Will FF14 ever be good?
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Why/how do people still play this garbage?
>same amount of content released constantly
>devs constantly wasting man hours creating shit nobody asked for and is dead upon release.
>devs constantly throwing created content out the window in favor of more content to be thrown out the window later
>homogenized healing classes
>no feeling of progression
>dull itemization
>time gates on everything when content is in limited supply.
I just don't get it. What are the redeeming qualities of this game? Is it really that fun to drag yourself through shitty raids to gear up only to throw that gear away at a later point in time? You spend so many hours and deal with so much frustration putting together groups to clear content and then its just thrown the fuck away. I can't understand this shit. If you aren't raiding in this game then what the actual fuck are you doing? Are you just dicking around making gil for no apparent reason or what is going on exactly?
I played through 3.0 when the expansion dropped then got bored of it. Over two years later there is literally the same amount of shit to do. I just...fuck it. Does anybody else feel the same way about this game?
excuse me, homogenized everything
HATE POTATOES
>>332264048
Not as long as it attracts weebshitters who don't care/can't even do basic endgame.
>>332264285
Is there any Potatodiaperart?
You know, you can just stop playing it.
>>332264331
I love how they spent developement time making something for shitters to learn how to play the game when literally nobody is ever going to use it. Its like they think that people want to learn how to play the game. Its a joke. If you cant learn how to play FF14 then you should probably just not even play videogames.
>>332264463
I stopped playing it literally 2 months after Heavensward launched.
>>332264048
Unlike 1.0, nothing from ARR can be salvaged. It'll never be good senpai.
>>332266921
Basically how I feel. It's still better than gw2. Which isn't saying much mind you. They're both garbage shit for retards.
I stopped playing it myself as I just can't give it the time.
However, right now it is pretty fucking boring as well, and I can safely say that most players are just playing because of habit and the social aspect.
>>332264498
That's why they put in SSS.
>>332264048
Name a better mmo to play than FF14?
So what mmo is worth playing nowadays?
>>332269089
FFXI. It's too bad the servers are deserted though. That being said I think there are plenty of other fun games to play out there. I think that MMO as a while are pretty much dead as far as old school mmo players go. Everything is way too casual and game content is short lived and constantly replaced and there is little variety.
>>332269357
Well, I want to say FFXI, but the population is a lot less than it used to be, and so it's a lot less fun. However, it makes for a pretty good singleplayer game albeit one you need to pay a monthly fee in order to play, but isn't that most MMORPGs nowadays?
>>332270158
Basically yes. FFXI is the best single player mmo out right now.
>>332270158
Is there any populated servers left? I've been wanting to play that game for awhile. And is there really no good mmo left out there?
>>332270893
Asura is where most of the players have moved to.
>>332270893
Asura is the one I'm on and so are a few other /v/ and /vg/ users who aren't weird like in some other games. There are a few other games I've been looking forward to, such as Tree of Savior and Pantheon, but the former is pretty grindy and the other isn't in a playable form yet.
>>332270956
>>332271008
Thanks I'll go to that server. I'm downloading the game now even though /v/ seems to hate it
>>332271252
Well, people might not have liked it since you level up from killing mobs rather than questing, and back in the day it took awhile to level since you needed to party up with others just to take on mobs at your level. Now, you get NPC party members to remedy the lack of low level players which makes the game a lot faster and easier. They also increased the amount of experience points you get by like triple the amount from before, though you might need to unlock some of that exp bonus through quests. Also, you should visit the Final Fantasy General on /vg/ (separate from FFXIV's general) to figure out where to download the updates for the game so that you don't have to download them through the game's really slow client and, if you want more help in-game, ask to join the linkshell group, which is basically a guild in FFXI.
>>332271581
I'll check it out thanks. I'm hoping this is a mmo I can sink thousands of hours into like I did with wow. I've been looking for a mmo like that for ages
>>332271787
You should be able to get quite a few hundred hours if it interests you. You will need to ask somebody about a program called "windower" and get them to help set you up with what plug-ins to use. It's essential if you want to actually be decent at the game.
>>332271787
Keep in mind this isn't like WoW at all, but you can definitely sink in a lot of time playing through the decade's worth of content. The combat relies a lot on auto attacking with long cooldown skills thrown in. If you haven't already seen what the gameplay is like, either watch some videos off youtube or even check out one of the free private servers such as Era or Nasumi to see if you can tolerate it. Just as a final tip, I would recommend picking a melee job first and level up mages later on because you need to find or buy spells, and they can get really expensive. Warrior and Monk are solid starter jobs that you can use as sub jobs later.
