On WoT EU forum there is thread in which OP claims that the game is rigged completely and submitted a ticket to Wargaming.net to delete his account permanently. After submitting screenshots of deletion request ticket and elaborating his claims, his posts on the thread gets removed and he gets banned from the forum by WG. Some of his posts have been quoted by other members so they can still be read.
http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/561790-this-game-is-completely-rigged/
DELETE THIS
>>332546083
support the players against corporate masters that refuse to listen to their customers!
>>332546196
Wargamer.net rep here guys. Honestly "this" as there is really nothing to see here, folks. Carry on and continue to enjoy wargamer(TM) brand games!
I only play WoWs
>For those who asked for proof of game being rigged, I am sorry but I don't have the time or desire to prove anything to people who can't use their brain
Wow, what a very compelling argument. I can see why the devs tried to hide that from us. Let me guess, it's a scam because he's such a pro player but matchmaking rigged him to lose games to keep his winrate near 50/50. Just another kid with an overinflated ego, likely no control over his wallet, and no idea what the words he's saying mean.
>>332546841
If WoT is rigged, so is WoWS. They do have super advanced algorithm which is closed source and patented. They don't even deny it anymore.
>>332546997
There were many other posts but all deleted but only some remained in other people's posts that quoted OP.
>>332546841
Is WoW any fun? Does it take forever to unlock new ships without paying for everything? I really want to play some warship games but there doesn't seem to be any recent ones or even old ones that look enjoyable.I wish Warthunder would have naval warfare in it.
I have heard about this rigging on numerous occasions and it wouldn't surprise me from huge corporation such as Wargaming.net, so I support this cause!
>>332547808
It's moderately fun imho, but still beta afaik, so it might get better. However, if you don't pay premium it is hard to farm and go over T8.
>>332547904
I have had high doubts that RNG in wot is no so random at all, but never managed to prove anything to myself or anyone else. Don't play anymore tho.
If the game is rigged then how come unicums can get 60% winrate and shit
statically speaking, its possible that one person could be such an outlier that the games look rigged. doesn't mean they are though
>>332549193
The game is more friendly to noobs since there is much more noobs than good players, which in turn keeps the player base in check.
Rigged how? Each and every matchmaking strives towards 50% win rate. It's the nature of the system itself. The clear difference between players that can play and monkeys with keyboards is the problem.
Can you delete your own account permanently? I wanna do so
>>332549806
It is actually the above average and good players that complain the most.
Quote from OP's post "Everything that should be random (in respectful levels of the tank/spg you are playing) - MM, hit chance, pen chance, etc. - all these stats are recalculated all the time and then "random" but not so random values are generated to even things out and keep masses of players in check. There is an advanced algorithm under the hood taking care of this."
It does make sense and this is not the first time this was claimed. However you won't find it on official forums.
>>332550047
https://na.wargaming.net/support/kb/articles/89
If you can't still play well with RNG rigging against you, then you aren't really a good player
>>332550469
Why don't they admit this then instead of denying and censuring everything? And to be honest, when I aim properly I expect my shot to hit most of the time and not purposefully nerf me because I played good in the past battles or whatever, while at the same time it boosts other players. It is just unfair and evil, these game models should be exposed and not supported.
>>332547010
>>332546083
And how does he claim the game is rigged? All I saw was "its a scam to get your money", which I dont really get seeing as you dont need real money for anything meaningful. Prem time/tanks are a luxury and are never needed to get top tier tanks.
All I know about WoT is that it gave me a cute Girls Und Panzer theme for my PS4.
>>332550741
Because the founders are dirty Soviet kikes who have no idea what a good game is. World of Tanks was literally just a randomly good game, as you can see by the rest of their track record, and the fact the main branch continued to make it worse patch after patch. They are the monkeys who ended up typing Shakespeare, plain and simple.
>>332551214
I'd say because they are really good at scamming people. There are many alternatives to WoT and they are not rigged I believe and they do not scam people like WG does. They have 45 million players and they got that by scamming with their advanced closed source algorithm shit. Letting them get away with this sends a message to other game developing companies that they can do whatever the fuck they want.
