What was bad about Fallout 4?
literally everything
>>332523425
Pretty much all of it.
>>332523425
Game is okay, game is just not a Fallout game. They should've named this game something else.
- Terrible writing
- Terrible dialogues
- Almost no RPG elements
- Stupid design decisions
- Lousy game mechanics
- Bad retcons
- Limited Choices
- Character Roleplaying ruined
- Fallout 3-babby pandering
- Buggy
- Bad AI
- Bethesda still doesn't understand the source material
Did I miss anything?
>>332523737
stop with this fucking bullshit already
Guns dissapear when you holster them
Returned the game because of this
That's early access lazy indie tier shit
Factions are shit, base building is terrible and the happy meter is broken bullshit, plot was garbage towards the end, not many memorable missions, gunplay is okay, streamlined to hell and back.
Not a RPG
No replay value
>>332523425
Buggy as fuck I couldnt get past the part where they kill your wife game kept cashing. Then I managed to do some tweaking and shit and got past there and game crashed after leaving that refridgrator thingy and never started again so i deleted evrything and reinstalled and game wouldnt create a savegame. All that with no error messages whatsoever and google only saying update your drivers. I gave up fuck that and refunded. I might try again in future when they release more patches for their broken piece of shit.
If Bethesda care so little about delivering a quality Fallout experience, why don't they just get Obsidian to make another? That way Fallout fans get a good game and Bethesda still get the profits. Win/win.
At this point it's as thought they're just holding onto it out of spite.
I enjoyed how grindy it was because i enjoy those types of games
Story really wasn't there, almost all side quests were the same. Fuck the silver shroud side quest, shit blew.
Concept was there, just thrown together for a cash grap. Did enjoy the crafting and breaking down stuff though
6/10 IMO, maybe a 7 when all dlc is released
>>332523425
>brag and hype up your new and improved shooting mechanics
>weapon choice is small and shit
>"skyrim" tier enhancements for legendary
>grenade is same button as melee.
>can't throw mines like frisbees on teh floor anymore.
this is the first fallout game i didnt buy, been buying them since the 90s
i didnt think it was possible to make game than fo3, but damn, did they succeed..
>>332523425
I pirated it and I still felt ripped off.
>>332523891
It was because of power armor, nevermind that they could have hid the model, nevermind that it's possible to have it attach elsewhere since the entire character rig gets overridden by the power armor while you're wearing it
Someone fixed the holstering though, hope that mod improves post-GECK and when F4SE matures a bit
>>332524215
It's because they were lazy and
Mods will fix it ™
The 'conversations'.
There are a lot of things wrong with the mechanics, but by far the worst part is the dialogue system. If there's one thing a Fallout game needs it's good conversations,
>>332524095
Bethesda is so salty that Oblivion blew them the fuck out with New Vegas i doubt they'll let them make another game without mainstream popular demand. That way they know there will be money for sure.
Bethesda
>>332523525
>>332523669
Ridiculous exaggeration, I'm not saying the game is some flawless gem but come on.
>Best power armor mechanics in the series
>Best gun mechanics in the FPS series
>An actual reason to horde junk instead of throw it aside
>Survival mode is pretty gud
>>332523425
Mods won't be able to save it, they'll enhance your gameplay, add new things, throw in some sex mods but they can't save the game itself.
The game went a step forward whilst running backwards.
>>332524095
>Bethesda tier worldbuilding
>A nuke did it with its nuke magics!
>>332523425
Fallout 4 is not an RPG.
>>332523425
Was this made by the same dev team for elder scrolls or its own separate team?
>>332524520
Ah yes, the junk system, where I can build a 5foot wall out of 10 pencils
What amazes me is no matter how bad Beth's previous game is /v/ will still fall for Todd's bullshit presentations and get extremely hyped.
I expect this place to be buzzing massively when Fallout 5 comes out.
They should really let another developer make a proper Fallout Shelter.
I've hit more game breaking bugs in 4 than I did in any of the fallout games combined.
>>332523941
>missions
This is the modern fallout fan.
>>332524520
>>Best power armor mechanics in the series
>power cell works for centuries
>breaks down in power armor
>>An actual reason to horde junk instead of throw it aside
>settlement has 220 defence
>gets raided anyway
>legendary items have no unique model
>>Survival mode is pretty gud
>story and dialogues are still shit
>ending is still shit
>>Best gun mechanics in the FPS series
and its still shit compared to other fps games. wow 10/10 goty oh wait no goty for Todd the Jewish Manlet
>"im 6'2"
lmao
>all these faggots bitching about muh RPG
The game sold well and that is what matters, more proof that RPG is shit and boring
>>332524095
To me this is one of the biggest problems with modern bethshit fallout, they just don't fucking care.
>>332524985
>The game sold well and that is what matters
>>332524095
>I have no idea what suspension of disbelief is
Who the fuck let this guy become a head writer?
