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What went wrong?
>>332729201
Nothing, they fixed most of the issues, it's a solid game.
>>332729201
Solid and fun game. Bad netcode
Unfortunately a bad start and its association with Ubisoft. Shame that this isn't amazingly popular cause this is such a great game.
>>332729201
It's sustaining itself pretty well considering it's a $60 multiplayer only game and it's getting frequent patches and content.
Like it's not going the way of Titanfall or Evolve anytime soon.
Nothing
Post favorite operators.
>>332730038
Rook
Blitz for attack
>>332730038
Either one.
>be bad at the game
>just pick Rook all the time to give team armor so I can be even marginally useful
Best shooter in a very long time. Play almost every day.
>place cluster charge on wall
>get 3 kills including the hostage
blyat
>>332730357
>not roaming with rook
>not getting easy headshots with god tier mp5 with an acog
>>332730038
Doc + Rook MP5 wombo combo.
>>332729201
Networking. I stopped playing this game because the networking didn't work.
>>332730538
game is hard. also my favorite attacker is Twitch
Apart from network issues that occur sometimes, nothing. Literally the best MP shooter in years.
>>332730038
Attack:
Fuse for the funballs and AK-12
Buck for his GOAT semi-auto
I usually end up being the Thermite cuck though
Defense:
Tachanka but depends on the spawn.
>>332730038
>Trashkan
they took a really really great mulitplayer mode, buried it under wannabe-f2p nonsense, sold it at full retail anyway, and then completely fucked up the launch
i can't remember the last time i was this addicted to a mulitplayer game, but ubisoft really hasn't done it any favors
>>332730781
Barrier for entry is a bit high imo, shoulda sold at like 40 dollars or something
>>332729201
You're one of the devs, aren't you?
>>332730038
I really like thatcher for offense and rook for defense.
network issues and teamkillers
>>332730038
Attack: Fuse, his LMG is too good
Defend: Frost or Pulse, their shotguns are fuckmachines and beartraps are OP as fuck
The lighting is pretty fucking trash.
Gunplay is casual. Strafing perfect accuracy all day.
DBNO animation immunity is STILL a thing.
Sounds are great. Destruction is great.
Nothing, It's actually one of the very few good games Ubisoft has made.
>>332730038
the only correct answer
>>332729201
Best game Ubishit has ever released to be quite honest, Senpai.
>>332729201
Ubisoft
I don't know how I feel about the whole ACOG meta, I think too many guns have it available desu.
It's a shame every other sight but the holo sights are awful.
>>332730229
Mah nigga
>>332729240
>>332729296
>>332729370
You can even get it for $30 now easy, couldn't have gone better waiting a few months
>>332729201
Rampant hacking and still shitty netcode for one
Not to mention it got fucking dropped like a bag of rocks post release
Its worth it for like, $20. But considering how little content this game has for a RS game its pretty shameful.
>>332729201
The Division exist and soon Wildlands
Some people have literally useless abilities (IQ, Kapkan, etc) and the only reason to even pick them is because their gun is OP
its still a fun game though.
>>332731719
>three successful but dead games in a row
How does Ubisoft do it
They truly are the kings of shallow shit stupid people buy
>>332731691
As much fun as I am having, it doesn't really feel like a true rainbow six game.
It feels like a 5v5 version of payday with 4 maps.
>>332731820
Just like the Division
They just slap titles on whatever new game they made and hope to cash in on fans of the series. Fucking Ubisoft have no shame.
>>332731691
>playing on PC
you realize the esports scene for this game played for MONEY is played with an actual controller, right?
>>332731013
Team killers are shit but mainly on casual. Try team up with people and play ranked. >>332731094
>>332731895
No one gives a flying shit about an esport scene for a dead game
>>332731895
>caring about esports
End yourself
People like it on consoles because otherwise the game is too fucking easy
>>332729201
It's not a Rainbow Six game.
>>332732039
Which on was?
>>332732039
This man gets it. Tom Clancy is rolling in his grave at this """"tactical"""" game Ubisoft stamped his name on.
>>332729201
Uplay.
I got it for free and was actually pretty interested.
Sold the key the moment I saw Uplay was involved.
>>332731820
>>332732039
t. I loved the Vegas series and wanted Patriots
![R6-operators-list-sledge_229923[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZjooXv7.png "R6-operators-list-sledge 229923[1]")
>>332730038
>>332732039
This
Its a CSGO clone with a gimmick
>>332732162
I really wish there was some actual map planning like in the previous versions.
>>332729201
Just finished playing with my roomates familia, was a great time, they still need to clean up the netcode but overall an actually fun shooter
>>332732162
no he's actually quite content that his estate is getting a shit ton of money and that people are remembering his name through this, the division, and ghost recon next year
>>332732162
>rolling in his grave meme
The original Rainbow Six game got ported and watered down on consoles like the N64, Lockdown was released, and the Vegas series was created. Yet Clancy never complained about it.
>>332730038
Pulse by far
>Go above or below a common entry point to the objective
>C4 or shoot them through the floor
I'm surprised he's not more popular, I think every other defender is fucking useless in comparison. I get so many totally bullshit kills with him. Literal wallhacks.
>>332732521
>>332731094
In an effort to make the gunplay casual they actually made it far less casual. On PC at least. Whoever gets the first headshot wins, and since there's no weapon sway or anything, you need to have godlike aim.
>>332732521
>>332732727
Is this for real. That encounter would be over in two seconds on PC.
>>332730038
>REAL BIG FUCKIN HOLE COMIN UP
>>332732862
Even less. He would be dead as soon as the other guy saw his foot coming through the window.
>>332731785
At least Siege isn't shallow
>>332732960
Yeah he had the camping advantage as well as a close quarter weapon. That Castle(?) should have had no problems at all dealing with him.
>>332730038
Shield recruit
>>332733027
Hahhaahha, good one anon, good one.
>>332732876
>The most valuable attacker
>Gun that rips defenders apart
>Frag grenades
I love playing this guy. I may not play him the most aggressively but taking out roamers who don't expect me watching the behind is so fucking satisfying.
Recoil needs to be increased by 100% at least
Acog needs higher zoom, making it far less practical for both long and CQC
1 shot head shots have to go, helmets should not count as the head
That would actually make the fights fun, rather than what they are now which is literally just wait for a sound, then strafe + prefire for headshots. Even games like CSGO have longer lasting fire fights.
>>332732521
As if aghd kids have the attention span for a pc.
Consoles is where you find all genetic trash.
Spotet the subhuman.
Take some pills.
>>332733094
It's not. Bunch of different ways to attack every objective combined with different operator team compositions means no two games are ever the same. You'll never hear some ruski pidarasi shout at you to rush B for the millionth time to have the same shootout for the millionth time.
>>332733262
>1 shot head shots have to go, helmets should not count as the head
Why?
>coop is entirely dead
Jesus, you have an easier time finding a match for Vegas 2 today than you do for Siege.
>>332732543
He got paid and had to stfu.
Now he is dead.
He had a complain list and wantet to take legal action agains ubijews.
They killed him.
>>332733262
Honestly some inaccuracy when you ads and move would help a lot
>>332733420
>It's not. Bunch of different ways to attack every objective combined with different operator team compositions means no two games are ever the same
Oh man, you're a funny guy. I love these bait posts.
>>332730038
Termite or Margaret if attacking
Crook or Cute if defending
>>332730038
Tachanka and Kapkan are worst except for fun shotgun.
Everyone know Fuze is best in all situation with 100 ways to solve any situation.
>>332733425
Let me rephrase, hitting someone in the face should kill them, but not the helmet/the shitty hitbox they use that also includes space around the head.
it is WAY to easy to spray and pray and do well
>>332729201
Netcode is shit.
Pre-firing and fast strafing back and forth make you an invulnerable god
>>332733425
Becouse you got a balistic helmet on you fuck up.
Not that airshit ypu use.
Opertor gear for operating operational.
Face shoot kill ok.
Hit helmet depending on range caliber and round. No kill.
>>332733582
A billion times this
The number of times iv shot someone, seen blood, only to have the replay show he took no damage is unending.
>>332733582
Oh ya that reminds me, the fucking sniper SMGs.. even with the patch you can outsnipe fuckin Glaz while strafe shooting.
>>332733542
>he gives the operators punny goofy nicknames
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
>>332733574
IRL you need to be a really lucky men to live after bullet from AR hitting your helmet. Even if it's was some TIG as well.
>>332733809
This isnt about life its about making the game enjoyable, current gunplay is utter shit.
>>332733754
the killcam currently shows his status from a second or two before he killed you and that's why it looks like they have full health, it's on the known issues thing on the forum.
>>332733852
In almost every shooter hit in head = dead. So how it's suppose to work?
>>332733582
Pretty much this, just player Jager and Ash every round and you'll always top-frag.
>>332733858
Regardless of the replay iv shot people in the face only to die while they dont, the games netcode is still fucked.
1shot headshots are good because they make you feel very vulnerable at all times, it really makes you think about how to approach enemies
>>332733962
You make it have better hitboxes, this is basic shit anon. Even Arma does a better job at it.
>>332734060
Not when the hitbox for it is fucking massive and the guns have no recoil
There is no skill to Siege gunplay, 90% of kills are blind luck strafe firing.
>>332730038
Who /smart/ here?
>>332734280
>lose fitting jeans
>>332734078
I don't compare about bad hitboxes in Siege, they awful. But hit in helmet doesn't count as hit in head - it's some bullshit.
