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Now that MMOs are dead, can we finally agree that this is the best one out of the bunch you can play today?
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>>332515954
Is there a sub based MMO besides WoW and this game that's still alive?
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>>332516057
Eve and FFXI
But both of those games are rapidly declining.
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>TFW you cuck the whiny tank and boot him from the group for harassment
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I've played probably 1000 hours on 14. Absolutely love it. But I usually go 6 months without playing it and go back for a few hours. But I do believe it is the best one on the market atm.
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>>332515954
Out of all the MMOs released these past few years, they can't seem to hold a candle to this one in terms of quality and playerbase amount.
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>>332515954
All you do in this game is talk to NPCs how is it even an MMO?
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>>332515954
It's good until you hit the gear treadmill endgame. Also the community is utter garbage. Get some friends to play it with you, or make some more in-game and you'll have fun.
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Ever since they added the novice network the chat seems to be more alive than ever as a new player. Lots of people grouping up for dungeons and helping each other out here on Exodus.
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>>332515954
Yo dawg i heard you like loading screens.
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>>332516707
They suck but hardly a problem with a SSD, takes less than 5 seconds to load a Heavensward zone.
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Literally nothing to do but one 4-stage raid
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>>332516909

If all you care about is gear progression, sure.
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>>332516978
What else is there to care about? Fishing for pixels? Glam glams and AFKing in Idyllshire? Fluff only matters when it supports the solid core gameplay.

Also, obligatory SHITTER DETECTED
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>>332516234
>Ex Roulette
>be WHM
>tank pulls small groups
>that is fine
>never dips low, I can go DPS ham
>pulls last group before the double egg wall
>decide to toss a few DoTs on the wall
>DPS also starts to focus wall
>tank suddently stops dead in her tracks
>butterflies spawn while they lose aggro on the other mobs
>I stop to dps and heal, dps and me kill the stuff
>tank moves again
>"Don't attack anything I didn't attack."

Passive aggresive shits. Worst part is they are literally not needed in the new expert dungeons and only serve to drag dps down.
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>>332517069

So it's not so much there's nothing to do, you just aren't interested in it unless it's stat-wise character progression.

What do you expect out of an MMO?
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>>332517402
Answer the question
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>>332515954
It's not, even if you exclude actual MMOs and just focus on themeparks.
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I'm surprised this game is still alive, most sub MMOs these days go F2P after a few months like Wildstar and Tera.
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>>332517516

How am I supposed to answer 'there's literally nothing else to do' when you don't consider anything you're personally not interested in as 'anything else to do'? You already disregard gathering and glamouring.
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>>332515954
No, I'm afraid we can't.
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Been playing the free trial for the past couple days. Dig the music and atmosphere. Been playing the pet caster class. How are the melee classes?
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>>332516872
It doesn't matter that they don't take long. The loadings screens completely destroy the continuity of the world.

Having to experience 5 loading screens back to back just to fly to another city is unacceptable.
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>>332517835

Oh man, fucking Wildstar. They sure changed their tune real quick.
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>>332517976

Just teleport then.
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>>332517835
F2P never ever
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>>332515954
No all mmo's are trashy grind fests. Fucking stupid.
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>>332517954
Deagoon/Lancer feels empty but after lvl 50 it gets a lot of good fun attacks.
Stick with Arcanist, it's helpful since it turns into both dps with Summoner and a healer (Scholar) and they both level at the same time since it sharers the same base class.
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BDO brought back the magic of ffXI for like a week. Mostly because it does not explain SHIT. Then you hit endgame which is more akin to a classic korean grinder where the no lifers have complete control over PvP which is endgame for BDO.
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this is the best MMO, FF14 wishes it had combat that was a tenth as good as this

inb4
>its instanced so its not an MMO
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>>332518105
It's funny because FFXIV is suffering from all the problems it tried to avoid by going monthly-fee. People have gotten tired of the same shit being released with a new coat of paint in every patch. End of the day, the core gameplay is bland, there have been a few times when they've tried to do innovative things with it, but ultimately it's all just rehashed.
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>>332517314

Fuuuck I can't for the life of me figure out how tanks fuck up so bad when they're level 60. For fuck's sake some of them can't even hold aggro.

You have 90% of your TP/Mana left faggot fucking use it.
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>>332517402
>>332517840

How are any of the extra things you can do in FF14 anything that one could dedicate any amount of time to?

Literally everything could be summarized as terribly bland and shallow minigames, where in the time you actually have to commit to grinding them is in no way worth the lackluster rewards you get.

The only thing this game has going for it is the challenging primal ex fights, mainly because of dat music. Everything else is drivel.

>progression content is complete shit largely in part to unimaginative and uninspired content outside of ex-fights and a fuck awful community where in actually trying to get good is looked down upon as being elitist
>any additional content is pure superfluous padding to keep autists addicted to the ride by giving them incredibly minor rewards to keep the numbers rising
>the story is a complete hackjob of both a horrible script and an absolutely atrocious translation that leaves at otherwise passable plot as a plothole ridden mess where character motivations are nonsensical as fuck
>the world is bland and segmented as a result of consoles and doesn't feel like a final fantasy world at all. It just feels like some generic fantasy trash with references to FF events and characters thrown into the mix.

If this game wasn't Final Fantasy, it would be free to play or dead right now, which is also ironic because there is almost fucking nothing "Final Fantasy" about it.
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>>332517954
Monk and Ninja are pretty fun, their global cooldown gets shorter and shorter later and they get some sick moves that do a lot of damage without even triggering the GCD.
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>>332518372
The relatively fast exp from FATEs means people can rush in, spam the same AOE attacks over and over, and eventually hit 60 with no idea how to actually play their class.
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>>332518386
>>progression content is complete shit largely in part to unimaginative and uninspired content outside of ex-fights and a fuck awful community where in actually trying to get good is looked down upon as being elitist
>any additional content is pure superfluous padding to keep autists addicted to the ride by giving them incredibly minor rewards to keep the numbers rising
>the story is a complete hackjob of both a horrible script and an absolutely atrocious translation that leaves at otherwise passable plot as a plothole ridden mess where character motivations are nonsensical as fuck
>the world is bland and segmented as a result of consoles and doesn't feel like a final fantasy world at all. It just feels like some generic fantasy trash with references to FF events and characters thrown into the mix.
you just summed up FFXI
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>>332518386
>to keep the numbers rising
Well, they ain't doing a good job with that.
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>>332518386

Okay but just because you personally don't feel something is 'worth it' doesn't mean it isn't something to do.
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What are WHMs supposed to put in their tomes gear? Piety, Acc, Spell speed?
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>>332518423

But it's literally 1 button they have to use in order to even tank. This isn't even expecting cooldowns or some shit, just basic aggro holding.
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>>332518339
really only the vocal minority are tired of the game, meanwhile tons of people are still enjoying it in-game and new players got lots of stuff to do and catch up on.
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But that isn't new runescape.
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>>332518146
You mean it gets fun at 50 but then it gets one useful utility ability and then just a bunch of pointless garbage?
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>>332518610
Depends on how you want to play really.
funny how they took the choice of builds off tanks and gave it to healers, really
Wanna add to DPS? go accuracy
Wanna heal more? Go crit.
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>>332518610

Acc. Shitloads of acc.
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how do I into crafting?
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>TWO
>POINT
>FIVE
>SECONDS
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>>332518610
Enough Accuracy to hit whatever the caster cap is, whatever little is left probably is too little to make a difference anyway so just put in whatever you feel helps you the most at that point.
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>>332518748

You have the image right there.
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>>332518610
Do not listen to this sperging idiot
>>332518715

Put it into accuracy. You will not hit shit with your dps spells without accuracy.

Once you upgrade the tome gear consider adding tier 5 accuracy so you can spend the rest of the slots in spell speed.
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>he plays on console
/votekick
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>>332518889
Anon, not every healer wants to DPS, that's just a way of life in this game.
If you're into actually attacking, by all means jam as much accuracy as you can manage, until caster cap.
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>Dissipation
Why do I even keep this shit on my bars
I've maybe had 3 useful uses out of it ever.

