let's talk about armor in vidya
bumpnig with some of my favorites
dwarven armor in skyrim looked fucking fantastic
I really hate that they took pauldrons out of Elder Scrolls
>>332308495
>>332308495
wow plate armor so original you sure have great taste anon
>>332308786
>>332308347
Morrowind armor makes you a fugin robot.
I loved.
>>332309179
>>332308347
I'm still not sure what the dwemer armor in Oblivion is supposed to represent. A tower?
>>332309513
>>332309739
pauldrons in morrowind looked dumb
oblivion and skyrim are great though
>>332309739
>>332309876
>>332309991
>tfw Great Wroggi will never come back
>>332308347
>>332309876
>>332309991
Why does Morrowind have the most complex outfits in many cases despite having the shittiest graphics?
>>332310085
>No transmog system in MonHun ever
>>332310084
I hate how rough Orcish armour looks in Skyrim. Orcs are supposed to be great blacksmiths
>>332308495
elite knight looks so strange on females
>>332310183
bethesda streamlined the designs, which worked better in some cases (daedric) than others (glass)
>>332310183
At some point Bethesda just stopped trying
>>332310085
MH has great armours all around. Shame most of them have such shit skills I could never use them.Even the unrealistic armours look good, fuck you realism fags.
TES has the WORST and most incoherent art direction when it comes to armor out of any franchise. It feels like they just want to be done with the armor/weapon variety and forget about it.
>>332310183
Console limitations.
Having armour made of layers and multiple parts means more individual objects with their own mesh and texture to be loaded. 5+ individual, layered armour parts or 1 all encompassing suit that can be optimised easier.
Artists might say the having armour as one-piece suits allows for better designs but they're talking shit.
Reminder that Souls posters are the bane of all armor threads
>>332308786
>>332309513
>>332309869
>>332308347
Do they ever explain why in Morrowind Dwarven armor were just disassembled Centurions and then in Oblivion and Skyrim regular suits just pop out of nowhere?
>>332310984
how come you don't like the armor in souls games?
Jesus, this thread just reminds me how fucking terrible Oblivion's armors were.
>>332310881
>console limitations
>when Morrowind was ported on Xbox
>game has chainmail
>game has platemail
>game has no lamellar
dropped
>>332311148
I'm guessing because centurions were so abundant in Morrowind they just made do with what they had, while in Oblivion and Skyrim there once lived Dwemer that made a living making armor for the other races, but it's a stretch.
>>332311292
they weren't all bad
>>332310183
Morrowind was made in an era when Bethesda still gave a shit and wasn't rolling in casual dollars.
>>332310718
One reason is the admixture of all the different cultures in the games. The races usually take inspiration from some real world cultures and tropes, and they're all thrown together. And then you have all the fantasy races with fantasy tropes being tossed into the same universe. I mean Tamirel is basically a bunch of different little fantasy universes being shoved into the same land mass, multiple different pantheons and histories going on.
>>332310881
>Having armour made of layers and multiple parts means more individual objects with their own mesh and texture to be loaded. 5+ individual, layered armour parts or 1 all encompassing suit that can be optimised easier.
Except Morrowind did it on the original Xbox and there is no excuse for Skyrim's laziness.
>>332311292
But compare the amount of data being streamed in Morrowind compared to Oblivion.
Bethesda compromised on layered armour to make more room for other things.
>>332311428
is that like scale mail?
>>332311635
https://youtu.be/Jy7lSEB_NLE?t=45
>>332311467
>female palanil
>>332310183
Thats because you are still wearing your nostalgia goggles, silly. They really aren't any more complex. Perhaps with the exception of the orcish armor.
![fIObLnR[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bHVPpYk.jpg "fIObLnR[1].jpg")
>>332311882
>nostalgia meme
Nice meme
All time favorite armor design.
Find a flaw.
>>332310085
I always liked looking like an Indian chief
>>332311981
>Original perfect ranger armor but with some extra dumb plastic on it.
