said "you get free DLC" was he talking about the demo, or the main game?
I'm a little confused.
I like the combat but i do miss the turn-based combat.
>>332758094
Is that not how VII worked?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK3uIPbwdik
>omg it's cor he's so fuckin hot
god damn I love this faggot
>>332736160
Why do people say this like they are just bullying people and downgrading on purpose? Blame console limitations that cause awkward crashes and stutters that force them to go back and rework everything.
Is youtube lagging hard for anyone else?
>>332759415
A free Carbuncle summon perhaps.
>>332760018
I mean Tabata already said whatever DLC this game has, cosmetic, late additions, whatever is free, but was this guy talking about the demo?
Maybe I'm retarded.
>>332734402
>Game is developed on PC
>Runs like utter shit on PS4 with framedrops in single digits
>"There won't be a PC port because it would be very hard to optimize"
They sure as hell dropped the ball there.
>>332760096
For playing the demo you get carbuncle in the main game
Some anons said you could hold down and attack with Greatsword to pull off some cool ability. When I lock on to the giant and do that though, Noct just runs away from the giant.
>>332760401
they already hinted a pc port you stupid faggot
see
>>332754452
>>332761126
improve your timing
You can go fucking cuhrazy in this demo alone the whole game is gonna be off the hook.
I like that I can hold buttons when I'm feeling sluggish.
Fuck the haters, this and DaS3 will be GOTY 2016.
>Carbuncle's chocobo emotes look like Big Bird
The demo was just an April Fools prank, right?
>>332761940
maybe
they said there would be a full combat demo of the whole crew in Lucis
pretty sure this was too pull in KH fans
it's amazing how deep the combat can get though
>>332758578
>I enjoy making things fun for myself, not challenging myself with difficulty and thought provoking intensity
So, Minecraft? If you want to play a game that you have to "make" fun I'm out, other ff games aren't this easy, and don't come out with shill demos and branding in game.
What the fuck you can't resume game on the PD? Fuck this shit I just wanna fight the golem again
Carbuncle is an old evil spirit. Lovecraftian shit. and will be the final (hidden) boss.
>>332762089
>thought provoking intensity
>>332737018
they instead flat out said the demo was focusing on the combat system.
>>332761770
Give me some tips on gameplay senpai
>>332762353
le git gud :^) desu
>>332762353
timing is very important
especially dodges midair that shit is strict as fuck
this game can either be easy as fuck or challenging - this organic difficulty reminds me of Souls games
>Audi
Square has great taste.
I fucking love my A4. Audis look great.
>>332762318
>shitposting via quote.
If my last post wasn't entirely Fedora I'd forgive you, but *unsheathes dick* not today
>>332737652
You gain arbitrary levels occasionally and you get to choose which party member you take on a totally not gay date in one scene of the game.
>>332762503
This post literally gave me cancer.
Kys senpai
>>332762604
I can tell, second time I've seen you post about it.
>>332762738
Oh go fuck yourself.
You can play it easy by holding O to win or experiment and go crazy. They chose this instead of putting a difficulty selector.
This is a great addition. Kill yourself with aids ridden cancer.
>>332762881
Final fantasy never has difficulty levels, you can expect the game to ramp up easily though.
>>332762664
Well, I'm glad that we can both be self-aware.
>>332762738
Fuck off Woodrow.
>>332738028
I think it's partially the recording, same reason I think is why the game looks better in action than it does in the user screenshots
>>332734402
The aerial combat, magic and weapon switching are good, but for some reason in Plat demo they made it so it auto locks on based on whatever enemy is closest to you
They should just allow for turning off holding, this will give full control over attacks and dodge
I remember they mentioned there was two battle modes in FFXV, my guess is that the Plat demo is that easier mode while we haven't seen the technical mode yet.
>>332763303
>it auto locks on based on whatever enemy is closest to you
it's for auto multidirectional attacks
i worked with it and got in control of it
it works works well actually for me anyway
>>332735598
>but the response was good then I would have no problems with it.
But this is a staple of consoles. To push the graphics until the console cant handle it anymore.
If you were a pc mustard you would have both graphics and good responsive gameplay.
So factually most your issues arise from the fact that its a console game like the other guy said.
>>332735915
>golem
>>332763589
dark souls joke m8
>>332761126
Spin attack only works mid combo which is down+ attack.
Charge attack works when you attack once, wait a sec until Noctis makes the weapon disappear with particles and than hold the attack button
>>332734402
at first I was unimpressed then someone posted cuhrazeee shit videos and I tried it and holy shit
>>332735915
This
This game was meant to go against the FF norm, because Nomura was unimpressed by XIII.
I think it's excellent.
Did FFXV kun kill himself? Haven't seen him lately
>>332736160
No they don't
>>332764042
he has a pasta praising this >>332741430
this is him I've seen this before
>>332736296
You just sound like you are fucking shit
Is driver-kun kill?
