Holy shit this is gold. Since /v/'s opinion on VR was "gimmick" and "eye cancer" I've been to /r/Oculus for some news and discussion.
But now when Rift has launched people have gotten their hands on them and found out lots of problems, including:
>halo effect in lenses
>shitty FoV
>uncomfortable straps
>Oculus Store being FB 2.0 and wanting your full names and info
>closed platform by default
and so on
Redditors have gone crazy. The fanboyism is worse than here and everyone complains like
>"the fov is so small, what do I do? :("
>"my review: lots of problems but I love it!"
>"cancelling my order"
>"they're lying, it's perfect"
>"let's just calm down here"
>"please let's act like adults"
So now that Rift is proven to be shit, we're going to wait for Vive to come out for consumesr and then buy it right?
Where are the porn games
we all knew the VR shit was nothing but a fad, people just don't like having to wear a fucking headset for things you could do perfectly fine before, i hope it does on this year.
>>332504095
There are tons of them already out. Also 3D videos on Pronhub for example
>>332504195
So you've never tried it
Vive won't solve anything because as with OR all the games are shit.
>>332504493
It's one of those things people try once or two times and go wow! Totally amazing and then just go back to doing things like before because at the end, when they hype blows off, its more of a chore than something practical, kinda like the failure of 3D TVs.
I hope it dies, im being honest.
Robots > AR > VR
Facebook might have killed the entire momentum for VR by pushing Oculus ahead of the Vive at any cost
The roomscale and 1:1 motion controls is what ties it all together, make it more than just playing a game with a monitor on your head - the effect of presence being the jump from 2d to 3d everyone's expecting from VR
By elbowing their way in with something that is not complete in the feeling of presence - and exploiting their name to make their brand the default brand in eyes of the normalfags we now run a real risk of the WiiU effect among normies
I've already seen people even here on /v/ say that the Vive isn't for them because they don't really care for the roomscale stuff, even tho the Vive with it's motion controls and 360 degree motion may still be better than the Rift at these things - like the idea's been spread that full immersion VR is the "other" stuff
>>332505313does this get lewd at some point
>>332503925
>going to wait for Vive to come out for consumesr and then buy it right?
Possibly. I have higher hopes for the HTC Vive, considering it is actually made by companies that know how to make hardware and software.
>>332505380
all the shills are in full force after OR release
can't wait for the disappointment when Vive comes out
Also if these faggots are not shills, how is it possible they have the Vive?
>>332504493
>So you've never tried it
This is the biggest fucking fanboy thing these drones say
>any and all perfectly valid complaints, such as "It's going to be uncomfortable wearing a big ass screen on your face" "It's a gimmick" "You can play games just fine on a monitor" are met with
>No bro......you just gotta try it...
Face it, it's a fucking gimmick
>>332505313
>tfw destined to be lonely despite being somewhat attractive and having a big dick because I'm a social retard
I'll always have 4chan, right?
>>332505687
no fuck off faggot
>>332505620
>How do you know it's shit? It isn't even out yet!
>How do you know it's shit? You don't even own one.
>How do you know it's shit? You've only played it for 10 hours.
>Yeah well you've never made one so you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>332505876
>How do you know it's shit?
>"I bought one and played for weeks"
>There's no way you'd play for that long if you thought it was shit :^)
>>332505687
>somewhat attractive and having a big dick
>social retard
>I'll always have 4chan, right?
Yes, but only if become a qt trap.
The Rift itself is actually fine, unless you're into E:D, because that lens flare in white-on-black scenes really looks annoying
It's just that, for some reason, Oculus put ZERO money into getting actual games
For fucks sake why didn't they just drop 200 mil on bethesda to shit out some ebin VR rpg
>>332506069
I feel like the Vive launch will be similar, the only hope for games is Sony.
I assume Sony is making a lot of VR games because they haven't made any non-VR games in a few years so they must have been doing something... right?
>>332506069
>unless you're into E:D
THATS THE WHOLE REASON I WANT THIS VR SHIT GOD FUCKING DAMN ITand autism truck
>>332505380
Majority of /v/ wants it to fail at any cost. Theres some sick satisfaction with stagnation on this board.
If theres some weebshit rehash game hitting the market they cream their pants and cant contain the hype.
>>332506241
Autism truck works fine
But yeah, E:D (or anything that has pitch-black backgrounds and bright UI) is fucked, hope you enjoy lens flare
>>332506270
You're confusing desire with expectation.
Nobody here wants it to fail, we're just less delusional that other places.
This is one of those scenarios where they could learn a bit from console launches. If a console launched without any must have games, it'd be dead in the water too.
Man, I really kind of hate the current vr fad,
But,
I'm going to have to buy the stupid playstation vr for rez infinite and whatever fromsoft ends up coming up with.