Funny how your 60 ability which you would normally expect to be something extra cool is just you murdering your fairy.
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>>332519038

Why would you even want to rely on crit for extra healing?
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>>332518751
i'll bite, it's not even noticeable on melee classes because you can weave abilities in between the gcd and casters obviously have cast times to fill the gap
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>>332519038
Yeah, the way of vote kicking you for dragging the group down by not doing your outmost.
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>>332515954
I'm still having fun in EvE, but it's definitely not for everybody.
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Which is the comfiest city?
I like Limsa the most
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Question to MNKs:

Outside of PVP, does any of you use one ilm punch or haymaker? They seem pretty useless for parties, since either i'm not getting hit, therefore not proccing haymaker (and DRGs being able to slow on demand), and save for very particular mobs, there's no buffs to remove with one ilm punch.
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>>332519126
If you're a SCH a large portion of your healing ability comes from crit, wether through shields or emergency tactics.

>>332519120
Dissipation is for when your co healer is either dead (by being fucking retarded) or fucking retarded and you need to spike heal right away.
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>>332519258

Okay fair point but as a WHM what's the point?
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>>332519253
>Outside of PVP, does any of you use one ilm punch or haymaker?
nope
>They seem pretty useless for parties,
yep
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>>332519038
Any healer that doesn't heal during any of the new dungeons is a literal waste of space. The mobs hit so weak and tanks have so much migration that SCH can leave all their healing to their pet. Why wouldn't you just start to DPS, especially seeing that healer have it so much easier than all other DPS to AoE, not to mention you last longer than any TP based class.
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>>332518715
>>332518719
>>332518760
>>332518889
Thanks guys. I guess I'll put grade V Acc into my gear. I actually like dpsing. I wanted to put in some Piety, personally. However, if Acc is better, then so be it.
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>>332519253
Nope, they're useless abilities in raids since everything is immune to their effects. Only good for killing random trash mobs.
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>>332519253
No. There were some fates where one ilm punch could be used to get rid of stoneskin but other than that you won't be using either of those on any kind of regular basis.
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>>332516354
How the fuck can you enjoy the game if you only sub once every few months? Everything's time gated to where you can't accomplish shit all in a new patch in just one month.
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>>332519120
i imagine it can be fairly decent in PvP
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>>332519208
>god tier comfy
Holy See of Ishgard
>comfy
Limsa Lominsa
>comfy but has a shit tier layout
Ul'dah
>comfy only when it's raining
Gridania
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>>332519184
Nigga I'm a SCH main and have all my shit melded accuracy.
I'm just saying if that first anon is some guy who picked up healer so he can heal and only heal (like almost every Wowfugee I've ever seen), then there are other options for healing rather than building for something they dug their feet into the ground against.

>>332519336
Well, Crit does have more stat weight to it than Det, but it' still a gamble. Just like DPS builds really.
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>>332519120
It gives you 3 extra energy drains, its essentially a dps cooldown, you shouldn't use this for dps when on progression though, as it kills one of the tanks regens.
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>>332519375
The only thing you won't be able to accomplish is getting all the new gear. All the dungeons, story, and feasibly the raids can be cleared well within a month.
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>>332519120
Haven't used it other than if I wanted to DPS and needed the stack to toss in more Drain.

Giving up the free healing and buffs while having to pay both mana and quick cast cooldown to get my pet back isn't worth the 20%, especially since it only synergizes with Physics, Adlo and Succor.
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>>332519120
It's not like SCH really needs more buttons they have to press.
I really wonder how they're going to handle skill bloat with the next expansion. A few jobs I could see being fine even with new skills, but SMN, SCH and MCH are going to become fucking unplayable.
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>>332519208
Limsa with san d'oria music
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>>332519258
Sch needs to prioritize accuracy the most since they are the off-healer.
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>>332519447
>Ul'dah
>Shit design

Shit smell, maybe, but the town is literally a corridor and a circular hub. Not to mention that everything's easily accessible by aetherite.
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>>332519543
I don't actually know how the gamepads work with the game but that's got to be a nightmare already with this amount of skills
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>>332519543
Macro a hotbar switch when you enter Cleric stance, problem solved.
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>>332519208
It's a shithole full of french giraffes but in terms of locale and music Gridania is undeniably the comfiest.
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>>332519543
They already mentioned about upgrading skills so I expect some retarded naming convention like Cure II 2
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>>332519615
I might be retarded but whenever I go to the place with the miner's guild I get lost
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>>332519346
The accuracy necessary to actually hit things is like 600-something, and the new healer gear gives fuckall for accuracy.
So it is important for DPS-healing.

>>332519591
No shit. I'm giving an example for a healing only healer, because there are people out there with different mindsets than you for builds.
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>>332519529
Imagine if the 20% also applied to damage.
Goddamn I would never stop murdering my fairy if that was the case.
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>>332517835
>>332518003
Wildstar is so dead that they closed the PVP servers last month because they were ghost towns, now there's only two servers left.
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>>332519627
Really easily, gamepads switch through hotbards effortlessly because when you hold the trigger button you can switch through 8 different hotbards assigned to each button, the rest is just memorizing where your skills are which is just muscle memory.

SCH and SMN is also not as hard as you might think once you're used to switching through hotbars the right way, meaning you can leave the pet hotbar on toggle.
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>>332519208
Ishgard for looks and atmosphere.
Limsa for most efficiency.
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>>332519735
>>332519735
>healing only healer
That doesn't exist in this game stop enforcing this shitty practice.
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>>332519715

Try using the weaver's guild aetherite next time. It's the closest point to the miner's guild, and just a corridor away.
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>>332519120

Free damage/Emergency healing in savage raids. Pop fairy buffs, sac her and do stuff.

>>332519038

That would be fine, but they are actively encouraging healer dps in novice camps as well as raids. So no, it is actually your job to dps as a healer, you're no better than a shitty tank or dps if you think casting a cure 2 every 10 seconds is what your job only is.

Considering the new dungeons, especially since they only require an average of like 450 heals per second. Considering a Divine Seal Cure 2 can easily hit for 10k+ on crit and like 5k+ usually, its disgustingly low. Not to mention the HPS needed is less with a good WAR. It's so easy to just switch on clerics and spam aoe.
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>>332515954
This game is horrible and going nowhere, but it's still the best MMO on the market.
I think that really says something.
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Server

Favorite Job

Race

Gender

go
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>>332519771
>450 added potency

Its basically a burst cooldown, unless you actually need it to heal.
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>>332517835
This has a console playerbase and the FF brand

It's really shitty and shallow, but people are playing it so their friends do too.
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>>332519895
They actually do.
I was kicked from three different statics because "healers should only heal. Your DPS is shit anyway, why aren't you playing a summoner if you want to DPS?"
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>>332519771
That would be the most beautiful thing they could do. And it would make for interesting gameplay as 'off-healer'. Trust your main healer enough? Axe the pet, go ham.
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>>332519978
And now the /xivg/ characterposting begins. You're a little late today.
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>>332519978
Odin
NIN
Lalafell
male
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>>332519978
Odin Eu
BLM
Midlander
Female
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>>332520035

off-healer have been basically dps for a long time. Nothing new there.
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>>332519978
Excalibur
Currently caught between DRG and MCH
Au Ra
Female
I'm still fucking mad we can't get maid outfits. I will never not be mad
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>>332519978
Excalibur
Whatever I feel like at the moment, but MNKs fun.
Roegadyn
Female
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>>332519651
I've done that since vanilla fampai, but even that won't help if they were to add five more skills that you need to use even semi-regularly.
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>>332520032
Why are you fucking joining statics that will never progress?

Holy fucking shit I am legitimately fucking mad at this post.
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>>332520151
Yes, but SCH would get something to decide on that might have a bad consequence.
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>>332519783

Really? God damn.
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>>332520229
Fuck if I know frogposter.
I just put myself up on PF every week and it's somehow the same shit every time.
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>>332520032
>lying on the internet

If this is actually true then your server must be phenomenally shit with no clears whatsoever or very little.
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>>332516057
Sub MMOs are a dying breed
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>>332520303
I wish it wasn't.
Oh fucking lord I wish it wasn't.
I want to server transfer so bad but I'm broke as it is.
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>>332519978
Hyperion
Scholar
Hyur
Female
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>>332520174
Squeenix will surely deliver
Let's just wait
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>>332519978

Balmung
WHM
Moonkeeper
Male

100% serious
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>>332519978

Moogle
MNK
Roegadyn
Male

SalutFUCKING FRENCH BARDS HOLY SHIT I HATE FRENCH PLAYERS SO MUCH WHY DO FRENCH BARDS HAVE TO AMP UP THE SHIT GAUGE BY 200000%
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>>332516141
>FFXI
>declining

Because it is literally dying.

