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J-just imagine you're out there...
>>332603002
how can atlus even compete
>>332605965
There's a small chance that the gameplay and story might be good.
>End of March
>Still absolutely no info
LMAO can't wait for another delay
I really hope atlus isn't stupid enough to release P5 on the anniversary of the P1 release date.
How is Square Enix showing more gameplay for a game then Atlus?
>when the big boys came back to play and now B+ players like Persona get shown why they were niche shit back in the day
So ff15 is out of the way now. Its P5s turn to shine right?
>>332607949
either they go full steam ahead and dominate summer or they quietly announce a 2017 delay on twitter
>>332608120
fuck man...thatd be cuckshed tier behavior. i really hope thats not the case.
P-p-prease rook f-f-f-f-orrard to it.
S-summah 2016 is ours!....
Hopefully they will announce a release date at E3 :^)
>>332608745
Sad how ff15 is going to dominate this game. They really fucked up by not having it ready last year or early this year. 2015 was a shit year and this game wouldve stood out
>>332608819
We probably won't even see anything at E3 outside of an already-released trailer.
I'M GOING TO BUY AND ENJOY BOTH AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME.
ITT: Virgins
Who needs a full year just to bug test? Is this game on fire?
>>332609041
I can tell you that you won't and you can't stop me
>>332609532
Absolutely. Something went seriously wrong. I blame the PS4 port.
>yfw pushed back to 2017 because they don't want to compete with FF
>>332603002
Watch this game get 4K and completely shit on us.
>>332609532
Let's pretend that even if it were delayed soley to fix bugs, the game would have had to of been in a shit state to begin with.
There's no fucking way it would take that long to polish the game.
>>332609356
that kinda goes without saying, cpt obvious
>They're going to steal back the release date!
Kek, this game is going to look so measly and limited compared to xv. A few streets in tokyo and reskinned dungeons and xv has a massive open world with battles against giants and a transforming car.
>>332610134
>mfw Square beat us to it with the november dialed back to september announcement
IT'S NOT FAIR
>>332610134
That was denial incarnate
>>332609532
It's not bug testing, they said they wanted to add more content, right?
The singing ruins the song.
>people think FF and Persona have the same fanbase and people will have to choose
FF is the most normie-tier RPG there is, is there seriously anyone left on /v/ who will defend the last few games hardcore enough to even give a shit about XV?
Persona's fanbase is nothing but weeaboos and the less-jaded SMT fans at this point, people who wanted an alternative to the trash FF has become in the past few years
The two cross over less than you would think
I don't know why you guys are comparing xv and p5.
>>332610452
oh okay sure yeah okay
>>332610316
It's better to let them believe, the truth can be cruel.
Are you people fucking dense? Atlus never competed with the big dogs. The fact P4 came out for the PS2 in 2008 is proof of that.
>>332610421
I kind of agree
>>332610586
Hey man, I'm not calling what Persona has become any better. I'm just saying that they're completely different groups of people looking for different things.
When it turns out 70% of XV is a dating sim you can get back to me.
>oh look big western celebrities in our game
>oh look shitty popular band doing music in our game
So what? At the end of the day this is not whats gonna make your game good. This literally triple AAA western shitty marketing.
You know better than that, /v/.
ITS NOT FAIR PERSONA 5 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE JRPG OF THE YEAR
>>332610973
Now it'll be jrpg of next year :^)
In a couple days it'll be April and we still no nothing more than that trailer in Feb
Fuck you Atlus
>>332611319
Holy hell, never mind, that trailer was in September 2015
Atlus keeps fucking up, just give us more info on the anime at least
>>332611319
Summer officially starts in around 3 months and they still have nothing to show.
>>332606894
why would they show off the same repeating dungeon with the same repeating music that you're going to have to deal with all game?
>>332611896
shut the...shut the fuck up...
>>332603002
Where? In parallel universe where this thing is actually gonna be released?
My hype for this game is pretty much dead. Maybe some new news will rekindle it but I'm honestly just tired of getting my hopes up by this point.
>>332611896
Yeah, it really sucked that every dungeon in P4 had the same music over and over again.Are you talking about battle music?
>>332612234
Same here. Square is rocking this year hard. Deus ex, final fantasy, star ocean 5. I dont even know where Im going to find time to play persona 5 at this point. For quick sessions of gaming Im importing project diva future tone and x.