It just needs replay value.
At the moment, the core game is a really drawn out main story with some admittedly really good side content.
I don't think I could go and make a new character and go through everything all over again, so give people a reason to.
Have there be dialogue choices that effect the story.
Have there be multiple ways to end dungeons and raids.
Have branching paths in the Main Story Quests.
Let some of the side quests have an effect on the main quests.
I think the above is what would benefit XIV the most in the long run.
Man I miss leveling up in the dunes.
>>332272571
Why would someone want to make multiple characters when you can level every job on the same character? Most of your suggested changes are completely incompatible with the game's core philosophy. I do agree that dungeons should be more interesting, but most people are going to find the most efficient route of going through a dungeon and just do that in order to grind the most experience points in the shortest amount of time with the least amount of effort required. I do agree that this game needs replay value and more side content instead of constantly building higher tiers of endgame all the damn time. I'm sick of waiting for the next endgame dungeon or raid when I'd rather have more leveling content to not be bored out of my mind when leveling other jobs. Heck, my whole gripe with the game could be summarized with a single sentence: I want more incentive to level more than one or two jobs. The game is fundamentally flawed, but it can be salvaged.
baltics still banned from black desert online?
>>332273203
The draw should be that the Main Story gives more experience than grinding can.
As of now they're pretty much on par with FATEs as far as handing out EXP.
>>332273489
Yes, but a character that has a higher level job gets like a 50% exp bonus when leveling its other jobs, but I think that might have been bumped up a bit recently. That pretty much alone makes it not worth creating a new character just to level up a new job. It still boggles the mind that this is the one unique thing they took from FFXI and they do barely anything with it and are in fact trying to erase what little they did do with it for some inane reason. I can understand your reasoning since this is how most other MMORPGs work, but both FF MMOs don't want you to make new characters. They actively try to dissuade this by forcing an extra dollar charge per month for each character and by locking a lot of content behind long questlines that a new character would have to go through again. This is just how they are right now, and changing this pillar of the game would cause a whole restructuring of it that I actually would welcome. Surely blowing up Eorzea will fix it.
I don't think OP. Played some 1.5x back in the day and then ARR when it came out. It definitely made some steps in the right direction, but failed in other aspects. From a SE standpoint, they created an (almost) consistent gameplay formula with FFXI, and then they threw it away, losing so many things that made that game an enjoyable experience. Surely, it was not for everyone, and many people preferred more "immediate" gameplay like WoW. What bothers me with FF14 is it plain "flatness". There is nothing really special about it as an MMO, it's just a mix of already seen mechanics. The general realization isn't bad either, but does that make it a memorable journey? For me, not very much, for example because you can solo pretty much everything story related with relative ease. Want to do a dungeon? Let the dungeon finder do the work for you. There is no "forced socialization" because there really is no need to. Maybe for higher level stuff you have to actually organize your group, but even then I'm not a big enthusiast of the gameplay. Again, it seems like your average-joe skillbar button press MMO, with plenty of fancy animations spam. And if everything you do in the endgame is raids, well, I can see how it gets boring quick.
On a side note, I found the crafting to be very good, congrats to SE for doing something right
Your last thread died with barely any replies Yoshida you can stop shilling 3.2 now, you're still a hack as long as you keep spending what little of XIV's budget you have on tours and castles.
>>332274301
3.3 will save the game, you'll see!
>>332274095
I basically powered through the Bahumut raids with my group and crafted, and once I was done with those raids I figured the game was "complete" to me. The new Alex storyline wasn't grabbing my attention and the raids lack something that the Bahumut raids had, which was interesting mechanics every single turn. So once I was done with that, I stuck around for a little bit to see if things were going to get better, and when I saw they weren't, I left. Simple as that.
Friend stuck around to jew the low-pop server we played on because airships are fucking broken.
>>332274095
I grew tired of DoW and then came to enjoy gathering and crafting a lot more. Met some cool people through it, allowed me to buy two houses and I'm never hurting for money. Now I'm slowly trying to get back into the DoW stuff.
>>332264048
git gud
>>332269089
SSS is a fucking useless tool also, especially when it's not mandatory to enter any end-level content.
The majority of people plainly don't know how to play their roles optimally.
>>332264048
Lots of people in todays gaming world are hooked on the themepark idea that modern MMOs use. They like the idea of getting material rewards for completing menial tasks and enjoy waiting in line to do the same non challenging content over and over again. It's tough when you look back at MMOs like FFXI or SWG that focused on the more important aspects like community, story, and world building as those games had far more depth and content in general.