Seriously what the fuck I can guarantee I would do a better job with this dying series
>>332524985
>>332524597
yes it is
>>332524985
"The game made 500 billion shmeckels, so easy to please the goyim"
>>332525065
>americans are killing gaming
![L6qfAV6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WPYchNp.jpg "L6qfAV6[1].jpg")
>>332523425
absolutely nothing.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0nbBugxnfTM
>>332524958
>dat pic
I have not leld so much in a long time.
>>332524958
Game logic > Lore logic
If there was no fuel there would be no reason to not use power armour.
Settlement chance of being raided is equal to Food + Water - Defence Statistic. So if you have 400 resources but only 220 defence, yes you are going to be raided.
>>332525394
Todd is also a jew. Not even meeming.
>>332525065
kek do people seriously use character creators and spend time in them?
I usually just use the default guy and go with it unless it has something to do with skills and or perks etc.
I even chose vinilla shep when i played through mass effect.
>>332523425
The retarded settlement building system. As a straight story "rpg" it's fine. The mechanics of building a settlement ruin it.
Since it's totally optional I might give it another go and just ignore the fucking settlement bullshit.
>>332525510
>game logic
in the "game logic" nuclear powered cell is capable of lasting hundreds of years. plus npcs never change power cells or have more than one. boom. btfo. nice try Todd the jewish manlet.
>>332525693
>As a straight story "rpg" it's fine
>>332525693
>The retarded settlement building system
>all those cool extra objects not available in the final release
>have to mod them
brava bethesda
>>332524027
I slightly disagree; my second playthrough of the game was better, since I totally negated Concord, thus never meeting Preston.
As soon as left Vault 111, I went east, found some abandoned power armour w/ frame, took over Outpost Zimonja, then build a small town with a population of 9.
I also raided other settlements to further my own small town.
>>332525776
who is that ghoul?
>>332524520
I agree with you on the power armor, they finally got that right. The guns are ok and the junk system is fucking atrocious, especially with a carry weight limit, wtf man.
>>332524603
I'd wager the same. It's the same fucking engine right? Just like FO3 and Oblivion.
>>332526042
Then i truly have no hope for the next tes.
>>332526042
>the same fucking engine
Why is it so bad optimized then?
>>332523857
It's utterly true you faggot idiot, if Bethesda would've had the balls to name it something else people wouldn't have been half as critical.
I make it short.
>The good.
Power armor is good.
Virtybird transportation is good.
Not every building needs a loading screen.
>verrrrrrrrrry bad
Dialog system or the lack of it.
Every open fucking building and or closed one has food water stimpacks.
You dont think any one would have the curtecy to loot that shit?
After 200 years skeltons wrecks and shit as if the bombs did drop yesterday.
Still living in shityer houses then brasilian favela poor fags.
Cammon we have miltary checkpoints so the gov\national guard was cleaning up trying to keep the peace.
Yet all looks so shit. Crampt.
Bethseda forces that post apo shit on every one. No progress.
Hence opsidian is better. You see progress.
You are the progress.
>every thing else
Just everything in game is shit.
>>332525294
>mfw eurotrash say it's americans that are killing gaming when ubisoft is doing more harm than shittesda ever could
I can almost forgive Bethesda for ruining Fallout, but you faggots destroyed the Tom Clancy games. Red Storm used to be perfect
>>332525776
Come on, those screens are usually just from the radiant quests that are repeatable and infinite.
Not that the others are any better but slightly. Still, it's crap and there are almost no charisma checks in the whole game either
>>332524958
>>power cell works for centuries
>criticized for going against lore
>power cells work for 200 years before breaking down
>200 years later they start to breakdown
>people complain
???
>>332526173
No idea, my rig is epic so I don't notice optimization issues.
Max settings an 100fps, feels good man
>>332526726
>one power cell works all the time on Paladin Lance Vance Dance
>when you use a power cell yourself it stops working after about 10-20 minutesI don't remember anymore
Let's not forget the classic
>vertibird crashed into one of the first buildings you see in the game
>with intact power armour on top
>NO ONE throughout 200 years took it
>NO ONE
>>332526680
That screenshot isn't a radiant quest. I specifically chose one that isn't because faggot Bethesdrones like you keep steering away from the problem by \defending it on the grounds that it's radiant. But even when I post non-radiant quests you still do it anyway.
The entire fucking game is like this, your dialog choices mean literally nothing.
>>332526261
>After 200 years skeltons wrecks and shit as if the bombs did drop yesterday.
>Still living in shityer houses then brasilian favela poor fags.
This. How come no one ever cleans shit up? Minutemen are supposed to be proud and shit, they can't pick up the trash in their town? Does no one give a fuck?
>>332523425
It will be faster to list what went right.
>Combat
>monster design
>crafting
>power armor
Everything else is dogshit.
>that quest with a kid locked inside a fridge for 200 years
>>332523768
>Going into Boston made the game shit itself and overall suffered from performance issues on anything other than a god tier PC
>>332526726
yeah but npcs never change it, not to mention you can increase the duration with perks. lmao. BRAVA BETHESDA
>>332526960
Oh and the "quickloot" menu.
