>Not wanting jeremy soule in your shitty game to make it x99 times better only with his music
>Has to do a fucking test for free to see if hes music is good for a game
>asking Jeremy Soule to do a free demo
What in the actual fuck?
Just go play one of the dozens of games that he's done the soundtrack for.
has to be 343 or whoever is making halo these days
they already fucked over their last huge name composer so it's obvious it's them
>>332409492
343/Microsoft makes the most sense.
Usually, "free demos" and "art tests" are a way for publishers to get free work from young artists who are just starting out.
The modus operandi is that you contact as many nameless artists as you can and ask each of them to do an art test. And take their work and tell every single one of them that they're not the right person.
Trying to pull that trick on jeremy soule is downright disrespectful. baka desu senpai.
Jeremy Soule is pretty much exclusively a Fantasy composer so it'd have to be a company making fantasy games.
Supposedly the company makes $5.5 billion in games specifically. Either Sony or Microsoft it seems.
Is he the faggot responsible for the OSTs of The Cuck Scrolls games?
Low Energy
>>332409492
>>332409661
>>332409904
Bioware maybe?
>>332409757
Is that legal? I'm not an artist but I'd protect myself with a contract like "You can only use this free sample if you end up hiring me for the project"
>>332410054
obvious teenager trying to fit in
>>332410147
>Bioware maybe?
damn maybe. EA would be the publisher and they're dumb enough to tell himt hat
Does EA have 5.5 billion in revenue though?
He's not wrong though. Agencies love to ask creative people to work for free. It's complete bullshit.
>>332409904
But it'd be neither of them because both have studios that produce highly profitable AAA titles and he said the publisher hasn't had a hit in years.
>>332410054
Nigga are you thinking of a different series? while the game play of the games maybe subpar the music is fantastic
>>332410161
>hurr durr muh Elder Scrolls were cool, except the last 2 and the first two I didnt play because it was before I was born
>muh Morrowind
>>332410275
>he said the publisher hasn't had a hit in years.
Does that necessarily mean financially though? Soule isn't an outsider to gaming, I wouldn't be surprised if he just meant a particularly great game.
>>332410147
If you try to do anything but agree to their terms, they'll just ignore you and move on to the next person or try to bullshit you into agreeing.
Because they're a big company with all the money and you're the nameless artist, they expect you to agree just for the non-existant change of getting hired. They especially love preying on the fans of their own products, like if you have lots of fanart of their game or something.
>>332410312
how old are you seriously lmao
>>332410147
He literally made the music for KOTOR you plebs
>>332410415
old enough to fuck you're mum
>>332410147
Oh, forgot the most important bit.
They don't have to use the work verbatim, just the elements and ideas present in the work.
If you design something for free and show them, they won't steal the image, they'll steal the design.
Good luck proving anything after that.
>asking for a free demo from Jeremy soule himself.
What are they smoking?
>>332409292
>asking Jeremy Soule a fucking demo
GEE, HOW ABOUT GOIN ON YOUTUBE AND LISTENING TO HIS SHIT DIRECTLY, FUCKING HACKS
>>332410460
if this shit ain't obvious this nigga is baiting hard
>>332410342
If he considers his highest profile games (Elderscrolls) to be laudable then he can't talk badly about Halo or Uncharted.
>>332409292
Jeremy Soule's creative zenith was in 2006. After that everything was low-intensity, bland and unimaginative.
Just put on a game of Morrowind, Oblivion or Guild Wars and sink into the music. It's gripping, radiant and mixed well. I have a hard time making out the music in Skyrim. It's just ambient background waffle to be honest.
I kind of reject the notion that just having him in your game makes it 99x better. That being said, trying to contract free work from a renowned professional is a downright con-artist business practise.
>>332409292
Can't they just Youtube his folio?
>>332410528
Have you seen the reception for Oblivion/Skyrim? I think he can.
>But again, this is a game publisher that hasn't had a hit in a long while
EA.
>>332410509
>release text based "RPG" in fucking 2002
>permavirgins defend it 14 years later
>>332410576
Anon they know who he is, they're just looking for cheap free music.
>>332409757
Can't up n coming artist copy right their work so that they don't just take it for free though? I've heard and seen this "give us samples" so that companies take them as "gifts" from the artist, but they can also copy right their craft to protect themselves from this bullshit too.
>>332410559
>After that everything was low-intensity, bland and unimaginative
Someone didn't listen to the GW2 soundtrack.
Soule is really shitty as a person and a literal jew (he also literally compared pirating his music to Holocaust, I shit you not) but he's in the right here.
>mfw jews are trying to outjew a jew
Guild Wars 1 soundtrack still gets me every time.
Great composer.
>>332410487
they perfectly know his body of work, it's some hamfisted intimidation tactic they'd pull with soundcloud-tier applicants
>>332409292
huh, old publisher no hits according to jeremy
Sega? but they have alien isolation and total war which are hits
one could argue activision which doesn't ahve new IP at all
then there is EA,new IPs of which are terrible or non existent
i'd wager it's EA they have no appreciation of talent
>>332410685
WHAT?! GW2 was rehashed GW1 music.
>>332410601
But the same thing goes for the other series. Highly successful both critically and financially yet all three franchises are dumb down gameplay wise to attract a big audience. He can't say a studio hasn't had a hit in awhile when they have the backing of studios producing some of the biggest names in gaming today.
>>332410651
Well that's very faggotry considering all the great tracks he made even non-RPG tracks e.g. Dawn of War
>>332410736
>he also literally compared pirating his music to Holocaust
who gives a shit
are you a teenager who can't afford to buy music, lmao
>>332410736
>he also literally compared pirating his music to Holocaust
haha what?
>>332410818
>complete first main quest
>50% of the game complete
>>332410657
You can do that, but then they'll just say "no" and you've wasted time on a piece that is tailored to THEIR demands that they won't buy. What are you going to do with a copyrighted piece that you can't monetize?
Since you're the one wasting your time, any kind of work should be done with payment in advance.
So yeah, never do free work without payment, ever, for any reason. You'll get fucked over.
Thats the kind of jewish practices id expect out of ea or Activision actuall
>>332410826
So you didn't listen to the soundtrack?
>Fuck this studio for asking me to do unpaid work, but I wont name them though
Why did he even open his mouth at all?
>>332410627
Depends what you class as a hit. Inquisition was a critical and commercial success, and Battlefront sold more than even expectations.
Both were shit games, but they were hits.
It's really hard to know who he might be talking about because all of the billion dollar publishers I can think of make games that are massive hits. They might be utter shite (Call of Duty) or creatively void (EA), but they still make hits. It can't be Bethesda because they've worked together frequently.
Nexon perhaps?
>>332410958
I did. Outside of Fear Not This Night, there's literally nothing new.
>>332410912
you can reuse it somewhere along your life sometime, who knows
better keep your cards to yourself - always
>>332410978
NDA you idiot.
>Asking for a demo
>From Jeremy Soule
Have they tried that Oo-eh Matt Su guy or whatever? Maybe he'll be ok with providing some demos.
>>332410559
>is a downright con-artist business practise
it's pretty dumb too, I doubt he has problem finding work considering he's probably one of the most well known composer in the industry
You could get away with that shit with a desperate young artist trying to make it but a well known professional? Complete idiocy.
>>332410843
Ebin anon.
I'm not even talking about the holocaust denial argument.
I'm laughing at the fact how stupid he is for actually comparing pirating a musical piece to killing of 6 gorillion.
>>332410857
>But forget the Pirate Bay… Piracy is now mainstream. Not since the Holocaust have we seen so many people of a select group forcibly stripped of their livelihoods in a public euphoria of false morals. As one who is of Jewish descent, I can say that I make this statement in a very narrow fashion, but there are similarities. Creators are being vilified, laughed off and treated with indifference by scary multitudes of people who care not for artists’ lives or liberties–let alone the concerns involved in the making of art. The new “norm” is being heralded as “liberation” from the “contrived” and “unfair” standards of fees and payments that have traditionally been worked out in a fair market society. Instead, this is the new unfair market society. The “Jews” in this valid analogy are creators. We are losing our homes, our futures and our ability to take care of our children. Laugh. I dare you. And unlike the streetlamp lighters, the world still needs creators!
>>332409904
composed for KotOR too
>>332409292
Artist here, 3d and 2d.
Art tests are quite neccesary because just cause you have one nice thing in your portfolio, what\s to say it didn\t take you a month to make it.
It is, however, shitty to take an absolute god and treat him like an avarage grunt bitch
>>332410978
To rant? It's what normies do on social media these days.
>>332409292
Who the fuck is Jeremy soule are you all gonna act like you know some video game composer by face and name? This is a literally who thread
Sounds like Square and Sega to me.
