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Why are Hamon users more fun to play as than Stand users?
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Why are Hamon users more fun to play as than Stand users?
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Because there's less of them so you value them more.
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>>332417721
That's likely it. Haven't gotten used to Will or Caesar yet, but Old Joseph>Young Joseph. Hermit Purple is more like an extension of Hamon than a Stand
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Hamon has an actual backstory on how the powers come
stands are fucking retarded
why is he fast?
"IS A STAND DONT QUESTION IT I JUST WORKS LIKE THAT"
stands ruined jojo
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>>332417901
Stands saved jojo from being generic shounen
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>>332417901
Stands are cool but they are really poorly explained.
>>332418815
Eh it still has the boring 'bad guy of the week' format for way too long in a large number of the parts. Part 4 is weak until they are hunting Kira, part 5 is good as long as it's not focused on Giorno, part 6 is just average.
1 2 and 3 are all good, biggest problem of 3 is that it follows the 'bad guy of the week' format way too closely
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>>332418989
My issue with part 5 is they didn't focus on Giorno. He felt so backseat the entire part.
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>>332418989
>Part 4 is weak until they are hunting Kira

I disagree. Let's Eat Out an Italian and the rat hunt are top tier chapters
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because lisa lisa is awesome and araki wanted to make her almost a main character but it never quite happened

and the obvious, what nobody wants to admit is the idea of hamon is enough to give one douchechills

HAMON A BEEATO
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>>332419158
Part 4 has some of my favourite side shit, I feel like part 7 and 8 have really shown how much he has improved over all and it's great. He's at his best when the character is going through lots of random shit along with the main story.
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>>332418989
>thinking Tonio, rat-hunting, Rohan, and Yukako are weak arcs
I'm glad that Akira wasn't the main antagonist, though.
I want Yukako to jerk me off with her hair and tickle my balls with her pubes in coitus
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>>332419158
The chef part was quite good, and rat hunt was also good, but those are the exceptions. Most of the bad guys before Kira aren't that good.
>>332419135
Giorno is just fucking boring, that's why
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>>332419173
>douchechills
>HAMON A BEEATO
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>>332419496
It is overall weak, despite there being some good parts.
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7>8>4>6>5>1>3>2
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>>332419879
>2 is the worst part
say that to my face, faggot
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>>332419879
>2 that low
Joseph and Stroheim save it from being hot garbage but come on, at least put it above 3, which has so much bloat with very few good moments in proportion.
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>>332419976
did you watch the anime or read the mango first?
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>>332419879
4>2>7>5>1>3>6
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>>332420023
This. Stroheim and Joseph are fucking awesome and are there for the best parts of 2.
>>332420053
Manga first, as anyone should.
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7>4>6>2>3>5>1
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>>332420053
mango so you can appreciate the anime more
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>>332418989
>Part 4 is weak until they are hunting Kira

NO DIGNITY
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>>332419668
yup

now enjoy the arbitrary questions and power rankings and "What ifs" that comprise every jojo thread and why I avoid the general
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>>332417890
No it's because majority Stands users all begin to feel the same due to CC keeping the movesets to things they only did in the manga as oppose to making a moveset based off the possiblities of what a stands power could, pretty much should have taken abit more creative liberty is what im sayin.That's why every stand user will tend to have that same punch ghost feels and the ones that aren't punch ghost tend to have more lacking movesets. ASB2 Fucking when

>>332417901
>Only Hamon has a backstory too it

Can some Anon tell this guy to read the manga i lost my pics to do so myself
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>>332420720
>ASB2 Fucking when

Eyes of Heaven
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>>332417901
>>332420720
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>>332420861
Eyes of heaven isnt even the same kind of game
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>>332421702
Too bad. You're getting 5 Dios and you're going to like it
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>>332417553

No one is fun to play in that stiff piece of shit game.
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>>332417553
Because the bullshit Hamon users pulled out was way more interesting than the bullshit stand users can pull out.

Which is why part 3 will always be slightly better than the rest of the series for me.
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>>332422593
You mean part 2?
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>>332421867

Game is really fun once you get use to it.

Lisa lisa has really good mix ups and combos.
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>>332422701
Right. My bad.

part 2.
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>>332422935
Part 2 was rather good due to the enjoyable characters, and the whole ruse cruise stuff, with the characters not being super powerful.