>>332309991
Looks like The Empire's treasure is growing thinner with each installment.lel budget cuts
>>332311981
Never liked the canteen
Besides that best armor design in the game
>>332312028
When will this be censored for cultural appropriation?
>>332308972
>you have to choose some obscure armor or else it's not cool
>>332311568
Playing the devil's advocate here, but there is a performance impact in layered armor pieces. Every piece is a weightmap-transformed skinned object, and therefore when compared to a naked character, a fully armored one can take the processing power of 3 naked characters just by the animations it performs.
Fortunately we have the PC and skinned meshes are nothing in the grand scheme of performance.
>>332312051
I don't know, I like the extra gear like the bandoleers and canteen. The helmet is better too. The armor plates are kinda unfitting since they're green though.
This more your speed?
>>332312316
I think also armour in Morrowind kind of floated on top of the character model as separate objects whereas armour in Oblivion and Skyrim replace the character mesh with its' own.
>>332311981
I can't, though that's not my favorite armor. Mine is probably what Delta Squad uses.
>>332312323
I'd probably prefer this to the Elite gear if there was some neck protection. Is it unintentional?
Skyrim's washed out color scheme is abysmal. At least that's one thing FO4 actually improved on.
>>332311981
The Canteen on his belt creates a 90° angle with the belt. It ruins what would otherwise be a more harmonious design.
The shoulderpads on the right figure's right shoulder has that WoW-like seethrough thing that makes it look cheap and unfinished.
>>332312539
I think it is, but there's a mod you can get that gives you a neck cover, it's a pretty easy fix.
>>332308347
>dwarven weapons and armor are supposed to be high tech and light
>morrowind fucks this all up because of kookbride wankery
>>332312513
Is that why turning on full shadows rapes the framerate?
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/gwTCuPn.png "latest[1].png")
>>332312323
Nah mate. Best armor coming through.
>>332312513
Yes that's what I forgot to mention. If you have very rigid pieces like steel bracers, they don't need weightmap transforms, and can simply be anchored at the previous bone joint of the hierarchy. It takes much less processing power and I believe that a lot of the pieces in Morrowind that are not soft do actually do that.
And things like trousers that go underneath leg armor have segmented rendering where the parts that go under the armor aren't rendered when armor is equipped on top.
>>332312681
Guess I'll DL it for my next Vegas playthrough, then. Currently doing one where I only use an Armored Vault 21 jumpsuit as my armor.
No love for power armor?
>>332312801
Cool armor indeed, too bad you blew it by posting belf female.
>>332312801
>That's not possible in-game
>>332308972
What would you wear then faggot? some impractical pile of scrap like out of elder scrolls.
>>332312907
Not for that obsolete crap. T-51 all the way. Or original Advanced Mk2
>>332312891
You should also get the one that makes the actual coat not flare out around the legs, makes it closer to the legs and look more natural.
There's also a problem where the helmets are considered 'heavy' armor, even though all other helmets, including power armor, are 'light' armor, so you can' jury rig riot gear helmets with other helmets. There's a mod that fixes that too, and removes the annoying night light filter. Highly suggested.
Best souls armor coming through
>>332313132
Appreciated, anon. I'll be sure to keep it in mind.
>>332313009
> T-60 series has better stats than T-51
> T-60 is obsolete
>>332313040
Top Tier Tank Twatter Tarkus
>>332311861
It wasn't even male to being with.
>>332311981
>Canteen right where your leg needs to bend
0/10
>>332312552
Fallout 4 looks like my asshole.
Skyrim for all its faults looked better in every way
>>332308347
Try again
>>332311515
It doesn't explain why those armors from their respective cultures are STILL bland and uninspired. A game called Age of Conan has the same dilemma with multiple cultures yet it's infinitely better in that regard.
>>332313349
I still don't like T-60. It just seems like Bethesda wanted to shove in an extra set of Power Armor for no real reason. On top of that, if it's supposed to be better than the T-51, why does it look like the outdated T-45? Shouldn't it be an upgraded T-51 in appearance?
I think T-60 would be a lot better if it was T-48 and was developed by the Brotherhood, with stats that are better than the T-45 but still worse than T-51.
