Post your non-firearm weaponfu
Who the hell do you think I am?
Fuck your shields
>>332389478
>philips head
>not flat head
faggot
>>332389348
Poleaxe.
haters gon hate
>>332389665
I am an orthodox Christian though...
And wounds are much harder to close from a cross head screwdriver.
Crouch stabs with this are ridiculous.
Pole-axe's get an honorary mention.
>>332389804
>>332389620
>>332389514
>>332389348
Nice taste
>>332389348
Using her right now familia
>>332389348
Non-firearm here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfOyE5b2jh4
You just posted him, friend.
>>332389948
I understand you
I am my own weaponfu
>>332390353
That girl looks cute.
My top five (nonspecific) weapons are:
>Claymores
>Halberds
>Flamberges
>Flanged maces
>Spiked flails
I like regular swords
>>332389348
That was the only class of weapon I felt was missing in Dark Souls.
>>332389348
>The nice thing about weapons… they never betray you
>>332389913
Right? people always sperg out "it was never used in actual warfare"
No shit you autist, the average fight was like 10% specially trained units 90% cannon fodder with spears. That doesn't mean I cant like thrusting swords for their raw style.
>>332390353
Speaking of dark souls
>stylish design
>swing has weight to it
>not the balder shitter sword
It's not the best weapon in the game but man does it have style.
>>332389979
My favourite
>>332392831
balder swag sword uber alles
>>332392906not even disagreeing, I just wanted something different after including it in most builds and seeing it on every other unoriginal nigger in pvp
>>332389974
That guy looks pretty robust
Step aside with all your nonsense weapons
>no tricks
>no bullshit
>just me, you, and this small, easily wielded piece of steel that's about to taste raw liver
>>332389348
Friendship.
Today I will remind them
>>332393343
god damn look at that english motherfucker
how does he contain the swagger
>>332392906
>just tried farming the BSS for 40 minutes
>still not a single drop for it
>>332393343
>one of Scotland's largest and best armed armies of the medieval and renaissance periods, trained in continental warfare
>get BTFO by some fences and englishmen with farming tools
>the king and a huge number of nobles get killed
top kek
>>332390065
>cross head
>not using an elegant weapon for a more civilized age
>>332390065
middle guy's barfing. Must be hard partying like a saint
I like my waifus bouncy
>>332390968
Are you a peasant?
Chop chop motherfucker.
He never got a discernible appearance, so I'm posting the mod.
Fucking good companion weapon though.
>Well, since you asked, I would like to register a complaint. I want to kill a dragon. Right now. Go find one and kill it. That would be SO cool.
>I don't know what you were excepting, but as a sword, I'm pretty one-dimensional in what I want.
Great Falchion
>>332396783
>everything in this picture
NGHHGHHH
I know that they're the "nothing personell" of thrown weapons, but I'm still a sucker for them. Bonus points if they're silent and one hit kill.
Glaives
Every glaive
Just give me a fucking stick with a pointy bit at the top and i'm happy tho.
>>332397278
What
>>332390320
it sure helpd mexicans against 200 spaniards
kek
bonk
>>332395073
Since this guy took my top pick I'll go with the Khopesh.
>>332398810
Actually, there were 3000 Spaniards, and the Spanish got their but kicked till they retreated back to territory controlled by other nations that fucking hated the aztecs, was able to band together an army of 200,000 natives from said other nations, and re-storm the aztec captial, by which time smallpox was doing a lot of their work for them
>>332392831
I always use the silver knight swag sword because not only does it look awesome, it's also a weapon that's like 1% more powerful than the balder sword which is half the weight, and people know this. It's like fighting with ankle weights on.
>>332398818
excellent post
Sometimes, simple is best.
The standard longsword will always be my weaponfu.
TOP TIER
>Maul
>Estoc
>Flanged Mace
>Spear
GOOD TIER
>Halberd
>Pike
>Horseman's Pick
>War Rapier
OKAY TIER
>War Axe
>Smallsword
>Quarterstaff
>Morning Star
>Axe
>Broadsword
>Claymore
>Glaive
>War Fork
>Club
BAD TIER
>Literally any throwing weapon (Francisca, Shurikens, Throwing Knives, Darts, Chakrams)
>Zweihander
>Falchion
>Messer
>Bulb Mace
SHIT TIER
>War Scythe
>War Sickles (Kama, Kusarigama)
>Katana
>Whips
>Flail
>Nunchucks
>Tonfa
>Claw weapons (Katar, Bagh naka)
A sword that acts as any other weapon. It's fucking perfect.
>>332393464
MY FUCKING NIGGA
>>332400218
Except it looks retarded.
>>332392737
Mi hermano oscuro.
>>332399626
No, they were a little more than 300
But you are right with the native part
They had already won the war when Montezuma II let Cortès enter Tehnochtitlan though.
Montezuma trusted him, so did the natives. When he attacked, the natives accepted him and let him conquer.
And then smallpox, common cold and other diseases did their job.
And the survivors got the encomienda treatment.
If only the natives managed to kill Malinche and Geronimo Cortès wouldn't have had been able to communicate with the natives and would have probably lost.
Shame for them, Tenochtitlan seemed such an awesome city by their description.
>>332398818
My brethren.
>>332399913
>implying katanas aren't always OP as fuck
>>332390224
This.
Any kind of battle axe.
Or spears.
>>332400440
I meant 1300, sorry.
