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let's talk about armor in vidya


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let's talk about armor in vidya
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bumpnig with some of my favorites
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dwarven armor in skyrim looked fucking fantastic
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I really hate that they took pauldrons out of Elder Scrolls
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>>332308495
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>>332308495
wow plate armor so original you sure have great taste anon
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>>332308786
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>>332308347
Morrowind armor makes you a fugin robot.
I loved.
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>>332309179
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>>332308347
I'm still not sure what the dwemer armor in Oblivion is supposed to represent. A tower?
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>>332309513
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>>332309739
pauldrons in morrowind looked dumb

oblivion and skyrim are great though
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>>332309739
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>>332309876
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>>332309991
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>tfw Great Wroggi will never come back
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>>332308347
>>332309876
>>332309991
Why does Morrowind have the most complex outfits in many cases despite having the shittiest graphics?
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>>332310085
>No transmog system in MonHun ever
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>>332310084
I hate how rough Orcish armour looks in Skyrim. Orcs are supposed to be great blacksmiths
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>>332308495
elite knight looks so strange on females
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>>332310183
bethesda streamlined the designs, which worked better in some cases (daedric) than others (glass)
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>>332310183
At some point Bethesda just stopped trying
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>>332310085
MH has great armours all around. Shame most of them have such shit skills I could never use them. Even the unrealistic armours look good, fuck you realism fags.
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TES has the WORST and most incoherent art direction when it comes to armor out of any franchise. It feels like they just want to be done with the armor/weapon variety and forget about it.
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>>332310183
Console limitations.

Having armour made of layers and multiple parts means more individual objects with their own mesh and texture to be loaded. 5+ individual, layered armour parts or 1 all encompassing suit that can be optimised easier.

Artists might say the having armour as one-piece suits allows for better designs but they're talking shit.
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Reminder that Souls posters are the bane of all armor threads
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>>332308786
>>332309513
>>332309869
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>>332308347
Do they ever explain why in Morrowind Dwarven armor were just disassembled Centurions and then in Oblivion and Skyrim regular suits just pop out of nowhere?
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>>332310984
how come you don't like the armor in souls games?
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Jesus, this thread just reminds me how fucking terrible Oblivion's armors were.
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>>332310881
>console limitations
>when Morrowind was ported on Xbox
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>game has chainmail
>game has platemail
>game has no lamellar
dropped
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>>332311148
I'm guessing because centurions were so abundant in Morrowind they just made do with what they had, while in Oblivion and Skyrim there once lived Dwemer that made a living making armor for the other races, but it's a stretch.

>>332311292
they weren't all bad
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>>332310183
Morrowind was made in an era when Bethesda still gave a shit and wasn't rolling in casual dollars.
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>>332310718
One reason is the admixture of all the different cultures in the games. The races usually take inspiration from some real world cultures and tropes, and they're all thrown together. And then you have all the fantasy races with fantasy tropes being tossed into the same universe. I mean Tamirel is basically a bunch of different little fantasy universes being shoved into the same land mass, multiple different pantheons and histories going on.
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>>332310881
>Having armour made of layers and multiple parts means more individual objects with their own mesh and texture to be loaded. 5+ individual, layered armour parts or 1 all encompassing suit that can be optimised easier.

Except Morrowind did it on the original Xbox and there is no excuse for Skyrim's laziness.
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>>332311292
But compare the amount of data being streamed in Morrowind compared to Oblivion.
Bethesda compromised on layered armour to make more room for other things.
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>>332311428
is that like scale mail?
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>>332311635
https://youtu.be/Jy7lSEB_NLE?t=45
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>>332311467
>female palanil
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>>332310183
Thats because you are still wearing your nostalgia goggles, silly. They really aren't any more complex. Perhaps with the exception of the orcish armor.
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>>332311882
>nostalgia meme
Nice meme
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All time favorite armor design.

Find a flaw.
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>>332310085
I always liked looking like an Indian chief
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>>332311981
>Original perfect ranger armor but with some extra dumb plastic on it.
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>>332309991
Looks like The Empire's treasure is growing thinner with each installment.
lel budget cuts
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>>332311981
Never liked the canteen

Besides that best armor design in the game
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>>332312028
When will this be censored for cultural appropriation?
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>>332308972
>you have to choose some obscure armor or else it's not cool
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>>332311568

Playing the devil's advocate here, but there is a performance impact in layered armor pieces. Every piece is a weightmap-transformed skinned object, and therefore when compared to a naked character, a fully armored one can take the processing power of 3 naked characters just by the animations it performs.

Fortunately we have the PC and skinned meshes are nothing in the grand scheme of performance.
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>>332312051
I don't know, I like the extra gear like the bandoleers and canteen. The helmet is better too. The armor plates are kinda unfitting since they're green though.

This more your speed?
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>>332312316
I think also armour in Morrowind kind of floated on top of the character model as separate objects whereas armour in Oblivion and Skyrim replace the character mesh with its' own.
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>>332311981
I can't, though that's not my favorite armor. Mine is probably what Delta Squad uses.

>>332312323
I'd probably prefer this to the Elite gear if there was some neck protection. Is it unintentional?
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Skyrim's washed out color scheme is abysmal. At least that's one thing FO4 actually improved on.
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>>332311981
The Canteen on his belt creates a 90° angle with the belt. It ruins what would otherwise be a more harmonious design.

The shoulderpads on the right figure's right shoulder has that WoW-like seethrough thing that makes it look cheap and unfinished.
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>>332312539
I think it is, but there's a mod you can get that gives you a neck cover, it's a pretty easy fix.
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>>332308347
>dwarven weapons and armor are supposed to be high tech and light
>morrowind fucks this all up because of kookbride wankery
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>>332312513
Is that why turning on full shadows rapes the framerate?
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>>332312323
Nah mate. Best armor coming through.
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>>332312513

Yes that's what I forgot to mention. If you have very rigid pieces like steel bracers, they don't need weightmap transforms, and can simply be anchored at the previous bone joint of the hierarchy. It takes much less processing power and I believe that a lot of the pieces in Morrowind that are not soft do actually do that.