>>332520174
>Another Excalfag who's also waiting for the outfits
Who are you? I must discuss our anger and tears together.
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>>332520501
>all the same but female

Hello my rule 63
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>>332520174
Do you really think they would dare to bring blatantly sexualized content into the west? kek
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>>332515954
>isn't this wow clone so good?
Except it's a wow clone with more polish and less gameplay...

Just.. just go play wow?

I'm still playing ffxi eagerly awaiting an EQ clone or something new entirely. Wow and wow clones make me vomit.
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>>332517835

Wildstar is a legitimately bad game, though - one of the most ugly and unfun MMOs of all time.

Tera is good, but was released during WoWs peak. It's still pretty active, but the developers are shitters and can't into server stability, optimization, or QoL improvement so it never attained greatness. Still has the best MMO combat of all time.
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>>332520531
Lyndis Feyerbrahm.

>>332520440
>tfw you know it'll never happen and you'll never get to be best Waifu
Laifu is suffering
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>>332520503
I've heard that mmo players are pretty looked down upon in France and Germany and so it's mostly kids that play.
Of course they also don't know any English so they play on their language only servers.
The decent Frenchies and Germans seem to play on the English servers instead.
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>>332515954
As long as you don't give a shit about pvp, yeah.
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>>332520572

Hey. How does it feel that everyone expects you to be a bad healer?
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>>332519978
Gilgamesh
Scholar
potato
male
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>>332520582
Maids aren't sexual!
They're maids!
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>>332519837
Gamepad is very manageable once you learn macros, and use the l2+r2=another hotbar option.
Some good space saving macros include putting 2 ogcd skills that target different categories in one macro (only activates the skill with a valid target), or making a summon also replace any pet abilities, or swiftcast + resurrection (press once for SC, again targetting a dead unit for res)
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>>332520741
I am honestly nothing special, I don't even raid Savage, just EX primals, but I am trying to pull my weight in duty/party finder.
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>>332519978
Cactuar
MNK
delicious brown catgirl
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Why are healers such faggots?
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>>332519120
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>>332521059

Ayyy same as what I do. I can't handle hardcore content after the sour taste of Wildstar's veteran dungeons.
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>>332518386
>there is almost fucking nothing "Final Fantasy" about it.
it's more final fantasy than 7-13 put together
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>>332519978
Exodus
Machinist
Lalafell
Male
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>>332521241

>Dps doing 50% of the damage they should be
>Tanks only pulling 1 group at a time, not holding aggro, and not using cooldowns
>Most people don't say shit about this
>Healer doesn't DPS
>Everyone goes flying off the fucking wall
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>>332521397
B8
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>>332519978
Balmung

MCH/NIN

Sun Miqo

Female
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>>332521241
dps as anything but scholar in dungeons is boring as fuck
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>>332521552
AST here, can confirm.
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>>332521552
>implying sch isn't the bost boring dps healer
It's a fucking watered down smn may as well play that instead
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>Just 3 people from Balmung and one from Gilgamesh in the entire thread.

That's a bit weird.
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>>332521552
>dots
>bane
>and shadow flare maybe to help mitigate slightly

Yeah that's really fun.
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>>332521241
healing is so goddamn boring without DPSing in between, i don't understand how people can stand not stance dancing.

i skip it sometimes when i'm playing on a controller i cant reliably kill cleric and switch targets fast in case of an emergency and i feel like a useless shit
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>>332521552
>cleric stance
>3 dots
>bane
>shadowflare
>miasma 2
>Blizzard II/Broil Spam

So fun. AST or WHM have it ahrder since they still have to heal sometimes during the dungeon.

Healing is boring as fuck nowadays. They need to make things hit a lot harder.
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>start trying out a healer job with WHM
>DPS lots, try out swapping in and out of cleric stance
>50something tank doing roulette with his friend praises the hell out of me
Felt pretty good man.
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>>332521770
>>332521828
you're not wrong

but whm is even worse
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>>332521854
>So fun
Well yes because you will be doing over 1500 dps on aoe pulls.
Certainly more fun than spamming holy.

Also
How would you make healing harder?
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>>332515954
no its not. its literlly the same as wow and all of its clones with ff layout
only good things bout it is the professions, and story
i fcking paid tons for it cuz i was excited and now im just mad
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>>332520275
Yep, one server for NA and another for EU. Both are PVE servers.

even with the game being free to play, nobody wants to play it.
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>>332521854
Every healer has to ocassionally heal. The fairy is like a 200 pot regen so that just gives scholar the most time dps in a dungeon.
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>>332522007
>1500

WHM can easily pull 1.9k if the rest of the group is decent and AST gets 1.5k as well. SCH should be inbetween there.

Force people to heal, get random damage and make them care about MP usage that goes above "How many holy can I squeeze in". First week Gordias 4 with randoms level of healing would be fun.
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So how does Scholar fairy work? Does it heal automatically or do you have to command it to do stuff manually?
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>>332522102
I swear on me my waifu that I literally don't have to switch out of Celeric Stance during the expert duties in my shitty 213 gear as SCH and as WHM I only have to toss out a Medica to get AoE stuff out. Regen + Asylum keeps tanks during bigger pulls up.
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>>332522379

Casts generic heals automatically, can be ordered to do more specific stuff.
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>>332520654
>Tera
>Good combat
looks fuckkin pathetic compared to DN where even healers are terrifying in pvp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJzSeHJ0DE8&t=9m45s#
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>>332522379
You know carbuncle? Like that, but targeting allies.
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>>332522379
In general you want to have the pet on 'Obey' She will cast the healing spell by herself. All other skills should be used by you.

You can marco her heal into your Physics and Adlo, so she'll target the same target as you, giving your heal a bit more potency, but tanks take so little damage that it usually isn't worth it.
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>>332517314
How can tanks even compete?
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>>332522683
isn't autopilot selene still used for progression
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>leveling roulette
>still somewhat new to healing but understand the basics
>tank is absolutely flying through the mobs
>barely have to heal him because he knows his shit with cooldowns, have time to toss out massive healer deeps
>entire run takes like ten minutes max
>he leaves before I can even give him my commendation

T-thanks tank-sama
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>>332522413
Then your tank must be making small pulls or your dps is finishing the fight before the tanks cooldowns are out.

>>332522379
It heals automatically even on obey but it will stop healing at like 80% hp. The ai is not that good and its generally recommended to leave the fairy on obey, that way you have an esuna cooldown and a silence cooldown on top of being able to use the haste buff when your dos can actually make use of it.
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you know what I wonder?

why does everyone only ever talk about ERP and nothing else?

do people really need to get off that badly?
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>>332522683
>>332522498
>>332522582
Ah okay, thanks.
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>>332521472
I'm equally angry about all of those pal.
>>
>Level PLD
>simple mechanics, 123 things and flash until about 60

>level AST/WHM next to see how hard healing is
>cast heal in low level dungeons
>get super fucking bored
>start DPSing to make up for it
>mid level dungeons
>have to heal a bit more, but keep DPSing
>HW dungeons
>barely find any time to heal between pulls
>constantly OOM on WHM
>loads o' mana on AST
>stop WHM at 55 or so
>lvl AST to 60
>feel like a vietnam veteran from healing EX primals etc with shitters

>start leveling NIN
>boring for low level dungeons
>okay for mid
>lv 45~50
>holy shit all these new oGCD skills
>how the fuck do I optimize my DPS
>help im being a shitter and don't know what I'm doing wrong
>2-3 months later
>il 203
>pull 1700 opener/1300 on dummy
>don't know if this is good or not
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>>332522809
It is but I've made a habit of keeping her in obey from now on because the esuna is actually a useful cooldown and silence can be used in the new raids.
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>>332522880

But, nobody even mentioned ERP until you did.
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>>332519978
Gilgamesh

Monk

Roe

Male
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>>332522862
Not really. DPS might be doing a good job, but buffed up Regena + Asylum and he can pull from thedoord to the double egg wall and I can burst away. Holy stun + a benediction if it gets too close and things should be dead. All other pulls in the dungeon are absolutely laughable.
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>>332522880
Stop playing on Balmung and lurking on /vg/
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>>332522880

FUCKING PANCAKES
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>>332523042
Its just the balmug thing then?
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Do I jump back on PF Sephirot's wild ride to collect totems for the barding?
After getting my now-obsolete weapon I'm starting to miss it.
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>>332522949

Then how come I never see any posts of these obviously shit DPS getting yelled at?
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>>332522950
Stop overhealing

Also how do you run out of mana as ast
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>>332523098

The barding is crafted.
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>>332522950
Nice blog I guess? Thanks for sharing, I'll leave an upvote!
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>>332523101
I don't want to get reported for using a damage meter. A healer not dpsing is obvious.
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>>332523102
I normally don't unless the tank is doing nothing but pulling massive waves and I get absolutely no breathing room/get no ewers
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>>332515954
no, clunkiest MMO in existence, if you are graphicsbaby then its the right thing for you
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>>332522978
The problem with her silence though is that the healer shouldn't be expected to do it if you need it anyways, and also the delay from hitting it and her using it is annoying.

