PS4K OFFICIAL INFO DUMP
GET THE FUCK IN HERE
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462
>$399 or $499 if they decide on a better CPU
>games will be made in mind with PS4K and OG PS4 versions will have considerable sacrifices
>launch games with PS4K are God of War 4 and Deep Down (I thought this was dead)
>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades unless devs want to do it
>It will have a 4k blu ray player and will upscale games that are not natively 4k.
PC it is then
>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades
hahaha
Does this guy have any credibility
>>332545747
$500 for new ps4 is fine to me
Info by some guy who works at retail. Also the GPU is supposed to be 2X more powerful than the PS4
>hype Deep Down PS4 for 3+ years with trailers and gameplay demos
>release the game as PS4K exclusive
Xbox fans may like getting cucked but not me.
If this is true then I'm out.
>>332545747
>OFFICIAL INFO
>leak
>neogaf
>Deep Down
ha ha ha nice try OP
>>332545747
>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades unless devs want to do it
At least there's a few games that already do that
>Gow4 and Deep Down as launch titles
mite b gud
What I don't get if this will be like a N3DS
>>332545840
Says he's been verified by a mod in his tag. If he were trolling the thread would have been closed.
>>332545995
>GPU is supposed to be 2X more powerful than the PS4
>price is the same as the normal PS4
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Are there people that believe this shit ?!?!
It will be a PS4 but with 4k Blu Ray support you fucking autists
Sony is so afraid Nintendo might overpower them that they are willingly committing customer suicide.
You can't write irony this good.
>>332546015
Wouldn't be surprised if they released 720p version on original PS4.
>OG PS4 versions will have considerable sacrifices
#4theplayers
>considerable sacrifice
Jesus christ, consoles are becoming PCs now, you have to upgrade every 3 years to play the best version of a game.
Fuck this, I might be going exclusively to Mac
>>332545747
Sounds fake, but would a 4k PS4 be just... a 4k capable PS4? Just a resolution upscale?
Diminishing return is already a thing
>>332546065
Games with unlocked framerate would get some improvements I guess. Like new Hitman.
>>332545747
I just bought a PS4 and now I have to go back and return it?!
>>332546257
You should have seen this coming when console games started having to be installed and have day one patches
>>332545747
Still think it's bullshit. You don't need a new blu-ray player for 4k. PS4 can play 4k if software update is made. New model will probably just have that expansion that comes with VR installed in the system.
PS4k is just a PS4 with the little box of PS VR included or integraded.
Most probably is that some games will use this, but just like an optional feature.
Every PS4 owner got C UCKED
Its ok when Sony does it
>>332546251
>yfw sonyggers were BTFO by their own masters
Power 2 the peasants XD
>>332545830
>unless devs want to do it
They must change the code, do you know?
So it's the exact same console but with a very expensive blu ray player? Are they at least improving the fps to 60?
>yfw PCucks get BTFO and their shit platform is going to die
>considerable sacrifices
If this means the OG Ps4 will drop its price then I welcome it
>>332546389
I thought the HDMI itself is incapable to do 4K because of inadequate bandwidth. It's HDMI 1.4 right? PS4K will be HDMI 2.x
>>332545747
DELETE THIS
If this is true fuck Sony. I just bought PS4 3 months ago.
>>332545747
Does this count as the next generation of consoles? I mean I heard microsoft is going to be doing something like this to with xbone upgrades and nintendo is making their new console so I think this is the end of current gen
>>332546519
>he think tech for 500$ can do 60 fps
lmao
>>332546519
Not natively, only if a dev decides to do the extra work to optimize for the new console
>>332546582
Why?
It seriously has no fucking games
>>332546476
Why would existing games not just benefit from the increased power? Unless this is some vsync frame-locking thing
>games will be made in mind with PS4K and OG PS4 versions will have considerable sacrifices
AND THIS IS THE COMPANY YOU PUT YOUR FAITH IN!?
>>332546234
>Sony is so afraid Nintendo might overpower them that they are willingly committing customer suicide.
Is this what Nintendo fans tell themselves to sleep at night?
>Got a PS4 for Deep Down
>They moved it to PS5
fucking sony
>bought a ps4 6 months ago
The fuck? It's already a fucking paperweight? Not even the Wii U died this quickly.
>>332546609
If anything, this just makes this gen as powerful as it should have been from the outset. PS4/Xbone were both absolutely pathetic spec-wise, they both either had to release upgrades or face a near decade of technological stagnation.
>>332545747
Why is Sony pulling a Nintendo? N3DS was dumb. This is dumb and it's even worse cause it's a home console.
>Sony abandoned his console BEFORE NINTENDO
You cant make shit shit up
>>332546389
>PS4 can play 4k if software update is made.
PS4 uses HDMI 1.4, which supports 4K only up to 24Hz, meaning it would have use only in movies.
Considering they want to promote 4K, they would have to make UI smooth and games, even when just upscaled to 4k, would have to use 60Hz, which HDMI 2.0 supports.
>>332546690
Everyone loves Nintendo and its 3DS, tho.
Companies are assholes.
>>332546695
The only reason the PS4 sells so much is that it claims to be the most powerful console on the market.
Also, Sony has always tried to steal Nintendo's thunder. For fuck sakes when they revealed PSVR they fucking stole Nintendo Land
>>332545747
but I already paid 500 dollars to play BB, didn't fromsoft say they are making two games for sony? Am I really gonna have to throw down another 500 just to play it without " considerable sacrifices"?
>>332546682
Because in console development games are designed specifically for a certain hardware combination. If the hardware changes the game is not optimised for it and it might even run worse even though the hardware is better. Look at some of the Xbox One BC titles.
>need to buy a new console for my wife's son
What about people that already own PS4s.
>>332545747
>http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1202462
OK news overall, no need to sell old PS4.
The sacrifices part is already what we get from AAA multi-plats on PC.
Nothing will change for original PS4 owners, just that PS4K will give a slightly better experience for those who want it.
>>332546921
We're getting the downgraded version.
Who else is totally on the fence about this!
>>332546653
Earth Defense Force.
This sounds pointless.
>>332545747
>OG PS4 versions will have considerable sacrifices
Yep, I'm selling this fucking console, waste of money, should've just stuck with my Wii U + PC set up.
post yfw sonyggers are forced to buy a brand new machine to stay relevant.
>>332546857
>that pic
Please tell me someone doesn't believe this
you can hardly even buy just a gpu for $500 that can reliably play 4k games
>>332546921
All PS4 games will be getting downgraded versions.
>Over 35 million PS4s have been sold
>release what amounts to a new console when there's hardly anything on the PS4 and an entire generation of gamers grew up thinking 8 year console cycles were the norm
There's just no way Sony is that fucking stupid, right? I mean, I've screwed up so many times by now in my life that buying a PS4 is basically just the juice of the cherry on top of my turd sundae, but I can't imagine these guys are seriously ready to just shit all over such a huge segment.
I kind of want it to be true so I have an excuse to just say goodbye to console gaming forever, because the 7th and 8th have pretty much ruined everything about it, and even I can't justify consoles anymore.
Currently using my brand new ps4 to play peggle
>>332546875
Right but isn't this not supposed to be some sort of massive hardware architecture revision? It's not like going from PS3's cell shit to PS4.
If that isn't the case then this is basically just PS5
The 4K thing only applies to AAA garbage games so I'm not worried
>tfw waited for a PS4 because only Bloodborne was worth getting
Glad I waited.
Now I can play P5, KH3, Nier2, and FF15 in better quality.
>>332546052
>>OFFICIAL INFO
>>leak
>>neogaf
Do you not remember Bloodborne anon?
And the huge XBONE leak before it came out.
Neogaf is filled with shithead SJW yes. But they get a lot of leaks.
>>332546363
>gaming
>mac
lol
also
>Gaming on a platform by the same people that makes the MOST fragmented platform that forces you to buy a new iphone every 1-2 years
You must REALLY like the taste of shit.
Question: does PS4 even have music player yet?
>>332547016
>PCucks buy new graphics cards every year
"Wow I love being part of the PC master race xD"
>Sony offers a mower powerful PS4 after 4 years
"FUCKING SONY RUINING VIDEO GAMES"
>>332547021
I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
>oh no nintendo might steal our spotlight soon if they release the NX with 2-3 first party games
>lets release a PS4.5 fuck our customers
>GENIOUS
>all those cucks in the GAF thread saying "Day one buy!"