And things like trousers that go underneath leg armor have segmented rendering where the parts that go under the armor aren't rendered when armor is equipped on top.
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>>332312681
Guess I'll DL it for my next Vegas playthrough, then. Currently doing one where I only use an Armored Vault 21 jumpsuit as my armor.
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No love for power armor?
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>>332312801
Cool armor indeed, too bad you blew it by posting belf female.
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>>332312801
>That's not possible in-game
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>>332308972
What would you wear then faggot? some impractical pile of scrap like out of elder scrolls.
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>>332312907

Not for that obsolete crap. T-51 all the way. Or original Advanced Mk2
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>>332312891
You should also get the one that makes the actual coat not flare out around the legs, makes it closer to the legs and look more natural.

There's also a problem where the helmets are considered 'heavy' armor, even though all other helmets, including power armor, are 'light' armor, so you can' jury rig riot gear helmets with other helmets. There's a mod that fixes that too, and removes the annoying night light filter. Highly suggested.
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Best souls armor coming through
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>>332313132
Appreciated, anon. I'll be sure to keep it in mind.
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>>332313009

> T-60 series has better stats than T-51
> T-60 is obsolete
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>>332313040
Top Tier Tank Twatter Tarkus
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>>332311861
It wasn't even male to being with.
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>>332311981
>Canteen right where your leg needs to bend

0/10
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>>332312552
Fallout 4 looks like my asshole.

Skyrim for all its faults looked better in every way
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>>332308347

Try again
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>>332311515
It doesn't explain why those armors from their respective cultures are STILL bland and uninspired. A game called Age of Conan has the same dilemma with multiple cultures yet it's infinitely better in that regard.
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>>332313349
I still don't like T-60. It just seems like Bethesda wanted to shove in an extra set of Power Armor for no real reason. On top of that, if it's supposed to be better than the T-51, why does it look like the outdated T-45? Shouldn't it be an upgraded T-51 in appearance?

I think T-60 would be a lot better if it was T-48 and was developed by the Brotherhood, with stats that are better than the T-45 but still worse than T-51.
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>ywn migrate to another planet and kill off all alien life to replace it with Earth's
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>>332314354
>>think T-60 would be a lot better if it was T-48 and was developed by the Brotherhood
Was going to say this. Brotherhood would definitely have the capabilities of upgrading all their shitty T-45ds to something better, and that would be the T-60
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>>332312907
>t-45 has plating around vital sections like abdomen and the tube like shit in the back
>t-60 lacks protection in abdominal area and exposes vital components on back but has bigger shoulders
>t-60 is suppose to be an improvement over t-45 and t-51
is fallout going full WoW
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>>332308347
So pretty much a dork souls thread.
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>>332314387
im really liking third one alot
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>>332309764
>armor thread
>post clothes

get your memeborn out of here
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>>332314387
The first and third suit are delicious. Fourth is badass. I'm not feeling much for the second, though.
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>>332312907
T-45, T-51, and X-01, sure. T-60 shit the fucking bed though, terrible overdesigned shit.
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Wish they had stuck to the concept art for Planetside 2. Shit looks delicious
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>>332315647
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>>332314860
>>332315204
They also have freaking Space Marines too
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not vidya, just bumpin with one my favs
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>>332312907
>T60

No love for the garbage armor. Now step aside, best power armor is coming through.
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>>332311428
>game's armour progression spans the entire length of the middle-ages, starting with viking helmets, later crusader gear and finishing with early 16th century plate.

This really rustles my tassets.
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>>332316287
>not vidya
isnt that from Dragon Age?

>>332315647
Vehicle concept art was significantly better (That Prowler that's not a fucking box) but I like the current armors for the most part instead of Neotokyo type sci fi style.
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>>332316570
>(That Prowler that's not a fucking box)
Kek, yeah. Guess you're right.
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>>332316287
was that ever in game or just concept art?
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>>332316287
That's from Dragon Age silly anon.
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>mfw I always liked fanservice for both male and female characters
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Is it wrong to love retarded spike armor?
I always liked stupid over designed spike armor
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>>332312951
You can get some similar looks. A red tabard with those one golden slut legs would be pretty close.
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>>332309876
>Oblivion

JUST
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for all its flaws i do miss composite amor online.
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>>332316893
How fucking long is his neck?
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>>332317212
copy that
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I'm a fan of the wacky Lost Planet designs.
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>>332317185
I still have SWGEmu somewhere, should really get back to playing it. Know if Stormtrooper armor is any good?

I feel like starting a Star Wars vidya thread now.
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>>332311467
Knights of the nine was fucking top

Having to complete a pilgrimage along with a set of trials to earn your crusader armor was fucking sweet.
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>>332308586
This.
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>>332311923
Best part of DaS2
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>>332317016
I mean why wouldn't you like them? Spikes on shoulders can kinda be useful and you can launch yourself at people.
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>>332317441
Hell no. the emu copies pre CU to a fault. No scout armor and stormtrooper armor is useless. I think it has RIS and bounty hunter armor though.
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What's better than a Skeleton Knight? A Skeleton Knight in Shining Armor!
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>>332317379
>nevec armor
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>>332317643
>No scout armor and stormtrooper armor is useless
Damn.

>I think it has RIS and bounty hunter armor though
That's nice, at least.
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>>332316445
But anon, that's not T-51b.
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Modified version of the Mjolnir Mk. V, with Halo 4's undersuit. Art by Tekka Croe from Deviantart.
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>>332309513
>not posting his alt and best costume
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I don't what the armor is called.
But I'm a sucker for armor that has one shoulder plate/covers one arm entire body except the other hand
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>>332311757
lamellar shills get out
laminar a best
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>>332318059
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.
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>>332318087
>that gap between legs and feet
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>>332318451
Baggy pants and a cardboard box does not constitute armor.
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>>332318396
Do you mean from behind the shins? I think it's supposed to allow for a greater range of motion. Perhaps an oversight by the artist but I only noticed it now since you brought it up.
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>>332318595
It does when you can regenerate faster than bullets can damage you
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>>332313349

T-60 isn't canon because Fallout 4 is shit. And as someone else already said, it makes no sense for its design to be based on a model that's older than T-51. If Bethesda wanted to shoehorn in their fancy new power armor type, it should have been an upgrade of T-51.