Atlus blew it. But hey, good thing they made time for DAN and Q right?
>>332612420
I can't believe that SO5 was announced well after P5 and will likely launch in the West before P5 is even out in Japan.
>>332612420
>deus garbage, final crap, star censored
Wow whole lot of fucking nothing.
>>332611896
They still haven't even shown core gameplay. We know nothing of the core combat, the social link equivalent, fusion, or the actual dungeon exploration. They've just shown bits and pieces that are stylish but are not what you're going to be doing 90% of the time, unless the bulk of the game is avoiding pendulum blades and opening a firing range with the same canned animation on every enemy.
>>332606125
If there's no dating sim, I'm pretty sure most people (newfags) are gonna be pissed as fuck. And btw, P5’s gonna star just that 4 MCs? Fucking Atlus, tell us something
>>332608745
He looks like the main character desu
>Winter 2014
I love being lied to.
>>332612609
I know man. Its mind boggling shit. They wasted so much time making their own engine and adding on fluff. Gamebyro worked and ran great for catherine, no reason they couldnt use that and save 2+ years.
Only the cucks get more hope from fucking multiple delays. The games likely going to be a shitshow and theyre just trying to get it back on track anyway they can.
>>332612708
DS, FF, SO have more good games than bad unlike persona where the only good ones are 3 and 4.
>SMT IV Final
>Announced, went through it's pre-release cycle and promotion and was released before we got any new P5 info
>One month after it released, still no new info
>>332612863
>Something to piss off the waifu losers
Good.
>>332609579
>can't buy both
>being this salty
Stay poor
>>332612941
To be fair it's the same game as IV, not to mention it requires less assets than a Taiwan mobage.
>two Tales games are going to come out in the span between P5's announcement and release
Really an indictment on both companies
>>332612940
All good Persona games were the last ones. It means series improved.
All good DS, FF and SO games were the first ones, which were released like 15 years ago. It means all these series degraded into the trash.
>>332610914
>implying P5 have any better “gameplay” mechanic other than repeating dungeons, turn-based combat and dating sims
But I'm still playing it. The series just have that charm that I just find pleasing.
>>332612941
To be fair, SMT IV was garbage
>>332613119
You're forgetting that Zestiria was shit and Berseria looks worse, and both have PS2 graphics.
>>332612941
You forgot about something else pal.
>>332612989
But they're the ones that popularize the series to anime-goers or dare I say it, weebs. And SMT-fags are too proud to play Persona for some reason.
>>332612940
It ran great for Catherine because it was relatively small game. It was nothing but the bar, some non-playable areas, and the nightmares. Gamebryo can't handle full-fledged RPGs and all of the variables involved with it. P5 running on it wouldn't be as bad as a Bethesda game would because it likely wouldn't have quite the same number of choices to track, but it'd still run into tons of issues because of its scale. Making an engine from scratch might not have been the best thing to do, but it's better than reusing Gamebryo.
>>332613452
>Wanting the anime-watching audience
Atlus must have discovered some real game breaking shit since you don't plan a 40 hour stream and open it up with a delay like that.
>post yfw Final Fantasy XV's release on September 30th means that the USA release of Persona 5 likely won't come out till Q4 2016 at the earliest
>yfw they delayed it for thePC port
Mighty Number 9 was announced end of August 2013, while Persona 5 was formally revealed later on in November. Which of these games with ambiguous 2016 release dates will actually come out this year?
>unironically waiting for japanese capeshit with fucking hipsters
Why are you waiting for this shit again? Its barely Persona at this point. No waifus no shit, whats the point even?
>>332613854
>>332613774
>implying MGSV-clone can compete with an actual JRPG
>Still literally 10 minutes into P4:G
Maybe one day I'll get off my ass and play it
>>332611896
DELETE THIS
>>332613898
What did you do for +98% of the game when the dating only makes up a fraction of it and even less if you're not multi-timing everyone?
>>332613774
>Q took 6 months to localize
>console game will probably take even longer
>game is probably not coming out in Japan within the next 2 months
>Q1 2017
>>332614161
>hes not finishing his dungeon duties in the first day of the new month so he can spend his entire game time waifuing social links
Can you be more casual?
