FINAL FANTASY XV NEEDS TO SELL 10 MILLION UNITS
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IT'S ALL FUCKING OVER
FINAL FANTASY IS FUCKED
>>332664392
Calm down, kid.
It's gonna sell that and more, anon.
How the fuck does this cunt even knows that, shitty clickbait shitty thread fuck off.
>>332664482
Nothing personnel.
I assume 15 mil worldwide. It'll be fine
>>332664392
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM
PC ver. at release could have helped quite a bit. Now it's too late Square, enjoy your bankruptcy
>>332664392
So a PC release is inevitable then, aight, fair enough
>>332664392
should be fine my cousin literally went today and bought a PS4 for FF15
This could sell 2 million or 20 million. Nothing would shock me anymore. I don't know where the playerbase for half the games these days comes from. I assume a shit rpg is a harder sell than a shit shooter though.
Well the graphics are gorgeous so it will probably be the best FF ever
>>332664392
PC and NX will help, you don't worry.
>>332664392
Cool. I hope FF finally crashes and burns and they go back to make good games again. The Bravely games were a step in the right direction.
>>332664773
I'm going to pop in my vote for worst graphics so far this gen.
>>332664392
So they expect half of Skyirm's lifetime total sales
Skyrim sold 20 mil right?
>>332664867
>NX
Can we get a FFVII reMASTER instead? Please?
>>332665013
It seems likely with Cloud in Smash
>>332664615
>PC ver. at release could have helped quite a bit.
Literally 500k copies
>>332664491
This. They could literally have released no information on the game at all other than its FF15 and it would still sell millions of copies on the name alone. That's how branding works.
Well, I guess that's the Final Fantasy.
>FF won't sell
lol
>skyrim > FF
I may be wrong but I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
>>332664392
Looking at the hordes of starving Sonyggers this doesn't seem so unrealistic.
>>332665190
Oh yeah, because normies absolutely love Final Fantasy don't they? Yeah it's just like Assassins Creed and Call of Duty
>>332664615
they make more money this way, hold off on pc and people will eventually cave and buy a console and the game then double down by the eventual pc release whilst avoiding pirates
>>332664392
with how FF sales tanked they should be very happy if they ever reach the half
>>332665231
>I may be wrong but I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
You are wrong.
>>332665098
Not necessarily, but it'd be really damn cool. I mean, fuck that remake.
>>332664392
>It's fucked
>The 270$ editions were sold out in less than an hour after opening the preorders.
>>332665246
I don't see dudebros wanting to buy a game so gay looking though.
IT'S A KOTAKU ARTICLE
I REPEAT
IT IS A KOTAKU ARTICLE
AAA games can't even sell that much.
Even when they do, they're STILL fucked.
FFXV, in development hell for a decade, is gonna be a fucking financial disaster.
>>332664392
>10 million to succeed
That's more realistic then I thought. I figured with all the other media elements, they would need like 20 million to break even. If it's just 10 to make a profit, then that's realistic. Might take 5 years to accomplish though, I have hesitation to believe a JRPG will be able to sell as well as Destiny, or GTA in a short amount of time.
>>332665542
why won't they die
Probably doomed. Not many games hit those numbers. At this point they may expect a loss and are trying to just get the game out so they can move on after a literal decade.
>>332665437
That happens with literally everything that has a CE or SE
I'm expecting it will break 10M pretty easily.
This is great news
It will flop so hard SE will go back to small budget games
>>332665231
same thing people said about Street Fighter
>IT'S SF BRO OF COURSE IT WILL SELL
TIP TOP KEK
>>332665612
Hulkster hasn't hit up his ATM yet.
It will probably sell 25M.
>>332665647
But dude...270 fucking $ for a fucking videogame...and it's sold out.
What's wrong with people?
Is this really supposed to be Luna?
>>332665363
yes casuals who buy final fantasy are literally just one tier lower than those who buy call of duty, it the "nerd" game where they want to feel special for playing something less popular
>>332664392
It will easily sell that many copies on ps4 in the first week after launch.
>>332665367
>consolefags actually believe this
If they didn't cave to bloodborne they certainly won't for this crap.
>>332664615
You'd be surprised at the number of people willing to buy it a second time.
Good thing they skipped the PC version, pirates would've halved their sales.
Honestly this is only because the development went so fucking stupid
>>332664392
>people will preorder this and buy it at launch after XIII happened
I hope it's good, but I'm never buying another Square game game at launch.
Noctis design is going to sink it all for potential new fans in the west.
People will see his emo attire and think "gay" and not pick it up. No seriously, I think that's going to have an absolutely huge impact on the mainstream success in the west.
>>332665246
You have to remember that the big PS4 exclusive that's always at the top of everyone's list (Bloodborne) didn't even break 3 million sales.
The vast hordes of PS4 owners really only play multiplat dudebro shit like CoD, Madden, Fifa, etc. They don't give a shit about Final Fantasy.
Why should I care about this game? Someone explain this to me.
Never played Final Fantasy never gave a single fuck about this series and from what they've shown so far it still does not interest me at all.
I like RPGs, I like big crazy games just fyi
I know at least 30 people getting the game.
>>332665808
Yeah and how many of those people ordered it so they can resell it on ebay for $400-$500?
>>332664392
it will do that easy
the entire of japan will have like 3 copies per household
>>332665584
>Might take 5 years to accomplish though,
That doesn't sound good, m8
cute?
10 million isn't that many for a AAA GRAFIX action game that's coming out on every platform
>>332665808
>270 fucking $ for a fucking videogame...and it's sold out.
The problem is 270 fucking $ for THIS fucking videogame. The level of delusion is off the charts. FF fags have surpassed Sonic fags in that regard.
>>332665808
Not him but I bought the 270$ edition to resell later at higher price.
>>332666032
>I like RPGs, I like big crazy games
those are literally reasons to get FFXV, which you would know if you gave yourself a chance to watch a sub-two minutes trailer
>>332666170
>Axel in a fedora
sure I guess?
>>332664491
13 only sold like 7 million across two platforms i dont think the FF name has that kind of appeal anymore since they keep doing retarded shit
>>332665821
Nah.
Even when you account for the fact that there is fuck all else to buy on the PS4 it will still only sell 5 or 6 million tops due to the fact that it's a faggoty ass looking JRPG and most people have too much self respect to buy something so gay.
>>332666178
XIII sold like half of that, though.
>>332665808
I know right?.
I bought two.To profit in eBay.
>>332666178
That's actually very sizeable
>>332664392
Frankly its probably 10m sales at full price. They keep adding shit like the cgi movie and increasing the cost of the product.
It will sell 5m at most. Sonyggers will say that it was enough because they started working on the game last week, and its an indie game made by 15 people. Funny thing, they will defend it like it was a ps exclusive when its in fact available on xbox too.
Expect at least 2 sequels reusing assets.
They put Max in it.
>>332666254
You also have to take into account how many of those 7 million people deeply regretted their purchase. It doesn't bode well.
how long until they announce the whole game will be split into 3 parts?
>>332664392
I assumed this after seeing an entire live event and a FUCKING CAR for a single video game.
It needs to sell about the same amount as The Witcher 3 and MGSV combined.
>>332666257
>people have too much self respect to buy something so gay
You know so little about your fellow man I'm happy you're stuck in /v/
>>332666178
Very few games sell that much. Even amongst the AAA multiplats they rarely see numbers like that.
I'm downloading the demo now to play for the first time. I'm thinking I'm probaly going to like it if its like Kingdom Hearts. So thats one sale from me.
>>332665820
This.
FF is on the same level as overrated triple AAA garbage western shit and FF15 will be just as bad as those games.
>>332664392
I'll be more than glad to be 1 in those 10M but I'm not sure if my PC will even manage to play that game on lowest resolution.
>>332665246
>Dudebros that largely ignored BB, when Dark Souls youtuber meme what at its peak, and having actually higher quality combat than ffxv and western appeal will for some reason buy ffxv
Bro adventure instead of whiny cunt feminist leads.
Cidney semen demon
Awesome open world.
Awesome battle system
Amazing production values
If you don't think this will sell like nuts you're crazy.
>>332666178
Yes it is. Especially for a JRPG.
It has to sell twice as much as The Witcher and Metal Gear Solid V to even be considered worth Square's time.
>>332666415
Which isn't unlikely. Literally no casual knew about witcher before 3 got 10/10 reviews and MGS has always been fairly niche for a AAA blockbuster.