Part 7 is my favorite now, but a lot of the parts have good stuff.
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4>2>7>1>3>6>5
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8>4>7>2>1>5>6>3
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3 DAYS
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>>332423624
Until what?
First episode of part 4?
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>>332422593
>Part 2
>Even close to touching 4, 7, or 8 (as it is now)
The only things remotely interesting that utilize the Ripple's properties in Part 2 were the mufflers that Lisa Lisa and Straits wore and Caesar's bubbles, the latter of which felt like a prototype Stand power with how flimsy the reasoning is for how he can even use them like that.
All of Joseph's tricks and weapons, while using Hamon, were more about using an object as deadly weaponry, but even then it was mostly LOL ROPES. And even then, every fight goes exactly the same
>WHAT THE HOW THE HELL DID HE DO THAT?
>WAIT I GET IT NOW AND HERE'S A DETAILED EXPLANATION
The Spin was a much more interesting fighting style, both mechanically and visually, than the Ripple, which was largely just magnets and GOTTA PUNCH HARDER YOUR MUSCLES STILL HAVE OXYGEN IN THEM. Stands, while inconsistent, have a wider variety of uses but have exclusive powers from user to user. Out of every named Ripple specialist, very few did anything interesting or unique with it at all, to the point where the most punchghosty of Stands are more interesting. Part 5, especially, where Sticky Fingers apes Zoom Punch as a logical application of its ability.
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>>332424371
Yes.
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Spin a best
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>>332426489
Spin was amazing but much like Ripple, it was just there to bring life to Stands.

Stands give us a much wider variety of powers and abilities for Araki to mess around with.
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>>332417901
Stands>>Spin>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hamon
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>>332419135
I think Giorno is fine but the setting of Part 5 doesn't allow us to see the best of him. He's much more likeable in Purple Haze Feedback, but it doesn't feel like his character has been changed.
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>>332419496
http://pastebin.com/nJ3Rxjn9
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>>332417553
Holy shit, I thought Lisa Lisa was Itagaki from the thumbnail
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>>332419879
I wouldn't rate JJL until it's done, although it is fantastic so far, otherwise you have good taste. I would rank them as:
7>4>5>6>2>3>1
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>>332428065
>linking me the fapfic I wrote
>400+ unique views
Sequel soon.
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Never will I understand why retards enjoy the slice of life garbage that is Part 4.
And from what I heard Part 8 is more of the same so it's probably same kind of trash.
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>>332417901
Part 1: Vampires are the biggest threat to the world!
Part 2: Pillar Men that FEED on Vampires are the biggest threat to the world!

At this point Araki had to either make something greater than Pillar Men which would have been lame, instead he came up with Stands which is fun because Stands having amusing counters.

He probably just saw X-Men and thought that was a killer concept.
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>>332428417
DiU has arguably the best cast and it's one if the only parts to mix things up with regards to what kind if events happen with Stands. The fights are nice, but having arcs like the Italian restaurant help to mix things up so that it's not just monster of the week shit.

JJL is more of a mystery than SoL anyway.
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>>332428287
hell yeah
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>>332424596
Yeah, all of Joseph's tricks were just about getting Hamon into the opponent. When he wasn't doing the tv or camera thing that's all he used Hermit Purple for pretty much.
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>>332428417
>Part 8
>slice of life
It's an AU of DiU, but it is not at all close to Part 4 in tone, plot, or structure. It's more like Part 5, if anything, since everyone is either allied with the Higashikata household (and even then, they're at first enemies of Josuke) or the antagonistic group. Literally everyone involved has some relation to the plot, and it does have a plot to the point where every battle has some significance and consequence beyond "WE SURVIVED AND WE'RE A LITTLE CLOSER TO DIO/THE BOSS!" Fuck off and read the manga.
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Why the hell does everyone like 2 so much?

It's only value is in it's weird cast and besides that it was boring "you thought you were gonna win but I did this actually without you seeing" fights.

And Joseph was better in part 3 anyways.
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>>332428818
>best cast
Koichi, Rohan, fat fuck, ayylmao and Okuyasu are all terrible and unlikeable though.
Koichi is a disgusting midget.
Okuyasu is a complete moron.
Rohan is just a huge dickhead with no likeable properties, the same goes for the greedy fat fuck.
Ayylmao is bland and forgettable.
Josuke is basically Jotaro not-shit edition and the only good thing about Part 4 other than Kira.
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>>332429126
lisa lisa a sex
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>>332429125
I did read the manga you projecting nigger.
I'm merely said I didn't read 8 nor do I intend to anytime soon since I don't read ongoing things.
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>>332429260
jolyne is a better sex though
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>>332429126
Wacky cast
Fun villains
Hamon gets more showtime
A nazi protagonist
Best milf
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>>332429126
Because of Joseph, it doesn't have much else going for it. Even the other good supporting characters, like Stroheim, don't get enough time to really shine.
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>>332429126
>Why the hell does everyone like 2 so much?

