>never played a Star Fox game before
>well no better time than now
>$30 bucks later
>holy shit this is fun
>shut the fuck up Slippy
>you're my bro Peppy
>fuck off Falco
Why does /v/ hate this series again? My only complaint is it's too short.
>>332333819
Because every game since has been shit
Because star fox zero looks like another remake of 64
They haven't made a good game that isn't a 64 remake, and doesn't kill off a bunch of characters.
>this is fun
>>332333819
Don't play anything others besides the original or Zero if that ends up being good.
>>332333819
because you played the one good game in the series and that game came out like 20 years ago.
Wait let me rephrase that: you played one version of the only good game in the series. We now await Nintendo to release yet anohter version of the only good game in the series next month.
>>332333989
Correction, another remake with crappy forced tilt controls.
>>332334339
Tilt controls were pretty good in Splatoon though.
>>332334417
Excuse me anon?
>>332334417
>People seriously think this
The controls are literally the one major thing wrong with that game. If they put any work smoothing out the twin stick setup rather than giving it all the precision of a ps1 FPS, then maybe it'd actually be playable.
>>332334417
Good for Splatoon.
I'll take stick over gyro any day when it comes to Star Fox.
How's the game in comparison to the original?
>>332334565
>>332334621
Gyros are more precise than sticks when aiming. Mouse>Gyro>Stick.
>>332334641
But Star Fox is now a game based entirely around it.
>>332334621
If you actually played the game you'd know you have the option to turn them off.
If this is meant to be bait I'm not even sure you tried
>>332334750
the only reason you would play original 64 over 3D nowadays is if you
a) dont own a 3ds
b) would prefer to play on a tv/monitor
c) somehow enjoy the n64 controller
3D is a nice upgrade in that it has good graphics, extra content, gyro mode for screwing around (some people actually prefer it, I dont)
>>332333819
The series was briefly unique for putting the precision emphasis on wrecking everything possible and letting dodging be more of a generous and casual thing, whereas most arcadey shooters emphasize dodging as the precise thing and make shooting the more casual affair. Then, Nintendo entirely disregarded that and tried to rebuild the franchise from the ground up repeatedly, which has never worked to date.
Maybe Zero won't suck, not holding my breath.
>>332335227
>Maybe Zero won't suck, not holding my breath.
It easily looks better then everything after 64 and it's remake, at the very least so far. The delay really helped the game out.
>>332334923
I know the game has a twin stick setup, but....
>>332334862
The twin stick would be more precises if they didn't botch it so bad. They built it with no smoothing, no sensitivity. It was a complete after thought that doesn't compare to any real console shooter. Comparing their tilt controls to that makes the waggle look superior but just compare it to any halo or call of duty and you have a complete joke of a setup.
>>332335532
Gyro is still more accurate than playing Halo with a stick, though. Halo has stupid amounts of auto-aim, too, not to even mention CoD.
>>332334946
Star Fox 64 is available on Virtual Console and works with a variety of controllers. Circle Pad is pretty awful compared to a Gamecube controllers analog stick. It also isn't subject to periodic bouts of scalper hell like 3D is.
>>332334946
I was a little disappointed in the voicework, but it is still a very solid remake.
Because /v/ is butthurt that Star Fox can actually walk. Assault fucked with their headcannon that he was a cripple stuck in his Arwing and it makes them angry.
>>332333819
No one hates the series. It's just that all of the games are bad except one.
>>332336027
You are an idiot. You could unlock an on-foot mode for SF64 Versus to begin with. Find a new scapegoat.
>>332335696
The original Halo didn't have auto aim and it worked just fine. CoD for as much shit as it'll get actually handles "auto aim" really cleverly. The aimer doesn't adjust itself to make where you need to point the gun more generous, instead it just slows the movement of your turning subtly so when you're aiming at an enemy's body the controls become more precise, and faster for when you're not aiming at an enemy. A kinda system that could have easily been made.
>>332336503
>The original Halo didn't have auto aim and it worked just fine
No, it did. You know why the gyro was almost necessary for making it to S++ rank in Splatoon? Because you need that level of speed and precision in the game and the stick has no autoaim to keep up with it.
>>332336394
Well then, there's nothing to complain about.