They were 300 at first, the other infantries came later
Knowing me, I'd probably miss each shot, but I still thing throwing knives are pretty fucking cool
>>332400291
That doesn't matter when I'm stabbing you with a mace
>>332399913
>axe
>under any kind of sword
>>332397278
>not choosing sprinkles and M&M's
>>332400440
>Tenochtitlan seemed such an awesome city by their description.
I know, the fact it got razed and leveled honestly pisses me off more then the library of Alexandria burning. It's the number 1# thing from history I wish I could see.
Imagine what would have happened if they didn't loss, or cortez's intial plan of making them a vassal state went through?
rip child
>>332400626
They are not, and this has been proven since forever.
>samurai armor cant stop regular european armors
>katanas cant stop a slash from pic related without any damage because they rely on the techniques of the samurai
>asians are manlets
they are inferior, but they have some cool ancient tech on them, nothing more.
>>332401321
Fuck yes, didn't expect someone to post this.
>>332401202
I really wonder
That is one alternate history scenario i'd really love to see somewhere.
I highly doubt the aztecs would have lived for long anyway, with all the rebellions going on and such, but that part of america could have done much more without spain stealing gold and slaves.
I gotta say i like the Incas much more than the Aztecs though. That empire was massive and ruled in a really smart way, much smarte than how the aztecs managed it.
Also Atahualpa was a cool ass guy, he was so cool and smart he made firends with the conquistadores that captured him becayse they respected him that much.
Also he was a smug cunt but that's another story.
>>332397095
>>332400893
XIII had excellent throwing knives.
A hunter must hunt.
>>332401373
>armor stop armors
*Arrows
>no pic
Here.
>>332399913
>mauls
>>332394424
good blaster feels good by your side
>literally cannot lose
>>332399913
>no Langmesser
Literally shit tier list.
>zweihander in bad tier
>bulb mace in shit bad while flanged in top
Its literally like you have no clue at all.
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>>332402095
Switche Axe master race.
>>332389348
>>332398818
Love it
>>332393464
My brutha from another mother
>>332402282
STOP THROWING CHAIRS
>>332397261
ugliest polearm ever
>>332402282
CÊ TÁ LOCA?
>>332404125
>>332402282
TU TÁ LOCA NÉ*
>>332403538
There is no escape from Sean Paul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MoVRgguH_4
>>332390548
This is some James Bond shit right here.
>>332390548
>arrow
>>332404462
For what purpose?
>>332405157
To break.
>8 damage with AP, can find it before you even go in the first dungeon
Maybe not the best weapon of the game, but it will always be the best in my heart
>>332399913
>Messer
>Bad tier
Kill thyself
>>332389348
EMF Blades
>>332401093
I remember it being gummy bears or was that his opponent?
>>332399913
>katar
>claw weapon
kek
It's a push-knife
>>332389478
Pretty patrician
>>332401373
he means vidya you tard
>>332406445
>western games praise the katana over any other eurpean sword
You are right, not even mention the nips.
>>332389348
Bastard sword.
An actual bastard sword, not that Dark Souls one.
>>332392749
It was used in actual warfare, though. Northern cavalry used them fairly frequently in the 17th century, for instance in the 30 Years War.
The holy weapon
>>332389913
rapier is basicaly katana but 300% better and not gay
>>332408582
>weapon made mostly for stabbing
>same as a weapon made mostly for cutting
>>332408582
except no you retard
Do you guise like my helmet?
>>332408934
You gonna conquer some pussy tonight?
>>332408668
>>332408706
>made for daily carry instead of warfare
>can actually do something against armor
>little lighter
>doesn't break like shit japanese iron katana
>not weeb therefore not gay
>>332390548
this doesn't look lethal
i guess you could hunt squirrels with it
>>332409164
>can actually do something against armor
Hahaha, no.
>>332409054
No. Wenches won't understand this thing. They never will. I will be playing some MB Warband though.
>>332401482
>Also Atahualpa was a cool ass guy, he was so cool and smart he made firends with the conquistadores that captured him becayse they respected him that much.
Can you elaborate on that?
>>332409267bussy then?
>>332402282
I'M MAD
Play solos, shoot out bats and ligthning
>>332409260
Look at the exposed bits along the arms and legs.
That's why European blades are built for thrusting, to pierce the weak points in armor.
>>332409354sauce?
>>332394195
b-but... we have free education!
>>332409260
at least more than your faggot ass katana
>>332409164
>A thrusting sword is basically a cutting sword
stop posting anytime
>>332409454
You don't pierce the armor, you poke at the unarmored spots. Full plate armor wasn't used in the same period as rapiers anyway.
>>332409567
If you could read you'd know that all I said is that the rapier and the katana are completely different swords.
>>332401482
>>332401202
Tenochtitlan was in a rut, lacking technological progression because of the Gestapo-like merchant spies going around everywhere at night looking for any excuse to mark someone for sacrifice, and because the Aztecs were so ridiculously dominant they had little reason to compete. If no other countries had intervened, it would likely still be the same today.
I like pile bunkers.
They're the most impractical mech weapon next giant drills.
>>332409643
>I'm a faggot and I missed the point but I don't miss my anal virginity
>>332409792
>I'm a faggot and don't understand that different weapons have different use
>>332409454
and that's why people used half-swording, not fucking rapiers
also, at the height of rapier use people used brigandines at best
>>332402282
>britain weapon sweep
>>332409772
>because of the Gestapo-like merchant spies going around everywhere at night looking for any excuse to mark someone for sacrifice
I'd like to hear more about this
>ctrl+f Katana
>no results
I am pleased by this.