Because after Johnathan Joseph is a breath of fresh air.
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Is it weird that part 6 is one of my top parts?

I loved The cast and it wasn't too horribly paced, and the bullshit reaches absurd levels to the point that it's comical

And Pucci. Goddamn Pucci
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>>332429159
Rohan is great because he's a huge dickhead. Mikitaka himself is pretty good, but other characters interactions wih him are great. Okuyasu is a charming and likeable character and he has a great Stand. I don't have strong feelings for Koichi one way or the other. Shigechi is an asshole, but both arcs involving him are great, and while he's not the best part of either if them he was a necessity for them both.
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>>332429991
You are literally saying all the awful things are "great".
Seriously sounds to me like you're a masochist subhuman trash that loves to eat shit.
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>>332429451
The only wacky guys are Joseph and Stroheim, and who the hell else is there? Smokey?
Villians were lame dude, what the fuck made "vampies were bad but these guys made vampires!!!!" villains seem fun?
I don't see how the Hamon bit mattered, it's not like it got shunted in the part before it and it got swept under the rug later because it had like, no potential.
Since when was Joseph a nazi?
Josuke's mom is the best milf dummy.

>>332429742
Yeah but even after reading all the other parts people will still list it as their favorite. It constantly gets raved about and it's kinda perplexing. I'm curious why everyone thinks it deserves such high placement over other parts.
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>>332417901
stands gave JJBA the creative freedom to blossom, and made sure the series didn't get bogged down with powerlevels (because what would be the next vampire-esque enemy after the pillar men? it would have been incredibly forced)

and they did what superhero media should have done a long time ago: it's not the power you have, it's how you use it
one guys power was that he was stuck in a telephone tower that would fix any damage to himself, and he managed to turn that into a combat ability; that's some fucking creativity right there
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>>332430115
>You are literally saying all the awful things are "great".

Yes that's what someone is saying when they say Jojo is good.
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>>332429159

>character is dumb
>this is bad

>character is dick
>this is bad

yeah fuck dude let's have a team of smart gentlemen so we can have the blandest character interactions ever
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>>332429850
Part 6 is fantastic and that whole last battle was so crazy it was amazing
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>>332430226
Because Part 2 came before everything but boring Part 1.
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>>332430310
Part 2 and Part 3 had characters who had bare minimum of intelligence and weren't walking assholes.
Same with 5 and 6.
Eat shit anon.
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they have a dedicated button for building meter

most fun character is Akira
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>>332430363
Yeah but now all the other parts are out.

This isn't 1988 dude.
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>>332430226
Because animefags love it causing mangafags to remember it as better than it was
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>>332430442

yes but you literally said okuyasu is bad because he's a moron. that's his fucking point. that's why the hand is balanced.

as for rohan, he's a pretentious artist and is araki poking fun at himself. that's his point as well.

your arguments as to why theyre bad are just subjective trash.
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>>332429159
epic
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>>332417553
In actual gameplay, I only played ASB but Hamon users definitely feel more fun to play since they can actually have some combos while I can't seem to combo with stand users unless they're main characters.

Maybe it's because I haven't played the game all too seriously but you can't do all that amazing combos with most of the cast unless you utilize the taunt set up
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>>332430610
Okuyasu IS bad because he's a moron. None of the characters in 2/3/5/6 even come close to being as dumb as he is.
He's Polnareff except thousand times shittier and unlikeable.

>as for rohan, he's a pretentious artist and is araki poking fun at himself. that's his point as well.
Being self aware of being shit doesn't somehow make it not shit anon, ergo keep on eating that shit.
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>>332429850
Part 6 is pretty good, but it's far from perfect.