>>332732521
>>332734280
Not ubisoft.
No women paded and or operates in a german spec op unit.
Not in gsg9 not in sek ksk and so on.
>60 dollars for a mp shooter
>Ubisoft
That was enough to fuck it up.
>>332734380
Its one and the same issue idiot
>>332730279
yep this. they are both great, it just depends on map and game mode to choose which one you need more
>>332734250
You're looking at it from the wrong angle. There are plenty of tactical shooters with one hit kills, Siege just has them headshot only. Tactics and positioning are far more important because you can be one shotted at any time.
>>332734585
Im looking at what makes a good and enjoyable video game, the current headshots in Siege are ruining its gunplay.
>>332732727
Who needs cutscenes when you can get a cinematic movie fight by playing on consoles.
>>332734585
>Tactics and positioning are far more important because you can be one shotted at any time.
Utter horseshit
The one shot headshots diminish tactical play, they dont increase it
>>332734636
And that's objective is it?
>>332732862
>>332732960
>>332733048
you idiots, anyone can play this on pc or console. these guys are just retarded and have horrible aim.
dont ttell me pc has better players because i play plenty of pc fps's and when playing games that haven't been out for years you find plenty of shit players. sure the skill gap looks big if you compare this to your average good csgo player but compare it to someone who plays a new fps as a console gamer i usually carry my team.
Should I pick this up for PC or PS4 and why?
>>332734280
not you, IQ is objectively one of the worse attackers. the only good thing about her is she is fast and has one of the very best guns in the game but if you're gonna play IQ it must be because ASH is already taken
>>332734731
It is entirely objective.
>>332734691
The fact you can die in one hit means you need to be much more careful. You need to have a guy covering every door. Getting flanked is the worst thing that can happen because all it takes is one guy with good aim and everyone's dead.
I don't think you've played this game at a high level with a full team.
>>332734849
I got it on PC but I bet PS4 would be way more chill since you dont have as many people who are capable of insta killing you from across the map with accurate mouse aim. Wish I had a PS4 but am too niggardly. + no hacks and hackusations ever other map.
>>332734849
PC for better players. PS4 for less hacking.
>>332734770
>dont ttell me pc has better players
PC has better players. Period.
>>332729201
w*men in otherwise semi-realistic game
>>332734982
Thanks for posting an image that is irrelevant to Siege because of its fast paced CSGO style combat. You proved my point perfectly.
>>332734280
>everyone is fitted in proper attire
>IQ is in jeans and a jacket that's zipped down to show her tits
Why haven't SJWs and Goobergate fought over this game? Is it too gamey?
>>332734982
>The fact you can die in one hit means you need to be much more careful
Complete opposite. Go play Squad and tell me Siege requires teamwork. Having fast movement and 1shot headshots does nothing but make the entire game a CoD fest.
>>332735075
Yeah, you haven't played this game at a high level with a full team.
>>332735003
with what evidence you tard? for every kid you see get killed you see another player kill them.
you wanna know the average K/D or W/L for all players on console and pc? 1.00
and as i said i played on pc and console enough to realise no matter where i am there is always scrubs so i have to always carry my team to a win.
>>332730038
Twitch & Frost
I swear I like her for the traps
>>332735150
Great Ad hominem, thanks for proving my point even more by not being able to have a counter point.
>>332735170
>no matter where i am there is always scrubs so i have to always carry my team to a win.
baby dick detected
>>332729201
Every time I see gameplay from this the awful netcode is very appearant. There is nothing I hate more than synch issues etc. Have they fixed this? If they have I'll consider getting it.
>>332735170
>with what evidence you tard?
Its harder to play on PC because its easier to aim, meaning higher reaction times and faster responces.
Consoles are slower and easier, and therefore have worse players
>>332735238
They made it better, but it is not near to fix and there is no word on them actually fixing it.
>>332735369
Too bad. I loved Path of Exile but it also had bad netcode and constant synch issues so I stopped playing and never touched it again.
I just cant fucking stand synch issues. Its the absolute worst. Literally worse than Hitlerlosing WWII
>>332735309
you can turn up the sensitivity for consoles if thats your issue. yet still you have no evidence to support your big claims. even good players can still play console.
also saying consoles are slower therefor people have a handicap doesn't apply if everyone has this handicap.
i dont know how to explain this to you because your hate has turned into delusion and your base point of reality is skewed
>>332735520
>you can turn up the sensitivity for consoles if thats your issue
Nothing to do with sensitivity, mouse is better than controllers for aiming, meaning its faster, which means the player have to be better.
Stop taking it personally, you're just not as good as PC players.
>>332735139
I've played the shit out of both and they both require teamwork. But Squad is a realistic tactical shooter while Siege is an arcade tactical shooter. Of course there's a bigger reliance on personal skill in Siege because of the arcade mechanics and it being only 5v5. I don't know what point you're trying to make.
>>332735201
You still haven't denied it. I'm just saying you can't criticize the game with these stupid arguments without playing a team of premade plats vs premade plats. It's like playing CSGO for 10 hours and saying it's shit because of the spray patterns. You just look like an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
>>332735139
That's the exact opposite. Getting rid of 1 hit kill headshots would make it a CoD fest because that means more players would engage in more risky plays and disregarding their own life.
>>332735589
>Of course there's a bigger reliance on personal skill in Siege
Less skill, Siege takes far more. Get your facts straight.
>>332732727
Playing on both PC and on Xbox engagements result in a kill/injure very quickly on either system
>>332735589
CSGO is shit because of spray patterns.
If I wanted to play a memory game I'd play Super Mario Bros. 3 and get the cards to spawn using exploits I memorized to trick the code into spawning them.
>>332735589
>You still haven't denied it.
I did, and proved you wrong, then you relied on a 'NO U FAGGIT' argument as if its proved something other than you're own frustration at being proven wrong.
no more replies for you
>>332735571
>your hate has turned into delusion and your base point of reality is skewed
reread, try to understand, if you cant repeat the first step
>>332735721
But you love Dark Souls right?
>>332735589
>I'm just saying you can't criticize the game with these stupid arguments without playing a team of premade plats vs premade plats
Not him but top 1% means literally nothing. You dont play it and nor does 99% of the player base.
End yourself shitposter. That faggot is more right than you are.
>>332734913
>picking a Jew over a Deustch master race
>ever
Can't wait for you to get gassed by smoke
>>332735139
>Squad
It's funny Im at 57 hours into Squad and I almost always do better if I dont join a squad, spawn on the FOB, and do my own thing. I swear 90% of the time squad leaders are total twats who go do the wrong thing and teammates running around you shooting guns gives you away and makes you an easy target.
But ya know, different shit for different people works. Its also funny cause I asked about this on /v/, if it was possible to solo in squad at all yet still help the team, and i was met with a fury like no other. NO YOU FAGGOT YOU HAVE TO JOIN A SQUAD!!! REEEEEEEEEE
sorry unrelated
>>332735789
I've never played Dark Souls, nice attempt to change the subject though. Really makes me think you're an intelligent and well thought individual and not a complete idiot.
>>332735749
Dont project, it just proves how stupid you are. EVERYONE knows PC is harder to play on for all FPS games because M+KB is superior to controllers. But you keep living in lala land where somehow having inaccurate controllers makes for better players, rather than the opposite which is plainly obvious from literally every single cross platform game ever.
>>332735098
I don't think you've ever even seen this character ingame
>>332735801
>top 1%
Platinums are like 25% of the playerbase.
>>332735713
PSN players are heavy into playing JRPGs which don't require reflexes or precision.
So when people say PC has "Better Players", we're talking about pure skill, right? Not in terms of community, cooperation, and actual quality traits in players? Not that skill doesn't play a factor, but I'd rather play with some people with shittier aiming than fuckers who scream into mics and t-bag/taunt every single kill.
>>332735838
>It's funny Im at 57 hours into Squad and I almost always do better if I dont join a squad
You're a cod shitter who cant work in a team, no one gives a shit about you.
>>332735901
Goalposts moving doesn't change how much of a faggot you are. End yourself.
>>332735930
Thanks for backing up my REEEEEEEEEE comment.
You also probably go defend the wrong objectives constantly.
How many of you in this thread are shitposting about Siege, but haven't even played it? Show of hands now.
>>332735993
>everyone thinks im stupid and posts logical reasons why!
>no they are wrong i am right!
Uh huh, sure thing cod shitter.
>>332736024
I love playing siege
but all these faggots mindlessly defending all its flaws are delusional as fuck, its a 5/10 game that needs a shitton of fixing
>>332736075
>everyone
>muh socium
Go fuck yourself, SJW shitter.
>>332736075
> logical reasons
if you say so bro. Keep defending that uncapable hill with your Squad.
>>332736024
I played the beta and, well it didn't work.
But when it did, I didn't have much fun. The shooting was garbage with no recoil and the netcode made me reminiscent of Battlefield 4 at launch.
>>332736024
200+ hours here m8
>>332736156
>>332736207
>I posted on /v/ and everyone called me stupid!
>You are stupid
>N-not everyone thinks im stupid on /v/!
