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http://gematsu.com/2016/03/rumor-ps4-5-twice-powerful-gpu-deep-down-god-war-4-among-launch-titles

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
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>>332629319
Because it's okay when Nintendo does it!
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Absolutely worth if deep down will get a little better towards its initial reveal.
It was the only game that looked interesting and the only reason I would buy a gaystation4(.5)
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>>332629475
This it looks like jolly co-op: the game.
That is if they do it right, at least.
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So which PS4 game is going to be the first Hyrule Warriors Legends?
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I didn't get a PS4 yet.

But I may be getting this, depends on what the NX is like.
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Didnt god of war get the psp cpu unlocked or something
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>>332629556
Same. Hopefully this will raise the performance in No Man's Sky too.
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>>332629393
>Nintendo does it!

this just occurred to me. between ps4.5 and VR they are royally fucked whatever they do.
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I seriously hope there aren't people who believe this is a thing.
At most the refresh model will have support for UHD bluray/HDMI 2.0. AMD don't have such a chip that would be "twice as powerful" and they can't just magic one out of thin air.
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>>332629319
I love /v/ outrage culture
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So if they make a stronger ps4 does that mean some preexisting games will run better?
Like how mh4u runs better on a n3ds than it does on a regular 3ds
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>>332629761
Literally read the article
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Because Nintendo made it acceptable.
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>>332629319
>twice as powerful gpu
>for 4K
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>>332629319
Because sonyggers will buy it.
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Daily dose of stupid rumors as facts.
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>>332629902
I'll buy it just to piss /v/ off
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If this came in 2018 I would be fine but late 2016. early 2017 is too soon.
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Congrats on outdated console after a year and the one game it has. I'm not even trolling. I just feel bad for Sonybros.
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>>332629942
Just give me your money instead sonygger.
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>>332630079
You're pretty good at begging for handouts arent you PC fat
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>new ps4 with a new gpu
>cpu is the actual hard bottleneck

gg

enjoy your 4k with 22 fps
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O N E G A M E
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Should have launched it as an ad-on for the console
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>>332629319
I know right. First time ever that early adopters get fucked
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>>332629319
Supercharged PC
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>rumor

Its a shitty practice though, Sony typically doesn't do this with their consoles but if deep down and new GOW are launch titles and the thing has backwards compatability with ps4 then I'll get it.

I go where the games are.
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If it has reverse compatibility, I will buy it.
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I'll believe it when I see a official announcement. Ramping up the GPU for a PS4.5 alone would be fucking expensive, and let alone alienating all the PS4 buyers who already spent there money, Sony would be idiots to create a more powerful version. Nintendo can get away with it because it's handheld, price wasn't a massive increase between versions.
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>>332629863
That fucking face when Nintendo starts doing DLC and shit like amiibo because other more shitty companies made it acceptable.
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>>332629691
>AMD don't have such a chip that would be "twice as powerful" and they can't just magic one out of thin air.
what is polaris
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>>332630195
I don't think you know how technology works.
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Greatness AWAITS
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HAHAHA
All the retard that bought PS4 HAHAHA
>tfw I've bought xbone
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>>332630583
A 400$ card.
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>>332630536
It's a great cyclical system of shit.
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> Sonyponies on GAF expect console iterations every 2 years will eliminate the lack of backwards compatibility
Top lmao. Sony will be selling you those PS4 games as a digital download in 3 years when the PS5 comes out.
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I wish there was a faster version of every console that came out at the end of another one's life cycle that could play all the older games without the performance problems the devs thought were acceptable and could be a platform for new exclusive games with shit performance.
But then i guess I'm just asking for some decent backwards compatibility, and that's crazy.
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How the fuck do these console games run if a CPU and GPU upgrade doesn't translate directly into a performance upgrade without game-specific patches?
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>>332629537
I hope. I just want the legendary coop times from ps1-ps2 back.
Nothing beats champions of norrath and similiar games tho. Coop was so much fucking fun it should have been illegal
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So what's Microsoft going to do with the XBone by the end of the year?
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>>332631341
XBone 2.
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>>332629319
PS4 adopters on suicide watch.
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>>332629547
Dynasty Warriors...?
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>Haven't bought a PS4 yet
>Now can get a superior version
Feels good man
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>>332631341
If Microsoft were smart, they would just fuck off from the console market and go completely on PC
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>literally
>dicking over 35 million customers

bravo sony
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>>332629319
> sonycucks literally being cucked