Pucci is fantastic, he completely carried Part 6 for me and every time he showed up I was entertained, which is even more impressive for the fact that he has a lot of presence. The problem for me was the first half as well as the main crew. The fights and Stands were some of the worst in the series, making the first half a pain to go through. The cast was boring outside of Weather Report and he only got interesting towards the end. Jolyne was okay, but I didn't care about Annasui, Hermes, FF or Emporio at all. They had their moments but they were pretty underwhelming overall. I also hated Whitesnake and how it would oull so many abilities out of it ass.
The second half and all the crazy shit that happens in it makes pushing through the first half woth it though.
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>>332430642
Part 4 better have duwang subs

Speaking of which, when's the anime air?
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>>332429850
No, Pucci was fucking great as a villain with how he was introduced so early.
>>332430814
Early fights were pretty weak but it really picked up the pace. If anything, I didn't find myself caring for Anasui since he never got himself an actual fight.

But I completely agree that Pucci made Part 6. His backstory chapter, his entire presence in the early portions of the part, and how the plot literally moved with him.
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>>332419879
>>332419976
>>332420023
>>332420094
>>332420203
>>332428238

7>4>2>6>3>5>1

The last 1/4 of 7 is just 12/10, if not for it 7 would be tied with 2.

5 I feel would really, really benefit from an anime adaption.
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>>332430848
This friday.
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>>332430848
This Friday

I can't get good Jojo discussion on /a/ anymore with that general shit.
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>>332430115
No I didn't. It seems to me like you can't enjoy a character unless it's someone you would want to spend time with in real life. Rohan being an asshole is entertaining, sure I wouldn't want to spend time with an asshole in real life but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy this fictional character.
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>>332419879
7>4>3>2>8>5>1>6
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>mfw Eyes of Heaven OST
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>>332431013
I mostly agree with that but I'd place 6 higher, 2 a bit lower, and 5 over 3.

There's not too many amazing fights in 3 until they actually get to Egypt while Part 5 had some of my favorite fucking fights with Grateful Dead and White Album.

but props to Hanged Man though, that's probably one of my favorite lesser villain stands.
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>>332417553
why remove hamon and replace with stand. why not put them both
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>>332431184
I haven't had the chance to listen to it. Is it better than ASB's?
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>>332430814
>>332431001
I would've liked Annasui if Diver Down didn't become just "Oh, it can go through walls"

At first I thought it was about storing momentum in objects, and that woulda been rad, especially used with Stone Free and Kiss, but it didn't turn our that way sadly
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>>332430541
No one cares, Part 2 came before them. So it's better. My nostalgia tells me so.
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>>332431298
They had both in part 3
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>>332431438
I think so.

Ceaser's theme is fucking sex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d5mpIyJn14
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>>332431298
Pure hamon users can't see stands. If you have a stand you don't want to spend years to learn hamon even if you could.
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>>332431443
I agree, his first application of DD's powers was pretty fucking cool but then it was only phasing through shit only. He probably could have saved Weather too
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>>332431592
Someone on the development team must really like Caesar. His theme in ASB was great too.
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>>332417901
>Hamon has an actual backstory
Yeah. Araki ripped off Buronson.
Some fucking backstory.
"hurrdurr hokuto no ken is doing good so let's rip off one of the main plot elements"
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anyone saved a pic of johnny with his birth and death
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>>332431652
thats fucking stupid and lazy. thats like saying i know how to read so i don't need math.

hamon can help you look young and give you superhuman powers. stands are invisible monsters who do all the work for you.
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>>332431652
your telling me that you would like to get your power from space rock then use the humans natural power
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Haven't started reading 8 yet.
7>4>2>6>3>1
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>>332431925
Hamon is just stupid "inner chakra" ki shit that every anime and their mother has done. The only reason it was interesting was because it had a weakness as opposed to DBZ shit where the harder you try = the harder you win, but other than that it's actual use was bland as hell.
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>>332432321
you forgot 5 anon
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>>332432407
>The only reason it was interesting was because it had a weakness

Also because PB was written way before most other shonen series's was so it wasn't nearly as overdone then.
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>>332431298
Hamon's onnly really effective against vampires, so it would have been pretty much useless after SDC. Also, Hamon was, for the most part, just generic Ki energy, I imagine Araki wanted to go all out with Stands seeing as it was a far more original idea.
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>>332432413