Uh huh, whatever you say cod shitter. Also the samefagging is just sad, stop it.
honestly everyone that says this is a good game hasn't played a rainbow six game before vegas
it's literally just counter strike with destruction, no spread and stupid dota heroes that are so overdesigned they look like they should be in an anime, it looks and runs like shit, tries and horribly fails to appeal to a competitive market and had the best element of rainbow six games, the coop all but completely stripped from it.
i guaratnee you wont find a single person in this thread that plays this meme game who doesn't also play garbage like csgo and dota, thats their target audience and it should say something about how trash this game is.
also, obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORTq4hSuNWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOrwjKDHFXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpkV_6KG8Fc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8SREt8xYoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRLlvpwYwMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcg8WyVrwM
shitty netcode and displaying players IP in games.
>>332736260
Do you have PTSD? I swear the majority of Squad players are the same.
>>332735991
How is it moving the goalposts? Fucking retarded saying Siege is like CoD but nobody here seems to actually play ranked and have gotten good at it. A lot of the playerbase is Platinum and any good player in ranked is Platinum. And any Platinum will tell you that high level play is slow and methodical as fuck. You can take any game and jump into a server full of retards and say the game is shit. And then join a server full of pros and get rekt and come cry on /v/.
>>332736358
Do you have some sort of mental condition? Complaining about people calling you stupid then to pretend they dont call you stupid?
>>332736271
Ahh the old nostalgia argument. Played them all and Siege has superior gameplay.
Snap shooting out of the tip of your head and 2 people circle strafing each other while spraying didnt make the old games better. Also everyone using a famas in R63.
>>332735486
They fixed desync, improved gameplay 100X
>>332736271
spotted the 8gagger
>>332736408
>How is it moving the goalposts?
Because it is, no one gives a flying shit about what the top 1% does. End yourself.
>>332736436
>Pro Squad player using excelent communication and teamwork with his 8 other squad mates.
>Wrong side of the map
"FUCKING COD SHITTER MAKING US LOSE!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
>>332736271
>i guaratnee you wont find a single person in this thread that plays this meme game who doesn't also play garbage like csgo and dota
500 hours in Insurgency, 300 hours in Arma 3, 200 hours in RO2, and I've just been getting into Squad, 30 hours so far.
Games real great and I really haven't really noticed the supposed netcode problems. The only thing that bothers me is the occasional rubber banding and drone glitches.
I'm about to break the 200 hours mark in the game and I'm still having crazy fun, it's pretty funny how often you play with the same people, feels like a tight little community.
>>332736489
And the Platinums, who comprise a decent part of the playerbase?
>>332736271
>teamkilling is so ebin u guise xDDD
absolute cancer
>>332729420
There's a singleplayer mode vs AI turrists
>>332736271
>honestly everyone that says this is a good game hasn't played a rainbow six game before vegas
I almost stopped reading here because I have in fact played the older games. I like the older games and I like Siege.
>stupid dota heroes that are so overdesigned they look like they should be in an anime
>>332731751
>Kapkan
Bringing the Super 90 back down to earth only leaves me hating Frost half as much now for being able to do Kapkan's job more effectively without having to worry about half as many factors like visibility and trap vulnerability, all while he remains useless when hunkering down or roaming (he's too loud).
His bombs are too easy to see, only have a handful of 'ideal' placement areas per map (thick walls that can't be shot through and minimise the visibility of the drillbit) and are trivial to destroy with gunfire without really slowing down the Attackers' pace. EMP vulnerability is just to add salt on the wound, since Frost's trap can't be detected by IQ or popped by Thatcher. It can even be better hidden using debris and barriers in places other than doorways and windows.
I'm really upset about this.
>>332736271
Yeah the older games are the pinnacle of tactical gameplay. What was ubisoft thinking with siege?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q6F_sW5-ig
>>332736758
>thick walls that can't be shot through and minimise the visibility of the drillbit
ohh shiiit, thanks for the tip. Will pay attention to this from now on.
>>332736847
>MP5k
>Six (6) frag grenades
>Third person view
>Even after more than a decade
Some things just never change
>>332731751
I still find Tachanka more useless than Kapkan. His turret cannot be deployed on the best spots, and on top of it all, it leaves him 100% vulnerable. Anyone who knows where he is can headshot him before he even sees them with the peeker's advantage.
Kapkan at the very least has a small chance that his traps may work on stupid players. It also can serve as an alarm, as the other team has to either shoot or EMP it to proceed.
Also IQ's ability can actually be really good. How? You can see through Smoke with it.
Reminder that Ubisoft had to literally halve the recoil on consoles for them to even have a chance
>>332737170
Chankatanka is definitely worst operator. Though when the game came out I could wipe out whole teams with him which was fun as fuck. Same with kapkan traps, havent had a trap kill in like 2 months now :(
>>332737401
They at LEAST have good Smgs. There are not terrible Operators, really. Those with subpar abilities have great weapons to compensate.
I swear if you just make the Kapkan laser become a wire, that would fucking fix everything.
>>332732543
At some point during the Rainbow Six franchise Ubisoft straight-up bought the rights to the Tom Clancy name. He maybe complained but it didn't matter.
>>332737558
http://www.cnet.com/news/ubisoft-buys-tom-clancys-name/
Was in 08, pretty sure he was happy with it. I'd be if I were him, some nice cash for doin jack shit.
>>332737401
>the one week where it could glitch invisble lasers and was an actual threat
either remove the laser or the fishook Ubi, please
>>332736925
Just remember that there aren't many doorways or windows like that and you have to count on the Attackers using them from the right direction.
Some advocates say that you should be putting his bombs on entry points where the attacking team is likely to break down barricades without worrying about who or what might be on the other side (i.e. the front door or windows which can be vaulted through), or in random places where they don't expect to encounter a Defender.
Neither really work even if you get the right doorways and windows. Only the newest player will go in without being mindful of a roamer or any kind of gadget and they only get more cautious around doorways once inside. Early warning is really the only reliable use for Kapkan's bombs, his weapons are the only reliable use for Kapkan.
>>332737857
I remember it getting a lot of positive feedback. Not sure why they decided they need to return everything back to the way it was.
>>332738018
>you should be putting his bombs on entry points where the attacking team is likely to break down barricades without worrying about who or what might be on the other side
This is what I usually do but it never works anymore. I even go the extra mile on lots of doors and hit it twice so theres a big hole that might focus someone's vision. Then they keep aimed at the hole, walk up to it, hit it once and kablammo. But like I said in another post doesnt work anymore.
But it sucks cause Im retarded enough to fall for obvious traps every once in a while because they are so rarely used I stop looking for them.
>>332730038
Blitz for attack WUB WUB WUB WUB and Frost for defense.
The dying general on /vg/ also makes me laugh every day. They barely even set up groups together and post shitty memes from 9gag and necro-bump the thread.
>>332738175
Differentfag. I only use kapkan when the challenge pops up, but even still, I don't even bother using his traps for kills. I just put them in doorways by the objective on the side that would require the attackers to expose themselves to destroy it. Even still there's always a good chance a thatcher will come along and wreck all the gadgets in the room anyways
>>332730038
Pulse. He's underutilized though he's not great in open areas
>>332738576
Was this recorded today?
If so then i was the rook, i had died and i watched you pull this crazy shit.
>>332738721
no this was like a month ago
>>332738769
Well then i guess that other pulse was just doing some similar shit.
>>332738859
Pulse is god tier on the right map. Shame he's 2nd least played defender
How is it compared to the Vegas games because those are my favorite. Will I enjoy this if I liked Vegas 1 & 2? I just hope the cover shooting isn't gone
>>332738956
Completely different
>>332737251
"""""""""trained""""""""" soldiers I see. Also nice shooting point and click master race
>>332730038
But Kapkan is just a worse version of Frost now.
Frost can put her traps anywhere while Kapkan needs a door or window.
Frost's traps are flat against the ground, can be hidden with barbed wire, and don't make noise, while Kapkan's glow like a christmas tree and make a wub wub noise.
Not to mention Frost's Super 90 is currently overpowered as fuck.
There's no reason not to pick Frost over Kapkan.
>>332739182
i have to pay real life money for frost.
>>332739289
Nah dude, you just have to pay with your time.
25k renown isn't THAT bad. If you play a couple of matches a day you'll have her in like a week.
>>332739357
You also have to pay that other stuff though and it's real life money.
>>332739408
What other stuff?
Is there a reason half of the CTs are running around in fucking skintight jeans and hoodies?
Why would you make what is essentially Counter-Strike with gadgets and shitty netcode into a hipster shooting simulator?
>>332739182
Recent patch nerfed Super 90's range to the same as the FBI auto shotguns. Like it matters since she's still strong and the range is still amazing.
I mean really, they Kapkan's glitch before it got patched was fair. It's a fucking trap. At least take away the obvious bolt that sticks out the door/window.
You guys think the change to Buck's shotgun will make him more desirable?
I'm excited to see how it goes when he can shoot once and make a hole big enough to vault through the drywall. It could make for amazing rushes.
>>332739479
GSG9 is technically always on call, so to illustrate that they put them in civilian clothing with tactical vests and helmets overtop.
>>332739453
There's a grey thing next to the reknown amount.
>>332739482
>Kapkan glitch
? I played this guy who had an invisible part on it and i assume that's what you're talking about but what does it do?
>>332739538
You don't have to use Ubisoft FunBux to buy the DLC characters. You can buy them with 25k renown OR real money. It's not some of each.
>>332739479
>Is there a reason half of the CTs are running around in fucking skintight jeans and hoodies?
gsg-9 rapid response teams
>>332739538
Ubisoft's jewbucks? I dunno but you don't need to pay anything to get the DLC operators. You just need 25k renown. The credits are so you can buy them with real money if you want.