>>332409475
Not that anon, buthttp://imgur.com/a/EWujM
>>332410213
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pochteca
In order to keep up the flow of sacrifices, the Aztecs needed an excuse to get live victims. The travelling merchant class made great spies and they would stir up dissent in the subject capitals around Tenochtitlan to incite war, then the Aztecs would come in, crush the rebels, and take survivors as sacrifices.
source: I readHorrible Historiesas a kid so this just might not be 100% accurate, although it was also supplemented by pic related
Find a better looking set of equipmentYou can't
>>332410675
>>332410213
here's a slightly less iffy source
http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/aztefacts/mice-aztec-spies
>The ‘mice’ were formal spies, trained to dress and speak like natives of the target community, blending in wherever possible, constantly on the lookout for military intelligence of all kinds, including possible traitors who could be bribed to act as local informants. The disguised merchants, on the other hand, were a special class of trader-spy, who ‘began as ordinary travellers who were obliged to disguise themselves as natives when entering enemy territories in search of rare goods... the gossip of the markeplaces and the network of commercial contacts yielded vital information to the trader-spies’ (Richard Townsend).
The missions of both these specialist groups were decidedly dangerous ‘...for the people of the [foreign] cities were on their guard. In a country made up of little separate divisions in which everybody was known by his neighbours and in which costume, language and customs differed from one place to another, it was difficult to pass unnoticed; and the detected spy was put to death at once, together with his accomplices... [And some sources say served up with chili sauce!]
>>332410862
Looks comfy
mace
Mace
MACE!
>>332392117
>filename
nigga thats warhammer fantasy art
>>332390320
nice macana there, amigo
MY AXE IS THIRSTY!
>>332410862
looks like a hardcore chef
stab
>>332398818
bonk indeed
>>332411581
that's a retarded bonk
Not even a weeb. It's a toss up between this and a flail
>>332389514
big daddy
Hate all you want, spinning and shredding everything that touches you is glorious.
>>332412000
khergits get this in mountain blade multiplayer
weapon is sick
I fucking love tomahawks.Only reason I enjoyed AC3 more than most.
>>332411306
The best chefs
Move over, motherfuckers.
Luckiest weapon coming through.
good luck getting close plebs
Rhodoks everywhere
>>332389979
Fuck yeah, devine crusader time purge all of the filthy elf trash
>>332412780
*teleports behind you*
>>332412425
Tomohawk mainhand ninja-to inverted off hand is my irl weaponfu. One of the best combinations I've come across in martial arts.
>>332412780.
>only one shot
https://youtu.be/r1OmkLrqIVw
Why are flails so underused? Is it the physics?
I hope they count
You are supposed to use them with firearms
>>332412892
first they shoot you with the crossbows then they bring out tower shields and picks
reeeeeeeeeee
>>332389620
That thing looks super heavy
>>332413283
>WE LOVE TO HIDE
>>332412519
I see he made some fresh removed kebab
>>332413176
They came really late
Gunpowder was found more useful and even more when rifling was made
>>332390353
>That
>Bastard sword
There's a reason it's referred to as a "hand-and-a-half" sword.
That's just a two-hander
Saved me more times than I could count
>>332409773
Nothing more manly than penetrating people with your long hard rod
>this thread
>>332409734
>full plate armor wasn't used in the same period as rapiers anyway
>>332413397
>Historically, the guandao, for the most part, was not actually intended for field use, but was instead used as a tool to test the strength of those who wished to become military officers: weapons of various weights were made, the test composed simply of performing various required maneuvers using such weapons. During the Qing dynasty some extraordinarily heavy versions of guandao were made for this purpose: a candidate had to be able to wield a weapon weighing 80, 100, or 120 jin (48, 60 or 72 kg, using the modern value for 1 jin = approximately .6 kg), with weapons of each weight being successively higher grades in the exam, the passage of which led to appointment as military officers of various ranks based on the grade. The heaviest known "testing guandao", which resides in a museum at Shanhaiguan, weighs 83 kilograms.
Shiet 83kg
>>332409773
I duno , makes sense as a weapon to me. Maybe not in every situation, but what if they have thick armor and are trapped or knocked down, that shit would wreck em.
>>332413751
>took up Kenjutsu because all the HEMA and fencing clubs around here sucked ass and were basically just neckbeards playing with sticks
>trainer has done all kinds of shit when it comes to melee weapons, switches between them for sparring when he's bored
>tfw he picks the rapier
I fucking hate them so much, overpowered pieces of shit reeeeee
>>332389348
Flails are actually considered peasant weapons and we have not a single example of flails being used in comba.t
>>332392646
Getting this sword on the first playthrough is literally the best thing ever
any improvised stabbing weapon is the most fun melee weapon, prove me wrong.
Straight wushu
This will hopefully arrive this week.
She's so beautiful
>>332414257
But in that case you could just use a hammer.
fuck you OP, I post what I want and this weapon was the shit
>>332389514
You gonna pierce the heavens with that?
>>332414378
All hail the glorious rapier master race
>>332414594
>Deepeeka
>>332413850
Rapiers were made in Gunpowder era
Full plate armor was pretty unnecesary by then and were used mostly on the chest
>>332414530
depends the context and if anyone using it is skilled enough to stealth insta kill with it
>>332410196
i dont get it, why would you post a hunk of raw iron in a weapons thread?
rapiers were like the glock 17s of the olden times
>>332414863
I know right. But the construction and materials seemed to be alright.