I really don't want to pay $400 to play 2 games but I know it's going to happen.
>that fov on the Rift.
oh fuck
>>332503925
This is odd. I tried one of the early release ones out and it seemed fine outside of fairly low fidelity graphics
>>332506270
Where do you think an underaged kid is going to get $600 or $800 out of the blue?
>>332506414
I dont know, its an endless line of calling it a gimmick and hoping its forgotten from the posts ive read.
We cant expect VR to be perfect from the first consumer release.
>>332506538
People call it a gimmick because that's irrefutably what it is.
That doesn't mean they want it to fail.
The Wii was also a gimmick and it was a flash craze that my mother loved for a week and quickly forgot about.
>>332506270
Wanting it to fail and knowing it will fail are two completely separate things. It's gimmicky as fuck and overpriced as hell. This is literally only going to appeal to rich people who want it as a hobby. Especially when you consider you need a beefy as fuck pc to run it as well
>LOL IT'S GONNA FAIL AND BE A NICHE IM SO SMART
Are you aware that Oculus has been saying for ages now that it will be a niche until hardware gets way more affordable?
>>332503925
>actually falling for Gen1 VR
You fuccbois realize it's not going to be good until at least Gen3, right?
>only two people have called out the redditor
/v/ is truly dead
>>332506650
>STOP SAYING IT WILL FAIL IT WONT IT WONT IT WONT
It's going to be niche as in production will be stopped when people aren't buying them. Even if it was affordable it doesn't change the fact that it's gimmicky as fuck and games will be much better to be played in traditional methods
>>332506741
It's about all the games being shit you retard.
>>332506792
>what are sims
This is as good as confirmed to be the next evolution of headtracking for people not simple enough to be entertained by your average AAA game
>>332506626
>>332506631
The wii is a different beast. What was the future of that technology beyond selling consoles?
Virtual reality has been a goal for generations. Its not just about strapping a monitor to the head. It encompasses simulating a world and replicating as many senses as possible.
But the contrarian /v/fags and their hateboners can only dream of it failing so they can feel smug playing 2D games for another decade.
>>332506072
post pics of it then faggot.
You have 10 seconds to tell me why isn't VR a gimmick, name one thing, just ONE that you wouldn't be able to do with a fuckin screen?
>preorders sold out
>hundreds of thousands of units sold within minutes
>oculus can't even keep up with production
I remember when /v/ said that nobody was going to buy this
>w-w-w-well people bought it huh
>BUT THEY'LL BE BORED SOON JUST WATCH
>>332506893
>It encompasses simulating a world and replicating as many senses as possible.
>It puts a monitor really close to your face.
The Wii was the future of input control, you simulated real waggling to improve immersion in a way never done before.
It was a gimmick.
>>332506959
kissing your waifu
You could see this coming after reading some of the comments on the GiantBomb stream.
>>332503925
hows the vive?
Supposed to get mine in may
>>332504659
>It's one of those things people try once or two times and go wow! Totally amazing and then just go back to doing things like before because at the end, when they hype blows off, its more of a chore than something practical
Sounds exactly like my experience with motion controls
>>332507157
also has lens flare, slightly bigger fov which also results in blurrier image
>>332506959
Look around using your head.
>>332506441
Wow that's bad.
>>332506650
Blatant lie.
Palmer Cuckley wanted VR to be mainstream since Rift's inception. He talked about the "350$ ballpark".
Than Valve revealed its revenge plan to punish Oculus for sell out to Facebook, with the many research and data Valve donated to Oculus. At this point Cuckley shitted his pants and realized Valve would have released the best headset and done a U turn about the price/value.
At the moment the Vive is objectively the best hmd, no matter if you believe or not in VR. In a 800$ package you have everything you need for a "complete" VR experience and not a glorified 3d monitor.
To;dr: Valve nailed from the start the first gen VR would have been a niche market and worked to release a "complete" experience.
Oculus will release the rift with a Xbox controller... and then you will have to buy the motion controllers to "enjoy" a seated experience.
Pathetic Cuckley get tucked in the ass and creampied in the mouth by HTC Vive.
>>332506959
Look around in a virtual space by moving your head.
>>332507226
I can think of roughly a thousand games which let you look around.
>>332507203
Its alight I'm half bilnd anyway
>>332506959
Getting a stereoscopic image? fucking retard
>>332506959
Move your head in any direction while still having full visibility of the simulated world.
If you just have tracking and no VR setup, you will forever lose yourself the moment you cant see the screen.
>>332505535
Yes.
>>332506414
I do want it to fail tho. VR is just another step towards games becoming less like games
>>332506967
>>BUT THEY'LL BE BORED SOON JUST WATCH
They will without any games to play on it
:^)
So I tried Cardboard with a QHD Samsung phone that allegedly has a higher pixel density than the Rift. The pixellation was fucking horrid. If the Rift has a lower pixel density, I'd imagine it looks much worse.