Just upgrade you fucking faggots!
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>>332631467
Who's insulting who here? No one will ever remember how beastly Warhawk capture the flag was ;_;
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>>332631467
> warhawk

What that game ever relevant?
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>>332631603
I think it was that and... Lair? That really shitty motion control dragon riding game.

The PS3 release was absolutely BARREN.
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>>332629319
PRESS F for another God of war
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>there are early adopters on /v/
Every single console always gets better or possibly cheaper versions later on, and by that point you might even have more than one worthwhile exclusive to play.
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Lol this thing aint' going to play games at 3840×2160.
When they talk about it playing "4K" content they mean UHD blu-ray movies, which just launched this year:
http://www.blu-ray.com/4k/
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>>332629319
>twice as powerful GPU
>4K
The PS4 barely runs games at 30 fps at 900/1080p.
So they're saying games will run at 15 fps in 4K?
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>rumor
That tells you all you need to know, for fuck's sake.
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>>332631737
http://wccftech.com/amd-shows-off-freesync-over-hdmi-concept/

PS4.1 will probably be capable of this too.
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>>332630720
I BOUGHT BOTH
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Will ps4 kiddies and ps4k kiddies shitpost against each other in the same vein that ps4 and pc shitpost against each other currently once this launches? I kinda already see it some in this thread.
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>>332629902
>it's okay when nintendo does it
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>>332631737
>deceptively name a VIDEO GAME on a movie playing function
Is this allowed?
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>>332629319
its allowed cause sony know they fucked up and they know the PS4 as it is is nowhere near powerful enough for the future of gaming especially with VR now.

I hope they at least let current PS4 owners to trade their consoles in and get a substantial discount off the PS4.5
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>>332631943
Of course, why wouldn't it be?
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PS4 IS NOW A LEGACY SYSTEM
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>>332631698
To be fair, both the PS3 and Vita got worse iterations past the launch models.
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>>332630494
Yeah right

>mfw PS4Keks will NEVER EVER play bloodborne
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>>332631943
>buy game that has "4K" and "UHD" written all over the box.
>cutscenes are 4K.
>game runs at 900p.
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>>332631963
Literally the only reason for this is VR

I fucking called this shit in every VR thread and you retards ignored me as just some supposed autistic PC master race shitposter

God damn everyone is stupid
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>>332631963
>PS4 as it is is nowhere near powerful enough for the future of gaming especially with VR now
Delusion: the post.
PS2 was underpowered as fuck but it was enough to span the best most vivid and diverse library of games and last 6 years without upgrades. VR is a fucking gimmick.
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>>332632116
Is VR the most expensive meme of our time?
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I want a ps4 for uncharted but I already have a gaymin pc so I'm not gonna wait for it
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>>332632146
we all pay a price to meme.
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=199735534&postcount=6123

>It's literally just a second 7850 GPU in SLI config

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>332629657
Not if it plays at 4k lol
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Good... I'll just give out my ps4 to my sister so we can play online games together....
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>>332632210
>>>/tv/
Keep your shitty black twitter memes quarantined
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>>332632083
>There's going to be console wars between PS4 owners and PS4.5 owners

kek
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>>332629873
Get ready for another generation of games not even hitting 30fps
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It takes like 3-4 years to push a game out the door these days. Sometimes even more for the really massive titles [like FFXV]. Why someone would look at rising development costs, extended development time, and a shrinking user base and conclude that SHORTER console generations is the solution is beyond me.
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what if they just add another chip and run them in crossfire? that would make it "twice" as powerful as it was..
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>>332632210
YES

SLI OPTIMIZATION OUT THE ASS HERE WE COME

PC MASTER RACE
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>>332632336
And if they start to push the 4k meme with better graphics, games will take even longer to develop.