>>332739610
Yeah when you could put his traps down without the glowing laser but still had the bolt.
>>332739610
You could remove the laser or have the trap pointed in weird directions.
It also sometimes allowed kapkans to phase into walls though which led to some real bullshit
Here's a little tip.
If you're against a team that's talking a bunch of shit any time they win a round or get a kill or whatever, have your team spam text chat with dumb jokes about weed. Just talk like the biggest dipshit stoner fuckup you can imagine.
If you end up winning, it makes the other team go ballistic thinking they got outplayed by morons who were taking bong rips between each round.
>>332730038
HE'S MY FUCKING MAN. HIS ASSAULT RIFLE IS SO FUCKING GOOD I LITERALLY GET TRIPLE KILLS ALL THE TIME.
>>332739659
25k renown is alot, isn't she a defender?
I bet she'd be a god tier attacker.
>>332739769
Bro i hold down my mic and take bong rips at the start of round. No one has said a word yet. Not gonna stop doin it either.
>>332739995
The problem is only your team can hear voice chat. You have to spam all text chat.
>>332739975
Shotguns are shit on attack. And her ability is bear traps. So she would be shit attacker
So why does every unit in this game have a female agent/soldier/whatever?
I get that you want the SJW brownie points, but maybe a game based on real life military or police units isn't the best place for it...
>>332740028
I even pause sometimes if Im the last person and left and do it, no laughs or nothing. mother fuckers.
>>332739995
Thats because people mute you
>>332740104
>Shotguns are shit on attack
Depends on the map, if it has small corridoors then it'd be great.
>>332740159
Nope, i still call shit out and talk after doin it. People respond.
FOOKEN LASEH SIGHTS
>>332740139
All these units do have females though. Except maybe spetsnaz, and they don't have any in game either. JTF2 probably is the only one that unrealistically has a female
>>332740139
Man who even gives a shit. This is a game where cybercops use window grenade tubes and taser drones to do cop stuff.
Does it really trigger you that much to hear a girl voice sometimes?
>>332740168
You're gonna get shit on by guys who most likely know where you are and can headshot you in less than a second with regular guns. But if you are a quiet roamer on defense and get close to attackers it's gg. Shotgun is especially good as Pulse.
>>332740342
What I find funny was old R6 had females and i never saw people complain. Only cause its a popular topic do people bitch.
>>332732862
>two retards get in a fist fight
>LOL ON PC IT WOULD BE OVER BEFORE CONSOLEFAGS EVEN KNOW IT
Shitters exist on every platform.
Fun fact, Thatcher's EMP grenades can temporarily disable the beeping metal detectors on some maps.
The electro-explosion is still loud enough that Defense is gonna know that you're near, but they may not know what door you're coming from if you silence the metal detectors.
My favorite 4
r8/h8
>>332740620
>Not Glaz
You no true Russian.
>>332740681
snipers are just pansies of long range
>>332740483
Yeah but I'd never pick them for my teams.
Its still BS though. spec ops units rarely select anyone apart from white males even if womyn are allowed to join these units. The original book did not feature any female operatives.
FBI HRT is hardly spec ops anyway, none of the original R6 operatives were from HRT or equivalent, generally CIA/actual military units.
>>332729201
>No create-an-operator
>No single player campaign
>Not enough weapons
And don't fucking say "IF THERES TOO MANY GUNS THEY ALL FEEL THE SAME" because Mass Effect 3 had a billion fucking guns and they all felt and sounded different.
>>332740839
>create-an-operator
>everyone always picks the best guns and abilities
>>332740798
HRT is nothing to sneeze at. They're trained as much as any military spec op units. Regional FBI SWAT is what you're thinking of.
>>332736847
>>332736457
>playing rainbow six pvp
Shake My Fucking Head Family
>>332736542
>a3
unplayable shovelware made to appeal to dayz kiddies, theres a reason every big group other than a3g still plays a2
>insurgency
csgo for autists that can't comprehend any of the strategy that takes place in csgo
>ro2
le ptsd sim xDDDd
>squad
entire game made up of the two or three 50 year old hicks you get in a ro2 server that take the game super seriously
you're not really proving your point about being a HARDKORE GAYMUR by listing a bunch of neo-shooters, just showing everyone your awful taste in videogames, none of which qualify as a tactical shooter
>>332741441
epic
>>332741441
Define "tactical shooter". With examples.
>>332741680
He has been playing the original operation flashpoint for the past 15 years straight.
>>332741680
swat 4
raven shield
do u have autism or something or do u actually fall for ubisoft marketing over being able to think for yourself haha siege is fucking garbage my man shake my fucking head dude
>>332739943
p2w operator in a game you already paid for. 10/10 would suck ubisoft dick again
>>332734078
No shit Arma does it better... It's a fucking sim... the ballistics in that game alone are fucking insane. And CoD bitches complain because its so hard lol Yeah, you fucking die if you catch a .30 in the face at 2700 feet per second
>>332742039
you don't have to pay anything
>>332730038
IQ
Too bad she's fucking worthless.
>>332742046
>CoD bitches
15 year old that thinks he's superior to his 15 year old friends by playing indie pixel art shovelware because "graphics dont matter dude" spotted
>>332742046
>No shit Arma does it better...
you've clearly never played arma before because if theres one consistent thing in arma its that every single thing in that disaster sits somewhere between medicore to terrible
arma having better hitboxes than this meme game is not a given, because arma has worse hitboxes than your average brown n bloom third person shooter console shovelware
comparing games to arma is an insult to those games because of how fucking bad arma is
if arma does something better than your game it's immediately garbage
also fun little fact: siege is actually garbage retard
>>332742308
>>332742308
>theres one consistent thing in arma its that every single thing in that disaster sits somewhere between medicore to terrible
True, but which choice we have?
>>332742308
go back to r*ddit kid
>>332733458
Nah, would mean peaking a corner you would be innacurate, therefor many firefights would become completely random.
>>332742510
i dont think i ever implied that arma isn't fun or theres a better option, it's just that bis is objectively the most mediocre group of barely functional retards on the planet
>>332742031
13 and 11 year old games. Fuck off already. You probably havent played either of those in years and even longer for the multiplayer portion.
>>332742935
yeah the genre is dead
that doesnt change the fact that siege is just counter strike but even more terrible desu
I like the buffed AUG
>>332742031
>raven shield
the only correct answer
you cant get any better than a dank smg
and an automatic sniper as a secondaryyeah fuck the gas bombs
>>332731370
assassins creed 2 was pre good senpai
>>332743017
This.
A shit copy of cs:go
Not even the good cs 0.8 or 1.6 or even css.
Just........
Why are terrorist never blowing up ubisoft?
We all would cheer.
>netcode
>server downtime
>hit recognition
>clipping through walls
>funky weapon skins
>cheaters
>teamkillers
>>332743242
But that's nerfed now
>>332742308
Arma 3 hit boxes are ok fuck up.
You dont know what you complain.
And yes arma in gerneral is better then siege or when it comes to tactical games.
Nothing that can even remotly compeat.
Now fuck off to your twitch shooter adsd games and cry for more hotpockets faggot.
>>332743625
all these problems exist but despite them, the games still the most compelling multiplayer experience ive had since 1.6
its pretty nuts
>>332742935
10 to 11 year old games doing everything better and still being mentiond and used to compare.
How shit can ubi jew be?
The amount of game design, art, coding fail in one company is criminal.
Does anyone have a wallpaper version of OPs pic?
>>332743769
could you try learning english before trying to make posts on an american board you thrid world shitskin
you clearly didnt understand a word i said and i cant understand a word you're trying to say in response because you're a sub 80IQ who probably lives in some muslim hellhole that doesnt even have internet
>>332729201
>Drones at the beginning of the round to everyone
>Grappling hooks are free and don't count as equipment slots
>Maps are too fucking small
>Gamemodes way too similar to each other
>Entire game basically boils down to "Hide and Seek, the Vidya"
>Mute is 5'7
Mute is cutest operator and you cant prove me wrong.
>>332731820
>>332732039
well vegas isnt a true rainbow six game either.
Fucking codify the series and use a name to sell it and of course all your underage faggots eat it up.
>>332743860
I agree Ubishil- I mean anon!
>>332744052
pretty sure everyones talking about raven shield you aspie
>>332744003
Oh you ubi jews did understand.
Nextime you want to write about somthing do your research.
Now fuck off and jew somwhere else around.
>>332744120
raven shield was the last good R6
>>332744194
no clearly not because anyone with english as their first language (and therefore white) can tell you I was saying rainbow six was garbage, I wasnt even talking about arma you stupid MUSLIM fucking idiot.
>>332744052
R6 vegas.
Hord mode coop.
Everything exept tactical.
Gears of rainbow.
Mass 6 effect.
Bla bla bla.
You murder more ' TERRORISTS' then even posibel.
>>332743628
implying i dont only get single bullet headshots
nigga i wipe teams that didnt think the defenders had a sniper
>people are still shiting on the best online fps to be released in years
Kek
Remember when you said it would be DOA?
Remember when you said it will be dead in a couple of weeks?
Remember when you said it would be dead in a couple of months?
Remember when you have spent all that time shitposting for nothing?
Why do you do it to yourselves, shitposters? Why do you constantly make yourselves look like idiots?