How can people put up with this? You can literally see the RGB tiles in each pixel.
>>332507279
Your asking for things you cant do without VR. Looking around with just your physical head is one of them unless you use manage to use your mouse with your face. .
>>332507482
>Making things up
Stop wanting it to fail.
>>332507482
>mobile VR
anon just no, even the fucking devkits are superior to any cardboard mobile VR shit, regardless of theoretical resolution
>>332503925
>Topic: Basic civility will now be a requirement in /r/oculus
translation: only say nice things about the Oculus or get fukken baned :)
>>332504195
The Giant Bomb Stream pretty much showed how most people will react to VR.
>One or two games really sucked them in
>The rest they were questioning why they were even on VR
>They spent the better part of their time looking bored and ripping into it
>They got so bored they started screwing around with video effects
>One of them even says the novelty wears off right around a week after getting it
>They start complaining how most of the games are basically slightly interactive films with pretty imagery
>They start wanting more actual influence
>Motion sickness seems to force developers into making games that way
>Normal camera controls with a joystick while playing seem to make people incredibly disoriented
As of current it's a fucking flop.
>>332507508
Doing a control differently isn't a revolution of technology.
I can't control my Autism Truck Simulator with my foot unless I have a pedal. That doesn't mean a pedal isn't a useless gimmick.
I can control all these things with a regular ass gamepad just fine though. How does neck control add anything of value? It's literally a gimmick.
>>332507601
I'm usually defending the rift as a piece of hardware, but the software that oculus decided to launch with is a fucking disaster, might be enough to kill the entire concept
>>332507010
The dream cast was doing it way before the wii. Sega pretty much were the pioneers of interactivity
>>332507632
It's because of the IMMERSHION bro, that's what games are about now
>>332507553
But people are already complaining about the screen door effect on the Oculus and Vive. And a QHD mobile screen has a higher pixel density. Look up some comparisons.
>>332507702
You mean that fishing controller? The Wiimote was actually a bit better than that because it had pointer functions that allowed for a pretty accurate light gun experience on flatscreens (at least if the devs bothered, like SEGA did)
>>332503925
>So now that this gimmicky shit is proven to be shit, we're going to wait for a more expensive gimmicky shit to come out for consumers and then buy it right?
>>332507739
>VR makes you look autistic
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>>332507739
this already seems made for the "i can only play videogames 30 mins a day" casual garbage crowd.
I honestly hope it bombs, and the worse it does, the happier i will be.
>>332507739
THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAMES
>>332507676
That's the problem I'm seeing with both the Oculus and the Vive, developers do not seem to have questions clue how to make a normal game playable using this tech. Apparently any form of artificially applied movement like the jostling of the camera in GTA5 will be a one way ticket to puking your guts out. Also apparently freely moving around with any chance of sudden drastic changes without moving does something similar.
As a result all of the developers instead of spending the time trying to find a safe way to manage camera and movement without making people sick have simply went the safe lazy route of having you teleport around or simply having the game run on rails at a set pace.
>>332507853
>i can only play videogames 30 mins a day
maybe for you, fatty
>>332507942
Oculus could've easily financed a VR mech warrior game
That shit would've worked flawlessly in VR and would've even attracted /v/
but no instead they decided to go with 30 shovelware indie games
>>332507739
That's so embarrassing, holy shit.
>>332508051
Why?
>>332508010
>lacks reading comprehension
>pulls the fat card to defend his casual gimmicky garbage
Holy hell, you're fucking stupid.
>>332507838
>>332508051
>>332508010
>eyes already fucked
>broke expensive shit in my own room because i have to move around like a retard just to play videogames
Yeah, this seems like lots of fun.
>>332506784
>I carry out justice by screaming reddit at things that trigger me
>>332508116
Because he looks fucking retarded? Who the fuck wants to play shitty phone-level games while spinning around their rooms looking like retards?
>>332507739
jeez, my whole flat is half the size of that room
I have to fold my bed away if I want to play my drums
I don't think VR is for me...
>>332508151
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>332508151
These VR games remind me of the hordes of shovelware available for the Wii.
>>332508050
There's a couple of mech tech demos.
>>332508151
...How much is the rift again? Forgotten the price.
>>332508151
>he was playing THAT
VR, everybody.
>>332508151
>$700 headset to play this
>>332508151
that's not something I'd play normally.
are there any good games?
this seems to be a massive oversight in favour of the actual tech
>>332508248
>are there any good games?
I think you know the answer to that.
>>332508237
>It's been 11 years since your father died
>Says this with a big fucking smile
>>332508190
As opposed to looking like a retarded vegetable sitting in a chair all day?