nah, he didnt
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>>332432552
Yeah, mind controlling people with Hamon like Ceaser did would be really useless.
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>>332431849
>PIO
kek
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Hamon>Fullbring>Stands>Spin
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>>332431438
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5y5a4Qcto
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>>332432509
Well it's overdone now, that's for friggin sure, and it was overdone enough by the time part 3 was out that Araki realized it had to go. With Hamon you either change the rules of it every time you need a clever situation, or let it stagnate and become boring. Either way it loses it's impact and becomes boring. Stands change on an individual basis, so Araki can do whatever the hell he wants without it becoming clear jobbing, like changing stands over the course of parts 3 - 8 from direct combat to more supplemental utility.
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>Want to keep Joseph in part 3
>Shit, Hamon is a pretty good power and he'll still be in good shape due to it, if he has a stand on top of his genius level battle strategies and hamon, he'll overshadow the new protag!
>Give him a garbage stand and make him retarded!
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>>332432760
That was one of the bullshit things that Araki pulled out of his ass though. If you're going to argue that, then you should be arguing why Kakyoin never mind controlled anybody or why Giorno never reflected damage back at people or why anybody ever used an ability once and then never again. Even if Hamon was brought back, it would never he used for something like mind control.
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>>332433267
Jotaro is so cool though. He calls Joseph old man! Don't you think he's an old man?
What a lame-o Joseph is guys. Look he's old and dumb!
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>>332433267
Tbh he wasn't completely retarded. The magnet bitch fight, the tumor thing fight, and using hamon armor against DIO were fairly smart.

I'm still mad as fuck he didn't even try to use Hamon against d'arby to keep the water in the glass.
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>>332433717
I always rationalized it with my friends that electric sparks of energy and causing ripples would still be appear like cheating for someone as observant as D'arby
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>>332430791
Okuyasu is a lovable oaf if there ever was one. He's like Ed from Ed, Edd n Eddy with a stand and an older brother instead of a younger sister. His stupidity is what makes him enjoyable. Pic related is one of my favorite lines in the entire series.
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>>332433267
Keeping this vidya, I like Old Joseph's moveset in ASB. Sure his stand barely qualifies as one, but his Hamon breathing plus Hermit Purple's reach makes him a fun character
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>>332433912
I wish Keicho survived.
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>>332433801

I thought that shit wasn't visible for the most part, it was just an effect to show hamon was being used.
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>ywn read/watch a part 3 where Avdol actually died to save Polnareff
>ywn see Hol Horse join the Crusaders
>ywn see Hol Horse sacrifice himself to save Polnareff and Iggy
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THIRTY
SIX
KARS
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>>332434027
I thought so too but it definitely sends out some ripples and you could say Joseph could put the coin in the glass and fool D'arby by having the water naturally have ripples running through them. But even then so, I'm still for Joseph losing that one.
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>>332434138
At least we got EoH where valentine goes full justice mode and fights against super dio
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>>332419130
No dignity.
>>332428238
I like either Josuke.
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>>332417553
Why do people hate Gio so much? He had a goal and stuck with it, I don't see the problem with that.
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>>332429384
No, she's got shittier hair than Josuke. Jolyne has a nice ass, but Lisa Lisa still beats her in that regard.
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>>332434471
They're both in my top 3 JoJo's.
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>>332431438
Like ASB it has its shit-tier forgettable songs but god-tier memorable ones. Esidisi and Jotaro got the shaft (which is a shame because I liked Jotaro's ASB theme) but my favorites are probably Caesar, Okuyasu, and Mariah's theme.

Actually shit, there's a good theme for most if not all the female fighters. Jolyne's is decent, but Hermes, Lisa Lisa, Trish, Yukako, and Mariah's themes are fucking godly.
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>>332434827
How's Valentine's theme? It was fairly godlike in ASB
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>>332434641
People tend to find him boring, which is understandable, although I do like him. He's very reserved and he only really speaks up when he's giving these big speeches, and I think those speeches usually come off as underwhelming due to the shit translations. He also doesn't have much lighthearted or fun moments passed the beginning because he's trying to impress the gang.
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>>332430226
The ruse cruise is fun and I believe he meant Stroheim. Lisa Lisa > Holly, not even close.
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>>332430791
>Okuyasu
>shit
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>>332434169
Oh hey, that's my filename. Glad you like it.
>>332434938
It's...eh. I agree, Valentine's ASB theme was the best in the soundtrack, but if you want a good SBR theme, listen to Johnny's EoH theme. It sounds like a fucking rock party.
>>332434719
Who's the third one? I might go back and read Stone Ocean because my friend's really liking Jolyne.
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Josefumi > Josuke8
Prove me wrong
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>>332431013
I just really like the whole race aspect of 7. It kept locations fresh, kept the plot moving, and allowed a wide deal of characters to exist, without them feeling like they came out of nowhere.