>>332744390
nobody can understand what the fuck you're saying you fucking thirdworlder
this is an american board
whites only
go back to africa/europe/mexico/afghanistan
>>332744417
i honestly want to play it its just expensive and I don't pay more than 20 unless I am really anticipating it, which Witcher 3 was the only one to make me pay more in the past couple of years.
>>332729201
>no single player for full price
>only 5vs5
>God awful net-code
>Awful servers
>Having to unlock operators
>Having to unlock items for weapons
>Barely any customization compared to previous Rainbow Six games
>Maps are too small
>$60 launch
>Terrorist Hunt is garbage
And it's somehow still Ubisoft's best game in years.
>>332744547
>>only 5vs5
Implying this is a bad thing. The maps and gamemodes are designed around 5v5.
It isn't Battlefield in large open areas, it is about breaching and clearing or defending buildings.
>>332744417
there are 4000 people playing right now
peak was 8000 today
before the monthly major update and 40% price cut, which is already starting to curve back to the norm, the average peak playercount was 2000 and often dipped below 1000
in contrast, garbage that nobody plays like terraria, borderlands 2 and the binding of isaac all have 2-3 times the current playercount even with its currently inflated stats
dead game
>>332738576
>sitting below a hatch with pulse
>watch someone walk up to it
>fire through and kill them as they try to place a charge
every time
love pulse
>>332744781
>using steam numbers for a ubisoft game on uplay
The retard award goes to you, mr shitposter.
>>332744547
This game doesn't really work with a singleplayer mode.
>>332744729
im pretty sure he wasnt asking for 16vs16 you illiterate retard, i guarantee you he was talking about this meme game not having coop or any kind of gamemode other than counter-strike hostange and counter-strike bomb defusal
>>332744291
lol the stormfront guy is a neckbeard who only loves oldschool games, whod have thought?
>>332744859
It could if they tried really. I see a good framework for single player missions with bots. They just didn't have time I guess with having to scrap Patriots
>>332744857
>people buy the ubi version for more money on a client nobody wants to use
lmao contain ur aspergers dude, the steam version is the version you get with retail and online store purchases too, nobody is fucking playing on the uplay exclusive version
>>332744912
>he was talking about this meme game not having coop or any kind
So you don't even know anything about the game you are shitposting about? I'm not even surprised.
>>332744912
>illiterate retarded
>im
>i
>hostange
Comfy shoes
>>332744859
>i've never played a rainbow six game that wasnt on a console in my life
great post f@m
>>332744729
if this game would cost around 20 dollars this would be fine but for the full price i expect more than this multiplayer mode.
>>332744859
would be a nice cheap developer excuse for lacking content.
>>332744970
No it's not. Even on the steam version you still have to use uplay on top of it. All the online retailers and cd key sales are all on uplay
>>332744975
the game does not have any kind of coop
dropping 60 hastily thrown together bots on the map and having them rush a room like its left 4 dead before calling it a day is not rainbow six coop
>>332744970
Just stop retard, you are nothing but a sad little turd. No one cares about your stupid uplay memes outside of /v/.
If you buy the game on Steam you don't even need to start it through steam.
Fact is the steam numbers are highly inaccurate and do not give you a correct number of people playing.
You keep posting false information to support your retarded shitposting though.
>>332731370
Underage detected
>>332745105
>the game does not have any kind of coop
Just stop.
>>332744080
lets be real, ubisoft got so lucky with this game- or did they? its a pretty niche title that really appeals to people like me who appreciate tactical games like swat and doorkickers. i had to beg my friends to pony up the money to buy it, but now we play every night and have a blast. im sure with a better publisher the game would be doing a lot better though. if anything, 4chan should really dig this game because it tries lots of interesting new things and doesnt play like any existing game on the market. theres lots of nice little touches and TECHNOLOGY and clearly lots of thought and care put into the game. its interesting and unique, and the devs took a chance making a really solid, unique game that doesnt have a huge mass market appeal. its not perfect at all, we're aware, the netcode is shit, the cheaters and latency issues sour the game sometimes, but its seriously my best game in a good long while. my friends and i love it to death
>>332745058
> Even on the steam version you still have to use uplay on top of it.
which matters why? the point was the steam stats are pretty fucking accurate and nobody bought the uplay exclusive version you stupid nigger
>All the online retailers and cd key sales are all on uplay
no they arent dude, i've bought from 3 resellers to cheat in this trash and they all have the steam key because uplay doesnt knock down the price in CIS countries the way steam does
>>332736632
>11 tutorial missions for the multi-player
Ok
>>332745209
i have 4 friends who purchased cdkeys for cheap and they were uplay only keys
>>332745167
>the netcode is shit, the cheaters and latency issues sour the game sometimes
Lets not forget that these problems are in all online FPS games, it isn't just Siege.
>>332745167
>and doorkickers.
you mean the phone game marketed solely on false advertising that doesnt require a single lick of tactical thought whatsoever? great opinion friend welcome 2 the trashcan
mfw i don't know 4 other people that would play with me.
>>332745289
Just how brainwashed by shitposting and memes are you.
>>332745209
Please point to me the steam keys here
http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-rainbow-six-siege-cd-key-compare-prices/
All ubisoft games now activate on uplay only. Steam version is still uplay but with steam on top of it. There is no way to activate it on steam without buying it from the steam store
>newfags unironically think siege is tactical
>>332745289
give it a try, it's great
>>332730038
This nigga. All day, everyday.
>>332739289
Not at all dude, I'm level 63 with all the operators but buck. Just means you won't afford any camos
>>332745167
This, it's a testament to how good the core game is that it has a decent player base despite technical/publisher issues, most other games would be dead.
>>332745284
its def more pronounced than in counter strike. latency is really the only problem i see (run to cover, player with high ping kills you despite on your screen being behind cover) and its rare. the real issue is that ranked matchmaking bugs. my friends and i sat in a 20m queue to plauy a ranked game tonight. at least the devs are aware but ffs guys
maybe its because im super low ranked
Have they fixed the netcode yet? The game is good, but i stopped playing for a few months until they fix all the issues.
>>332745669
Some games have it worse than other, BF4 is the worst I have ever seen.
But it is something that is a problem in all online games, not just FPS either. Although it is a fair criticism against a game you still have to take into account that it is one of the flaws of online gaming and peasant in all online game.
>>332742039
He's no better than any existing operator. Ash has a better gun and sledge is better for breaching. That and you don't have to pay a dime you autist
>>332745284
>shit netcode
yeah every fps game uses a proprietary meme engine with horrible packet dropping 16 tick servers and sends way too much data to enforce incredibly silly things like destruction even though it doesnt have any kind of detection for ESP making the game perform even more terrible
>the cheaters
pretty sure most pvp exclusive fps games have anti cheats? before you try to shitpost about fairfight, the ONLY thing that will trigger fairfight is killing everyone in spawn within 1 second with all headshots multiple times.
if you're going to be a drone and pretend that isn't true, fairfight announces all bans globally even cross platform, and yet you only see maybe two idiots getting banned a day despite this game having hundreds of cheaters.
here's my stats from cheating in this game for a couple hundred hours blatant aimbot through walls constantly since beta, i'd be banned even in a garbage polish shooter by this point, so nice try idiot but rainbow sixs problems aren't present in any fps with that size of budget i can name
>>332745359
>Steam version is still uplay but with steam on top of it. There is no way to activate it on steam without buying it from the steam store
how is this relevant at all to the discussion about the accuracy of steam stats aspergers man
Could have been tacticool game instead they tried to appeal to the ESPORTZ crowd
>>332745628
>>332745839
>BBUT YOU CAN GRIND FOR 15 HOURS TO GET HIM AND HES NOT EVEN THAT GOOD ITS NOT AN UPGRADE ITS A SIDEGRADE
you sound like the retards that defend russian free2play fps games rofl
>>332729201
they made a shooter when there was no demand for one
>>332745707
There was an update a couple days ago, only had time to play a couple matches but didn't notice any over the top peakers advantage. Nothing like this anyway but remember only played a few matches.
>>332735713
Don't worry about it anon, let them think a players skill is entirely based on the platform they use.
>>332745583
The laser sights line is from Thatcher, not Mute.
Both are top tier though.
>>332729201
No content for a sixty dollar game.
>>332746016
>lets have the server enforce each hole in the wall per tick to ensure nobody is using cheats to put holes in the wall in an extremely obscure way but lets not use any kind of anti cheat to stop people from just using ESP to make this extremely network performance heavy effect serve any purpose
also lets not use that same server enforcement to synchronize animations so players dont shoot a guy 15 times in the head while the server decides his shield animation is somewhere else
b r a v o
this is the game you paid 60 dollars for
>>332745967
You're a fucking moron
>what is achievement and progression
Honestly you fucks are cancer, probably just mad because you unlocked tachanka first and have no thumbs
>>332746039
why did we make a containment board for generals, pokemon and retro consoles but not one for just fucking aspie consolefags that think console games take any skill whatsoever lmfao
>>332746016
Sounds good, i'l give it another try soon. Shouldnt have taken them this long to do it though.
>>332745498
You sure told them oldfag xddd
>>332746189
haha i played the game and got the meme points to level up like its fucking warcraft because i need a carrot dangled in front of me to hold my attention for more than 11 seconds because i have severe aspergers
also no i used cheat engine to set my renown because this game is that fucking stupid u mad???