Who gives a fuck.
>>332508153
I've said since day one those motion controls will never take off.
The only way that will work and keep people interested is if you just keep making a bunch of small games to play on bursts much like Wii Sports.
A huge chunk of gamers have work and outside lives, they are tired when they come home, the last thing they want to do regularly is run around their living room frantically waving their arms around to play some game while running the risk of knocking things over or breaking them.
We have the headset, we just need the control methods. Oculus has already demonstrated that VR with a traditional controller is a gimmick at best.
Surely it can't be that difficult to make some kind of gloves for VR that can track finger movement, right?
>>332508190
Who the fuck cares how you look? VR is not going to look like Tom Cruise controlling the computer in Minority Report.
>>332508317
>thinks that looking like a faggot with big black sunglasses on is worse than sitting down to play vidya
How is oculus anything more than a TV screen that's attached to your face with some gyro controls?
>>332508408
Isn't it stereoscopic 3D?
>>332508408
It's two cell phone screens, silly.
>>332508360
And most who don't fit into that category don't want to be doing that shit in the first place.
>>332508367
Finger tracking already exists for VR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YKZHoOjnjw
Question:
Does anyone even use the 3D function of their 3DS?
>>332508367
Sure goy, we'll get right on developing the peripherals you want. 300 bucks for every limb! We'll promise you that it won't get boring after a week.
>>332508151
>>332508239
Its an unfortunate outcome that Vive is populated by this kind of crap but them's the breaks when no developer has had time to make real games.
>>332507601
>no ring around eyes where the thing was pressing against his face
>>332508317
You look normal while sitting in a chair, you retard.
>>332508370
Your friends and family will.
>>332508461
That's the kind of shit I'm talking about.
What's even the point of VR if you are still just going to use a regular controller?
So what are the chances of the Vive or PSVR being significantly better than the travesty that the Oculus launch was?
Should I get off the hype train while I can?
>>332508474
I don't cause shit makes my eyes hurt and makes it hard to see what's going on. Fuck 3d,the faster this stupid fad fades the better
>>332508151
Jesus fuck, that makes Wii Sports look hardcore as fuck.
>>332508558
I'm putting my money on PSVR having the best launch library out of all 3.
>>332507601
Any video of said stream? Sounds hilarious
>>332508558
PSVR already has confirmed real games (many even already out) that will work on it. Not just things that are worth a 30 second look for a tech demo.
>>332508558
Oculus will be roughly on par (although PSVR will have the least grunt) with them once it has motion controls.
The problem is lack of games with real content. If you can latch onto something like a flight sim you'll get your monies worth.
>>332508652
>what? you don't like this 800$ turd? you're just poor
Great argument.
>>332508474
I do, it's nothing game defining though.
>>332508652
This
Sour grapes /v/, sour grapes.
>>332504976
>literally less FOV than the DK2
what went wrong?
>>332508645
http://youtu.be/imlbNXF6gpM
>>332508652
>>332508746
Enjoy your emperor's new clothes, retards.
>ITT
>people who did not use VR for waifu games and cockpit games
It definitely won't replace normal gaming on a screen, but it's the future for you if you have an interest in those two genres
>>332506741
There won't be a gen 3 if nobody buys the first
>>332503925
It was all over the moment facecuck bought oculus
>>332508784
Thanks for the spoonfeed babycakes you're my doll
>>332508832
>and cockpit games
Let's be honest. VR exists solely for waifuism.
>>332508652
I can easily afford to buy an oculus and an accompanying computer if I wanted to, but guess what, I don't.
>>332506069
Lens flare?
Is this some new release only stuff?
E:D dark backgrounds were fine in the DK2, well aside from black smear and when it shit itself.
Also I assume black smear hasnt been fixed and is simply being taken as "normal" now considering I never hear a word of it
>>332508832
>but it's the future for you if you have an interest in those two genres
Except it isn't. Cockpit games are far better with a single high resolution display because 3D depth adds nothing to the genre, and being able to see what your hands are doing is a massive fucking deal when you've got a few button boxes or controls that aren't directly under your fingers at all times, like half the start-up procedures for sim games.
>>332508652
Yeah m8 I'm so jelly of Lucky's Tail and Gear VR port #8
>>332508879
its 2016, marketing reigns supreme, theres always enough retards to buy the first
>>332509039
Black Smear is fixed, lens flare is new and a side effect of new lenses, which is hilarious
>>332509063
I still remember when people disregarded trackIR, since povhats work so much better
Also I assume you have never flown a chopper, or flown anything at low altitude
>>332503925
>closed platform by default
Oh no, I have to go into the settings and change something. How did we let Oculus get away with this?