Shitty times ahead for console users.
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Those $1000 PCs sure sound like a waste of money compared to the 2-year console
>generations
don't they?

also,
>Current games will not receive any performance upgrades by being played on the newer system.
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>>332632125
That was a different time and era, anon. EA used to be a great studio, now they're the cancer of the industry.
Sony's going the same road by cucking sonyfriends with this shite. Worst thing is they'll fall for it too.
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>>332630039
It's been 2 and a half years since the PS4 was released. Doesn't make this any less of a kick to the balls.
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>>332632392
4k requires four times the power as 1080p unless you want to get half the framerate

I can't see how these games won't run at 15 fps unless none of them are remakes and are all just new games with half as good graphics but twice the resolution

Lol literally what in the fuck is Sony doing?
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>>332632336
Because fuck users, fuck devs and publishers fuck everyone making money on hardware feels so good, let's fuck the customer over one more time, we're Apple now! Surely pubs devs and users won't run away to more stable and promising platform just like they did it when they abandoned SEGA and Nintendo in favor of Playstation 1.
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PC gamers:
>Hey man, don't buy a PS4. It's outdated hardware that doesn't perform well

Sonyggers:
>No it's not! it's the best hardware ever! 30fps is better than 60fps, long loading times are to give you time to go to the bathroom before playing, Sony can do no wrong!

Sony:
>Hey guise, PS4 is outdated hardware that doesn't perform well, come buy this new 4.5 version!

Idiots are going to end up buying two versions of the same console (one slightly better). Money that they could've used to build a seriously awesome gaming rig from the start if only they didn't have their head up their own ass and just listened to logic and reason.
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>>332632603
>twice the resolution

*four times
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>>332632292

Console wars never happened. Graphics and frame-rates are just memes. Nobody cares about memes.
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>>332632573
Bloodborne was released March 24, 2015. Which is almost exactly one year.
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>>332632083
>>332632292
>sub 4k
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>>332631485

Keep wishing this sonycuck

I can literally smell your fear
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Is it the time to buy a used ps4 now?
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>>332632603
They are just going to upscale the games, they won't be actively rendering them in 4k. They'll sure market the system as a 4k box, though. They'll get people to upgrade with promises of 60fps vs 30fps [more like 24] on the regular -- until we get a year and a half into the PS4.5's and the cycle begins again. Time is a flat circle.
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>>332632675
On the bright side, they will be able to say they have a console that is more powerful than my 5 year old laptop.
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>>332632675
>>332632738

>Called PS4K
>Games don't actually get 4K
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>>332632546
EA is not a studio.
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>>332629319
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT SHITTY ASS GRAPHICS!!!!
The PS4 is already as powerful as you will ever need a console to be! I would argue the PS3 was fine too.
There is BARELY a difference unless your a faggot that overanalyzes screenshots that won't be noticeable in actual gameplay
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I hope current PS4 consoles get an add on, so we can call it the 64kDD
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>>332632928
6/10 the animu gif is a nice touch.
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>>332632813
If they are going to do 4K games with only twice the graphics power, that means devs will have to make games with graphics that are literally twice as bad

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>332632895

EA is a studio. Like Nintendo, they are a publisher that also have several studios that go under their banner.