Imagine being this whipped by a corporation. Christ.
>>332546476
no they wouldnt you fucking mongo
>>332547103
>Do you not remember Bloodborne anon?
I remember the other 364 days of the year where the same source just shit itself
>>332546815
There's no reason to add 4K support for videogames. No console in the nearby 10 years is going to play videogames in 4k (I guess you can make some shitty 2D games they shit out on PS Plus to work in 4K, but nobody will notice the difference)
>People forgets about the New 3DS
It's the same fucking shit, and a lot of you bought a New 3DS, that didn't even came with significant advantages.
Why is it okay if it's Nintendo?
>People actually believing they'd release "twice as powerful GPU for same price as the original PS4
>>332545747
So are they just going to cuck everyone who bought a ps4 already?
Day one buy baby!
>>332547156
Joke on you, my 4 years old 7950 runs every console game in better quality and framerate than PS4.
>>332547056
Were where you during all of the previous generation?
Sony is incredibly fucking stupid
GOD OF WAR 4?? GOD OF FWAR??? GOD OFWOUR???? GODFWOUR?????
>>332546738
You should try reading.
>>332547198
Why not? The dye shrink happens this year. PS4 will be three years old come Fall.
>>332547080
>>332546930
HOLY SHIT THIS DAMAGE CONTROL
THIS IS GLORIOUS
>>332545747
>4k
I don't believe they will deliver this on games where it will really matter
enjoy your crisp HD 2D animu pixelshit top down dungeon crawlers though
>yfw we get "hd" versions of games already on the same console
>>332547075
Older games did not improve in performance as more CPU cores were made available. Only if they were patched. So a new APU will not automagically improve performance on older titles either.
Another downside of consoles.
>>332546930
You will get 15 fps versions on regular basis and everyone will blame you instead of developers.
>>332547213
#4theplayers :^)
I think Sony is getting arrogant again. This is some "power of cell" shit. I hope it bombs.
>>332546532
wake me up when my mobas get onto ps4.
>>332547268
GOD OF W4R
Here's my problem: The PS4 will have sold 50-60 million by the time thing thing launches. Why would they dick over such a large audience by "sacrificing" the game performance on their console of choice?
I can't see this happening unless Sony has gone full retard again
>>332547172
>>332546857
Hopefully this doesn't really go the N3DS route where some games perform worse making you feel compelled to upgrade.
But I'm about make 6 figures so fuck it I'll be a corporate slave.
>>332547024
this
Oh god.
What if the NX is forced to fight the PS4k?
Would the NX have a chance unless people get pissed at Sony?
Sony with the mask off.
Sony is the worst thing that has ever happened to gaming. Their only contribution has been as a leading platform where third party games congregate and frankly, anyone can fill that role.
>>332547156
>every year
console cucks actually believe this.
>>332547213
Considering most people who bought a PS4 for FIFA and such Im pretty sure they would't really care about this
It is a bogus rumor. Has to be. Like how delusional is Sony to think people will fork over nearly 1000 for VR and a new console. It is bullshit.
If there's extra processing power will devs be mandated to only use it for resolution?
>>332547351
GOD OF PLAYSTATION FOUR
>>332547183
You missed the word "upscale". People just want to see in top corner "3840×2160" and that's enough. Same was with PS3, when people claimed game is 1080p, because display info said so.
>>332547189
Because the n3ds doesn't cost as much as a $500-$600 machine
>>332547361They steal everything else from Nintendo. What makes you think they won't steal that?
If this is real it's gonna be the fucking end of the console market. Get bent, Sony.
>>332547378
>NX finally releases
>behind X1.5 and PS4.5
they just can't catch a break
Lol this is ridiculous, am I in an imaginary dimension where 4k gaming is accessible to $500 hardware? It's going to be at the minimum $1000, I think $1500 is probably even more realistic.
>>332547024
>upscaled gaems = 4k
>>332547024
Who says that those games are going to be in 4k? Maybe they'll finally consistently hit 1080p/60fps now.
They will market VR so much
SO MUCH
That everyone will run to buy a PS4.5 to play VR properly
>>332546231
I don't believe this but I do believe owt to maintain a solid framerate would be nice for shit like bf4 where it goes to sub 30 FPS if I use a filter on my TVs
>>332547437
Yes, that doesn't mean it's right.
>>332547172
I know Nintendo fans are butthurt about Sony stealing their thunder but this stuff is simply golden haha.
>>332547178
No the source was correct. Pic related.
It wasn't at the TGS the first time because it wasn't ready. I'm sure you will say EXCUSES.
But people were shitting on it during the E3 demo, so it musta been in shit shape 7 months before the E3 it was revealed at and played behind closed doors.
>Next gen starts this christmas with the NX and PS4k
Holy fuck was this the shortest gen cycle ever?
>>332545747
I seriously don't understand what's so bad about this.
Consoles look like shit because out dated hardware was put into them. $400 for something twice the power of the ps4 seems like a good deal.
Mustards spend that much money every couple of years to buy the newest gpu or cpu . This isn't different.
>>332546930
「THE SPIN」
>>332547056
You forget this is how stupid Sony normally is, the PS4 only succeeded because it wasn't as bad as the other consoles so it was the best choice for console gamers
>>332546231
Ignoring the software side of it to have 2x the pwoer of the existing ps4 gpu (which is more or less a 7870) you'd be looking at around 290/290x performance (on paper a 290x is effectively double of everything compared to a 7870).
I do not see AMD providing such a hardware withing a sensible, console-fitting TDP. I mean the 290x is a 250w TDP part on its own.
It certainly rules out the xbone/ps4's current APU design which was done entirely to have a low TDP to stop the innards from melting themselves.
>>332547429
people might be stupid, but not so much that it's worth the risk for sony
>>332547282
Yeah, good luck with those hopes.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
>>332547308
???
I'm actually willing to buy a PS4K
>>332547517
Or you can buy the PS VR alongside that little box.
>>332545747
>>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades unless devs want to do it
Oh boy can't wait for Bloodborne Remastered
If this is true ill be fucking pissed. Ill switch to faggot as pc before buying another ps4.
It would be fine if they did this without screwing over existing ps4 users by making games exclusive to ps4k but making og ps4 users feel like second class player for not paying again is fucked up.
>be a consumer
>get cucked
>/v/ TALKED ME INTO BUYING A VAPORWARE MACHINE 1 MONTH AGO
>IT'S ALREADY OBSOLETE
FUCKING SONY PIECE OF SHIT
GAMING IS THE SHITTIEST HOBBY THERE IS
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>332545747
>will upscale games that are not natively 4k.
HAHAHAHAHA
>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades unless devs want to do it
LAST OF US 4K REMASTER OF A REMASTER
>sonyggers will pay for this
EARLY ADOPTERS BTFO
>New PS4 with better hardware.
>No Killzone.
even if you don't like tha games you can't ignore the graphics (which is probably the main selling point)
I'm just finding it hard to believe any of this shit. Hopefully E3 sheds some light on it. I'll just be selling my PS4 if i'm gonna be left in the dust, I avoided buying a 3DS for that exact reason, now sony wants to do it too? Guess i'm just fucking done with video games then. Better yet, i'll stick to freeware and mobile games. those don't try to hide that they're out to suck your wallet dry.
>>332546930
>2x GPU
This is a load of bs
>>332547567
You overestimate humans.
>>332546231
PS4 is three years old though
>>332547378
>nx is actually more powerful than ps4k
screencap this i'll upload a video of me eating a bag of crows and dicks if it doesnt happen
>>332547249
Sony still more or less managed to come out on top, even if Microsoft and Nintendo fucked their shit up pretty hard.
I still suspect this is just a BR improvement to push television sales, as mentioned above, given that 4k on a PS4 just isn't going to happen in a box of that size and in the price range of a console.
However, if Sony really does release a 4k capable PS4 that is the size of a first-gen VCR with a garage fan built into it and costs 2000 USD, I will be very pleased, because it would be the dumbest shit ever and I'd never bother with Sony's bullshit ever again.
>PS4K
>Can't run 4K games
>>332547156
No one actually upgrades their card every year. I've had mine for 5 and still get 60 fps on most games.