>>332746231
O yurrr show me onii chan click that enemy harder
>>332745873
Full retard the post.
All online games have cheaters and netcode problems, using it as something to shit on Siege specifically is retarded.
All online games on PC have these problems, it isn't unique to one single game e.g. Siege. It is in all of them and not just FPS games either.
As I said in >>332745819
Although it is a fair criticism, it is a flaw in online gaming and something that is a problem in all online games. You can't really use it to shit on one particular online game when all of them have the same issues.
>>332729201
>Ubi-Soft
>U-play
>>332745873
>how is this relevant at all to the discussion about the accuracy of steam stats aspergers man
To drive home that this is a uplay game first and foremost and not a steam game. Buying anywhere else will require you to activate on uplay and not steam
>>332746312
You're just a bitter fuck that doesn't know how to enjoy a game
>>332746396
Do you feel like you fit in now?
>>332746403
>Buying anywhere else will require you to activate on uplay and not steam
and have steam track its stats
you
gargantuan
retard
>>332745334
Its okay anon, it could of been like my situation where everyone i knew was awful at the game so I'd lose every time. Playing with pubs became fun because i'd actually have good teammates every once in a while. Thankfully all those people quit, pubs4lyfe
>>332746460
What is your point here? Are you suggesting steam tracks uplay stats? You cannot be this idiotic
>>332746392
>im just gonna ignore everything u said and defend a billion dollar company being too lazy to do something that your average unity game has
cool meme f&m
GAMES ARE HARD TO MAKE STOP BULLYING THE DEVS THEY WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT EVERY GAME HAS PROBLEMS STOP BEING SO TOXIC ;_;
thats u T B H
name one AAA fps with the budget of siege that has zero anti cheat, and 16 tick servers which are bad even by 16 tick servers running on a proprietary engine that uses massive amounts of bandwidth to enforce objectively useless bullshit serverside per tick for no reason at all while not using that power to synchronize actually important shit like shield animations
the game also has zero lag compensation which is responsible for the massive peekers advantage and kill trading despite the fact that valve offers open sourced code for that shit on the valve developer wiki and all you have to do is literally copy and paste it to have it work in any engine with minimal tweaking
tell me how that is not ubisoft incompetence, tell me how i shouldn't single this game out for such glaring flaws that the fucking fifteen year old who made unturned solved himself
>>332744291
You ubi niggers are anoying.
You talk shit about arma without having a singel fucking clue.
Mimimi dont have any arguments. Must call some one a goatfucker.
Go and play your twerk games or collect foodstamps. All you good for.
See.
Now again. Fuck off.
>>332746396
>sevice not ideal
>shit on constantly like it's literal aids
Never understood this, everyone was shitting on Origin constantly but after 500hrs on BF3 I never had an issue beyond the inconvenience of not being on steam.
>>332746565
you must have brain damage or something
if you buy the game on steam
and launch it through steam (which makes you launch it through uplay)
it tracks player stats
you must be logged in to steam to even launch the uplay-steam version through uplay, and it tracks your stats even if you directly launch it through uplay, try it and prove me wrong you stupid fucking nigger
>>332744781
DoD
Fail devs fail company fail comunety.
>>332746745
>16 tick rate
>no lag compensation
Nice try kiddo :-)
>>332746150
so can they even patch this mess
or do they have rewrite the entire netcode or engine, meaning it will never happen and never get really better
>>332736271
I never liked CS or DOTA but Siege is surprisingly amazing.
I play it nearly every day with a group of my friends.
>>332746761
yeah im a ubisoft shill despite the fact that my entire post was saying rainbow six is worse than arma and the post you are responding to is me carefully explaining that to your underdeveloped muslim brain
LEARN ENGLISH
BEFORE POSTING
ON AN ENGLISH IMAGEBOARD
YOU FUCKING SHITSKIN
>>332746832
I see your point now. You're trying very hard to shift the goal posts from steam stats being accurate for R6S players to steam stats being accurate for people that bought it on steam.
The fact is, all retailers and cd key sites activate the game only on uplay, not steam. Thus steam does not accurately track the number of players at all.
Fucking love this game. The tension it creates is absolutely fantastic. Whoever played it can confirm how adrenaline is pumping in your heart when its just all you left on the team and you hear footsteps of 3 guys behind the wall prepping to breach to your room. Despite its earlier issues, its probably the best game i played past 3 years.
Anyway, finally, and i mean finally the game is looking like a polished final build, and not beta shit. Ubisoft really should though drop the price for it drastically. Make it for a 20 bucks or smth. This game begs for larger community. Also, where the fuck are the new maps? Are they just going to release 1 map per 3 month period or what?
>>332746865
>server heartbeat corresponds to the whether or not the server updates the model position in advance after it starts moving to synchronize player positions
im sorry do you literally think tickrate exclusively means how often the server does a lag compensation tick?
>>332746867
the job would take minutes to implement, hours to test (which they skip every update anyways)
its honestly just pure unbridled incompetence
>>332747003
more like you're trying to say that steam stats dont count for people who bought it online, in stores or anywhere but directly from the uplay store, which they do
kill yourself
>>332746913
STFU YOU UBI NIGGER!
I SEE WHAT YOU DO THERE NOW FUCK OFF UBI NIGGER!
>>332747150
go back to africa
>>332746048
>Imaretard.jpg
That being said I love Thatcher
>>332747150
You are really fucking stupid. I bet you work for BIS or some bullshit.
>>332729201
No single player campaign.
Kind of like the new Battlefront.
>>332747143
Your grammar is so bad it actually sounds like you're arguing for two opposing points simultaneously.
Steam only tracks the stats of people that bought it on steam. You can guesstimate how many people bought it on steam or by other means all you want, but the steam stats are not an accurate reflection of the total PC rainbow six siege players at all
Oh, is this auto name thing the April Fools joke? Good one, gook moot.
>>332747418
>Steam only tracks the stats of people that bought it on steam.
and people who bought it from any retailer online or in stores
you must have brain damage if you cant even understand what i've been telling you for 15 minutes, regardless of if you agree with it
>>332738576
>>332744819
Did someone say Pulse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-e84Ms6i88
>>332747735
i wallhack with pulse and the entire enemy team always tells the person hackusating me to shut up because im just playing pulse
its really funny
>>332744540
I bought it new for 25 bongs online I bet you could find a 20 dollar copy somewhere
>>332747275
I wish. 15\10 dev compeard to ubi jew -5\10 with its femenazi death squads and shilling ubiniggers.
BIS improves. Ubi jews get only worser over years.
They are the french ea.
>>332747618
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>>332747723
Oh I understand. Your grammar is just horrible.
And you're going to have to explain how steam is supposed to track non steam stats, or why steam would even care to track a non steam games. You think steam tracks origin stats too?
>>332747876
>BIS improves
nice meme
name literally one time bis has improved
a3 is fucking shit and you can stop shilling for your disaster of a company at any time
Fucking incredible, took me 3 months to buy it and man I regret not getting it sooner.
Twitch is a boss and kapkan for defense
>>332746745
Anon you are a fucking retard, Siege's servers are 64 tick. They were originally 32 tick.
All online games have these problems, stop trying to make out Siege is the only one or it's problems are worse than other, because they aren't.
>>332747943
> steam is supposed to track non steam stats,
okay i guess i have to explain this to you extremely in depth because you actually have literal autism
buying a game from a store gives you a steam copy
so does buying one online from nearly anywhere but the official ubi store
that steam copy is then activated on uplay because ubisoft are jews
now regardless of how you launch the game, the game runs through uplay, but steamwebhelper (or gameoverlayui if you launch through steam://run/appid > uplay)
will track statistics and if launched through steam enable the in game overlay
so steam, retail and online sales are going to be shown as people playing that stupid fucking game
now if you're going to pretend that a significant number of people people go out of their way to use a universally hated drm client to buy a game that nobody willingly uses when those three alternatives exist you're fucking stupid
even if you said 50% of sales were on uplay, it would still have less players than fucking bordermemes 2 or terraria, its a dead game
also, you must be logged on to the steam account you registered the uplay game on, or the game will fail to launch from uplay
now you're going to disregard all that shit, pretend you didnt understand me or flat out ignore me, but im done trying to explain it to you since you have the mental capacity of a fucking toddler, if you want to prove me wrong, by all means launch a steam+uplay copy through only uplay and show me how it doesnt track your hours in game
>>332748636
they have always been 16 tick, they were originally peer 2 peer 16 tick and now they have dedicated servers, that was the improvement they made a few months ago
i know this because i fucking cheat in this stupid game and i cant update player positions per frame because they only update every 16ms serverside
did those incompetent retards lie on reddit about it being 64 tick? please link it because i'd love to shitpost actual proof showing otherwise to show what awful devs they are
The traps and gadgets aren't that important, if they would add more time to the setup phase and allow people to place like 3X the traps the game would be much more interesting. Right now you can bypass a lot of that and it's like playing one of those "glass" maps in counter-strike. I want to feel like I'm raiding a really dangerous place and be paranoid of traps and shit. Instead it's just rush in like a crazy person is the most efficient way to play.
>>332748868
>buying a game from a store gives you a steam copy
>so does buying one online from nearly anywhere but the official ubi store
Stopped right here because this is literally wrong. Everywhere except on steam and origin it is uplay only. You cannot activate the product on steam with a retail or online cd key. That's how ubisoft games have been for a while now.