>>332414919
Instakills are overrated, the best kind is a silent weapon that takes multiple hits to kill, but you can stab several times in quick succession, so you can Oz them.
>>332414848
that looks awfully short for a rapier
will never not like the look of these goddamn things.
Sword n Board, any videogame.
>>332415264
'cuz big dik duh'
There's only one weapon that I give a shit about
>>332415379
why is michelangelo from tmnt using a sword here
>>332393670
>started a character for the express purpose of helping a friend through his first playthrough
>two BSS drops before the Gargoyles are even dead
Pretty much half the reason I played Blood Rayne.
>>332415396
Stop posting hunks of iron, anon.
>Get DLC after finishing nightmare of Mensis
>Pick up this weapon
>love it so much that I instantly upgrade it to +10
>>332406084
Punching daggers are my jam
>>332415796
P I Z Z A B O Y S
>>332415164
It will probably be very blade heavy. Deepeeka's roman stuff are liked by re-enactment people though
For like $90 more you could have gotten a hanwei tinker. The tinker line of swords are some of the best swords in that price point. Ronin katana has a line of euro swords that are also very good for a similar price point
>>332415396
I always prefered his golden age sword to Dragonslayer which looks like shit.
pretty much... also has a girls name...
>>332415796
its a nice yo-yo you have there m8
>>332415829
now this is my jam
>>332399913
These tiers are nonsense.
So is debating which weapon is best in an objective, absolute sense.
It always depends on the period, what strategies, weapons and armour were deployed, and who you are fighting.
Mauls, Estoc and Flanged Mace are completely unnecessary when fighting badly armoured opponents, like warriors in the early Middle Ages.
You know why Poleaxes where so great in the Rennaissance period? Because people wore different odd end pieces of armour and weaponry you could hook on to. It gives you good crowd control. If you're got mostly unarmoured dudes a spear is just fine to kill them. Better range, better speed, better usage in formation.
Franciscas aren't bad weapons either, just to point it out. They're not there to make shields useless or harm people. Their purpose is to disrupt the enemy lines. Have you ever thrown a Francisca? Those fuckers bounce up and down all over the place once thrown. Imagine crashing into lines of opponents and throwing annoying bouncing axes into their lines, putting them off guard. Must have been a massacre.
Rapier's are also useless in the battlefield. They're highly specialised dueling weapons.
It all relies on context, people.
>>332406185
getting hit by one of these sure is no fun
>>332411290
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
>HEMA autist reject tier
>>332399913
(You)
>>332415738
I'm sorry, what was that?
>>332415281
>Teeth
RUINED
>>332414470
I feel like the momentum of the ball on a chain would inconvenience the wielder more than it would harm the target. They look cool as fuck though.
>>332415880
its a throwing hatchet, a classical francisca
>>332415994
What's this again? That's not a sword, more like a raw hunk of iron
>>332415871
I'll keep that in mind for the future. My father forges knives so he might be able to do something for the blade, if necessary.
>>332414894
Dark Souls has rapiers but no guns checkmate historyfags
>>332415994
That ain't a sword, it's too thick, more like a heap of raw iron
>>332415994
>>332416134
Looks like an oversized version of a five-fingered Venician dagger.
They were most likely not used for combat. They were worn by civilians to show off artwork on the fat body just over the hilt.
>>332411132
Why did you weld a chunk of metal to you aluminum baseball bat?
>>332415872He had like three different swords throughout the Golden Age, but whatevermy nigga
>>332416372
>that filename
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdY7NMWhLc
everyfucking time
>>332416225
Do you not understand the reference?
>>332416135
Probably not
4.5mm base that increases to 4.6mm at the tip
It should be thicker at the base and much thinner at the tip.
The tinker is 5.3-1.3, which would be much better to swing around
>>332416372
my, what big boobies you have
goldbrand is life
>>332416134
>>332416212Anyone have a screencap of that one panel from that one Schierke doujin? You know the one
>>332416225
Chill, dawg
>>332415693
I think I know the other half.It was the slow-mo cartwheels while dual wielding MP40s and mowing down hordes of nazis, wasn't it?
>>332409269
Many of the native tribes and empires welcomed the europeans with open arms only to be stabbed right through the chest as they marched up. Ask the Shohone and the Aztecs how nice the "white male" was.
In the case of Atahualpa he had just finished executing his brother for his half of the empire when the Spanish showed up. He welcomed them instead of fighting with them because they had just finished fighting. Spanish captured him and held him for ransom but the people still held fast to belief that the spaniards were their friends. Why? Because that'd what Atahualpa told them. He knew any resistance would mean the end for his people.
So the Spanish did what they did best. Rape, pillage, and slap a cross on the nearest hut.
>>332416791
Right. What if material is taken away on the sides of the fuller when going nearer to the tip? It would make it less heavy atleast.
>The Dragonslayer of axe weapons.
Why are blunt / crushing weapons so satifying?
>>332389348
Never that much of a dex-fag, but goddamn this was the only weapon I could use to kill Lud & Zallen in SotFS.
>>332389348
It comes with the pupper sif
>>332406185
What are the black tiles? Stone?
>>332417428
obsidian
yep they were literally nothing personnels creating their OC swords out of lava
>>332417234
Jubilant as fuck
>>332389616
This guy gets it. Pile Bunkers all day.
>>332416872
So tired of the civilians and randoms gloating over Guts' sword. Half the pages are dedicated to big open, surprised mouths.
