MGS4
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Absolutely hating this so far.
Is it worth it to actually play through it, or just watch it?
>>332307249
If you hate it you probably just don't like video games.
why do you hate it
voice acting? story? too many cutscenes? gameplay not to your liking?
what do you have against it
it's a massive disappointment and where I lost all faith in the series
I played them all back to back last year and I really liked mgs4
How can you hate MGS4? Gameplay is smooth and has tons of depth.
>>332307302
it's terrible mate
shit story that raped the shit out of the patriots lore
short gameplay followed by terrible specal gameplay stages
pretty much ruins every single character
>>332307249
Play it, you whiny little bitch.
Its gameplay is easily the best in the entire series, and it's also one big fanservice-filled swansong of the series.
Seriously, fuck the haters. MGS4 was a fine ending, and fixed that terrible mess that was #2.
>>332307249
it's not even hard. Probably the easiest MGS. Just play it
>>332307340
It might just be me, but the controls are atrocious
4 is actually my favourite in the series
>>332307627
It's probably just you because the controls are literally the exact same as every other TPS ever. Have you not played the past MGS games you faggot? How can you think MGS4 has bad controls but not mention the past games?
>>332307627
I honestly think V has worse controls, at least when it comes to micromanaging the camera every minute or so since its not centered.
>>332307302
If you hate it you probably just don't like shitty cinematic experiences with pants on head retarded writing
I always recommend to play first two acts then watch the frying tunnel and the final duel on youtube.
>>332307249
Too bad you're missing out on MGO2.
>>332307249
>Is it worth it to actually play through it, or just watch it?
Either way you'll be playing around the same amount.
>>332307302
If you like it, you probably should rather go watch movies.
>>332308094
>not playing the best parts of the game
wow, he's a retard
>>332307249
>play through it, or just watch it?
whats the difference?
is praising MGS4 basically just a global scale meme I'm not getting?
>>332307627
>but the controls are atrocious
...you wot now? The controls were FINALLY upgraded to modern levels in 4!
>>332307249
If you decide to power through then I think you will enjoy the final bossfight a lot
>>332308446
>playing
>>332307627
wut
Have you never played MGS on playstation before?
Gameplaywise it's the best in the series. Shame there's only a few hours of it but the 3 hours of 10/10 stealth gameplay in 4 are still a more valuable experience than the 50 hours of casualized open world grinding in V.
>>332307570
Shame there's like 2 hours of it.
>>332308718
>this delusion
MGS4 is literally six or seven linear hallways, the rest of it is boring turret sequences, escort missions, and forced boss fights
Do you own it?
Then don't be a fag and play it. The only difference in whether you watch it or not is that you'll miss out on the neat gameplay.
>b-but /v/ told me that the gameplay is bad, so I cannot play it!
MGS4 has really good gameplay; the only slow part is the escorting mission, but otherwise it is probably the best of the franchise in terms of execution and variety.
>>332308446
If you think act 3 is good then you're retarded. If you think act 4 is good then you're another retard who let the nostalgia meme rob him of all his standards. Act 5 is just a series of bad cutscenes.
>>332307249
The gameplay is the only good thing about it
>>332308942
And don't forget that Act 2 is only good for the first half, then it's a retarded turret section.
It's easily the worst MGS along with PW, but atleast PW gets off the hook a bit because it's a fucking PSP game.
It has a story that's just as shit as MGSV, (don't even try to deny it.), only that's all there basically is to it, and the little gameplay that is there isn't even that fucking good. It's fucking Subsistence with some new features bolted on that don't even mesh well.
Rolling around in a barrel is a feature. And you roll too much you puke.
I have no complaints.
>>332308868
>MGS4 is literally six or seven linear hallways
Any one of those hallways contains more quality level design than the entirity of MGS V giant empty copy pasted map.
>complaining about boss fights in a metal gear
Hello V baby.
Just skip to Phantom Pain, they made it for people like you.
Op, are you retarded or something like that?
>>332309050
pw has a better story than mgsv
>>332309134
>Any one of those hallways contains more quality level design than the entirity of MGS V giant empty copy pasted map.
Nope. The first mission of MGS V after the hospital has as much depth as Act 1 of MGS 4. In other words, a single mission in MGS V accounts for half the entire quality-content from MGS 4.
>>332307627
>Not the story
>Not the cutscenes
>Not the no gameplay
>Not the shit bosses
>The controls
That was like the only thing they did absolutely right
>>332307425
This desu
I couldn't see why people were so hyped for mgs5 when mgs4 ended the series in more ways than one.
>>332309375
>he first mission of MGS V after the hospital has as much depth as Act 1 of MGS 4.
The miller village is one of about 3 locations with more effort put into it than the use of a copy past tool, but with the baby mode stealth of V it's still far shallower than any of the stealth sequences in V.
>>332307249
You're supposed to play MGS1, 2 and 3 before. Don't rush them either, read everything so character development sinks in. MGS4 truly is an ode from Kojima to the decade old fans who grew up. It'll never have the same effect if you're only now playing through all of the games, so the least you can do it really pay attention because you're not going to be replaying them through the years before MGS4 ever hit you.
it gets worse
stop playing
>>332309632
I was hyped for it purely because it seemed like it was really going to deliver on the gameplay, in terms of both content and quality. 4 was so unsatisfying gameplay wise because it barely gave you any. Even if V had zero story I would have been onboard just for the hours of stealth gameplay.