>>332509063
>3D depth adds nothing to the genre
Yeah, just look at all those real life pilots who are blind on one eye
>>332509138
>Black Smear is fixed, lens flare is new and a side effect of new lenses, which is hilarious
Oh it is?
Thats cool atleast, with the prototypes people told me its still there
Well honestly I expected little else, as someone above already said - oculus can choke on a dick for forcing out their headset before the Vive without controllers, this is exactly how you gimp a growing industry
> Buying 1st gen tech
> Ever.
Laffed hard.
>>332506069
I agree completely, the lack of investment on a AAA flagship game was a major mistake.
Gimmicky games make for "gimmicky" reviews.
You cut out 20 of these small launch titles for one must-have VR exclusive and there would be serious fervor to buy the tech.
Fucking Valve could do better as well, noone expects a HL3 to be developed in time but at least have a major game in the oven that you can tease as a VR flagship.
>>332509220
Eh, no motion controllers is a good deal if you only care about simulators
TOO BAD FUCKING OCULUS DIDN'T HELP EAGLE DYNAMICS WITH GETTING THEIR SHIT WORKING FOR THE LAUNCH REEEEEEEEEEE
>I've been to /r/
Stopped reading there.
>>332509275
It would be a good deal if they didnt force an xbone into the pack
And if we had simulators worth a fucking shit to play in it
I thought I would be maximum hype at this time for Rift+E:D, but I'm not even sure which fizzled out more, E:D or the Rift.
>>332505687
>being somewhat attractive and having a big dick
You don't have to lie on a anonymous board, anon.
>>332509220
They forced it out for nothing as well, they have literally fulfilled no preorders. Only a handful of Kickstarter backers in the USA exclusively have recieved them.
The press just randomly got some as well just in time for release day.
>>332509358
ED is utter shit and I'm saying that as DK2 owner
Waifu games made the 400$ investment worth it though, completely
>>332509138
>I still remember when people disregarded trackIR,
And what you're not understanding is that this is just a far more expensive system that doesn't work as well. The downsides of decreased resolution and being unable to see your hands are massive compared to the benefit of "dude, it's more NATURAL".
>>332509204
Losing 60% of your potential vision is a major game-changer, or at least it was back when dogfighting was actually a thing. Having no 3D depth isn't anywhere close to the same as only having one eye.
>>332503925
is this a script or is vive shill really active 24/7?
>>332509221
>he didn't buy the Magnavox Odyssey
>>332509416
I already sold my DK2
What waifu game has made it worth it for you?
I looked at some models and jacked off a few times, but it wasnt comfy enough, kept fogging up the lenses and shit
I'll be ready to buy a VR headset once they got monitor-like clarity in their image, just for comfy theater modes and virtual desktops.
>>332509393
Hardly surprising after the DK2 delivery
Its not like faceshit has money to spend....
What do you expect from a technology that does nothing except improve immersion?
It's not disruptive at all, in fact it's the opposite of disruptive.
The real reason VR is shit is because the developers and fanboys were so in love with the smell of their own farts that they thought VR would sell without games. Or that people would buy a machine without games for $599.
See: Sony circa 2006
Why do you faggots want everything to fail? If you want a $100 crystal clear wireless VR HMD with a lot of games and support, we need to get through the first generation before all that.
>people have had dev kits in their hands for 3 full years, have the collective wisdom of decades of game development, and yet still have no fucking idea how to make a decent VR game that can hold your attention for more than 20 minutes
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>>332509503
Oh yeah those fucking miku miku dance tech demos were utter shit
My favorites are Play Club and Custom Maid 3D2
>>332505313source?
>everybody thinks the VR gimmick shit is going to be like holodecks from Star Trek
>it turns out, it's just strapping a stupid overpriced $800 set of goggles to your head that require a $2,000 computer to even actually use
>you have only a very small handful of on-rails 'titillation' demos that are featuring mundane things like riding a rollercoaster and you're supposed to be all like AW OOOOOO at it
>also, it makes your eyes hurt (anybody who didn't see that coming must have eyesight as bad as what people who overuse those goggles will end up with)
VR is always going to be a gimmick, or at least until we have proper immersive VR instead of you strapping shit to your head. Shit you can't even fap to VR porn--that should've been LAUNCH TITLES
>>332509581
I agree, really these fucks just assume that hype turns into profit at an 1:1 rate
Oculus started with wanting a standardized VR headset for PC and ended up as a facebook helmet, became a publisher of all things, produced mobile toys and a store, and have gotten literally not one fucking game worth a shit while doing all this.
Now they go out with a "hurr 30 games" most of which are mobile level tech demos, converted gearVR jokes and a few games to which VR only adds the 3D effect, or ones that have already flopped.
>>332507324
Why are you lying, anon?