>>332551584
What do you mean scamming? They aren't scamming anyone, they are just working with a foundation created by inexperienced game developers
>play IS3 in clan wars
>shoot gold ammo all the time
>never penetrates other IS3s, even if they are badly angled
>they can ALWAYS penetrate my front armor even across the map
>>332547091
OP probably should have gone the extra mile and put up some quotes to prove his point
Honestly nothing in his post, or the first ten in that thread, drove me to keep digging. It all just seems like the whining of a couple players that cant keep their win8 in the green or blue.
Try Cosmic Break. There teams of free players are matched against teams of OP pay to win faggots.
Most WoT players are really bad who would have guessed.
In case you don't browse the WoT forums, a thread like this pops up every day, even on the dead NA server.
>>332547808
I haven't paid for anything and I am almost tier 7 BB and almost tier 6 in cruisers so grind is not so bad and I don't play much and only been playing 3 much I average like 4 games a day at most. You would have to form your own opinion desu, I too wish there was a war thunder naval mode.
I've played on friends accounts that have a lot worse rating, winrate and everything than me and its not really any different
>>332551810
Reminds me of my time playing War Thunder with its totally non existent russian bias and the T-50 wrecking the entire fucking reich while shells would bounce off it like candy.
>>332547808
It's pretty good, but just like WoT and War Thunder, grind gets pretty horrible. But lower tiers are still pretty fun.
>>332546083
Shit game, glad I stopped playing a year ago
>>332551895
There are links towards the middle of the thread. Don't care enough to check'em though. I only have enough trouble withthis 9
>>332551810
Because gold ammo doesn't mean shit if you have been nerfed by the game. Literally. It won't pen any better. This is also another additional benefit they get from rigging the game since people don't know this, which results in them buying more gold ammo in hope to get better results.
>>332551895
He posted some analysis by other people, but his posts got deleted. Here are some worth checking that I found in quote of his post by other members:
http://lightquick.co.uk/world-of-tanks-is-the-matchmaker-rigged.html?Itemid=252
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/forums/showthread.php?10588-WoT-is-rigged
The only way this premise works is if you're daft enough to try and buy an advantage, because the advantage you can buy is tiny.
I noticed that when you play a tank you didn't play for a long time or one you just fully upgraded you get good games for a day, after that it's the same shitty MM. Maybe that's what he's mad about.
>>332553135
This is also claimed to be rigged. The game forces you to play different tanks, again to even things out and force you to have more thanks and spend more money etc etc. I have heard of some really good players abusing this after they realized how it works.
>>332551810
>Shoot gold ammo on angled surfaces.
>IS is made of angles and angled shield armor.
Poor normalization on gold shells makes tanks relying on their angles really fucking good.
Other thing I noticed is how others seem to have perfect precision while I can't hit shit even with full aim on stationary target. I got hit into tiny weak spots all the time across the map. They shouldn't be even able to see those spots but they could hit them perfectly.
>>332553936
Get good? what's your recent wn8?
>>332547808
>any fun?
no but there's no other ones even remotely decent.
>Does it take forever to unlock new ships without paying for everything?
you get to tier 5 without much grind, a lil grind for tier 6, a lot of grinding for tier 7, and about 110 good exp battles for 8.
Giving an example, to unlock Amagi, the tier 8 IJN BB, you need 135k exp, and there's two hulls you need to unlock before that. Most good players average 1300-1600 exp, so Amagi takes about 100-110 battles in the Nagato.
you also have to grind for credits because they ramp up in cost to buy very quickly and you will be losing money on tier 8 unless you have good wins.
the matchmaking is already shit. there's more than enough players to squish the queue down so you aren't fighting tanks 2 tiers above or 2 tiers below yours, but it's left like that just so the premium tanks can benefit from preferential MM.
>>332553936
I don't know about this but I know that their algorithm is really advanced. The game looks great and all but it is this fully patented and closed source algorithm that got them this huge success I believe.
Like I said above, it nerfs you (your hit chance, pen chance, bounce chance, etc) while at the same time you can encounter a buffed player and get annihilated in seconds.
>>332554213
Premium tanks don't get pref now, only the old ones
>>332554387
So the vast majority of them then.
>>332554654
But still your point is now invalid. They don't sell the old ones as much, and are replacing them with nonpref ones
>>332554921
So you're saying there's just as many tanks with preferential matchmaking in circulation and they're not doing anything to reduce that, only dilute them with premium tanks that don't?
Because that makes it seem like there's a load of tanks in the game with preferential matchmaking, and they're going to continue to be in the game and have preferential matchmaking.
Never played this game before, is it good?