It makes sense for Enclave's R&D to branch out and make their own Advanced MarkII, but how does it make sense for WestTek to branch out of T-45d to make a successor for the superior T-51b?
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I'm also a big fan of Spartan Locke's armor on Halo 5.
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>>332308347
Personal favorite.
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>>332320074
That ridiculously long flamberge shatters all plausibility.
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>>332320574
It's a dumbed down flamberge, what do you expect?
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>>332320574
>>332320675
It's more like a zweihänder with the blade shape of a flamberge which is weird, but not that fucked up.

Dark Souls is responsible for far greater atrocities than this.
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>>332320574
>ridiculously long
? It's just fine.
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>>332308583

The shield looked better in oblivion but the helmet is really cool in skyrim. Reminds me of the armor of that Spaniard bad guy from narnia
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>>332309876

How'd they manage to fuck up the coolest set of armor in skyrim? It's like they took the best parts of glass and threw them out
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>>332320797
I should add for clarity's sake that a flamberge is pretty much any sword with a wavey blade; that includes zweihänders. The version pictured is always way too wavey.

Pic related is a historical example.
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>>332321163
I think it looks better with the exception of the glass part, they look like some sort of ore now instead of actual glass. Maybe it's because the armor is made of malachite now.
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>>332311467
I just got to reading about Pelinal Whitestrake last night actually. Jesus Christ TES has some good shit, he fucking killed an elf king by gnawing his throat out and was constantly drenched in dried elf blood. Truly the hero our species deserves
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>>332309739
>Skyrim Dremora are literally just BLACK dark elves with red face tattoos and horns
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>>332321336
Personal reference, I like it because it looks like a longer version of pic related.
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>>332321785
I still think it's really cool and it's definitely one of the less crazy weapons in DS. I'm a sucker for flamberge blades any day of the week.
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>>332308347
Every helmet in oblivion is so freaking shit
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>>332321575
I'm sure there's a mod to fix that. Speaking of mods, did anyone ever got around to adding Mehrune Dagon's Oblivion planes into Skyrim?
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>>332322149
Letting argonians and khajiit wear boots and helmets that didn't have a reason to be open faced was the worst.
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>>332308586
It's shit
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Crynet's multiplayer fatsuit is best fatsuit.
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>>332311586
Kill yourself.
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Bonemold and Indoril armors were a best. I miss Morrowind so friggin' much.
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Best Souls armor
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>>332323239
edgy
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>not loving your waifu
>not wearing the warm and constant embrace of your waifu

It's like you don't want the true souls experience.
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>>332323239
>la parka P2 costume
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>>332322706
Go back to /stg/
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>>332321541
Uh, where did you read that? And yeah TES has some good lore, Bethesda does it little justice.
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>>332322860
>mfw we live in this version of the universe where Elder Scrolls online is shit and not a glorious massively multiplayer Morrowind
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I'm glad they made silver, but now I miss gold; oh well, at least it will match with more armors now.
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>>332323747
Average amount of system ram when Morrowind was released was 128MB.
Average amount of system ram when Oblivion was released was 1024MB.

Morrowind has open towns, but Oblivions towns are closed of instances.
Levitate spell was not implemented in Oblivion because of this.

Do go and kill yourself.
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>>332311185
There's nothing better, and this upsets him.
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>>332323786
Trust in OpenMW, friend. Some russian guy is making good progress on a multiplayer mod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfpJxUFev8
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Best Souls armor here
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>>332323335
>Not wanting to be a spooky skeleton while invading people
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>>332324120
Okay, killing myself now because Bethesda can somehow manage to do less with more. What should I write on my suicide note?
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>>332324025
That armour looks good but the bow's fucking retardedly thick
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>>332321541
>Truly the hero our species deserves

Pelinal wasn't even human. He was practically a golem using the Amulet of Kings as a power source (heart) that was sent back in motherfucking time to kill the shit out of those ayyleid fucking shits.

All while chanting a name no one had heard yet.

R E M A N
E
M
A
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>>332318802
Gee, It's too bad I just came from Spark Mandrill.
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>>332324643
How does he have a ghost if he was a golem?
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>>332324046
>Still no plume.
>They have the cloth physics for it.
I can't be more angry.
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>>332308495
this is the most basic armor you faggots could drool over
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>>332324576
You should kill yourself for being a shill and a faggot.

Bethesda has taken the path of simplifying the core game but making the graphics more appealing to kids.

If you consider what Fallout 4 is, then Skyrim 2 is more likely to happen than elder scrolls 6...

And if Bethesda name it Elder scrolls 6 it will most certainly be just a more braindead version of Skyrim.
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>>332323786
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>>332311981
basic riot gear looked the best
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Real life armour, Holy Roman Emperors Ferdinand II's badass armour.
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>>332325517
If you somehow arrived to the conclusion that I'm a shill because I sited console limitations as a possible reason why Bethesda changed how armour is worn, then I think you should kill yourself.
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i always liked sam's armor even tho you can't wear it
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>>332325751
MMO tier cerimonial shit
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>>332323767
I read it in the song of Pelinal books

>>332324643
I thought he was an avatar of Shor and generally looked, acted like, and was identifiable as a rather unstable human? Who the fuck knows, all he is for sure is proof the gods love humans and hate elven cunts
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>>332325231
I don't even know, man. The name Pelinal is itself a corruption of a word that means "star-made knight" which suggests he was created by the Magna Ge. The Magna Ge (the children of Magnus/star orphans) being those who created the stars in the sky when they journeyed back to Aetherius by tearing holes in Mundus. The sun itself is the greatest portal to Aetherius and was created by Magnus.
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>>332325751
>Google 'Holy Roman Emperors Ferdinand II's armour.'
>Save like 10 pics
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>>332325751
>Holy Roman Emperor
>neither Holy nor Roman
laugh every time
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Armor is for faggots.
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>>332325751
>>332326231
this armor is all fancy and shit but did they ever use it in battle
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>>332326336
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>>332326415
That doesn't matter, shut up.
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>>332326231
>dat codpiece on the third one
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>>332326415
>>332326584
Didn't the Japanese have some pretty decked out armors into battle? Horns and shit?
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>>332314054
i would like to shove my peepee into Fallout 4 ;)
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>>332318087
>Deviant artist makes a better modernized Mark V than 343.
wew lad
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>>332326415
>>332326584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6uO8fsgP0
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>>332326703
>that one British(I think) armor with obscene hand motions for opponents
Classic shitposter
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>>332326832
Is that seriously the Mark V in Halo 5? Seriously?
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>>332325901
I arrived to the conclusion that you are a shill because you are shilling for Bethesda with your implying that the amount of data being streamed in Morrowind is smaller than in Oblvivion.