>>332410905
>trying this hard
>>332409292
>(Skyrim,Oblivion, Morrowind composer)
>not mentioning the best work he did in SoE
>>332411057
>I'm laughing at the fact how stupid he is for actually comparing pirating a musical piece to killing of 6 gorillion.
And I don't give a shit, because I really don't care about what he thinks about piracy. I have a job that pays for music and he makes good music.
>>332409757
You're talking out of your ass.
>>332411109
>>332411143
>Who the fuck is Jeremy soule are you all gonna act like you know some video game composer by face and name?
I hate casuals like you.
>>332410989
Nexon usually hires korean soundgroups, no?
>Asking Jeremy Soule to do a "free demo"
>>332409904
He also composed some music on War Thunder
>look him up on Wikipedia to see just how absurd this is
>he's made a fucking bazillion soundtracks including some really big name stuff
I wish he'd say who this disgusting company is.
Also
>his first work was Secret of Evermore
Badass.
>>332411143
Shoo. Go back to whatever game forum you crawled from.
>>332409292
>Jeremy Soule
>complaining about dodgy business practices and greed
I hate this reality
>Hasn't had a hit in a long while
That's literally fucking SEGA. No other big publisher fits the bill.
>>332410736
he's not a shitty person; I can personally testify. He's right about music though.But it's not piracy that's killing musicians, it's spotify.
>>332411217
for real? no wonder it seemed way above their studio
>>332409292
>literally who turning down multi-billion dollar company just because he made some tracks for famous games
grow up, people involved in the gaming industry are no ones.
>>332411143
He's easily the most well-known one
>>332411259
Elaborate.
>>332411217
Nah, he didn't compose for WT.
He composed the music for Birds of Prey (a console game released under Sturmovik brand) which was Gaijin's first WW2 flight game. It was later re-released on PC as Wings of Prey.
Gaijin later reused music from it in Birds of Steel, a console sequel which was later ported to PC in evolved form as War Thunder.
>>332411196
I'm casual because I don't enjoy ambient music nor do I give a fuck when game credits roll? This is worse than the e-celeb threads.
Jeremy Soule is fucking washed up as fuck. He hasn't made a truly memorable track in years. His Guild Wars 2 work was absolute shit and thank fucking god they replaced him for the expansion.
Old has-been, do not care about his random facebook barfings.
>>332411057
I mean hey, I can understand the guy not wanting to get ripped off, but comparing it to the holocaust might be a bit extreme
>>332411278
Not that I don't believe you but I can personally testify that he is a terrible person
>>332411236
>>his first work was Secret of Evermore
Also his best work
>>332410460
>speaking like a complete retard typing out "hurr durr" and "muhs" to prove a point.
You sound like you're 16 - and I'm being honest.
>Jeremy soule, the jew, the kike, the one and only
I like his music but fucker could die in a fire for all I care.
>>332411025
Yeah I'm sure they told him what their secret unannounced game was before even seeing if he was interested, I bet it works just like that.
>>332411274
they are poor though, i'm not sure they break 300m yearly
Why is Jeremy Soule popular anyway
It's 99% generic orchestra noise and maybe 1 or 2 memorable tracks
Skyrim's literal only good track is Ancient Stones
>>332411345
I guess I was lucky.
>>332411208
Isn't Guild Wars under Nexon? he did the soundtrack for both of those.
>>332411362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDwl-31afEc
>>332410460
anyone who responds this way is actually underage
>>332411143
Overrated but mediocre composer, that /v/ loves because he makes le skyrim music
>>332410857
>haha what?
It's true. He's literally the "oy vey" jew stereotype. He took the post down but you can still find the reactions over his dumb post all over the internet linking to his site.
>How bad is piracy today?
>But forget the Pirate Bay… Piracy is now mainstream. Not since the Holocaust have we seen so many people of a select group forcibly stripped of their livelihoods in a public euphoria of false morals. As one who is of Jewish descent, I can say that I make this statement in a very narrow fashion, but there are similarities. Creators are being vilified, laughed off and treated with indifference by scary multitudes of people who care not for artists’ lives or liberties–let alone the concerns involved in the making of art. The new “norm” is being heralded as “liberation” from the “contrived” and “unfair” standards of fees and payments that have traditionally been worked out in a fair market society. Instead, this is the new unfair market society. The “Jews” in this valid analogy are creators. We are losing our homes, our futures and our ability to take care of our children. Laugh. I dare you. And unlike the streetlamp lighters, the world still needs creators!
>>332411413
>proving his point
I dont get it
>>332411274
You think SEGA is multi billion? KEK
>>332411274
now I'm curious what he'd write the soundtrack for though
>>332411337
>His Guild Wars 2 work was absolute shit
If you like the HOT soundtrack then you're just as pleb as I think you are
that shit's for taylor swift fans
>>332410559
I can see where you are coming from, but not all of his more recent work has been bland.
I particularly love this track from skyrim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S75_4XxBeE
>>332410243
Probably, EA is fucking rich they been in the game for along ass time
>>332411362
This
His Secret of Evermore shit was a creative departure from things previously seen on a 16-bit console. His Morrowind and Oblivion main themes were fairly memorable, though the additional tracks got stale pretty quickly. Everything else he's done has just been a major yawnfest.
>OH WOW SAD LILTING FLUTES ANOTHER SOULE MASTERPIECE
>>332411413
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>332411410
No you're thinking of NCSOFT.
>>332411309
Directsong (his company) is possibly the most dodgy company in existence and he has no problem scamming people
>>332411442
Grow up underage pleb and grow some taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKvMyruPTA
>>332411303
But I mean on a day to day basis who gives a fuck this isn't video games no-one cares about this dude except the 3 people circle jerking in this thread and the other 3 who hurried up and googled this dude so as not to be left outta the cool 4chan conversation
>>332411362
every single one of his old soundtracks is great.
Morrowind, Oblivion, KotOR,Harry Potter 2, Harry Potter 3l are absolutely devastating.
>>332410685
I did. The GW2 music stands in pretty stark contrast to the rehashed GW1 music. In other words, GW2 music sounds even worse, even less intense and compelling when contrasted to the GW1 soundtrack.
I couldn't hum you one tune of the GW2 soundtrack. It's that forgettable.
>>332411163
>>332410905
>>332410818
>>332410638
>>332410509
>>332410460
>>332410415
>>332410312
>>332410161
>>332410054
Are these two actually trying to have an argument or are they just consciously acting like retards on purpose?
>>332411362
>>332411464
>I don't listen to the soundtracks, but I'll judge his work off of what plays in game
>>332411442
>being tone deaf
must be hard
>>332411449
>>332411410
Name me one multi billion publisher that hasn't had a hit in a long while.
>>332409292
must be Ubisoft, cant get any more merchant than Ubisoft
>>332411413
Literally American sawano
>>332411274
It was probably Creative Assembly then. They'll be making a game based on the life of Jimmy Saville want him to do the programming on the Jim'll Fix It DLC
>>332411506
He made the GW1 tracks, which I liked because I spent a few thousand hours playing the game, that's why I know him
But it's like knowing who Hans Zimmer is- nothing of importance, but still good to know
>>332411502
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>332411565
how about soundtracks that are actually interesting to listen to?
>>332411565
>I'm mentally retarded
>>332409292
>hasn't had a hit in a long while
It's probably Nintendo. Not only does the above fit them to a tee, they would totally do something stupid like ask for a free demo and just expect people to do it because they're Nintendo
Soule, a literal Jew, The Kike Himself, complaining about others wanting to jew him.
Oh this is rich.
Has he ever thought that maybe it's karmic retribution?
He's the man that compared music piracy to holocaust.
He also owns the worst music distribution service I've ever seen with most draconic DRM in existence known as DirectSong.
>>332411194
do you share your music with your wife's son?
>>332411518
I swear I'm seeing Garden Warfare 2 everytime you guys type GW2
>>332411496
Completely false. This only happens/ed with CD orders for GW2.
Have you bought anything from Directsong? Very easy and very fast service.
>>332411518
I could hum tracks very easily, but I'm sure you're a HUGE music fan huh?
>>332411109
>>332411195
You're a retard and a sucker.
Art tests aren't neccessary. The client looks at your portfolio and makes a decision. To hire you or not.
Pussyfooting around with art tests and getting people to do work for free is a fucking scummy jewish practice that only happens because spineless losers like you allow it.
Educate yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD7wfOs
http://seanwes.com/podcast/157-should-artists-work-for-free-just-because-a-business-gives-to-charity/
>>332411556
>two
>>332411413
>posts a song that's generic orchestra noise
>>332411661
yeah we got that pretty clear from your posts
>>332411303
Uematsu is literally the most known video game composer in history.
>>332411608
Microsoft. Name a hit they've had.