>ywn migrate to another planet and kill off all alien life to replace it with Earth's
>>332314354
>>think T-60 would be a lot better if it was T-48 and was developed by the Brotherhood
Was going to say this. Brotherhood would definitely have the capabilities of upgrading all their shitty T-45ds to something better, and that would be the T-60
>>332312907
>t-45 has plating around vital sections like abdomen and the tube like shit in the back
>t-60 lacks protection in abdominal area and exposes vital components on back but has bigger shoulders
>t-60 is suppose to be an improvement over t-45 and t-51
is fallout going full WoW
>>332308347
So pretty much a dork souls thread.
>>332314387
im really liking third one alot
>>332309764
>armor thread
>post clothes
get your memeborn out of here
>>332314387
The first and third suit are delicious. Fourth is badass. I'm not feeling much for the second, though.
>>332312907
T-45, T-51, and X-01, sure. T-60 shit the fucking bed though, terrible overdesigned shit.
Wish they had stuck to the concept art for Planetside 2. Shit looks delicious
>>332315647
>>332314860
>>332315204
They also have freaking Space Marines too
not vidya, just bumpin with one my favs
>>332312907
>T60
No love for the garbage armor. Now step aside, best power armor is coming through.
>>332311428
>game's armour progression spans the entire length of the middle-ages, starting with viking helmets, later crusader gear and finishing with early 16th century plate.
This really rustles my tassets.
>>332316287
>not vidya
isnt that from Dragon Age?
>>332315647
Vehicle concept art was significantly better (That Prowler that's not a fucking box) but I like the current armors for the most part instead of Neotokyo type sci fi style.
>>332316570
>(That Prowler that's not a fucking box)
Kek, yeah. Guess you're right.
>>332316287
was that ever in game or just concept art?
>>332316287
That's from Dragon Age silly anon.
>mfw I always liked fanservice for both male and female characters
Is it wrong to love retarded spike armor?
I always liked stupid over designed spike armor
>>332312951
You can get some similar looks. A red tabard with those one golden slut legs would be pretty close.
>>332309876
>Oblivion
JUST
for all its flaws i do miss composite amor online.
>>332316893
How fucking long is his neck?
>>332317212
copy that
I'm a fan of the wacky Lost Planet designs.
>>332317185
I still have SWGEmu somewhere, should really get back to playing it. Know if Stormtrooper armor is any good?I feel like starting a Star Wars vidya thread now.
>>332311467
Knights of the nine was fucking top
Having to complete a pilgrimage along with a set of trials to earn your crusader armor was fucking sweet.
>>332308586
This.
>>332311923
Best part of DaS2
>>332317016
I mean why wouldn't you like them? Spikes on shoulders can kinda be useful and you can launch yourself at people.
>>332317441
Hell no. the emu copies pre CU to a fault. No scout armor and stormtrooper armor is useless. I think it has RIS and bounty hunter armor though.
What's better than a Skeleton Knight? A Skeleton Knight in Shining Armor!
>>332317379
>nevec armor
>>332317643
>No scout armor and stormtrooper armor is useless
Damn.
>I think it has RIS and bounty hunter armor though
That's nice, at least.
>>332316445
But anon, that's not T-51b.
Modified version of the Mjolnir Mk. V, with Halo 4's undersuit. Art by Tekka Croe from Deviantart.
>>332309513
>not posting his alt and best costume
I don't what the armor is called.
But I'm a sucker for armor that has one shoulder plate/covers one arm entire body except the other hand
>>332311757
lamellar shills get out
laminar a best
>>332318059
Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft.
>>332318087
>that gap between legs and feet
>>332318451
Baggy pants and a cardboard box does not constitute armor.
>>332318396
Do you mean from behind the shins? I think it's supposed to allow for a greater range of motion. Perhaps an oversight by the artist but I only noticed it now since you brought it up.