>>332333919
>there are people who unironically dont like assault
literally the reason every 1st party nintendo game is shit now
>>332333819
>Why does /v/ hate this series again?
What?
>>332333819
Because there's a new game coming out and it looks like it might actually have good qualities to it, and /v/ can't fucking stand when that happens.
This or 64?
It's £4 on the eshop
>>332336727
Or because no one takes Splatoon seriously enough to seriously compete over it as some MLG pro game.
As for your halo 1 claim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCU
>>332336797
WHAAAAAAAT
No one said it, so i'm gonna say it cause some fag will.
Krystal happened and its their boogeyman, anything she shows up in is auto bad. The end.
>>332337548
Just hack your 3DS and pirate it.
I like Krystal
>>332337857
I'd rather not
>>332337857
>being a fag
>>332337581
Halo CE has autoaim in midrange, it just doesn't have the bullet magnetism of 2 and 5. 2 has the same amount of autoaim as 1 but now the only useful weapon is the BR and it has bullet magnetism. 3 is an autoaim RNG fuckup. 5 has a little less autoaim than 2 and 3 but more bullet magnetism. They all feature aiming assists, though.
Seriously, I've played Halo since the CE days, don't bullshit your way through.
>>332338138
Then emulate 64 on your PC fag.
Star Fox 64 isn't worth a penny unless you're playing on an original N64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xOeg589SJM
>>332337548
VAs in 64 are supposed to be better, 3ds has a level select so you can replay Zoness without having to do Aquas which is the worst level
>>332336797
Assault was a mess of wasted potential as a singleplayer game, and an excellent multiplayer game that nobody ever fucking played because smash bros melee.
>>332338314
That makes zero sense. The 3D version is the definitive version of the game. You cannot prove me wrong on this.
>Typical AAA game
>Every line is generic and moderately cringeworthy
>Some glorified railshooter
>Literally every line is memorable and infinitely quotable
Why is this
>>332339146
Despite having the same VA's 64's voice work is definitely better, there's also no on foot multiplayer in 64 3D. While I agree 3D looks better and the 3D actually helps the 64 game is also pretty solid.
>>332339146
>Star Fox 64 isn't worth a penny unless you're playing on an original N64
I said Star Fox 64. Never mentioned 3D. The original game isn't worth a penny on Wii/Wii U Virtual Console.
>>332339640
Part of it's the VA, AAA games have several repeated VAs, (Baker, Bailey, North etc.) whilst I wouldn't say they're bad, they can make the games blend together, much like with Xenoblade Chornicles, SF64 has a bunch of uniques that don't fuck up their lines (unlike Fates.)
It also helps that nearly all the dialogue in SF64 is one-liners witht h odd back and forth
>>332340138
So how come I can't recall one zinger from the Heropon but I can, with perfect tonality recreate I'LL DO YOU FAST, PEPPY OL' PAL
>>332339640
Simple is best.
Dropping one liners before blowing people up is always great.
>>332334203
Yea what's the issue?
>>332340357
Replaying the game is part of the experience, even the most jaded person will succumb to the power of cheesy lines and repeat them as they keep playing.
>>332340357
Because you probably benched Riki, but I can be guaranteed replies just by postingBORN IN A WORLD OF STRIFE
>>332340357
>doesn't remember RIKI SNEAKY
Maybe nostalgia? Did you miss all the times people recite blossom dance on here?
>>332341230
AGAINST THE ODDS
>>332341230
>Dub
>>332341409
SO WE FIGHT
>>332339061
>riding on arwing wing
this shit was so fucking cool..
>>332341432
>Not having glorious Britbongistan VAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPNm8oAO1X0&feature=youtu.be&t=2m44s
>>332341659
That was pretty fun in multiplayer when it was just a liability to everybody, and you'd have no discernible damage output
>>332340138
>>332341665
So whats better, cheesy memorable VA's or technically "good" VA's that people can't remember?
>>332341462
Ya fucked it
>>332341462
>>332341665
>Not having a cast that puts their heart into screaming
Sold 5 seconds in after using the buster and hearing Dunban go MONADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO with such ferocity I actually soiled my britches
>>332341893
>>332341904
Fuck, what was the line?
>>332341916
>I'LL MAKE YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE
>>332341967
WE CHOOSE TO FIGHT
>>332338314
I don't have a pc.