At this point you either have quit MMOs for good or accept the fact that you're wasting endless hours of your life on a hollow game. I couldn't even suggest trying FFXI these days because SE ruined it to try and push people over to XIV.
>>332264048
>Same amount
You mean less right? In the early stages of ARR we got massive patches every few weeks now we have to wait 3 months for a manderville quest patch, a new timelock on relic weapons and 2 new dungeons that add nothing but more grind.
>>332274859
FFXI relied on skinnerboxes for the relevant gear, not stupid silly shit like mounts in XIV.
>XI is getting mounts added next month
Good thing that game is basically dead before they ruin it further.
Hey /v/, I'm looking at the gathering/crafting grind and I'm wondering if its worth it. How is the script system?
>>332275014
Content wasn't locked behind DPS requirements or gear checks, in most cases items were merely extra rewards and the main focus was always the adventure and time spent with friends rather than what items you got at the end. You could do any content in just the basic AF gear and because they didn't use a treadmill design it meant that older content for the most part was never rendered obsolete and always presented a challenge.
>tfw never finished raising my chocobo
>>332275117
>script system
What? Do you mean scrips? They're just more grinding.
>>332268863
This.
I stopped playing too with 3.2. I just can't be bothered to spend all the time to grind gear again for the same fight again.
Not to mention if gear weren't locked you'd run through all the 3.2 content within two hours (minus Alex maybe).
>>332275171
>Content wasn't locked behind DPS requirements or gear checks
Besides a ton of XI's relevant being time-limited and you actually wanted competent geared players to full-clear it with less people so there's less splitting of gear to go about.
Otherwise you just zombie'd everything for 2hrs snoozing along for one thing you needed to not drop, or for that one guy of the 28 present to get priority on it.
>>332274506
What jobs did you try before?
>>332274458
Coil also tried out new mechanics. Mostly non-telegraphed attacks/gimmicks that you had to figure out together based on observation.
Also it didn't feel as arena-y as this new content. The new content is literally: Here's a circle, here's the boss, you already know 99% of its mechanics, since it's just a rehashed version of older ones.
>>332264048
>dull itemization
Please show me an example of the opposite. I'd like to see some exciting itemization.
>>332275205
How much of a hassle is it to grind out scripts?
>>332275549
A couple of weeks.
Any good FFXI private servers? I saw someone mention Nasomi or something, is that one decent?
>>332275549
Blue ones are easy, red ones I think are capped? Bit more annoying, but using an external clock helps so you can do other shit while waiting. This one is good:
www.ffxivclock.com/
But as that other anon said, it takes a few weeks to get everything, which is annoying.
>>332275549
Getting your weekly cap is an hour's work at most if you just buy everything yourself and craft. For the actual scrip gear purchases, you're looking at a few months per class.
Is there a list of whats in patch 3.25 somewhere? I know about the large scale update to chocobo racing but I was hoping it would add more than just an NPC challenge.
>>332272908
I just wonder why there isn't a popular classic FFXI private server like Project 1999 for everquest. The FFXI private servers have a ton of bugs and barely anyone plays on them. what gives?
>>332264048
Habit, I guess.
It sucks.
>>332275593
depends on what you mean by decent, I personally didn't enjoy it much because there is only like 100 people on tops, which isn't enough to sustain the game. It also has a few bugs that can be hard to deal with. It's ok, and with 1k players active it would be awesome but the people just aren't there.
>>332264048
>Does anybody else feel the same way about this game?
Yeah, I feel this way about just about every mmos that is currently somewhat popular. I wish a good mmos like EQ, FFXI, Ultima, etc would get made but apparently there just aren't enough people to support those anymore.
>>332275431
The only ones that really stuck with me were BRD and DRK. Magic classes didn't really do it for me, Burned myself out on NIN on my way to HW. Leveled MRD for the cross class skills and it was painful. Not looking forward to leveling GLD for it's cross class skills. Couldn't really get into Pugilist and MCH doesn't sound all that appealing to me.
I'm fine with gathering and crafting though, allows me to help out my friends I made a FC with when I transfered and I get to harass people on the marketboard.
>>332264498
The solution was really simple - you gate the content behind the learning solo trial, like WoW did with Proving Grounds. But no, the shitters would cry if you hurt their feelings
>>332275462
Everquest.
A Game that came out 17 years ago managed to do items better than most ever MMO to come out to this day.
>level requirements on items didn't exist
>90% of items were tradeable and never became 'soulbound'
A good MMO would have horizontal progression and allow all content to be beat at level 1 if you're skilled enough. There is no reason to gate shit and force arbitrary requirements like beating a single player story mode to play content in a MMO.