>>332552632
So let me the this straight, when you are low on win rate the game treats you as fodder and puts you in games with few experienced player on each team. They duke it out, mostly decide the outcome of the battle, and you try to plunk off tanks to get some points.
As your win rate gets higher, the game starts putting you in as the experienced player and expects you to carry your team/decide the battle.
So the game purposely puts you in "trail by fire" scenarios to make you or break you. Whats so bad about that? This is a game where 60% win rate is considered super top tier, and the fact that people actually have 60% obviously means they have the skills to clutch games.
>>332555091
No, you said they don't do 1 tier spread or whatever the fuck you're complaining about because they want to sell premium tanks. I'm saying your fucking retarded; the premium tanks they sell now don't have pref MM anyways
>>332555270
It's OK if you know how to play. But lots of the mechanics suck, you really need to know what you are doing and what tanks to play.
>>332555406
I'm not the other fellow you were replying to, just someone who owns several tanks with preferential matchmaking who thought it prudent to call you on your shit.
>>332555675
Well better luck next time I suppose
>>332546083
making excuses for playing badly,accusing others cuz his winrate is very precious to him, and mostly, he pays real money to win his ass on this game?
just another case of scrubs being salty and going here to /v/ to cry more
>>332555270
Sort of, as a result of it being FTP the game has a lot of RNG and power-creep, so you'll have to deal with the fact that your grind will be rendered futile from time to time.
But if you love tanks, don't mind the game being unrealistic and can deal with every match being full of braindead morons, it's not too bad.
Warthunder is the more realistic option, but unfortunately the devs of that are pants on head retarded, so they screw their game up much more often and it's not doing great for players as a result.
>>332555883
Don't need it, you've already admitted that the tanks with preferential match making aren't going anywhere.
It's not about luck, it's about not spewing bullshit.
>>332555350
Not exactly, please read above posts again.
But anyway, how is this not bad? It is almost like you have minimum to zero effect on anything that is happening ingame, it is like game playing you and not you playing the game? It's a fucking illusion, how can you find that fun and okay? Btw those top players know this and play against it. Some of them are paid by and some are related in different ways to WG as well. This is a big serious business with a lot of $$$ involved.
>>332556020
But I wasn't never trying to say that. I even explained to you what I was saying and you still cannot understand it. Fucking pubbies, I swear
>>332556220
You're the idiot trying to tell me my overpriced hunks of crap don't get preferential MM, don't take your idiocy out on me.
>>332555932
According to his stats, he is not actually a scrub but a decent player, well at least above average that is, as it can be checked on third party wot stat sites. His Win ratio is average, but all other stats are above avg. Like I said, mostly above avg. and good players complain about this.
>>332556629
Are you literally retarded? Maybe you're not an English speaker. Please let me know if either or those are true
>>332556778
No, neither.
Please do explain how my premium tanks aren't getting preferential matchmaking, I'm agog.
>>332557082
I never said those things, which is why I asked the question; you appear unable to read
>>332557218
>Premium tanks don't get pref now
I've read this a couple of times, and there's really only one meaning I'm able to derive from it.
I know how it is, it's hard to swallow your pride on an Anonymous imageboard, how ever would you show your face here again if you admitted you were wrong?
>>332557829
Anyone with any IQ and context would understand that premium tanks now refers to premium tanks now, as in the ones they release now (Like the ripper Patton and Panther8.8). I'm sorry I didn't type out "Premium tanks war gaming have released since [Date] and premium tanks they continue to develope are going to not have pref treatment as said by WG developers." for you Jimbo
>>332555551
>>332556020
Thanks, i'l give it a try and see if i like it then.
>>332558186
You say that as though people need to keep buying premium tanks to use them, you're ignoring everything that doesn't fit your narrative so you can be right.
On the internet.
Anonymously.
>>332558435
you should also consider giving armored warfare a chance. I've been playing it for a few weeks and it seems like they've gotten rid of a lot of frustrations from WoT.
honestly I've just been playing PvE since fuck PvP with random teammates.
>get close
>shoot people in the back
>no problem with rng
where is it rigged?
Their games are pretty shit anyway.
After the autistic PR thing with the used pornstar panties I complety lost any interest in trying out the games.
The only one I played was WoWS and it got fucking bored. You barely have any controll on your ships, carriers are shit and the automatic AA makes them complety unplayable past tier 6 and the grind is so damn boring, not even War thunder has this kind of grind except past tier 4 maybe and when trying to unlock the Jets.