Really handy, the guy who thought of that is a genius.
>>332527024
>most of the game works rather fine on my not-that-top-tier PC
>running around anywhere in Boston
>shit can drop down to 0fps and stutters like a motherfucker
Finding Railroad almost made me hang myself halfway through
>>332526854
yeah, that was a big flaw, it would've made sense if like only the smarter people knew that it needed a thing called a fusion cell to use, but then you go about 20 yards away and there's raiders with power armor and fatmans
>>332526726
oh also
>buy power cells from BOS
>they last 20 min
LMAO BRAVA BETHESDA
>>332526854
>power armor doesnt consume energy whilst standing still
>get in vertiberd, sit down
>consumes energy during filght
>>332526960
>>crafting
nah crafting sucks, i spend way too much time staring at menus and memorizing shopping lists for when i'm out in the wasteland
99% of the grind goes away if you turn off the carry limit, but then you have a fuckhuge inventory and bethesda's classic, horrible fucking console UI to deal with.
>>332527141
That's the problem, they're incosistent with almost everything in the game. If they just sticked to one thing instead of mixing shit just like in that example it would be a lot better.
I finished the game going BoS way and it still was stupid as fuck.
>dude let's kill Railroad
>no option to negotiate
>no option to tell them to stop helping synths because that's fucking retarded
>no option to do anything else other than murdering the shit out of them
>dude let's blow up Institute instead of preserving tech
>it's not like we're a faction that is about preserving tech or anything
>>332524520
>>Best power armor mechanics in the series
I agree, while in earlier games you could infiltrate factions with it, but at least it's not a stupid armor
>>Best gun mechanics in the FPS series
like? it's the same as fallout 3, no durability, almost no variation and retarded elemental damages
>>An actual reason to horde junk instead of throw it aside
to make comfy things yes, even if it means jack shit because they'll always loose if you're not here in person
>>Survival mode is pretty gud
it is good
Terrible writting, at least that's what really tickled my dick in a way I didn't like
>You MUST be a family man/woman, this is constantly brought up
>You MUST destroy the two rival factions, you can't find a peacfull solution
>Nice yes, sarcastic yes, mean yes and more info yes
>two towns (sanctuary and other settlements don't count)
>Infinite """quests"""
>The main story basically doesn't change anything after the fact
And some other minor stuff
>Weapons can't be holstered
>700 Weapons mods so the 10 or so guns feel slightly different
>They still haven't fired Todd's high school buddy that runs their animation department
>C-C-CRAZY FOREIGN ACCENTS LOL BECAUSE THAT WASN'T DUMB IN FO3 AND NEW VEGAS EITHER AMIRIGHT
I don't like the new perk system either.
The only improvement is the gameplay and they made the BoS sort of dicks again.
>>332527296
>nah crafting sucks
You haven't seen the crafting mechanic/menu in New Vegas/3 then.
- Factions are boring
- Base building is boring and pretty useless since attacks are rare and hardly a challenge
- Gun/Armor crafting is completely linear and devolves to 'get maxed out version of [x] item that I can build' with very rare modifications that actually implement some sort of effect (which usually isn't worth it).
- Settlement crap is annoying, when I started new games after the first playthrough I completely avoided going back to the initial settlement so I could avoid fucking Preston.
- Not too many unique places
- Variety of weapons is pretty small, just pipes, standard rifles, standard shotguns, standard x, y, z, etc
- No ammunition crafting which was one of the niftier things of F:NV, I know mods have it now, but it's retarded that they removed it.
- Story is pretty retarded
>>332526227
>marketed as a fallout game
>it's not a fallout game
>DURRR IT'S GOOD FOR NOT A FALLOUT GAME HURRRR
kill yourself you worthless fucking monkey
>>332526173
Oblivion is a single threaded piece of unoptimized garbage, release skyrim was also unoptimized as fuck.
Fallout 3 is an anomaly as far as performance is concerned, but it still crashes every two seconds on W7+.
>>332527457
It wasn't good in F3/NV either but saying it's good in F4 is a mistake.
>>332527447
>Gameplay
*gunplay
>>332527457
NV/3 had crafting?
Besides comparing it to an even shittier system is not a great indicator of quality anon.
>>332526227
and it would've sold less than half than what it got in sales, use your fuckin noggin, moron.
>>332527467
>- No ammunition crafting which was one of the niftier things of F:NV, I know mods have it now, but it's retarded that they removed it.
Didn't they also revert speech checks back to a percentage chance? It feels like they're just trying to assert themselves over Obsidian. How DARE they do something better!
>>332526618
We are talking about how the the average american gamer is a dumb fuck, but if you wanna throw companies in why not talk about EA and Activision too?