>>332614163
If the game was done and they were just polishing/bug testing, the smart thing to do would be to give them the script now to start the localization process. The fact that they didn't bother telling Atlus USA about the delay and the twotter guy had to fly to Japan and hear about it like everyone else is probably evidence they aren't going to do that. This whole thing is annoying on so many levels.
>>332613452
>for some reason
It's the same reason you don't want to hang out with your daughter after she goes off to college and becomes a massive whore
It's the shell of what you once loved but at its core it's gone, and you're the only one who wishes it would go back to the way it was
>>332614163
If P5 does launch this year then I'm pretty confident that Atlus USA can get it out before the end of 2016 since they have been keeping a pretty light localization schedule likely so they can put all focus on P5 when the time comes. SMT IV was a pretty major game and there was only about two months between the Japanese and Western release.
>>332614398
Honestly the whole thing feels a bit shifty.
When they were producing FFXV they sent out fan surveys asking if people were excited for/going to buy P5
Now it seems like they're holding P5 info out until XV drops so the Fujos can wave their magic money around at two games one after another.
>>332614349
>as if that's not literally the worst part of P4
Fuck man, every time I think about it I remember more things that P3 did right which P4 completely backpedaled on
The dungeon crawling should not be a chore you rush through in one night so you can spend the rest of your time doing literal chores more efficiently
>>332614661
You can do the same thing in P3 though. If a character gets exhausted, just swap them out and the MC has such a high tolerance that you can blow through the whole thing in 1-2 nights.
>>332614526
>P4
>July 2008 JP, December 2008 NA
>P3
>July 2006 JP, August 2007 NA
Just let it go.
>>332614661
The dungeons in P3 were fucking garbage and worse than P4, what are you on? It was also piss fucking easy too.
>>332614163
Q had about the same amount of text as a regular Persona game, possibly even more, considering that you had two modes with tons of unique dialogue. I think I remember Atlus USA saying that it was their biggest project yet at the time, and I doubt anything's beaten it yet.
>>332614349
How did you get that? I said that the dating – not the social links in general – makes up a tiny fraction of the game that you can't go back to and that doesn't near on the main story. If you're playing only for waifus, you're going to be blue-balled for at least 50 hours.
>>332614661
You still had plenty reason to bum rush dungeons in P3. It's just that you were forced to do it in chunks that were largely the same most of the time with a different mini-boss at the end.
>>332614661
>The dungeon chore should not be a chore
Sorry, but this is not mainline. Persona's "dungeon crawling" was always beyond redemtion. Its pure shit.
Sorry guys, won't be localized till 2017.
>>332614661
p3 idiots are funny, this problems existed in both games. Hopefully p5 can fix it.
>>332603002
>tfw hyped for both
>XV is confirmed to come out worldwide in September and SE are now going balls deep in marketing mode
>P5 is supposedly coming out this summer and we've still heard fuck all about the game
>tfw even if P5 IS actually coming out this summer we likely wont see it in the west till next year given Atlus' track record
>>332614807
There's at least some kind of system in place to discourage that at least, though. It wasn't perfect, but their solution only made things worse.
Not to mention that working your way through one enormous dungeon gradually feels way more satisfying than charging through a bunch of 20 floor dungeons
Someone call the cops because Square just killed Persona 5
>>332614852
P4 dungeon floors consist of like four hallways that are each a mile long, whereas P3's are more tightly packed and you aren't just holding forward as much.
P3 also at least had a reason to be randomly generated since Tartarus rebuilds itself every night. P4 just does it because P3 did it.
And if you tell me 3 is easier than 4 then you're a madman, P4 is absolute baby mode.
ITS ORIGHT GUYS GAME WILL BE RELEASED IN 2016 SINCE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT
>>332615375
>oright
I don't get it.
>>332615230
Not after MGSV. We've seen this bullshit before, nobody besides consolewars-kiddies seriously wants this bland open-world cinematic emoboy simulator of yours.
>>332615362
what are you smoking? I love p3 too, but p4s are undeniably better by a small margin. They both need improvement. p3 had the EXACT same layout for every level of tartarus. The music was exatcly the same on each level. It felt like a fucking slog getting through each level.