I leave Selene on Sic anyways so I dont' have to pay attention to Fey Wind. On sic she'll instantly silence when she can which is okay. Her esuna's only real problem is she'll blow it on the first debuff that applies to anyone, even if it can't be cleansed anways. But again, it lets me be lazy if I'm not feeling like cleansing the tank's pacification.

People will argue all day whether or not Obey or Sic Selene is better but everyone at least agrees that Eos (if she's even used) should only be on Obey
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>>332519978
Balshit

MNK/MCH/BLM

Sun Slut
>>
>>332520032

I was kicked from the static I've been in for a month or so because I raid on WoW during tuesday nights, which isn't even a raid night the static officially raids on.

I signed up knowing we would raid wed/thurs/mon, you can't just fucking change the raid nights whenever you please and expect people to be able to make it.
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>>332519978
Exalibur

Warrior

Male

Roe
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>>332523230
How? Your tank must use no cds, your equip must be shit or the dps must eat every AoE. Otherwise you don't run oom as AST if you keep luminous on cd.

For fucks sake, I spam gravity all day long and never went oom.
>>
You mean the worst one.

Fuck off back to your containment board
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>>332523091
Balmung is the unofficial (e)RP server.
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>>332523396
>Your tank must use no cds
You must be forgetting how often this happens.

Getting no breathing room generally means the party is beyond shit, time to dps is considered breathing room ffs.
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>>332523270
yeah, and every single "MMO" thread these ff faggots make always derails to talk which belongs to /vg/ as you can see
not much talk about mmos here, just ffxiv
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>>332523501
I fucking hate this server, if it wasn't for the bros in my FC I would've transferred to fucking Excalibur ages ago
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>>332523636
>talk which belongs to /vg/
90% of actual game discussion on this board also "belongs on /vg/"
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>It's a dpser that has to see the group do something very obvious to handle a raid mechanic 3 times before he even considers doing the same.
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>>332519978
Phoenix
SCH
Sheep
Male.
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>>332523209

You don't need a damage meter to tell shitters aren't pulling their weight or even using positionals/.cooldowns.
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How many madmen are on your server who were more than happy to pay the price for the Bennu?

I'm sure they're idling in idyllshire right now
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test
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>want to static as a MT or OT PLD
>know how to VC and not be a shitter
>no opening b/c small server
>don't have the heart to lead one
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>mfw seeing a half naked Au ra

How the fuck can you stand seeing your body covered in disease?
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>>332523742
yes, but every single day i see one of these threads and i think:
"hey, i would like to talk about mmos"
then i actually see the thread and think:
"oh fuck, again ffxiv thread with a missleading title"
you could just make a god damn ff thread if you wanna talk about ff and not other mmos
>>
>bored as fuck
>decide to do some dumb shit like A8 as PGL instead of MNK
>dragoon bitching the entire time that I'm fucking around
>having a bit of fun with the cross class skills
>dragoon of course dies somehow in the brute justice phase
>swift cast+raise him and then goad him afterwards
>do 300 more dps than the next guy
>drg commends me after we clear

Sort of wish there were more cross class skill options, but god forbid there be anything resembling a build in this game.
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>>332524059
its not contagious?
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When the jump crits just right
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>>332523396
>you don't run oom as AST

AST has the worst MP management of the three healers.
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>>332520663
I just did A8 with you, hilariously enough.

And I live in Japan and I'm in a Japanese guild on Excalibur, but I haven't even bothered with the maid outfit thing.
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>>332524280

Why didn't he just destroy the eyes?
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>>332524280
>Jump crits just right
>Still not enough damage to kill vidofnir

Einsteinien is a shitter amongst shitters.
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>>332524157
Bullshit story since you can't raise in combat aside from CNJ WHM SCH SMN ACN
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>>332519978
sargantanas

MNK

cat

male
>>
>>332524318
In a game where healer never run out of mana, having the worst MP management isn't that much of a detriment.
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>>332524359
>They used provoke to wipe everyone and was swiftly booted.
That seems more accurate.
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>>332524157
anon, why make up things on an anonymous imageboard?
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>>332524328
Come meet me at idyll then!
I'm lonely and never have anyone to talk to.
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>>332518324
The combat is not that great, and I wouldn't compare it to ff14s, apples and oranges
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>>332524456
If you're DPSing you're shit at it if you're not running low on mana.
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>>332523230
>>332523230
You literally can't run out of mp as ast anymore. They have a 25-29s refresh. When you do run out of mp using that fills it back up.

You get more mp than SCH with Luminiferous Aether alone.
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>>332524157
>LOOK AT ME, I AM THE MOST UNIQUE OF SNOWFLAKES
>LOOK AT ME
>so desperate for attention they have to make up stories

I bet you play a Lalafell.
>>
No, it's shit.
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>>332524157
>swift cast+raise him and then goad him afterwards
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>>332524318
Not anymore.

Lumineferous aether was increased to a duration of 24s, with celestial opposition this is 29s. Ewer and spire potencies were also increased. They now have the best mp management out of the three healers. This and the Synastry thing is ALL they have but its something.
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>>332524629
>run out of mana
>run low of mana
>out
>low
>out
>low
>>
>Lost City of Amdapor
>tank pulls all enemies down to the first spore
>party wipes
>healer says he pulled too big
>tank says it's a standard pull
>both leave
Who was right?
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>>332524964
tank.
>>
>>332524157
>Untraited raise
>in battle

Fuck you for using mnk/pgl for your shit story too.
>>
>>332524964
Me, deciding not to play on an NA server and instead playing with japs.

日本人のほうがいいよ。
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>>332519120
>I'm making no progress in Savage: the post

So, you don't use Dissipation because you aren't good enough to get to the point where it helps?

Huh.
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>>332524964
Tank.
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>>332525080
How's JPN100 anon?
>>
WHAT THE FUCK

24 fucking dollars for the goddamn bennu mount?

sqex can fuck right off
>>
>>332525248
blizzard mount store laughs at you
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>>332524964
Tank

Especially if one of the dps was smc/blm
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>>332525197
Comparisons between two objects is usually done in 102. Give him SOME credit.
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>>332525409
if it was 15 i woulda caved and bought it, even though thats still an absurd amount of money just for some special pixels in a virtual game.

but 24? fuck that
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>>332525468
Well, nobody is forcing you to buy it.

You know everyone thinks people who buy optional items are massive fags, right? You want that to happen to you?
>>
Pros/cons of paladin and warrior? Thinking of starting a tank, not sure which to go with.
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>>332524021
Nobody wants you, even after your dumb buffs. PLD has lost its niche. AS6 and A8S require WAR/DRK. Last I checked, there were 0 PLD clears and 0 BRD clears (though, to be fair, I haven't checked in like a week and a half)
>>
Balmung
I switch between ast, and drk.

I play a dark skinned au'ra
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>>332525525
Paladin is a unkillable no damage cuck

Warrior is the tank for real men until you unlock Dark Knight
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>>332519208
Gridania
>>
>>332525525
See
>>332525596
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>>332519447
You're a fucking shit tier layout. Limsa is the only city where you don't have to run god knows where to access retainers and auction - it's right next to the big crystal.
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>>332523932
0 as I already own the Zu
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>>332519978
Balmung
WHM
Hyur
Female
>>
>>332525674
I wish playing in first person was viable, I just can't get immersed in third person. I guess I could manually switch when not in combat but it's not the same.
>>
>Bennu is fucking $24
>Not $12 like the Magitek Mounts

Fucking why? It was such a step forward to be for individual characters and not account wide.
>>
>>332519978
Leviathan
BLM and MCH
Hurr
Male
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>>332521970
My first time through, my static didn't tell me that it's a gauntlet. Even with me hardly knowing the mechanics, we made it all the way through to Swindler before wiping.