>>332666475
It's not. You're going to be disappointed if you're expecting an action game.
>>332666475
Well its not. The gameplay is slow and controlling Noctis feel very sluggish and not responsive at all.
Also FPS drop like crazy.
JUST KEEP THROWING MONEY AT IT.
DON'T STOP. EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT IF WE JUST KEEP THROWING MONEY AT IT.
WHAT? SPIRITS WITHIN? WHAT'S THAT? KEEP THROWING.
>>332665907
I bought Collector's, Deluxe, and Standard Editions. I plan to buy the PC version when that comes out too.
>>332666178
>every platform
>>332666553
It's gay as fuck. Sure, it looks shiny, but casuals like action games, not games with numbers in them with clunky combat systems.
>>332666629
This. I don't know where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon.
Everyone looks fugly in the movie.
>>332664392
That's a little high considering FFVII didn't even break that. Its not impossible or anything, but there might be moderate backlash for it changing the gameplay style so much if the story's not great that could hold it back to 7 or 8 million even with the hype.
>>332666553
Except Japs want cute girls doing cute things
Westerners dont want the Thailand Backstreet boys
If BB didnt sell well to the ps4 audience this will never sell.
>>332664491
This.
Just testing if "this" triggers the upboat
>>332665924
SE's new PC releases now use Denuvo
>>332666451
If my only experience of the world was /v/ I'd think everyone on the planet was a weaboo who couldn't wait to buy 10 copies of this game.
"Normies" don't want to play games about gay Japanese pop stars and their retarded "nothing personal, kid" anime fights.
But will it take full advantage of my PS4K?
What people don't seem to understand is that 80% of PS4/Xbone owners are just like the Wii owner base. People who bought the console for one/two mainstream games (FIFA, GTA, CoD) or for something unrelated to videogames. They're casuals so they won't give a fuck about FFXV.
>>332666778
>where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon
MGS is most definitely a gaming icon, but being a gaming icon doesnt really mean anything in this discussion. Its about sales and MGS doesn't really sell compared to most other AAA games. You can be an icon and still sell poorly.
>>332664491
unless it gets the fifa lixense for the sport minigame it's impossible to sell more than 3M copies of anything on the PS4
>>332664392
this is a console seller in Japan so I would not shock me if they would sell console down there over this game.
>>332664935
nips are into FF so it would not shock me, if it became a console seller. why do you think Bravely even sold a dime in Japan? Because of the name Flying Fairy at the end, which is a nod to Final Fantasy the name alone.
if this and Persona 5 don't sell, I am certain that there will be an effect, so next to non jrpg in the west for a long time to come from these big companies.
>>332666778
>This. I don't know where /v/ got the idea that MGS was a gaming icon.
It is.
Metal Gear Solid 1 came along at the right time and place and become absolutely huge with a massive following, even after a lot of fans felt betrayed with MGS2 the franchise is still huge.
I think MGSV is the best selling MGS yet, it raked in more money than the Avengers at launch.
I smell another commercial failure.
they probably dont actually need to sell anywhere near that much since sony are most likely giving them hand jobs with wads of cash to make it exclusive
>>332666032
Just download the demo and see if anything catches your attention. It might turn you off a bit playing as young Noctis, but you can get a general idea of the new combat. Its free so you have nothing to lose but your time.
>>332665808
every limited edition of anything is sold out because of the scalper market whih allow not only easy laundering, but benefits at that
>>332666973
Id still argue that the MGS name carried more weight than mainline FF these days though.
Final Fantasy hasn't had a huge success since FFX and the sales show it.
>>332664392
it's been in development for at least 10 years. Considering it was announced as Versus XIII in 2006, there's a good chance it was at least in a pre-development phase before then. I'm not surprised they're looking for 10 million units in order for it to make money. This is exactly why if a game gets past 5 years in development and isn't ready for release it should just be scrapped, or salvage what you can and make a new game out of it.
Will it be the final Fantasy?
If the division did numbers I'm sure ff xv will also. It doesn't look like a FF game in the trailers; it looks like a crazy cyberpunk action game that all the kiddies will want.
> people think this wont sell fallout 4 numbers on ff7 hype alone
This place is delusional. Even battlefront moved 10 million copies
all 3 final fantasy 13 games barely sold a million worldwide.... shooting a little high arent ya SE?
I mean, GTAV had sold 11 million copies within 24 hours of release. Seeing FFXV's marketing budget, this shit will pass 10 million sales easily. Not as fast as GTAV, but will pass it. Plus with the eventual PC release will provide a boost in sales.
Its not unrealistic
>>332667139
The PoS that was FFXIII manage to sell 7.5m copies. I think XV can at least manage that.
>>332667218
>comparing gay backstreet boys to star normies
lol
>>332667218
Did battlefront really?
>>332666823
>otaku's are japan
stop
The fact that the whole cast looks like a boy band will kill this game in the west
>/v/ honestly believes FF isn't mainstream as fuck and that it won't sell at least 10mil.
Look my best friend is as normie as you get, he genuinely believes Skyrim is the best TES, he loves FO4 and thinks it is the best RPG ever made, and mostly plays Halo and CoD. He is hyped as fuck for this game, so you can believe that this is the average response most people will have. The game will sell a lot, I mean didn't the CE already sellout? It was $270 for fucks sake, that's almost FO4 levels of hype right there.
>>332666823
>If BB didnt sell well to the ps4 audience this will never sell.
Bloodborne sold extremely well because it was a game with a modest budget and it knew its audience. It rehashes tons of shit from Souls and no super expensive cutscene set-piece bullshit.
It was a huge success at just 2 million for Sony back during release, and I wouldn't be suprised if it has moved like 3 million at this point. Good word of mouth and being the only PS4 exlusive that's worth a shit gives it a slow burn aswell.
>>332666945
>What people don't seem to understand is that 80% of PS4/Xbone owners are just like the Wii owner base. People who bought the console for one/two mainstream games
This is a myth. The 360 had the highest attachment rate followed by the Wii. The console for casuals who just wanted one or two games last gen was the PS3, it had the lowest attachment rate.
>>332667307
>backstreet boys
>gay
To release it before the ps4k is a shit tactic. I would release it along the ps4k. Right now I dont have a ps4 and I wont buy a regular ps4 with the ps4k around the corner. Im pretty sure a lot of people share my dilemma.
I was planning on buying a ps4 and the game. But now I would prefer to wait for the ps4k some months later. Im not going to buy a ps4 and ffxv, just so 4 months later Sony releases a new console. But if Im going to wait then might as well just buy a new gpu for my pc and wait for the pc release. The game will be propobably re released on ps4k with more shit.
This will eat sales away.
>>332664392
Wow talk about a money sink, I woner if this will be the Spirits Within of Squenix.
10M for a game radically different from the original formula on console only ? Not happening, maybe they could with a PC release as well.
>>332667248
The desperate console cucks will snatch this game up because they have literally nothing else to play on their pathetic immobile laptops.
>>332667192
>>332667218
Those are games that the current normie audience was excited about.
What the fuck is Final Fantasy and why are those fags looking such fags.
They will need an NX & PC release to help that
FF isn't COD/GTA
>>332667139
Final Fantasy XIII is SE's fourth best selling game of all time, selling about 7m between two platforms. MGSV still hasn't sold 7m between FIVE platforms.
>>332667331
According to EA, yes. Think it was 12
>>332667248
>I mean, GTAV had sold 11 million copies within 24 hours of release.
It's also a much bigger series. Since III, GTA has regularly sold in the tens of millions, while only one Final Fantasy has been able to sell as well as they hope XV will.
>>332666945
>Source : my ass
Is this the most bloated release of all time?
Absolutely retarded numbers, and they're setting themselves up for a RE6 scenario. That said, XV has a shot in hell of pulling it off if it ends up being as good as it looks.
>>332667537
Look at the software sale charts dummy.
As someone with no investment in the series, it's gonna be fun to watch the ride no matter what happens.
>>332666990
>nips
Yeah, I can tell they want the fujo audience. Hopefully they'll fail.
P5 is cool as fuck though. This is lame.
>>332667347
>extremely well
>Literally nothing to play on the fucking console when it was released
>Dark medieval atmosphere with no weeb stuff, appeals to westerners
>Riding on Le super dificulty youtube meme
>Stellar reviews
>Follow up to the cult hit Demons Souls
>Playerbase already on the 20m by then
>2m
>Outsold by weird borderline indie shit like Splatoon on a dead console, also new ip
>Sold extremely well
No, no it didnt.