>>332748868
>buying a game from a store gives you a steam copy
>so does buying one online from nearly anywhere but the official ubi store
>that steam copy is then activated on uplay because ubisoft are jews
>now regardless of how you launch the game, the game runs through uplay, but steamwebhelper (or gameoverlayui if you launch through steam://run/appid > uplay)
>will track statistics and if launched through steam enable the in game overlay
retard alert
every key site sells UPLAY keys that are NOT tracked in STEAM or can be activated in steam.
Sure you can get a steam key for $20 more or straight buy it on steam for $30 more but to do that you have to a retard as big as you.
>>332748868
>a universally hated drm client
Just how brainwashed by shitposting and memes are you?
No one cares about your ebin memes out side of /v/. Just look how desperate you are to completely ignore that the game statistics are not accurate.
You are basing all your logic on a fucking uplay meme that non autistic people on an anime image board din't give a shit about.
Leave your fucking basment and go outside instead of being so desperate to shit on a game.
>>332749282
the keys are listed as uplay keys because you need both and uplay is the one people would be concerned about, i've bought uplay keys from g2a and gk4a you stupid fucking nigger
buy one and prove me wrong or shut the fuck up t b h f a m
>>332749282
I only found one site that sells steam keys for r6s and I'm not even sure it's legit. There's others that sell steam gifts but that's different.
>>332749430
>i like running a second drm client to the other drm client i run constantly which holds no advantage over steam and only sells a dozen games at full price and its steamworks integration clone for friends lists is barely functional but thats okay because i enjoy nonfunctional things
yeah no, nobody would ever willingly use uplay if given the option, some iteration of a ubisoft client existed before ubi made it mandatory and i cant imagine you used it then
>>332749503
>the keys are listed as uplay keys because you need both
both what?
are you retarded?
You need the key and uplay.
Anyone running an Ubisoft game with steam and uplay is mentally retarded.
Buy a retail R6S and activate the code on steam.
You cant.
Prove me wrong, retard.
>>332749503
Everyone wants to use it on steam, not uplay. What kind of idiot marketing would list it as uplay if you could also activate it on steam. Literally retarded
>>332749725
>yeah no, nobody would ever willingly use uplay if given the option
nice memes valvedrone
Both Origin and Uplay are cleaner, faster and easier to use than shity Steam.
Steam was never good, just the first one.
>>332747032
Not at all, just find it hilarious you've pulled those numbers out your ass and think it doesn't have lag comp.
>>332729201
Its gets boring after a while. The maps are to small and game-play is limited to indoors always. So all maps need to be house like. It gets repetitive. But for the first 60 hours is fun as shit.
>>332749089
>i fucking cheat in this stupid game
Sometimes I think i have a shitty life but then I remember there are people who feel so shitty that they feel compelled to cheat in a game they dont even like playing.
What the fuck is wrong with 4chan layout ? Did it change for everyone ?
what the fuck is going on?
fucking april fools i swear to god
>>332751161
april jokes day i think
>>332751161
No Lila Reid, just you
>>332751161
Yes
>>332751078
watching idiots get mad at a bad video game is great fun
playing a bad video game is not
what dont you understand, cuck?
>>332751351
>cuck
of course someone so pathetic would use that word.
>>332751572
calm down jew
>>332741441
WAH EVERYTHING IS SHIT I HATE EVERYTHING
fuck off faggot
>>332729240
Yeah, nah.
Some of the worst netcode I've ever seen. Literally worse than 2006 CoD on the fuckin' 360.
Ubisoft cutting corners by using shit servers and subpar netcode to save money.
It's also hilarious that they tried to make the game an E-Sport right off the bat.
To name just a few glaring problems:
You can ironsight with 100% accuracy while vaulting, falling, rappelling, etc. Ironsighting IMMEDIATELY zeroes in your accuracy, allowing the classic, shitty quickscoping... which wouldn't be as huge a deal if it weren't so overpowered while using a shield. C4, grenades, and Fuze's special charges can kill you THROUGH walls that are completely unharmed by the explosion.
To reiterate how bad the netcode is; watching killcams is like watching footage from a different match; the peekers advantage is absolutely insane.
Cheating is rampant and STILL barely policed.
And, after all that, the worst thing is the matchmaking. Not only is this old fucking technology in broad terms, but this game has been out since the 1st of December and matchmaking is STILL as broken as it was during the first week.
Sigh. All that and I still play it fairly regularly for one reason only:
The most satisfying shotgun one-hit-kills coupled with hilarious ragdolls.
GG Ubisoft, ya found my weakness.
>>332753136
You can statisfy all you unaccurate shooting and RNG kills in the latest Counter Strike: Global Offensive
ITT: people who have never experienced Battlefield 4's netcode.
>>332753136
The perfect aiming on iron sights was shit. I was so used to cs 1.6 that i played the from hip fire. Even with the crazy spray pattern that six siege has i still has pretty good.
>>332753426
That addresses none of my issues whatsoever, but I mean, you tried. No one can take that away from you.
Also, not that I'm in love with CS:GO, but since their guns have highly predictable spray patterns, it's actually the opposite of RNG. Patterns are the exact opposite of random.
Do you understand where you went wrong there?
Gooooood.
>>332753545
battlefield 4 has kill trading and client side hit registration (which is better than the alternative in its case)
it's clear you havent played much siege if you dont realize what a disaster it is
>>332753765
>what a disaster it is
Pls stop, Siege uses client side hit detection as well.
>>332734280
>female
>operators
Pick one and only one.
>>332753545
True, I never bothered with BF4... Is it actually worse than Siege? That would be impressive.
Still, even IF BF4's netcode is worse, that doesn't mean Siege's isn't also laughable garbage.
>>332753757
>That addresses none of my issues whatsoever
it does
you complained that guns are accurate
>>332729201
Nobody cares about it and it's almost dead.
>>332753136
Also, don't forget the
fucking
client
side
smoke
grenades
TRUE E-SPORT, WOO!
>>332753545
you mean bc2 and bf3
>shoot someone
>hit registers 5 seconds later
Thanks DICE.
>>332753847
>Siege uses client side hit detection as well.
*according to you
as someone who cheats in this game and actualy knows how it works, thats so hilariously fucking wrong it hurts
>>332746016
but dont take my word for it, please explain to me how this webm quoted here is calculating the hits clientside
Too many concessions were made to make it an esports game rather than an operator game
>>332753979
the funny thing is you dont even need to inject a cheat to exploit that
you can lag switch a smoke grenade when it pops and completely ignore it
you could even do this at a lan and just claim its the game being fucking awful and nobody would argue it
10/10 esport desu
>>332754168
And it spectacularly failed at both, what a surprise.
>>332753915
Nnnnope, read it again. I complained about being able to ironsight WHILE performing actions that take one hand completely off the weapon while jumping around.
The fact that the guns are super accurate while ironsighted is FINE. It's just really unbalanced that your accuracy is still 100% while performing those actions... And that your accuracy is 100% the split second the animation to go to ironsights starts.
>>332729201
It's more tactical COD.
Can't believe I wasted money on this shit.
>>332754060
Which cheats, mind linking them? Im getting pretty fed up of cheaters and want to fight fire with fire.
ESP/wallhacks cant be detected anyway so no risk of banning.
>>332729423
I remember the inception of this fresh meme
I was in that thread, screencapped the original post. Glad to see it evolved
>>332754310
so basicly
you just have autism
>>332754060
The hit detection is client side, that why it isn't regerstring the hits.
Whta you see on your screen is caused by client side lag, to you it looks like you are shooting the guy. What is really happening is the guy you are shooting isn't where you are shoiting and has moved, because of the client side lag this hasn't happened on your screen yet.
You being a cheater tells me how dumb you are anyway.
>>332754472
Here, have a gif you attempting to make a coherent point.
Like I said before, you really tried and that's all that matters.
>>332754658
>aspie trying to pretend client side hit detection means the person GETTING SHOT determines if a hit registers
and you're calling me dumb holy shit you need to put a gun in your mouth right now
>>332754845
Holy shit you are fucking dumb, if you are going to shitpost learn about the thing you are shitposting about first.
>>332754845
Yeah, I was going to say... I don't think he quite understands what client-side means.
>>332754658
What the fuck are you even saying, retard?
Client side hit detection: the client shoots at someone and if he hits him on his client, it registers as a hit. If its server side then the server enforces a check if the guns raytrace hits the players hitbox position as determined by the server.
My 12 year old nephew that exclusively plays minecraft knows this shit, what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>332755054
Why are you completely changing the subject?
>>332754948
>UR STUPID
No, I'm pretty sure you're the stupid one as the three people are telling you simultaneously.
I can pastebin you my client side hit detection/ballistics code right now if you would like to have me make an even bigger ass out of you.
>>332755294
the subject is you dont know what client side hit detection is, rainbow six does not use it and you are extremely fucking stupid
>>332755534
What the fuck are you on about?
You said it isn't client side >>332754060
I said yes it is >>332754658
Now you are confirming that it does >>332755534
You are a fucking moron.
>>332753136
as much as i like r6s, this is all true
also shields can quick scope you and that makes them
strong as fuck
>>332755678
But it does.
>>332755768
three people are trying to explain to you that you dont know what client side hit detection even means and you're confusing it with server side detection because you have autism
Can I just take a second to bring up how SHITTY one hit kill quick-knifing is? It's outrageously bad game design and, honestly, really fucking lazy.