>>332547661
>Current games will not receive any performance upgrades by being played on the newer system. Any upgrades that come would do so via game-specific patches released by developers. When asked if this was going to happen, the response was, “It’s a possibility but doubtful with the exception of a handful of games.”
Who could possibly benefit from launching these rumors?
GREATNESS AWAITS
Now buy the new console. It's #4theplayers #4k
Wouldn't this just be a PS4 with a 4K blu-ray disc drive, or is it actually getting better hardware?
Damn, i got cucked. Bought one in January. At least this will make me never buy consoles again
Thanks for beta testing a console, PS4cucks.
>>332547505
>>332547504
If theyre honestly planning to make a console thats natively 4k but downscales to 1080p just to technically be a 4k gaming console, theyre geniuses, but also the skeeviest company to exist.
>>332547000
youre not fooling anyone pcuck that doesn't have a ps4
>>332547536
I know. But it just isnt as big a deal as you make it out to be when compared to the ps4k
>>332547556
That's the point though, the only selling point for consoles is that you don't have to upgrade them for a while.
Why are you people crying? Just get a second job.
#THISISFORTHEPLAYERS
#EARLYADOPTERSBTFO
>>332546234
>nintendrones
>>332545747
I think you are lying tbqh
>>332545747
I was seriously pissed about this until I heard PS4K games will work on a regular PS4.
I mean, still fuck them for doing this but atleast it isn't as bad as it could be. I'm relieved.
>>332546618
If the game is old or looks stylized but still relatively poor, then yeah.
My crappy Thinkpad only has HD4000 integrated graphics and still runs stuff like CS:Source, Skullgirls, Street Fighter 4 etc at 60FPS and any and all indie games just fine.
Just got my bloodborne machine/overpriced paperweight 3 months ago. There's no way this is real right?
>>332547000
How do you not consider your Wii U a waste of money, then?
>>332547323
Can't wait to by HD remasters of HD remasters!
>>332545747
And with one bad decision, they throw away the gen their competition handed them.
>>332547505
Yeah right I'd gladly pay $500 for a 60fps 1080p console. This is just going to be the same thing with a nice blu ray player and maybe 1080p at 30 fps games
>>332547884
where does it say you have to upgrade?
>>332546682
The only difference is the games would stick to their framerate target better.
Consoles don't have access to their games graphical options, they have to be manually changed by devs and pushed out via updates.
I hope you guys are ready for the New PS4 to be required for the "optimal experience"
https://youtu.be/y2J98CvVau4
We already know how inept the film division of Sony is after the email leaks. Why would their videogame division be any different?
How is this credible?
>>332546582
same, got mine 2 weeks ago with bloodborne
>>332547103
Bloodborne leaked on /v/ before it did on neogaf, neocuck
That's cool and all but where the games at?
this is good for me. now I can buy a ps4 for cheap for all two or three exclusives it has that I'm interested in and play everything else on my pc.
thanks for being a shitty company sony!
>>332547021
What do you mean believe?
Its facts dude
>>332547994
It may be a matter of time. Didn't Division and that other car race game got it?
>>332548020
so much this
>>332547817
Buy the last of us 1080p remaster 4k remaster, goy :^)
The PS4 is so good at HD remakes, that the console itself is getting one.
Why all the hate? This is a common practice. The PS1, 2 and 3 had different versions too.
>>332547786
A card from 2011, yeah no pcfat.
>>332547549
>implying Microsoft doesn't want to cut the chain connecting them and the xbone as soon as they can
Pretty much everyone kind of fucked up this gen so it's not a surprise it's ending this early. Looking back, it was all terrible.
>>332547817
He ditched Sony back in 2014, though.
>>332548139
Nice.
>>332547308
XDDD LOL
>>332546015
It's not an exclusive. Read the message, all games will run on the old ps4 with compromises
>>332548139
FUCKING REKT
>>332547828
The fucking guy in the link is saying it has better internal hardware. Did Nintendo brief developers about the Panasonic Q? If it was just a PS4 with a 4K Blu-ray player, it would just be quietly released.
Wake up. Sony as a corporation has no other viable consumer electronics division. Its insurance, movies/music, and the Playstation. They want iPhone type hardware cycles to squeeze as much as possible from the goyim.
Soon you're going to be getting $75 dollar AAA games that you beat in 5 hours.
>people fell for the ps4 meme
can't make this shit up you cucks
>>332548020
You know what it means?
Welcome back, 720p.
I really love that they've gone from remastering games to remastering the PS4. It's poetry.
>>332548156
So because they've done shitty things before we should be okay with them doing shitty things again?
Nah. Fuck any sonygger that defends this.
>>332546921
sony is for the players, now its time for the players to be for sony too
this isn't a one way street you know...
>>332548139
Pretty good.
>>332548210
>NINTENDO GOES MOBILE
>SONY SPERGS OUT BECAUSE OF MEME VR
>MICROSHIT KILLED XBOX
>PC HAS SHIT PORTS
AYYYYYY LMAO WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE
Can't wait for games labelled "Only on PS4K" from now on
>>332548139
Holy fuck
>>332547502
>paying over $500 for gaming
who does this
>>332548289
who cares
do you own a PS4? Do you plan on getting one?
if not, then fuck off
it's the same shit with the n3ds
>>332548102
Division Beta for console had a few options like sharpness/chromic aberration toggles but got removed in the final game.
It's doubtful they're going to get extensive options, since it would increase QA time exponentially with testers having to test how the game runs with every conceivable variation of settings.
Most likely games that launch new (and updated games) will just have various settings cranked up
>yfw PSVR is "compatible with the OG PS4" like HW Legends is compatible with the OG 3DS, ie unplayable
AHAHAHAHAH
>>332545747
HAHAHA HOLY SHIT THE AMOUNT OF PKEKS HERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE A BAD THING IS ASTOUNISHING
>>332548039
NeoGaf is such a cool place.
>People still think the PS4k is real
Every time I doubt the stupidity of consolefags they pull some shit like this.
>>332548246
>compromises
As if the PS4 wasn't already making compromises. I'm not going to play 720p sub 30fps just because I didn't shell out another 400 or so
Considering there's already a lot of PS4 titles(either exclusive or also on 3 and Vita) I wonder if those games are going to be tinkered to be playable on PS4K or something
>>332547103
Bloodborne was leaked here though
>>332545747
Sony admitting they fucked up being massive jews using underperforming hardware on the PS4 by releasing some freaky inbetween-gen console midway through the former's expected life.
Question is, will Microsoft follow suit? XBone is already worse than PS4 in every regard, including sales, so this will absolutely destroy them is Sony plays their cards well.
>>332548139
perfect
>>332548416
HAHAHA HOLY SHIT THE AMOUNT OF SONYDRONES HERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS LOOK LIKE A GOOD THING IS ASTOUNISHING
>>332548375
>60fps only on PS4K
>>332548481
microsoft is currently dropping support for the xbone in favour of w10
>>332548289
>Shitty things
>/v/ complains the console is too weak and cant run 60 fps at 1080
>Sony upgrades the system to do those things
>Wow wtf Sony >:(
You are all fucking retards.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
>>332548481
XBONE IS TOASTED! XKEKS ARE PCKEKS NOW BITCH!
>>332548481
>Question is, will Microsoft follow suit?
They were the first one to say this may be a possibility, didn't they? Wasn't that even earlier this month?
>>332548416
It is terrible, youre just too jaded to see what is going on. Theyre likely going to make a native 4k console that downscales to 1080p to play games, just to say that they have a 4k capable console.
>$399 or $499 if they decide on a better CPU
So they're going to be selling this shit at a loss? What the fuck, how is this bullshit even credible?
>>332548368
Microsoft is making another xbox, they just have semi-competent people at the helm this time and will probably push hardware and x-compatibility
>>332548375
*also on PC
>>332545747
>launch games with PS4K are God of War 4 and Deep Down
>GoW4
E3 is looking a lot more interesting.
>>332548368
This. You WILL get cucked no matter the platform.
Fucking unfinished games and shit consoles is going to kill gaming.
>>332548617
>microsoft
>semi-competent
after the blunder that was windows 10, you must be joking
>Sony will cause the next great gaming crash all because they got greedy and didn't want to be upstaged by Nintendo
What a tweest
>>332547693
wow you sure have a ps4 your story is very convincing!