>>332411556
It's a little kid trying to troll and some autistic retard feeding him nothing to see
>>332409292
Sounds like Valve....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYNducoZxBw
this is the BOMB
>>332409292
>asking Jeremy fucking Soule to write a free demo
I lol'd IRL
>>332411654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6hb95nJ3MM
Here is something up your underage valley.
>>332411565
Is this the dumbest post in the thread?
>>332411705
never heard of him
>>332411705
who?
Actors have to audition for their parts so I don't see why this pompous piece of shit can't sucker up to the fact that the developers actually want music that fits their game, rather than him marching into the studio with his shitty bland orchestral bullshit.
>>332411654
>>332411661
>I don't care about music, but am pretending to in order to criticize a vidya composer.
>>332411667
Hi teenager!
>>332411143
why not google him and then go "oh neat" when you realize he's done the soundtrack for a few games you've played instead of being a faggot
>>332410736
Yeah, it's one of those times where I've learned to separate art and artists. I mean I can understand why a musician would not like piracy but to compare it to the Holocaust is pretty retarded.
>>332409292
>they don't ask a janitor to clean 2 weeks for free
Actually, unpaid trial/evaluation isn't uncommon in the real world. He should stop whining like a little bitch.
>>332411491
Ah yeah you're right.
I have no idea who he could be talking about then.
>>332411718
Oh fuck you're right, Microsoft fits the bill.
ITT: Underage.
It's about time you people realized who you share 4chan with nowadays.
Neo/v/ has been a thing for years but you refuse to accept it.
Seriously just move on.
NOW GO, LEAVE THIS PLACE AND NEVER RETURN
Yeah, the dude's busy traveling the world on Kickstarter money. He doesn't have time for demos.
>>332411752
>>332411768
ebin, truly ebin
gonna link something interesting yet? everything linked so far sounds like your average Pixar movie soundtrack
>>332411768
Do you have an actual point to make? We're talking about Jeremy Soule's music and how it's boring, tepid, repetitive garbage with a few isolated exceptions.
>>332411767
>Actors have to audition for their parts so I don't see why this pompous piece of shit can't sucker up to the fact that the developers actually want music that fits their game
But they don't steal the actors likeness for the movie
And Soule has done so many games you should KNOW whether he'd be a fit for your game
Bungue for Destiny 2. Calling it
>>332411690
>Have you bought anything from Directsong? Very easy and very fast service
This new trolling fad where people post like markteters is really getting boring
ITT: Videogame teenagers pretend to have ANY taste in music by hating on a popular composer
Stick to your electroswing and /mu/core, kids.
>>332411752
>Wants to make fun of him
>Posts really awesome music
???
>>332411805
yea, when you are 18 and intern
but for people many years in industry with reputation is insulting
>>332409292
I agree, at least with asking for a proffesional. They should probably know exactly what his music sounds like, and if they want to hire him they could suggest certain themes to whatever he produces.
Sure a free composition might be fair if it was an indie dev, asking a indie musician.
>>332411876
t. dadrock fan
>>332411824
They even shutdown Lionhead recently. I don't know what's going on with them.
>>332411695
"wah wah wah I don't understand shit"
Just cause your portfolio looks nice it doesn't tell them wether you can shit out a new portfolio by late afternoon.
>>332411690
>completely false
I'm going to have to stop you there, I spent over a year dealing with their bullshit for more than just the GW2 soundtrack so trying to claim that they aren't dodgy won't work, I'm sorry
>>332411945
Dadrock is garbage too, along with /mu/core.
>>332411705
I don't know him because I don't live in Asia
But I guess you have a point if we go by numbers, if we asked chingchong /v/ they'd support your opinion I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEgLvaMDT4E
if THIS doesn't rousle your trousle I think all hope is lost to you anon
>>332411608
Nintendo? I can imagine them pulling off a retarded stunt like this.
>>332409492
They should hire Bear McCreary, I feel like he'd do a damn good job at Halo
>>332411664
>hasnt had a hit in long time
They shit out 10 million selling games nearly every year(on 3ds) and often get fellated by critics, so unless you mean hardware hit i doubt they would fit that criteria.
Not that nintendo dosent treat its employees like shit considering the process you have to go through to even get a job interview is some boot camp tier shit.
yo fuck skyrim and all the elder scrolls shit
harry potter music is where it's at
>>332411705
I'd argue for Kondo
>>332412021
Don't they have their own in studio musicians? Nintendo would never seem the type to hire out for something like this.
>>332411994
>I spent over a year dealing with their bullshit for more than just the GW2 soundtrack
Learn to read my post?
Jeremy Soule is good but he hasn't made a good soundtrack since Guild Wars 1.
>>332411987
That's their problem.
The time spent working for a "maybe" could be better spent doing work that actually pays, or working on your skills, which will also pay in the future.
You're a fucking loser, enjoy getting taken advantage of.
>>332411667
/pol/ please
Didn't he do the music for this too or am I thinking of someone else?
TA had a pretty rad soundtrack and you could rip it right off the game CD.
>>332412015
>over half the video is silence
?
also I don't get what's so amazing about this one
it's pretty for a moment but it's very repetitive
>>332412038
Martin O'Donnell was the best Halo composer, they should get him back
>>332412056
nintendo is not shit to artists
>>332412139
that he did
>>332412120
>Learn to read my post?
dude... read the quote you just fucking used. Pay special attention to the use of the words "more than"
>>332412173
>pretty
all hope is lost
I am telling you it is Sega. No one else fits the description so perfectly.
Sawano is a better composer.
>>332412136
What does that have to do with /pol/
Have you SEEN DirectSong? Have you ordered anything from them?
And if you think comparing literally making a COPY of a musical piece to MURDERING 6 GORILLION(implying it even happened)is a fair comparison then you're fucked in the head anon.
If he compared it to 9/11 or literally any other mass murder event I'd laugh at his retardation all the same.
>>332412176
Not to the ones that are employed, but potential employees get treated like shit.
>>332412258
what, am I supposed to be moved by a kind of music I've heard a jillion zillion times before or something?
>>332410247
It's fucking stupid too. You have no idea how many times I've heard "we'll pay you with experience!". No, you fucking pay me with money. You don't ask people at McDonald's to work for experience.
>>332411836
WHERE
EVERYTHING IS SHIT
>>332410912
>What are you going to do with a copyrighted piece that you can't monetize?
Reuse it or make it public domain. Either of these are valid options.
>>332412274
MULTI
BILLION
SEGA is not multi billion
>>332412131
>You're a fucking loser, enjoy getting taken advantage of
This. Any artist willing to work for free for a shot at fame is not only a huge moron who deserves to be taken advantage of but is also hurting other artists by devaluing the work itself.
>>332412173
That would be the best case but we both know that's not happening. Marty would probably just tell them to fuck off no matter what the offer
Bear would be a good choice though, he does:
>strong piano motifs
>loves big drums
>loves nonstandard time signatures
>loves quasi-religious sounding vocals
>loves character-related themes
Tell me you don't hear this as a Halo menu song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-Js_rMEV4
>>332412274
It's either SEGA or Microsoft.
>>332412131
"I have no experience how the games industry works"
You sure are stupid.
You'll get better with an art est anwy. I learned loads with my last art test, that lasted 2 weeks.
And good luck finding work that pays without an art test, unless you draw furry porn.
>>332412298
>Have you SEEN DirectSong? Have you ordered anything from them?
Not him but I have, bought the GW1 soundtrack and got a link right after purchasing. Downloaded MP3 zip and that was it.
Have YOU?
>If he compared it to 9/11 or literally any other mass murder event I'd laugh at his retardation all the same.
Seriously do you not have a job to pay for music or something
Nobody gives a shit unless you are such a child that you depend on piracy for all your shit
>Jeremy "Piracy is literally a second Holocaust" Soule
>>332411057
>buy game
>buy movie
>buy book
>want to access them on a different computer without bringing the game or movie around/scanning the book
>this is thr same as supporting genocide
Lmao
>>332412363
Deep web/dark net.
>>332409292
Sounds like he's butthurt he has to audition to get jobs.
>>332412420
Kinda sounds like it'd be in neo-Halo soundtracks; older soundtracks had a different charm for them. I could see it in Halo 3 though.
>>332411362
This.
He's the Hans Zimmer of video game music: talentless to the core, but the normies eat it up anyway.
Secret of Evermore remains his only good work to date.
>>332412420
Wait what? BSG had a good sountrack? What?
>>332412428
But the new Halo was a huge hit.
>>332412443
Now try to order anything physical you literal fucking shill.
>>332412438
>Worked for free
>For two weeks
You fucking idiot.
>Jeremy "I love the smell of my own shit" Soule
>>332410054
>maybe if I reply with a few irrelevant buzzwords, /v/ will like me
>>332412438
>Game industry
Well, there's your problem.
Why do you want to get into the most oversturated entertainment industry ever, where employees are treated like dirt?