>>332527467
>standard rifles, standard shotguns
>they share the same fucking model
BRAVE BETHESDA
STILL NO PUMP ACTION SHOTGUN
WHY BETHESDA HATES AMERICA
>>332527693
Yeah, that too which is fucking retarded and makes dumping points into skills a literal luck of the draw which is easily abused by just reloading a save.
>>332527562
Dont value F3 with NV up.
F3 is nigger bike steal tir shit.
NV is NV.
It stands out from all the shit and is the sucesor of F2.
>>332527638
I want to murder that motherfucker with my bear hands
>>332527124
>praising "quickloot"
MY IMMERSION
How's the new DLC lads? I bought the Season Pass like a rube but I can't bear trying it out without beating the game first.
>>332527736
What's even more annoying is with the standard shit you will always end up making the same fucking shit because you'll literally just scroll down the crafting list to the bottom most item and crafting it. There's nothing more to the crafting system. It could have literally been just replaced with 'upgrade weapon for x caps' and nothing would be different.
I liked it, worth my time especially since i got it 4 free, but it wasnt a good fallout game. (I know, what a fallout fag lol)
>>332527638
Was he aware that he just essentially called himself a complete slobbering cross-eyed moron? it doesn't help that the photo makes him look like one, as well.
>>332527481
>marketed as a fallout game despite only vaguely resembling fallout on a completely superficial level, with only a vague and tangential connection the the previous games
>DUHUHUHR IT A FALLOUT HEHUH NO IT'S NOT A SHITTY SPINOFF BETHESDA OWNS DA RIGHTZ
>WE CANON NOW
>>332527827
what dlc? survival mode or automaton dlc? they're both shit. you cant even waifu ADA. fucking shit.
>>332527914
shouldn't you be in school, autismo?
>>332527827
I thought it had a nice challenge at the very end, but I don't use companions, and I didn't deck out the robutt, so I kinda fucked myself there.
Actually had to use drugs and stealth boys.
>>332526913
>Yes
>Sarcastic Yes
>Yes, but tell me more
>Fuck you, but Yes
Replace Yes with No where applicable and you have described every dialogue """choice""" in this shitheap.
>Plot
>Pacing
>Roleplaying
>Lore
>Length
>Perks
>Stats
The game has better shooting I guess.
>voiced character
>there is only one voice so you'll always sound like a middle aged white man no matter how you look like
>>332523425
everything
>>332527447
>two towns (sanctuary and other settlements don't count)
What's the second town?
>>332528184
Goodneighbor presumably
Bit of a stretch IMO.
What do you think about the reused soundtrack anon sprinkled with a few new songs?
Some of them are catchy and the radio shows are okay.
Still pretty cheap imo.
>>332523425
>play survival mode
>fucking get raped all the time
>can never find any beds so I always have to restart at a point that was almost an hour ago
What the fuuuuck. This isn't fun at all how the fuck am I supposed to have fun. What a waste of resources why is this even in beta like this is just a basic mode ffffffffff
>>332528239
I actually liked Goodneighbor more than Diamond City itself. It's small as fuck though.
What, Fallout 4? Did Obsidian announce it finally? Can I finally wash the taste of TES Wasteland 2 out of my mouth?
>female character is a lawyer who knows how to shoot miniguns and operate power armor
>it is established that you need proper training for that
FUCK THAT SHIT YYEEEEEEHAAAWWWW 10 MIN IN THE GAME HERE HAVE POWER ARMOR AND A MINIGUN!!! WE BETHESDA FUCK EVEN OUR OWN LORE!!
>>332527638
>>332527817
>>332527912
>>332527826
>NV/3 had crafting?
It doesn't break the flow.
If you want immersion, mod a little timer, make it so it takes a few sec to take an item.
>>332523425
It just worked.
>People bitch about mentions of jet in pre war computers
>Bethesda fixed it by adding Jet in sealed pre war facilities in Automatron
LEL
>>332528451
Nevermind the quote.
>>332528426
How is he working for Bethesda? Is he just a friend of one of the other, more competent employees? He is a fucking idiot.
>>332523768
Woah hol up
The robot kid reactivates ? Noice.
>>332527718
They're just as bad, but the way Europeans act like their shit doesn't stink is obnoxious as hell
I'm not even an American and it's annoying
>you see a magazine inside of your house during the intro, in a perfect shape
>bombs drop
>the magazine is STILL IN THE SAME SPOT
>AFTER 200 YEARS
>IT'S STILL INTACT
>no one throughout 200 took it, it wasn't blown by wind
>not torn apart by some random animal
>not destroyed due to rain and so on
>>332528472
It was made by miron in new Reno for one of the mob boss families.
>>332528239
Yeah, goodneighbor.
Now that I think of it, there's 4 towns. DC, Goodneighboor, sanctuary 8although it's a real fucking stretch) and bunker hill.
Admittedly it's been a while since I last played.
>>332528532
i dont care about pete hines i care about potatoes in oblivion todd got me a job so he can skim the top animation school buddy.