>My face when I saw Blaster alive again
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>>332525674
I wish a gaudy catslut ran into the frame at the last second
>>
>>332519978
Lamia (Formally Exodus, switched to Lamia to play with Roommate)
SMN and DRG
Au Ra
Male
>>
>>332525734
Gridania is OK if you're in twin adders.

Crystal is reasonably close to the load zone that takes you to markets and theres a small aetheryte right next to markets.

Big aetheryte is right next to adders hq.

Limsa is definetely best though, Ul'fah is pretty shit tier overall.
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>>332526041
>Lamia
I thought I was the only one.
>>
>>332525525
PALADIN
+You get to be a boss ass Deus Vult motherfucker (if you like yellow)
+you have the best mitigation game available
+plenty of actually decent combat potential! especially with fight or flight now putting you at above normal damage output with shield oath up
- REALLY FUCKING BORING
- seriously you have like, one attacking cooldown
- and you have no AOE attacks outside of flash for fucking ever

WARRIOR
+fuckin berserker, aite
+big ass axe
+ tons of HP
+ can keep yourself going for ages
+ best tank deeps in the game
- you're gonna be stuck off tanking, so no major glory for you
- most the axe designs look like shit
- no DEUS VULT
- your best defense is parry, which is really really fucking bad

DARK KNIGHT
+Cool sword weapons, without the bore of paladin
+kind of a mix between paladin and warrior for skills, but more magically inclined
+ can sort of look Deus Vult
+ big fuckoff swords a plenty for all your inner guts needs
- doesn't really have a niche outside of PLD that does more damage
- still need to level something else to 50 anyway to use it
- you're gonna look like a fucking edgelord no matter what you do
+ the game goes out of its way to make fun of edgelord DRKs in the 50-60 quests
-Moogles are involved with these quests
+best 30-50 quest line in the entire fucking game
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>get asked to DPS for Leviathan EX
>ok
>unsynced
>6 people
>tanks keep falling off
>I keep pulling aggro on Levi
>everyone forgets to put up the barrier
>they're obviously in Voice Chat
>xD this is a beauftifl train rek guais
>xDD UR SO FUNNAY
>I just want the dungeon to be over
>we wipe again
>I leave
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>>332526164
hahaha simply epic :')
>>
>>332519447
>shit tier layout
>GC right out of the door when you TP in
>Just down the street is everything you need

I guess you're a Limsa fag that needs everything in their face or else they get lost.
>>
>>332526172
Chill man it's just 15 wipes :)
Some of us play for fun u kno.
>>
>>332526108
I only switched because we were hoping my roommate was gonna inherit a dying FC with a house and 19 mil Gil. They didn't, and I miss Exodus. Lamia is okay, though, not as bad as I heard and I'm a pretty decent FC.
>>
>>332526285
Which one?
>>
No, the game blows.

Enjoy your 'content' consisting of collecting mounts and minions. Oh yeah, also an amazing new race which adds NOTHING!
>>
>>332524558
I didn't remember to add you, if you cared.
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>>332525596
>AS6 and A8S require WAR/DRK
I'd only say they're required in the world/server first race.
Nobody even semi-serious about raiding is going to be held back by not being able to push the dps needed in this tier. They're all going to be held back by the mechanics.

PLD is perfectly fine to take this time around.
>>
>>332526328
Which one are we in now, or which one didn't we get?
>>
>>332526342
Do it tomorrow. No worries.
Get your sleep!

>>332526182
I was just trying to make it at least mildly entertaining.
Probably should have just used the knigga copypasta
>>
>just got to idyllshire
>framerate goes into a coma
I was wondering where everyone was these past 300 hours
>>
>>332526407
Son, DPS checks are not why you take DRK over PLD in Midas savage.

>>332526442
Both, I guess

>>332526447
Be original and creative, anonymous! You are funnier than you think you are!
>>
>>332526526
>Son,

Kill yourself, anyone who talks like this deserves to die.
>>
>>332526526
Then you have no idea what the difference between requirement and preference is.
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>>332526692
Ok. Anyone who takes PLD to A8S deserves to die, and will! :^)
>>
>>332526526
We almost had RoyalDragons, we're in League of Peace now.
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>>332526692
You must love your parents.
>>
>>332526692

>Youngster gets triggered
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>>332526164
>>- you're gonna look like a fucking edgelord no matter what you do
I dunno that PVP sword can make you unedgy and DEUS VULT with PLUNGE
>>
>>332526846

I wasn't raised by hillbilly trash so yes I do. :^)
>>
Anyone remember running something with a taliethe villitar?
>>
>>332526692
Woah there little fella, no need to get so worked up.
>>
>>332526916
That's actually pretty darn cool.
But still it's hard to not look like shit with DARK AURA OF BLOODLUST flying around you all the time.
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tfw no cat meido sex slave
>>
>>332527069
just don't name your character "KIRITO SAUSEGAY" and no one will give a shit
>>
>>332526335
What counts as content to you? Collecting ilevels?
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>>332527069
>DARK AURA OF BLOODLUST

I think of it as hardcore motivation
>>
>>332526916
I need a sword that look like this, but can't find anything.
>>
>>332527191
SODA LOCKED CONTENT
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>>332527191
I want to bend the maid over and cum inside her!
>>
>>332516234
this is like the fourth time I see you shitposting this crap mate.
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>>332519978
Lamia
Summoner
Au Ra
Female
>>
>>332527303
Would you get her pregnant and take responsibility anon?
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>>332527271
to be fair yomi's sword sits between that line from the normal swords and the fantasy swords

not to mention you're gonna need >>332527191 the meido JP ONLY outfit to play has her

which is apparently undyable

also This midian set goes well with undyed skypirate with all the brass
>>
>>332519978
Balmung
Paladin
Lalafell
Female
>tfw no Aura hubby
>>
Yo, quickest way to level classes in general? Started playing again for Heavensward and got my DRG to 54, but it feels kinda empty, even though the abilities are flashy. Looking for something w/ more substance and uptime, so I'm leveling NIN, is the best way to do this just grinding leves and queing for dungeons?
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>>332527448
lol no
dumb catslut
>>
>>332519978
Goblin
AST
Au Ra
Fem
>>
>>332516057
EverQuest still exists, and its free to play mode is so abysmal that it might as well be sub based. the most popular servers atm are still sub only
>>
>>332527464
fucking PNG file size
>>
>>332519978
Midgardsormr
DRG
Midlander
Male
>>
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>>332527461
I could make it work with the valentine set, but I'd rather have meido. Fucking stupid they keep making undyeable set.
>>
>>332527306

And? Would you like someone to suck your dick for this accomplishment?
>>
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>NIN tries using LB2 on Kuribu as she's reverse casting Cure IV
>dies just as the LB goes off because he was at point blank
>it continues anyways

I just imagined a corpse flailing its arms around like a ragdoll doing blade dance
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>>332527069
I love being an edgelord. I have all 3 tanks at 60 and I like DRK's aesthetics the best. Actually feels somewhat like a knight instead of a raging barbarian autist (muh inner beast) or boring ass lawful good power ranger.

They are also by far the most technically complex tank of the 3. You are pressing shit constantly and have an insane amount of crap to weave in to your skills.
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>Detroit simulator
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>>332527720
easy there, you should be glad that you got a reply, you sad sack of shit.
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>haven't played since early February
>still haven't seen what the update has

Is it worth going back?
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>>332527783
Nothing wrong with DRK, I have DRK at 60 myself and I love it too.
As a DRG/MCH main it's really easy to get into the seat of "OH SWEET FUCKING LORD ALL THESE COOLDOWNS"
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>>332527975

lawl you back into a corner pretty quick. Pussy.
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>>332527515
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>>332527897
Man you're funny you should do thathe joke on letterman
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>>332519978
Odin
Scholar
Cat
F-Female!
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>>332528040
here is another reply champ.
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jesus christ, I have never seen a popular, still relevant MMO have THIS many gold farmers spamming your chat log with literally 0 action taken by the dev to stop them.