Jesus Christ what a fag, if you're not going to answer don't bother replying
>>332341880
cheesy memorable ones can still be good, but overall it depends on the tone of the game and the atmosphere you're trying to create.
>>332341967
It's "We choose to fight"
>>332341916
https://youtu.be/A2vMllYljc0?t=2m28s
>>332339023
That the only advantage to the 3DS game then? I'll just get it on WiiU
>>332342639
I assumed the time would link to this bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJRRR3jKcY
>>332342725
From what I've heard, but I don't actually have the 3ds version so you might want to get somebody who does to confim
>>332342972
I've talked myself in to the £4 version, cheers. Hope it's fun
>>332337548
Just go for 64 if that is the cheaper one.
>>332339023
Pretty much that and the multiplayer is practically useless on 3D and there is a new Babby Easy difficulty level added to the game. The depth of field effect in 3D is nice but not critical, the optional gyro aiming is terrible because aiming is also tied to movement in Star Fox.
>>332342639
>>332342972
>"Her screams were music to my ears. My claws ripped through her soft flesh...like a HOT KNIFE, THROUGH BUTTER HAHAHAH
10/10 Voice acting. Listened to the Japanese dub and its so generic. English has great character and Dunban sounds like the big brother/mentor figure than the typical hot headed Japanese teen.
>>332340138
Surprised you didn't list Blum.
>>332341880
Text.
Great Tier
>Star Fox 64/3DS
>Star Fox
Non-Existent But GOAT Tier
>Star Fox 2
Oh God Stop
>Star Fox Assault
Really, Stop
>Star Fox Command
It Hurts
>Star Fox Adventures
>>332344034
This.
Text has hit me a lot harder then most VAs have.
Also for some reason I can feel more with 2D sprites then 3D models.
>>332343818
Metal Face going full ham for the entire fucking game is great. Honestly, I'm bummed all the faced mechon weren't as hammy as Mumkhar and Xord.
My second playthrough of Assault was much more enjoyable than my first.
I didn't expect it to be, but it was.
>>332344189
>SNES Star Fox
>Good
>Adventures somehow lower than the Other M of the series and not decent at best along with Assault
Look I like the very original, but everyone knows it's a tech demo
>>332345084
>SF64 wasn't a tech demo
lmao
>>332336797
>not making general pepper choke
Pleb
>>332346259
I wish there was a stained invoice from spit out coffee image for exceptional scores
>tfw no 3D Classics Star Fox
I wonder why Nintendo stopped making these games, the Sega ones seem to be selling well enough.
>>332348406
>Argonaut made the FX Chip
>Said dev company died off
>EA supposedly owns all the remains
>Due to this dispute, Nintendo cannot release any of the games that used the chip
This actually explains why we got the GBA version of Yoshis Island on the WiiU VC, because the original version used it. The only way to get around this is if they rebuild it, but like they'll actually do that.
>>332348778
If it's a patent, I believe it should expire about 20 years after its creation.
>>332336797
>64 bucks for everything shot down
>Fox mcJew counting space rocks as "enemies"
>>332349195
I think someone mentioned it, but if the EA part is true, it wont mean jack shit. It's like trying to rerelease a movie game, the legal factor is ridiculous.
Though really, Nintendo did rebuild the snes original, as a minigame with three stages of difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwJHpEprIw
>>332349617
Well patents are not trademarks nor copyrights.
A copyright expires after the death of its creation + 70 years or 120 years (thank Disney for this) and they're used to register songs, drawings, characters, paintings, written works, etc. Trademarks I think expire in a decade or so and must be renewed, and they are for registering names or slogans.
Patents are inventions (the FX chip being an invention) expire 20 years after being approved to prevent a monopoly to be created from an invention (and of course you can always bypass patents by making a "not so similar" variant.
But the FX chip has a special type of "Copyright Patent" from that circle with M inside. I think that should have expired in 15 years.
>>332350576
I dont know how it works, I just know Nintendo wont release it again, Miyamoto apparently didnt give two shits about that one. Then again this is coming from the very guy who's an idiot now.
