What is /v/'s opinion on Hearthstone?
>>332575427
shitty watered down version of MTG.
I guess anything can be competitive if you want it to lmao. Such a shit game
More like Jewstone
>>332575427
>£34.99 for an expansion
>>332576903
You can always buy with in-game currency :^)
I mean it's fun, but it's quite simple and relies on luck. Bots have made it to the top leagues before
>tfw got to rank 14 in ranked with my warlock
>never paid money for any cards
>all these opponents with legendaries
Is this the end?
>>332575427
It's fun but theres no reason to keep playing it.
I got legend once and now what is the fucking point? I have the best card back and my main class is gold. I have to work to hard to get new cards and shit for it to be worth it.
They need another progression system.
It's fun to waste time in but anyone who takes this randomfest seriously as an esport is a fucking idiot
pay2win
>>332577024
I don't think you can with this one. I see no option to do so.
Pay2win shit.
>b-but you don't have to spend any money, you can be competitive without spending anything
Not for long. And pay2not-grind is still p2w. Given equal time investment, the player who spends money will always have access to a wider variety of cards (and therefore more options for deckbuilding and strategy) than the player who spends nothing.
>>332577297
Not that anon but go into solo adventures and there should be an option to buy with in-game gold
Your average card game.
Shit.
>>332577138
>play casual
>play a mirror match against malfurion
>this fucker plays legendaries and rare cards every tour.
>still kick his ass with common cards
Truly a magnificent game
>>332577138
Back when I started I hit rank 4 with zero legendaries. This was pre-naxx, but a couple of good rares can go a long way. You can even hit legend now with a very cheap midrange hunter if you play enough and get good matchups.
>>332577463
Ah yeah, you can individually purchase challenges.
Fun to play on the shitter.
>>332577384
The problem as I see it is that old players have a huge headstart to new players no matter if they spend money or not. Now they are going to enter into the format dinamic or retiring old sets, making it even harder for new players to get in without spending.
>>332577384
I've hit legend a couple times while only buying one expansion with real dosh. Started in beta though
>>332575427
Nothing to do no your opponent's turn, extremely boring, mostly luck based, cards and art are cool.
Played for a bit, but just stopped because it ain't fun.
Money + luck = victory.
Out of all my friends i am the only one to not have payed for a thing, and i can beat them with my Shaman deck.
>>332577138
>get to rank 20
>people busting out legendaries and epics left and right
>I have jack shit
>still somehow manage wins to get to rank 17
>>332577138
That's exactly how the system works.
Go ahead and make a grand new account with a disposable email address, when you start your online games against actual players, you'll get three games against real beginners
then they throw you head first into the pool with all of the other players
I made three accounts doing this, and had the exact same result
>>332577384
Not really, you just have to play cheap decks. There are pros who made new accounts and hit legend within a month
>>332578061
>>people busting out legendaries
Oh hey that was another thing, the legendaries are boring, there are no real complex interactions in this game and it suffers for it.
My friend plays it all the time and he loves it
He"s a bit retarded tho so i guess this game is perfect for his IQ
Like all of Blizzard's recent games, I found myself enjoying it for a week or so. Then I had no desire to engage with it whatsoever.
>>332578061
You can get to 14 - 15 with a basic deck.
>>332577720
Are you retarded? Less expansions required to be competitive mean less money spent.
>>332575427
fuckin pay to win game with the illusion of not being pay to win.
fuck it. garbage.
Is there such a thing as a good TCG video game?
>>332575427
honestly only the arena is good, and occasionally making bad original decks and beating shitters with them
>echoing ooze
>buff with explorers hat
>feign death
>4 hats
>hat multiplication deck
>>332575427
RNG the game, idk how they managed to make it "competitive"
tfw only paid for Naxx and have 10 legendaries from card packs/arena runs
feels good
>>332575427
It's a decent mobile game
>>332575427
Pokemon TCG online is cheaper and better in every way
Whats a good card game on android? I don't want to be locked behind a pay wall tho. Is that duelist on android?
Too RNG-based.
I prefer to play Spellweaboo(weaver)
>>332580102
well I bunch that I found "decent" or at least have a good start are
RuneScape legends
Spellweaver
Duelyst
HEX
This is just an opinion, if you don't like some (or all) these games good.
>>332581983
Well apart of Magic and YGO there's Mabinogi Duel. is pretty original in some aspects.
>RNG out the ass
>Literally pay to win or grind for thirty years
>updated twice a year only to push more shekels
>seasons mean literally nothing AKA no monthly balancing or anything
>modes are constantly rehashed
>new ranked system made to cash in even more
Complete trash
>>332579831
Can't believe I agree with an anon.
Less cards=less money spent to get cards.
>>332577927
>>332579906
>>332581629
>>332582052
I don't get this. Can I get a serious response? What did you guys expect exactly when trying out this CARD GAME? Is this your first? Have you guys tried any of the larger ones that set the standard for the genre?