99% of my chat logs are fucking gold spam
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>>332528269

I look forward to your reply when I post the whiny tank getting cucked in the next ffxiv thread too :)
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Can someone explain the housing system in this game for me?
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>>332528398

Hell I've been RMTing for a year now and they've done diddly. I can't imagine how hard it is to catch someone trading 50 million to a level 15 character.
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>>332528419
Buy plot of land, build house on it, put things in house.
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>>332528402
its your time budy, you can do w/e you want with it, even if it makes you a sad sack of shit, freedom is a nice thing right?

also
>using the word cuck just because its a popular /v/ thing
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>>332528479
>Hell I've been RMTing for a year now
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>>332527496
never post here again you vg piece of shit
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>>332528419
you can't buy anything because all the plots of land are either bought or way too expensive

Apartments soon though
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>>332528419

Limited housing. Cheapest house is 4 mil (Which is already more than 95% of the playerbase has to begin with) and most people are asking around 15-30 mil to relinquish their house so you can buy it.

You need a house to do airships, gardening and chocobo coloring.
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>>332528712
>Apartments soon though
Source? So basically private chambers but open to anyone?
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>>332528046
deserves it for being a dumb maid catslut
let her belly grow big and kick her out on the street, then do it all over again
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>>332528658

Okay son you just keep being angry about things you can't control :)
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>>332528114
Why does that cat want Alf to eat her?
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>>332528845
It's a sex thing.
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>>332528803
>Abuse your servant
>lol your fault
Victim blaming.
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>>332528479
RMRS don't do it through trade
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>>332528803
>Implying you wouldn't raise a kitten if you had the option if only to breed her later after turning her into your cocksleeve.
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>>332528712
If by Apartments they mean I can live in a gigantic flat with other players and meet them in the lobby and hang out/chat together, I am selling my own house and doing that instantly. I barely see my neighbors.
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>>332522950
>1700 opener

Okay bud want a sandwich?
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>>332528660

Why? I like making gil in the game but since I already have a house it's pretty much useless. So I trade my excess off for some real money. Since I'm on Balmung the ~75 or so million I make a month through casual play trades for $375.
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>>332529090
Oh, I thought you were buying money. Selling it I can understand.
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>>332528825
here is another reply
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>>332528994

>I barely see my neighbors

Hell I'd switch with you. Any time I go to the marketboard these faggots that live near me are roleplaying. Not even anything remotely interesting - it's always some love-triangle shit. Like, even in a fantasy world these fucking people can't pretend to have a stable relationship.
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>>332528965
tempting anon
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>>332529274
I'd love to have RPing neighbors, considering I RP myself.

I don't know, the idea of living in a one big apartment with other players, reading all the banter, is interesting to me.
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>>332529157

Oh hell no. I'm as surprised as you that people buy gil.
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>>332529472

I roleplay time to time as well but I'm tired of this relationship shit being 99% of any roleplay that goes on.
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>>332528994
Is there even a single house owner in this game who actually thinks about the design of their house and what would look good instead of just using it as an e-peen showcase? It looks so retarded going into someone's house and it's filled with glowing, spiky, flaming shit because it's hard to craft, and none of the furniture matches anything else. Imagine if real people decorated their houses like MMO autists.
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everquest next gon be da best doe faml
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>>332528845
if you're delicious, it is your duty to become a succulent meal for your master.
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>>332529646
It got canceled though senpai
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>>332529421
I want to fuck those faeries.
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>>332529646
It doesn't exist
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>>332522950
how the fuck do you get ninja dps to not be shit? I can't figure out a decent enough rotation for them
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>>332529593
Is it to your liking, anon? I know I can't decorate for shit.
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Is there a way to tell how much dps you are doing? I can't tell if I'm doing good or not.
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>>332530138
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>>332530035
Priorities
1. Keep Huton up
2. Keep slash debuff up
3. Keep DoTs up
4. Keep oGCDs on CD
5. Rotate Mudras
6. Re-apply DoTs with slash/trick Debuff
7. Mash as many oGCDs into Trick/Slash during opener
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>>332529593

Yeah on Balmung there's quite a few people who build to theme rather than for dick showcase.

I do dick showcase a bit though.
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>>332530138
WOAH WHAT

Since when could you put things on the fireplace / oven wall?
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>>332530138
>window blocked by a globe on a table
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>>332530138
Tasteful as fuck.
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>>332530281
It's a glitch.

Get a partition, a big one like Glade Partition. Put the clock on it. Force the partition with clock into the fireplace, delete the partition. The thing will hang on the fireplace now.
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boy I love Sea urchin spam when it comes to big groups!
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AST lala or MCH cat?
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>>332530881
in terms of a higher cancer concentrate?

lala
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>>332530712
I have no idea why DRKs have both Abyssal Drain and Unleash when they do almost the exact same thing just with different potencies/MP costs. I mean yeah AD has the Dark Arts effect, but there's no reason you couldn't just put that on Unleash. Just pure ability bloat.
>>
is this game casual friendly? like 2 hour a day MAXIMUM except maybe a couple days out of the month to go crazy with a raid or something...

is there a lot of girls to meet? I want to find a GF
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>>332531016
Unleash is around yourself, AD around your target.
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>>332531086
Try /xivg/ sounds like it's right up your ally.
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>>332531016
AD is also Ranged
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Fuck you /v/ I just resubbed
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>>332531086
this game was made for casuals

and surprising enough, lots of girls IRL play this game and no I don't mean trannies I mean actual females.
>>
There's nothing but primal fights going for it.
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>>332531086
I think it blends casual and hardcore pretty well.
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>>332531243
tbf lots of trannies play too.
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>>332531265
>>332531243
can I enjoy the $20 game for a while before buying anything else?
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>>332531303
only on Balmung and Faerie
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>>332531086
I met my gf ingame and through mutual friends

We've been dating for 6 months and she's flying out to see me in the summer.


There's girls in this game for sure but they're usually female only or fujobait characters.
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>>332531208
what happens to a c@ clan when Tia and Nouh COMBINE?!
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>>332531243
>and surprising enough, lots of girls IRL play this game and no I don't mean trannies I mean actual females

While this is true it's not like any of you will score anyway. Most of those girls are married or otherwise taken, not to mention that the majority are either insane, fat, ugly or a combination of the three.
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>>332531340
Yeah, you get a 30 day sub with it.
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>>332518678
Is that supposed to be impressive?
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Man, /v/ threads are so different to /vg/ threads you could write an entire thesis on that.

It's so much better here.
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>>332527981
As long as the Hack is in charge the answer will always be 'No'
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>>332531303

>Hit it off chatting with someone about games
>Figure they can be a leveling partner or do other stuff like maps together sometimes
>Friend them
>The very next day they mention they're trans and start talking about 'trans issues' like bathroom signs

How someone can go from bro-tier to this so quickly astonished me.
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>>332528994
I barely see my neighbors.
Go to Balmung, every night there is private parties going in my neighborhood, tons of houses turned into RP bars too. I only spectate but it's a great change of pace and among the RPers there is always a few people like me just here to talk about anything and enjoy the party.
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>>332531734
I am on Balmung. Where and when does it happen exactly? Sounds lovely.
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>>332515954
Hey OP, are you aware that a bad game becoming the best of its genre by having everything better than it die out is not a fucking good thing?

Whew, I'm so glad Mario and Donkey Kong games have disappeared so that Bubsy can finally be considered the best platformers ever!
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>>332531340
You don't have to worry about the expansion until you beat the entire base game first or unless you really want to become a dragon person.
>>
>game is for casuals
>I still find it really challenging
I think it's time to end my life, or just unsub for a while, I just don't find the game fun like I think I used to.
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>>332523786
Meh meh meh! What has happened to Linly's face?
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>>332531793
Decorate my private chambers please
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>>332531435
Extinction.
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>>332531734

>tons of houses turned into RP bars too

Pretty much the reason I stopped trying to roleplay in MMOs, senpai. 3 hours of people giving exposition on their shit-tier backstory and then heading back to their rooms to fuck isn't my idea of fun roleplay. Which is almost all of it.
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>>332531208
>>
I really wish the next expansion drops PS3 so we can finally have areas without loading screens or invisible walls.
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>>332532074
Modern MMOs aren't exactly conducive to real roleplaying.
>Tally ho, adventurers, it's time to rid this dungeon of the evil wizard.... for the 5th time this week
>You're a legendary god-slaying hero? No way, me too!
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>>332532203
but they are dropping PS3
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>>332531435
Nunh aren't fags.
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>>332532376
you never know man compensating for something so much

like Roes and Highlanders
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>>332532203
I think you should just upgrade to a pc or ps4.
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>>332532203
PS4 limitations.
Laziness limitations.
Will have to remake the entire game limitations.
Nothing will change in 4.0.
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>>332532484
I already play on PC, but it sucks that I have to deal with console limitations because a decade old console with 512mb of RAM can't keep up.
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>>332519978
Leviathan
AST
Au Ra
Female
>>
It's really amusing and also terrifying how every opinion /v/ normally holds becomes fucking Opposite Day when MMOs are involved.