That, and the characters themselves were extremely fun/interesting.
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>>332435321
Kira8 > everyone else
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>>332435494
>Josefumi is better then Josuke8
>Kira8 is better then Josuke8

But they're the same person, anon.
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>>332433267
As far as I recall, he greatly decreased his practice of it after Part 2 since there was no reason to practice it, with DIO/Pillarmen being dealt with.

Then, after Part 3 (and actually killing DIO), there was legitimately no reason to practice it. He wanted to grow old with his beloved wife (and probably cheat on her, but whatever). This makes shit unfortunate for part 4, but eh.
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>>332435494
Kir8>>>>>>>Kir4
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>he'll overshadow the new protag!
If he was as sharp as he was in part 2 he would have overshadowed the entire main cast (like he did in part 2). Plus he had some form of dementia in part 4 so it isn't unreasonable that he was losing his some of his wits by the time of part 3.
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>>332434998
>Draw a girl
>call them Narancia
>Claim they are a girl
for what fuckin purpose
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>>332435805
>This makes shit unfortunate for part 4, but eh
The end of part 4 says he gets better after taking in the invisible baby so he's not senile for long, you can even see him get better as Part 4 goes on. My head-canon is that he was just pretending since he was under fire for cheating
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>>332434020
Who was keicho again
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>>332434998
Was part 5 properly translated yet? Don't tell me I have to wait for the anime
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>>332436275
Okuyasu's brother
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>>332436227
>My head-canon is that he was just pretending since he was under fire for cheating
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>>332436135
I'm into traps and I always thought Narancia looked like a dude, at least no more girly than any other character in part 5.
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>>332436126
Let's not say things we can't take back
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>>332436227
According to Araki He actually lives to be about 90 or so by Part 6
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>its a part 8 levee~~~~~~el
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6>5>4>2>7>3>1

I thought 5 probably had the greatest main cast
6 had my favourite story over all
4 had the best villian in all of jojo
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>>332436126
>yfw next JoJo fighter labels Kira as Yoshikage Kira 4
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>>332436603
>Jojolion level
>four testicle music starts playing
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I want Lisa Lisa to give me a Hamon-infused gloved handjob.
Fapfics pls
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how did an entire crew of sailors manage to see (AND BOARD) a stand in the middle of the ocean if they didnt have the arrow
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>>332436573
Yacht SHA > any of OG Kira's explosions
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>>332437000
Because it was really powerful. They say it.
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>>332437000
Some stands can be seen by humans for plot's sake.
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>>332437000
Some physical stands are visible to nonstand users, for instance Silver Chariot Requiem.
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>>332437118

SP is somehow the most powerful stand in part 4 yet nobody can ever see it
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>>332437000
The true body of Strength was unknown, but it's power was to make an old dinghy boat look and feel like an entire freighter. So in reality, everyone was standing on a roided up dinghy boat.

Wheel of Fortune worked the same way. It was an old junker of a car.
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>>332437272

>30 or so sailors plus the musclebound oxen that are the stardust crusaders all fitting on a small dinghy

yah, ok akiri
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Did the Strength Ape want to rape that girl?
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>>332437375
It was an orangutan and yes
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>>332437000
>stands have can have the power to affect time and space itself
>implying making themselves visible to everyone is that weird to have as a property of some stands
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>>332437371
It was a stand that made said dinghy evolve into an entire freighter. That's why when Forever was defeated; the boat started to warp and melt.
It's like having a Stand that could turn a popgun into a rocket launcher.
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>>332430310
I MISS SAMFLAM!
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>>332436967
Someone get on this please
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>>332437452
Orangutans are apes
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Oingo Boingo/Hol horse spinoff series WHEN
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>>332437740
Shinjiteru ze
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>>332437785
Shinjiteru yo!
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>>332435119
Johnny, Jolyne is okay but I'm not crazy about her.
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>yfw Jouta is canon
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>>332436292
Not yet, I believe the good translations end at White Album. There's another group translating backwards, but I believe that their translations are inaccurate as well.
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>>332438043
Looks like Vitamin C
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>>332436292
There was someone doing a really good translation of it, but they stopped when the Part 4 anime was announced because "I don't wanna spoil part 5 :^)"
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Stands marks where the series sold out to make trading cards or some dumb shit. I find the digimon series very uninteresting. 1 & 2 are fresh takes on the vampire legend with cool karate. The story is fast and fun and have endings. Digimon Crusaders just keeps going
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>>332438036
Fuck