The ironic thing is, they actually have the groundwork for a decent melee system. When you melee a shield, the user's camera is thrown off and they have to take half a second to basically re-equip their gun before they can shoot.
Instead of dying from being lightly slashed in the shoulder, it would make WAY more sense for everyone to react like that when they get melee'd. If you turn a corner into an enemy, whoever gets the first hit off has an advantage. That way, player skill still factors into the exchange.
The person with the advantage could still panic and fuck up and/or the person who got knocked around may recover in time to get some shots off if they're good enough to re-aim quickly.
Essentially, the outcome is informed by more player skill... Which should always be the objective of competetive game design.
>>332756063
>Essentially, the outcome is informed by more player skill
Then it doesnt belong in Siege
Regards, Ubisoft
so how does hit detection and netcode work in Siege and why is it so fucked
>>332755768
You seriously have something wrong with your brain. I cant imagine how ignorant someone would have to be to say something that stupid and call other people idiots for disagreeing with him.
So let me break it down to the absolute fundamentals because you suffer from severe mental retardation and are probably quite high on the Autism spectrum;
A client in this case is the player connecting to the server
The server is the entity that hosts the game
Clientside hit detection means a client casts a ray from the middle of his screen or the tip of his gun to his crosshair, if that ray hits an enemy hitbox (in the position that the client sees it) before being stopped by an object, it will calculate as a hit and inform the server that this player has been shot to which the server will broadcast that information to the rest of the players
Rainbow six does not use this mechanism, because players would have perfect hit registration 100% of the time at the cost of kill trading and allowing cheaters to OPK or OnePositionKill (instantly kill everyone on the map by informing the server of fraudulent hits). This is possible in horrible games like America's Army, Warmode or The Division but neither of these things are the case in Siege as you can clearly see.
Server side hit detection means the server grabs the position of the client 1 who is firing and the client 2 who is being fired upon and draw a trace from client 1's gun to the point that client 1 is aiming at and check if any hitboxes block that path before a solid object does before informing the clients of a hit. (and any good server side hit detection would also compensate for the fact that these positions aren't quite accurate on either clients screen and implement lag compensation to try to position players as accurately as possible but Siege doesn't do this either because its shit)
Siege uses server side hit detection and you are EXTREMELY fucking stupid for trying to stubbornly insist otherwise.
>dad is part of swat team
>Whenever I play this game he sits behind me
>Tells me to check corners and screams at me whenever I fuck up
>Takes the controller from me and proceeds lecture me In the basics of Breaching and clearing a house
>tfw it actually works
I don't know what I was expecting
>>332757227
>>332757250
thanks Natasha
now it seems they have the right idea. then why does it suck so muchAND WHY WONT THEY FIX IT
Is this game better on Xbone or PS4? I assume PS4 has a more active community.
ITT: u r dum!
no u r!
no r dum!
u r srsly dum
No u r so dum
y r u so dum?
u r so dum u dont get it
no u r dum
>>332757542
Because 1, they flat out lie about the tickrate, it is 16 tick
2, No lag compensation meaning players are often not where they appear, creating a huge peekers advantage and occasional bad hit reg on moving targets
3, The rotation and animations of players are not synchronized even though there is no reason for them not to be, meaning i may see a guy facing in the wrong fucking direction or his shield in a slightly different position than the server sees it
These problems are so simple to fix that actual children without any budget have done it, it would certainly take far less than a day to 100% solve and debug if a single person at Ubisoft knew what they were doing and the company wasn't entirely composed of rainbow hair millennial women with art degrees in HR positions, alas that is exactly what Ubisoft is.
That is why Siege is /objectively/ a terrible game.
>>332758186
Aspie trying to save face after getting btfo by someone who actually makes video games detected.
>>332758448
u r so dum
>>332758378
fun way to prove this shit game is 16 tick and the developers are absolute liars without hacking:
download wireshark
filter for "ubi_"
join a rainbow six game
alt tab
capture packets for exactly one second
you will get 16~ results
do this with csgo and search for valve_ and you will get 64~ or 128~ depending on server
>>332758378
please tell me that pic is fake
or wait. Now I get it. The employees I see there are in charge of making coffee and cleaning. All is fine with the world.
>>332758378
>>332758378
>These problems are so simple to fix
ok Ubishit is only interested in making money and not in actually making great games. Even then shouldn't they still fix problems that are death warrants for a competetive multiplayer shooter?
I mean these issues are not about complaining about textures or voice acting, but actually at the core of the game being properly playable
>>332740253
FBI HRT has no female members. That chick is an attachment. SAS has no females. GSG9 has no female operators. GIGN has no female operators.
Do your research before you say stupid shit.
>>332759078if you want to ruin your morning, reverse image search it, its real
It's not the fact that they're lazy and trying to just make money, its the fact that they are literally incapable of making a game, every single one of their staff have got to be fucking idiots to let shit like this slide in 2016.
an even funnier example in the division as it actually does use client side hitreg is you can kill the entire instance of hundreds of players by taking their position, taking your position, subtracting the difference and adding a tiny bit to put them 2 feet in front of where you're facing only using cheat engine, something thats really only an effective tool against /flash games/
then setting the game speed to 100x speed also using cheat engine you can kill about 100 people per second completely ruining cumulative years of player work in game in under a minute
coincidentally, it would also take under a minute to solve this issue yet ubisoft doesn't seem to see it as a priority despite the fact that its so prevalent in the dark zone that most people stop playing the game at that point
they're just bad devs
>>332740139
SAS has Smoke, Sledge, Mute, and Thatcher. All male.
Spetsnaz has Glaz, Fuze, Tachanka, and Kapkan. All male.
>>332759402
you realize the entire reason they put women in during the development of the game was because kotaku and the like were putting out hundreds of insane hit pieces like this http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-disturbing-representation-of-women-in-the-rainbow-six-siege-e3-demo/1100-6420266/ and developers actually thought it might make them lose sales, this particular set of hit pieces is one of the things that sparked off those gamergate retards to start chimping out
the game only had female operators added after everyone bitched about the female hostage (which was removed completely)
you can thank tumblrites for making your shit game just a tiny bit worse ;)
>>332757429
Give us your father's wisdom, anon. I am curious.
>>332760421
I bet they gained a lot of sales
lots of fat whale transgender lesbian man hating operators out there waiting for tactical shooting
>>332760421
The female hostage is still in the game. There's just also a male one too. 50/50 chance of getting either.
>>332760421
goddamn this game looked so much better before they added in the stupid fucking grab bag operator shit
hilarious consolized downgrade too, the alpha had dynamic lights, functional HBAO+, physics objects reacted to getting shot instead of just popping like balloons and grenades actually pushed stuff around
still stupid as fuck they decided the game didnt need doors for some reason
>>332760708
are you sure? I've played this game quite a lot and I've only ever seen the male one, theres a chance i might not have noticed but that seems really unlikely
>>332729201
The idea is good, but you have to rely on other players is the problem, and they didn't put in Friendly Fire off. The fact you can kill team mates by default made it easily for everyone to be a dick since that is half of the gamer base now is them focusing on how to piss off others over finding fun working together.
>>332760421
>Female operators make the game worse for some reason
I'm glad I don't have autism like you.
>>332760708
>The female hostage is still in the game.
thats why ledditors constantly ask for her to be added back to the game right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/3v9ddg/where_is_the_hot_blonde_hostage/
Something went wrong? They did an excellent job getting rid of the X amount of lanes map styling of FPS games. Really innovative for a genre that needed it.
Makes for way more loose based strats on the pro level because of it.
>>332761007
100% positive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPUSGL5JhZo
Long video but they pick her up around 20 minutes.
>>332761412
They're complaining that her look was changed. Read more carefully and watch >>332761454
>>332761262
>>but you have to rely on other players is the problem
git gud noob and learn how to carry
>>332761454
well thats not the one from the alpha, they clearly cut her because she's too "damsel-ey"
>>332761363
>video games need shoehorned in out of place diversity to make every character a fucking dota hero like a fucking aboriginal canadian woman who they have to make look as chinese as possible because abbos just look too disgusting
im pretty sure less than half of the operators are white males despite the fact that in reality well over 99% of SOF/HRT forces are white males, but please spit out the "ITS A GAME ABOUT BEARTRAPS AND FLASHBANG RIOT SHIELDS AND ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC!!!" fallacy like im sure you're planning on doing you fucking cuck, dont let me interrupt your BLACKED session
>>332761808
>git gud noob and learn how to carry
>4 seconds in an asshole teammate shoots you for the laughs
>And you blame others for not being able to do anything because of assholes
Grow a brain
>>332762063
>less than half of the operators are white males
Oh definitely, but /v/ probably doesn't realize that Russians are not white.
Ubisoft was busy hyping the division rather than R6S
>>332762258
maybe they should have put their efforts into making at least one of those two games good?
>>332762063
Calm your autism kid. I don't get why you sperg out over women in Siege.
>>332732521
This april's fools jokes are going too far
>>332762164
Self loathing spic detected. Sorry Sanchez you'll never be white.
>>332762063
Who the fuck cares honestly.
I want to bury my face in IQ's butt and spend the rest of my life licking up and down.
>>332758186
This applies to literally every thread ever made.
>>332762597
>>332734770
>He doesn't know about all those cross play games back in the 360 days where even the shittiest PC players fucking dominated console users
>332729201
hackers happened
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