MMOs are too grindy for the sake of being grindy. They need to make enjoyable dungeons and interesting enemies to fight as a base before throwing in little trinkets and carrots to keep casuals happy.
>It's BRD who got lucky clear and join Seph EX farm party and then did less than 800 DPS
Fuck them.
>>332277191
dont forget:
>If an item got nerfed, any of that specific item that existed before the nerf still existed with the same stats/capabilities and was sellable to other players
This is probably one of the most unique things about everquest and is an amazing idea in a game that focuses around PvE and community.
>>332277191
You've got your nostalgia goggles on m8, and I say this as someone that also loved EQ.
Itemization in original everquest is about as boring as you could get, even level 50 weapons only have a couple stats on them at most.
Not to mention the totally opaque disconnect between weapons marked with "Magic" and those not marked with magic and what they could damage. Though most people here probably didn't play until after they removed that.
>>332276161
Latest Live Letter maybe?
>>332277256
>A good MMO would have horizontal progression and allow all content to be beat at level 1 if you're skilled enough
Not really. This doesn't even make sense. A good MMO should require you to be a part of the community/world if you want to progress anywhere. It shouldn't just be based on your own personal skill or levels. The only reason to play an mmo vs other games is to play with other people, and so that should be the major focus. Gameplay that rewards social behavior.
>>332276161
patch notes should be released sometime today, probably in a few hours
>>332264048
The core problem of FFXIV is that the devs have no fucking idea what they are doing. The only trick they know is to rehash the same basic content pattern every 3 to 6 months. It's really pathetic that you can predict in advance what will be coming in the next patch and in the one after it. Every time they try something "different" it becomes obvious how incompetent and divorced from reality they are. After HW it should have become obvious even for the most diehard fanboys that Yoshida would rather let the game suffocate and die than do something new. If you're hoping that FFXIV would ever change you're out of luck. 4.0 would be the same rehashed shit 3.0 was.
>>332277428
Dude you just outed yourself as a gigantic pleb
So what if the weapons had "A few stats." Literally, so what?
And don't even get started on that fucking "how was I supposed to know that" bullshit
>>332277428
>Nostalgia goggles
Not him, but I'm currently 400 hours into EQ on p99 and have a level 40 enchanter. Items not having a bunch of stats is about the gayest thing you could ever complain about. You are cancerous as fuck if you don't see how glorious EQ's itemization was. It's one of the best examples of good itemization in an mmo.
>>332277546
If you remember, he said "Dull itemization", not "Good itemization"
I would agree that EQ has good itemization overall. But you can't call it interesting or exciting, which is the opposite of Dull.
>>332277493
But their players actually like the rehashed content. Subs are higher than ever since the expansion came out and for every endgame player that quits because they are bored or thinks the game sucks now, over a dozen new players take ther spot.
>>332277630
It was fucking exciting because gear meant something. Getting a good piece of gear mattered. Items having a bunch of stats for the sake of "excitement" is fucking stupid, and ends up being duller than the system in EQ.
>>332277573
Learn to follow a conversation mate, I didn't ask for examples of good itemization. I asked for exciting itemization.
>>332264048
>Is it really that fun to drag yourself through shitty raids to gear up only to throw that gear away at a later point in time?
That's how mmos work, if you arent getting something better than what you have - you dont feel like you're progressing and you eventually stop playing. GW2 tried horizontal progression and it didnt work, they had to introduce a new rarity even though they previously said numerous times they would NEVER do that.
>>332277697
learn to not be a faggot who uses stupid buzzwords
>>332277690
That's exactly the fucking point, thanks for following along.
>Need to clear Seph Ex and watched a guide on the fight twice
>Too scared of fucking up and living up being to a loldrg
Only phase 3 is tricky right?
>>332277751
no problem senpaitchi, these faggots don't know whats up.
>>332277782
Everyone else is going to fuck up too man. Just go for it.
>>332277782
Phase 3 is when you actually have to start doing something, yes.
>>332277658
Relying on newbies only is not a sustainable model for a several year old game. Sure, there's a bunch of green leaves after every time the game goes on sale, but most of them leave after a couple of months
>>332275435
>The new content is literally: Here's a circle, here's the boss, you already know 99% of its mechanics, since it's just a rehashed version of older ones.
Pandering to the casuals by adding a story-mode version of the major raid, and subsequently tuning-up the difficulty of the actual raid version, has to be the BIGGEST fuckup in this game's entire history.