You literally worked for free because "muh vidya". You did work for no compensation.
Did they even hire you? LEL no.
Loser.
>>332411690
Nigga, I learned how to play Glory of Cyrodiil on classic guitar. I've built my own harp, I've taught myself to play it, I learned to play keyboard by myself and I'm learning how to sing. And I try to write my own pieces. That means I'm very concerned with artist who come up with original, compelling music. Soule did that, and doesn't anymore, for whatever reason. And I'm certain he can do it again, but he isn't right now. My life revolves around this shit.
There is a definite, tangible, measurable difference in the intensity and scope of his earlier and later works. Try to say otherwise with a straight face.
>>332411450
>now I'm curious what he'd write the soundtrack for though
>tfw they asked him to do some songs for a new hatsune miku game
>>332412520
I can't believe there are people that tasteless
>>332412520
At least Hans Zimmer can compose something that's interesting to listen to in comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1WKLy84amg
This is 100% more interesting than most Soule tracks
>>332412520
He did Total Annihilation
>>332412621
This is you:
>What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>332409292
Gotta pinch every shekel y'all fuckin know who I mean.
>>332412539
Shit yeah it did, probably one of the best things about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAedoUZPNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlcUwUwjLrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgXIf9jhF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PztMcNH8t2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD8BDwErzR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGcMPp7TNo4
>>332412621
they're trolls.
>>332412683
You better believe it. And those people all listen to good ol' Hans.
I dunno. Smells like modern Blizzard tactics to me.
>>332412686
>This is 100% more interesting than most Soule tracks
Stick to electroswing, kid.
>>332412731
> I have no argument: The Post
Waiter, can you please bring this pasta back to the meme-kitchen? I think the meme-chef used some stale ingredients.
>>332409292
well considering he's one of the most well known i'm not surprised someone wanted a demo to see if he'd fit their body of work before dropping ridiculous sums of money to get the elder scrolls sound track again.
>>332412514
It is a different feel for sure but it's at least memorable, I don't remember a single song from Halo 5
>>332412826
You sure convinced me with your hot opinions!
it was capcom
>>332412607
the piece he posted is the only one I like in the guild wars soundtrack
>>332412591
>i am complaining about a thing that I don't understand nor affects me
>I am shitting on someone who works hard towards their dream, because they aren't a basementdwelling neet
You're completely, utterly fucking retarded, senpai. No wonder you can't go outside
>>332412620
Because it's my dream. The studio was really nice and it's ran by some people I know, so I know working there is nice. I didn't get it but I have some other places lined up.
I don't really give a shit what you think, I know I'll be ,and I allready have been, making games for twats like you.
>>332412621
I learned to play the Mario theme on fruity loops so how about you back the fuck off?
Hey /v/ can you not talk about shit you have no understanding of?
thanks, appreciated
>>332412853
>my only rebuttal is copypasta
>>332412791
I was talking about you. Comparing Hans to Soule is kind of a disgrace
>>332412873
>The studio was really nice and it's ran by some people I know, so I know working there is nice
>I didn't get it but I have some other places lined up.
AHAHAHAHAHAHH HOLY SHTI
>>332412462I've always been under the impression an imageboard there would be borderline dead.
Know any places that aren't infested with goon autists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga8KbMcUfm8
Who /frenchhorn/ here?
>>332411987
I don't know what kind of art you make or who you've worked for, but I can promise you that 'art tests' are not legit at all. They're wasting your time. And I know that from experience, you're being used.
Any legit company is going to look at your portfolio and your work experience and your online presence and make a judgement based on that. Actual talent isn't going to waste time doing art tests, and they know that. The companies that can't pick up the actual talent are the ones messing people around with art tests and ending up with low quality artists.
Trust me, having self respect and pride in your work takes you much further than bending over for shitty companies who are promising you the big time.
>>332412887
And in what does the Mario theme have to do with Jeremy Soule's music?
> inb4 you teleport behind me
>>332412919
>my only rebuttal is insulting your opinion without even comparing zimmer and soule in my refutation
>>332412863
>Capcom
>Jeremy Soule
I don't see it working.
>>332412769
Even better is that BSG was Bear McCreary's literal first gig. He was supposed to just be an assistant composer but the main composer quit before production started.
He also scored the Metalocalypse opera movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4W5ZYJtSkw
>>332409292
I really want to see the dumb sluts who approached him confess on their shitty little tumblr/instagram/twitter account and pathetically attempt to apologize to him and/or damage control their way out.
>>332412941
>holy shit someone has ambition and drive
>let's laugh at him
Ok. Remember to dump all your jizzbottles in the upcoming spring cleaning
>>332411347
Good stuff, but his Genesis soundtracks were legendary.
>>332411320
>baiting this hard
Kondo is the only composer I know.
>>332413000
I'm not the guy you were arguing with, I just saw that you looked like a faggot and had to point it out
>>332411303
I only know Frank Klepacki
>>332413135
shitty replies get shitty copypasta ;^)
>>332413057
When you let employers walk over you like a doormat you realize you are not only fucking yourself but setting a precedent for them to fuck others over?
It must be a very sad life being both a spineless wuss and an utter cunt.
>>332413057
Dude, you're a fucking loser who spent two weeks working for free and didn't even get hired at the end. Didn't even get the "exposure" they promised. You're a fucking rube.
You do have passion allright.
Passion for getting bent over, fucked in the ass and abandoned like a barren whore.
>>332413192
My favorite right here. Probably the only guy who can do electronic music with variety
>>332412769
Fucking neat, thanks. The Roslin & Adama piece is fucking fantastic in particular. I love it.
>>332412981
Online presence and portfolio tells jack shit about peoples work ethic.
Games industry is the one where you need to shit out shit daily, every day, for 8-12 hours a day.
And once you finally finish it and love it, you'll have to delete it and remake it. Or instead of working on your favorite highpoly spaceships, you have to do cutesy lowpoly chibi shit for a phone game.
Portfolio and online presence does not tell you that they can do that. Art tests are essential and your bitching only means you are all that: a bitch.
>>332412873
>He does it for free
>Didn't get the job
>Stuffed around by "people he knew"
>>332412950
Can't name them in this thread anon for obvious reasons.
>>332413248
>>332413224
>i don't understand shit.com
Wow keep talking out of your ass.
Every company requires art tests for roles. Unless you're a top dog, get used to them.
Life isn't easy. Enjoy taking out a bank loan when you break your leg, fag.
>>332412392
Sega Sammy has enough money to buy Nintendo twice.
YOKO
O
K
O
Most likely EA, for their open world RPG in development, Jade's game.
>>332409292
>multi million publisher
>hasn't had a hit in a long while
>clueless and stupid and arrogant
It's Valve. It has to be fucking Valve.
>>332413276
I think Diaspora Oratorio is his best but that one's good too
Couple more for the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c2ZJPKz5u8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yj0Iwa8_gk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuVh3BVJCmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JculidrJIbI
>>332413385
save me
NAME A BETTER VIDEOGAME COMPOSER THAN JEREMY SOULE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-h4qrcvs7U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKLfvt6CZCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSw0CyFYV4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaB6V4_bF3I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBOv-W_aPjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YySrK_dY898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyl4hQsij_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUfvMZuKU8c
>>332413357
Been doing it for free for 10 years now.
Now I just did it for free and had a chance of getting hired at an great company afterwards.
Suck it up, being artist is hard, but in the end you get paid to fuck around and not having to do "real" work and to shove it in the face of disbelievers and retards like you.
>>332412363
dumb frogposter you're part of the problem
>>332413404
>Every company requires art tests for roles
Only if they can tell you're a spineless loser who does work for free.
Telling by the fact that you're completely oblivious to the scummy nature of "art tests", every single company you've contacted must have asked you to do free work. I can't think of anything more pathetic than that.
>>332413192
Him and Graeme Norgate are the only two I really care about.
>tfw their websites have all of their work free to listen to
truly god tier
>>332413404
>He does it for free
>He takes his lack of a job VERY seriously
>>332413597
>links shit from GW2
: ^ )
>>332413597
From Past to Present has to be my alltime favorite.
>>332413702
Did you listen to it?
>>332412873
>work for free
>didn't even get the job
NIGGA, YOU GOT SCAMMED.
JESUS FUCK, NEVER WORK FOR FREE, EVER.
IF YOU'RE AN ARTIST YOU CAN ALWAYS SHOWCASE PREVIOUS WORK THAT FITS THE THEME OF THE JOB YOU'RE APPLYING FOR, BUT YOU NEVER WORK FOR FREE.
What the fuck, anon.
>>332413597
any of them
>>332411025
Why would he sign an NDA for a company he isn't going to do work for?
>>332411964
You don't ?