>>332399197
>Who's there?
Best FNV melee weapon.
>>332398818
Weren't those just used to kill over armored knights who had been dismounted and could not get up because of armors weight? Not really practical for combat
>>332414594
>CultOfAthena
I bought one of their swords, too. Scabbard was a flimsy, floppy leather waterskin and the sword is blunt as a butterknife on the sides.
Pretty sword though, which I guess was the point.
>>332417082
It would, though a better idea might be to round off the diamond cross section after the fuller ends to make it like a lenticular cross section like on this
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=ANS9&name=Albion+Hospitaller+Sword
But I'd at least try swinging it around a bit to see how it feels for you before you get it changed.
>>332416372
Infiltration mission sword best sword.
Tournament sword being close 2nd.
>>332389979
Nothing is as satisfying as a good hit with a flanged mace.
>>332414470
I think the huge spiked ball types were fantasy but there are some depictions of flails in history. Mostly the flail with a long shaft and the military flail with more than one chain and small weights.
>>332416872
Right here
>>332417556
To be fair, you'd likely have the same reaction if you saw some crazy motherfucker swinging around a sword that's as big as him.
>>332392117
Halberd a best and most badass.
estocs are neat.
>>332416946
At least in the case of the Aztecs, some of that may have been bad translation. When the Aztec diplomatic delegation offered Cortez their empire, it was entirely symbolic, much like a key to the city. Also doesn't help that Aztec language uses the same terms to refer to gods and to mundane, but weird things.
>>332390353
> That sword
> one handed
Only Guts
>>332417630
And also give to inexperienced soldiers who were picked off the street because it's so easy to use.
>Bonk on the head to knock them down or stun them
>Turn it around and drive the spiked end through their head
>>332417998
>you'd likely have the same reaction
I guarantee I would but it's really boring to see Guts' ego getting stroked every page.
>>332417765
Alright. Thanks for the advice. I'll have to see how it performs (like how it generally _feels_ since I have no experience) when I get it.
>>332417630
they're for armored men to kill other armored men, mostly on horse-back. and no, battlefield armor isn't so heavy that you can't get up if you fall
>>332417630
>25 kg is too heavy to get up
lmao kill yourself
>>332418110
Yeah, I agree, same goes for hearing "IT'S TOO BIG TO BE A SWORD, BUT IT'S A SWORD," but it makes sense that they'd have that reaction.
>>332389979
>Smiting evil and sinners
Is there no better feeling
>>332396783
The ACL is bad ass
I want to do that so badly but it's expensive as hell
Trident Rapier
>>332409567
Except the Katana was designed for exactly this >>332409454 but with Japanese style armour.
>>332417630
>couldn't get up because of armor's weight
You might be actually retarded
>>332418059
that's not how it went fucking underage retard
>>332419364
well, now I know what sword to spam those Man at Arms guys for.
>>332418372
> Swinging that thing on horseback
LOL
>>332418483
>>332418372
>>332419613
Renaissance armor is not medieval armor. Dismounting a heavy armored knight would ultimately lead to his capture or death. A slow, unwieldy weapon like a war hammer would only be useful against such an over armored opponent that had been dismounted.
>>332396783
>ouch guy of the day
What did he mean by this?
>>332420630
>>332417630
Armour is not so heavy you can't get up, and those picks are not heavy, but they have more weight at the end than a sword.
>>332421007
ough man of the day
>>332420630
wow so slow and unwieldy
real life warhammers weren't fucking fantasy RPG mallets you retard
>Golfswinging Dex fags of cliffs in Huntsmans Copse
There's nothing like it.
>>332421796
that blade is all fucked up and it's obvious the user was a fucktard who didn't maintain it 1/10
>>332421018
>>332421137
> not so heavy that they could not get up
Depends on the armor. The 45lb armor is normally attributed to heavy infantry but some horseback Knights are also believed to have worn armor around that weight. Falling from a horse with 45 lb armor would not mean a soldier that was fucked, but his chances of survival decreased dramatically. Heavier examples of horseback knight armor reached into the 75-90lb range. Even if the soldier could stand back up with armor that heavy, he would be a sitting duck even to peasants with farm tools.
As for the war hammer, have you ever tried swinging a 9lb steel sledge hammer around? Not exactly a fantasy weapon.
>>332422197
falling from horseback on the battlefield in general usually meant you're fucked no matter the armor weight
It has everything you need desu
>>332421796
IRL, Griffith would beat guts in a duel 100/100 times. Ridiculous weapons like that make absolutely zero sense outside of pure fantasy.
>>332389348
I like Wooden and Gold Hammers with Short Grips.
A true nobleman weapon, i don't know how can white dogs can even compared
>>332421912
You find it in a chest that is completely rotted through within an area that hasn't had sentient life present for at least a few hundred years.
>>332422419
wow sword the size of a polearm makes no sense outside of fantasy? No kidding.
>>332422197
>are also believed
>believed
yes that's way more convincing than the fact that armor that was actually found is lighter aside from jousting ones of course
>>332393464
my nigga
>>332422197
>Heavier examples of horseback knight armor reached into the 75-90lb range
that's jousting armor
>have you ever tried swinging a 9lb steel sledge hammer around?
even pollaxes aren't that heavy
>>332389348
Any absurdly large gloves/boots for beating shit up close and personal.Bonus points if it's a female character that uses them
>>332422197
>75-90lb range
not surprised one bit an American is too retarded to see the difference between armors used for jousting tournaments and armor that was used in battle
protip: the latter was lighter
>>332389948
> LOL kabar/Air Force survival knife
> cable/Rod tang design
Absolutely useless tier. My first knife was a ka-bar and it was so fucking disappointing when the handle fell apart and the rod tang snapped. Always go full tang for a combat knife.