>>332509503
>monitor-like clarity
Do the fucking maths, kids. You can resolve individual pixels on a 1080p screen when it's taking up around a tenth of your total vision.
Extrapolate that out, and you'll realise that the rift and others like it will require a 10800p screen. About as crazy as we can get currently is 8k, which is a 4320p screen, and you won't see those on phones any time soon.
>>332503925
>I browse Reddit
>>332509680
Because a lot of companies will waste time with this gimmicky retardation instead of making actual videogames. That phone retardation already hurt a ton of IPs, so fuck phones, fuck VR and fuck any of those fucking pointless gimmicks.
>>332509780
rasterized rendering was a mistake
>>332509559
I'm assuming at this point they went the shitty scam artist tier Chinese manufacturing facility who proceeded to run off with their money and sent them units that pretty much exploded somehow on the way over.
That's acasually a normal thing, you don't cheap out on Chinese manufacturing or you get fucked. The companies know that so long as they set the price super low that thear business partners won't bother with the fees involved with a lengthy court case.
>>332508945
what part of cock pit do you not understand? It is a pit to insert your cock in
>>332509843
Don't you fuckin' talk about my waifu like that mate I'll fuck you up right proper
>>332509780
I've heard the math a few times - and I know its a tough call like starting at 8k, but regardless I make the minimum entrypoint where seeing the physical pixels is impossible even with no motion going on on the screens.
DK2 was dogshit in that, these are better but stil not there, 4k will probably do that atleast - after that I can make do, even if not ideal.
>>332509747
We get it, you are so poor your mom wont buy it for you. They will get cheaper in a couple of years, dont worry.
>>332508730
Anyone got the "eating a bucket of shit" comic?
>>332509680
>Why do you faggots want everything to fail?
There are no games to justify it's purchase. It will get shit on until this changes.
>>332509868
hontoni gomme
>>332509959
>There are no games to justify it's purchase.
For you.
>>332509871
I was being nice with the 10800p number. The reality is probably far higher, 8k won't really improve it by much.
>>332508169
the op literally mentioned a specific subreddit, kill you're selve
>>332509780
>>332509871
you need about 8k per eye to begin to eliminate screen door. but even with performance gains resulting from foveated rendering we're not going to get there any time soon.
also, none of the phone manufacturers will bother with 8k panels at those sizes potentially leaving VR stranded or driving costs even higher.
>>332509968
this is just fuckin retarded, the least sad part is when the model glitched because that was fun otherwise it would have ben sad to watcn..
>>332510094
That's just a limitation of the 3-point IK.
>>332510076
>that irremediable feeling of saying "fuck this let me just grab a controller or a mouse and a KB"
Less than a week until my Vive's here, shit's gonna be cash
>>332510136
def worth the weight.
It's a shame these things are so retarded.
You know what would have been neat, and not a complete waste of time tech demo? Some kind of decent model manipulation software, or implementation in SFM. I want to make my own porn, but I don't want to spend 50 hours trying to rotate a fucking leg joint.
>>332510209
What's said is I'm pretty certain that the Vive will ship before the Oculus units do.
>>332506967
>Make few units
>sell them before reviews in a nanosecond
>people parrot that even if the reviews are bad they outsold in hours!
You people are gullible as fuck.
>>332510209
I have to wait until May god damn it. Its gonna be a very long April.
>>332507201
It's the same.
>>332510325
the reviews are good though
>>332507601
>Motion sickness seems to force developers into making games that way
Bullshit rules made by the indie darlings based on nothing.
>>332510209
So fucking jelly. Have fun, my man.
>>332510270
That's actually a great idea.
I think it will have some amazing applications, other than games.
>>332506967
you know if you only make a few units odds are they are going to sell out. That doesn't mean sells are that high.
>hundreds of thousands
I highly doubt they have sold that many.
>>332508557
They wanted to be first to market. They got it but with an absolute botchjob of a launch
>>332506959
getting a 3d image that moves around with your head and body like you are there?
I mean... come on anon. Clearly a screen can't do that.
>>332509680
I only want bad things to fail.
Although lots of things I don't think are bad are obviously going to fail anyway.
Why do you need to live in a fluffy candy land of delusion, where tons of people spend a lot of money on something for no reason whatsoever and ultimately get fucked in the ass by facebook?
>>332507203
well that cnet faggot prefers vive's optics:
> I prefer the lenses of the Vive
> IIRC they don't have the same halo / lens-flare / glow effect around bright objects that I see in the Rift.
Any word on custom lenses for people with shit vision?
As an avid flight simulator player I hope with every atom of my being that VR headsets become widespread.
Being able to look around your cockpit without worry about the size of your monitor(s) and easily keeping an eye on your surroundings is absolutely a must.