>Ruined Paper Mario as a whole
>Responsible for the WiiU
>Nearly ruined Zero by making it the most casual ass game imaginable, could choose any level and could beat said level in a minute or three
>Pretty much already did ruin it after the changes by forcing a god mode option in there for ultra casuals, no word on if you get punished for using it
>Said fuck you to the Arwing amiibo cause safety reasons
>>332351939
>arwing amiibo safety concerns
>bowser is literally a 5lb sphere weapon with deadly spikes
>>332351939
>Ruined Paper Mario
Not his fault, the new director took his advice too seriously
>Responsible for the Wii U
Pretty sure that was Iwata, but probably wrong.
>Nearly ruined Zero
But he didn't, he saw what people wanted and decided to make that instead.
>God mode option
Who the fuck cares? This was already in Mario, it's just there for the stupid kids. There's apparently a hard mode.
>Arwing amiibo
Never heard of it.
>>332351939
Why should you get punished for using god mode? It's not a competitive game.
>>332344189
switch command and adventure and you're golden. Advetures suffered from a lot of problems, but it was actually playable unlike the ass trash that is Command.
>>332353156
>Tetris Attack
>You can have the CPU play all the way through the story mode
>Upon beating it, you dont get the ending at all and the game tells you to fuck off for cheating
>Mario 3D World
>If you use the White Tanuki Suit, your save file gets smacked until you beat the level(s) legitimately
>>332344189
I've never played the gamecube star fox games.
Why does /v/ hate them so much?
>>332353850
So?
>>332353850
That doesn't answer the question at all.
>>332354992
It doesn't have to be a competitive game to punish you for using god mode.
>>332336797
I played the first level after going through 64.
It's ass. At least the flying sections. They totally beefed it.
>>332333819
Did you get the true ending OP? What was your favorite mission?
>>332354992
>>332354963
>Game has an invincibility mode
>Five badges for each stage
>Ending to consider as well
>Assuming this, there's no punishment for using it
As much as you can argue it's an option, why even bother trying when you can just be a cheating bastard and beat the game without any shred of challenge. It's the whole "everyone wins" shit they're doing, and even those from back then even think this is an horrible thing to have while dumbfucks are justifying it because they're complete shit at games or they cant bother to tell their child to deal with losing at things.
>>332355519
You should be rewarded for doing things in an extraordinary way, such as completing the game on the hardest difficulty with a set score. Like Expert medals in SF64 or the save file marks for completing the game with no deaths in Mario games. Spiting bad players accomplishes nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO2V7pjDlX8
holy SHIT this guy is a cock
>0:25
>>332351939
>>Ruined Paper Mario as a whole
Kensuke Tanabe ruined Paper Mario AS WHOLE you fucking dolt
>>332334946
Yeah the voice acting in 3D is worse, somehow. I don't know why they didn't just use the original recordings.
>>332333819
>Why does /v/ hate this series again?
Worldbuilding with furries is a recipe for disaster.
The basic formula is sound and Arwing = comfy, but Nintendo had no fucking clue what to do with this franchise.
>>332355716
Those badges are for getting scores in each difficulty most likely. That is all the incentive to play a harder difficulty you need.
>>332355971
>I'LL DO YOU FAST PEPPY OLD PAL
I wonder if Peppy is triggered as fuck knowing his ex-friend is still trying to murder him.
>>332356863
Star Fox Assault is partially a bounty hunt on Pigmas fat ass so probably.
Who's the best bro and why is it Falco?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oC0SW8i6k8
>>332357041
>People got pissed Pigma dies
>Disregarding how much of a backstabbing jew he was and deserved it
Even Wolf hated him
>>332357613
Yeah, Pigma is great.
>>332357813
I mean, they could've revived him, not the way Command pulled it out of their ass but more so someone reviving him by regenerating him with a piece of his DNA.I question why they never used Shears again, he had the resources to bring Andross back
>>332333819
Becasue the fanbase is full of nostalgiafags that fear change (64 3D, Zero) that furfags that accept change(Adventures and Assault). Put the two together and you get a split fandom that hate each other from pure autism. also, memes
>>332349598
Nigga they're mercenaries. You expect them not to be Jewish?
>>332358130
Because the Falco comic probably isn't canon.
Certainly not at this point.
