I mean, I know it's the age of the internet and all that but fucking just look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apu4ML9Wto
there's so many fucking secrets around every corner, and it saddens me that modern games rarely have maybe 1 or 2.
what games should i play that are filled with secrets /v/?
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>>332393856
people break into the game's files all the time
just look at MK9 when some guy cracked the demo and leaked CSZ.
They revealed every single character in MKX.
there are secrets just as much as there used to be. it's just that they're all spoiled to the point that nobody sees them as secrets anymore.
>>332395181
I mean yeah I know secrets are bound to be exposed sure, but character secrets are a little different from secrets discovered through say, exploring the game world.
There's a hidden sidequest in FF9
it was only discovered by 2013
Because games are linear now
Because games arent games anymore
>>332395181
This
Like in binding of Issac with the lost character. It was supposed to be this huge ARG thing where you pieced together hints on the sequence of deaths to unlock him. But people just data mined it day 1 and didnt even do the puzzle. It's so bad that when he did something similar for afterbirth with the greed character he forced people to do the ARG and only patched the character into the game after it was solved
>alot
>>332395473
>not available on PC
>>332395181
>>332395537
>available on PC
PCucks ruins everything because they hate fun
>>332393856
because secrets are more often than not some gimmicky shit that serve absolutely no purpose but for the dev to be snob little shit.
i can make invisible platform. item that only spawn if you backtrack, do thing in a rigid, counter productive order, hide them behind illusion, puzzles that take you out of the game... too.
they are the whole selling point of the failed adventure genre.
Because secrets require work, and work costs money. If it costs money, the question is "does the game still work if we cut it?" If the answer is yes, it´s more than likely gonna get cut. Usually devs don´t try to make a game awesome, they try to make it (look) good enough to sell well with least effort to make the most profit possible.
And if devs try to make secrets... refer to >>332395181
Also the internet is a bit responsible, because when people get a bit stuck in a game, they´d just google the solution rather than trying to solve it themselves. A friend of mine played through dark souls from the very beginning to the end strictly after some walkthrough.
Video games are the most experimental art form or fiction medium.
With only one, big downside: business and money. It's extremely more evident compared to films, music, books, etc..
Post /secrets/
I prefer when a game puts all its content out in the open.
>>332396036
Is the secret a Russian Animus because I don't play much Ass Creed
>>332396128
Spooky giant squid
>>332396196
I don't see it.
Guys guys
What if
There's a secret level/event/whatever
But only a random sliver of user downloads get to have it
So in about 1/50 users would have the secret and since it's sort of irregular in its appearance it will cause doubt in the community with some thinking that they modded in the secret somehow
It should theoretically decreases the chances of the secret getting datamined because there's less chances that a leet haxor would find the related codes
Bonus points if the game itself is advertised as easy to mod, and some copies would be potentially very creepy and unsettling
Would something like the pendant in Dark Souls count as a secret since it was bullshit?
>>332395537
To be fair, the autists that play that game were pretty close to finding out anyway, like a day or two away.
Ed wanted it to last for at least a year. Too bad we don't live in the 90s anymore where all a games secrets were found by your mates on the playground or in a cheats magazine.
>>332396036
>ass creed 1 to brohood have gylph puzzle to make the games more interesting
>completely removed it in revelations
forwhatpurpose.jpg
>>332396395
there's a trick to see it
>>332396404
that would technically be witholding content from some users.
that would end badly and quickly when it is discovered.
>>332393856
They do it's just the internet exists to tell you where they all are and you have no self-control and seek out ways to uncover all the secrets.
>>332396395
>>332396478
whoops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsnzplkHkiY
Because faggots datamine all secrets an ruin it for everyone. That's why all games should be 100% cloud based, even single player ones.
>>332396404
Somebody would release the hash and compare
>>332395707
why do you make such poor quality bait posts?
ff9 has been emulatable for a very long time and even has an official pc release
.. just why? why are you so cancerous? what benefit does it offer? are you insane?
>>332396404
developers should just not care if the secret is shared on the internet. Not everyone goes on the internet to look for secrets before they finish the game. IF the insufferable cunts that do it ruin their experiences then complain let us laugh at them for being dumb cunts.