>Call of Duty and mobile games pander to the least common denominator, you can't use financial success as a barometer of quality.

>WELL FF14 HAS 2 MILLION SUBSCIBERS AND THAT MANY PEOPLE CANT BE WRONG!

>Video games are getting too accessible and losing their core market

>OLDER MMOS WERE TOO HARD BEING PISS EASY IS THE FUTURE GET WITH THE PROGRAM GRANDPA
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>>332532490
>PS4 limitations.

i'm willing to bet more than half of the people that play this on computers play on toasters less powerful than a PS4
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>>332519978
Gilgamesh
PLD/MNK/BLM
Sea Wolf Roe
Male
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>>332532686

Older MMOs weren't hard. They were just tedious.
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>>332531793
Explore instances of the Mist or Lavender Beds on Friday nights and try to look for hosue with people discussing in the front garden, most events are kept secret by the FC hosting the event, so you have to be a bit lucky. You can also check the front panel of each house with active people around, it's often on these you'll see if it's an event thing.

On Balmung there is also the weekly tavern night every Thursday at Lavender Beds, Ward 5, Plot 58.

I've been there twice, no ERP shit just a few people RPing in a comfy manor.
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Why was the levelling experience so much more comfy a year ago compared to now?
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>>332532807
This is fantastic, thank you so much! I'll definitely check it out.

>>332532007
Haha sorry, I am nowhere near good at decorating and I got tons of help myself.
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>>332532686
It's 5 million accounts actually.
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Left or right door
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>>332532863
It's still comfy to me but that's probably because chat is more lively with novice network now.
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>>332533060

>Things aren't even aligned to be symmetric

Reeeeee
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>>332533060
Vg door.
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>>332532686
Fuck L2.
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>Novice Network set to opt-in through a command
>There are currently 15 mentors (max. 100)
GENIUS
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>Bard players
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>>332533382
There is just something special about them.
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How would you like your A8N wipe mang?

Tanks dying early?

Healers eating Mega Beam?

DPS failing to grab adds?

How about some Auto-clean to give you a fresh start?
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>>332531208
Gay
>>
>be me patch 1.8
>trying two months to clear Titan EX
>get really good group except one healer
>"Why do you keep dying senpai?"
>"Ohh there is too much lag my PS3 can't handle it"
>My PS3 can't handle it
>PS3
>*click menu
>goto party members
>select votekick reason harassment
>get new WHM
>clear trail
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>training party no bonus
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>>332533503
I'd like a serving of tanks failing to get aggro on brute justice and getting the healer double rocket punched
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>>332533503
Melee that are too fucking lazy to attack the adds.
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>>332533643
>be me patch 1.8
>trying two months to clear Titan EX
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>>332533382
In every fucking MMO archer players are the worst. Nobody remembers hunters from WoW or rangers from RO?
>>
>>332533643
>>
>>332533724
Well maybe don't Divine Seal Medica 2 for trivial transition damage you fucker
>>
Are games beginning to die off, or at least how much we play them at least?
I know that seems kind of like a sensationalist headline, but it really is beginning to feel like a slow decay of video games as an entertainment medium.
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>>332533848
>implying this matters

Unless the healer is spamming cure 3 and trying to steal hate, the tank is shit if they can't properly pick the boss up in time.
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>>332533643
>1.8
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>Leveling BLM
>Get Firestarter
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>>332533503

How about being the only melee dps, taking out the NW/NE exploding adds and there's still 1 or 2 that go off in the SW/SE corners.
>>
>>332532293
Roleplaying as the hero of the story is shit tier, but the lore in FFXIV at least support the idea that anyone with Echo can kill a Primal. It's happened several times in the past. WoL isn't the only one who's managed it. Even the SMN quest talks about the many expeditions to kill Ifrit, and the villain Tristan is one of the people who's survived it.
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>>332533895
Because MMOs no longer require poopsock-tier grinding that absolutely necessitates having no life? Get a grip.
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>>332531003
>he thinks that cats aren't the most unpleasant players

I like the race but it attracts /xivg/ people
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>>332533686
>DR Trial
>Good King Mog Hard
>No bonus
>Wipe 3 times

Shitters who got carried still need training
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>>332534503
Nigger every race attracts /xivg/ people for their own reasons.

You fucking clown.
>>
>>332534505

Did you mark which ones to attack?
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>>332534684

That hasn't mattered since ilvl 60.
>>
How long until PS3 is dropped?
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>>332534684
Yup. DPS kept attacking King or the tanks
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>>332526085
>One zone away from GC hub

Yeah nah, Limsa is utter shit tier.
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how are you guys making gil? I have some crafts 60 and botanist 60 but the gil just doesn´t flow.
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>be me, i190 PLD
>enter Bismark EX with some pug group
>get to snake bird thing phase
>group leader pulls opposite add off then blames me for the wipe
>tell him that he should know the mechanics
>responds by kicking me from party
>group members thought that was shit, join my party finder
>see autist tank post attempt clear party in PF for 3 weeks straight after I got clear
>mfw
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>>332534679
You're delusional if you think that most of the posters there don't play cats
>>
>>332534861
if you have to ask you'll never know
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>>332534826
>being a Maelshit

Serves you right.
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>>332535013
>Implying
Suck a dick anon, Limsa is just shitty in general. There's no reason to go there when having a FC with a house right next to the market board is literally 100x faster than porting to Limsa.
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>>332535013
>TP to my house right next to the MB
>Don't have my frames die due to 4000 afk people under the tree in limsa
>TP to Ul'dah, GC is right there

There is no better option.
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>>332535350
I have this but adders.
Comfier.
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>>332533503
No matter what, without fail, everytime, the DPS in DF are always 100% completely and utterly autistic.

What is it about being a DPS that suddenly makes everyone who plays it autistic as fuck? I don't understand.
>>
>>332526085
You can teleport two steps away from the marketplace in Ul'dah, the Adventure's Guild Crystal puts you right next to the zone and the bells/market board are right next to where you zone in. I'd actually say Gridania is the worst of the three in terms of convienience.
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MINFILLIA'S BIG FAT FUCKING TITS!
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>>332533503
>3 smn
>they can't kill the adds fast enough because they damage take time or doesn't have afters up
>explode
>wipe
>happens again
>leave

Smn is nice but they suck to kill individual adds.
>>
>>332526085
Ul'dah >>>>>> Gridania >>>>> Limsa.

If you aren't a complete shut-in and actually have a house next to a Market Board, there's literally no justifiable reason to go to Limsa, ever.

Both Ul'dah and Gridania have their GC hubs in the same zone, but Ul'dah's is closer overall.
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>>332535561
DED SLUT
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>>332535578

No excuse with 200 potency Ruin 3.

>but muh MP

Shut up
>>
>>332535561
PADDING
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>>332530175
Download act with the ffxiv parser plugin. Or do land sea sky
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>>332535578
Ruin3 is a thing. Also just bio if you know they aren't going to blow up after a couple of ruin 3's, but wont be up long enough for the other 2 main dots.
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>>332535561
>mfw this dumb whore finally kicket the bucket

Deep down I know it's only temporary, but never has a story cutscene made me so happy as this one.
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>>332535013
>he isn't a part of Merlwyb's domme group

lmaoing
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>Merlwyb
>muh limsa lominsa
>muh pirate pride
>muh people
>leaves you to die in the banquet
>Slafyrsyn is even more badass than her
Why dodo we like her again?
>>
>>332536396
People think her grandma voice and sideburns are attractive somehow. She's the shittiest leader. Limsa's method of picking admiral is the dumbest shit. It's a fucking boat race.
>>
>>332536396
Big fat Roe tats.
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>tfw male roe
>gay
>be insta friend of all the gay roes
>they invite you to all kind of events
>always something to talk about

Being a roe is great
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>>332536729
Kill yourself, degenerate
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>>332536729

Fuck off
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>>332536729

Male roe here, my best friend that I met back in 2010 XIV 1.0 is also a male roe and he told me he was gay two years ago.