RANDOM HEADLINE OF SHITTY GAME JOURNALISM
HOLLLLLLLY FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>332666823
>underestimating the fujoshi crowd
>>332667474
> implying normies don't know about 7 remake, and by default this
Just put the flying car in a trailer at release and its golden. Or add in a 7 mini demo
>>332666363
>Sonyggers
It's multiplatform and if any group will say this are the XV fags.
>>332664940
OOOF SPICY MEME THERE FELLA
>>332667558
It might very well be now that I think about it.
>>332666032
I don't really give a shit if you care about it or not, dude.
>>332667605
FFXV is casual pandering baka. Why the hell would they jump the open world meme bandwagon with this entry.
>>332667657
Enjoy your vaporware then. Fucking Atlus. What happen with P5 anyway?
Weren't people saying the Japanese console industry hinges on this game being successful? Good, I hope it bombs.
>>332667684
are you retarded?
>>332664392
Square is done
>>332667826
To be fair FF alway had "open world" mentality with its world maps, this only westernizes the concept.
>>332667484
>still hasn't sold 7m
It's been out for six months. It took years for XIII to sell 7 million.
>>332665231
>I doubt asia plays elder scrolls.
you're 100% wrong, Skyrim was very well received in Japan
they just liked 3rd person mode more than the west
They canceled 10 of my UCE on the website. Just letting you guys know.
>>332664392
Game developers need to chill the fuck down. How fucking hard would it be to make games with reasonable budgets? Oh right, impossible from a business point of view.
>>332667347
Bloodborne was a very high profile release for the PS4 and it had fuck all competition. It doesn't matter what the budget of the game was or whether Sony was still able to turn a profit, a couple of million is not a great sales figures.
Bloodborne may have been a financial success but it was not a sales success.
It's a shit franchise and deserves to die.
>>332668015
sorry but it's <current year> games sell 90% of their lifetime units in 3 weeks.
YOU SEE THIS?
This is your future.
Was at the gym yesterday and two of the trainers were talking about the new demo. I don't know where you college nerds socialize, but I hang around plenty of normal dudes in their late 20s who already preordered XV or are just excited for a new FF game. On the other hand my best gay friend thinks the characters look too faggy (but he loves Cor and Hime).
>>332668205
Trying too hard to fit in there, kid.
>>332668163
This is just a case of devevolpment hell because someone didn't want to scrap his pet project no matter how much money it wasted.
>>332667684
Bloodborne sold well over Sony's expectations you cuck.
>XV has to sell more than every game besides VII
>off the back of XII, Type-0 and a bunch of other average as fuck games
>in an environment where Japanese games popularity is on a continual downward slope among the main stream
Uh.. good luck with that.
>>332667684
>No, no it didnt.
Hmmm, oh boy, some Anon on an imageboard, or Sony's offical statement, who am I supposed to trust here?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bloodborne-sales-surprised-sony/1100-6427389/
>>332668132
Works fine for me senpai.
My 3 preorders are still there.
>>332668015
you don't understand how sales work I see.
When did they add an anime series to it? Holy shit SE
STOP WASTING FUCKING MONEY
Now we have the anime series, the movie, the game, the car. This is stupid. At this rate this needs 15m sales
>>332667481
>PC
Just wait a few years after the console release. Also square uses Denuvo so you can bet there will be some booty blasted "potential customers" if it's announced.
>>332668163
Square already does modest budget games with franchises like Drakengard/Nier, Bravely, Star Ocean and Dragon Quest.
They just have a really weird relationship with the Final Fantasy franchise.
>>332668163
>developers
are a very little part of the budget. a third is sank into marketing. and half into out sourcing the graphics and assets(including voices).
>>332668295
He's right.
As soon as they merged with Enix, everything went to shit.
>>332668331
good goy, buy the damage control bullshit.
>>332668317
Why is this still up for discussion ?
For the amount of marketing BB received, the utter lack of competition in its gameplay and its sales windows and the massive viral marketing from fans, it sold like shit.
>>332668390
I do wonder how much they would need if they just kept it all to a game.
>>332664392
Where the hell do they get the number anyhow? Did SE literally said they need 10m sales? Or this is just another one of those clickbait article.
>>332668323
I like how they set the target so high but also decided to release a FF7 spinoff the same year so people will just go for the "safe" game instead of the new one.
>>332668567
Tabata interview
>>332666006
the game is on xboxone az well
>>332668396
>Spirits Within
What a huge fucking blunder.
>yfw SE meets their sales goal and then drops the episodic VII remake to solidify their future business for years
>Releasing game with incredibly high sales target
>money getting pumped into cgi and anime
>building a fucking car
It's happening again...
Look forward to Square-Enix-Atlus in 2018
>>332668623
If it's true then, 7R is their final trump card, or they could also whip up another MMO just to recoup the sale. Man, how fucking ambitious Tabata is.
>>332668496
>against all factual evidence, i am right
/v/ everyone
>>332668267
I don't know if Capcom wasn't expecting this. SFV's launch seemed geared towards the hardcore/competitive scene rather than the casual scene.
>>332668132
10 out of how many? NA or Europe?
>>332668395
Reminder that everytime SE launches an old game on pc it launchs at really low prices. You are just salty we will get the definitive version one year later for just 20 bucks
>>332664392
>exclusive
kek
>>332668402
> Marketing and assets are only bloated thing in modern gaming developement
Do your research, man. Dev teams have grown tenfold for an average AAA game from PS2 era, from 30-60 to +400 regulars and part time staff for end crunch. FFXV has had at least 150 people working on it for nearly a decade - of course the sales expectations are going to be high.
>>332665963
Dude, FF13 actually was very successful. Why do you think it was able to get as far as it did
>>332667484
>Fourth best selling
No, it's actually the 3rd
FF7: 10 million
FF10: 6.7million
FF13: 6.2 million
FF8: 6 million
The profitable sales to a game are only prominent in the year that the game is released.
>>332668396
Final Fantasy is just a big seller. Those games you named are lower budget and therefore don't need to sell millions of copies.
Kingdom Hearts is in that same boat with Final Fantasy.
>>332668734
Honestly, I was hoping for this. Just so I can get the 7R with just one purchase. Fuck the multipart bullshit.
>>332668487
>confronted with facts and sources.
>resorts to memes.
Disappointed but not surprised Anon.
>>332668656
Still a better film than Advent Children.
Plebs gonna pleb.
>>332664392
XIII sold 25mil
>>332666178
even for a triple A game its rare to sell more than 10 million copies
>>332664392
10 mil is nothing.
how many did gta V sell? a lot.
>>332664392
There is no way FF XV will sell 10 million on ps4 alone. We all know dudebros on xbone won't buy more like 1 million and pc is a fucking joke and pcuck don't buy games. Square is in deep shit - they are releasing multiplatform game and has to count on sales on single exclusively platform... They are screwed as fuck.
>>332668937
FF8 was around 8 million wasn't it?
>>332668902
Multiplats dumbass. There's going to be a PC release, ones they need the extra sales figures. Just be patient you cuck.
I was playing the demo and was severely underwhelmed by how simple the gameplay is. Why are we hyped for this?
Black Ops 3 made more than 550 million I don't see why Final Fantasy can't
>>332668173
>Bloodborne may have been a financial success but it was not a sales success.
Yes it was?
It was obviously made as a game to move consoles, it did that and then some, as Sony themselves have stated.
>>332669091
if you're going to use one of the best selling games of all time I guess it is pretty low
>>332669050
*7.5
>>332668567
>Did SE literally said they need 10m sales?
Yes, they did. But they did specify this is the required sales from it's lifetime, not the release window.
I sure hope they have accounted for the fact that they can't sell it at full price forever otherwise they have severely underestimated the lifetime sales numbers they need.
>>332665116
Fallout 4 has sold over 3 million in 4 months, GTA V at least 4 million in less than a year on Steam alone not counting retail copies, Witcher 3 1.5 million on Steam and not counting GOG/retail copies.
FFXV would've been at least an easy 2 million sold within the first year, assuming the game is any good and they had bothered releasing a competent port the same day as consoles.
>>332669105
Xbone will be the other 5 mililon. back in the day, Xbox wasn't well known for having a Final Fantasy game. FF13 established this easily and it's become a norm now.
Plus, Xbone has at least gotten better since it's terrible launch.
desu I cant believe delusional sedrones think this will come close to selling 10m, the room wasn't even full for fucks sake.
>>332669091
I don't know if you're pretending to be retarded but...