>>332393856
>Post /secrets/
The Talos Principle had shitloads of secret stuffThat creepy as fuck face with the rocks making jokes in the second messenger world spooked me hard
>>332396404
so just like bf4 secret puzzle where every player gets different sets of code?
>>332395537
STEAK
ONE BITE
>>332395473
Wasn't that pretty common knowledge to the Japs?
>>332396707
It was in fucking strategy guides iirc
neogaf is just retarded as always
>>332393856
>modern games rarely have maybe 1 or 2.
Bullshit modern games now days have tons more secrets than everYou just haven't found them
>>332396815
yeah maybe I just haven't played them. any one's you'd recommend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuuzmOXL1bc
>Tfw most secrets put in games are just too fucking hard for you to ever figure out on your own
>>332393856
>>332393856
3 years and this mystery still isn't solved.
>>332393856
Why discover something when you can pay for it?
>>332397403
ALMOST THERE GUYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxLn6w4Z-Sw
>>332397214
what the fuck that is some crazy horse shit right there.
>>332393856
Bloodborne was a recent game with some good secrets.
>if you roll onto this small platform onto another small platform in this optional area's fall maze, you find an area with important story significance as well as several rare items
>if you take this item to a vague location, you unlock a faraway castle to explore, which hides another secret area and weapon if you wear the crown of the boss
>if you find the lever to drop a giant enemy to the ground, stand directly in front of one of its giant eyes, and perform a motion you obtain at the end of another relatively secret area for three minutes straight, you get a powerful farming tool
>>332396697
What game is this?
>>332397403
I dont think there IS a secret.
>>332397403
>Implying there is any solution
The best mysteries are those that have no answers, only hints.
PT was solved within days, you think the thousands of collective sleuths minds of the internet would not be able to solve something like this in 3 years?
Making a hard riddle takes considerably more time to make than to solve, with the three years and millions of man-hours spent on pondering on it this must have been devised by the top-intellectuals of the 19th century then.
>>332398351
Environmental Station Alpha
>>332398248
these are not good secrets, they are obscure.
There is no logic or indication behind it for the player to follow, only coincidence that someday someone will fullfill a specific set of conditions to discover it, at which point the knowledge spreads.
This practice is okay though, it leads to awesome moments, but really only for a handful of people who stumble over it by chance.
>>332397214
That's pretty cool, and probably took quite a while to figure it out completely
>>332398680
thanks man
Is it any good?
>>332396036
Only decent ones in recent times was in Arkham Asylum and City.
>>332399158
If you like metroidvanias (or games like that), it's pretty great. Liked it better than Axiom Verge, myself. Whole lotta secrets too. In fact, a good chunk of the game is a series of secret, La-Mulana-esque puzzles. That stuff is optional, mostly post-game content, though.
>>332400006
>La-Mulana-esque puzzles
I think I'll pass.
>>332400073
They're nowhere near as bullshit as LM's could be. You can actually pretty reasonably solve them without looking up guides and such.
>>332395712
Tell that to Zacks death scene. Those bastards hid the most important plot point
>>332396554
Try to reverse engineer a psx game
>>332393856
Valdis Story
>>332393856
Is the frog okay??
data mining and internet
big shame imo
Well there are the stats that most players dont even finish a game, let alone find secrets. There was that bethesda thing where they found most players only play the first few hours, so they went ahead and chucked a power armour in that time span so as to please people.
Gaming is just becoming too casual, or obscure like that BF4 easter egg posted.
Developers think it's a bad idea to work on areas of the game that only 5~10% of players will discover when they can spend man hours on making things everyone who plays will see.
Blame focus groups.
Warren Spector mentioned it in a deus ex interview; when the focus groups played liberty island only %20 used the vents. So why make something only 1/5 of all people who play will see?
They were of course smarter than that, and did it anyway, because the game is about choices and exploration, but big companies managing big teams and big budgets are much less lenient about this shit.
>>332395537
Which is funny, because he didn't actually add the ARG either and it was solved in a night when he finally did. Was just a cover for him literally not finishing.
>>332402202
>Developers think it's a bad idea to work on areas of the game that only 5~10% of players will discover when they can spend man hours on making things everyone who PAYS will see.
ftfy
things that used to be unlocks or secrets in games are now cut and sold as DLC
>>332402202
Crouch walking through those vents takes an inordinate amount of time, I wouldn't look down on a play tester for choosing to backing out.