>>332615096
No, it didn't, at least not to the same degree. Late in the game when you've got a shitload of party members to choose from yes, but when you've got no/very few substitutes for teammates that get tired you have to pace yourself.
>>332615695
>the music was exactly the same
Except where it gradually changes and gets more complex each block?
Yknow, like a theme running throughout the game because it's a single dungeon
Like a creative little thing they did where the music reflects the environment
It's at least more creative than "it's a strip club level, give it strip club music"
>>332615191
I suppose, but I disagree with you on the satisfying part. Tartarus and the Shadow World were incredibly dull where it was just hallways after hallways and eventually going into a boss area, however with P4 you got some character progression/exposition throughout the dungeon. In P3 you didn't get a thing besides the grind from what I remember.
From the minute we saw from P5, it seems that the dungeons wont just be hallways after hallways, from my interpretation anyway.
>>332615960
>the music reflecting the environment is much more creative than the music reflecting the environment
P3-only fans come up with the craziest justifications.
>>332615695
Maybe the same skin, but Tarturus floors were still random, and there was a pretty good chance that you had no idea where the stairs were located at. Hence, splitting up to find the stairs quickly was a viable option, if you wanted to risk it that is. P4's were extremely linear and didn't even give you the option to split up, since it wasn't even needed
Also, Fes gave the option of changing the theme playing in the dungeon if you wanted, which I admit should have been a much larger selection
>>332612940
>"the only good ones are 3 and 4"
>>332615960
It's also boring, and the layers aren't that great on a block-to-block basis. It's not even a remix of a core tune that changes things up a good amount while still being recognizable; you just get progressively less incomplete music. At some point, you tune out because you're listening to the same track for long stretches with no other songs to break monotony.
>>332616264
I'm saying it does more than reflect the physical, visible aspects of the environment.
Tartarus is a single dungeon that changes in each block, so it has a single song that changes in each block, with the song also carrying a bit of the tone of what's going on in the story.
Mario 64 has Christmasy bells when you're in a snow level, that's not a difficult thing to do.
>>332613093
>it's the same game as IV
Sure it shares things with IV but that's not the case at all.
>>332616537
Individually sure, each P4 dungeon has better tracks than Tartarus does, but I think the feel that Tartarus' evolving music gives off contributes more to the game as a whole.
Heaven is a nice song but right after the video game dungeon with the fun video game music.
>>332616254
I personally don't like having the characterization come in the middle of a dungeon.
When I'm in dungeon mode I'm in dungeon mode, being interrupted to listen to Chie talk about what she's sad about or whatever isn't anywhere near as important to me as it should be when it comes when I don't want it.
That's why whoever came up with having the Nyx Annihilation Team level up every few floors needs to be shot.
>>332616429
P3's core sound design should be such that things remain varied by default without any player intervention. The jukebox stuff should be a nice garnish.
>>332616858
I think P4's dungeon music also blows for the most part. A neat concept doesn't mean anything if it isn't implemented well. The idea behind Tartarus' changes was fine; it's the utter lack of distinctiveness, even when the blocks themselves get design overhauls. You can change a lot about a song while still keeping it recognizable.
>>332603002
>FFXV coming out Sept 30 2016
>Persona 5 coming out Sum.. Q1 2017
Make it happen Atlus
>>332617181
>having the Nyx Annihilation Team level up
The what?
>>332617463
Judgment link in P3. Yknow, how in the final block the link levels up every few floors and Fuuka goes "YEAH GUYS WE CAN DO IT" and you have to watch that fucking long-ass animation for the link rank up.
>>332617463
It was the Judgement S.Link, which happened automatically when reaching a set of certain floors in the final part of Tarturus. It felt like they forgot Judgement and had to stick it somewhere.
>>332617619
Shit, I forgot about that. I didn't mind P4's exposition, but P3's judgment link really served no purpose.
>>332603002
Man if this game doesn't release this year I can fully see some crazy fans bombing atlus or some shit. What a colossal fuckup this has all been.
>>332617829
>Atlus finally looks to be redeeming the Persona games after whoring out P4 for several years
>game will never come out
>Final probably isn't getting localized because P5 is in development hell
You're fucking right I'll bomb Atlus HQ
>>332617181
True, but you got something to break you out of the monotony of the dungeon. The only time where I felt enjoyment going into Tartarus was the final leg of it.