GTA V is the fastest selling entertainment (not just games) product in history
FF XV is a blemish compared to it
http://www.ibtimes.com/ps4-vs-xbox-one-sony-has-sold-over-35-million-playstation-4-consoles-2013-launch-2250196
Reminder that Sony sold 35 MILLION playstation 4s without releasing a single game worth owning on the system.
>>332666178
It actually is, unless you're talking about GTA or Call of Duty, 10 million units is a fuck load.
>>332665098
And Ryu for Street Fighter V and Snake for MGS 4? ;-)
>>332669205
>sameshit the game made more than 550 million
Gaming has truly gone to shit. compared to this FFXV sales expectations are reasonable
>>332668937
8 sold more than that senpai
>>332666681
>implying you would actually pay for it anyway if it was on PC
fuck off mustard race
>>332669412
denuvo has more or less stopped pirates from stealing games anon
Assuming it is shit, but has good marketing, it'll selll.
Casuals love bad games with good marketing.
>>332669252
This is just my gut feeling regarding what Tabata actually said. “10M sales for it to be successful”. I think this actually points to that one of the goal of XV was to surpass VII. How do you know if XV actually surpasses VII? Answer is, sales figures. But, I could be wrong though
>>332668163
in addition to modern marketing budgets ballooning cutting away at actual game funding
modern AAA games everyone! make sure you pre-order your mountain dewritos!
>>332665817DELETE THIS
>>332669227
>It was obviously made as a game to move consoles, it did that and then some
Roughly 5% of PS4 owners also own Bloodborne.
This is not just not a significant console seller figure, it's a failure as a console seller figure.
>>332664392
>>332669397
>>332669142
FF8 only has sold 7.85 million right now due to how many years it's been out.
FF8 came out in 1999 and it's 2016. That's at least 17 years. FF8 sold most of it's sales back in 1999-2000.
FF13 sold 7.25 million in 2016. FF13 sold most of it's sales back in 2010 with 6.2 million copies. That is only 6 years.
FF8 has had WAY too much time to build up while FF13 has only had about a little over a 3rd of that time
>people seriously comparing Bloodborne, an undermarketed game aimed for a niche audience, to fucking Final Fantasy: Metal Gear Brojob Edition
>>332669650
Still sold more than XIII :^)
>>332669650
its a videogame anon most of the sales occur with their first year
>Anime
>Movie
>Car
>Famous actors dubbing
Gee, I wonder why. All they need now is a FF XV launch party with supermodels.
>>332669650
Maybe because 13 had female lead and sexist westerners couldn't appreciate it?
VII: 9.72 mil
VIII: 8.15 mil
X: 6.6 mil
IX: 5.30 mil
XII: 5.2 mil
>anyone seriously expecting this shit to sell anywhere near 10
If there was no f7 remake on sight it would be possible to sell 10 millions, but now that f7 its on his way I see no point in wasting my money on final fantasy: boys love edition.
>ten million copies
>when only a hundred thousand people have a nogamestation4
>no pc release
L to the MAO
>>332669265
Saving this post for later use. Hope you don't mind. ;)
Easy. Release on Steam.
>>332666985
Good thing it's coming to PC then
>>332669807
the anime itself probably isnt that expensive to make since its being made by a-1
>>332669671
I think you're overestimating the popularity of FF
I'd imagine it'll sell around 7 million
>>332669860
dumb animeposter
>>332669168
Again, the demo strips the combat to it bare bones. There's no techniques, no party combos, no cross combos, and no summon. Watch the Niflheim footage again, and you'll see the combat is actually similar. But, performance was horrible. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since they've only announce the Umbra software use just 2 weeks ago
>>332669832
now look the sales for 13
>>332669607
>Roughly 5% of PS4 owners also own Bloodborne.
Which is fucking great? Most people who own a PS4 has like Call of Duty and Fifa for it. Bloodborne was designed to make more dedicated players want a PS4, not the dudebro audience.
>>332669924
And poorly animated, of course. But even then it's a cost. Also, I forgot Florence and the Machine singing Stand by Me.
>>332664392
Honestly the only way they could sell 10 mil is if they release for PC as well.
>>332664392
it really is over, they need to just scrap the game at this point
from the looks of things literally nobody is going to buy the game
everyone probably just wants kingdom hearts 3
>>332669263
>xbone will sell 5 m
TOP KUK. This isn't fucking COD, this is japanese game - look at their sales on xbone, fuck - look at the sales of type 0 HD
>>332670041
Final Fantasy XIII: 6.5 million
Final Fantasy XIII-2: 3.1 million
Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII: 1.4 million
That was in 2014 and you can probably add a few million to those numbers now that they're all out on Steam as well.
>>332664392
Already failed since they are making "video game products"
>>332664392
You could say it will be their *puts on sunglasses* final final fantasy
>>332669834
A lot of people are going to buy a ps4 just for this title but might wait for the ps4k. I know I do.
>>332670041
>Final Fantasy XIII: 6.5 million
>Final Fantasy XIII-2: 3.1 million
>Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII: 1.4 million
Yeah, things sure look good now, don't they?
>>332669736
>>332669750
>>332669827
Not really, timeline wise, FF8 still has sold less due to the fact that that FF8 has had way much more time than FF13. If we compared the same time frame with FF13, then FF8 still is inferior to the sales
>FF8: 6 million in 1999-2000
>FF13: 6.2 million in 2010
>Every year, FF8 sells 115,625 after
>Every year, FF13 sells 208,333 after
>FF13 sold 7.25 million in 2016
>FF8 sold 6.578 million in 2005
It's still inferior.
10 million is about half the average sales for a call of duty game. GTA4 sold 2.5 times that amount with tons of controversy no less. Considering how vidya has boomed in popularity since 2008 and how marketing has become even more powerful with how twitter, facebook and youtube exploded, I'd image GTA4 would sell way, way more than that. These things would have also affect FF13's 6.5 million units sold.
Aaron Paul has 2.57 million followers on Twitter alone. He will shill this game most likely.
PlayStation has 10.6 million followers on Twitter. The PS4 has sold +35 million units, about a third of the lifetime sales of the Wii, the fastest selling console of all time. And the PS4 is only one of two platforms the game will be released on. Xbone will pretty much always have somewhere between a half to a third of the sold units of the PS4 (according to the wiki page, its at >10 million). If the console sales ratio reflects game sold, then for every three copies sold on the PS4, one will sell on the xbone.
and WHO is going to buy it?
The japs don't have PS4's to make a difference.
The artstyle and character that they've shown they don't appeal to western audiences.
FF as a franchise is washed up. FF is not something that the mainstream vidya pleb cares about not anymore.
?????????????????????
>>332670276
>>332670397
7 million anon keep up
A random journalist on the internet knows the exact figure needed to recoup costs for the game. WOAH
>>332670324
There's still the long awaied 7Remake though.
>>332670276
>you can probably add a few million to those numbers now that they're all out on Steam as well
If you said "add a few hundred thousand" more you'd be a lot closer to the truth.
>>332670397
>>332670276
FF13 is the number title
FF13-2 and LR are the spinoff games
>X-2 sold 3.4 million
>FF10 HD remaster: 1.6 million
>Crisis Core: 2.57 million
>Dirge of Cerberus: 1.2 million
>Before Crisis: 1 million
>Advent Children: 2.6 million physical + ticket sales
Spinoff games don't sell anywhere as much
>>332667337
japanese people who play ff are though
fuck weebs tho
>>332670416
I mean sure if you want to be that autistic about it
>>332669168
>we
I'm not hyped for anything. This will be TW3's JRPG equivalent.
>>332665963
This. Honestly it still just looks like a bloated mass marketed mess to me and I'm skeptical as hell about the game play an experience overall. Then again what do you expect from what I'm pretty sure is the longest development cycle for a Japanese game ever that started before the console market started to take a severe downturn. I can see people who have never played FL yet alone a Japanese game before getting caught up in the usual marketing hype and then being like WTF when the character interactions are all fruity Japanese written nonsense and the game play is ass. "What do you mean there's no multiplayer?" Etc
>>332664392
Boy howdy, that is one sexy boat.
>>332669205
The issue is, the only games that have consistently been able to make +10 million sales so far are
> 2D Mario's
> Mario Kart
> Call of Duty
> Battlefield
> Bethesda RPGs (Fallout 3 is just a bit over 10 million, Fallout 4 at least 11 million, New Vegas is roughly 8.5 million, Skyrim is 20 million)
> Pokemon
> Sims
Also relatively said, Zelda games sell insane amounts for the amount of systems. Ocarina has sold 7 million copies with around 20 million N64s sold, so it is pretty much relatively to the feat here)
>>332670459
4m on ps4, 2m on xbone for the first year.