1.0 was a fairly big fuckup, but in terms of "losing subscribers due to arbitrary bullshit" that really took the cake. Only now are they starting to dig themselves out of the hole 3.0 buried them in; and even if they're willing to experiment with the endgame formula, the game will only truly recover in time for 4.0- Heavensward is a wash.
>>332277573
>>332277428
THATS NOT WHAT ITEMIZATION MEANS YOU RETARDS.
Oh boy another shitty gimmick mode to play once and never touch again
>>332277889
>Pandering to the casuals by adding a story-mode version of the major raid, and subsequently tuning-up the difficulty of the actual raid version, has to be the BIGGEST fuckup in this game's entire history.
So Yoshi is LITERALLY following in WoW's footsteps?
>>332277782
The fight is literally Simon Says
>Simon says move to left for slams
>Simon says purple move right
>Simon says kill small adds then big adds
>Simon says spread out
>Simon says move to your color
>>332277975
Every fights is Simon Says.
>>332277875
Most of them actually stay and end up being the endgame players you see today. It's the same shit as WoW. People leave eventually but new people replace the old crowd and the cycle repeats until the audience is completely different.
>>332277930
Go ahead and tell us the definition then, and not the dictionary definition because that's obviously not what's being used in this context.
>tfw you have a bard in this party
>>332277952
Yoshida never wanted to make a Final Fantasy game. He just wanted to make WoW 2.0 after he took over after 1.23. Heard rumors that he's only played FFVII.
>>332278021
Unlike WoW FFXIV have a strategy of deliberately not giving a single fuck about its older players. And since the number of potential players is limited every next discount or free login weekend attracts even less people than the previous one. You can't sustain a game like this for a prolonged period of time. If SE fucks up 4.0 like they did with 3.0, I doubt the game would see another expansion
>>332277875
As long as people pay a monthly sub fee and the base game or expansion price, then its sustainable. FFXI has been doing the same shit for over a decade and not once have they change their business model because it still makes them money.
>>332278093
Man, Bellandy is still as shit as ever at the game.
>>332278202
I know that, I played 1.0, played the ARR beta and saw that he turned it into WoW with better graphics and ps3 limitations. Never played after that.
I just hoped that after all this time he'd get his shit together.
>>332277952
Yeah. People cried for a story-mode version of the next Coil, but
anyone with two neurons to rub together could have told you this was a bad idea:
FFXIV lacks any kind of longevity outside its raid content, and the only driving motivators for people to clear raids are exclusive raid content like the story, bosses and glamour gear.
Remove those as a factor (with story mode dropping undyable versions of raid gear, from copypasted bosses; with "story" content relegated exclusively to the former) and the only players you're left with subscribing month-to-month are the ~10-20% uber casuals with <5 hours free time a week and the 1% autistic hardcore raiding crowd that raid only for the sake of raiding.
Leaving >79% of your playerbase with nothing to do but cap tomestones (the weekend after a quarterly content patch, once they've done the story and blown through Hildy/etc.) is not a recipe for a thriving MMO.
>>332278208
You're implying that FFXIV is declining in players when it's not. Servers are still full as ever, servers that aren't full are filled with new leafs who join from people who transfer from WoW or hear about this game on other places. 4.0 can be the same shit as 3.0 and people would still play it, their playerbase actually enjoys the model they setup. The vocal minority complains about it on the forums and 4chan but ingame people are still hella enjoying the game leveling multiple jobs and helping their FC mates and now new leafs through Novice Network.
>>332278283
She did fine when i was pally, and i am a trash paladin.
>tfw the nin shadewalkers you at an inappropiate time and it's useless.
>tfw you start a new character
This feeling of not having to worry about caps and deadlines and weeklys at the moment feels so good.
I am in love with my amazonian tall, delicious brown giraffe lady.
>>332264352
No. I've only been paid to draw potato's domming over catgirls. sorry anon
>>332278392
>You're implying that FFXIV is declining in players when it's not. Servers are still full as ever
This is just not true. Every lodestone survey shows a steady population decline since HW release
>>332278501
You don't have to worry about any of those things, just play the game however makes you happy.
I miss xiv sometimes.
>>332278653
If you actually read Japanese, there's still over 770k active characters level 20 or above on that chart and that's from the middle of the Patch 3.1 content drought. ARR didn't even have that many players at the end.