>>332632546
>Worst thing is they'll fall for it too.
They are already pre-ordering PSVR despite it being vastly inferior product by every metric while also ignoring Sony's track record with gimmicks.
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>>332632928
Meh the shitstorm is more about how all current PS4 owners are getting cucked. Because if this is true and this new one is stronger, no amount of lying by Sony will convince anyone that new games will run fine one the old PS4. Just look at the 3DS VS N3DS, try to play Hyrule Warriors on both of em.
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>>332632312
we are talking about 5 fps
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>>332632876
4K GAMES NEVER EVER SONYKEKS
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>>332633073

It's ok to get the new one because then you don't need to upgrade anymore after that. It's a all-in-one package. Just buy it and stay comfy.
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>>332632876
They'll fall for it too, the same way they fell for "Nextgen!" when it was actually parts from the turn of the century that you mainly just find in old PCs rotting in landfills
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Give it PS3 compatibility and I'm fucking sold.
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>>332632039
Fat PS3 had some pretty bad overheating issues.
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>>332633075
No seriously, either games will have to have graphics that are half as bad as what we have now to render in 4K or they will be at half the framerate, meaning 15fps, or will only be in 2k

In the case of call of duty they'd have to choose between having half as good graphics or framerate, and the current framerate it gets on consoles is the whole reason everyone loves COD

what the fuck man
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>>332633215
Thats not happening. Definitive editions sell like hotcakes.
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Remember when PSfaggots said Deep Down could run on PS4 with those trailer graphics kek
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>>332633215
Why would Sony do it?
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>PS4 is like PC!
>except more expensive, gets replaced every 3 years rather than 10, has pay to use your own online, less games, less reliable everything and has hardly any exclusives
Jeez, I remember how much of a fanboy I was over the PS2 and now, this. Christ have they fallen.
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>>332633269
No I'm positive you're making things up in your head to make the big bad Sony boogyman look bad.
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>>332633215
Oh this is it. Itl do PS3 games at 4K. That's the only way it can do four times the resolution with only twice the power without having framerates halved

Ahahaha holy fuck
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>>332633351
Fuck I mean not PS3 compatability but remakes
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>>332633162
Do you really believe that? I'm asking legitimately because I don't have a PS4 yet. I was waiting for games and with FFXV and Persona 5 nearing that time has almost come. So for me personally this is great if there isn't going to be another version after this, but I don't really trust Sony. Maybe I'm overthinking it, I just don't want to get cucked.
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>>332629319
Because people will buy it. Consumers are the ones who enable the cancer to grow.
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>>332633226
Why would they do that? 90% PS4 games are older gen remakes. If they make it retrocompatible they will have nothing to sell.
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It's not allowed. No fucking way.
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>>332633317
The hard truth is that the only thing that Sony accomplished on PS2 -- outside of a few first party gems like SotC -- is being the best selling console that got most of the games. If Dreamcast or Gamecube had sold 100+ million units we'd have the same opinions of them.
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>>332633421
I would definitely wait before buying a PS4.

And if you are interested in P5 just buy a PS3.
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>>332633504
Unlikely, PS2 had a far better game selection over the Dreamcast and Gamecube. Its why it sold so well in the first place.
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I'll seriously never buy a console again if this gets exclusive games. I'll just go without. I only bought a PS4 two weeks ago and this would essentially be a PS5 if it has exclusives.
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>>332633504
That didn't happen by luck.
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>If Neogaf said it, it must be true!
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>>332633547
Wew lad, the ps2 might have had a good library but it sold because it was a cheap DVD player.
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>>332629691
>>332630583
>>332630740

you guys are dumb, it takes no effort to glue 2 gpus to a board and assign certain tasks to each one.its been done with no issues in every hardware generation, they just dont tell people when they do it.ibm is infamous for it .

that being said, it should have been done on the ps4, they needed to have 2 separate pixel shader processors and a separate gpu, not an apu. if they did that, bam 4k no issues at 45 fps. that would have uped the ps4 price tag by 30 bucks, they went full retard.
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How would the market react to a console generation lasting only 3-4 years?
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>>332632928
I want to see that loli get blacked
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>>332633635
This.