Thats it. 1m on nx and 500k on pc later.
Anyone expecting more overrated the appeal of faggy boybands on the west and washed up Kingdom hearts gameplay.
>>332670565
*takes off sunglasses*
>>332670416
>FF13 sold 7.25 million in 2016
>not using your amazing future-telling powers to guess lotto numbers
>>332670428
they will definetly be exposed to it but the majority doesn't buy it in the end anyway
Like you could argue some lets play fags will play it but their audience doesn't want to play the game, they want to see it being played. That's a difference
>>332664392
They'll push hard the first year on PS4/Xbone. Then PC will be an easy boost to sales including people buying a second copy to play with higher settings.
>>332670459
The japs didn't have ps3s when ffxiii came out and ffxiii's characters are even less western.
The belief that cultural demographics matter is greatly exaggerated. Advertisement is the only thing that matters really.
>>332670674
kingdom hearts 2 sold 5 million copies on the ps2
15 will probably surpass it
>>332670574
13-2 and LR are sequels, not spinoffs. Type 0 is a spinoff.
I just finished the demo and MY GOD IT WAS HORRIBLE.
It looked great and had great music, but the grown up Noctis combat was just fucking bad. No mobility, slow as fuck, can't dodge for shit.
If this is end game it's going to be yet another MGSV. I swear to god if square doesn't fix this shit I hope they flop and I don't give a shit if I don't see KH3.
>>332670616
I'm not. This is how it goes down. FF8 just looks bigger because it's had more time to sell than FF13.
The year that Final Fantasy games come out is when the biggest profit comes out.
FF15 is looking at it's 10 million in that first year. Just like FF7 did.
>>332670776
Not that guy, but there is a cultural difference. Japanese hate Xbox. Americans were just bigger on Xbox back in 360 era.
The stylish main characters just make me think they're all gonna be fashion models like Lightning is now with their in game models used in ads.
Now they can do group shots.
>>332670639
So trash?
>>332670574
and crisis core is impressive since it was never released on anything but physical UMD discs for PSP
Is it called XV because it runs at 15 fps?
>>332666403
Considering Sonyplex is involved now and this js still part of the bloated clusterfuck that has been Fabula Nova Crystallis that has yet to produce a single good FF game.I'd say bank it
>>332670881
no its a spinoff like dirge of Cerberus
>>332670936Yes
>>332670651
Daily reminder that Type Zero HD is shit too and was only hyped because it was a never ever title.
Its like playing Xenogears 2nd disc all over. Literally the best shit happens off screen or you get some stupid text describing the cool stuff you will never play. The game is also extremely easy, you can literally solo the whole game with Rem after you get the first eidolon. Or just snipping from far away with Trey.
The characters are shallow, hollow and boring.
The bad guys dont have enough charisma to carry the game.
The only good things about the game are the fmvs.
>>332670764
>crippling PC sales by delaying it a year
By that time most people would have lost interest..
>>332670574
Oh, fuck off.
Only half the people who played FFXII had any interest in playing FFXIII-2, the sequel. Only half of them had any interest in playing the third title in the trilogy, and SE does refer to them all as a trilogy, not a main game and two spin offs.
Those are fucking terrible numbers. Sequels are supposed to increase your audience, not lose half of them.
Who preordered?
>>332670881
>>332670959
>>332671071
No, FF13-2, LR, X-2 and the FF7 compilations are spinoffs.They are categorized as such:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy#Remakes.2C_sequels_and_spin-offs
See picture for main entry list. By your logic, FF10 and FF7 are failures since their spinoff products didn't sell anywhere near as much.
>>332670428
>10 million is about half the average sales for a call of duty game. GTA4 sold 2.5 times that amount with tons of controversy no less. Considering how vidya has boomed in popularity since 2008 and how marketing has become even more powerful with how twitter, facebook and youtube exploded, I'd image GTA4 would sell way, way more than that. These things would have also affect FF13's 6.5 million units sold.
A few giants float to the top, but everything else pretty much stays at the same level. More people are buying the same game, making a chosen few extremely successful.
I don't think Final Fantasy is in that crowd anymore, does it have a strong fanbase? Absolutely, one of the strongest. But that's one past glories.
Most younger generations simply don't give a fuck about Final Fantasy, or japanese games in general for that matter, they grew up after japanese games were the kings. Sure, they'll see those FFXV commericals, and they'll think "ANIME GAY SHIT" and move on.
I seriously doubt FFXV will break 10 million, it doesn't have the mainstream appeal for that. Not like Call of Duty or GTA does.
>>332670861
Yes, but it had disney characters, ffvii characters and got a free ride on the WAKE ME UP I CANT WAKE UP, pssht nothing personel crowd.
The context is way different now.
>buying any Square product since 2001
Shiggity.
>>332670459
ALSO
This is a 2016 holiday release right? It's going to have insane competition.
I feel sorry for Square Enix and the studio who made this but if those numbers are correct and they need that much back well they're done.
>>332671097
>mfw one of the 30,000
>>332671062
It's a shit tactic, but we're still going to buy it because that has become the norm for this shitty industry.
>>332671232
>he didnt buy twewy
>>332669919
where it sells 1/3 as much until a decade later when it's been on sale for $5 a bunch of times and only then will PCfats buy it
>>332671062
They know the PC market is full of cheapskates who just wait for sales if a game cost more than $10.
Delay til the price drop is in and then "launch" it as a cheap game on PC, avoid all the launch piracy hassles. It's pretty smart.
>>332664392
Just include a Lightning skin and it's good to go
>>332666663
I think they're just counting on the fact that nowadays consumers have amazingly poor memories of past fiasco and that there as millions of stupid people around the world that will gleefully throw money at anything as long as you pump them full of enough hype just to be able to say they were there when the hype went down. I love it when they say shit like how proud they are for pre-ordering the box sets with tons of useless crap and act like they're sticking it to "all the haters" out there cause I'm pretty sure I'm not the one wasting my money and have anything to be ashamed of. The fact that consumerism and peer pressure is at that level for some of this triple a shit is how they're able to keep getting away with making shitty games and nobody ever learns that throwing caveat emptor to the wind the first time the opportunity presents itself doesn't make you look cool so much as gullible.
>>332671071
>Oh, fuck off.
No, YOU fuck off. How does that make you feel, huh faggot? YOU fuck off.
>>332671303
>but we're still going to buy it
Some will, but think of all the lost revenue. Most game sales come from release, once that window passes it's already dead game.
>>332670570
Shhh, we're on /v/, where the 65 million people on steam don't consist of 64 million people who literally only play Dota/CSGO.
r/pcmasterrace has completely brainwashed the place. /v/ is now fully running along with the narrative of AAA PC gaming being bigger than consoles.
>>332671232
ffxii, DQJ, DQM, DQ, twewy, ff curtain call are decent/good enough.
Hitman, Lora the dong raider, xiii trilogy, explorers, ffx and hd port, bravely second, type zero are all shit.
>>332671451
denuvo already killed the pirate scene for an entire year minimum delaying it wont stop pirates
>>332671501
>that asspain
LMAO dial it back, son
>>332671097
>he saved the thumbnail
1st day on the internet, bucko?
>>332671568
unless its one of the big hitters like cod or gta triple A gaming on pc is about the same size as consoles
>>332671495
Toriyama, go to bed. You still need to recover from the hosts and Sakaguchi burning you last night.
>>332671451
>avoid all the launch piracy hassles
Piracy doesn't affect sales as well as the delusional marketers think. And PCucks aren't as smart as they think. They'll buy at full price like any other consoletard. It's an idiotic move that only lowers sales since most of the money is made when the hype is still fresh.
>>332664935
>Bravely Default
>a step in the right direction
ahahaha you can't be fucking serious.
>>332664392
>NEEDS to sell
What happens if it doesnt?
Whatever it is its not my concern.
No one asked for them to spend so many years in the game.
>Most hyped game of the most popular jrpg franchise
>Waifus
>Anime
>Movie
>Demo
>Marketing out the ass
Itll sell. Will it live up to the hype? Maybe, maybe not.
>>332671694
no thats just the resolution the PS4 is capable of handling
you're looking for the PC version
>>332664615
They already have money coming in from PC FF fans, it's called ff14 subs. Lord knows the money certainly doesn't go back into the game.