>>332318595
It does when you can regenerate faster than bullets can damage you
>>332313349
T-60 isn't canon because Fallout 4 is shit. And as someone else already said, it makes no sense for its design to be based on a model that's older than T-51. If Bethesda wanted to shoehorn in their fancy new power armor type, it should have been an upgrade of T-51.
It makes sense for Enclave's R&D to branch out and make their own Advanced MarkII, but how does it make sense for WestTek to branch out of T-45d to make a successor for the superior T-51b?
I'm also a big fan of Spartan Locke's armor on Halo 5.
>>332308347
Personal favorite.
>>332320074
That ridiculously long flamberge shatters all plausibility.
>>332320574
It's a dumbed down flamberge, what do you expect?
>>332320574
>>332320675
It's more like a zweihänder with the blade shape of a flamberge which is weird, but not that fucked up.
Dark Souls is responsible for far greater atrocities than this.
>>332320574
>ridiculously long
? It's just fine.
>>332308583
The shield looked better in oblivion but the helmet is really cool in skyrim. Reminds me of the armor of that Spaniard bad guy from narnia
>>332309876
How'd they manage to fuck up the coolest set of armor in skyrim? It's like they took the best parts of glass and threw them out
>>332320797
I should add for clarity's sake that a flamberge is pretty much any sword with a wavey blade; that includes zweihänders. The version pictured is always way too wavey.
Pic related is a historical example.
>>332321163
I think it looks better with the exception of the glass part, they look like some sort of ore now instead of actual glass. Maybe it's because the armor is made of malachite now.
>>332311467
I just got to reading about Pelinal Whitestrake last night actually. Jesus Christ TES has some good shit, he fucking killed an elf king by gnawing his throat out and was constantly drenched in dried elf blood. Truly the hero our species deserves
>>332309739
>Skyrim Dremora are literally just BLACK dark elves with red face tattoos and horns
>>332321336
Personal reference, I like it because it looks like a longer version of pic related.
>>332321785
I still think it's really cool and it's definitely one of the less crazy weapons in DS. I'm a sucker for flamberge blades any day of the week.
>>332308347
Every helmet in oblivion is so freaking shit
>>332321575
I'm sure there's a mod to fix that. Speaking of mods, did anyone ever got around to adding Mehrune Dagon's Oblivion planes into Skyrim?
>>332322149
Letting argonians and khajiit wear boots and helmets that didn't have a reason to be open faced was the worst.
>>332308586
It's shit
Crynet's multiplayer fatsuit is best fatsuit.
>>332311586
Kill yourself.
Bonemold and Indoril armors were a best. I miss Morrowind so friggin' much.
Best Souls armor
>>332323239
edgy
>not loving your waifu
>not wearing the warm and constant embrace of your waifu
It's like you don't want the true souls experience.
>>332323239
>la parka P2 costume
>>332322706
Go back to /stg/
>>332321541
Uh, where did you read that? And yeah TES has some good lore, Bethesda does it little justice.
>>332322860
>mfw we live in this version of the universe where Elder Scrolls online is shit and not a glorious massively multiplayer Morrowind
I'm glad they made silver, but now I miss gold; oh well, at least it will match with more armors now.
>>332323747
Average amount of system ram when Morrowind was released was 128MB.
Average amount of system ram when Oblivion was released was 1024MB.
Morrowind has open towns, but Oblivions towns are closed of instances.
Levitate spell was not implemented in Oblivion because of this.
Do go and kill yourself.
>>332311185
There's nothing better, and this upsets him.
>>332323786
Trust in OpenMW, friend. Some russian guy is making good progress on a multiplayer mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfpJxUFev8
Best Souls armor here
>>332323335
>Not wanting to be a spooky skeleton while invading people
>>332324120
Okay, killing myself now because Bethesda can somehow manage to do less with more. What should I write on my suicide note?
>>332324025
That armour looks good but the bow's fucking retardedly thick
>>332321541
>Truly the hero our species deserves
Pelinal wasn't even human. He was practically a golem using the Amulet of Kings as a power source (heart) that was sent back in motherfucking time to kill the shit out of those ayyleid fucking shits.