Although approaching the release of V the trailers tricked me into getting interested in the story it was going to tell so it still ended up pissing me off.
>>332309134
>Any one of those hallways contains more quality level design than the entirity of MGS V giant empty copy pasted map.
Oh boy I love this "MGSV has shit level design" meme.
Go replay the game and realize how many different ways they designed bases and missions to be approachable.
Take the "Over the fence" mission for example:
You can go right to the front gate. Either through it or climb around it.
You can climb the cracked walls from the west side.
You can scale the hills and sneak in through the barracks from the east.
MGSV's level design absolutely shits on MGS4's corridors. It's not even a contest.
>>332310454
The bases and missions aren't designed AT ALL. Every single one is just a huge open space with buildings randomly dropped around.
>You can approach the empty undesigned space from any direction! Such freedom of gameplay!
As for mission design it's just "drop some blind stupid guards around" "Put an NPC that needs extracted/tank needs destroyed" in a random spot. The whole game seems designed by algorithm like some steam early access survival bullshit.
>>332310824
>The bases and missions aren't designed AT ALL. Every single one is just a huge open space with buildings randomly dropped around.
Oh so I guess almost every base having a good high location for recon is just an extreme degree of constant dumb luck then?
>>332311135
They just copied Ubisoft open world grind gameplay wholesale so obviously the towers placed everywhere were copied over too.
>>332311265
>They just copied Ubisoft open world grind gameplay wholesale so obviously the towers placed everywhere were copied over too.
If the very layout of the land qualifies as towers in your world then sure.
>>332311480
A cliff is a thinly veiled tower.
>>332309673
>but with the baby mode stealth of V
But anon, V doesn't allow you to turn invisible when near a surface like 4 does. 4 is way more baby-mode.
>>332311674
Yeah, it just gives you a giant autism mode 10 second long slow motion window to kill the person who spotted you and then you can carry on consquence free. Not that you can get spotted by the zero A.I/no vision guards in that game in the first place unless you are a literal 7 year old.
It has none of the options of 4. It's just babified meme stealth for the AAA Arkham Asylum/Conviction "stealth" memevedditor child.
>>332312031
>Yeah, it just gives you a giant autism mode 10 second long slow motion window to kill the person who spotted you and then you can carry on consquence free. Not that you can get spotted by the zero A.I/no vision guards in that game in the first place unless you are a literal 7 year old.
Nice job complaining about a feature that is completely optional and which you are even rewarded for playing without.
>>332312231
Except Octocamo is optional too if you're going to pull that card. The real point here is that the guard A.I is way less sophisticated in V.
>>332307627
the fuck
>>332312342
Now I really want to see a no-octocamo run of MGS4.
>>332309134
>complaining about boss fights in a metal gear
I'm complaining about boss fights in MGS4, which are all garbage. They're shallow, pointless characters who exist solely for the sake of having a boss fight, they have even less depth than the Cobra, and their fights aren't even fun, either.
>>332314816
Are you saying you don't like those copy pasted story time with Drebin which are all THE SAME and it's supposed to make you feel the same as when you killed the Foxhound members?
>>332314816
i thought the wolf battle was fun though. and the first time you fight mantis and figure out the trick and you kick her shit in was cool too
>>332307249
watch w/ booze - it's hilariously idiotic at times
If you dont want to play the game heres a video explaining the entire plot of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kNrIn8H32c
>>332312342
>Except Octocamo is optional too
But you don't get rewarded for not using it. Checkmate, faggot.
>>332307249
Gameplay is pretty fun.
>>332307249
If you like to watch games just go fucking do it goddamn do you need validation from a bunch of angry neckbeards, half of whom are just quoting shitposts they read because of 'lol le pc masterrase'
Go watch games on youtube if that's how you prefer to 'play' them but do us all a favor and stop asking for a pat on the back for doing it.
>>332315662
friendly reminder: achievments are gamification of gaming, thus, tools of the devil
>>332307249
>or just watch it?
I'm done with these newfags who perpetuate this idea that watching the cutscenes beats playing through it.
Just accept that you don't really want to play it but instead want to be a cock whore and say you've experienced it.
>>332307249
Acts 1 and 2 are the best, so if you don't like it to begin with you won't enjoy it at all.
>>332316265
>and say you've experienced it.
not op, but not everyone needs someone's acknowledgement for such things
This man thinks MGS4 is bad and all around flawed, what now?
>>332316082
It isn't an achievement. It's a score bonus.
Or are you gonna say that getting the Big Boss Rank doesn't matter either? Casual.
>>332317738
>It's a score bonus.
oh well, sign me the fuck up
>>332307627
MGSV was a mistake
>>332307578
You're afan of MGS2aren't you?
If so, yeah, I see why you'd say that. There was a lot of set up that really got watered down with nanomachines, but it really is a love letter to the series as a whole even if the story is beyond stupid sometimes. Plus, i'm pretty sure kojima overwrote 4 so he didn't have to write any story for 5.
I watched the full game in youtube because I thought I'd never get a PS3.
Then my bff bought one and got the game because she needed a disc to make the pirate thing work.
I played it then. Not worth it.
As a rule of thumb, OP, if you're not enjoying something, get out of it. Be it games, books, relationships and what not.
>>332321471
>being a quitter
>>332321471
>watched the game in it's entirety before playing it
Gee, I wonder why you didn't like it.