>>332671747
He never said anything like that dude 'burning' you try and project dude.
It's just that it's been a long time since Sagaguchi actually was in any part of the main entries (2001 was the last time I believe).
>>332671179
It's says fucking "2" right there in the title. It's a sequel.
You don't get to ignore poor sales figures by just saying "It's not a REAL Final Fantasy game."
Dirge of Cerberus and FFX-2 didn't sell as well not because they didn't have the next roman numeral in their titles but because no one was interested in them. One was a terrible TPS and the other was for girls and fags, a fairly limited market.
>>332666985
It's coming to PC, XB1, and probably NX
>>332671805
>What happens if it doesnt?
then SE won't make any profits
the point of a company is to make a product which will return more money than was used on it. if this doesnt sell the given number of units, SE has failed as a company in the eyes of the businessmen anyway.
>>332671745
Fallout 4, a game in a series that is PCfat to the core, sold 3 times more at launch on PS4 than on PC.
It is literally fucking insane how thick this meme has caught on. You dumbshits keep bringing up steamspy numbers for games that have been on sale for $5 a million times and compare it to launch-week sales for full-price console versions. Skyrim and Dark Souls seem to be favorites for this.
Just be happy with your higher framerates/resolutions and cheaper games. Quit trying to fudge the numbers so hard that you sound like the bigger market as well.
>>332671451
Skyrimjob made as much money as it did on PC as consoles. Delaying the PC launch will only end up in lost sales. Especially if they wait it out and sell it at a discount.
>>332671841
k, pic attached is the pc version.
>>332668015
I believe it broke 1 million while still only out in Japan (!), and 5 million within the first year.
>>332671902
No it's not. You are judging a book by it's cover. Not by the content. The games of X-2 and XIII-2 are not sequels because the content is not made as a number title final Fantasy.
Titles don't automatically mean "it's a sequel". Those games are Final Fantasy spinoffs, not main entries. If they were main entires, their content would be far more number title like like in FFvs13 change to FF15. One was a spinoff, but the moment it got promoted, the content changed and the experimentation was taken out of Versus.
>>332671835
You talkin' about the FF7 remake?
>>332672020
>You dumbshits keep bringing up steamspy numbers for games that have been on sale for $5 a million times and compare it to launch-week sales for full-price console versions. Skyrim and Dark Souls seem to be favorites for this.
it reminds me of all those "$346.92 console-crusher build!!1" pc buildan guides where the very first thing they say is that they got a hand-me-down i5 from a friend
>total so far is $0 :^)
>>332672134
Okay, then when was the last time Sagaguchi had a major role in a Final Fantasy game? FF10 I believe. The dude has had a pretty big role in FF15 given how he's popped up for this kind of presentation and got a personal look into the game itself before anybody outside the project did. That hasn't happened in over 15 years.
>there are people here who preordered the god awful ultimate collection edition knowing that play arts figures are shit and over priced
>>332664392
thats it? itll sell that before summer even fucking starts.
>>332668267
The interesting part is that also had Sony jumping on board to market the crap out of it just like what's happening with FFXV now so if the trend follows....pretty much everything Sony touches these days ends up with bloated marketing campaigns that end up losing people money in the long run.
>>332672020
>FALLOUT 4
>PC to the core
WEW LAD
Haven't been following that game much. Will it at least have towns, NPCs and actual sidequests?
>>332672290
>thinking people ordered the ultimate collection for the figure
>>332672290
I bought a few to sell desu senpai
>>332672329
The interesting part is its at best a third of the game thats been out for years and sells for $5 in a genre thats dead to the masses
They need help.
Hell console gaming in Japan needs help in general otherwise it will survive to see the next console generation.
>>332672276
...that's not what i'm laughing at. It's more you thinking FXIII wasn't a train wreck and his comments regarding FF going back on the right path. But okay, keep having a hard on for XIII. It's okay to have shit taste. I just don't know how that feels like, is all.
>>332665363
Final Fantasy and Persona are the only RPGs franchise who are still relevant in the west no matter what. They are pretty much Mario-tier at this point.
if you pre-order the ultimate collector's edition do you have to pay right away or is it like Amazon where they don't charge you till it ships?
>>332664392
Even Witcher 3 didn't sell that much
Fucking RIP
>>332672472
>called out on shitty argument
>"better pretend he said fallout 4 is pc to the core and not just the series in general"
You forgot your sadfrog edit. Go on. I'm sure you have a folder of them.
>>332668331
Sony PR is regularly full of shit and damage control spin so take it with a grain of salt. They call almost everything a surprise success or huge windfall publicly yet behind closed doors who knows. They probably claim amazing Spiderman 2 was a masterpiece worthy of an Oscar nomination for the entire production team
>>332672476
Yes. Its an open world game, not a hallway sim like x and 13
>>332672276
Actually the last time he actually did something for the game was FF7 and Parasite Eve. Which happen to be Squares last good games.
>>332664392
maybe they shouldn't have made a fucking movie
>>332664392
10 is easy. I haven't bought a ff since 9 and I'll buy this. It's like Sar wars too bag to fail
>>332664392
Bro
http://pureplaystation.com/final-fantasy-xv-pre-orders-for-ps4-have-already-sold-out-on-amazon/2016/03/
This is just the standard edition, it's back in stock but I can't recall preorders selling out before. It'll hit 10m no problem
>>332672481
What would they buy it for, a 10 odllar artbook that it comes with?
>>332665612
Nanomachines anon
Games this gen are selling less, not more.
>>332672509
>It's more you thinking FXIII wasn't a train wreck
But it wasn't. It was quite successful with being received quite well, selling very well and even getting a subseries
>and his comments regarding FF going back on the right path
I think he's talking about how FF14 was a massive failure that damaged the franchise. Let's recall that FF14 was negatively received, sold like shit and damaged the franchise so badly they had to make ARR to apologize.
>>332672648
He was a producer to FF8-FF10. That's still having a hand in the projects. Plus he was a writer in FF9
>>332666779
Just like real life?
>>332672534
it's a pre-order, you get charged when its close to releasing. but anyway, chances are its all sold out now so even if you try it's probably too late
>>332672564
>series in general
Fallout hasn't been a primarily PC series for like 18 years.
>amazon gets zidane daggers which even ultimate edition doesn't get
WHAT THE FUCK
>>332672534
Doesn't matter it's soldout. However, they haven't charged me yet
>>332672731
Ff13 didn't sell well each sequel was significantly lower
>>332672791
POO
>>332667307
>>332667474
>Final Fantasy
>not the normiest RPG franchise ever
>>332672678
To sell it others :^)
>>332672739
>>332672791
>>332672810
fuck me
I didn't pre-order because I don't have the money right now and I thought pre-ordering through square meant they charge you right away
>>332672741
If you think Fallout is that egregious of a comparison, find me another AAA game series, and then find a release that sold more on PC at launch than either console.
Witcher fucking 3 sold more on PS4 than PC. Twice more. I don't know what you want from this.
>>332672125
I can't even fathom how someone could be retarded enough to seriously argue the "2" at the end of the title doesn't indicate that it's a sequel but an inconsequential spin off.
Square Enix out of their fucking minds. That's like double the number I'd have expected they'd shoot for.
>>332672852
>>332672972
>6.2 million copies isn't 'selling well'
>FF13-2 and LR being spinoffs games
>FF13-2 selling 3.1 million like FF10-2 sold 3.4 million isn't good
Yeah, no. That's not how it works. Number titles are the big deal. Spinoff games like X-2 and XIII-2 are low budget and low marketed.
>>332664392
what was up with the kids voice acting in the demo? it sounded like the vo was ripped from something else.
>>332672774
>game gets Gae Bolg
>>332672943
because that would be pokemon
>>332672967
sorry to hear, man. yeah that's how it works for every online store i've ever pre-ordered something at. were you in the live thread when it went on sale? loads of people asked the same thing and we assured them it's okay to just order now
>>332664491
lmao what nigga?
the response from the Demo released is extremely negative
>>332672042
Kek.
I fell for Mighty No 9, I'm not falling for this, Squre Enix.
>>332672552
You aren't seriously comparing Final Fantasy to The Witcher, are you?
I don't even like the Final Fantasy games that much but I'm willing to acknowledge it's a much, much larger franchise than The Witcher, even now in it's death throes.
FFXV is almost guaranteed to outsell The Witcher 3.