>fucking 2+ billions on minecraft, a license that will not get them any of that back since all kis got it already
>Xbone is really a fucking disaster so far
>new augmented reality gimmick shit with .. minecraft as a gaming beacon
>when most people will actually not care about VR anyway
Microsoft is a bit like Sony, just .. worse.
>New thing hype
>Sony copies it
>MS copies Sony
>but for a higher cost
>less interesting
>more intrusive
>and months late
>>332413743
yeah, it's your average soule soundtrack alright
>>332412686
Occasionally Zimmer has a stroke of genius and composes something worth a damn. Listen to the score he did for The Pledge, it's completely unlike him. It's quiet, subtle and still melodic. Zimmer's modus operandi usually goes like this:
>come up with a melody so simple even a mouth-breathing retard would take offense
>add strings and horns, maybe a few keys if the scene is supposed to be "emotional"
>play around with the volume, depending on the intensity of the scene you're supposed to score
>copy the track five times and alter it slightly in tempo and volume
>deflect criticism by yelling MUH LEITMOTIF
>fill the rest of the score with generic ambient wobbling and call it a day
To this day, I'm puzzled by how Zimmer could become as popular as he did. The man couldn't compose his way out of a paper bag.
As far as mainstream movie composers go, Angelo Badalamenti, Howard Shore, Clint Mansell and Ennio Morricone are still the best.
>>332412621
>That means I'm very concerned with artist who come up with original, compelling music
And I've done none of the things you've done yet I'm just as concerned as you are. Don't try to act like an authority on music on /v/ of all places just because you taught yourself how to play a few instruments.
>>332413298
>Th-they'll hire me n-next time f-for s-sure
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>332413635
I just want to leave and never come back. Why won't you let me leave?
>>332413818
Actually it isn't at all.
Find me 3 other tracks like that.
And 3 like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UniOGEmUZQ
>>332413782
Except Minecraft is now sold to schools, and there's already plenty of merchandise for it.
They'll get the money back easily.
>>332413298
This has to be b8 at this point.
>>332413647
They'd propably not even consider looking at your portfolio wth you acting like such a stuck up prick.
If you can't even do a simple art test, I dread to imagine what kind of an autistic bitch fit youd throw when somone told your OC sonichu is shit and needs to be remade.
Literally every company, from AAA to AA has art tests. Unless you team up with indieshits, get used to it.
>>332413745
Maybe if you're some shitty deviantart artist applying for book illustrator.
Game art industry in studio job is a different field with different values.
>>332413625
>but in the end you get paid to fuck around and not having to do "real" work
>>332413852
>clint mansell
not a big fan of his work on mass effect 3
the fountain, moon, much better
>>332413625
>Been doing it for free for 10 years now.
It sounds like you've let yourself be taken advantage of.
>>332410559
I think skyrims music is great and by far the best aspect of the game. And I'm not talking about meme shit like "The dragonborn comes" but the actual environmental music.
Very atmospheric.
>>332410559
I agree, Oblivion and GW have amazing music. Skyrim was kinda bland.
>>332409292
>Multibillion
>Hasn't had a hit in years
Probably Valve or maybe Microsoft.
>>332413298
Then you put that kind of shit into your showcase you fucking mongoloid.
Jesus fucking Christ, never work for free, ever.
>>332413852
>To this day, I'm puzzled by how Zimmer could become as popular as he did. The man couldn't compose his way out of a paper bag.
Because composing a movie soundtrack is more about being able to meet the deadline and provide the appropriate emotion/texture for a scene than it is about composing something unique
>>332413941
wow, that generic upbeat noise sure sounds different from all of soule's other generic slow, sad noise
>>332409292
Soule hasn't made good music in years though. His last good tracks were arguably in Skyrim and that was 5 years ago.
>>332413298
>ask previous employers for a reference
>or just look at games he's worked on previously
>>332413954
It's only b8 to people who know nothing about how things are outside their basements.
>>332413859
It was an appeal to authority and I apologise for that, but the point was made in counter of
> and you're a real music fan, huh?
I am. That was just to demonstrate how much I am. Nevertheless, that doesn't negate my point about how his work has become rather bland, boring and forgettable.
>>332414030
>noise
Jesus you're a pleb
>>332413782
way to prove you know nothing about business fucking idiot. Yeah But I'm sure you're better at making money than Microsoft.
>>332414092
great argument! ;^)
/m/ here. You are all fucking morons who dont know shit about anything. This is the worst board in all of 4chins.
>>332414002
Oi cunt don't talk to him like that, he has to support his wife's friend and his wife's son.
>>332413976
Working for free only gives the message that you'd be willing to work for free later on. This tells people you're an idiot and don't even need to be suckered into doing work for free because you'll do it willing.
>>332413298
>>332413976
If this isn't bait, give up on your "dream" and go work at McDonalds or something. You're embarrasing the rest of us and lowering the overall bar.
>>332414137
No seriously, you think that's noise. You must not listen to much music.
>>332414147
/fit/ reporting in for duty. You're all fucking DYEL manlets.
>>332413976
If working for free is so great, how come you didn't get hired?
Your work ethic not good enough?
>>332414147
thank you for your input, but im not sure what mecha has to do with this
>>332413625
>he does it for free
>he works for free
>he expects to get paid
>when he does it for free
Why would they pay you when they don't need to?
>>332414147
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES
>>332414210
all music is noise
jeremy soule more so, because it repeats itself and doesn't stand out
>>332413494
Valve has their own fucking studio orchestra though, I feel like they'd know what they're doing musicwise
Have we already forgotten the glorious soundtrack that was TF2?
>>332414023
>>332414002
These rules don't apply for game art industry.
Artests are essential since lol deadlines and massive team work.
If you want your shitty animorphic fur suit to be featured on some erotic fantasy novel and the author wants to art test, they're dumb.
IF a company wants to see wether the artist can work fast, isn't fussy and can nail the style in a tiny timeframe, there's no way other than an art test.
Otherwise you'll be hiring bunch of stuck up idiots and firing them a day later once you find out they're lazy cunts who get angry when they're told they're wrong. It has happened before, where even brilliant artists got sacked instantly cause they didn't understand the dicipline.
>>332411143
He made great ost from popular gamea
>>332414263
>*glass breaks*
>>332410912
If you don't do art tests you don't get hired.
>>332414256
>>332414224
>>332414209
>>332414160
>I drew the doomguy once and mommy put it on the fridge the posts
>>332413625
>>Been doing it for free for 10 years now.
>>Now I just did it for free and had a chance of getting hired at an great company afterwards.
As someone who's done a few scores for small games. You fucked up from the beginning. Don't do free stuff.
>>332414272
>all music is noise
You must not listen to much music.
>>332414395
>implying I'm an artist
Nah m8 my job actually pays money and not just experience
>>332414056
Musicians and composers change over time and the theme of the game may be entirely different from what he's done before. It's not unreasonable to ask for a recent work sample if your last hit was 5 years ago. They have the money, they make the rules; they aren't obligated to hire anyone.
>>332410912
So your solution, if you want to work as an artist in the games industry, is to never work in the games industry?
Are you retarded or just completely ignorant?
>>332414284
>IF a company wants to see wether the artist can work fast, isn't fussy and can nail the style in a tiny timeframe, there's no way other than an art test.
Then demand payment for it. Don't suck up and work for free just to show the faggot devs how fast you can work, demand payment for it.
IT'S YOUR TIME AND MONEY, ANON, AND FAGGOTS ARE LITERALLY USING YOU.
>>332411295
He is a Professional and can easily get away from game ost and do other shit
>>332413625
>Been doing it for free for 10 years now.
>but in the end
>10 years
>but in the end
> not having to do "real" work
please sit down, i need to tell you something about wrong way to do thing for 10 years
>>332413625
You do realize that all the companies in the same business keep close contact with each other and inform each other about their previous employees and stuff?
And guess what, THEY TELL EACH OTHER ABOUT THE FUCKING LOSERS THAT DO WORK FOR FREE TO LET EACH OTHER KNOW THAT THEY AN GET YOU TO DO FREE WORK
EVERY TIME YOU APPLY THEY'LL JUST ASK YOU FOR MORE ART TESTS BECAUSE THEY ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE A LOSER
You're never getting hired.
>>332414409
lad, a single violin note is noise
I meant the most literal interpretation of the word 'noise'
and then meant 'generic background noise' (such as a diner's background chatter) when talking about jeremy soule
good for atmosphere, bad for listening
>>332414067
Oh I agree with your points about Soule's music, but you've just gotta keep in mind that appealing to authority (and your own of all people) is always gonna have people write you off, especially here.
>>332414284
>IF a company wants to see wether the artist can work fast, isn't fussy and can nail the style in a tiny timeframe, there's no way other than an art test.
only for grads with 0 experience. everybody else has references, and the whole point of the fuckin probation period is to get a first-hand measure of the employee in the work environment. if you're working for free you're an idiot
>>332414514
No, he's right. Working in the game industry is hell and you are vastly underappreciated.