All while chanting a name no one had heard yet.
R E M A N
E
M
A
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>>332318802
Gee, It's too bad I just came from Spark Mandrill.
>>332324643
How does he have a ghost if he was a golem?
>>332324046
>Still no plume.
>They have the cloth physics for it.
I can't be more angry.
>>332308495
this is the most basic armor you faggots could drool over
>>332324576
You should kill yourself for being a shill and a faggot.
Bethesda has taken the path of simplifying the core game but making the graphics more appealing to kids.
If you consider what Fallout 4 is, then Skyrim 2 is more likely to happen than elder scrolls 6...
And if Bethesda name it Elder scrolls 6 it will most certainly be just a more braindead version of Skyrim.
>>332323786
>>332311981
basic riot gear looked the best
Real life armour, Holy Roman Emperors Ferdinand II's badass armour.
>>332325517
If you somehow arrived to the conclusion that I'm a shill because I sited console limitations as a possible reason why Bethesda changed how armour is worn, then I think you should kill yourself.
i always liked sam's armor even tho you can't wear it
>>332325751
MMO tier cerimonial shit
>>332323767
I read it in the song of Pelinal books
>>332324643
I thought he was an avatar of Shor and generally looked, acted like, and was identifiable as a rather unstable human? Who the fuck knows, all he is for sure is proof the gods love humans and hate elven cunts
>>332325231
I don't even know, man. The name Pelinal is itself a corruption of a word that means "star-made knight" which suggests he was created by the Magna Ge. The Magna Ge (the children of Magnus/star orphans) being those who created the stars in the sky when they journeyed back to Aetherius by tearing holes in Mundus. The sun itself is the greatest portal to Aetherius and was created by Magnus.
>>332325751
>Google 'Holy Roman Emperors Ferdinand II's armour.'
>Save like 10 pics
>>332325751
>Holy Roman Emperor
>neither Holy nor Roman
laugh every time
Armor is for faggots.
>>332325751
>>332326231
this armor is all fancy and shit but did they ever use it in battle
>>332326336
>>332326415
That doesn't matter, shut up.
>>332326231
>dat codpiece on the third one
>>332326415
>>332326584
Didn't the Japanese have some pretty decked out armors into battle? Horns and shit?
>>332314054
i would like to shove my peepee into Fallout 4 ;)
>>332318087
>Deviant artist makes a better modernized Mark V than 343.
wew lad
>>332326415
>>332326584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6uO8fsgP0
>>332326703
>that one British(I think) armor with obscene hand motions for opponents
Classic shitposter
>>332326832
Is that seriously the Mark V in Halo 5? Seriously?
>>332325901
I arrived to the conclusion that you are a shill because you are shilling for Bethesda with your implying that the amount of data being streamed in Morrowind is smaller than in Oblvivion.
Bethesda did not compromise and save anything by reducing the complexity of armor, but were dumbing down armor for their targeted demographic.
Even if they were saving anything, average PC today has 4GB of ram.
Get cancer corporate drone.
>>332326832
Meanwhile Mark IV looks baller. I don't know how they managed to not fuck it up.
>>332325751
JUST
>>332326415
Nah, simple breast plates and chainmail, but most didn't wear much. The commander's might have had something fancy, but he just road around on a horse near the very back overseeing stuff.
I always loved the Roman aesthetic, they nailed to oppressor look 2000 years before men invented jackboots
>>332327326
Forgot my pic
Scaled armour is the shit
>>332308586
Anything as nice as that in DaS3?
>>332308786
Why does he look like Black Luster Soldier?
>>332327203
>Mark IV helmet looks more like Mark V than H5's MkV Helmet.
>>332327435
What about Byzantine cavalry?
>>332310141
Mah nigga gw1 classes were all stylish as fuck
>>332327093
Yup, and if you say it looks like shit 343 apologists will tell you stop being so entitled.
>>332320074
My nigger
That helmet was the shit, it went with literally everything and gave whatever you put it with a lot more personality.
>>332327093
Hope you like what they did with Mark VI too.