Bethesda did not compromise and save anything by reducing the complexity of armor, but were dumbing down armor for their targeted demographic.
Even if they were saving anything, average PC today has 4GB of ram.

Get cancer corporate drone.
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>>332326832
Meanwhile Mark IV looks baller. I don't know how they managed to not fuck it up.
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>>332325751

JUST
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>>332326415
Nah, simple breast plates and chainmail, but most didn't wear much. The commander's might have had something fancy, but he just road around on a horse near the very back overseeing stuff.
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I always loved the Roman aesthetic, they nailed to oppressor look 2000 years before men invented jackboots
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>>332327326
Forgot my pic

Scaled armour is the shit
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>>332308586
Anything as nice as that in DaS3?
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>>332308786
Why does he look like Black Luster Soldier?
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>>332327203
>Mark IV helmet looks more like Mark V than H5's MkV Helmet.
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>>332327435
What about Byzantine cavalry?
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>>332310141
Mah nigga gw1 classes were all stylish as fuck
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>>332327093
Yup, and if you say it looks like shit 343 apologists will tell you stop being so entitled.
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>>332320074
My nigger
That helmet was the shit, it went with literally everything and gave whatever you put it with a lot more personality.
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>>332327093
Hope you like what they did with Mark VI too.
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>>332312784
GOAT armour, the fact its factionless and has green lenses makes it awesome. You are the Courier not some NCR pussy.
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>>332328296
Also this is how the Nightfall/ODST armor was going to look and is how it looked in the beta.
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>>332328742
And this is how it looks in the full release.
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Sickest armor of all time coming through
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>>332320074
good taste
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>>332327906
My nigger, we need more cataphracts in this thread

Though frankly I always preferred Western Rome over Byzantium
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In general, do people prefer realistic armor or fantasy?

I prefer realistic myself because I like the idea of functionality and some fantasy armor can get over-designed.
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>>332328851
Why
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>>332328851
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>>332329134
I prefer realistic, nearly 100% of the time when designers get too fantastical it ends up looking like shit. I mean some of this hideous nonsense in this thread I swear to Christ
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>>332315105
my nigger
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>>332328851
Fucking nothing is sacred, not even my favorite go-to helmet of all time
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>>332329134
Realistic, because it looks generic, bland, and not eye catching. Meaning that, I'm playing as a non special person that wears a chosen armor. And being a non chosen person if I somehow surpass that chosen fancy hero guy, it will be the best feeling in the world.
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>>332328851
343 could've just recycled the helmet from Reach and I'd have been fine with it, they nailed it in that game.

But this, just why.
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The best clan
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>>332326336
What game?

>>332326584
Ceremonial armor is pansy shit. Function > form.
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>>332329134
I like both, also like slut armor as well.
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>>332329134
In a fantasy game some silliness is permitted, but when they go all out and make some goofy looking shit that would kill any horse you tried to ride, get you stuck in every doorframe, be unable to stand back up if knocked down, gives you like 40% range of motion, etc that's just too much.
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>>332329989
>Not gangrel
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>>332328851
Proof that in the beta the armor looked like the render
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>>332330403
And heres the helmet
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>>332308586
Looks shit in-game
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>>332328742
>>332328851
>>332330403
>>332330526
How do you manage to finally make 1 good armor design then completely backtrack on it and ruin it, making a steaming pile of shit
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>>332330362
Are you a fucking moron. Are you seriously retarded. Is your taste that bad? Is it possible? Did a malk do something to you in the past that made you bitter? THE MAN SAID ITS THE BEST CLAN. And its Malkavian alright. So stop saying this stuff on the internet. On this website.
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>>332316083
>>332314387
>>332316083
I actually like Beyond Earth with the rising tides expansion. Too bad it won't get another one.
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>>332329567
Well 343 didn't actually design the Reach ODST armor, Bungie did as Bungie was still the Halo devs for Reach but it was their last game.
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>>332330683
What an ugly piece of shit thanks for ruining the thread family
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>>332322860
>I miss Morrowind so friggin' much.
So go play it
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>>332327203
>>332328742
>>332328851
Case and point as to why 343 needs to stop trying to shove their shitty ideas into designs, when they take most of the inspiration/design from the source material it turns out good, when they decide to fuck with it it results in utter garbage.
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>>332330874
Say what you want about Civ BE and BERT, but those games have some real nice unit and building design
I like the black and orange look of supremacy the most with all the geometric shapes and such
But I would be a liar if I wouldn't say that the rest look real nice as well
The only one that looks rather bland is the Purity Harmony hybrid
But Harmony and Purity hybrid is in itself an abomination of a concept
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>>332331349
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>>332331618
The SABR will remain my favourite
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>>332331064
I know it was a joint project full well

That's why it rustles me so much that they forgot what big brother taught them
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>>332330683
If you remove the hood, wolf pelt and made it a little less fattening it would be pretty decent but it wouldn't be assassins creed without over designed stealth characters.
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>wearing armour
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I've honestly always loved the design of the Dreadnaught armor (don't you fuckin dare mention the T7 redo). Was one of the first armor sets where I just sat there looking and inspecting someone who had it.

>fondest memory of the armor was someone with corrupted ashbringer in AV
>charged right in, destroying me and 2 others
>10/10 would get destroyed again.
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>>332318087
Always liked the Mk.V.
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>>332332492
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>>332323335
Kind of the point.
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>>332323430
Out of all the sets in DS1, this is one of the two I'd like to see reimagined in DS3 the most. I feel like the DS1 version didn't quite do the concept art justice.