>>332414508
>they have the money
but they aren't offering any of it, and he's one of the best known in the industry, so why bother?
>>332414395
>has allegedly been practicing drawing for 10 years
>can't get paid for his work after all that
That's because your work is shit Dobson
>>332414395
Actually I get paid to draw things because I'm not an idiot.
>>332414562
You must not know much about music.
>music test
>art test
>etc.
Literally laughing out loud. If you're not some faggot from Romania trying to make it in the industry or some retard in America with no skills, all you need is a portfolio.
>>332414687
wow, great argument! ;^)
>>332414560
m8 you're destroying his world view, he might even kill himself upon realizing he's a cuck who's been taken on a ruse cruise for 10 years
>>332414560
Fuck off. I am close to getting hired. You go back to your McDonalds job you pieces of shit.
When you have taste as good as mine you have the right to criticize Jeremy Soule
Until then you're just a bunch of teenagers complaining it isn't shitty JRPG music
>>332412686
dat 6:47-7:25
It wouldn't be so bad if said companies didn't take those demos and then plagiarize them under the name of a cheaper artist.
I only ever worked on concept art for a company before signing a contract once and they ended up taking it and hiring someone cheaper, then literally copying it in the final release signed under a different name.
So, does freefag live in Portland or SanFran?
>>332414723
You certainly aren't refuting me
>>332414750
>>I am close to getting hired
>Implying
You're close to working for free again.
>>332414689
It's coming to coding as well with "assignments" that you do over a few days during the interview period.
>>332414774
>Debussy
>Beethoven
Safe picks. Boring.
>Arvo Pärt
Nice.
Soule is still a hack.
>>332414284
>pretending paid art tests don't exist
Even a whore does a better job at getting paid than you
>Soule thread
>noone is bringing up his work on DuS
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AxwCsV2nzTw
>>332414908
you didn't make an argument in the first place
>>332414778
generic or not it's fun to listen to
>>332414750
>I'm close to getting hired
Is that what you've been telling yourself for the past 10 years?
>>332414935
Wow, that's even worse, since code is so easy to literally copy and paste into a closed source project.
>>332414956
>Safe picks. Boring.
But what do you think of Steve Lehman, Vijay Iyer, Alexander Scriabin, and Gabriel Faure?
Certainly don't seem to have good enough taste if you only recognize Arvo Part.
>>332414935
As long as you get paid for it then it's fine.
Fuck, I mean, even the government inSwedentells us to never, ever work for free during tests or interviews.
>all these people saying EA
lol
>>332414525
>demand payment for an art test
Enjoy not getting any art tests.
>>332414560
You're right about the communication bit but wrong about "work for free"
Nobody pays for art tests. And you're stupid if you think things work like that. How about you get a sample of how the industry is like. It might prove hard seeing as you have to pull your head out of your own ass.
Look, at the end of the day, I worked my ass off for 2 weeks, had fun, learned some new things, impressed some people.
I'm not complaining about it, I'm movingon.
You on the other hand, are all bitching about standard, industry wide practise, that doesn't even affect you.
Suck a dick, underachiving monkeys. The day you'll work hard is the day the hell freezes over.
>>332415019
>you didn't make an argument in the first place
I mean the fact that you don't know anything.
Haven't shown yourself to be knowledgeable in any way
>>332414956
>Debussy
>Beethoven
>Boring
u w0t m8
I'm so fucking glad I can enjoy simple music like Xenoblade Chronicles X from Sawano and not be a bitter fag like you guys.
>>332415017
DS has a great OST.
>>332415069
not him but I love all of them nut IyerI don't know who Iyer is
>>332415119
You didn't impress anyone you god damn bootlicker
>>332415069
>listens only to classical music
>taste
Easy to spot the pleb.
Next you'll wave around Stockhausen like it means something.
>>332413192
>that Red Alert soundtrack
cream my ass everytime
>>332415151
you sure haven't either, so I don't get what your point is, it's not even relevant what my technical knowledge of music is
I know some music theory and dabble in composing (not very good at it, mind you)
does that like, satisfy your autism?
>>332413782
Microsoft is making money from Minecraft merchandise and "premium" skins. Minecraft 2 will eventually come out too and probably sell like hotcakes.
>>332415119
>>Enjoy not getting any art tests.
M8, I've never even fucking heard of art tests and I draw for a living, sometimes doing video game work. Is this some bullshit you've made up because you don't have a portfolio or can't get any work despite?
>>332415119
>Nobody pays for art tests.
And now we know you're full of shit. Riot of all companies pays for fucking art tests.
>>332415163
I wish I had shit taste
>>332415223
>listens only to classical music
HOLY SHIT
WOW
Yeah only to classical music aside from the obvious fucking Jazz artists.
>>332411274
>implying it's not Tim Schafer looking to spend the biggest part of his crowdfunding again
>>332413536I'll wait for 40 more minutes before I let it expire. This is my last post.
>>332415119
>Look, at the end of the day, I worked my ass off for 2 weeks, had fun, learned some new things, impressed some people.
>I'm not complaining about it, I'm movingon.
For 10 years.
>>332415119
>Enjoy not getting any art tests.
Enjoy not getting paid in 10 years.
Fuck sake, anon, we're trying to help you, shitposts and all. Don't work for free, demand payment for art tests. People are using you.
>The day you'll work hard is the day the hell freezes over.
And the day I do I get paid.
This thread is like a small oasis of /mu/ in a sea of /v/.And tbqh I can't tell the difference
>>332415246
I've studied music theory for several years and perform on a professional level, so I definitely know more than you about what noise vs music is, kid.
>Soule
haha nope take this shit hack out of here
>>332415297
>I only listen to classic and jazz.
I fucking knew it.
>>332415223
>lehman
>>332415369
what an embarrassing thing to post
>this one poorfag NEET who DESPITE 10 YEARS OF HARDWORK CAN'T LAND A JOB IN THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
>>332415402
t. im@s fan
>>332415448
Pretty sure he is trolling.
>>332411036
I also heard some good thing from a guy named kunty Condo? I'm not good at jap names
>>332415410
Nice try troll but his post said
>only listens to classical music
Which meant he totally missed the fact that I had Jazz artists on there. entry level ones.
Not falling for your b8
>>332415503
I hope he is.
>>332415448
Stay mad.
I'll be there in a few months, I allready have 1 guranteed position. I just had a chance to work in a nicer company.
>all this classical shit ITT
Now don't get me wrong, I fucking love when I hear it in-game, but you niggas actually listen to Bach and noise and shit on the reg?
Fuck that, give me some Iron Maiden, some Pantera, some Slayer.
>>332415545
>>I'll be there in a few months, I allready have 1 guranteed position. I just had a chance to work in a nicer company.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA KEEP DREAMING KEK THEY ALREADY HIRED A 10 YEAR OLD CHINK TO DO THE WORK FOR THEM FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>332414750
>work at macdonalds for 10 years
>during that time work way up to manager
>get paid over $200,000 over the course of 10 years
>before you've even earned a single cent
Gotta get that exposure tho rite m8?
Oh anon, by the way, I could do with some soothing music to help me relax, could you do me a free demo? maybe I'll hire you! Who knows?!
>>332413625
>Doing it for free for 10 years
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you've simply not gotten much, if any, work at all in the last 10 years. The only time it's reasonable to work for free is for something like a game jam, where everyone's just there for fun, and the work is cheap and quick to make.
I've been making free work for 7 or so years, now, myself, but that work has been almost entirely for myself and no one else - the majority of the things I made that weren't for a game jam were commissioned, and they were from people who specifically sought me out. With that in mind, I'm led to believe that you've been sitting on your rear, not actually looking for a job, for the majority of those 10 years.
>>332414403
I don't think occasionally working for free is a bad thing. Some of my commissions were direct results of my game jam work - that's work I simply wouldn't have gotten, otherwise.
>>332415545
Have you got that in writing?
>>332415601
>It's a metalhead post
I see the Soulefag is still trying to force this boring piece of shit composer on /v/ at every turn. Go back to learning music faggot no one cares about your shitty tastes.
>>332411303
YOKO SHIMOMURA IS THE BEST FUCK YOU
[piano intensifies]
>All these people getting salty over art tests.
Look, they sound shit but they are practical.
I knew someone once who was a great character modeller. Had an online fanbase as well, but was stuck up, slow to improve and overall slow.
She got art tested by an AAA studio. Got a simple task, slightly out of her character zone. She fucked up tremendously, delivered sub-par, unfinished work, terrible textureworke, worse design and horrible topology.
I knew another guy who got art tested for star citizen. He was brilliant, but he got fucked up because for some reason, he believed SC was going to be released for PS1.