We're still bros and I think nothing of it.
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>>332536935
do you rp with him?
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>>332535617
>Ul'dah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU
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>do leveling roulette at 59
>be close enough to level with one roulette
>get a trial instead of a dungeon
>fuckmylife.jpeg
>see guy in cutscene and know he is new
>fucker watches whole fucking storymode cutscene
>fight finally starts after 10 min
>wipe in 30sec
>look at player
>leave immediately
>take 30 min penalty
>mfw all of the players were new
>mfw they would not leave because they were all friends
>mfw they didn't have their job classes yet
>mfw they wipe 6 times and want to keep going
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>>332537230
>leveling roulette
>get Ifrit
>done
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>>332536396
Don't forget
>we invade the beast tribe's lands and kill their families
>oh no they are asking their gods for help
>please help us warrior of light
>WE DIDN DUDU NUFFIN
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>>332537297

Congrats to your 30k exp
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>>332536396
Merlwyb and Kann-E-Senna left for a reason. They definitely would help but they couldn't for political reasons.
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>>332536972

By literal definition yes we do without obnoxious second-hand embarrassment macros. ERP? Nope.
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>not being Adders
Hugging sylphs and moogles every day.
>>
J U S T + F U C K M Y S H I T U P.C0M Sell cheap gil , as low as $2.6/mil ,safe ,easy and queck with shippment in only 5 mins delivery, come on, my friend
>>
>>332537841
>not Firend
ONE JOB
>>
>>332537841
Find all 5 eggs, big prize you will get!
>>
>>332537468
WE WUZ PIE RATS N SHIET
>>
>>332537765
post characters
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>>332537792
I'd rather hug Raya-O

>>332537841
Existence is reasonable
Let's make it better
>>
>>332538067

I'm at work, all the screenshots I take with him are at home.
>>
>>332538286
is he cute with you? tell us
>>
>>332537841
haven't gotten nearly as much of those since I moved to the EU servers. shit was rampant on NA
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>>332536729
This

Until that one fag roe starts up drama
>>
>>332538537
your roe has a nice and round bulge? post it
>>
>>332538537
>>332538537
>complete barafag but I like playing as shota mages
>gay roes don't take me seriously

Fuck...I knew I should have mained tank. I like my lala SCH too much not to mention that I hate the idea of Roe SCH
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>>332536729
>>
>>332537015
>Ul'dah
That's a funny way to spell Limsa
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>>332538748
Fuck off
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>>332538807
Limsa smells like alcohol.
>>332538825
Gas the gays.
>>
>>332538730
>Main a Roe tank
>Everyone thinks I know exactly what I'm doing even when I don't

I don't think there's a better race/class combination.
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>>332538718
o-okay
>>
>>332526916
What sword is that?
>>
>>332538979
>main roe blm and sch
>almost naked al the time
>everyone see me as a pro
>>
>>332539020
The compensator
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>>332538878
>The current year
>Not being gay

The fuck is wrong with you you disgusting breeder faggot
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>>332538979
Keep dreaming, shitters are noticed no matter the race. The worst tanks and healers I had were roes.
>>
I've been thinking about getting into ffxiv for a while and wanna play some ff before XV comes out.
How is the combat here? Is it some modification of ATB or is it like newer entries?
>>
1.0 was so much better and you plebeians had it killed so you could play another WoW clone.
>>
>enter dungeon
>see lalafel tank
>leave

Plot with brothers over the inevitable Lalacaust.
>>
>>332539567
Yeah the combat was so intense
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>>332519978
Behemoth
Monk
Highlander
Male
>>
>>332539567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5DnpidMiY
Looked better, that's it.
>>
>>332536396
they're company leaders, there's a reason you're supposed to be loyal to them and not the other way around
>>
>>332539858
Explain raubahn being a bro then
>>
>>332539020
it's the 205 pvp DRK sword

or is it 215? the newest one.

This is the MCH gun and it's the best looking one
>>
>>332539717
>>332539850

>how do i know i'm the hero if i dont have to walk out of the fire every now and then???
>>
>>332539850
>those casting animation
D-did they reused the FFXI ninjutsu animations for FUCKING SPELLS?
>>
>>332539858
>Loyal to someone who can't protect me and will run away

wew
>>
>>332539285
Its not nice to make shit up, catfag
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>you'll never rank up above second lieutenant
I'm taking Kan-e place and making her my mistress!
>>
>>332540421
New GC ranks are coming in 3.3, finally.
>took them 3 years to add new GC ranks
>>
>>332540421
They already confirmed new ranks for the next patch
>>
>>332540030
if your hand was just chopped off after you started raging around after feeling betrayed by some a sandnigger that you thought was your best friend would you let your only chance of survival escape or would you just be like nah whatever
>>332540205
no, you should be loyal to someone smart enough to move away from a conflict that would get two military factions on their ass
>>
>>332516234

Nobody fucking cares you inflated sense of self worth having faggot
>>
>>332540572
some sandnigger*
>>
this thread needs more /vg/
>>
>>332516057
FF14 is hardly alive. It has less than 400k subs
>>
>>332540078
>tfw all these disgusting fucking casuals can pick up the PvP gear without even having worked for it

I bet you're rank 30 something
>>
>>332540572
>Merlwyb
>smart
Yeah let's rape thesee native beast tribes without thinking about the consequences
>>
>>332540485
I guess they don't want to blow their load too soon and have nowhere left to go once everyone is Champion.

I wish they kept following real military ranks after captain though. Commander is okay but Marshal/Champion is dumb.
>>
>>332540724
it has 2 Millions
>>
>>332540749
>playing pvp
kek
>>
>>332540696
meme me mmem lmao cat face
there you go, a taste of /vg/
>>332540724
pretty sure it's dropping, too
>>332540772
fuck merlwyb, but it certainly wouldn't have taken a genius to realize that situation was awful for them
>>
>>332540796
You are literally a godslayer though. They're not going to stick you in a desk where you can lead a division, they're going to sic you on more gods.
>>
>>332540078
What coat is that? 0.0
>>
>>332540572
I can see the lalas being jews and pit the flames versus limsa/gridania if merlwyb and Kann-E interfere

But what other military force would fight them?
>>
>>332540817
No. It doesnt.

Its a known fact, coming from Squeenix's mouth, that their top 3 MMO's only have 1 million subs, COMBINED. Those being Dragon quest X, FF11, and FF14.

FF14 has less than 400k subs, and that is being generous, because I suspect that DQX, which is vastly superior and more popular, holds the lions share of subs
>>
>>332540724
770k as of January according to the Lodestone
>>
>>332532490
Mmos aren't that fancy spec wise, the only reason the ps3 is bad is because of the lack of ram
>>
>>332540998
the blues
>>
>>332541053
>wow its fucking nothing
>>
>>332535578
I'm able to maintain 1300 dps at all times during a8n and have a blm friend who keeps it at 1450. People in df don't know how to play their classes it isn't the class itself problem. The entire normal fight is doable with a full party of bards who can at best mainbtain a 1000 - 1100 dps each.
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anyone knows any decent guild on odin?
its so lonely the only time people talk is at the start of a dungeon just saying hi to be polite.
im pretty autistic to when it comes to having online friends but there has to be a guild with people like me right?
still leveling btw so i can't ride or do anything worthwhile for now.
>>
>>332540941
>implying you are not one of those
>meme me mmem lmao cat face ppl
well, at least next time you make one of these threads
dont make a misleading OP, just say what it is
came here in hopes of discussion about mmo's
and not ff
but still
fuck off, you should be contained
>>
>>>332540675

>All these (yous)
>Nobody cares

Keep 'em coming.
>>
>>332540893
>Not playing PvP
How are those "Extreme" primals going for you, shitter
>>
>>332541017
it was 1 million each one
>>
>>332541032
>the lodestone

so you have no source then.

Because squeenix refuses to share the sub numbers. We both know why that is.
>>
>>332539567
Literally the only people who say this never played
>>
>>332541173
oh i fucked up meant ragnarok server.
>>
>>332540157
If I wanted to play a shitter version of FFXI I'd play FFXI.

FFXIV 1.0 was trash.
>>
>>332541462
http://www.polygon.com/2015/1/2/7480177/square-enix-final-fantasy-14-final-fantasy-11-dragon-quest-10-subscribers

No it wasnt.

How're you liking the taste of shit?
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