The fact that the PS2 was also a dvd player helped a lot with the sales.
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>>332633635
>Wew lad, the ps2 might have had a good library
Which is why it sold well

Thanks for finally understanding
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>>332633639
Judging from the reaction from this PS4K, they will bend over backwards for it. All the console developers will start shitting out new consoles sooner and sooner while people buy them up

Hopefully this leads to a new crash.
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>>332633724
Damage control
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>>332633780
agreed
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>>332633690
No it's library was the second reason for its popularity but the fact that it was a DVD player that you could get for cheaper than regular DVD players is why it sold so much
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>>332633724
Literally no one is defending it though you cuck
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>FF15 out this year
>new PS4 out next year
>and with a retarded price to boot
I knew they'd bring out a 2nd version of the PS4 because holy fuck, they did it with the PS2, PS3 and the PSP. You'd have to be delusional to think they wouldn't pull that shit again.
Now I'm going to have to wait for the new PS4 to come out before I can play FF15, fuck.
At least Deep Down is still in development, I heard it was cancelled.
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>>332633819
No it wasnt, stop with the revisionist history.
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>>332633595
No, it didn't happen by luck. It was a holdover from their success the previous generation, where their direct competitors made grievous errors. Adding in a dvd player and it was a one-stop console.

I'm just saying that if the sales numbers had been different, it would have been some other platform that got all those great games [or at least ports].
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>>332629319
I'll get this if you can turn off 4k to get 1080p 60fps. I guess 4k is more marketable to casuals since they don't know what FPS is and don't care about games dropping to below 30fps. Quality control really goes out of the window the more inclusive something becomes.
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>>332633547
>Gamecube library

It's sad that it didn't do so well when it had like one of the strongest libraries ever.
>ssbm
>ww
>Metroid Prime
>RE4 (best version)
>Super Mario Sunshine
>Pikmin 1 & 2
>F Zero GX
>Pokemon Colosseum
>Zelda Twilight Princess
and even 3rd party gems like Viewtiful Joe and stuff.
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>>332633819
It was a DVD player because Sony was clever enough to use a better media format, just like they did with Playstation when Nintendo dinosaurs chose cartidges.
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>>332633819
>No it's library was the second reason for its popularity but the fact that it was a DVD player that you could get for cheaper than regular DVD players
That never happened cuck, the PS2 sold because of its library
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>>332633857
But to be fair, the PS2 and PS3 slim weren't strictly speaking improvements over their predecessors. In fact, I'd argue that they were almost entirely cost cutting. Fair point on the PSP though.
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>>332629319
And why do they care about NeoGAF? Fuck NeoGAF, fuck those crybullies up the ass.
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>>332629319
sad
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>>332631460
I think you missed his point, anon.
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>>332633884
>It was a holdover from their success the previous generation, where their direct competitors made grievous errors. Adding in a dvd player and it was a one-stop console.
That I can agree with.
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The PS2 sold a lot because the first playstation became incredibly popular.
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>>332632210

>SLI
>AMD Hardware

Ya blew it
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>Was going to wait for the end of the console generation before getting the PS4
>Wanted to play Bloodborne before DaSIII, caved in and bought a PS4
Well fuck me... early adopters always getting screwed as usual. I'll be doubly sure to never buy a console this early again.
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>>332630740
No actually it is an entire gpu architecture on a 14nm finfet process. Less power requirements, moar performance.
>>332633636
Yeah man multugpu is so fucking easy worked. Wonders for years on PC!
I have no idea why you need another card for "pixel shading units" either. Also id like to point out. At the time amds best Gpu was a 290x and they were still on 22nn bare im mind Even with console tier optimization that could never hit 4k 45fps. By anywhere near close. Nor would any amd 22nn chip to that scale reach anywhere near target heat output/power consumption. And it most certainly would increase bomb cost by much more than $30 hell power requirements alone would break $30
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Are we going to have to wait for E3 for Sony to clarify this what this PS4K is going to be?
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>>332633925
I don't remember those that well anymore. Were they both cheaper than the PS2 and 3?
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>people getting mad that there seems to be an upgraded console that allows them to keep their game library
>not even out yet
>early adopters had several years to play with the normal version and can sell it if they want to upgrade
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>>332629319
Why don't they just release an add-on to attach in one of the holes in the back instead of releasing a new Console? cause this is pretty much ps5 without 5 in it
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>>332634018
Maybe.