Pic related; my favourite concept armour.
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>>332324046
The one in DaS was never gold to begin with, it's a replica. Only the real Ornstein armor was gold.
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>>332308495
This and fluted armor are the only reasons I played DeS and DaS
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>>332323335
>Armor of the covenant that invades other player's worlds with the sole intent of killing them to claim their humanity
>Practices the art of lifedrain which involves directly tearing humanity from a victim's soul
Yeah edgy is kind of their ideal m8.
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>>332312784
>>332328638
>best armor
>FORGIVE ME MAMA
at this point you might as well get DAMAGED tattooed on your forehead
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>>332309739

>oblivion's daedric armor looked worse than morrowind

k e k
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>>332333218
Jesus christ the middle one is perfect. And now they could eve add the cloak. Also can't believe they went with the more generic helmet design, the left 2 look awesome.
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>>332327203
Not as good looking as this Mark IV.
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>>332310404
>which worked better in some cases (daedric)
What the fuck, the daedric armor in MW was amazing, but complete trash in the sequels
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>>332333794
I still think the final version looks fantastic.
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>>332334117
Don't get me wrong I love the final version too but the concept is overall more unique and interesting I think.
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>>332334091
I've never liked the daedric armour in any of them. Oblivion probably had the worst looking armours though. That Oblivion glass armour was a huge eyesore
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>>332333794
You know it, my nigga. There's something really unsettling about frog-mouth style helmets. The lack of a clear head shape definitely makes them seem more sinister.
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>>332322860

I think dragonborn did the chitin and bonemold armors justice.
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>>332334091
I got you covered, my n'wah.
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>>332334117
Helmet is best part. Shield looks like a toy.
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>>332308347
>the chassis of a cyborg
>some babylonian shit
>whatever who cares YOU CAN DO ANYTHING GO ANYWHERE BUY THE DLC
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>>332308347
One of my favourites. Jian scum though.
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>>332332713
I have the same disposition toward Bonescythe. Fuggin' gawjiss.
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>>332334687
They look fantastic. They look like Mayan gods or something.
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>>332308972
spot the pleb
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>>332334786
My nig.
EYE gear looks amazing.
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>>332334658
Hello muthsera I have come bearing autism.

There are numerous problems with the bonemold armour in Dragonborn. First of all; they look like bone armour, not bonemold. Bonemold is a plaster-like substance made out of bones that may or may not be shaped using the shells of the insectoids inhabiting Vvardenfell. Another issue is that Raven Rock is supposed to be a Redoran settlement, but the guards not only wear the default Bonemold Helmet rather than the Redoran one, they also carry shields that look nothing like the Redoran house shields. The final problem is the complete lack of daedric script on the armour that played no small part in making them look cool back in Morrowind. Script that actually meant something, afaik, though I can't remember what.

Pic related; Redoran on the left.
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>>332334687
the masks were the best, like something actual wicked creatures like daedra lords would wear. Intimidating yet also gives you a sense of their culture. Then come Oblivion where they all wear repurposed rusty plates made to appeal to teenage boys
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>>332320074
I always thought the the heads one the royal knights themselves were too big. It made them look like teenagers.
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>>332334786
>jian "armor"
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>>332309764
I wish this version was avalaible in game.
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>>332333218
Jesus christ that is beautiful
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>>332335201

desu I really thought the redoran guard helmets in morrowind looked silly... I couldn't take them as seriously as hlaalu guards
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>>332309739
I just don't understand how both Oblivion and Skyrim can have such ugly and blurry textures for Dremora. Look at those raised eyebrows on Morrowind dremora, not even he can believe this shit.
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every armor in rimring is literally uninteresting cancer
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>>332308495
thats like the most boring dark souls armor, and that game has some boring armor
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>>332313009
t60 looks so much better than t51.
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>>332311148
No they don't. I played the living fuck out of Morrowind and Oblivion. Oblivion just tried to replace the Dwemer with Aylids flat out. Aylids had a slightly different description but it was basically the same thing since elven weapons and light armor was 'based on' aylid design in the game lore books. Aylids were the same thing but "we changed the story about them a little, buy our knights of the 9 dlc! they use magic instead of steam! the ruins are a different texture mesh!"
I don't know I felt like the aylids were a huge let down.
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>>332315647
4th faction scum
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>>332333218
Oh shit son it did make a return.

Looks kinda weird though. Maybe because female character.
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>>332336067
I still think those arms look like worms.
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>>332334687
>illegal unless insane

I know it's just fluff, but it would be pretty funny if this was implemented in-game.

Ordinators would periodically stop you and ask you questions, and if the answer wasn't retarded enough, they'd attack.
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>>332325936
L I T E R A L L Y
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>>332336259
Definitely. Morrowind had a lot of cool details that most people missed (including me), like pic related.
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>>332336336
Nah, that is in ACU and Sam's is a 1 solid piece. Not some airshit carrier.
>>332325936
Bruh that knife mount doe.
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>>332336595
>Sam's is a 1 solid piece.
source
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>>332316083

>Purity

Mah nigga.
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>>332310806
That's not a video game.
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>>332308786
This is knee-nickels-tier armor design.

This faggot will get stuck on EVERYTHING.
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>>332336450
>a lot of cool details

>lorefag shit that anyone else wouldn't notice/care about

okay
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>>332337095
So what you're saying is they aren't details?
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>>332325751
How the fuck did he see?
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>>332337189
What I'm saying is they aren't cool.
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Toppest tier armor for 3U, hands down, though I prefer the Z variant.
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>>332337506
>DS2's posterboy armor set had to be in a different game to not look like garbage
What a pathetic game.
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>>332312784
I just started playing new vegas.
is this in the game or is it a mod?
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>>332337220
He probably never wore it. Or if he did it was for ceremonial purposes. No one wearing armour looking like that has to be within ten miles of an actual battle.
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bone armor best armor
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>>332338008
It's in the Honest Hearts DLC. You find it in a cave.
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>>332336450
>I am generally obsessed with non-arbitrary patterns and details that can be linked to some context.
I know 'autism' is thrown around a lot, but I think it might actually be appropriate here.
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>>332329134