>>332416872
>Anyone have a screencap of that one panel from that one Schierke doujin? You know the one
I do indeed.
>>332423464
?
>>332422932
Accept battlefield relics weighing in that range have been proven. Was it common? Probably not. Even so, a knight dismounted in 50lb armor was absolutely fucked on a battlefield.
>>332422861
You think a 5lb sledge would be much better. Not a practical weapon except for murdering helpless overburdened Knights no longer horsed.
Are there any games with satisfying melee combat?
Where smashing someone's head in with a morningstar actually feels good
>>332423590
Idk what the melee button is on PC lol
>>332423731
>using ''accept'' as ''except''
you're even more retarded than I thought
and there was no 50lbs armor aside from jousting ones which I and some other anons already pointed out
>>332423731
>sledge
what the fuck are you on about do you even know how medieval warhammers looked like?
>>332423789
Exanima, maybe? Never played it, but I'd image that being the case since everything's supposed to be run by the physics.
>>332420630
yeah it was used on horseback you retard
>>332392117
>Claymores
That's an explosive, would that be against the rules here?
>>332389348
btw this weapon didn't exist in real life and was made up in Victorian era just like Iron Maiden torture device
Step aside pizza bros, true best weapon coming through.
>>332409772
Aztecs were more keen on sacrificing enemy combatants and not their own people. They did have enforcers in the market that would execute theives and swindlers.
>>332425125
>sacrifice supposed to be an honor
>sacrifices thieves and swindlers
>>332424053
I used a sledge as an example because I've actually swung an example of a warhammer and the closest experience I can give is a sledge hammer. Same exact physics and similar weights depending on the sledge used. I would not carry one into a battle against even remotely swift opponents.
> Typing on phone auto-correct mistake. > Retarded
And you refuse to acknowledge late Middle Ages examples of armor in the 100lb range that was indeed combat armor.
>>332424823
Nigga that's a Beyblade bought off of Ebay
>>332423789
Mighty Boot and Sir Kickalot
Mount and Blade Warband to some extend
That one zombie game by the makers of Dead Island
Severance Blade of Darkness
Rune (viking game, very cool)
>>332418865
Sure, an armour can cost around 2000 euros (mine did) but if you're a working adult, it's really not that much in the end for a hobby (a motorcycle for example usually costs way more). And it's not just for the hobby, you'll also get the radest interior decoration to your living room. Pic related, my gf did some decorating for last Christmas.
>>332412770
13 & 38 are my favorites.
>>332399876
Fucking ridiculously overlong hilt. Why is it that everyone seems to like them when it makes your weapon more difficult to use? It's not a greatsword so you don't need that length.
>>332424940
flails did exist,
Literally flame blade.
>>332413776
I was just going to post a baseball bat, but yeah, this.
>>332416282
some people try to make their own weapons.
this looks nice though
>>332425608
The hilt was used as a blind weapon in medieval combat when your enemy was using plate.
>>332401321
It makes me happy that there are some of these in FE:Fates and just a little butthurt that they're not called a kanabo
>>332422197
>warhammer being 9 pounds
>steel sledgehammers being used AT ALL
>Not knowing that modern soldiers run around with 100 pounds of gear
It's like you know nothing about armour at all!
>>332422197
>9lb steel sledge hammer around
It's so heavy, noone used it. Sleges were not used.
Even 90 lb armour is wearable. This weight is distributed on the entire body, you can get up wearing it. Wearing so much armour you literally can't get back up makes no fucking sense, what if you slip? These things are taken into account when designing it.
>>332389348
Swords, classic swords.
What's not to love about a simple sword?
>>332399913
>BAD TIER
>>Zweihander
found the troll
>>332425887
*blunt I mean
>>332425932
HEY WAIT A MINUTE
>>332425887
Yeah, but not that fucking long. All you need is enough room to put both hands on the weapon. Not even the treatises show handles as long as people are using today. It just adds weight for NO reason at all.
>>332415281
i love sabers.
they look so nice
>>332425824
Flamberge style was supposed to be decorative only
>>332426043
True.
>>332426087
Shit apparently works though, so roll with it.
>>332389348je suis monte!
A trusty dagger to jam in the dicks and asses of my foes.
>>332426087
It actually wasn't. It had advantages over a straight blade in cutting power and had the benefit of throwing an enemy's weapon farther off line in a parry. However, it wasn't used too often because of the maintenance problems.
>>332426087
Really? The edges look somewhat serrated, figured there might be a purpose for that.
best looking sword and it fucking sucks unless you dedicate your character to it.
and even then it still sucks
>>332425907
> Modern soldiers have 100lbs of gear
Soldiers drop their packs when in combat. they don't want that 3rd line gear slowing them down in battle.
Warhammer I tried out was 3.5 - 4lbs. It's brutal but useless against more lithe weapons. I used the 5lb sledge as a comparison because it felt like swinging that around. Same weight distribution.
>>332426292
Why would you want a tiny sword though?
>>332389348
>>332425908
90lb armor is wearable but useless against lightly armored soldiers with spears and warhammers. On horseback they were a tank, but off they were a victim.
Nothing beats a good swing of a baseball bat.