>>332558736
I'm saying that as though WG doesn't reduce MM spread because of premium tanks, which they don't. But you don't seem to accept that, from a guy on the Internet, who's anonymous
>>332558930
AW has PvE?
With progression, or just for S&G?
>>332559183
I never said anything about the MM spread, that other Anon was ignorant and stupid to suggest it.
And my tier 8 TD still won't see a tier 10 match.
>>332559136
WoWS always comes down to who has the better torpedo guys.
thats it, fun for a while, fun in low tiers, but otherwise frustrating
>>332546083
>rigged
like how?
>>332559403
Is that a... what was it called? Nashorn?
>>332559136
>After the autistic PR thing with the used pornstar panties
wot?
>>332559603
read replies in this thread please it is mostly answered: ask more questions if something is unclear
>>332559403
But that's what I was talking about. I wasn't responding to whatever opinion you were holding inside, I was talking to someone else, my post was a response to someone else, not to you. So why do you think I was trying to argue with something you think? Jesus Christ
>>332559603
you have to pay to win
>>332559652
No, it's the Jagdtiger, but it's only mounting an 88mm.
Means you get something very nicely armoured, and it's got a nice rate of fire as well, laughable mobility though.
>>332559672
I can't remember the details anymore but in a con (Or maybe a show) a japanese pornstar came to the stage in military-style clothes as PR for WoT.
She then took out her panties on stage and gave it to a lucky winner in some contest.
Like I said it's only fogy in my mind but that shit was so disgusting that I lost all interest in it.
>>332559403
Is NOFUN dead?
>>332559767
>So why do you think I was trying to argue with something you think?
It was probably the way you kept on replying and saying I was wrong.
>>332559798
well i know, but i have been playing for like 4 years and the benifits for paying are more to your general progress than in game peformance, which also causes tomatoes in top tier games
>>332560331
I'm not sure, I think so.
I wasn't with them for very long, bunch of twats mostly.
>OMG a game company won't let me post bullshit on their forums.
Clearly this is a violation of your first amendment rights. Maybe you should start a whitehouse petition.
WoT is literally Dunning-Kruger: The Game.
You can see it at work in this fine thread.
This is coming from a 57% winrate player who has played over 12k battles since 2012.
>>332560338
But you were; you were assuming that I was talking about your opinions for whateve reason
>>332546083
>I am about to submit a ticket but before permanently deleting my account I want to say to fellow gamers that they are making a fool out of you if you're still playing and even worse, paying for this advanced money farming system designed with only one mission - to milk you dry. It is somewhat like a casino, the house always wins. I curse myself for being stupid and spending so much money on this scam. Do a research yourself if you don't want to take my (and many other's) word for it. This is for all those who are able to use their brain, common sense and are not naive and ignorant.
Wow, that's a lot of butt-hurt for a free-to-play game.
Though I do agree that people who play WoT are retarded.
>>332560671
>57% winrate
>12k battles
>since 2012
yeah fuck off
>>332560828
If you were retarded enough to play it, you'd be pretty butthurt too.
more fresh and interesting replies on the WoT forum thread from OP's link btw
>>332560828
You can play WOT, it's OK till T6. The ones paying for it are retarded though.
>>332561068
I have played WoT. It's just a plain bad game. I don't see why anyone would play it, free or premium.
>>332561026
my thoughts exactly
>>332561026
The evidence keeps piling on.
>>332561068
the real power creep happens at tier 9 where you cant make a regular income anymore, tier 10 is mostly a lost, but who doesnt want to wrekt havoc into enemy lines in a single tank (if mm
was lucky)
I'm not quite sure what you all are arguing about with the mm and premium tanks,but I can confirm that certain premiums got whole matches designed differently just so they could be the top dog.
Pic related, never even saw a tier V with this baby.
>>332561397
That's not what power creep means.
And of course some of the tiers you have to make a loss, otherwise what's the point of repair and ammo costs?
>>332561523
>1 day Premium subscription
wew hot
its like heroin for free but only 1 day
>>332561280
Exactly what is wrong with those numbers?