>>332312784
GOAT armour, the fact its factionless and has green lenses makes it awesome. You are the Courier not some NCR pussy.
>>332328296
Also this is how the Nightfall/ODST armor was going to look and is how it looked in the beta.
>>332328742
And this is how it looks in the full release.
Sickest armor of all time coming through
>>332320074
good taste
>>332327906
My nigger, we need more cataphracts in this thread
Though frankly I always preferred Western Rome over Byzantium
In general, do people prefer realistic armor or fantasy?
I prefer realistic myself because I like the idea of functionality and some fantasy armor can get over-designed.
>>332328851
Why
>>332328851
>>332329134
I prefer realistic, nearly 100% of the time when designers get too fantastical it ends up looking like shit. I mean some of this hideous nonsense in this thread I swear to Christ
>>332315105
my nigger
>>332328851
Fucking nothing is sacred, not even my favorite go-to helmet of all time
>>332329134
Realistic, because it looks generic, bland, and not eye catching. Meaning that, I'm playing as a non special person that wears a chosen armor. And being a non chosen person if I somehow surpass that chosen fancy hero guy, it will be the best feeling in the world.
>>332328851
343 could've just recycled the helmet from Reach and I'd have been fine with it, they nailed it in that game.
But this, just why.
The best clan
>>332326336
What game?
>>332326584
Ceremonial armor is pansy shit. Function > form.
>>332329134
I like both, also like slut armor as well.
>>332329134
In a fantasy game some silliness is permitted, but when they go all out and make some goofy looking shit that would kill any horse you tried to ride, get you stuck in every doorframe, be unable to stand back up if knocked down, gives you like 40% range of motion, etc that's just too much.
>>332329989
>Not gangrel
>>332328851
Proof that in the beta the armor looked like the render
>>332330403
And heres the helmet
>>332308586
Looks shit in-game
>>332328742
>>332328851
>>332330403
>>332330526
How do you manage to finally make 1 good armor design then completely backtrack on it and ruin it, making a steaming pile of shit
wew
>>332330362
Are you a fucking moron. Are you seriously retarded. Is your taste that bad? Is it possible? Did a malk do something to you in the past that made you bitter? THE MAN SAID ITS THE BEST CLAN. And its Malkavian alright. So stop saying this stuff on the internet. On this website.
>>332316083
>>332314387
>>332316083I actually like Beyond Earth with the rising tides expansion. Too bad it won't get another one.
>>332329567
Well 343 didn't actually design the Reach ODST armor, Bungie did as Bungie was still the Halo devs for Reach but it was their last game.
>>332330683
What an ugly piece of shit thanks for ruining the thread family
>>332322860
>I miss Morrowind so friggin' much.
So go play it
>>332327203
>>332328742
>>332328851
Case and point as to why 343 needs to stop trying to shove their shitty ideas into designs, when they take most of the inspiration/design from the source material it turns out good, when they decide to fuck with it it results in utter garbage.
>>332330874
Say what you want about Civ BE and BERT, but those games have some real nice unit and building design
I like the black and orange look of supremacy the most with all the geometric shapes and such
But I would be a liar if I wouldn't say that the rest look real nice as well
The only one that looks rather bland is the Purity Harmony hybrid
But Harmony and Purity hybrid is in itself an abomination of a concept
>>332331349
>>332331618
The SABR will remain my favourite
>>332331064
I know it was a joint project full well
That's why it rustles me so much that they forgot what big brother taught them
>>332330683
If you remove the hood, wolf pelt and made it a little less fattening it would be pretty decent but it wouldn't be assassins creed without over designed stealth characters.
>wearing armour
I've honestly always loved the design of the Dreadnaught armor (don't you fuckin dare mention the T7 redo). Was one of the first armor sets where I just sat there looking and inspecting someone who had it.
>fondest memory of the armor was someone with corrupted ashbringer in AV
>charged right in, destroying me and 2 others
>10/10 would get destroyed again.
>>332318087
Always liked the Mk.V.
>>332332492
>>332323335
Kind of the point.