I like both but fantasy can quickly get over the line for me.
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>>332336907
To start off, the "armor" posted in reply to >>332325936 is not an legitimate plate carrier and is meant for paintball, as can be found by reverse image searching. That is also a front view of the vest and from the picture of Sam we can see that is carrier has no side straps or gap in the fabric/mesh.
In pic-related you can see that while there is a tiny unbalance at the bottom of the carrier, it has no straps and is a solid piece, most likely sewn together. The one strap that we do see on Sam's armor is a strap-like strap that he would use for hanging stuff.
Something that more closely resembles Sam's vest is this: https://www.militaryuniformsupply.com/condor-quick-release-plate-carrier-black
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>>332338612
nice! thanks
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>>332338594
This basically. These sets wernt made for battle, with all that gilding it was probably brittle as fuck anyway, they were made for show, they represented power and wealth, as well as showing off the fact that you had the skill to make it.
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>>332338775
Also
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>>332323467
Underrated post
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>>332320074
I really liked the helm and legs but i couldn't really find any chest piece that fit with it
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Haven't seen any Witcher armors.
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>>332327450
Apparently it is in DaS3 too.
I saw a video of it in a late boss-fight.
I don't have a link though
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>>332325751

That's not the armor of Emperor Ferdinand II tho.
It belonged to the Duke of Parma.
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>>332333304
I never realized how Garo Ornstein was
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>>332336450
Seriously love cool shit like this. Visual world building was always my favorite thing about Bethesda back then.
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>>332339251
http://imgur.com/a/8ptTC

Here's an album of a whole bunch of armours. Not all of them, but most.
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>>332330583
It looks fine in-game. It looks shit on the Chosen Undead in-game. All it does is give you Artorias' model and shrink it, not put his armor over yours approriately. It makes it look like your limbs are pencil thin. Just replace the arms and legs with Silver Knight set and it looks fantastic, though.
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>>332339780
Neat, thanks.
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>>332337220
With the eyes, anon.
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>>332339780
Holy shit battle pope gear.
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>>332339780
>Artorias' entire set is in the game
>It somehow survived who knows how fucking long, despite already being half eroded by the abyss

Okay, now, that's retarded. I love Artorias, and it's great that his sword is in there, along with his disciples and shit, but this is just blatant fanservice. Maintaining a sword for centuries? Sure, I'll buy that. Maintaining an entire set of armor, but not just that, NOT restoring it and leaving it EXACTLY as eroded as it was before, no more no less, for centuries? No. This is some DaS2 levels of fanservice.
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>>332340209
we battle pope meta now.
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>>332308972
Hello hipster. Please show me your special individual cool armor.
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>>332339667
Sure?
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>>332339780

Still has the chicken legs.
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>>332339780
Holy shit it's back, my dick
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>>332329134
Most armor should be realistic. That way, when you see fantastic armor that has a legend behind why it looks the way it does, it has more of an effect.

Crazy is dull when the norm.
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>>332317604
>I mean why wouldn't you like them? Spikes on shoulders can kinda be useful and you can launch yourself at people.

Because even if you have a premise such as magic or a suspension of physics in the case of having dragons or zombies existing, it harms suspension of disbelief if other rules are broken.

Rules such as a body part has to be covered by the armour for it to actually protect you. Or rules such as if there is a giant piece of metal stick off your shoulder an enemy weapon will slam into it and knock you off balance.
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>>332312750
look at his drawings of dwemer though, they look more like the oblivion design
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The poster boy set is looking pretty good, though the proportions are kinda weird because small female character.
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>>332318773
>It does when you can regenerate faster than bullets can damage you

That is still not armour. Armour would stop the bullets from damaging you in the first place. Otherwise it is not armour. It's just a costume.
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>>332318183
You'd call that useless or stupid
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>>332325751

"Holy" "Roman" "Empire"
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>>332326773
Horns are usually the sign of a cuckold, in the West at least don't know about Japan that and horns are impractical as fuck because your enemy can easily grab it.
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>>332329134
>In general, do people prefer realistic armor or fantasy?

Realistic. But I don't think most designers know enough about armour to do that, so they cover it up by doing something ridiculous.
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>>332339780
Holy shit i need to find out where to get this armor because i want it.

I hope it's decent stat wise.
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>>332318183
I forget the name too, but I know it was in the CaS in Soul Cal 5.
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>>332342158
>I hope it's decent stat wise.

Fashion souls conquers all, mein neger.
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>>332342119
Look how fucking happy 19 is. He fucking loves being a helmet. Good for him.
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Most pieces of armour in Oblivion or Skyrim aren't very good. Half of them are outright terrible, the others have one or two serious flaws or nonsensical parts.
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>>332342321
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>>332337093
I hope your mom is raped and murdered
>by a nigger
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>>332311586
Such as?
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>>332326336
>pants still on
impostor
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>come to discuss armor in vidya
>find a bunch of TES bullshit
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>>332342260
Yeah i always tried to find a good mix of fashionable and somewhat practical in previous souls games. I would love to go pure fashion but i feel too gimped so i need at least a couple of pieces of good armor as well.

The really good thing about DS3 is that you can't upgrade armor at all anymore, so hopefully a lot of armors are all close enough in stats that you really can wear whatever the fuck you want. Some people seem to be mad at the removal of upgrading armor but to me it seems like a great change.
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>>332332492
conan wore armour sometimes
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>>332342441
saved
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>>332340389
That's true but if it was an option to have it in the game by just porting it over or not having it at all, I'm glad they put it in.
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>>332320074
Lol dickhead
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gud old times, where dev's actually tried
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>>332342650
How can Bethesda even compete?
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>>332311757
gr8 song
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>>332333578
having a hard time understanding where you're coming from
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>>332318164
Agreed
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Posting the best Witcher 3 set
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>>332343210
>WOW armor
>good
>Stick more spikes and skulls on them!!! and make those pauldrons bigger so we ca stick bigger spikes on them!!!


Oh anon you are hilarious.
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>>332342441
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>>332343607
literally the armor version of this
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>>332308347
>let's talk about armor in vidya
in that case:
WoW armors>all other gaem armorZ
deal with it.
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>>332344176
Stop, you're upsetting him.
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this one
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>>332336067
God damn. Dark Souls 3 is looking like a greatest hits collection now.