Are Ps4 OG games not compatible with Ps4k? Do I need one console for Bloodborne and another for Deep Down?
>>332548481
No, they aren't admitting they fucked up. They feel like they've taken control of the hardware market again for good [just like they felt after PS2] and they are looking to extract as much money from the consumer as possible.
This is not a one-off "oops we made the PS4 too weak". They want 3 year [or shorter] hardware cycles. You'd have to be an idiot at this point to stay with consoles.
>>332545747
So they literally sell a new PS4 that can't even play the old titles on 4k?
Im sure they won't even play the new games on 4k, not with 30fps.
>>332545747
DEEP DOWN AND GOW4
FUCK YOU OP YOU CAN'T trick me
>>332547693
>He fell for the PS4 meme
>>332548394
>Legit defending this shit
Fuck off back to neogaf
>>332547945
It has more games than the PS4. The PS4 is my dedicated Cyber Sluts and Bloodborne machine and it's just not worth it.
>>332548603
the ps4 was sold at a loss at launch. not sure if it still is. they make profit in other ways like fucking ps+ that costs them nothing.
>tfw poor
help me
Holy shit, this E3 will be a fucking shitstorm.
Sony with the PS4k, Nintendo with the NX and Microsoft already talked about upgrading the Xbone.
Damn, I can't wait.
>$400
The GPU alone would cost more that if you wanted 4K. People really believe this?
Get ready for more confused parents
>PS4k? Like a WiiU? A new system?
>>332548603
Nah, hardware they're gonna use will be cheap anyway. Even today I doubt it costs Sony even $250 to produce one unit.
>>332548661
I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHOS BEHIND THIS
>>332548726
It CAN play old titles you fucking moron.
It's up to to the developers whether or not they want to patch it to work at its best for the PS4K.
>>332545747
POST YFW YOU DIDN'T BUY A CONSOLE
>>332548375
nah, It will probably say something like "some content/game mode requires ps4k"
Kinda like how blops3 was shipped. Take a look at the ps3 and ps4 versions.
>>332548715
I think it's going to be like N3DS
The games would be compatible but they are going to take a hit in performance like what happened to HW
>>332548716
This this this
You think nintendo got full of themselves in the 90s?
Sony was always worse
If you're going to make the GPU 2x stronger and have a new CPU, it's just a new fucking console. Fuck this shit if it's true.
>>332548570
Welp. I got cucked bought a PS4 on february. And in my piece of shit of a country it's really fucking expensive.
>>332545747
Fucking nice. I'll buy it when it comes bundled with Bloodborne 4K or something.
>>332548715
Splintering the library like that would be an act of complete retardation. Probably just a difference in visuals/performance at most.
>>332548715
It'll share the same catalogue, but the PS4K will do everything better.
>>332545747
>God of War 4
Fake
no point buying a ps4 just yet, right?
I was interested in a PS4 but don't have the money.
Now I can safely save for this shit instead. I want my Bloodborne and KoF machine, please and thanks.
>tfw bought used Wii U but only own 2 games for it
>tfw I actually enjoy it
>God of War 4
What the fuck can he even kill?
>>332548765
PS4 was sold for profit from day 1. So was XB1.
>>332548760
I don't even own a PS4, the Vita is way better.
But you must be a moron if you don't think this is anything new.
>>332548812
>can't even play the old titles on 4k?
>on 4k
>ON 4K
My brother (normalfag) got a ps4 from his ex girlfriend as a gift, and I used it to play mgs5 and bloodborne. I've been playing on PC ever since but I'm thinking of buying a ps4k. Always been a fan of consoles.
>>332548918
Himself.
>>332546951
Will it be downgraded or will the PS4k version be upgraded?
The old PS4 version will still be on par with the XB1 version.
Say it with me guys:
IT'S OKAY WHEN SONY DOES IT
>A 4k capable gaming device for 400-500 dollars
WHO THE FUCK IS STUPID ENOUGH TO FALL FOR THESE RUMORS.
Kaz confirmed it. Shits real.
>>332548904
nah
be a smart patient bear
gonna get a ps4 when no man's sky comes out
this new ps4.5 comes out way later
thx sony
>>332548974
Yes, you can.
It just upscales the game to 4K, faggot.
>>332545747
Sony's just alienating the 30 million people who still have the original PS4.
Unless Sony does this PC style and sells the CPU and GPU separate from each other, not having the consumer throw $399-$499 at them just for a new CPU and GPU.
>>332548592
And I would be completely okay with that. However if framerate and overall performance is affected then I'll fucking hate Sony forever.
>>332548812
>upscale
>>332548784
Where do you PC fags get all your money? Give me some desu.
I want to know if the built in upscaler is better than the upscaler built into your average TV.
>>332548946
>IF YOU THINK THIS IS ANYTHING NEW
Never said I thought it was anything new. I said it's shit they did it then, and it's shit they do it now.
>>332548765
>>332548805
http://allthingsd.com/20131119/teardown-shows-sonys-playstation-4-costs-381-to-build/
Not sure about other companies, but selling expensive hardware at a loss and mostly relying on subscriptions doesn't seem like the greatest idea.
>>332549010
Devs will mainly develop for PS4K but a downgraded version of that will be available for the original PS4.
>>332549098
So it can't. Good.
#4theplayer
>>332549075
something you need to realize
people are both believing this shit, AND defending it
>>332548847
>Sony was always worse
To be fair, at least Sony doesn't have to rely on first-party titles to sell their consoles nowadays because they fucked third parties in every possible way back then. Nintendo really fucked up with that one.
>>332549102
people will buy it anyway. sony got away with charging idiot customers twice. BASED SONY EVEN JEWS ARE APPLAUDING! SONY OUTJEWED MICROSHIT AND NINTENDO!
>>332548773
This gen will last max 3 years more. Soon after Sony fucks up everything, they'll be begging You to take PS4 for free
>>332545747
>"4k" at 20fps
i'd rather watch a fat man's ass gyrate for 30 minutes instead
>>332549146
I havea job
>>332548039
>Bloodborne leaked on /v/ before it did on neogaf, neocuck
Wrong.
Here's the timeline
>rumors of exclusive souls on PS4 from >>332547547
>/v/ says bs
>rumors keep happening
>early 2014 pictures are posted here
The rumors happened way before the pictures were posted here.
If you were a no life loser like me, you would know better.
>>332549189
>upscaling it means you can't play old titles
Please be joking.
>>332548773
your not alone bro
>>332549223
Sony couldn't rely on first party titles even if they wanted to.
>>332549075
It's gonna upscale to 4k, not natively display 4k.
Surely I'm not the only one that realizes these threads are being made by Sex Genie.
>>332549316
That sounds like an even bigger ripoff
>>332549168
Say that about PS3. It was a fucking catastrophe.
>>332545747
>4K
>$399 or $499 machine
Sony is fucking done
>>332549354
How?
>>332549284
>he still didn't get it
YOU CANT PLAY NATIVE 4K WITH OLD TITLES
>>332545830
>MUH 60 F PEE ESS
Feels good to not suck at video games
>>332549354
and people will still buy it. kek.
>>332549354
That's the goal.
>>332545747
Fuck sony, im selling my ps4 before e3 since no one in my country will learn about ps4k after that. Im never buying another console again.
>>332549010
>Will it be downgraded or will the PS4k version be upgraded?
That would depend entirely on how well it sells in contrast to the base PS4
>>332549354
Well it is Sony
IT'S NOT FAIR! I BOUGHT A PS4 BECAUSE I THOUGHT SONY WAS #4THEPLAYERS. NOW THEY TURN AROUND AND JEW ME!!
DELETE THIS
>>332549316
What the fuck? You mean you can't connect normal ps4 to 4k tv and play games there? I think you're full of shit.
>>332546880
Black Friday
Buy shit for him and her.
>>332549410
Who the fuck gives a shit?
That's up to the developers, Sony has no part in what they do.
Don't like it? Complain to the devs.
>>332549102
Sony can't sell the CPU and GPU separate. Those components are integrated into a single APU on the PS4 to lower power consumption and manufacturing costs.
They aren't going to let anyone upgrade individual components. They want iPhone type upgrades. You have to buy an entirely new, locked down unit from them at accelerated intervals. They will immediately begin making sure all new software runs like garbage on the old machine while still technically allowing the games to run.