I still thing they will only talk about it at their PSX conference.
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>>332634024
>being this much of a cuck
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>>332629547
Drakengard since they already copied the red trolls with swords and blue knights
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>>332629547
Final Fantasy XV.

seriously,the framerate is fucking disaster. i played both demo and i dont think it ever stay at 30fps more than 1min.

PS4k is best way to FFXV (if it's not coming to pc)
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>>332629319
>bought a ps4 2 months ago
fug
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>>332632210
>SLI
>ps4 has an APU
>AMD

so much memeing in one post. How the internet copes will blow your mind.
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>>332634082
>Putting hardware like that in a USB port
That'd be slow as fuck senpai.
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>>332631870
I hope so, I was really hoping consoles would start supporting freesync. Make freesync displays even more common and force nvidia to finally support it.
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Thanks for beta testing a console, PS4cucks
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It's ok because you will be able to trade in your old PS4 for 70-90% off and get a memory transfer

Based Sony
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>>332633997
>decided to wait instead of buying a system for one game
>tfw its paying off
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It's a VR console that can run it in 4k, chill.
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>>332634082

We don't need no Sega CDs and 32Xs, not anymore.
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>>332634007
breh your polite anon , you have separate pixel shadeing units,
pixel shaders play the primary role in computing as higher resolutions are involved. the gt 9800 , for example, had an entire processor peice devoted to it, and in was cash for 4 gens striat, now all gpus are like that.

want higher res and smoother frames? you need to devote proccessing room to pixel shadeing units!

im a digital hardware major
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>>332634409
So you'll play bloodborne at 30 fps anon I'll play at Stable 30 fps on the new and amazing ps4k
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>>332634007
>>332634550
this nigga correct anon,
the shader core on amd gpus is a pixel shader specific gpu . this anon knows his shit.
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>URL has "rumour" in it
>/v/ immediatly accepts it as fact

You people are fucking idiots
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>>332631493
It's 40 million now
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I didn't buy a PS4 yet, and I thought the specs of the machine were always shitty. I am happy if the rumours are true and the PS4 is getting an upgrade, especially if old games perform better too.
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haha looks like its finally time to pick up this console

thanks for beta testing the shit hardware nerds
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>>332634738
>>332634778

this
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>>332629319
Old ps4s will have the same games with standard graphics.
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>>332634550
Sorry misread you. When i read you said Gpu for whatever reason i was thinking the card as a whole not literally just the GPU (i also realise now consoles are all intergrated, not running pcie expansion cards) though you mean seperate units like some sort of OG physX card for pixel shading. Rest of the post was still retarded though.
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>>332630171
between this and SF V, I would have expected some body to create some new shocking interview videos.
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The amount of salt over this is delicious! On all forums. If you just bought a Ps4 its understandable, but launch getting mad about a potential upgrade 3 years after initial release is hilarious
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>>332634778
Have fun upgrading next year.
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There is literally nothing wrong with this so long as games are optimized for vanilla PS4 aswell. If anything it lengthens the PS4 life cycle.

Stay reactionary, /v/.
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Really don't get why people get so riled up, it most likely wont support 4K GAMING as barely 2x 980TI does it good.
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>>332634778
>Implying you won't be cucked by the playstation 4.5.5 released a year after 4.5
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>>332634897
are you even listening to yourself you salty faggot
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>>332634645
I fully expect this. Sony love fucking their customers. Like these shit controller gimmicks which make the fucker double in price and are just shit.