>>332426734
The warhammer you tried out was vastly overweight and of course a hammer would have the same weight distribution as another hammer.
The real problem with a warhammer isn't it's weight it's the length. An opponent with a longer weapon in a duel will can outrange you and cut you down before you can even reach them. However, in a battle when you've already charged with your lance and you're facing other guys in armour a sword isn't going to serve you very well.
>>332426336
You're taking a long sword and increasing the weight to keep the same length. they are already difficult to wield and making them heavier would make them ineffective. They were decorative.
>>332426931
>useless against spears
nah
>useless against warhammers
yes
>off they were a victim
not quite, if they were standing and with a weapon knights were still tanks of the battlefield that needed special weapons to get rid of. But if their horse was killed and they got pinned under it, of course they would be stabbed in the eye immediately.
>>332427274
"Flamberge" is about the blade, not the sword. It's true that the pic you responded to was for ceremonial use, but smaller swords having flamberge blades could be seen in combat.
>>332426274
Keys?
Keys pls?
Keys?
>>332427075
I was told the warhammer I tried was designed to bring down larger heavy cavalry horses by striking at the legs. I was told it was somewhat heavier, but even 1lb less (cold steel makes a 2.5lb war hammer) wouldn't change my opinion on it.
> Sword isn't going to serve well against armor
Absolutely. I'm not a complete moron who shills swords as some magical fantasy weapon that can slice through heavy armor.
>>332389616
The shock on the arm must have been pretty devastating.
Otherwise it's a cool concept.
>>332425627
yes but it was this type of flail not the ball on chain mace
>>332389348
Reminder that this weapon never existed.
>>332427859
Then unfortunately you're weak as shit and shouldn't be judging weapons. These swords are the same weight as a warhammer and they have a similar balance. Do they look like they're having a hard time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWAMN23q5kU
>>332425381
oh first it was 50lbs now it's 100 they keep finding heavier ones but at the same time it just happens you post no sources huh?
Is there a plate armor that weights 3 tons as well?
>>332428013
Reminder that you don't exist.
>>332427707
That's true actually. I've seen many middle eastern examples and and Eastern European examples of shorter blades and daggers using the design and the on a shorter blade it gives the user more edge and weight at the same length. It's advantageous in the shorter weapon but a huge disadvantage to the long sword or zweihander.
>>332428112
Still doesn't change the fact that IT didn't exist.
>>332427971
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/33867?ft=flail&pg=1&rpp=20&pos=10
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/25072?ft=flail&pg=1&rpp=20&pos=11
>>332426973
except baseball bats with nails
>>332428231
Everyone knows it's a museum scam like iron maiden.
>>332428231
>15th century
>looks way younger
which reminds me of
>Despite being very common in fictional works such as cartoons, films and role-playing games as the "quintessential medieval weapon," historical information about this type of flail is somewhat scarce. A few doubt they existed at all due to the number of pieces sitting museums that turned out to be forgeries, as well as the unrealistic way they are depicted in art.[
>>332428091
Swords have very different feel and ballance to a hammer. A hammer swing that misses throws you off weight and is limited In the different moves the user can advance with lacking even a thrust.
>>332426931
That's just bullshit, stop spreading false facts.
>>332428364
>
>All these halberd bros with partisan taste
Since when did /v/'s preference for medieval pole arms get so good?
>>332428613
No, a saber like those has the weight towards the tip and in interviews with Polish saber users they will tell you that once you cut you better be committed because the balance makes stopping it difficult.
>>332428672
Why do some people deny these examples exist? Does the thought of the helpless dismounted knight bother you so much? If it makes you feel better a 50lb armored knight separated from his horse is just as screwed as the 90-100lb armored one.
the katana of Mexicans
>>332417630
they were mostly used by mounted knights to smash armored footmen through their helmet.
in an infantry vs infantry scenario, a hammer is borderline useless. super slow, heavy and short ranged. gets owned by common swords, and gets completely shat on by lances and polearms.
>>332429031
I'll admit I've never tried swinging a sword like that around nor would I want to. It looks more technique than strength though.
>>332429069
That's bullshit, heavy armour like that was used exclusively for jousting and was never brought into real battle. As for 50 pounds of armour being debilitating I'd suggest watching videos of actual armour use and learn something. This guy would destroy your poorly armoured ass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_Q3CGqZmg
>>332429069
>helpless dismounted knight
nigger any untrained scrawny kid can squat 100lbs, and that's all on your shoulders.
simply standing up with ~60lbs of armor spread around your body isn't hard.
>>332429085
What's the name of that club with a curved handle and a small spike on the end? Proper fucking skullsplitter.
>>332429408
You're right, it is about technique. Brute strength is less useful than using a weapon properly.
As long as you make sure your swings are good and with purpose you won't tire very quickly. I would suggest going to your local HEMA club if you can because sword, wrestling and spear is very fun.
>>332429085
*Mayans and Aztecs. Do not lump us in with Mexican scum, it's like calling a Cherokee white.
>>332422868
Are this land is peaceful?
>>332429085
Oh I know the name of this one
The Murder-Fucker sword
MORNINGSTAR
>tfw found pictures of flails instead of morningstars
>>332428582
look at the artwork on the same wiki page
>>332393670
>farm for hours and finally get it early in the game
>make a new character to play a strength build and it drops instantly from killing my third knight
>all these shit tier weapons
Urumi is the only correct weapon choice
>>332430418
>people used this irl
that thing is one of the most terrifying weapons I've ever seen. Why would you even use that?