>>332561523
whole matches designed for premiums specially means there is realistic possibility that other aspects are highly manipulated as well which gives credit to these claims that the game is rigged. i honestly believe it is true and that OP (from WoT forum) is onto something
>>332561685
Protip; never discuss numbers with the WoT playerbase, they are autistic as fuck about them, they even needed to invent a whole new slew of numbers to argue over, and then they argue over how good those numbers are and invent more.
Well clan wars was pure lottery, don't know if they fixed it. It was impossible to win because the owners only needed to defend and knew all the places where to hide.
>>332561843
I don't expect to change their minds but I do expect to receive a moderately entertaining explanation.
>>332561685
While it is not impossible I guess, they just don't seem ordinary, too much deviations
>>332562053
Well considering I played off and on the amount of games is quite low I suppose.
But there are far better players with a lower amount of games and I'm not even talking about rerolls.
Anyone who takes this game slightly seriously should know this.
>>332561583
well the power creep between regular tier 9th and top tier tier 10's is quite noticeable
is7, bouce nearly everything from your side and turret armor while dishing out 130mm shells and there is the is8, which is kinda fast and got a good gun
>>332562314
IS8 is a piece of shit
>>332546083
Any game with micro transactions is rigged.
>>332562314
That's not power-creep either.
Power creep is when the Maus starts out being an imposing and intimidating tank that people have difficulty penetrating, and over time with new tanks becomes a large easily penetrated box covered in useless armour.
Got to keep the players on the grind treadmill, it's not enough to have a difference in power level between the tiers, you need to keep releasing newer and better tanks to keep people buying premium time and grinding.
Which sucks balls if you wanted to collect a few tanks and get good with them, because eventually they end up being completely outclassed in every way.
the game isn't rigged, it's weighted random - there is +/-25% RNG but the most likely place for your shell to fly is dead center, and the most likely damage roll is exactly average, because the numbers closest to average are weighted more
the same occurs with MM
>>332562832
It's rigged in the way the MM tries to balance you. When you are good it puts you into shit teams until your win ratio is 40%. MM tries to force 50%WR and it's not purely random.
>>332563118
It's a 15vs15 game, the MM cannot control all of the variables, not even close.
You can easily "cheat" the system and get a 90% winrate by only playing 3 man panzer B2 platoons, and the game will not "try" to lower your winrate, it will give you random matches.
>>332551186
>I thought I was the only one who used this wallpaper.
I don't even play that shot game but damn one of the best things I got from Sony.
>>332563713
>>332552632
http://lightquick.co.uk/world-of-tanks-is-the-matchmaker-rigged.html?Itemid=252
>>332563118
Doesn't DOTA 2 do the same thing? People were up in arms about it for a few months, but I haven't heard much about it in the past year or two
So basically this game plays you instead of you playing the game like OP in WoT thread said. And you pay for it. And you get pissed when you don't pen when you should and get penned when you shouldnt be. I'm not okay with this and will search for an alternative.
NOFUN get out
Anyone /uninstalled/ here? Been a long time and I don't regret it at all.
>>332564140
its been always beenj like that, but the same people complaining about +2tier mm will complain about +1 mm or even even match making
>true reddit balance
>>332564053
this proves nothing, come back when you have something other than one player's anecdotal evidence
>>332564476
>how is it fair that I have to face tanks that aren't the same nationality as my own!?
I play a different hell, fampai :^)
>>332564793
>the same game on flat terrain
It's a little bit different I suppose.
>>332564427
Uninstalling right now, but we should delete accounts as well to teach these commie fuckers a lesson desu
>>332565065WoT is actually more balanced than botes
>>332564659
I have eyes and senses
>>332565287
nah, the 4h+ install, 12GB disc is enough to keep people from coming back
>>332565416
So have I and I claim the opposite.
Checkmate
>>332565403
Don't fret sailor, a few years of power-creep will sort that right out!
>>332565416
>I'm retarded and didn't pass high school statistics
ok mate
>>332565416
and other senses*
>>332565586
If it even gets there to be honest. It took the WoWs dev team 6 months to put together 9 botes for a single RU cruiser tree
>>332556020
>Warthunder is the more realistic option, but unfortunately the devs of that are pants on head retarded, so they screw their game up much more often and it's not doing great for players as a result.