Like what did you guys actually expect? This is literally how the genre works.
>>332585152
I expected half of the cards to not involve chance to see if their effects trigger at all or don't have a significantly weakened effect. There's no way to guarantee strategy when your cards can't work consistently.
>>332582929
Mabinogi Duel is fucking great.
Why do people want /v/'s opinion so much? You can lurk here for a day and realize its always gonna be boiled down to shitposting and "It's shit" "It's for cucks" "It's 30 frames only"
All I'm trying to say is: Just formulate your own opinion on the games you play, like them or hate them, quit seeking /v/'s hive-minded opinions.
>>332585628
But that's apart of the base mechanics of the game. The RNG I mean. Just drawing cards from the deck alone is what you are complaining about.
The whole point of card games is RNG and mitigating the RNG by your choice of cards during deck building.
a card does 3 damage randomly to all targets? They you mitigate it by making the opponent have more targets than you.
etc etc
post cards you have trouble with so we can tell you how to mitigate it's RNG, the same way it works in any cardgame.
>>332575427
Faggot: the Gathering
>>332586554
For the memes. Like you said if you lurk here you already know what responses you'll get. It's sort of like when people post dota vs lol threads. The only people not having fun in those threads are the ones who don't play either and complain about how shitty the thread is. The best part is one upping the other guy in a shit flinging memefest.
If you aren't having fun you need to lurk moar before you join in.
>>332575427
"rolls dices"
You win!
>>332587378
Every card game, then.
>>332575427
Not enough cards printed yet, a lot of the cards that have been printed are complete shit, blizzard is milking this cow for all the shekels it can
Still I play it regularly and sometimes find it enjoyable, mostly I stay in it in the hopes that once there are a shit ton more cards deck variety will increase and I'll have more fun in the future
>>332587634
HS takes it to another level though.
Shit like "summon a random minion" is inexcusable
It lacks maximum fun for me
>>332588416
get got lol
>>332586774
>>332588416
I don't play mage or have ever used this card but off the top of my head the effect tells me you should focus on the fact that it's a spell card that replaces it self with a creature. You should not expect to psuedo ramp with this but it is a strong possibility. you can mitigate the RNG of this card by focusing on the fact that you get two play two cards with this, one being a spell card and one being a creature card. Combo it with cards that take advantage of the fact and you'll see you can mitigate it. Basically focus less on the fact that you randomly get any minion and instead focus on the fact that you get a minion.
Pretend the common version of this card was add a 2/2 that costs 2 mana and remove the part that reduces cost.
>>332575427
Is this any good for real? One of my best friends plays the shit out of it and has told me multiple times that I'd like it and should download it, but I just keep ignoring the faggot.
>>332589186
>Basically focus less on the fact that you randomly get any minion and instead focus on the fact that you get a minion.
>>332585964
>you're in a bar with your cardfu
>when suddently this thing slaps you're cardfu ass
>how do you react?
>>332589479
How did you even get that lol?
Let me clarify this for you
Focus on the following
It's a spell card. When you cast it any cards that you have that trigger whenever you cast a spell go off. Some cards that come to mind are antonidas, auctioneer, that 3/5 that summons 1/1
The second CONSTANT of this card is that you will always get a minion. The VARIABLE is that this minion will either come out with pseudo ramp or be a costless minion.
Cards that benefit from you summon a minion get triggered of this part.
Lastly since the card replaces itself (+0) it also works with cards that work on handsizes. Basically what I'm saying is that if you use it as is hoping to get a broken card for less than 3 mana then the card is being underused and you will feel "FUG RNG" when it doesn't go your way. You can mitigate this.
Anyone can hit legend with a basic face deck. Pure fucking cancer and boring as hell, but it works.
You're gonna lose, a lot, but it's probably possible.
>>332588002
Wait, who's Jake?
>>332575427
>RNG by virtue of being a card game
>add in even more RNG
game is fucking lame
>>332583260
>filename
But magic is the better card game anon.
>>332589186
>>332590092
are
are you fucking serious right now?
>>332577297
Whispers is entirely pack based, the pre-purchase is just 50 packs.
Blizzard actually seems to care about the integrity of the game this expansion.
Standard ranked sounds like it might actually be not shit for once.
Dr. Boom not getting nerfed is the biggest fuck up in any video game, ever.
>tfw you always draft complete shit in arena
>3 wins highest
>>332589940
just try it faggot
>people talking as if mtg is hard to play
The hardest component of most card games is deckbuilding. Of course hearthstone is much much easier in this regard.
But actually playing the decks? You're fucking delusional if you think mtg is particularly harder to play than hearthstone.
>>332596867
My highest wins is 3 as well. But then again, i only played arena twice before realizing it was a complete bullshit waste of time.
>>332597385
excuse me, did you said something?
>>332597801
Make it less obvious next time