>>332672971
Diablo
Battlefield
Unrelated fun fact, these series turned to shit uncoincidentally at the same time they went to consoles.
>>332673136
No I wasn't in that thread, I found out kinda late and was sleepy but I saw on their site when it was still available
But I remember trying to pre-order something not from Amazon and I was getting charged so I thought it would be like that again
Welp, waiting list time I guess
>>332673105
What the fuck? I really fucking want this being a major Cu Chulainnfag and FFXIV player. Is there any way to preorder from game internationally?
>>332673128
Pokemon is dying fast, besides the fact of being restricted to only Nintendo handheld systemsand it was never that popular in third world countries compared to FF.
>>332669650
except ff8 was only available for sale during the ps1 era and was not available for sale for sometime after that till recently.
but it will?
are you fucking kidding me OP it's final fantasy, the ultimate normie franchise. people I work with who NEVER play videogames have been talking about it. it will sell 10 million and probably more.
>>332673352
I expect all these weapons can be bought on the store once the game is out. otherwise the ultimate edition which was SE store exclusive would have the daggers and polearm.
COLLECTOR EDITION IS BACK IN STOCK ON THE SQUARE ENIX STORE THIS IS NOT A GRILL
>>332673179
Source?
>>332673452
PS2 could still play PS1 games. Plus PS1 games didn't stop selling until after the PS2 late year.
Plus PS3 allows for the PSN network to sell FF8 online.
>>332664392
Who enjoying the demo?!
>>332673305
Too scared to name the specific titles that actually released on console, since it shits on your argument?
The past *several* Battlefields sold a fuckton more on console. Diablo 3 was a late arrival.
Games sell more on consoles almost universally. Let it go. You're getting your FFXV port eventually, so I don't know why this is a point of contention for you.
>>332673340
Good luck on the waiting list, perhaps some folks will cancel and such but yeah don't give up, you never know it might pay off
>>332673105
>legendary lance from ff14
>implying square enix invented the gay bulge
Next they'll say Excalibur is from FF1.
>>332673598
t-thanks...
>>332665367
>implying bootleggers don't move pirated copies of popular console games for a gorillion dollars
>>332673454
The previous FF games in the past decade never got close to 10mil, famalam
>>332673481
This.And then the PC version will have all the DLC as standard, just like XIII-2 and LR did.
>>332673426
And yet, it likely outsells this without even trying.
So this game will be one of the most expensive games to develop next to MGSV, GTAV, TW3 and still suck ?
Also 10millions my ass, this will bomb hard
>>332673550
not for ps4, and at least not for the NA store
>tfw bought Prompto
>>332673558
>source
every single person who's played it on twitter, multiple "big" twitter and youtubers bashed the combat
literally look it up yourself you lazy nigger
>>332673765
that's because those games had terrible marketing and almost no hype pre-release.
this on the other hand, is going to be a juggernaut. it might very well be the best selling FF game ever made.
>>332673179
If you're talking about the new demo, no shit, it's not even indicative of the real game cause it's a completely seperate story and gameplay experience
If you're talking about the FF Type-0 demo then yeah it wasn't fantastic but they've also changed a bunch of shit after that
>>332673624
They aren't saying XIV invented Gae Bold you retarded anime girl, but that model is specifically the XIV version.
Don't be stupid.
>>332673904
>I'm talking out of my ass so I'll just send you on a hunt for something that doesn't exist respone
ok
>>332673569
Exactly they sold their original print run and then the ps1 "greatest hits" print run and went out of print till the digital sales came up.
They sell off inventory of old games and focus on the new games. To generate sales once more.
Thats why they extended ff13 for so long.. its cheaper to keep expanding the same game cause they prob reuse a shitton of game assets. But they sell a lot more copies.
>>332673934
>that's because those games had terrible marketing and almost no hype pre-release.
Are you shitting me?
Every FF games since 7 has had a massive advertising campaign and huge amounts of pre-release hype.
>>332665437
>30k copies sold out in less than a hour
Wow it's fucking nothing.
>We reset the hierarchy of the organization, because the person that serves as the section leader would be in the same position for decades, at times. When that happens, it’s a given that the power relations between staff will always be decided, you’ll have imitation of originals, and instead of having winning conditions as a team everyone ends up working to follow the personal standards of subjectivity and feelings of this said person. By resetting such unnecessary relations, we had a talk about “from here on, there is no top or bottom in this land of Shura!” [laughs]
So it was basically made into a merit system.
>Yes. I interviewed everyone at first and told them “if you want to stay or leave, it’s up to you to decide,” “if you do stay, then I’ll have you follow my reform,” and “no making excuses about this is how it was done before.” From there, we had talks on “show me what you can bring to the table,” and we made it clear what each team was capable of doing. On top of that, we had rearrangements going on—for example, “you have a good sense of balance so you’re the Preproduction Phase leader, okay?” and “you’ve been a leader up until now, and even though you can make things of high quality, you aren’t the best at negotiating and coordinating with other sections, so you’ll be the subordinate of this phase, okay?” There were so many disputes!
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/03/31/hajime-tabata-making-team-challenging-hd-era-final-fantasy-xv/#pLOuJ2iSVBjggfFL.99
>>332673179
>people are nostalgic for the duscae demo combat
>the same people who cried that it wasn't like the gameplay videos before that demo even came out
>>332673624
You're a dumb faggot
>>332673934
Cool. Are you an expert in things that have never happened before?
>>332665584
This means that 1/4th of PS4 players have to buy this for it to be a success. I have a PS4 and I'm not buying it because it looks retarded and I am their target audience, so this is going to be a flop.
>>332674115
nice revisionist history there :)
>>332674120
That's already $8 million
>>332666107
They still paid money for the game. Doesn't matter what they do with it.
Did Square missed the chance of being featured on the front page on Youtube? So many hacks started to upload the trailer that the original got sunked below 100k for more than 12 hours.
Say what you want but FFVII:Remake would of NEVER cracked over 10mil without being the top video on YT that day.
>>332673961
>lets release a demo for the new comers showcasing the ugly graphics and terrible gameplay
>btw this is all final
I'm sure the type 0 demo was good but this is a demo released for EVERYONE, and the best they could come up with was a dull game
>>332674197
are you? :)
>>332664392
>Final Fantasy
>expecting that many sales
Top kek good luck
>>332674216
You're a retard
>>332665437
America didn't get all 30k copies
>>332664491
This
FF sells always
>>332674264
And then need $592,000,000 more
RIP SE
>>332674336
I'm an expert in knowing FF is dogshit and when inflated sales projections equal disaster.
>>332664392
Battlefront is projected to sell 16 million copies by the end of 2016.
>People acting like 10 million is hard when FF7 sold 10 million in fucking 1997
>>332673904
When the man asks for a source you give it or you shut your faggot mouth, got it?
>>332674610
ok into the ignore ip list :)
Not even sure if shit like Fifa sells that much let alone some weeb game.
>>332674731
>filtering people
lel go back to tumblr you triggered baby
>>332674220
You must be well underage otherwise you would at least remember the huge hype and marketing for FFXIII. The problem with FFXIII was not that they forgot to market it, it's that the game didn't even come close to living up to the hype.
>>332674631
Video gaming is not the same as back then. It's becoming stagnate and tired. FF7 had years of actual hype, it was very innovative and full of gimmicks.
No one gives a fuck about FF GTA. Nothing about it looks fucking good.
>>332664615
>PC ver. at release could have helped quite a bit.
I didnt know they got money from pirates.
>>332674264
That doesn't even cover the cost of the voice actors present on stage at that stupid conference yesterday.
>>332674816
sorry can't hear you from my safe space
>>332664392
square thinks its going to outsell black ops 3 and hell even FF7? http://www.vgchartz.com/game/85359/call-of-duty-black-ops-3/
>>332674383
Expert argumentative skills there.
>>332674559
They'll still drain all the money from people playing FFXIV and the cash shop in that game to stay afloat.
no wonder FF7 is going episodic
Why does Square Enix have these huge unrealistic expectations?
>>332674775
10 million is fucking nothing in 2016
And it's not like they're expecting 10 million in a week
If shit like the Division can be sitting at 2 million copies after only about 2 weeks than FF15 will be fine
>>332675035
he says it has to, not that it will.
>Final Fantasy XV: Grandu Tourismo flops
>Square Enix folds
>No more pantsu simulators shitting up the vidya landscape
100 % positive result
>>332675035
They want to be one of the big boys like the white gods.
They sold 30,000 Collector's Editions at $300 in less than an hour. I'm sure they'll be fine in the long run.