Art tests are necessity to weed out that special kind of retardation. Every artist in the industry at some point in their career needs to do some art tests. Bitching just means you're not cut out for it.
>>332415545
I want to see the agreement on paper anon. You probably didn't read it. And you probably didn't even get a formal agreement.
>>332415119
>How about you get a sample of how the industry is like.
By working in itFor money
Smells like Poo in the Loo tactics, who may it be?
>>332415669
Yes I have not, since that 10 years I have spent learning and studying and getting better and figuring out what I want to do.
>>332414774
>no Guild Wars
AZEAZEAZEAZEAZEAZEAZEAZEAZEAZ2
He also composed the Assassin Creed games and The Adventures of Batman and Robin for the Genesis.
>>332415681
Acually, yes.
>>332415858
>>332415119
>enjoys taking it up the ass
>for free
Let me repeat this: you have worse standards than a whore. You're worse than fucking Indians in programming jobs because they at least get minimal pay. You're the reason free art tests exist in the first place. Anyone decent in the industry hates your guts for lowering overall standards. No matter what your fucking job is, unless it's charity work, you should NEVER EVER WORK FOR FREE. "Exposure and experience" isn't payment. "Exposure and experience" isn't bread on the table. If you don't think you can make it in the industry without being someone's bitch, then just fucking give up and go do something else. Preferably paid work.
>>332410147
thats very wonderful for you anon, but no one would agree to that contract. When a company like that comes to you and asks you to do it for free, there is no chance in hell they're gonna sign a contract that obligates them to pay unless they alter it to also include something like "all payments null and void if item in question is not used in final product" and wham, they've got you.
>>332415848
>I listen to non-game related music so that makes me a expert on what game music should be
GO BACK TO SUCKING SOULES DICK AND HIS GENERIC FLUTE AND STRING MUSIC FAGGOT
>>332415915
>>since that 10 years I have spent learning and studying and getting better and figuring out what I want to do.
NOBODY SPENDS 10 YEARS LEARNING, STUDYING AND GETTING BETTER!
WTF ANON YOU SUCK SO MUCH DICK HOLY SHIT! IN THOSE 10 YEARS YOU'VE WASTED, SOME CHINK FROM FUCKING PHILAPILINES HAS ALREADY MADE MILLIONS WORKING FOR RIOT!
>>332415991
You missed the spoiler part there cucko
>>332415926
oh I have it, just not added in my iTunes library
>>332416027
lol autismo, chill
>>332415915
Lol if you need to spend 10 years to get better, you probably suck massive ass anyway. Nobody's going to employ you.
>>332416012
I can't believe what kind of a fuzzy bitch you must be.
Do you go on job interviews, trash the room and yell that they are not paying you for the interview?
It's literally only 2 weeks of work that still belongs to me. If you get mad over having to do what you love and have a chance of getting a job, you're the one everyone around you actually hate.
>>332409440
Soule hasn't done a decent job since Total Annihilation.
>>332415545
After 10 years.
Don't forget that.
>>332415795
Nobody is complaining about art tests themselves, anon.
What everyone is complaining about is doing them for free.
Ok then, let's see.
>Spends 10 years trying his hardest to make it in the industry
>He does art tests for free
>Never once landed a job
>>332415975
Nice bants.
>>332416114
>>332416030
>implying being an accountant or a burger flipper is the same as being an artist
Everyone who is an artist spent propably 10 years getting good at it.
>>332416048
indie games, freelance and in house work are different things.
>>332416220
Honestly his denial that he's being taken advantage of is the most interesting thing. I mean there's a point in your life where you would have to get on your knees and start sucking but the fact that he's trying to label it as a positive experience and not something to push through and overcome is very interesting.
>>332411143
>i havent heard of this guy
>therefore literally who
fuck off back to your cave
I FOUND YOUR DRAWING ONLINE FOR FREE
>>332415795
Jeremy Soule has an impressive resume. You don't really need to test the guy, it's more a matter of whether he can make the kind of style you want.
>>332416164
>It's literally only 2 weeks
Which could be more than enough to screw you completely if you're not paid and still have to provide for yourself, somehow. If you've got someone else paying the bills, it may not seem like such a big deal, but if you're relying on yourself, losing out on two weeks of work could put you in an especially sore position.
>>332416183
You spend 9/12 years in a school to get a shitty job pushing carts in a supermarket parking lot.
Or even to qualify at an university
>just to spend another 3-5 years to study
this is how dumb you sound.
why would you even want him, he lost all his talent and now he's just a fucking hack.
he hasnt made good music since Oblivion and his best work was GW1
>>332412520
Few people can do creative work their whole life and keep creating interesting, non-repetitive stuff
>>332410147
>Is that legal? I'm not an artist but I'd protect myself with a contract like "You can only use this free sample if you end up hiring me for the project"
This is why you do a paid "art test" which is then basically commission work with a chance of getting hired for further work. They get to use your work and evaluate your further employment and you get paid and don't waste your time doing commission work for free.
>wow this guy is pretty good
>maybe I'll hire him
>oh wait he'll do it for free never mind
In any other industry ever, a restaurant, a mechanic, a builder, anything, can you imagine it?
>I'll need you to cook me a meal/fix my car/build me a conservatory for free so I can see if you're any good
>>332416293
>>Everyone who is an artist spent propably 10 years getting good at it.
YEAH BUT THEY WERE GETTING PAID UNLIKE YOU HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>332415975
>the Assassin Creed games
The music in those was good though. Until Jesper Kyd left that is.
>Jeremy Soule
>good
please, expecting a free demo is retarded but the guy's a literal has been
>>332416164
>It's literally only 2 weeks of work
>that I do for free
>every time they ask
>for 10 years
People might be making fun of you a bit, but they really have your best interest at heart.
Nobody works for free.
Take it from me, you do not create art for a possible employer for free.
>>332416102
The fact that even for a moment you held Soule on the same level as Bethoven makes me more mad than you can even imagine. YOU PICE OF SHIT. Now I'll now that whenever I''ll see this Soule dickriding thread again I will remember what kind of person makes them. I'm out
>this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE
Harlan Ellison is a complete cunt but he's absolutely right. Don't work for free or you're an idiot.
>>332416210
That is clearly paints for free.
>>332416396
Are you implying you skipped highschool while you were projecting that hard?
>>332416012
>You're the reason free art tests exist in the first place. Anyone decent in the industry hates your guts for lowering overall standards.
This so fucking much. I used to do free art tests/spec art when I was first starting out and I got screwed every time. I was hired on my current great job right now because the guy looked at my portfolio and gave me a (paid) test run for a few weeks and hired me on.
https://youtu.be/essNmNOrQto
>>332416164
Those 2 weeks are a privilege not every creative professional has.
>>332416220
I did my first drawing 10 years ago.
4 years ago I tried 3d.
I've spent 4 years learning design and modern workflows and engines.
I've been only paid for small commissions and whatever.
Been gotten some internships and large studios and lots of freelance for smaller ones.
I've not even have time to get a job since I've always been at school.
Now schools ending, I got an art test, another paid one, 1 job offer in writing and other large parties interested in me.
I'd say I've done far,far,far,far better than the avarage.
>>332416293
I'm getting paid to improve my skill while I work. They give me money. I don't even have to enjoy it and there's still cash at the end of the day.
>>332416164
>only two weeks of work
>for the 'chance' of getting a job
You know, in my industry, two weeks of work for the interns is around $1,800.00. They just did an interview.
>>332416396
WAIT WIAT WAIT, YOU'RE A FUCKING DROPOUT?!?!?!? HAHAHAHHAHA HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING FAILED AT LIFE
DROPOUT
SPENT 10 YEARS TRYING TO GET DRAW JOB
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>332416460
You're fucking retarded.
Jeremy Soule is a fucking hack. I remember when I tried GW2 - parts of the soundtrack sounded like he had just lifted them entirely from his NWN stuff.
>>332416667
Honestly at this point with his 10 years of (unpaid) experience, he should just draw furry porn because atleast it pays decently and it's actual money versus >forfree
>>332416629
>two weeks of work for the interns is around $1,800.00
>interns making nearly 40K a year
ill take "anon lies again, for $500 alex"
>>332416175
Fuck off dumbass. 1/10
>>332416698
Don't bother he makes these Soule threads every few days. There is no arguing with this guy. He thinks Soulse is the greatest composer in the industry ever.
>>332416164
Two weeks of pay is a helluva lot of money if you have no job, anon.
And no, you shouldn't get any pay for a interview because you're not actually doing any work for the company there.
If they do demand you work for free "as a test" then you kindly decline and ask for payment during the test. If they refuse, find another employer.
>>332416293
>Everyone who is an artist spent propably 10 years getting good at it.
No, not really. You don't have to be good to get commissioned work.
