In my opinion, the 7th generation peaked with this boss fight
>thinking a single boss fight is greater than the overall game
Your opinion is fucking incredibly wrong (though you do have good taste).
>>332337579
DS2?
And if I've never played Souls should I run through DS2 or Bloodborne before DS3? I only have a PS4.
What makes this guy stand out for everyone?
He's just an average big guy with sword except his attacks are a bit quicker
>peaked at artorias
>easiest boss of the dlc
>>332339154
Firstly, he's a painfully obvious reference to Guts.
But secondly, he's e Vergil fight of the game. Fight yourself, but better in every way. He's not a dragon, a monster, or a god (traditionally speaking. I know Anor Londians? were gods), he IS just a big guy with a sword. Just like you. Gwyn could have been just as good if he wasn't the easiest thing in the fucking game to parry.
>>332339643
the point of Gwyn was that his fight is supposed to be sad, not difficult. he's an aging, dying god and by the end of the game you are far stronger than he is. the music is a good cue for this
>>332340297
I'm aware, but I also feel like him being as parry-able as he is was a legitimate accident that Miyazaki decided is 2deep4us, as is his way of writing.
>>332339273
He was the easiest boss but I just liked him the most. I'd say Manus is on the same level of difficulty though.
>>332340513
without having known, would you have thought to try parrying him?did you not play it spoiler-free first?
>>332339273
He said Artorias, not Kalameet.
>>332337579
That's a pretty crazy unusual opinion you got there.
>>332340513
Then just fight him without parrying, if you're complaining he's too easy, even though that's the whole point
>>332338764
DS1
>>332340961
Really? I thought he was the hardest.
>>332338764
It's from the first Dark Soul's DLC. Although DS2's swordsman bosses all fight like him too.
>>332340513
Bosses that you can parry are so stupid. Totally ruined Bloodborne for me because all the coolest bosses were far and away the easiest. Maybe if you could open them up for a counter attack like the Pursuer, but it's kind of shit that you can just tear away huge chunks of their HP no matter what kind of weapon you're using.
>>332340731
Yes, because damn-near every humanoid enemy is parry-able.
>>332340297
I have terrible difficulty killing gwyn without parrrying him. That fuckhueg fire sword always gets me when I roll away
>>332339273
>not the fucking lion
>>332337579
this dlc is massively overrated and not very good
I don't know why everyone constantly praises it
>>332341678
>not Manus
>>332338764
Dark Souls 2 is the worst entry point because while it is a fine game in its own right, it pales when compared to the others and has very little in common with them.
Dark Souls 1 is the best place to start, Demon's Souls is fine, Bloodborne is similar philosophically but is not at all related to the souls games save for one piece of cut dialogue from a boss connecting it to Demon's Souls.
>>332341815
Because Artorias is a Berserk reference.
I liked seeing the other three Knights of Gwyn in person. It was cool. Also fighting alongside Sif. But none of that made it the greatest moment in gaming to me. I think the people that say that are the same people that think Dark Souls is the hardest series ever made. They clearly haven't played many games. Or they're just the kind of people that say "literally" before everything.
>>332341815
because it is good and you have shit taste
>>332339643
Every single boss is not a reference to Guts. Fuckin Christ calm down
I'd honestly say this fight was the most intense boss fight of the 7th generation.
Samael was an intense as fuck fight.
>>332337579
>boss fight against one of the biggest failures in the series is good
I hate how rollable through his attacks are too. Even the guardian who has nothing to do with the plot is more exciting because he knows how to be agressive.
yeah okay.
>>332342198
I didn't say that, did I? I said Artorias is.
>>332340513
Read an interview. Gwynn was supposed to be fair for every build. Being parry able was a design decision with non str builds in mind
>>332341571
So you tried to parry every person?
Yeah, I fucking doubt that.
>>332342198
Artorias is the only boss that legitimately is, Miyazaki said that himself. I don't know why everyone says that about other bosses.
Ornstein's called Griffith in the game's code though.
>>332342479
Every humanoid enemy? Yes, I did. Because it works on most. You learn that shit in fucking DeS and it applies to every game.
>>332342410
Literally every boss was supposed to be fair for every build.
>>332342215
Really? I remember it was alright but nothing to be amazed about.
>>332342410
More specifically, he was supposed to be a final test of skill for every build's highest potential. The only reason he can be parried is because it was thought that parrying would be the primary trump card for a thief character.
>>332342573
So after playing DeS, going up against humanoids like the Old Hero, Penetrator, and Allant, and having none of them be parryable, you thought "Well, maybe THIS giant boss is!"?
>get teleported into the past because why not
>talking mushroom tells you to save the princess
>you have no idea if thats a smart thing to do
>could just teleport back and get shit done in your actual timeline where you are needed
>mushroom gives you a complete shit reward for the crucial task that no one else managed to do
>hardest boss is optional and just some dragon that no one really gives a fuck about
>big guy archer has a hardon for hunting dragons, but never bothers to shoot him down
>dark magic
The DLC is as bad as the worst parts of the base game.
>>332343004
Look, you listed three enemies out of an ENTIRE GAME FULL OF HUMANOID ENEMIES THAT ARE PARRY-ABLE. HMMMM.
fume knight is the best boss of the entire souls series.
prove me wrong
>>332341957
>save for one piece of cut dialogue from a boss connecting it to Demon's Souls
source?
>>332343167
No, I listed three humanoid bosses. He isn't just some enemy, he's fairly explicitly the final boss. And there is no way that you would take a tactic that has not worked on a single boss up until that point, humanoid ones included, and go "Yeah, this will totally work!"
Tbh I dunno how you can think he's parriable. No other boss was before him I think, but at the same time in DaS you're mostly fighting giants or demons as bosses.
>>332343485
It was in the Network test. You could get out of bounds and fight Gascoigne. When he killed you he would say "Umbasa." If you just Google or even YouTube "Bloodborne Umbasa", you'll probably find it easily.
>>332343485
Papa gascoigne used to say umbasa.
Artorias wasn't even that good. Gehrman is the best souls boss.
>>332343620
>>332343728
>umbasa.
aha cool. Hate when they remove stuff like that
>>332343569
Except he isn't fucking huge. He's maybe, MAYBE, a foot taller than you. Maybe. Why WOULDN'T it work against him when it works against every single Invader?
>>332343762
>Gherman
>Not Maria
>>332343913
>Maria
>>332343913
Mini Ornstein, Artorias, Gwyndolin and Pinwell aren't that big either.
>>332343048
>>talking mushroom tells you to save the princess
>>you have no idea if thats a smart thing to do
>not getting the Mario Reference
just like with Mario, you do it cuz it's fun
>>332343913
It didn't work against Ornstein, who is the same size. Why would it work on him?
Besides, he's clearly a boss. Not an invader, not an NPC, not a PC, not a generic enemy. A boss. No other boss is parryable. There is almost no reason for you to think that he would be.
>>332344310
Only two of them use melee attacks, and one of the others only does giant animu swings. I'll give you Ornstein, though.
>>332344416
So Manus is just a pipe who is also Bowser?
>it's a, anon walk around and tries to parry every enemy in the game episode
>>332341957
>Demon's Souls is fine
t...this is bait, right?
>>332344878
Kalameet is bowser
>So Manus is just a pipe
fuck if I know man, I'm high
>>332344910
No, but that was.
>>332342579
4k is far from fair for magic
>>332337579
Honestly, this expansion and this fight was incredibly overrated.
Gwyn was a great fight though.