In that regard, all naysayers should be tracked down and tortured until their minds are broken and they swear loyalty to VR for the rest of their lives. Nothing and no-one should stop the success of VR.
>>332510594
Controlling my view with a mouse sounds far more easy.
SO no, fuck your gimmick, and also i reall dislike the people who supports the concept in the first place so much, VR was a bad 80s meme that should have stayed there.
>>332510702
Yeah it's a tradeoff, vive has slightly larger fov and less flare, but in return the image is more blurry
>>332510718
I agree
VR are the future and the sooner everyone accepts this the better.
>>332510726
controlling your view with a mouse sounds easier to you than moving your fucking head.
just... god you're a fucking idiot. Just think about that for a little bit.
>>332510772
>VR are the future
must be, because since the 80s no one has been able to do anything worthy with it yet.
>>332507014
How can lips be real if waifu isn't real?
The mad hype over roomscale VR is probably what will kill VR gaming. It's great, but it means that you have to cripple BASIC mechanics of games to compensate.
You either have to have games confined to small rooms, or have a locomotion technique that is utterly retarded. Like teleporting.
It's like nobody played HLVR when that came out. That was perfect.
>>332510869
Not only is far more easier but confortable and quick.
Source: i play quake competitively.
>>332510882
she exists as 0s and 1s in my ram
my ram is real
checkmate
>>332510869
You're a fucking moron lmao
>>332510869
Because the 80s they didn't have the required tech. Nor in the 90s. Nor in the 2000s. We BARELY have it today.
It's not "figure out what to do with it" because we all know what can be done. It's getting to that point where it's possible. And I don't think 2016 is that time either.
>>332510867
He is not entirely wrong - mouse control is far higher performance than your head.
These people just don't even understand the concept of immersion, or why others want it.
>>332510867
He is right tho,
Try moving your view over 360° quickly like you would in a first person shooter with your actual head, see what happens.
>>332511072
I can immerse myself perffectly with a TV screen or a monitor, thanks but been doing that since late 90s
>>332511104
I died
>>332511186
That sentence really just tells me how right I was in saying you dont even understand its concept.
>>332511186
you are not qualified to talk about this, holy fuck
>>332510896
>It's like nobody played HLVR when that came out. That was perfect.
nearly perfect - just had that tiny issue of making almost everyone nauseous.
>thread is full of kids who can't afford it
lol
>>332511186
Engrossed is not the same as Immersed
>>332511072
>>332511104
now try turning your head using a mouse while typing. Or turning your head with a mouse while driving, flying, or literally any other task.
try turning your view while shooting something else that you aren't looking directly at.
rotate 360 quicky? I'm assuming in youre in a fucking computer chair right? You can spin for god damn as much as you want as quickly as you want. Your mouse you're going to have to pick it up and move it back over.
>>332511298
lmao
>HURRR NO GAMES FOR RIFT EBIN MEME COOL STORY BRO
Monday 28.3.
Adr1ft (Win)*
Lucky's Tale (Win)*
Dreadhall (Win)*
Adventure Time: Mafic Man's head Games (Win)*
Rooms: The Unsolvable Puzzle - VR Edition (Win)*
AirMech: Command (Win)*
EVE: Valkyrie (Win)*
EVE: Gunjack (Win)*
Esper 2 (Win)*
Smashing the Battle (Win)*
Audio Arena (Win)*
Fly to KUMA (Win)*
Vektron Revenge (Win)*
Chronos (Win)*
Herobound Spirit Champion (Win)*
VR Tennis Online (Win)*
Darknet (Win)*
Pinball FX2 VR (Win)*
Dead Secret (Win)*
Omega Agent (Win)*
Shake Your Money Simulator 2016 (Win)
Bazaar (Win)
1993 Space Machine (Win, Mac)
Amigdala (Win)
Tuesday 29.3.
NightCry (Win)
Resident Evil 6 (PS4, XOne)
Killer Instinct - Season 3 (XOne, Win)
The Walking Dead: Michonne - Episode 2: Give No Shelter (PS4, XOne, PS3, X360, Win, Mac, Android, iOS)
Minecraft: Story Mode - Episode 5: Order Up (PS4, XOne, PS3, X360, Win, Mac, Android, iOS)
Tiltagon (Win, Mac, Linux)
MLB The Show 16 (PS4, PS3)
No Time to Explain (PS4)
Edgar (Win)
Hypersensitive Bob (Win, Mac, Linux)
Angry Video Game Nerd II: Assimilation (Win, Mac, Linux)
Forced Showdown (Win)
Terrarium Land (Win, Linux)
Trial by Viking (Win, Mac, Linux)
Tasty Planet: Back for Seconds (Win, Mac)
XenoShyft (Win, Mac)
DLC: Rise of the Tomb Raider - Cold Darkness Awakened (XOne, X360, Win)
Wednesday 30.3.