HYPE.
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>>332344263
Anon you do understand that not all rangers would have that written on their helmets right? its like calling all WW2 helmets retarded and edgy just because some soldier painted skulls or other shit on them.
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>used it as the basis of an armor set for a larp
>mfw it lost 1/4th the armor points it's worth during eval because the mod said he hates the new fire emblem games
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GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS
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>>332344583
>double cry.png
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Anyone who plays WoW has seen this 10 billion times and with good reason
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>>332339780
TARKUS
A
R
K
U
S
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>>332344583
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>>332339780
>No Giants
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>>332314354

Now now, that would have made sense. And we can't have that in Bethesda Fallout.
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>Pretty much every DaS1 set made it
>Meme armor was dropped
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>>332335618
Big mistake, Redoran guards were the most lethal. I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of one of their blades.
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>>332327283
Not true. Leaders were almost always on the front line, generally not so close they were actively fighting, but they had to verbally give orders. Many actively participated in battle though.
All save cowards were within arrow range, which is half the reason they were always incredibly heavily armored.
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>>332308347
>those wall and ground textures

Jesus christ, we N64 now?
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>>332345196
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>>332334091
That shit looks retarted
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>>332345515
But Solaire's set is in Anon.
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>>332345515
There is nothing wrong with Giants Armor.
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What's qith video games and pauldrons

If you look at historical armor there is barely anything representing the huge ass pauldrons we see in vidya
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>>332334091
Overall I like Skyrim's armor design the best but Morrowind's colors the best.
Thankfully you can mod the shit out of Skyrim.
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>>332345834

See

>>332344892


Solaire and the whole 'Praise the Sun' deal was a meme, but you rarely saw people wearing his set.
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>>332346076
THEY LOOK COOL, ANON
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Is anyone else really put off by edgelord turbo spike armor?
Aesthetically it's shit, but practically it's nothing but extra weight and more things to get snagged on shit.
Take >>332309739 for example, some could simply grab hold of one of those shoulder spikes and tip you off balance.
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>>332345065
>>332312801

First paladin set since Lightbringer's that has actually any character. Pretty stoked.
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>>332311923
what set is this?
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>>332310085
That shit is so fucking cool
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10/10 armor
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>>332330874
It really just needs one more big expansion to fix it. BERT was a massive step in the right direction.
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>>332346457
The Drakeblood set
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My God dang favourite.
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>>332324514
my nigga
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>>332346231
>tfw genuinely liked Solaire and the sunbros because I'm a huge Paladin nerd, as well as Paladin Leeroy
>became a meme so now I'm just considered a meme loving fuck
End it all
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>>332346768
I liked Solaire, but Ostrava will always be my favorite version of that character. Unless we're allowing Bloodborne into this, in which case Eileen is my favorite. She's like 50 and she still kicks all kinds of ass.
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I liked Saskia's as far as girl's armor goes.
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>>332329134
Depends on the game, but I generally prefer realistic armor with some fantasy flair added to it.
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Never played the game, but I really like the armor design for lords of the fallen. Im a sucker for this kind of shit.
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I like EYE's armor design in general, but also the little things
>Put on the heavy stuff
>Entire place shakes, dust flies, and the ground cracks when you jump in it
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>>332346768
Don't let them get you down Anon
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>>332346673
thx
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>>332347138
Dude, it does that even if you're wearing light armor.
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>>332347243
O-oh.

I never wore light armor so I didn't even notice.
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>>332329134
Depends on if I'm going with a lot of people. If I'm in a unit, I want utilitarian uniform armor, if I'm going out alone, I don't mind shitty fantasy stuff.
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>>332347102
>"Not even bismuth has this many edges" armor design
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>>332343852
Enhanced Bear is best, the eggshell/brown scheme works really good, and it has a popped collar
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>>332346768
I like Solaire too. Who gives a fuck what people think?

The whole Dark Souls series is looked upon as ''Prepare to die A LOT xD' by the mainstream crowd. Are you going to let that meme ruin your enjoyment too?
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>Solair's armor looks like shit in Dark Souls 3

They could of at least updated it a little instead of just importing it into DS3 with 2's graphics...
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>>332308347
>the franchise is dead
>we never even got to play a single game from the perspective of the Helghan
So much wasted opportunity here.
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>>332344671
The fallen knight in DaS3 looks like a busted up drake knight.

The picture really doesnt make it justice, it looks great in motion with the cloak and the cape swinging and shit.
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>>332331618
>Those final two
What were they thinking? Is this supposed to be MDK? No, even the Coil Suit looked less silly than those tringle Ack ack ack martian heads.
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>>332348039

everything in DaS 3 looks like it came from BloodBorne.
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>>332311493
exactly this
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>>332318087
Tekka draws damn good halo stuff.
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>>332339780
>http://imgur.com/a/8ptTC
thanks mate
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>>332347976
I forget how awesome helghan armor looks
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Where my exosuit brothers at?
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>>332325751
>
>
>
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This entire thread has been wholly pleasant. You're good people sometimes, /v/.
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>>332348039
>helmet with hood

I know what I'm wearing. Loving some heavy clothing on top of armor
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>>332330683
Imaging running around hot as fuck summer italy in this fucking tower of clothing.

Ezio is going to die from exhaustion without 2 hours of putting that on.
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>>332348509
Hello, DUTYfriend.
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Anything in the Immersive Armor mod desu. Those guys did well.
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>>332330683
I think we can all agree that this is the biggest flaw of Brotherhood
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>>332339780
>Brass set is back
>East set
>Alva's set
>Lautrec's set
>IRON FUCKING TARCUS
>all the fucking sets
>all of them
>and then shitloads of new sets

Fuck all the people whining about rehash souls, this will be the Fashion Souls to end all Fashion Souls.

I can't want to make the Smoupe, or BB build with that leather coat and tricorn hat, or making the perfect blend of armors from across all three games. It's all here, motherfuckers, IT'S ALL HERE AND WE CAN HAVE IT ALL!
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>>332309991
It would be perfect in Skyrim if it just had pants.
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It's a little plain, but I liked the armor in Neotokyo.
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>>332349117
Mah nigga

though nothing comes close to the dragonbone ebonsteel armor
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>>332308347
Despite Skyrim being a bit of a hit and miss I did enjoy the Fur armors they had on offer with mods making them even better use in a winter setting. The furhood makes for a very toasty set up for Frostfall.
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>>332349343
>pants
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>>332311981
>It doesnt have the sweet ass Calvary badge on the helmet as the Advance.