I think I'm too poor for games now. If I have to buy new hardware more often than every 5 years, then I won't at all. Most of the games are shit these days too.
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Its a free market. Its ok that is how healthy capitalism works.

you want communism back?
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>>332634901
>so long as games are optimized for vanilla PS4 aswell
Because that will totally happen

Either the new one has a clear better experience or it doesn't. If it doesn't, then the new console is pointless which Sony won't tolerate.
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>>332634082
why don't they just release a modular console with a CPU socket and PCIE slot?
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>>332629319
Because fuck you, that's way. Fuckin their own userbase in the ass. Bye bye sony.
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>>332634883
nah man, go on digi key, parts are cheap, if had the hardware(soder scope tables are pricy as fuck) i would make my own gpu, kelpers are 40 bucks atm, and require a scope to hard soder.
stop being a know it all, your dumb.
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you could have just saved your money and bought a 980Ti for the price of "upgrading" to the new PS4K.

man fuck this industry.
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>>332634257
Where the fuck else do you plug in a GPU?
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>no trade-in system in place
unless it's a significant upgrade, and it won't be, a trade in system is the only way I'd take the leap.
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>>332635014
>Because that will totally happen
Why wouldn't it? The architecture is identical. You can show off the new console without gimping the previous version. Any optimization done on PS4K will be applicable on vanilla version aswell. It's not a PS3-PS4 scenario.
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>>332634901
You're hot.
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>>332635076
Quality shitpost.
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>>332635152
The 980ti costs over $1000.
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>>332634901
>so long as games are optimized for vanilla PS4
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>>332635243
Its 550 dollars here. I live in the US. You're just a fucking idiot.
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>>332634428
What exactly is it going to run in four times the resolution if it only has twice the power?

It has to be either old games, new games with half as much graphics as what we're used to, or they'll have half the framerate

Lol
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>>332635175
Why would any store accept some used PS4 in exchange for a new one?
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hej
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Is everyone here forgetting that microsoft press conference where they discussed how the xbox should have the same iterative life span of mobile phones? Sony may be jumping the gun a little, but both are going to go this way.
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>>332635256
It's the same architecture. Anything that's optimized for PS4K will trickle down on PS4 and vice versa.
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>>332629319
Now I have an excuse to shell out 400 buckoldos for a new gpu kek
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>>332633317
Nothing windows based lasts 10years
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>>332635075
>>332633568
>>332633490
>>332631493
salty early adopter cucks

don't pretend like you weren't warned way before the launch of these consoles to not buy them because there would be a better version later on.
It's going to happen to the Xbone too.
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>>332635372
For the last time, sonyggers, it's not okay when Nintendo or Microsoft do it. Please stop bringing it up.
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A console should last 4 years before a replacement is released. Ps3 was an anomaly.
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>>332635372
and that would spell the end of the console business for them.

unless consumers are dumber than we thought.

I aint buying that shit. I'm just done with consoles. I'll stick with the PC for aas long as possible. until MS screws that up too.
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>>332635313
That's more than an entire PS4. You'd have to be insane to buy that. Assuming you build the rest of your PC to not be bottlenecked and include things like a good monitor, m&kb, speakers and gaming chair, you're looking at $5000. All for a rig that will be outdated in 3 years because of Moore's law.
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>>332635504
jokes on you

i don't even own a PS4, nor do i have any intentions

paid online is a fucking scam
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>>332629319
>launch title
WHAT FUCKING YEAR IS THIS
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>>332635560
So you're just here to bait?
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>>332629319
>tfw PS9 will be PS4.999
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>>332635556
thats less than the 2 ps4's people gullible enough to get roped into buying.
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If it weren't for Nintendo abandoning Wii U and making NX this wouldn't happen.Competitors following suit.
THANKS NINTY
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>>332635556
>a gaming chair
Literally what?
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Nintengaf is really milking this well even though Nintendo is the one who popularized and fathered this business model, People also don't seem to notice this actually AMD trying recoup their R&D for Polaris early since they can no longer rely on their next graphics card or CPU line up to sustain their company due to tougher competitions in the desktop market.
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>>332629863
wii 2006
wii u 2012

ps4 2013
ps4 2.0 2016(?)

nigga, dont be dumb
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@332635651
>being retarded
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>>332635483
for you maybe. need that mew shiny piece of crack every year right?
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>>332634901
>If anything it lengthens the PS4 life cycle.
Right, just like what happens when Nvidia releases a new graphics card, it lengthens the life cycle of the old ones!
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>>332635357
because they can sell the used one at a total profit, or sometimes they can get subsidies from the parent company looking to push out the newer hardware aggressively.