>>332438043
DARKNESS

>>332438102
You can't be serious
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>>332428818
Damo is best boy.
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>>332436135
>Draw a girl
>Call it Anasui
>Change the gender because you want another male/love interest.
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>>332438158

getting to Za Warudo takes forever, but theres some really great fights along the way

I feel like they couldve cut out at least half of the jobbers
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>>332436869
I'd rather just have one Kira character with all of his part 3 appearances and part 8 as costumes.
He has the same stand, so there's no real reason to make a new character.
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>>332434169
Is it time?
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>>332438043
COME GUARDIAN
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>>332438381
what the fuck am I reading
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>>332438381
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>>332438158
The only real problem I have with stands fights are that they're there only for the sake of the fights themselves almost all the time.
In Part 1 and 2, almost every fight drives the story forwards somehow, where the later parts it's pretty much just stand of the week. I also think I would've liked it more if isn't long ass fights constantly back to back which gets a bit tiring.
Part of why I like Part 4 so much, since the pacing is a bit more relaxed and it's often people fucking around with stands in their day to day lives.
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is hamon connected to stands somehow?
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>>332437113
I prefer this, but yacht SHA was great. Both Kira and Kir8 are fantastic, although Kir8 does have the added bonus of being the most handsome character in JoJo.
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>>332438581
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>>332438381
Where can I read these? I want in on Jorge Joestar. It's actually what I thought JJBA would be when I first heard the name.
>captcha asks for cars
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Kira best JoJo antagonist.
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>>332438648

hamon is pretty much never mentioned again after pt 2
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>>332438312
Kir8's Killer Queen is different though, we haven't seen it turn anything into a bomb, we've only seen it send out multiple Sheer Heart Attack bombs, so we have to assume that that is its ability. Furthermore, Kira could only send out one SHA.
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36 KARS ON MARS
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>>332438648
It's mentioned in SBR that both the Spin and Hamon are just steps towards obtaining a Stand.
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so if jonathan had a stand that wasn't a shitty purple hermit clone, like star platinum or the world
what would it be called? my money's on 「GET BACK」
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>>332419879
7>8>4>2>1>6>3>5

Indisputable
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>>332439480
Tusk
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best girl
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What vidya series do you think meshes well with JoJo? I'd have to say JoJo fashion in Splatoon would be great.
>>332439480
Also on the subject of that I want to see what someone's design for a Part 3 era Caesar would be. I actually found someone who drew a really good DiU Kakyoin
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>>332433267
Hit the nail on the head
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>>332438158
Someone only got up to part 3
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>>332439724
>series
just remake god hand with jonathan or joseph as the protag. boom, perfect
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>>332438581
>>332438381
i cant even
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>>332439534

I liked 1 the most cause it gave me a severe nostalgia trip of growing up in the 80's. Where everything was over the top and women stayed in the kitchen.

A time before trannies were called traps and numales existed.
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>>332438170
Read: "I'm a lazy faggot who hasn't updated in months anyway and I just came up with an excuse"
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>>332417553

Because JoJo died after part 2.

After that, Araki just starts pullin shit out of his butt and starts creating inconsistencies everywhere.
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>>332440308

but the second dio coffin bullshit happened in part 2,
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>>332440107
Have the 4kids version for a good laugh.
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>>332438978
I really want Kir8 in a game just because I like his look and feel like he'd have a younger, colder voice. But yeah stands are confusing right now. Didn't someone say that Josuke's stand's use of bubbles was like Kira's, except Kira's were explosive? So why does (whatever his name is pre-Josuke) have literally Soft & Wet? It seemed like KQ was essentially KQ with Stray Cat built in, and Cowshithair had something similar to Crazy Diamond, and combined you got air bubbles combining properties of things or stealing them temporary before repairing them. Latest chapter makes it seem like Josuke literally ended up with the same stand.
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how the fuck does over heaven dio lose his stand should be fucking unstoppable
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>>332440774
If you payed attention to kir8 after he ate the fruit you understand why Josuke had pretty much the same stand.