StarCraft II - Nova Covert Ops: Mission Pack 1 (Win, Mac)
Ninja Outbreak (Win, Mac)
[the Sequence] (Win)
Magical Eyes - Red is for Anguish (Win)
Insane (Win)
Thursday 31.3.
Hyper Light Drifter (Win, Mac)
Rynn's Adventure: Trouble in the Enchanted Forest (Win, Mac)
28 Waves Later (Win)
Rewind (Win)
Scapeland (Win, Mac)
Atriage (Win, Mac)
Super Robot Jump Jump (Win)
Silver Creek Falls - Chapter 3 (Win)
Friday 1.4.
Nights of Azure (PS4)
Trillion: God of Destruction (Vita)
Tokyo Babel (Win)
The Minims (Win, Mac)
Adam's Venture: Origins (Win)
Stikbold! A Dodgeball Adventure (Win)
Spheria (Win)
>>332511186
this is what 99% of /v/ believes about this subject
>>332505687
Use Tinder. Easier to mask the retardedness.
>>332511390
>all shit
>>332511104
now fire at something while checking if somebody is flanking you / coming from behind with a mouse
>>332509220
>>>Black Smear is fixed, lens flare is new and a side effect of new lenses, which is hilarious
>
>Oh it is?
No, it isn't. I just saw a webm with smearing on cv1 in oculus cinema
>>332503925
>closed platform by default
Deal breaker, I'm out and uninterested.
>>332506959
Proper screen for simpits.
>>332511363
You arent really making very good points
Yes, decoupled looking and aiming is one thing - but its not really "useful", its immersive and only plays with motion controls - which are again immersive, but low performance.
A single buttonpress to reload as opposed to an entire set of motions.
I would also not recommend spinning around in your computer chair - first you'd still be fucktons slower than a mouse, second it'll make you sick, third the cables will be choking you.
VR is simply a completely different field compared to regular vidya or FPS games.
The only overlap happens in simulators with cockpits - and even there, screens and a trackir will be more 'effective', while VR will be the more immersive choice.
>>332511653
Nigger of course nobody is going to play fucking quake or cs in VR, we're talking about tactical games, be it arma or project reality
>>332511463
As far as I was aware, black smear doesn't show in recorded footage, unless it was a camera looking through the rift lenses.
>>332503925
>I've been to /r/Oculus for some news and discussion.
Good. Now fucking stay there.
>>332511432
>>332511653
you can't think of a single reason why looking around you why you are doing something else would be useful and advantageous in video games.
You're not even fucking trying anon.
not one?
>>332503925
>VR=OR
>>332511653
why even have a reload button at all, just have it automatically press R
why even aim with a mouse at all, using an aimbot is much more efficient
You wanna know the answer?
Because video games are played for fun, not for fucking efficiency you god damn sperg
>>332511698
sorry, remembered wrong, it was a halo effect
>>332511781
The more efficient the controls are, the more fun you have.
>>332510209
>Less than a week until my Vive's here, shit's gonna be cash
how can you tell? I've been looking at my credit card statement few times a day now and it hasnt been charged yet
>>332511931
So I assume you're using recoil scripts for CS, yes?
Because why would you want to account for recoil manually, that's not efficient, that's not fun
fucking end yourself jesus
are you one of those people buying those minimalist "deconstructions" that indies have been doing lately, where you literally press two buttons for the game to play itself?
>>332509267
>Valve could do better
>doubting the surprise DotA 2 VR patch
Being sucked into Enigma's black hole in first person will be an experience to cherish.
>>332512046
>i have no reasonable counter argument so ill just use over exaggeration!
THE FUTURE OF GAMING
>>332510709
Rift was supposed to have an extra fitting for people with glasses but they didnt bother shipping it.
Now I hear people with glasses are struggling to use the thing
I told you all.
Just they they told me Batman v Superman was terrible.
DELETE THIS!
WE CAN'T LET SONY WIN!
>>332512316
>it was supposed to compete with quake
>prey 2 never
Tommy had a hard life
>>332512046
Simplification =/= Efficiency.
If anything, the VR games will have to keep gameplay more simple than something you would play with Mouse + KB, gamepad.
>>332512458
No one has even mentioned your shit, you fucking drone.
>>332511781
No, you fucking autistic piece of shit.
There are video games for immersive fun, and there are competitive video games where the fun comes from the competition.
Guess which one makes use out of VR, and which one would take it as an absolute detriment?
Now open your fucking narrow mind.
>>332512458
Perfect, all it needs now is the OR logo slapped on.
not like they're gonna admit its shit, I mean they spent a lot of money on a garbage product, that would mean they're idiots, who admits to that?