>>332548139
my sides
I was almost bitting and then i remembered April 1st is friday.
should i even care if i only have a 1080p led?
>>332549546
>its ok to buy a new ps4 that cant do anything unless the devs want to
>>332549598
nope. dont bother. only 4k masterrace.
This is pretty awesome actually, Sony is showing they really are 4(K) the players with these badass upgrades. Can't wait, only poorfags bitch about it
>>332549385
Is any part of their company doing great?
Last I heard, their TV division was doing poorly and their Vaio laptop branch was closed.
>>332545747
>existing games wont get 1080p 60FPS upgrades unless devs want to do it
this is the only reason I care about the new PS4
if old games don't see any improvements I don't see the point in getting one unless there's exclusives for the new model
>>332549405
because it's 1080p upscaled to 4k, not native 4k.
consoles won't be doing native 4k anytime soon. at all.
>Believing this shit
It's the NX leak all over again.
>>332549567
Nips don't do April Fool stuffExcept NIS
>>332549632
That's what Sony consoles were always about.
>>332549263
>a job
How do I get that
Why would anyone buy a console in 2016 and onwards.
Only nintendo has an excuse, every worthwile game for Sony will come to PC sooner or later
>>332545747
>Related info from a meeting we had yesterday was waiting for it to be approved before posting.
Who is this fag anyway? This is as legit as those NX spec threads that are posted here.
>>332549648
Only their gaming division thanks to the PS4
Kind of the opposite of MS where only the Xbox has lost them money
>PCucks always shitting on consoles because they cant be upgraded for better graphics and performance like their PCs
>Sony changes this
>Desperate PCucks trying to make this look like a bad thing
My fucking sides. You faggots are so nervous consoles can catch up to your gayman pcs now. Sony is going to literally kill PC gaming with this. They just changed the game.
>>332549648
It was sold , not closed. And yeah, Sony is doing good lately. Only mobiles are shaky.
>>332548479
Bloodborne was leaked on GAF
It's just that all the media content, screenshots, video were leaked on /v/ since its practically untraceable.
>>332549741
>only nintendo
i always forget this place is pretty much NintendoGAF.
>>332549737
have 5 to 10 years experience in whatever entry level retail position you're applying for
>>332549548
Damn those jews are clever
>>332549405
Because upscaling 1080p to 4K will just make things look really bad?
>>332549763
Sony is going to kill themselves with this. Sony's locked down ecosystem isn't valuable enough to push upgrades like this.
Sony won again?
Fuck
>>332549425
Oh you do suck, it's just cinematic sucking
>>332549807
Just saying
Nintendo games will not come to PC ever
>>332549850
Worked for Nintendo.
>japs having problems getting their people to even buy the PS4
>now splitting up that measly player base
Safe to say that this move was done exclusively for the west. I doubt many jap developers are going to sink time into doing the PS4K optimizations
>>332549759
What about their movie branch? I'm guessing that's also doing well. What with all the marvel films coming out.
I'm definitely gonna buy one. Gonna pawn off my meme970 as soon as possible.
>>332549763
you left out the part where sonyggers paid 400$ for deprecated hardware and played two and a half decent titles on their next gen machine.
>>332549223
Third-parties are fucking shit these days anyway.
Who gives a fuck if EA or Ubi isn't making games on a console, their games are TRASH
>>332549950
There's emulation so fug off
>>332549965
Did it? Did it really?
I'm fucking done with console.
Holy shit. To think I've waited 10 years for FFXV only to be late playing it while waiting for a PC version that might never come.
Fuuck.
Why do people care so much, most 4k TVs cost more than the system itself, and not even every game is 4k, there is also the very large chance that all of this is complete bullshit
If the GPU is 2x powerful, would that make it a 3.6Teraflop GPU?
>>332549741
>every worthwile game for Sony will come to PC sooner or later
are you still waiting for that Demon Souls port son?
>>332545747
I think it's bullshit. There's no way they would risk the anger of 15 million people who bought a now out-of-date console and barely any games. They're stupid, but not that stupid.
Maybe it would be something like a dongle that can somehow improve graphics via USB, maybe something that goes in between the PS4 and the VR/Screen
>>332549965
Where?
>>332549850
It'll look very similar to 1080p screen of the same size. Each rendered pixel would equivalent of exactly 4 pixels so it won't be blurry. Similar to jump from pre-4 iPhones to iPhone 4.
>>332550049
Wii games are upscaled 480p to 1080p. No one complained.
>trade in old ps4 and pay 100 dollars to upgrade
>memory transfer for free
There, Sony won and this seals it. No one would spin this as a bad thing
>>332549224
Sonyggers are going to buy into it because of better hardware. It costs so much that consumers realize that they bought a new CPU and GPU in a plastic box for $399-$499.
Sonyggers will then go to Xbox because of shitty prices, just like in 2006.
Screencap this.
>>332548910
i like my recently bought wii-u too
the fact that i can now play wii games as well has me excited
>>332550085
Ive never played a souls game and I have no intention to.
>'Sony is not owned by jews' they said
>>332547757
There's only so much you can do on an APU
>>332549793
no it was leaked on /v/ first
I'm so tired of these fake "leaks."
>>332549763
SONY FUCKING WANTS THEIR VR ON PEECEE WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NIGGA?
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/gaming/playstation-vr-sony-pc-compatible-compatibility-release-launch-date-price-a6957731.html
>>332550117
this
>controller breaks and console made obsolete barely a year after purchase
thanks Sony
>He still believes Neogaf "leaks"
>>332550018
>2 half decent titles
>implying
Pic related its my PS4 collection. As you can see that is way more than just 2. I got my moneys worth.
>bought ps2 in 2004
>still playing it to this day
>bought ps4 last month
>it's gonna be obsolete soon
can't say i didn't deserve it for not staying on pc
Gaming sure did went to shit after 2010-2011
>>332550104
People had to update their apps to take advantage of the Retina Display though. Anything that wasn't properly updated looks pretty bad. This was even more obvious when the switch to Retina Displays happened on Macs.
>>332550031
>almost an entire generation later
>still can't play most 360 games without it crashing at the menu
Emulation is fine and all but it isn't worth waiting this long
>>332545747
this is the dumbest and shittyest gamble sony's gaming have ever taken god damned.
>>332550270
Please tell me this is bait.
>>332550270
Any good RPGS on PS4?
>>332550283
You mean after 2006 or so.
>>332550252
Neogaf leaks has been pretty accurate in the past.
>>332549425
Lmao console fags will make the fps argument about anything but fps
>want 60fps? Must suck at games
>want 60fps? Wow do u even like games?
I guess waiting to buy a PS4 is paying off.
Sony has been fucking steamrolling this generation. So listen here, you little cucks. Bull the fuck up and get yourself a PS4K when it comes out.
You know damn well they're going to remaster every single PS4 game for this and sell it at a premium price.
>>332550086
>There's no way they would risk the anger
Why not? With MS porting everything to PC and Nintendo looking shellshocked, Sony doesn't think they have any real competitors anymore.
All that money they lost on the PS3? They aren't going to just magically make it all back. They are going to start selling profitable on day one APU consoles and just forcing you to upgrade more rapidly to combat the "underpowered" talk.
>>332550002
All their superheroes movies failed after Spidey 3. Amazing Spider-Man was trash. Ghostbusters looks like trash. Foodfight looks like trash. MiB vs Jumpstreet is honestly the only decent thing on their plate according to those leaks from a year ago
>DOUBLE GPU PERFORMANCE
IT'S LITERALLY A NEW CONSOLE GENERATION!
>>332550086
Its a going out business decision. Even worst that what Microsoft did. Ill put myself as an example. I have bought every ps console from 1 to 4. If they fuck like this IM OUT.
>>332550117
Sony would win a fucking eviction notice on their door if they did that
>>332550283
more like 2007. Remember the creation of tumblr, reddit, BAZINGA, portal in 2007?
This was all foretold
>Consoles will slowly become more and more like PCs
>One day consoles will be no more
Why does Sony always go full retard when they are in the lead?
>>332549548
They're still completely alienating and neglecting the 30 million users still using the original PS4.