>>332528578
europoors like fifa and other sport games made by EA. Also europoors are mostly sony fags.
>>332527997
Nice comeback, kiddo
>>332528578
>>332528578
rockstar is just horrible.
>>332528368
No fast travel sounds like loads of fun. I love walking through back and forth between settlements when I need something!
The whole world feels cramped as fuck; 7 Days to Die, an indie game has more space.
>>332528184
Goodneighbor and diamond city
The only memorable characters are your companions. The towns are shit. The factions are awful. The quests are really bad. There is hardly any good loot, in fact junk is the most valuable shit in the game. The settlement shit is a waste of time. The whole map is just one big war zone with generic settlements sprinkled in for that shitty settlement building/radiant quest time waste horse shit. Terrible writing. Awful characters. FO3's music being shoehorned in. DJ goes from spaghetti dropping to boring try hard if you do his dumb lazy quest. The dialogue wheel is garbage.
Other than that it was okay.
>>332524520
The power armor mechanics were based off of this Fallout New Vegas mod.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37983/?
>>332528646
Fucking this, it's a hackjob retcon. The smart thing to would have to patch F4 and remove the reference, instead of >>332528472
it's like how butthurt can you be as a company that you have to double down on your retard move
>>332528772
Rockstar's GTA series were created by haggis munching, no-good Scots
Literally fucking everything. It's like a shitter Fallout 3 that played more dress-up on the parts that normalfags liked because of the fact that that's where they get their money from.
>Power Armor bastardization for the sole purpose of redesigning it without giving a fucking reason as to why it's suddenly mobile tank armor that only works for 20 minutes
>no explanation for this in the story, everyone just suddenly goes with it
>npc's are never seen changing their power cell, yet you have to, completely going against shit because of a simple feature that they couldn't bother to add because it would probably be "frustrating" to the player
>storyline makes no sense and the choices you have on them don't make much more, it's literally just go with whatever retarded rash decision the leader of a full-blown faction is willing to make with little to no perception on the consequences of it all
>minutemen are a literal joke that don't even do anything yet they're supposed to be the guys who "help" Boston recover from the nukes
>SPECIAL is now retardedly simplified, which makes no sense under the context of Fallout, since SPECIAL was working for it from the fucking get-go.
>Fallout 4 doesn't have any consequences for you doing various actions, or has any sort of shit that helps you later on. It's literal instant gratification in both moral and literal rewards for no fucking reason other than to make the player happy
>Radiant Quests
>guns in Fallout 4 are literally Pipe Pistols that do just about as much damage as your fully modded Legendary (which doesn't make sense either) 10mm Pistol that bleeds on hit because of the fact that Bethesda figured adding 12 guns to an FPS game would be fine if they allowed shitty mods that "changed" them
>every single companion not knowing how to shut the fuck up for one second
>companions in general somehow taking a step back from New Vegas and even fucking 3
Goddamn, Fallout 4.
>>332529673
Is that Mac
>>332529595
Most of the new features in FO4 came from New Vegas mods.
>>332529595
yeah but you can still put a suit of power armor in your inventory which is just dumb.
power armor as a vehicle is definitely a move in the right direction. which this took so long is the question.
no vehicles
>>332530060
The map would feel even smaller if it had any.
>>332529763
>>companions in general somehow taking a step back from New Vegas and even fucking 3
The waifus are better tho, I mean come on
Fallout 4 is so mediocre that /v/ can't even be bothered to shitpost about it. Think about that.
>>332527997
>>332530060
Useless.
Unless we go back to classic Fallout 2 travel mechanic.
>>332523425
Open world itself and exploration is god tier, only a fool would say otherwise
Gunplay is high quality (made by idsoftware)
Gun crafting/Settlement building is fun
5 good quests
Piper is 10/10 best waifu ever made in vidya
Everything else is garbage cancer tier, RP, dialogues, everything.
>>332529792
i think it's keanu
>>332530794
>Settlement building is fun
>>332530794
>exploration is god tier
There's nothing to find, though. Just abandoned buildings with ghouls or raiders and some junk to loot.
>>332523425
For once i can say absolutely everything without feeling cheap. Granted i only played the pirated version for 3 hours and gave up.
I'll probably end up doing the same thing i did with skyrim... buy it when you can get the _FULL_ game for under 20 bucks, mod it to hell and back, force myself to play through core content so i can say with good conscience that it was a thoroughly shit game.
>>332530587
>lol its just a game bro don't take it so seriously
>>332530956
It fun to spend a few hours, and with mods it's gonna be god tier.
>>332531010
But there is. Tons of hidden locations, terminals with shitload of backstory, and all the fucking time. Like the bar where the people commited group suicide, or the cursed quarry with the hallucinations and the dagger, the group of robots, the fucked up sewers, all the cool locations in the glowing sea. I have 140h only with exploration, and almost every place has it's own story.
Does this game seem short to anyone. ? It seems like there only so much you can do besides the story.