He was cute.
>you can parry Iron Giant's attack with a well times SHIELD BASH
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>332752701
Hello AttackMyAss
>>332762604
Audis look good but every Audi driver I met was a piece of shit
>>332765147
hai
this gook is the bomb though
Ok, so I decided to come back to FFXIV. I took a brief hiatus shortly after 3.1 release, what am I in for?
>>332734402
It did away with any notions I had of them fixing the game playing itself. It plays itself even better now.
>>332765573
Disregard this, wrong game
>>332740505
I'd prefer DX12 Luminous FFXV on PC with 60FPS and 4K, which is all but confirmed thanks to their Agni showcase last year which had them showing Luminous on DX12 at 4k
>>332759202
In the game you essentially have 2 HP bars, one is your main HP while the other is sort of like a stagger bar. If your HP hits 0 you'll enter a crippled state where you can't fight until you either stay alive long enough or a buddy brings you back, in this state you can take damage to your main HP and if THAT hits zero then it's game over.
You can't die in Platinum Demo though because Carbuncle will just revive you if you do.
>>332746531
Turn-based is simply 2 actions cannot occur at the same time.
ATB and non-rigid turn orders don't nullify that.
>>332742424
No it isn't
No it doesn't
You didn't even touch it let alone do aerial combat, shurikens, shields, etc
>>332766193
>they made Ramuh take ages to summon in the ED update
>die AND GAME OVER SCREEN while trying to summon him
FUUUUCK
God damn I just downloaded the demo and this game is obscenely pretty even with the muddy resolution, jaggies, and garbage framerate.
tfw we'll have to wait half a decade for a PC port
>>332743767
That car says Cidney in english letters on it.
>>332765447
Cute dog, whats his name?
>>332744825
>>332744981
The movie is the opening of the game just told from Regis's perspective, it's 100% canon.
>>332766490
strangely enough those things will rip you apart if triggered
>>332744935
I wonder if they will give Kingsglaive alt outfits for the main party
We are already getting Regis's suit as an alt for Noctis, and Noctis also already has his other suit too
Maybe they might even put in the original Versus 2008 costumes
>>332744981
>as the director is the AC's one afaik)
Takeshi Nozue directed the CGI of Advent Children, he's a CGI department guy, not a story guy.
Nomura directed the story and the movie, Nozue was only in charge of the CG
For FFXV Nozue has been in charge of the CG since 2006 first CG trailer, all the trailers with CG in them before were Nozue CG
>>332734402
I didn't like type 0 so I definitely do not like the combat in XV. Would rather have tactics, atb, turn based, or action turn based like paper Mario or stick of truth
>>332745120
>>332745621
Aaron Paul said that Kingsglaive started 3 years ago, meaning it started in 2013 when Nomura was still main director. Of course Nomura was involved, since he is main character designer and we do see characters like Iedolas, Regis and Luna who were designed by Nomura in the movie.
And Nyx looks like a more realistic version of Gladio, same hairstyle even, considering they mentioned Gladio was military maybe that is a military haircut in Lucis.
I hope the underwater map and combat is still in.
Bet the car also has a submarine upgrade.
>>332745165
FF9 was originally a spinoff called FF Gaiden, then became FF9 later
FF10 was originally a new IP called Seventeen, then became FF10 later
FF12 was originally going to be an Ivalice MMO after the success of FF11, before becoming FF12
Versus was part of the FNC being made as it's own interpretation of what the 13th mainline FF could have been, hence Versus XIII, they rebranded it to FFXV because of it's mainline FF scale and scope and to distance itself from FF13 name as it had nothing to do with FF13 but the name was confusing everyone.
>>332767209
>And Nyx looks like a more realistic version of Gladio
Has to be related family-wise. Pretty sure Gladio's family were a line of bodyguards for the king(s).
>>332766672
Fuck that
Evil lil honky ass rat
>>332753905
What do you expect from plebs who just try mashing a single button without trying to play the game
>>332758315
Yeah it sounded like that might be Shimomura's arrangement of Prelude even
Personally I am loving the action oriented real time battle system. Warping around is especially awesome and totally bad-ass. One little hiccup for me is that I've grown used to using the circle for evasion and square for attacking. Due to Witcher 3 and Bloodborne. Do you guys think that there would be an option to re-map buttons in the final version?
>>332767974
>prelude can be heard in STAND BY ME
>>332736281
>there's a button to defend and another to attack
>there should be two buttons to defend and attack
>>332767428
I don't there ever was an underwater area (unless you have a quote or something).
All that I know is that, in a CG scene they showed a shitton of years ago, there was a highway that was totally destroyed and made it impossible for the car to get there, but that's it.
>>332744825
Since Lena is voicing her in the movie but not in the game that confirms that Luna will have a british accent in the English dub, doens't it?