Seconded, last-man-standing was just the latest bad idea. Made sense on a superficial level ("why does the last crewmember just fuck off? Let's have him fight"), but in terms of gameplay and balance it is an indirect nerf to every tank that lacks explosive shells with decent penetration. God help you if you only have solid shot vs a 5-man crew enemy
>>332565539
I have learned from personal experience that game crave is sometimes unstoppable - like a fucking class A drug, so it is better to play it safe. I might write a word or two in support of the poor fella who got called a retard and conspiracy theorist on WoT forum as well
>>332556020
>Warthunder is the more realistic option,
calliope?
We'll never have a PvP tank game that isn't made by Russians
>>332556629
To be fair all tier 2's get pref mm. As for the B2 it has a tier 2 gun. If it saw anything higher than 4 it would non stop get it's shit punched. Even then the matilda still wrecks ace at that tier.
If you think WoT is rigged, you are a shitter. WoT is very fair: it sucks for everyone. Everyone gets bad mm and RNG. The game is designed that way to keep your good battles few and far between. These threads happen all the time on the forums and there is never any proof.
You know what my biggest evidence is for WoT not being rigged? If it were, I guarantee you the autists St the Wotkabs forum would have found it as they have laboured to uncover every other minute and pointless aspect of this game's mechanics. These are turbo autists. They would throw the biggest bitch fit. But since they haven't I'll just assume I that all is well in the world of that horrible, unbalance game. Sometimes I pull up a stream to see if I am interested, and then I see all the shitty maps and feel glad I don't play.
>>332551047
I think he's just commenting on how unbalanced it is. I still don't know how to kill an IS-3 from the front or sides with out a higher tier tank.
I wouldn't doubt the match maker being rigged as well to make you want gold rounds or better tanks.
>>332547808
WoWS is a lot less frustrating then WoT. Tactics are slower paced and team work is easier. The odds of dying in one hit are a lot lower and when you do, you usually see it coming.
>>332569083
too bad the gameplay is boring piece of shit
>>332566856
One tank with a fireworks launcher doesn't change that statement.
>>332568659
Drop a shell into the 30mm hatch on the roof, 90mm+ guns will overmatch. Get a flat angled shot on the front armor 200mm pen will melt it, 175 can pen too but less reliably. If you are a tier six tank you aren't really supposed to pen heavy tanks two tiers higher than you from the front. If you aim below the spaced armor and above the tracks you can easily pen it's sides.
WoT forum OP's quick summary of how WG's system works:
i hope i dont get banned too haha
from Vernicht:
"Basics of how the game is rigged and why:
-Everything that should be random (in respectful levels of the tank/spg/td you are playing) - MM, hit chance, pen chance, bounce chance, etc - all these stats are recalculated all the time and then "random" but not so random values are generated to even things out and keep masses of players in check.
-Since there is a lot more bad players, the game system is more friendly to them than to good players and this keeps the player base in check - large and constantly growing
-The system is unfair as the game can nerf you and you can encounter a player who is currently buffed, getting instantly owned by "bad luck" (this is besides MM putting you in retard teams)
-Spawn points are manipulated as well (sometimes in combination with retard teams generation resulting in infamous lemming trains with blind and deft people who don't react to map blinks and chat)
-Gold ammo doesn't help if you have been nerfed by the game, you won't penetrate more - since players do not realize this it will also often inspire them to buy gold ammo since they constantly fail to pen and try to compensate
-Game is also rigged in a way that it forces you to play and grind different tanks by giving you losing streaks and nerfing tanks that you play a lot - more money to WG
-The game looks and sounds great, but it is almost like you have minimum effect on what will happen in game with MM and stats being nerfed/buffed according to previous games stats - it is like the game plays you instead of you playing the game
-There is an advanced closed-source and patented algorithm under the hood taking care of this
-Many good and long-term players are aware of these game mechanics and play according to them resulting in high win ratio and good stats but they won't reveal their secret to success
There is even more but I have to go to bed now, work day tomorrow."
>>332569385
well there is no such knd of tank in wot
>>332546583
Wargaming.
I will give you 5 because spelling it wargamer pissed me off a bit.
>>332569535
>Many good and long-term players are aware of these game mechanics and play according to them resulting in high win ratio and good stats but they won't reveal their secret to success
That's bullshit, there are many educational unicum streams and YouTube channels as well as countless forum posts on how to improve. The sad thing is even if you get good the game isn't fun. I'm still waiting for bluestealth to commit suicide
>>332559198
full progression! multiple difficulty modes even
there are some random encounter minibosses too
>>332569535
I TOTALLY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS SECRET BUT MOMMY SAID I HAVE TO GO TO BED SO SORRY GUYS TTYL.