>>332358246
>mercs
>never works for venom despite the fact that they could probably pay more
>>332358371
Probably because they were responsible for killing his father.what if peppy lied about everything and he was the actual villain
>>332357813
Greater than Leon?
>>332358371
1) Andross killed Fox's dad and nearly wiped the original team. They've got pretty personal reasons not to work for Venom.
2) You never betray an employer mid contract for a better price. That's just common business sense.
>>332349598
It gets better when you remember that shooting down more than one target at a time with a charged shot grants you a hits bonus.
Star Fox literally puts a premium on style.
>>332358585
>2) You never betray an employer mid contract for a better price. That's just common business sense.
>>332358585
>/v/ now thinks they're savvy mercenaries who know how mercenary business works
>>332358371
Being a merc doesn't mean you immediately sell your soul for money. In fact being Corneria's go-to PMC has been pretty lucrative.Also Andross is fucking nuts why would you sign on with him?
>>332357613
People can easily care about a despicable character dying. It seeds doubt in whether the future entries in the series will have a better villain. Pigmas a pretty good villain due to his willingness to leave friends for dead for profit and come back to taunt them about it when they get back on their feet.
>>332358321
NOE did go through the entire history of the series, so it's doubtful they'd fuck that over. It was stupid they never included that book in the US, because that shit has vital info to why Falco was absent throughout Adventures. It was also pretty interesting to see how fucked up Peppers army was.If the game was finished as it was supposed to, the part where you save Krystal is actually the half point of the game, Falco returns less pissy than he was before, Fox helps Krystal while I think she helps you, Fox and Krystal together kick the shit out of Scales' ass. Krystal then joins the team after teasing Fox with everyone laughing at him.
Yeah, the game would've been way longer.
>>332349598
In some places you can even shoot the ground with charged shots for a HIT bonus.
>>332359061
>Falco was absent throughout Adventures. It was also pretty interesting to see how fucked up Peppers army was.
mind elaborating on both points? I don't remember this shit.
>>332334203
Yes
>>332359236
Falco left the team because he got sick of Foxes shit after fighting him, with Fox nearly killing him.
Captain Shears, one of the guys from the Cornerian army was "doing androsses research" when he was actually secretly reviving Andross. He bullshits Fox and his team to take out a group of people from attacking him, that group was actually Katt and her gang. They both realize they got rused and kick the fuck out of him, with Fox killing Andross again.
>>332358981
>Betray an employer mid contract for a better price
>Assuming everything went peachy, onto the next one
>Can't find work because you're incredibly well-known as the assholes that broke a contract for money
Doesn't really take an expert to puzzle that out.
>>332358321
the manga was officially created by NoJ and SF2 had Captain Shears, so it's likely isn't.
also, the dumb edgy mutt got crushed by the growing head of Andross.
>>332359236
In adventures Falco doesn't show up until the final fight with "guess who?" and for the like the whole game you keep asking where the fuck did he go untill that point
>>332359236
>>332359636
After Shears was defeating, Falco leaves the team, then four years later Fox and his crew do a freelance mission on Sauria as a means of finding shit to get money. This is when Adventures starts, though they kinda altered that last part, an unused audio implies that Fox and crew obtain something valuable and proposes they leave, with Fox saying he has one final thing to do. Peppy knew exactly what it was, thus leading to what I believe it the Fox and Krystal vs Scales fight.
I cant seem to find the archive, but it's an interesting thing to read.
http://starfox.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Fox:_Farewell,_Beloved_Falco
>>332359636
>Falco left the team because he got sick of Foxes shit after fighting him, with Fox nearly killing him.
Damn Fox what the fuck?
That second point would make a sick setpiece in a game. Thanks for the info anon.
>>332359657
>Betray an employer mid contract for a better price
This is also assuming Andross pays the full amount upfront. No one fucking does that and Andross would just as likely kill you once you've done his dirty work.
>>332359680
Yah know with any luck Zero could reuse and rewrite all these characters that weren't able to be utilize properly
>>332333819
>>$30 bucks later
>>332360209
>This is also assuming Andross pays the full amount upfront. No one fucking does that and Andross would just as likely kill you once you've done his dirty work.
Oh yeah, for sure, and if you fail and Corneria manages to pull through you'd better never set foot anywhere they have jurisdiction after that, either.