>Jeremy Soule
>Jesper Kyd
How not to get mixed up between these two individuals?
>>332416778
there is a difference between an artist's salary and that of e.g. a quant (or whatever he is) you know
>Composers that arent Frank Klepacki
dont care
>>332416857
Kyd can actually utilize a choir.
Its W.B games for mordor 2.
>hasn't had a hit in a long while
It's obvious it's Squeenix, part of his original employer.
>>332411362
Ancient Stones is pretty fucking comfy.
>>332416164
>Do you go on job interviews, trash the room and yell that they are not paying you for the interview?
I would if that interview lasted 2 weeks. What you did was basically free internship or free commission work. Both of which should not be done.
>If you get mad over having to do what you love and have a chance of getting a job, you're the one everyone around you actually hate.
You're trying to enter a rough and cutthroat industry. This kind of idealistic thinking is just gonna get you burned.
After all, it's an industry, you're expected to churn out art as a product, not as an expression of your fucking soul. People paying you don't give a shit if you love what you do and they only respect you if you put your fucking foot down.
Post that Jeremy Soule track that went "weee wooo wooo weee wooo wooo weee wooo wooo wooo wooo wooo"
>>332416907
The best soundtrack,Harkonnen, in Emperor: Batlle for Dune wasn't even made by him.
>>332409292
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess Ubisoft. This pretty much sounds like something they'd pull and they really haven't had a standout game in a long time.
>>332417078
so?
his best work was in RA1
but you were close
>>332416857
>elder scroll guy
>hitman guy
how hard is it?
>>332417078
RA2/YR and Retaliation are just as good as Harkonnen.
>>332417206
Nah his best work was on the Blade Runner adventure game.
>>332417206
>so?
I-I... I just wanted to mention it.
Jesper Kyd>>>Jeremy Soule
>Jeremy Soule will never compose something this magnificent and climatic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZzK_mI3WvA
SInce the nigga made the Icewind Dale soundtrack i'll side with him.
I still listen to it to this day, shit's too good.
>>332417348
jesper kyd is for teenagers who listen to electroswing and /mu/core
A friend on steam tried to convince me that Jeremy Soule was a better composer than John Williams.
Bethesdrones are delusional.
>>332416778
It doesn't seem that far fetched.
I've worked on a farm as a basic laborer and made $1500~ in two weeks.
Maybe it seems like a lot to someone who works for free, though
>>332417365
Inon Zur did a better job on the sequel
>>332417317
put your money where your mouth is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsASovig6OM
>>332416609
>I did my first drawing 10 years ago
This is a scary statement.
Either you're really young and are defending your poor business descisions while disregarding any advice
or
You started "trying to get on a professional drawing level" 10 years ago and count that learning period as a period where you could have been employed for drawing.
Either way you're being unreasonable.
>I've been only paid for small commissions and whatever
THAT'S WHAT ART TESTS ARE
>Been gotten some internships and large studios and lots of freelance for smaller ones.
>I've not even have time to get a job since I've always been at school.
Kinda contradict eachother.
But, taking it as truth, I very much hope your internship was paid for. Same for your freelance work. As they're work. And people get paid for work.
>Now schools ending, I got an art test, another paid one, 1 job offer in writing and other large parties interested in me.
>I'd say I've done far,far,far,far better than the avarage.
I'd say you're heavily overestimating yourself, especially since you're entering the 2D/3D art and design business.
You might not have had much competition in highschool, but you will now.
You will run into hobbyists that are better than you.
You will run into crazily talented people that'll outperform you in skill, technique and time any day of the week.
You will CONTANTLY have to prove yourself.
You will have to improve your craft for the rest of your life, at the highest pace you can muster.
Once again, taking 2 weeks on work that you won't get paid for is crazy.
Fresh out of highschool this might not be apparent yet, but this is your LIFE now.
>>332417436
Very few people are that stupid.
But Jeremy Soule is a good composer, absolutely.
This guy is overrated as fuck.
>>332417336
BETTER WATCH YOUR STEP, SENPAI
>>332417348
When the trumpets kick in it seems very military-like. Like a 30 year vet taking his last stand.
>>332410559
you serious?
morrowind and skyrim have the exact same fucking soundtrack
>>332417540
very few people know about william
even less know about soule.
>>332417598
except
they dont
>>332417540
He's only good because he copies Williams who is a good composer himself. But I guess you need some talent to make a copy too.
>>332417662
>very few people know about william
You're right, it's not like Star Wars is a popular movie or anything.
>>332416778
He's not entirely wrong. I interviewed for an IT internship that started at 35k a year.
>>332417662
>Very few people know about John Williams
Maybe in your basement. John Williams is probably the 2nd most famous movie composer of all time, after Hans Zimmer
I didn't enjoy the Skyrim OST as much as Oblivion and Morrowind to be honest. Still, it's a pretty good OST.
>free demo
Yeah, I think he really has no reason to do that.
>>332409292
Soule's soundtracks are bland and boring
It's generic crap any artist could do
Now David Wise he's a top tier composer
>>332417492
I'm rusty on IWD2 ost, i'll go catch a listen.
>>332409492
>hasn't had a hit in awhile
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/halo-5-reaches-400-million-in-sales-to-become-bigg/1100-6431980/
thats not including the rec pack stuff
while I agree 343 is shit tier (I actually like halo 5)
>>332417798
>>332417817
normies dont give a shit who write what music
even the lol so nerdy audience is a minority.
go out and ask a random person age 20-30 who compose for star war.
>oh hey guys this composer is so good he's the best here listen to all of this great music he's done I listen to it all the time it sure is amazing
>it's either gook chiptunes or ambient background shit
every single time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SF1yMNJ38k
Bioware
>>332417969
About half would know. 25% minimum (Which is still comparatively huge). You're just fucking sheltered.
>>332417537
Not him but I'll take you on good faith Anon, what kind of art have you done and what kind of clients did you work for?
>>332416609
>it's literally some kid that thinks he's got shit figured out
You're gonna have a bad time, especially since you're trying to enter a high work/low payment industry
>b-but I do it because I love it
And you do it for free. There's no reason to be a starving artist in this day and age
>>332417969
JOHN LENNON
>>332418113
>it's a western game has techno music episode
>>332418153
>about 50% would know
who jj abram and lucas are.
>>332418298
he doubles as a singer. composer dont get nearly that much attention.
>>332411506
>i'm ignorant, most people are ignorant, so talk about something ignorant people know about! fuck learning!
that's you
that's how you sound
>>332418212
Primarily an freelance illustrator.
(have worked for studio fulltime once, but there was a lot of downtime which I didn't like)
I'm hopefully not yet that far into my carreer, but so far I've done quite simple book-covers, to concept-art for a country-based game developer.
Both examples lead to very different works, and I can safely say none of it mirrors my actual style when I paint something for fun/myself.
I've had to learn how to adapt my work, pacing and quality to deliver accepted results.
I've come to the point that publishers and studios actually contact me for future work, so I have the liberty of accepting and declining jobs that I find more suitable to me.
The fact that I have to scavenge and fight for jobs a lot less now is honestly a blessing.
Went off on a tangent a bit, but I hope it paints a picture.
>>332409292
Wow what a fucking cunts.
>>332414275
>Have we already forgotten the glorious soundtrack that was TF2?
How long ago was Team Fortress 2 released again?
Actually what was the last game Valve developed (rather than co-opted)?
>>332419024
Probably TF2.
>>332418874
That sounds really interesting mate, I'm glad that you're finding work because a lot of the artists I know who go freelance either have it really well or really worry about the lack of job security.
If you don't mind expanding on it, how did it get to the point where people actually contact you for work rather than the other way around? I'm not in the art business but it interests me nonetheless.
>>332415545
Alrighty then, Dobson
>>332411057
If it was your music you'd think otherwise
>>332411025
Why would he have signed an NDA you moron?
He doesn't want to name and shame the company and potenially burn any ties in the future.
He's well within his right to call them out but i dont know if it would the wisest decision
>>332419520
if it was my music I'd be too busy snorting cocaine off of hookers in my big house to give a single fuck that a few teenagers were downloading my videogame soundtracks illegally
>>332411274
Ill believe this when dreamcast 2 comes out
>>332409292
He can only be talking about Shitendo
>>332411320
> people in the industry
> eclebs are more important
I wish you had to be 18yrs or older to post here
>>332410978
Fear of being blacklisted. If you haven't noticed the industry is very hostile unless you have friends in the right place.
>>332417493
>that wah-wah kinda sound that starts at 4:00
I hear this same shit in a lot of places, like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dua2Oqpd8h0
Do they get all their samples from the same place or something?
>>332419024
>Actually what was the last game Valve developed (rather than co-opted)?
tf2
portal 2
dota2
in that order
Paul Romero>Jeremy Soule