WHOS READY FOR THE NEXT STEP IN RELICS, EXPECT THIS TIME ITS MIDAS INSTEAD OF GORDIAN EDITION
>finally get into a raid static again after a failed attempt at tackling Gordias months ago and subsequently not giving a shit anymore
>mfw A5S is actually fun
>>332278852
PURPLE SCRIPS
>>332278852
>INSTEAD
Hahahaha you jokester. You meant Midas AND Gordias.
relatively new player here, I just started heavensward and beat ravana
this game has hands down the coolest bosses in any mmo, I'm loving it
>>332278814
You mean 1.0? I sure as fucking don't. It was a perfect example of rushed game development and a oversized development team making retarded game design choices because they had idea that "we will patch it later" and "it will sell anyways because it's a Final Fantasy game".
>>332279242
Never played 1.0, I was talking the game in general.
>>332279209
Wait till you see sephirot
>>332279209
Oh man just wait till you unlock the singularity reactor.
I miss my potato, i don't miss the game itself .
>>332279209
Wait until BRUTE JUSTICE.
We're sorry about Bismarck though.
>>332276794
>>332276860
maybe a few months ago 100 was tops
but it tops on at 300ish on peak times like weekends and evenings. I never noticed anything too glitchy on nasomi so far and I've played a few hundred hours there already.
>>332264048
>I played through 3.0 when the expansion dropped then got bored of it. Over two years later there is literally the same amount of shit to do.
So you played 4.0 and 5.0 already?
>>332279209
SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED
>>332279209
Also new player (~2 weeks)
I thought Leviathan was fucking awesome, can't wait for the flying whale
>>332279286
>Ramuh + Titan vibes
Oh good god that must be horrifying to pug
Just a reminder that if you play on Aether or on a EU datacenter, you're only fucking yourself.
>>332264048
is this the same faggot shitposting about ff14 everyday? play something else and stop complaining you retard
>>332279427
nasomi on saturday had like 100 people on at peak hours
>>332279556
did you look at the status page it was a bit more than that. XP parties are really easy to get now. even at unholy times.. like right now..
>>332264048
ff14 is shit, plz come back to wow guys
we will let you skip wod if you come back
>played cat
>never got commends even when best dps or dps while healing
>change to lala because friends did it
>600 commends in three months
>change back to cat
>zero commends
>>332279679
>giving a shit about commends
>want to try Sephirot ex
>can't join farm parties because bonus
>can't join farm parties because fail = kick blacklisted and reported :))))
>can't create training parties because run sellers intentionally join and fail and treat everyone like shit on purpose to discourage everyone
But its all my fault, right.
>>332279461
It is but once you get a clear and join farm parties the fight is very fun
>>332264048
It was decent the first month, crafting especially.
Then they've made the mistake of listening to the HARDCORE raiders and you know what happens to mmos when they do that.
>>332279721
it's your fault for playing on such a shitty server
>>332279721
You can blacklist the run sellers so they can't join your PF anymore.
>>332279691
But they did tell us we can't access the new content unless we meet the requirements dumb panda man.
>>332279691
Story quests are extremely boring and not even multiplayer. Why should I have to play a ton of single player fetch quests to play the multiplayer instances?
>>332279703
I want that 1500 robe anon
>>332279874
the story sets itself up for the expansion, going straight into the expansion content wouldn't make any sense if you didn't follow the story.
and if you aren't enjoying the game for the story then you're playing the wrong game.
>>332279679
I play male midlander and I have more than 1k commends, I don't think it actually matters
How do I boton PS4
>>332279906
I suppose, I did grind for a luminary tool before I quit.
>>332278653
>that player attrition between 3.0 and 3.1
SAY MY NAME
SAY MY NAME
>>332280025
get a programmable keyboard+mouse
>>332279809
Looks like they're realizing that mistake though.
Only 2000 people cleared A4S when it was relevant, holy shit. No doubt they've also realized how absurd that is.
>>332279679
Nothing to do with Lalafell, people just hate cats. Cat players are more likely to be shit than not for a large variety of reasons, and even if you do well you're fighting against a stereotype and no one will give you credit for it.
>>332280123
Anonymous
What's the best class to be on gorilla duty in A5S? We've only ran it once so far and let the SCH do it so the fairy can keep healing in the meantime.
>>332280165
And about as many will go on clearing Brute Justice. 5-7 are definitely easier overall (though bigger on mechanics, and everybody loves those right?) but 8 is just as hard as 4 was, if for different reasons (assault of mechanics rather than absurd tuning)
>>332279410
Brute Justice is a meme boss
>>332264048
> Is it really that fun to drag yourself through shitty raids to gear up only to throw that gear away at a later point in time? You spend so many hours and deal with so much frustration putting together groups to clear content and then its just thrown the fuck away.