>current year
>>332529686
it shows with how bad gta v went.
fucking scots think they can be independent then get btfo.
>>332531935
Fuck the fucking Scots!
They fucked mah sister
>>332523891
I bet it will be the same deal with Elder scrolls 6
Sorry I mean Skyrim 2
>>332531770
>Tfw some writer spent a lot of time and effort to try and provide character detail and back story to locations
>It's all in FUCKING TERMINALS instead of being TANGIBLE AND VISIBLE TO THE PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
Hidden Locations are a joke. The Mayoral shelter? Full of Jet and Pipe Pistols. Plantations? A Baseball bat and some pipe pistols. Sewers? Pipe pistols. Pipe Pistols, Jet, and Bottle Caps. Every where. All day. All the time.
When I come across a locked door, I know nothing unique or of real value will be behind it, because you can be a master lock picker in an hour. When I come across a pre-war place, I know it will be full of jet, bottle caps, and pipe pistols, because Bethesda's not original or smart in any way when it comes to loot placement.
every place 'has its own story' which most have about 2 sentences worth. Every location feels disconnected from the previous one, as if you have entered a theme park where the theme is that there is no theme whatsoever between the rides.
>>332528426
What a fucking retard..
>>332532190
>>332532190
MY MOTHERS MY SISTER.
IVE BEEN DRINKING AGAIN
>>332523425
Only the graphics, gameplay, and story. Everything else was pretty good.
>>332531848
I wonder why.
Does anyone have that long analysis on why fallout 3 was a bad game? Help an anon out.
Is the Survival rehaul out yet, and do i have to pay for it?
>>332532598
not disagreeing with you but its also terminal audio tapes.
How else are they going to do backstory?
robots and ghouls i suppose.
Its even worse in elderscrolls with all those dumb notes and diaries everywhere.
>>332532530
Skyrim 2 ?
>>332533110
You're slow, huh.
>>332533083
On beta.
I don't bother playing right now
Even with a 970 and I7 4790k I get drops to 30 fps and it's unplayable.
>>332533083
It's out as a PC beta and no, it's free. It's gonna be part of an update.
>>332533003
This one?
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27085
>>332532981
its almost 4x as ,any Questin NV then in Fuck 4
>>332524095
This post made me remember something I was thinking the other day while playing new vegas. Why doesn't bethesda just absorb obsidian and all their good staff i.e. writers, designers, sawyer, avellone? For those that may not know what I mean, it's the process in which a large company purchase a smaller one and effectively liquidates it as an independent company. In that context, bethesda is a multi-millionaire company while obsidian are barely sustaining themselves. Bethesda has shitty writers and staff in general while obsidian know how to make good fallout games. It would be perfect, bethesda fire all their mentally challenged writers that can only write stories about "muh family" and put the old obsidian writers to work on their fallout games but since obsidian doesn't exist anymore bethesda gets all the credit. And when the fallout series finally dies, and the obsidian employees outlive their usefulness, Bethesda can either fire them dropping them to the dirt as a one final fuck you to the long dead obsidian or they can put them to write for Tes or something. Literally win/win or win to bethesda.
>>332532981
"ENDLESS QUESTS"
hoo boy
>>332530257
what waifus? Piper looks like an ugly spic, and Cait looks and sounds like a filthy pirate hooker
Curie is pretty cute but you can't even do anything with her except sleeping in the same bed
at least New Vegas had those cut to black scenes with the loud sex noises
>>332533370
>implying obsidian would allow themselves to be bought
>>332533389
>infinity quests
>scaled loot
WHATS THE PURPOSE OTHER THAN TO BE LAZY ?
it makes you not want to explore all those dungeons they brag about.
>>332523941
some of the shit they failed to implement in the base building that was then made by modders like a week after the games release is fucking sad. bethesda just sad with their thumbs up their asses for the majority of the 5 fucking years they worked on this piece of shit
>>332523425
is there even a penalty to destroying the Railroad? Don't know why but I've never liked those hippies. When the BoS asked me to blow them up I was actually happy.
>>332533396
I think those sex noises were just background in the casinos m8.
>>332533246
>>332533256
Thanks fellers. Might might the game playable if exporation and scavenging means more than building beds for bums.
>>332533632
you have ballistic weave?
Where there actually any interesting vaults in this game? I can't remember a single one
>>332533632
The Railroad was done so poorly. Their goal is noble, but they come off as retards for only caring about helping a few synths when the entire Commonwealth is a hellish wasteland for everyone. When the leader asked me to leave the Minutemen and work with them instead, I knew I hated them.
>>332533648
https://youtu.be/OVKZ8fUdbmw?t=2m28s
>>332533548
Seriously, even Fallout 3 had at least one unique item per location, or at least a decent stash of caps/items, so you actually wanted to explore. In 4, every single dungeon ended in a safe containing
>pipe something with addons you could make in two seconds
>50 caps worth of pre-war money
>a dozen caps
>stimpack
>bullets for the gun you dont use
>>332533260
I remember reading the entire article a while back, would recommend the read
![4fe3075601[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/AQSZOLp.jpg "4fe3075601[1].png")
>>332530587
>>332533496
When they see the money on the table they will have a hard time refusing their offer. And believe me, bethesda has a shit load of money. Besides EA does this all the time, why don't bethesda?. At this point I would say they have as much money as EA if not more.