I liked that badge
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>>332349480
>horns
How does it feel to be a cuckold?
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>>332335502
As sick as the capes were, I wish there were more armor variants without the cape, like the vanilla Hunter set you pick up in Cathedral ward, or the Old Hunter set/Ornate Hunter set. I would have loves to have the Cainhurst plate without the shoulder cape, or the Butcher's set without the apron (it's a very nice green swallowtail coat under the apron)
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>>332349735
>that pimp as fuck Swedish MaA.
bueno
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>>332311185
>2 weeks
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I always thought the suit from Crysis looked pretty cool, like how the outer... chords looked like muscles and shit.
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>>332349904
step aside, peasantry
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>>332348784
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>>332347506
>"Not even anon has this much edge" armor design
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>>332349571
Weren't all the armors supposed to have something like this going on? A progression of more and more armor to go with the upgrade system?

Sounds like another Bethesda "Streamlining" moment. It's both a shame and a blessing that they've finally streamlined their games into objective garbage with Fallout 4. I can say with certainty that I will never purchase a game with only their name on it again. If Obsidian or another developer with actual fucking talent and/or passion takes on a Bethesda IP, I might pay attention to it, but to me, Bethesda has become synonymous with "Laziness".
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FO4 can get pretty cool with Armor Smith
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Are there any games with sick ass templar armor that is useable by the character?

I know AssCreed has templars but I don't think you can wear their shit.
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>>332348572
fuck off nigger-lover
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>>332350229
Yes?
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>>332347142
here, have the colored version my nigga
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>>332350097
Wut?
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>>332349405
>defend amine tiddies
>>332350024
I always prefered the crysis 1 nanosuit to 2 and 3. The later ones just look fat.
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>>332347142
>>332350319
forgot picture because im retarded
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>>332350295
Would you please inform me as to the identities of any such games that fit that description that you know of?
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>>332349735
I don't understand, they're good for poking out my enemy's eyes in close quarters
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>>332350509
Mount and blade WB, 1257ad Mod
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>it's still not posted
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>>332350587
They are also good for deflecting a sword into your face or getting grabbed/hit with enough force the enemy can snap your neck.
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>>332350715
>>it's still not good
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>>332350706
Cool, thanks anon.
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>>332347976
Grenadier a best, prove me wrong
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>>332350229

wow teutonic knights were fucking huge

that explains why they're such tanks in AoE2
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>>332350860
found the mutie
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>>332350715
It makes you look like a bug. It's shit.
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I always loved the nightingale armor in skyrim
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>>332350587
>downward pointing horns on the side of your head

They are good for literally nothing more than handlebars for your inevitable facefucking. You're basically wearing perfectly formed levers for breaking your neck and decapitating you, because they look cool.

I can't help but feel like giving a man a horned helmet in the middle ages would have been taken as a grave insult, since it's the equivalent of handing a man one of these.
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>>332350956
Whilst that's clearly a case of artistic license (unless there are legit historical sources on teutonics being tall as fuck), I wonder if it could've been that way historically due to the fact that northern europeans are, on average, a fair bit taller than people from spain, southern france and italy.
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>>332350715
>it was
>he didn't check
awkward....
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>>332350715
The enclave's mortal foe!
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>>332350229

I wonder what peasants who knew only lives of farming and the occasional feasts of potatoes and stringy wild game thought when they saw armor like this

Must have been like you or me seeing a dude in cutting edge DARPA power armor
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>>332342158
You get it after beating the penultimate boss. You have to buy it from the hag merchant.
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>>332350753
>>332351171
Heh, alright, I've had my fun

I know horns are purely ceremonial.
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>>332351171
what if you put spikes on the horns

and razor wire on the spikes

and plague rat blood on the razor wire
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>>332351376
It was more like seeing the agents of god himself. Knight hierarchy extended all the way into the orders of angels.

>>332351560
then you're going to catch the plague when you inevitably bump one of your stupid horns into your shoulder, or when you try and take it off and accidentally grab it by the horns. Also, a strike to the horn with a polearm or longsword will still have enough leverage to snap your fucking neck.

A horned helm is basically a wrench. The horn is the handle, and your skull is the nut.
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>>332350956
>>332351191
Look at their feet and body position you autistic fucks, the artist is clearly trying to create perspective
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>>332350041
>That is what we could've gotten
Why did Capcom had to go full retard?
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>>332346076

Even otherwise talented artists often don't understand armor.
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>>332346237
In Samus's case I'm willing to overlook it, since it's scifi and they're clearly not there for protection. They look like some kind of power generators or other technowizardy, instead of the "I'M A HUGE FUCKING RETARD PLEASE SCRATCH THE ITCH ON MY NOSE I LITERALLY CANNOT LIFT MY ARMS" pauldrons you see on WoW armor or 40k.
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>>332339173
dat ass
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>>332352250
I know right? I hate the fact that they rushed this game. Could've become a masterpiece.
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>>332352591
It's pretty good considering he's fighting big game that require him to be fast on his feet and flexible, but it would be shit for anything else historically.

Chainmail is actually really complicated and expensive to make, and doesn't weigh much less than a comparable area of steel plate, it's also more vulnerable to piercing weapons and projectiles. Also, he's got zero neck protection.
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I always wanted some Revan armor.
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>>332348039
holy fucking shit
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>>332330046
Exanima. My GOTY of 2015 or whatever.
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>>332348039
I'd swap the gauntlets and boots for something nicer, but the helmet and chest look GOAT.
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Overwatch design is great
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goat scifi armor
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>>332353028
That's a bird, anon
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Enjoyed this thread.
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I don't even care how impractical it is, I think it looks cool
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>>332313242

Why'd they get rid of the light crystal? It was lore friendly and explained an otherwise BS "vidya gaem" mechanic
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>>332356591

Also did DS2 get rid of scabbards?
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Guild Wars has my all time favorite collection of heavy armor. Lack of good armor is by far the most disappointing part of the massive disappoint that is Guild Wars 2.
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