Welcome to MMOs, newfriend.
MUH
SANDBOX
MMOS
>>332280265
SCH is literally the only optimal option.
It's not like there's anything for SCH to heal
>>332279427
it doesn't matter if it tops at 300, there are barely ever that many people on. Even 300 is not enough to sustain this kind of game. It needs minimum 600+ at all times in order have enough activity for the game to function. Preferably would have 1k+ and it would be an amazing experience. As it stands it's a ghost town.
>>332280265
SCH. Your dots will be ticking in the meantime and you're only losing out on a few broil casts.
>>332280447
you are fucking retarded. theres tons of activity and the server is growing all the time. fine, don't have fun then.
>>332280187
I thought lalafells had the reputation for being shitters especially if they're tanks
>>332280165
Listening to casuals kills your game because while casuals make up the biggest demographic they fundamentally don't understand what a casual player wants from an MMO (fun fact: casuals paradoxically hate casual MMOs; they're wannabees, and feel elite merely playing the same game as hardcore players even if they'll never touch hardcore content).
Listening to hardcore players kills your game because they make up an infinitesimally small minority and they know exactly what they want- which is the antithesis of what creates a stable, healthy MMO. That is to say they want an inexhaustible stream of exclusively hardcore content, and they want it to be clearable ASAP so they can no-life it the first few days for World Firsts, wank their e-peen all over the internet and whine for more hardcore content.
The Midcore meanwhile represent a voice of reason.
Pity no one ever listens to the midcore, because they're the quiet middle child that never gets a moment's attention due to their older and younger siblings respective misbehavior and petulant whining.
>>332280757
No, lalafells have a reputation for being unfortunately good at the game and elitist about it.
>>332280757
Lalafell are really divisive, but there's not really any reason to think they're worse than your average player. From my experience Lalafell players are almost always good. They wouldn't get statics otherwise.
The problem with cat players is that people who pick cat probably aren't very serious players. They've got shit for lore so people really into the setting probably won't play them, and they're also an easy default pick to look good for all the casual players out there.
I played a lot of FFXIV. It's one of my favourite games.
That being said, I've stopped playing it. I enjoyed 2.0-2.2 and got tired of the routine patches. Took my break and returned for Heavensward. I enjoyed that reasonably too but once 3.1 hit and now 3.2, I've realised that I'm doing the same thing over and over.
The dungeons/raids are fun for the first few times, but then they just become a chore to cap for the week in and week out.
I'll probably resub for the next expansion, like I do for WoW.
I don't hate MMOs, I like them a lot. But I realised they're not games I should be feeling like I have to play every day to get anywhere.
It would be nice if SE/Yoshi stopped treating patch content as the same stick and routine. But that's hard to ask when they fall flat when trying to add new types of content like Lords of Verm.
>>332280757
Hyurs are either normies who are kinda mediocre at the game or okay people who are decent at it
Cats are all shit at the game, no exceptions
Elezen are cool folks, all 3 of them
Roes are either raging homosexuals who spend all their time ERPing with highlanders and other roes or cool bros who didn't know what they were getting into by picking this race
Lalas are either pedophiles who masturbate to their character during dps queues or elitist tank dickholes
Au Ra are edgy 14 year olds or obnoxious waifufags
>>332280820
You put it into words very well, I totally agree with you. I really hope the FFXIV team has learned a lesson with how few people actually get to see the current savage content.
>>332280597
> fine, don't have fun then.
Oh im having fun, just not on a dead server.
>>332280973
I found cats to be similar to lalas.
Extremely bad at the game or extremely good. But both are obnoxious as fuck.
Got a quick MCH question: When do I take the Gauss Barrel off? It is pretty hard for me to actually phrase this stuff due to random proccs making the results different. I have heared you take it off if you have no ammo and fish for proccs on your split shot, letting the auto attack tick until your got a procc. Any other times?
And is it worth keeping your CDs back for the second Wildfire? Or just fire and forget it and get them lines up for the third Wildfire to basically do the opener again?
>>332281819
Get good at basic MCH rotation and priority first before you'd consider stance dancing.
>And is it worth keeping your CDs back for the second Wildfire? Or just fire and forget it and get them lines up for the third Wildfire to basically do the opener again?
Depends on the fight. In some fight it's worth holding the CD, some not.
>>332281819
You shouldn't bother unless you are a machinist expert, the DPS increase is marginal for the amount of effort required.