Killer Queen begins breaking apart
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>>332440942
He pissed Jotaro off
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>>332439679
This guy gets it
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>>332440774
The reason both Josuke and Josefumi have S&W is this >>332441252 but if you remember in the fight with the Aphex Twins, Josuke stuck a bubble under one of the twins' skin and detonated it, so he definitely shares some of KQ's abilities.
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I dropped the show near the start of part 3.

I really loved parts 1 and 2, but part 3 was pretty bad imo.

I have never read the manga, nor do I want to.
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>>332441252
Oh, I suppose that makes sense. I took that whole scene to all to mean Kir8 was dead, and Josuke was stubbornly trying to convince himself he could still save him.
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>>332442945
Keep watching, eventually you'll find a stand you really like
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>>332417553
because in ASB you need meter to do anything interesting and Hamon users are the only characters that get it for free, seriously this game is so fucking stingy with meter, that you are forced to do boring short combos if you ever want to even see a GHA, why couldn't we get meter for doing normals like in Heritage for the future? on that same subject time stop or so not worth your meter in this game
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have you guys played the 7th stand user ? that fan made rpg that lets you be part of the stardust crusaders cast
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>>332443390
A lot of people seem to believe that at first.

Kira dying now wouldn't make much sense though since the photo with him, Karera and Josefumi probably hasn't happened at that point and there's currently no way for Kira to have a potted Rokakaka tree in his kitchen.
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>>332419879
7>1>5>2>3>4>6
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>>332418989
>Part 4 is weak until they are hunting Kira
>part 5 is good as long as it's not focused on Giorno
>part 6 is just average
>1 2 and 3 are all good
This image doesn't have anything in it, but I just want you to pretend that it's every derisive image I could possibly post.
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>>332444840
Nice lewds of older Shizuka.
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>>332444709
Nigga you serious?

3>1>2>6>5>4>7
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>>332445275
>Part 3
>better that part 7
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>>332445491
>no comic sans
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>>332445596
>Hating part 3

I'll never understand this meme.
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>>332445491
>Scuba diver Za Warudo
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>>332445732
Part 3 is in no way bad. People hate it because of the memes around it and how it's pretty much the face of JoJo at this point (Jotaro always being a main character in the crossover games like EOH and appearing on every merch ever) but it was still a good story with decent characters.
Part 7 is just better though.
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>>332419879
7>6>8 so far>2>3>5>1
I'm saving 4 for the anime
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>>332445932
I'M old?
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ABAJ
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>>332446017
more like TOLD haha
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>>332445932
Well I mean half that shit's probably clip art. I thought it was the whole "boxart remade with comic sans and clip art thing"
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>>332445732
I don't hate part 3. Most of the characters are cool and the villain is Dio which is pretty cool.
i just dont like jotaro. mother fucker is just a boring character until part 4 and six.
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>>332446154
its not that tho

its based off of this
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>>332445732
Jotaro sucks, Joseph was more fun in part 2, Kakyoin and Abdul are underutilized, Polnareff is basically the main character, half the stand fights feel like filler, and the pacing is really bad since very few of these fights actually advance the plot or provide some sort of character development it was just stand battle after stand battle until Araki felt like stopping.
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>>332418989
part 4 was one big puzzle and each piece/story arc fits together perfectly

>beginning has jotaro and josuke bonding
>middle establishes and develops koichi's character, has some father-son time with josuke and joseph, develops okuyasu some more, establishes a major plot point which explains how kira is able to escape the first time, develops josuke's friendship with okuyasu more
>towards the end rohan gets more development, even though he hates josuke's guts he doesn't want him to get killed
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>>332447105
I liked Jotaro, I didn't know that many people hated him.
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>>332447267
Hes a pretty shitty character pretty much until the lovers. Compare it to Jonathan, who takes a couple episodes to become likeable, or Joseph or Josuke who are likeable pretty much from the get go.
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>>332447576
he's a much better supporting character than a protagonist
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For me he crosses the line between a Clint Eastwood stoic type character and a quiet autist who only opens there mouth to say stupid shit that they think makes them look cool. I like him a lot better in part 4 though since he becomes the perfect mentor for Josuke and he doesn't win all the time.
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>>332447678
Exactly, which is why Polnareff, Kakyoin Hol Horse are more interesting characters. I think Araki realised this and made the main characters more interesting after part 3.

Still cant beat Joseph though
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>>332445275
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>>332423076
How's part 6? I'm in the last 500 pages of part 5 and looking forward to it.
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What the fuck happened to their noses in the anime?

I just watched the part 4 PV and they look like fucking shit :DDD
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