We heard Regis speak English in the reclaim your throne trailer and that was game Regis, and he did sound similar to Sean
Also in the demo Regis says something like "Daemon", is that a character or a monster?
>Who else here went back to replay the demo after watching the first episode of Brotherhood?
>Who else here observed the combat's potential to be surprisingly similar to what has been shown in it?
>Who else here understands that the final complete version's fighting shall be nearly identical to the series?
>Perhaps even surpassing it...
Thank You Based Square Enix
There was a scene in the trailer with Ardyn with the group, which is odd considering Ardyn is the now leader of Niflheim and is just casually with them. He says something about taking them somewhere, I think he takes them to Niflheim.
>>332767851
Yeah. Instead of just holding down the button or mashing it like KH, i find it better to tap it according to the animation. So far, haven't got the “input delay” complaints I read from /v/.
>>332768940
This kind of character is always voiced by the same actor and has similar trait (Reno, Axel, now this one...), so yeah, I think he'll be a not so bad enemy and will be playing both sides in a way.
>>332743767
I heard from XV-kun that they've decided to change it to Cidney. But you'll never know since they have to record ALL of voices for the dialogues again if they did that.
>>332769289
I don't know but the car here >>332743164 says "Cidney" in English and that's official.
Literally perfect
>>332739231
Does anyone know what the question mark switch at tthe left or right side of where the iron giant spawns?
For some reason its the onlly switch that i couldnt unlock is it a secret?
>>332770223
Isn't it MP restore and Magic restore?
>>332770223
refills your fire spells
magic is refilled next to the weather switch
>>332770538
They're called elemental restores. Different from MP because magic = items.
>>332770223
You need over 300 crystals for it.
Unlocks Fire refills.
So is the parry just a completely random QTE now?
>>332770223
It's just MP and Fire spell restore. Have you found the shield and shurikens yet? You'll only unlock it after you've beaten the iron giant the first time. After beaten the iron giant (first) head to the furthest circle platform to unlock the second fight. During the second fight,head toward the tall building, warp to the centre, and second highest point, and fall down unto a platform. There you'll find two more circle things that have the shield and shuriken
>>332770789
I found out that if u shield bash iron giant's attack right you can counter
>>332770789
Find the shield, and only then you can perform manual parry.
>>332753905
ALSO:
If you use the air shuriken warp strike while the iron ginat is doing that gravity pull move that sucks you in it will stun him.
Wait till he activates the move and it starts to pull you in then use air shuryiken warp strike and he almost always gets stunned
>>332770947
Where is the shield?
>>332758315
Soundtrack has a similar vibe to XII, just a notch close to KH's I thought.
The English VA 's really good, period. Seeing how good young Noct & Regis's VA are, hopefully others are good as well. Worried it'd turn out like XIII.
Someone post some cuhrayzee webms of the combat
>>332771097
>The English VA 's really good, period. Seeing how good young Noct & Regis
Are we playing the same fucking game nigga?
>>332771092
Read this
>>332770832
But I'll summarize
Fight the I.G once
activate the 2nd I.G fight
Warp to tall building (the central warp point)
Go to second or the highest spot
Drop down
Make sure to land on a platform/balcony
Looked pretty
I'll buy it
Heavensward has the better combat system tho
>>332770832
yeah i found those on my first demo play through
>>332771186
What didn't you like about them? They sounded natural to me.
Although I cringed a little when I heard Noct's group talking in the trailer, the part when they're at the cafe playing that arcade minigame.
>>332744840
FFXII has no explorable world map, the airship is a menu, and it uses ATB so technically its turn based.
>>332771712
>FFXII has no explorable world map
Why does it need one, when it has a gigantic regular map you can explore?
Of all the things you can criticize XII for, it shouldn't really be exploration.
>>332771615
>FF XIV
>Better combat system
>WoW Hotbars and circle dodging being better than this
>>332772158
No u
hamburger fantasy XV
>>332738028
DESU I haven't noticed any serious frame rate problems either and I got my ps4 back in August. The only real issue I had is the controls could be more responsive as some people have said. Other than that PD ran extremely well. Even during the boss fight when I was warping all over the place it didn't lag much if at all.
>>332738028
>>332772514
Mine (well, my brother's) is a year and a half old and although there aren't any big drops beyond some particular moments, there is a constant stuttering problem.
Visually the game looks alright, some things are great (the lighting, the superb animations...), but some others... I mean, Altissia isn't looking too hot, and neither is Insomnia. Hopefully they can polish things up.
>>332738750
you're the one who doesn't belong, you fucking anime loving mongoloid
this is /v/
this board is for discussing VIDEOGAMES ONLY
Ok I didn't know about the shield and shuriken going to go try it now
>>332773609
I'm still not sold on the combat, but they reeeeally improved it for me. Alternating the shuriken and the sword mid-air feels extremely satisfying, as well as parrying with the shield (great design, also that sword).