There's dozens of other, worse games that have hit over 10 million
It's not even that hard
>wasting money on a car and movie
Fucking retards. Could've made more collector's editions with that money.
>>332664392
With the amount of marketing and hype around it, it will sell way more.
>>332674923
>vgchartz
Hey hows 2012 mate ?
>>332675256
I own a PS4 but I won't even play the game unless it's on PC.
I'm at a point to where if a game isn't 10/10 I won't turn on my console to play it.
>>332675268
There are not that many games that have sold over 10 million copies at all.
so square expects 15 to do as well as fallout?
http://www.ibtimes.com/fallout-4-sales-record-breaking-12-million-copies-worth-750-million-sold-launch-2183997
>>332664392
So this will be the game that finally kills SE.
>>332675103
No, 10 million is still a huge amount of sales, even today. You are talking about almost making it onto the "best selling games of all time" list.
>If shit like the Division can be sitting at 2 million copies after only about 2 weeks
It's worth noting that The Division is record breaking sales for Ubisoft, not business as usual. And even with that The Division is still probably not going to sell 10 million copies.
>>332671294
Same anon. I do hope though that Square eventually sells the Noctis figure on it's own though. One of my friends couldn't afford this, but wants the Noctis figure.
>>332675440
Ok.
>>332675268
10 mil is phenomenon tier
its true everything in the world is getting bigger but thats still a shit load.
>>332664392
I think it will do well considering it's an ARPG.
>>332671937
It says to succeed, not to break even.
They need 10 million units sold to hit the projected profit margin. And who knows what is the percentage over the costs we are talking about here?
Still, this is not something we should concern ourselves over,
You'd have to pretty deluded to think 10m is easy to reach. For this shit, you'd have to spend even more on marketing than say whatever the fuck Western AAA shit.
>>332675163
Please, not again, just don't turn FFXV into another "Tortanic". The first one already damaged /v/ beyond repair.
So, is Sean Bean gonna be Regis in the game too or just Kingsglaive?
>>332675680
It broke the record for a new IP release.
And Final Fantasy is already a well established IP with millions of fans worldwide.
With the marketing, the free prequel movie and the free prequel anime, hitting those numbers should be pretty easy.
>>332675682
i know some are saying PAK figures are shit, but the photos shown of Noctis and Crew at the event looks pretty good. I kinda wish they had offered different figures for the CE, I'm more of a Gladio fan
>>332675893
Kingsglaive
If they announce a pc version AND the wait is less than 5 months after initial release (to build it properly) AND is not a console port i will buy it for PC if Yes is the result to any of those conditions i will not buy a console for it, will not buy it for said console, and WILL pirate it for pc.
Companies need to learn most pc gamers will not tolerate console ports.
>>332675893
they just tweeted this morning that Lena and Sean won't be doing the voices for the game, just for the movie
>>332675621
>12 million copies sold for that crappy game
Oh man western AAA games truly are the worst thing to ever happen to gaming
It doesnt even run 30fps !
>>332675893
No one who is a voice in the movie is a voice in the game, it's kinda stupid but expected.
I'm not sure if the movie will have japanese voices which would probably use the japanese game voice actors.
>>332675963
Don't count on it, they said they will only consider a PC version AFTER the console one is released, and then it would take a long time to be released, unless you want a rushed and lazy port.
>>332676002
This is what /v/ wants to happen, not the reality.
>>332675256
>that pic
APRIL FOOLS
>>332675963
April Fools :^)
>>332676070
that pretty much shows the target audience for these consoles
>>332675952
The anime isn't a prequel, it takes place during FFXV.
>>332676239
It's still the 31st but EN twitter still has to go through the JP one to post anything right?
>>332676370
The first episode is, but it flashes back to their childhood.
>>332664392
reminder that FFXIII is to this day the best selling FF game in japan, but not because they actually liked it. it's cuz it was practically a launch title for ps3. it sold insanely well and then sales plummeted to the point where stores would no longer take returns on used copies, because so many people returned it complaining
and that was JUST japan
>>332676370
Nor is the movie, I guess I called them prequels because they are being released before the game.
Anime will consist of five, 12 minute long, OVA chapters. I watched the first one already and it was OK.
>>332675256
>DX11
The fuck? The PS4 doesn't use DX11, and I'm sure the Xbox One version didn't use it either. Consoles have their own APIs for a reason.
>no Gentiana
why is this allowed. Think she'll show up in the anime and in Kingsglaive at least?
>>332665820
kek
>buying a Final Fantasy game
>after XIII, XIII-2 and LR
>this gay of a cast
>this shitty combat
lol
>>332676070
but this won't run anywhere near a smooth 30fps either from what we've seen
that 12 million number includes day 1 pc copies which this game won't have
you also have to consider that fallout 4 is much, much more accessible than XV
the majority of the people that bought it thought it was great because they're casuals and simply have lower standards than we do
face it, this is an eastern made game and is not going to appeal to the west aka the larger demographic anywhere near as much as fallout 4 did
I mean just look at the main characters, I guarantee some people are going to dismiss it because they look ultra faggy by western standards
>>332677163
13-2 was decent and LR was good
>>332676816
They removed her.
>>332676726
It says DX11 generation, and consoles implement most of the features.
They will probably stick a FF7R demo with the game and everyone who bought the PS4 version will have a chance to play it.
>>332676816
Because Genitalia is too pure for this mess.
>>332677306
DELETE THIS
>>332677378
good point, but i still want to see my himecut waifu before the game is released.
>>332665363
you're retarded for two reasons. you're not taking into account japan, where it's much more popular than here. secondly, normies do like it, what rock have you been living under?
>>332664491
そうだ
What the fuck is this "sou da ne" shit? Are we fucking reddit now? Besides, 4chan tells me it's spam when I try doing it.
>>332677378
>they decided to cut Genitalia's hair
>>332676726
Actually for a while the xbox one was using the direct x 11 api with some early features of direct x 12,it was basically running under a very heavily modified windows 8 kernal at the launch,now its using a modified version of windows 10 running a low-med level 12 api that relies heavily on the ESRAM.
>You will never have 4 bros who would stand by you through thick and thing during your adventure
>>332676726
Luminous engine uses DX11 for implementation of many stuff, but it is all translated to OpenGL API when compiled to consoles uses.
>>332675256
If this image is true we may see Final Fantasy XV running only in DX12, wich Luminous Engine is alreadly capable of running it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP_l19eFqRQ
>>332664491
this
>>332677617
April fools ya dumb dumb
>>332677747
>I will never be as much of a homo emo boyband member as Noctis
feels great
>>332677708
That's just a random NPC.
You can help them out along the road, take them places for EXP.
>>332665363
>>332665363
Final Fantasy is THE normie JRPG franchise (if you don't count pokemon for some reason)
>>332664392
I'm sure it would probably be an alright game to play but the party members are such a put off for me. I want to be medieval knights and wizards not fall out boy. It can be like from ff1 with the nameless party and they get teleported to that timeline for some paradoxical reasons and have to show fuckers how it's done.
>>332676237
>not the reality.
You are right. The reality will be much harsher.
>>332673179
>using /v/ to evaluate real feedback
13 sold 7 mil units across xbox and playstation, just selling on ps4 about 1 in every 3 owners would have to buy ff15, that won't happen.
6 mil PS4
1 mil Xbone
It will make bank in dlc
>>332673624
>implying square enix invented Arabian folk religion
Next they'll say Bahamut is from FF1
the combat in this game is so shit it's like spitting in the face of all true FF fans
>>332678703
This Nigga gets it
>>332678703
if they offer dlc clothes and shit, i'm ashamed to admit i'll be getting those.especially if they can be used for non-permanent members like Cor and such.
>>332675163
>Square kills itself with Spirits Within
>Dragon Quest bigshots Enix bails them out, merges.
>Square side kills itself again with FFXV
>Takes Enix side with it
>No more Dragon Quest
I hope FFXV is great and sells what it needs to.
Just tried the demo again.
>Broadsword Aircombo
>into Air Shuriken
>into warp to building
>into Greatsword Warp Strike from high up on building
>Greatsword attack- pause- Greatsword attack HOLD (activates Charge Attack)
>Charge up and unlease the damage!
>then cancel that charge attack into tempest (hold stick away from opponent and attack with greatsword while locked on)
>magic aim Fireball(cancels tempest animation)
>fireball Throw
Shit can get pretty crazy.
I missed the new weapons on my first playthrough.