>>332635526
I don't think it's ok either way, I'm just saying it's already happening all over the place

>>332635651
Nintendo's jumping ship cause the wii u is an abysmal failure sales wise. I don't think sony actually cares what nintendo is up to with their console as there's no talk of the nx being more powerful than the ps4, all I've heard is possibly on par with the xbox one. Of course, if the wireless hdmi rumors are true, sony may end up burping out another update to steal awesome technology, like the whole move thing.
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>>332635556
>That's more than an entire PS4.

it also easily outperforms an entire ps4.
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>>332635504
>3 almost 4yrs
>EARLY ADOPTER FAGGOT
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>>332634901
>reactionary
Yes, us being upset that SONY is removing the main reason to buy a console is just us being reactionaries

The PS4 will be left with a couple of good exclusives and nothing but gimped ports from the PS4.5
Have fun paying 400$ every 3 years for something that's not even a full PC
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This is a very, very tough lesson for people to learn, but it's a good one. Sony isn't PS2-era Sony anymore. You can't just buy in day one and be comfortable knowing you're going to get a ton of great games.

Do not even think about buying a console until it has a certain amount of games you want to play. Not announced, not almost ready, but at retail.

The industry is getting really weird and really hardcore. You've got people who own more than one console just so they have one for the living room, one for the bedroom. There's a real incentive for a platform holder to want to sell addicted rubes like that lots of profitable consoles and more often.
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>>332629319
can't wait for sonykeks who laughed at xbone graphics gets xboned by PS4.5.
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>>332635045
Because then you'd have a PC, not a console.
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>Anyone actually thinking it could do 4k games

Maybe mobile tier ones.

Much like with NX 4k here essentially means it will support 4k video material.
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>>332635887
The official time to buy a console is when it is hacked to shits, not receiving major updates or releases and costs ~$100 on CL.
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>needing two playstations to keep up to date with next gen
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>>332635545
The advantage of consoles over PC cucks is that our investment is guaranteed to last, while their hardware becomes obsolete every two years.
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>>332629319
Did you cry about this when they released the slim PS2? I remember playing battlefield 2 with way higher fps on the slim one than on the launch one.
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>Paying for online is fine
>Lack of exclusives is fine
>Upgrading after 2 years is fine

This gen has been great for highlighting sonygger hypocrisy, I wonder what's next.
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>>332635941
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>>332636047
I dont understand your logic. If i bought a pc that outperformed a ps4 at launch, it would still outperform it and play the same games 6 years later when ps5 comes out. Its more just that pc fags buy new shit because they can and because 792p 30 fps is not good enough for most of us.
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>>332636095
>I remember playing battlefield 2 with way higher fps on the slim one than on the launch one.
You remember wrong. It's the same hardware
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>>332636095
>being this retarded

it must hurt
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>>332636194
prove it faggot
>>332636251
>muh logical fallacies
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>>332636095
>battlefield 2
>on console
>PS2 slim faster than fat PS2
It's times like these that remind me how out of place I am on /v/
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>>332636292
>you have to prove me wrong
>i don't have to prove what i said is true

so retarded it hurts
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>>332636194
No it's not.
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>>332636095
does the ps4.5 run ps4 games and vice-versa?
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>>332635690
PS3 2006
PS4 2013

>selective forgeting the NX release window and the N3DS
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>>332636407
Yes
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>>332636385
PS2 slim had a 1.5x more powerful GPU than PS2 fat!!!!!
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>>332636487
>still being retarded
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>>332629319

>A year or two from now, 34 million people's console will be obsolete because all the devs only make games for the more powerful version

This is an April fool's joke, right?

No, it's too sick even for a joke.
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