>>332533365
Hey now, 8 years of development for more quests than F3.
>>332533867
even in fallout 3 they came off as faggots. When the Railroad agent comes up to you during the Harkness quest and you ask her if there's a reward for helping them instead of the institute, she says
>"Of course! If you help me, and thus the android, God and the universe will smile upon you. Is there any better compensation?"
I've always had sympathy androids and AIs, but the railroad just comes off as a bunch of self righteous social justice warriors
I guess they would have to be if they named themselves after the fucking underground railroad
>>332533389
Them there 'Endless quests' (also known as radiant quests) are shit... after a while. The reason they're shit... after a while, is down to its heavy use of formula
>>332533779
I remember one of them literally just being a vault of rich and important people with an overseer thats a dumb poor guy. That was it though, nothing else to it
>>332533779
No.
>>332533396
>Piper looks like an ugly spic
I disagree mate, she's sexy as fuck
>>332527129
Bring up the console and type ipresetinterval 0 nigger
>>332533867
they dont even fit the them of F4. Feels more like Terminator then F4.
I expected from Desdemona to take me out in side tunnel where giant synth walkers on tracks crushing billions of skulls and shoot escaping railroad agents on Brahmani.
every fucking time. And that pose as if she looking a holo table/ map or something and plan army movements.
Fuck the rail road is a thematic fail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mg7qKstnPk
>>332526680
>Th-that's just a r-r-radiant quest, Anon!
Eat shit and die you fucking cancerous faggot.
>>332533939
He stands corrected
>>332526726
Is that the brave toaster?
Source on that image
>>332535041
it's making fun of a stupid anti depressant commercial
>>332534159
Is there one for fallout 4 yet?
>>332534645
her voice actress is hot, too bad vidya developers can never just import a face and be done with it
>>332524958
>>power cell works for centuries
powering ONE LAMP for centuries.
>>332535343
It looks like its powering the whole building, but then the grid takes on the extra load once you take it out. Every electrical light source in the cell flickers when you pull the core out.
>>332523768
>Did I miss anything?
the only thing you actually said was "almost no RPG elements". Everything else is just branching from this
about bugs and AI, it was always bad. Actually, it's better than NV.
I loved Fallout 4. I wasn't really a fan of NV or 3 though.
>>332523737
exactly
7/10 game
2/10 fallout game
>>332535514
>It looks like its powering the whole building
it's clearly not. When ou take it out, everything keeps running.
>>332523737
because You should have the final say in what a fallout game is and isn't, right?
>>332532682
This just made me realise, all of us, the farmers, the police officers, the scientists and others including yourself all come from the same thing:
Pussy
Hey guys look, it's a conversation between someone who knows how things work: >>332535514
... and a complete retard: >>332535741
Fascinating!
>>332536115
RELEASE THE GECK ALREADY BETHESDA
>>332535741
The whole scenario makes no sense anyway. If the building has no power going to it, then pulling the fuel out of the emergency generator should permanently kill the lights in the building.Feels like they missed out on a neat mechanic here. Stealthing your way to the generator room and killing all the lights could freak out the enemy and make it easier for you to take them out in the darkness
But it just makes all the lights flicker for a few seconds before external power takes over. So the building still has power coming in from outside, but the generator is still running, because the lights flicker when you turn it off.
wat
>>332523425
it is probably the best game of all the new fallouts (3, NV, 4). Everything except the rpg elements are improved. Best graphics and mechanics of all, and for the first time everything makes sense. Even the raiders bases have sources of water/food/protection. Everything follows the same logic. Companions are improved; now they can even wear power armor, and arguably them not dying is a better situation for the player (you would just reload anyway).
It's difficult to say how much the "rpg elements" will weight for you. It's very subjective. But i don't think it should turn the game to shit for not having much of it.
>>332536007
The fuck are you talking about?
#33253574 statement made sense
>>332525124
>Who the fuck let this guy become a head writer?
Nobody. He didn't write for or contribute to the development of this or any other game.
>>332536479
The plot, writing and dialogue were also terrible.
Combine that with the lack of roleplaying and you have a generic triple-A FPS set in a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
If I wanted that I'd play MW3. In fact, MW3 is a better game than FO4 in every area the developers put effort into.
>>332536356
>pulling the fuel out of the emergency generator should permanently kill the lights in the building
that if we assume it's even an "emergency generator", or assume how it is connected. At the very least we can say it follows the logic of the game when you consider other generators.
>>332536007
>and a complete retard
insulting people when you don't have an argument is bad, anon.