This has to be an elaborate hoax, because this would be a shitty economic and business decision by Sony. They're doomed to repeat the same thing they did in 2006.
>>332550270
PC KEKS BTFO
>>332550336
>>332550283
Just like this place.
If I was to build a high-end PC now, how long would it be until I would have to upgrade it?
I'm thinking about joining the master race (or getting the NX)
>>332550318
you know fully well that people will eat it up
>>332550117
>$100
My parents won't pay that.
>>332550370
I don't want Sony to die though.
>>332550116
>Wii games are upscaled 480p to 1080p
Yeah, if you plug it into an HDTV.
>>332550085
Oh wow, a game.
holy shit cant wait for god of war hd collection 4k remaster
>>332550318
hot fuccboi
>>332550352
Shut up Smellody
>>332545747
>PS3
>gets silm version after 3 years
>lower power consumption
>better look
>games from "fat" version are running normally on slim too
>PS4
>gets 4K version after 3 years
>upscaled 4k
>games from "fat" version dosen't take advantage of the new version
>>332550397
MICROSOFT WENT FULL RETARD AND SHILLS FOR WIN10
NINTENDO WENT FULL RETARD AND IS GOING MOBILE
YOU CANT WIN WE ALL LOSE DONT YOU GET IT?
>>332549850
The benefit of 4K is that it fits 4x the amount of pixels perfectly. So every pixel in 1080p will fit in 4 pixels at 4K. It will look the same as native 1080p would. (The 4K capable console tripe is just marketing.)
The reason upscaled stuff looked bad usually is because they're upscaling 1 pixel into subpixels, something like 1.25, 1.5, 1.66 etc for every 1 pixel.
>>332545747
>Fucks existing PS4 owners with poor performance in new games
>No upgrades for old games, why would devs bother when they got their money already and the games aren't selling anymore
>Input lag due to upscaling
Sounds pretty bad, honestly. N3DS didn't fuck anyone who had an old 3DS beyond not getting a Wii port, games don't intentionally run like shit so get people to buy the new model.
>>332550470
Why would you NOT use an HDTV? I'm also referring to the Wii U's native Wii support.
>Nintendo pulls this shit with three of their handhelds and the N64
>Thank you Ninty!
>Sony do it
>HAHAHA SONYGGERS BTFO
I'm not on board with this garbage whoever is pulling it, they can all fuck off. I dropped the 3DS the instant they announced the N3DS, and I'll be dropping PS4 if this shit is official.
>>332550497
Stay cucked, Xboy.
>>332550436
There is new GPU architecture coming out this or next year. Top off the line now would probably last maybe 3 years ?
>>332550336
It did but after that it even went worse.
I seriously don't remember any half decent games that came out on 2012 and 2014.
And the AAA titles are just unfinished rehashed bullshit with bad pc ports and poor quality on consoles.
I mean what the fuck are these corporates are thinking?
Fallout is gone Assasin's Creed is gone Battlefield is gone. I am seriously losing hope and it's so sad.
>>332550346
You're willfully engaging in a console war whileallegedlyover the age of 18 anon.
>>332550270
>2 version of NBA
>CAWL DOOTY
>BF Shit
>Minecraft
>BR Soccer
>Thiaf
Boy you showed us all those awesome games. 4 the players. amirite fellow gamer?
POST YFW YOU WASN'T TRICKED INTO BUYING PS4
>>332550436
I've been having the same system for a couple of years now (which wasn't even top end when I bought the parts) and I still don't see any reason to upgrade
>>332550252
When did this place stop believing in neogaf leaks?
For starters they're much more reliable than /v/ since you are verified and banned otherwise. I can make a thread right now on NX features and specs and reach the bump limit
>>332550326
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't good.
>>332550527
alright jeez stop yelling at me
>>332546389
You are retarded and doesn't know anything about tech. Get out.
>>332550352
>tfw fell for the $299 deal during the holidays
I hope they at least have some sort of deal when I can trade my OG PS4 to get the new model for a lower price like when the N3DS came out.
>>332549701
They do Fox Day
Wow that's pretty jewish, glad I waited on getting a PS4. Almost feel sorry for the stupid faggots who got it at launch.
>>332550270
>all shit
>all shit
>all shit
>all shit
>>332547175
if you can't afford a new PS4 you're probably russian or brazilian
>>332550582
Same guy forgot something. The only game i enjoyed in 2012 was dishonored.
>>332550559
The games from older version wasn't working on the new one?
When will this 4K meme die?
>inb4 it turns out that the original PS4 has hidden backwards compatibility with PS3 leading to people buying up the original PS4 like hotcakes
Watch it be true faggots.
>>332550617
>Just because you like them doesn't mean they are good.
>>332545747
stupid idea tbqh
If I'm going to buy a console, it's not going to be for graphics
>>332550527
The only retard here is you for thinking there won't be another Xbox
>>332550370
Shit man. I thought they were doing decent. And by the looks of it I'm guessing there has also been some downsizing.
>>332550451
Name ONE (UNO) good thing that came from Sony though, directly from Sony. No second parties/third parties
>>332550582
Japan died. That's what happened.
>>332550551
>I'm also referring to the Wii U's native Wii support.
That's not really the same thing, and it will obviously look bad because Wii games are all SD. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Wii was criticized for not supporting HD.
>Why would you NOT use an HDTV
Because Wii games will look terrible. Same thing will happen if you play PS4 games on a 4K TV.
>>332550775
XKEK HOLY SHIT THEY ARE STILL AMONG US! MORE LIKE PEECEE KEK LMAO! MORE LIKE WIN10 KEK LMAO!
>>332550676
I got it 3 years after launch and I still got cucked. I bought one for Bloodborne and had to play it at 20 fps. Few months later they announce the PS4 that runs it at 120fps and 4k with VR and AR support.
>>332550758
why would it die when it's objectively better than 1080?
>>332550559
Except games developed for 3ds are done with all in mind, not just the new one. Previous 3ds owners don't get the nice revision, but they're games don't start running like shit all the sudden because they don't have the premium model.
The ps4 just became the objectively worse experience since it will run new games poorly while everything is optimized for ps4k
>>332550769
>what are opinions
>>332550829
Ape escape?
>>332550829
SotC
>>332550767
>Watch it be true faggots.
Yeah, no. What you're saying is about as likely as Tesla revealing that their Model S was actually a internal combustion engine in secret as well.
That's not an exaggeration, by the way.
Inb4 this becomes the norm
>>332550117
>No one would spin this as a bad thing
Where do you think you are :^)
>Have to pay $60 per year
>Have to pay $60 per game
>Have to pay $400 per 3 years
Console gaming sure is cheap
>>332550401
>This has to be an elaborate hoax
Just like when Sony launched the PS3 at $600 and thought the Cell processor was going to be their ticket to dominating multimedia processing devices for the near future?
Sony wants to dominate platforms and formats. Like they did with Walkmans, and then compact disc/Discman, and then PS2/DVD, and Blu-ray. They view Cell and Betamax as near misses, not missteps.
The rise of massive storage devices at the consumer level and of streaming multimedia services is a real threat to Sony and they going to try to wring everything possible out of their grip on console gaming.
>>332547172
Microsoft did the tablet before Apple, and it ran windows not a shitty mobile OS
FUCK YOU SONY, FUCK YOU SO MUCH. IM FUCKIN POOR. IT COST ME SO MUCH TO GET MY PS4. FUCK YOU. NEVER, NEVER AGAIN.
>>332550451
If they don't fix their management issues, there's nothing else they can do.
Sony is playing you like damn fiddles.
>spread rumors of new revisions coming out
>people start selling their PS4s to save up for the PS4k
>there was never a PS4k though
>people have to buy their PS4s again
Just wait. Kaz is laughing at you already.
So who stole this idea from who? I didn't start hearing about all this ps4k shit until right after Microsoft said they might do the same thing.
>>332545747
A gtx titan can't run games smoothly at 4k
Why is this even being made?
Games will either be dumbed down tremendously or they will just not run at 4k native and will get upscaled.
so who bought a normal PS4 got screwed? man... the new ps4 has the same price, god of war exclusive and other things, sony really fucked ps4 owners
WOAH
SO THIS
NOW THIS
FOR THE GAMER
DA GOOS GUY
CARE GAMER
WOOOOEEE
>>332550746
No, but new games not exclusive to the New3DS run like complete ass on regular 3DS.