>>332389348
German katana best katana
>>332429554
I always forget how noisy armor is holy shit medieval battlefield would be a constant CLAK CLAK sound I bet everyone was pissed off.
>>332430584
>one of the most terrifying weapons I've ever seen
YOu just answered your own question
>>332430418
It has low cutting power, can't even pierce light armor. Even against a enemy with no armor your more likely to injure than kill with it. Terrifying as fuck though.
>>332429765
Standing up with an extra hundred lbs or even 50 lbs sure, good luck fleeing or fighting though. Peasants with spears can do them in off their horses.
>>332429179
Doesn't the shorter one handed version for horseback have a different name?
>>332389348
>not wanting to use a sword that explodes when it hits something
>>332406185
There are first-hand accounts of these things decapitating horses in one swing.
>>332431846
Yes, they CAN if they get lucky. You can find many videos of guys fighting and running in armour. Hell, I wish I saved that webm of the guy fucking SPRINTING at the camera with full armour. Honestly you make it sound like armour did nothing at all so why use it?
>>332431846
>>332432085
If you wear full plate armour, you're strong. Not because it's particularly heavy - armour is DESIGNED to be worn. A man is supposed to move and be very physically active for a long time in it. Tiring kills you. A knight would train all the time to keep himself in shape, this wasn't a random nobody, they were trained in the art of fighting.
>>332430418
http://youtu.be/-kWa2d9nBsg
Berserk made them look scary as fuck.
>>332409354
I did not ask for this boner.
>>332432081
that's pretty metal
>>332432646
I was always super impressed with Muira's knowledge of Indian culture, arms, and armor.
>>332432735
"They have swords of this kind — of wood made like a two-handed sword, but with the hilt not so long; about three fingers in breadth. The edges are grooved, and in the grooves they insert stone knives, that cut like a Toledo blade. I saw one day an Indian fighting with a mounted man, and the Indian gave the horse of his antagonist such a blow in the breast that he opened it to the entrails, and it fell dead on the spot. And the same day I saw another Indian give another horse a blow in the neck, that stretched it dead at his feet."
>>332432495
that gif is hard to believe impressive. You have a source for it?
>>332433053
Aztec Guts kek
AH! AH! IT BURNS! IT BUUUUUUUUUUURNS!
>>332433219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
>>332415994
Too thick. Too heavy. Far too rough. Looks more like a heap of raw iron.
>>332422885
>female
+1
>>332433368
>Post your non-firearm weaponfu
post literally a fire arm.
>>332433798
It's aerosol and a lighter.
>>332433525
Assuming those armor examples are in the 35-50lb range, some of those guys are fairly quick and agile.
> those action rolls
Too much darksouls
>>332432764
my nigga
>>332433892
you're an aerosol
>>332421796
More like you keep getting parried like the monkey that you are. Pick a real sword.
When your typical oversized edge shit isn't oversized or edgy enough.
>>332434501
All those armours are in the 35-50 range. Anything higher is impractical and anything lower you're taking plates off. You could reach this level too if you practiced. Hell, if you're not into armoured fighting you could practice with the many unarmoured clubs. Assuming you're in the US and not in the middle of nowhere there are HEMA clubs you could be practicing with. Common weapons and martial traditions are longsword, one handed sword (sometimes with buckler), dagger, spear and wrestling. Arts that are beginning their resurgence are military saber, rapier (not olympic sport fencing) and Polish saber which is beautiful to watch.
I have one of these, so I'm biased. It's made out of some heavy and hard wood, weighs about 2kg, and it feels like it could crack a skull with a decent swing.
They have to be pretty hard to take out a kangaroo.
>>332433219
just how thick do you think plate armor is?
>>332434941
I RECOGNIZE THAT SWORD
>>332435074
Hell pretty much all europena countries have HEMA clubs scattered across them evenly. I live inFinlandand there's quite a lot of clubs.
>>332389348
Really, any huge axe
>People in this thread believe armored knights were too slow and heavy to be any good at fighting
I bet you believe all big super strong guys are slow too.
Protip: real life is not subject to vidya gaem balancing.
>>332435159
Forgot my pic
>>332389979
>no game where you play as sauron, culminating in you regaining the one ring and going berserk on niggas with your mace of unholy might
>>332435472
Someone post that french video with the armored guys rolling around and climbing ladders and shit.
>>332435362
Canada here and I have to admit that clubs are pretty rare here. However, living in the city I do have three clubs I can practice with and I go to one clubs training night and another's open sparring night. It's fun as fuck.
>>332435584
Games really need to learn how to powertrip properly. I'd give my soul for a game that could replicate the feeling that seeing Sauron throwing men around left and right gave me.
>>332435743
Musou shit?
>he doesn't wreck motherfuckers with his augmented fists and then pay for the parking meter
>>332435215
> that one guy who has no idea how it feels to wear 50lbs of plate armor
There's always that one guy
>>332435834
Musou doesn't have the same feeling because you're always like that from the getgo. At the start normal enemies should give the player trouble, and then the end sequence should be player just wrecking shit all around until culminating into a boss fight. High standards I know, but that'd be the best powertrip a game could give.
>>332389979
>>332392849
>>332412914
>>332417968
>>332418682
my afro american friends
>>332393245
shitty cgi dwarfs
>>332399913
>bad tier
>francisca
say that to my heerbann not online you roman fucking shit
>>332401698
A HOONTER MUST HOONT