>>332536479
>probably the best game of all the new fallouts (3, NV, 4)
>and for the first time everything makes sense
you were onto something and you lost it with those two statements.
>>332536741
>The plot, writing and dialogue were also terrible.
the plot was never good in fallout.
>>332536479
>Companions are improved; now they can even wear power armor
They've always been able to wear power armor.
>>332536897
At least they were compelling and relatable in 1, 2 and NV.
>>332536789
3 and NV looks like shit today, and 4 clearly has the best mechanics. Objectively speaking, it is a better game. As i said, it's just how much RPG elements weight for you.
>>332536479
>Companions are improved; now they can even wear power armor
they can do it in f2,f3,nv. dumb nigger.
>>332535335
Extra payments for the face and it is much more expensive than voice contracts.
>>332526942
Cause the leader is a nigger.
>>332536763
Well its clearly connected to the whole building. If you pull a core in one of the buildings with big open areas, like that one bunker or signal station up north with the central area full of raiders, you can see even those lights going out. And if the thing can power a whole building, then it'd be a hell of a lot easier to just park one of those in the basement then to lay miles of copper and spend billions on power stations, yet they did both.
Regardless, the whole thing is just a little mechanic Bethesda put in to make picking up cores feel neat. Where all this electricity is coming from is skimmed over. Diamond City is lit up like New Vegas, despite not having the Lucky 38, a vault reactor in its basement and Hoover Dam a few miles away, and you can make diesel spring out of the ether to power your towns.
>>332526942
>Drummond Diner
>place where two people both live and run a business
>there's a skeleton sitting at one of the tables
IT'D TAKE LIKE TWO SECONDS TO THROW IT IN A DITCH!
>>332536968
only one could originally in NV, and some came with it in 3, if i remember well.
>>332536994
that's more subjective. Mechanically they fuck you up sometimes. They do that in 4 too, but with.. other significant improvements.
>>332530126
By that logic running is useless
>>332537415
>nv
they would not wear faction armor aka bos power armor. the remnants power armor is ok.
>f3
cross came with it. they all can wear bos power armor.
>>332537415
>only one could originally in NV
Only because it counted as Brotherhood faction armor, so only Veronica would wear it. Pretty sure anybody can wear the Enclave Remnants armor.
>>332537282
>you can see even those lights going out
normally only one light goes out, not the entire place. And again, it's a power armor vs. light, with a lot of assumptions to how long the generator is powering the place. Now that i think about it, you basically get the power source at 100% capacity, so i doubt it was being used that much.
>>332537607
>>332537637
so basically they are 'picky' to what power armor they would wear.
>>332533939
That is a mod for new vegas. It wasn't there vanilla.
>>332537747
Thats just odd though. Keep the nuclear generator running all the time just to power one light in the nuclear generator room? Maybe if there was some minute long startup procedure for anything that runs off these cores as the machines slowly bring them to critical state, forcing it to constantly be operating to provide instant backup power, but it seems like they're just plug and play in the armor, which appears to be the machine that puts the most severe load on the cores.
>>332538028
Kill me, Pete
>>332537372
>IT'D TAKE LIKE TWO SECONDS TO THROW IT IN A DITCH!
Ditches are already full of skelletons and reddit-bears doing lol randum poses and holding guns.
>>332537836
The companions cannot wear faction armor unless their background allow it (NCR armor for boone, BoS for veronica, etc...)
>>332534653
do i include the 'nigger' part too?
>>332536115
game get shiten on where ever and when ever he makes a thread
>>332525747
You get all your powercells from generators they have been powering for 200 years faggot. No wonder that shits only got a little juice left.
>>332540163
But they all read 100% when you plug it into the armor.
>>332523425
>>332524520
>survival mode is good
But it's not an a direct downgrade from NV hardmode
>>332540163
Strange that after you take them out the lights dont go out.
Elevators dont stop working.
Jada jada.
Why cant i build one for my setelment.....
Why cant i mod my recoiling laiser rifel to use them?
>>332533370
Bethesda tried to, but in a scummy way. Bethesda tried to bankrupt Obsidian to buy them for cheap.
DUDE
NUKES
LMAO
>>332540826
Another extremely simple thing they could have put in that would have improved the game. Instead of building an ugly array of loud, annoying gas generators to power your settlement, the top tier power source could just be a generator that runs off a fusion core.
>>332523425
It's a shooter with rpg elements not an RPG
>>332535541
pleb
>>332526960
Crafting kills dungeon diving and exploration. It makes it so there's no worthwhile loot to look forward to. It's better if crafting was just a upgrade mechanic.
>>332530587
>lol it's just 60 dollars bro, who cares about the quality of the product you buy!
>>332542381
>in Canuckistan its closer to 90
If vidya was a monarchy we'd have stormed the Winter Palace by now
why didn't they just mod all the nuclear icbms before the war to give them the Medic's prefix
that way when they exploding then everything would have been fine
since magic is canon in fallout due to FO4