>>332550589
I don't give a shit about "the war".
Dude said dumb shit, told him he was dumb
>>332546532
pc will never die cucklet.
its the literal most expensive hardware for the best possible gaming. not peasant grade 1080p 30fps console fuckery.
>>332550941
sony is dead when it comes to mobile/laptops/tv/portable players
>>332550850
>wii games look terrible
No they don't.
I just bought a ps4 fuck. Is this going to be a ps4 successor with incompatible new games or is it just like a ps4+ with some extra power but still plays all the same games?
>YFW This rumor ends up being bullshit
>>332550829
Everybody Golf series
>>332550939
>Have to pay $2000 base for machine
>Have to upgrade each few months for $200
PC gaming sure is cheap.
>>332551015
>1080p 30fps
900p 25fps, you mean.
>>332550270
Congratulations on getting games that are available in all platforms
Fucking retarded.
The worst thing is, I don't think this is even fake. You must be 13.
>>332547172
the first tablets were out in the early 2000s-late 90s apple just put their logo on it to make them appeal to normiesjust like I'm hoping they'll do with VR
>>332550832
>>332548661
>>332550582
This. I think we really are heading for a crash if it goes on like this.
>>332548176
you do realize the 660 came out in 2012 and it's still more than enough for 60 fps on most games on a medium high mix.
>>332546251
They know they can cuck their own fanbase
They stole their Credit cards once and they apologized to Sony
For fucks sake. Sony fans are like North koreans
>>332550536
If that's the case, would developers really need to change much other than some textures?
>>332551005
>Lmao console fags will make the fps argument about anything but fps
>>332551054
The new games will run, but they will run like garbage and I would bet inside of a year you'll have games that just won't work on the old model.
>tfw they announce at e3 that this new upgraded system is also backward compatible with Ps1, Ps2, Ps3, PsP and PsVita games.
>>332547356
It's not selling another 25 million in a few months
So this is how the industry crashes and fully converts to mobile.
Nintendo might be a step ahead this time.
>>332551035
Same. Now look at what I actually wrote.
time to put the NEET life on hold
>>332545830
>implying from won't release 60fps bb and das3
>>332551220
>Nintendo might be a step ahead this time.
No
>>332550880
it's not achievable at the moment unless you're willing to pay $2000. can't wait for the new cards to be shit too
>>332551160
Yup, consolefags do that
Point?
>>332551220
This is basically Atari 5200 territory right now.
>>332545747
>399 or $499
So it'll be outdated in a year?
>>332551071
a more powerful ps4 (and xbone) DOES make sense tho. It's a jew move, but a logical one nonetheless. PS4 and XB1 was already deprecated when they launched.
Because they're essentially a PC there isn't any "hidden resource" to be used. It's not like the ps3 where they needed a few years to make complete use of the cell processor. I'm 99% sure ps4k is happening.
I have a question wouldn't releasing this cost sony billions of dollars and bad reputation this just doesen't make sense.
>>332550970
Pretty sure both Sony and Microsoft wanted to make something that could compete technologically with PCs.
Just sitting here and enjoying the [HAPPENING]
>>332551335
Sony is saving gaming.
>>332551079
>>332551218
>>332546463
its not funny shut up-
Assuming the PS4K is real, how long do you think after its release will we see "Only Playable on PS4K"?
Or just a game that's borderline unplayable on a normal PS4?
>>332551220
>Nintendo
KEK
>March 30th
>Deep Down as a launch title
I wish i was ignorant but yeah, i can't believe in this, not after many years of this.
>>332551335
People are willing to pay for better hardware
Look at the faggots who waste hundreds of dollars on a new iphone or a shitty new grafix cards.
>>332551335
For every one person who thinks like you, Sony has five fanboys who will defend it.
They have an excellent marketing team
>>332548850
It's a new console with full backwards compatibility for the previous generation.
>>332547536
N3DS doesn't hurt owners of the old model, a tiny handful of games run better in N3DS but no new games suffer on the old models. Hyrule Warriors does I guess but I'm baffled as to how they got that to run on the thing in the first place.
If this leak is to be believed, old PS4 owners will get fucked on new games, not something that applies to old 3DS owners.
>>332547828
i think the "K" stands for "kill yourself.*
>you were just born in time to get cucked by Sony
>>332545747
Bought a ps4 cause of bloodboy and some upcoming games, deep down being one of them.
When they announced it would be f2p i thought they couldn't cuck me any harder.
If this is true they are taking it to a whole new level.
But hell when has anyone on neogaf been right? They hyped up the fucking NX leak like no tomorrow and see how that turned out.
TIME TO PUT IT TO A VOTE NIGGERS
WOULD YOU BUY THIS?
http://strawpoll.me/7231196/r
>>332545747
Don't tell me my normal PS4 is going to get sub 30fps on all games because of this shit.
I blame the N3DS for this.
>>332551054
Remember the Xenoblade Chronicles port that's exclusive to the N3DS? Think of that, but with several more games. And then there's some games like Hyrule Warriors that could run on the O3DS, but you're much better off getting it on the new one instead.
>tfw its the beginning of the death of consoles
>tfw you are finally living in the age of the PC Master race
>>332550853
You are an adult (possibly) and you just typed that out
why
>>332551429
>Or just a game that's borderline unplayable on a normal PS4?
That's already been happening, bro
>>332551429
Only playable on PS4k
Within a year, max.
>Borderline unplayable on normal PS4
Very, very soon after introduction.
So are games being developed for it going to obligatory be 4K?
Is there any way for the devs to ignore that and focus and graphics and fps instead?
>>332545747
I got a PS4 just December gone...
Either way they are going to split the base. If they price the PS4k high to live along side the ps4 then devs are going to want to make game for the ps4k and the Ps4 will get the scraps. If they price it the same and stop making the old PS4 it's a huge middle finger.
Either way, I need a new hobby.
I need a new hobby
>>332550270
All Shit
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>>332549763
When I buy a new GPU I don't have to buy mobo, CPU, PSU, HDD, Blu-ray and a case with it.
>>332551553
I don't own one yet so ye
>>332547021
It's straight up facts. Are you that delusional?
>>332546234
>Nintendo a threat
lol
>>332551334
I would get the idea of Sony wanting to increase the PS4's power for the sake of giving devs more power for PSVR, the entire idea of doing it for 4K TVs is beyond retarded, they are a very small minority in the overall TV market and would hopefully be about 50% by 2020
That's why I find this whole rumor to be bullshit, everyone's running wild with the 4K idea but not many actually own 4K TVs
>>332547498
>Nintendo: "We finally made a console that can compete against our competitors, and it's stronger"
>Microsoft: "Introducing the Xbox OneK"
>Sony: "Introducing PS4K"
>Nintendo: "FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!"
:^)
>>332551365
Does it really? They will need some good new refreshing titles with very good performance in order to do that though.
Why is everyone calling it ps4k
>>332547189
No, It's not the same shit. No one would be mad about a slim ps4 that runs games better.
They care about games being optimized for another $400 dollar box that does essentially the same thing as their old one, except you need to buy it to not have a shitty experience on future releases
i wonder how many day one buyers will even have a 4k tv.
>>332550903
Horseshit, play MH4 or MHX on 3DS and get back to me, it runs like absolute garbage and the textures are worse than 3U.
>>332551707
I don't know why they're releasing a new console now when their lineup is just starting to come into fruition this year.
>Been waiting a few years for the PS4 price to go down
>This happens
REEEEEEE
>>332551753
This is why i believe this is pure bullshit.
>>332545747
Are they going to have backwards compatibility with PS4.5?
Should be a better reason to buy this instead of 4K seeing as very few people even have 4K televisions. I missed out on some PS3 games and want to play them.
>>332551561
I dunno, it isn't like the N3DS held a gun to the PS4's head and made them do this
>>332551736
Try thinking
New thread where
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
>>332551813
>>332551813
>>332551305
Underrated
>>332551736
Because 4K is supposedly the big new feature.
>you didn't buy a PS4
Assuming this is true and you already own a PS4, whats the point exactly?
Why not just sell your current PS4 and spend the cash gained + dollar worth of the new one, on upgrading your PC?
Are people really gonna miss Bloodbourne and Uncharted that much?