Fuck off, either stay up and post it all or go kill yourself.
>>332567906
There is not enough autism available if you dont have access to the code. Its imposible to prove it.
I think that its rigged, but not enough, you can still carry if the system fuck you if you try.
>>332546083
>Never play in platoons
>60% wr
Sure this game is rigged!Player that moaned about rigged mm existed 5 years ago and will exist 5 years from now. Nothing to see here
>>332551810
I don't understand the mechanics: The post.
>>332552230
>T-50's ridiculous ricochets
It's got fucking 45 mm armor how the fuck does it do it
>>332561523
>B2
>Slower than the t95
>Unable to penetrate even tier 3 tanks
>Huge hitbox
>Gross
There is a reason that you don't get into tier 5 matches
>>332570748
I guess we have to respectfully agree to disagree. 10k battles would be my experience, and I've also played with some of the best players on the Na server.
I've got to say that, rigged or not, the company that made the game is pretty clever on how to keep the players on the grinding treadmill and how to milk the majority of the players. Of course, one might argue that only weak players pay and the solution is to get better, but so far I've noticed that most youtube players that are good at it pay regardless (ammo, prem tanks etc).
>>332572718
>is pretty clever on how to keep the players on the grinding treadmill
Nah, the company consists of retards who have no idea what they are doing. The players are just even bigger retards with money.
>>332572718
They took Free2Play model to the next level, this is what our gaming future will mostly look like if we don't expose and stop big guys like Wargaming.net. All others will be inspired by their success and start making their own super-efficient money farming games. DLC are joke comparing to this stuff. It is maybe already too late.
>everyone making guides, wiki's, game mechanic pages, trying to boost their wn8 or win rate, etc.
>hundreds of "top tier" players that stream or make videos of themselves playing
>lots of unicums who have quit the game out of frustration
But no one can share a single piece of actual evidence of anyone doing something to manipulate the rigged system besides anecdotal bullshit and failure to understand basic game mechanics like matchmaking weight? I want to see the voodoo.
And OP just screencap the important parts, your post style makes it seem like you're just trying to stir shit. If it's just that thread you could have dumped everything within the first 10 minutes of the thread being open, it's not that fucking hard.
>>332573767
I shared stuff here after the person on WoT forum wrote them and added some of my views and interpretations. I can't foresee future
People play this game?
>>332574731
It's still gaining players. Console versions are very popular in the US too
What is the difference with Blitz?
>>332575359
Pretty much the same shit, separated from other versions. Ported and optimized for smartphones for maximum profit!
Well, his thread will probably deleted and this thread here will be gone as well. I hope we learned something from this and some action has been taken. Let us try not to allow big gaming companies to scam the fuck out of but instead provide quality and fair games that we will be actually glad to play and pay for.
>>332577652
I don't think it's possible. Most online games work like this. It's how they make profit after all.
>>332577961
If big part of us were like the guy that wrote the thread on WoT forum and deleted his account, it could probably be changed, at least to some degree.
>>332561068
I still remember how my friends were making fun out of my decision to keep numerous tier 5 and 6 tanks and blasting shit about nostalgia...
... soon they were busy buying them back just to afford ammo for their tier 8 tanks
>>332578285
Well I've already stopped playing. I've kept going back but this time I'm done simply because of how time consuming it was to grind tanks.
>>332569535
>-Many good and long-term players are aware of these game mechanics and play according to them resulting in high win ratio and good stats but they won't reveal their secret to success
What is "free market economy"?
Besides, there are COUNTLESS tutorials dedicated to getting good with general tactics, specific tactics, specific maps, specific tank models and so on and forth.
>>332569535
>HURRR
>Old players are just haxors
>DURRR
>>332578940
Yup, but have you noticed that the authors of those tutorials are usually paying as well?
>>332546841
What is this weaboo shit
This is the same bullshit as the FORCED 50% shit from DOTA2 fags.
>>332579137
>HURR DURR
what is this fuckin grade school?
then again this thread is about fuckin tank games
faggots
>>332569535
This post stinks of someone who doesn't understand statistics.
How does this idiot explain good players with high win-rates?
>>332577652
>scam
but buying things from WG is completely voluntary, and they are delivered as advertised, how is that scamming?
>yfw there are people who actually play World of Warplanes