Not even a master-race numpty, this just seems insane to me.
>>332548394
N3DS doesn't fuck old 3DS owners with shit performance in new games, so no, it's not same thing.
>>332551351
no need. people with PC's that costed 4 times as much as a ps4 get shit FPS on to many games made by AAA developers for the past few years
watchdogs was the warning sign and batman arkham night is the last nail in the coffin for the PC gaming rig shit
i like the pc stuff because of moding but hardware is to costly and you get to little out of it on the PC
>>332551561
There was a single game developed with n3ds in mind. One game.
>>332550941
Sure, it might not be a massive fuck-ups like 2006, but the potential asking price of $399 to $499 dollars is giving many PS4 users a reason to migrate to Xbone. It would be nice if people who already own the PS4 get to purchase the PS4K at a lower price point, however, I don't see Sony ever doing this. Just like any business, they're in it for the money.
>>332551705
>Microsoft: "Introducing the Xbox OneK"
>Xbox Onek
>OneK
>1k
XBOX ONE FINALLY GETS TO PLAY GAMES AT 1080p
>>332551753
Not many.
>>332551269
>>332551432
Yes. Nintendo
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-22/nintendo-stock-jumps-as-new-miitomo-app-downloads-top-1-million
If I can trade up my PS4 to PS4k, and Xbone to Xbone2, I actually don't care.
>>332550954
Microsoft does everything before apple and gets boo'ed off stage because they are Microsoft
Then when Apple shows it they are hailed as the innovators of the industry
>>332551736
4kids
>>332545747
>OG PS4 versions will have considerable sacrifices
sonyggers on suicide watch
>>332548139
Bad joke and a bunch of samefags. Well played, nintendont
>>332551572
>tfw you are finally living in the age of the PC Master race
>with uncrackable denuvo
>with windows "we're always watching you" 10
>with every game needs to be obtained through some 3rd party service like steam,origin,etc
>with drm
>with endless dlc
I'm a PC user myself but come on it's shit on all sides m8 I wouldn't exactly be happy if consoles died because it means they can focus all their jewish actions on us
Wonder if this is just a spoiler for the NX by Sony more than something they genunely want to do.
A die-shrink could let them do a big mhz boost whilst keeping a similar level of power usage at no real extra cost.
>>332551689
oh, silly you. It's not meant to play games at 4K. 4K is a meme at the moment. I'm a PC gamer myself, but even I don't play at that resolution. A very small percentage of PC gamers actually play in 4k.
It sounds cooler to claim something is 4K capable (it will only play movies and maybe a few indie titles in actual 4K) than saying straight up that ps4 shits the bed in VR games and we need a new console.
>>332551940
>N3DS doesn't fuck old 3DS owners with shit performance in new games
Are you serious?
>>332551650
Bingo. The only benefit of consoles is a lower immediate entry price and a longer period of fixed hardware. The plug and play nature has been totally eroded with operating systems and massive installs, day one patches, etc.
At least on a PC you can hold over parts from your last build. You can also play around in the mid-range on PC and still get comparable performance to consoles, as well as having the ability to turn down settings to improve your frame rate if you want.
I wonder at which 4.whatever Sony will make you buy new controllers?
>>332552035
What are you exactly trying to prove?
>>332551971
>2 games
>Arkham knight
Honestly, who wanted to play that?
>>332551220
The industry has already crashed.
We're just in the death throws now. Sony is trying to lure in casuals with a gimmick that's never been popular as anything more then a fad that goes into and out of vogue every decade or so. They're also stupidly throwing the fucking playstation brand under the bus as a trojan horse to push something stupid that will never gain them much benefit.
Like the ps3 debacle.
This...is not looking good.
Nintendo fucked up by being too goddamned stupid to sell the system as an upgraded hdwii that shows good looking upscaled wii games, good looking first person wiiu titles, can also play modern games and it has this neat little tablet.
Sony should fucking ignore the desperate pushing of the DOA virtual reality gimmick and try to create a beyond cheap 200ish dollar sku to come out with and compete with the nintendo and reignite the family console vs hip console false dichotomy that will help push the industry.
Microsoft?
They'll be the ones that got their own thing going and be a dumping ground for indie and the top pc/steam titles.
>>332552035
We're talking about consoles right now, not phone stuff.
>>332547378
Rumours suggest that the NX is notably more powerful than the PS4.
This could just be Sony stopping Nintendo from claiming an advantage
>>332548034
Same here, just upgraded to ps4 yesterday. I buy console for the long shelf life... probably gonna quit vidya for a while if this 4k thing is a whole new console. I can't hang with these short changes familu.
>>332552035
So Nintendo's future is mobile? Amazing
>>332551940
please be bait
I just want to playYakuza 0
Should i wait or buy?
>>332552069
Exactly who you think its next when the console crash comes. And it will come if this is true. We need consoles they re the nig bait for the jews.
Sony is starting to fuck over their fanbase once again now that they're on top, when will they learn?
>>332552164
I wanted to,never did though. I might pick it up when I get of my jrpg boner
>>332550970
Microsoft never said anything about 4k support aside from Netflix a while back
unless i'm wrong then please correct me
>>332552203
>NX is notably more powerful than the PS4
Not one single rumor has said this. Everyone says it's about on par with the Xbone. Stop pulling bullshit out of your ass.
>>332552284
The game already runs at 1080/60 but just wait and see how this turns out
>>332550018
diddled even worse than nintendorks
>>332551856
>>332551912
>>332551915
>>332552054
>$499 price point
>gaming in 4k
Is this jew magic
>>332549741
>nintendo fanboy this delusional
only the most retarded plebs that are entirely delusional would believe this
>>332552306
They never learned from the PS3, sure it blundered very hard in the beginning, but in the end it still sold more than the 360.
>>332550965
They're actually starting the rumors so that they can hamper the nx rumors.
>>332545747
>implying the games are gonna be 4k.
calling it now they will once again barely struggle to redner at 1080p and maintain 60fps.
the video output will be upscaled to 4k.
this will be highly noticeable ont large tvs but not on the psvr.
on the psvr. games will render at less than 1080p to mainting 60fps and will be upscaled to fit the psvr screens.
>ps4 fags getting cucked
>I was gonna wait until nogames4 was 200 dollars but get this instead
>mfw gonna be able to play Bloodborne at rock solid 30fps while sonyggers are stuck at 15
Feels good to not be a drone and buy shitty things at launch. By the time the things actually gets more than one game, it'll probably have had a couple of price drops too.
>>332552383
Dozens of sites reported this.
http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/gaming/612975/Nintendo-NX-release-date-update-mobile-gaming-Nintendo-News
>>332547792
"Activate it"
How many of these games will get 60FPS patches?
>>332552564sauce?
>>332552904
Try 30fps patch
>>332552904
All of them as long as they can charge you for games you already own. #furtehgaymerz
>pisspoorK
>480p
>controller uses 5 triple a batteries (not included)
>bundled with bad rats 2: HD Remastered
>>332552904
Fallout 4
UnchartedKNACK, BABY
Does SFV not run at 60fps?
>>332550117
more like they give you $100 for your old ps4
they always try to jew you out on trades
>>332552915
KDE mascot doujin
>>332550551
Wii games look and play like garbage on HDTVs because they're a quarter the resolution. Same shit with 1080 to 4K, you're just stretching the images there's no new information to fill those gaps.
>>332552904
You mean 4K (Upscaled) remasters right?
>>332552904
Wouldn't surprise me if Sony largely did the work for developers if they were sensible enough to use Delta-T.
A depressing number of developers don't use Delta-T properly though.
>>332552379
I wasn't talking about 4k specifically, but a stronger version much the same way Sony is doing.
>>332552387
Maybe they will doa 4k patch.
Sega's Yakuza Studio is a fucking space castle of magic, it's something that they could pull-off without issues
>>332553342
Im crossing fingers that Yakuza 6 on PS4K runs at 60
>>332548481
>releasing some freaky inbetween-gen console midway through the former's expected life.
7th gen lasted longer than average
>>332550992
No they don't? Hyrule Warriors is literally the only example, and it's a Wii U port. Every other new game runs well on the old 3DS models, you're not missing any features and performance doesn't take an intentional hit. Developers target the old models.
Hopefully it tanks the original PS4's value so I can get a cheap MLB: The Show machine.