>>332281819
Never turn off Gauss Barrel unless you have to move constantly and you have no weaponskill procs available. If you're moving for a second or two, then using Feint would be better than turning off Gauss Barrel. It doesn't have a cast time but is still affected by the damage bonus Gauss Barrel provides.
Always use Wildfire when it's available.
>>332282006
I am good enough with MCH that I would love to go the extra mile, that is why I am asking.
>>332282112
>I am good enough with MCH
>needing to ask whether you should hold Wildfire or not.
Don't kid yourself. Maybe start doing real raids first before thinking you're hot shit.
>>332281819
The tl;dr of Gauss Barrel stance dancing is that Split Shot/Hot Shot/Slug Shot+autoattacks is more than the same three commands with GB. But Lead Shot and Clean Shot are not. What this means is that if you take GB off when you 1) don't have Gauss Round upcoming AND 2) don't have Clean Shot proc up or need to apply Lead Shot then mathematically it should be a DPS increase. The increase however is not that big. At worst you can try taking GB off after the second Clean Shot in a Wildfire sequence so that there's an extra autoattack right before Wildfire goes off, then putting it back on for a Clean Shot proc or Gauss Round, whichever comes first.
Don't even try to do this until you're 100% comfortable with normal MCH gameplay, you'll just mess up.
As for holding cooldowns, no, it's never worth it in the long run. The only exception is perhaps if the fight is only a bit over 2 minutes long so you're only gonna use the cooldowns twice anyway, then you might as well align them up, but otherwise no, just use them.
Think of it like this. MCH comes in cycles of 30 seconds, framed by Hot+Lead. First cycle is the full buff wildfire. Second cycle is nothing. Third cycle is Reload plus Ricochet again. Fourth cycle is B4B, HE and a mildfire (rapid should also be up for this). Fifth cycle is Reload and Ricochet again. Sixth cycle is nothing and for seventh the rotation resets.
>>332282112
I'm not as cruel as >>332282181
Machinist is easily one of the most complex classes for maximizing DPS, even without considering stance dancing.
You'll get a much bigger DPS increase from focusing on when to use your cooldowns, what order to use them on, and making sure you are timing them to show up during correct phases of fights etc
>>332264048
Black Desert just came out in NA as buy to play, fuck anything else.
Savage is still fun. I'm liking A6S a lot.
>been waiting for dyable High Allagan so I could dye it green like on those Crystal Tower NPCs
>crafted versions also make the sleeves dye into the relevant hue
The shit is this fuck
>>332278093
What's up Knights Templar
>>332282473
too bad it sucks ass
texture popping everywhere, cash shop worse than some F2P games, ghillie suit is pay 2 win in pvp, character customization is about as cookie cutter as vanilla wow was, etc
>>332282309
Ah thank you, that clears it up for me!
>>332281819
>A lot of movement and you don't have procs available
rare situations, but present in current content
>no oGCD damage skills available with no procs after Clean or just Slug shot available
turn off for 1 GCD, you'll get 1-2 AA of bonus damage
just watch this guy's dummy beating, he does things right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me2hFPwz8ws
for WIlfire it depends on both fight and your group, you should learn how to manage it yourself, I'm pretty sure you can decide yourself if it worthy using now or you should save it for another 30 seconds
>>332281819
It's not worth losing sleep over, but the other use of it is before your last GCD during the first Wildfire. If your timing is tight enough, you can get in two shots before the end, where if you had to wait for two casting timers you'd only be able to get one in for sure. The DPS increase is marginal as fuck though, and unless you're in a group that's 0/100 on A8S where you keep wiping at 1% or you want bragging rights, it's seriously nothing to give a shit about.
>>332282330
>most complex
Blow your load on the first wildfire, use CDs once ready, fish for procs and use feint when moving. Almost every class has DoTs that they need to keep up and watch.
Nice to see how elitist MCH player have gotten after the patch. Must the the influx of people wanting to be the new shit.
>>332281330
>play femroe
>hyur describes me more
Well then
>>332281330
>Elezen are cool folks, all 3 of them
Thanks pal
>>332279461
So it's literally just that? Wow, why is this game still alive again?
>>332283029
>use feint when moving
Above-average MCH here, I have never used Feint and I don't intend to. If I need to move a whole fucking bunch like in Sephirot pushback phase I'd rather just take GB off than waste TP on that piece of shit
>>332283029
>Blow your load on the first wildfire, use CDs once ready
You'll easily be 200 DPS lower than a good MCH with that attitude. Not that it matters outside of savage, but it's way more important than stance dancing.
>>332281330
>cats are all shit at the game, no exceptions
I'm a damn good blm thank you very much
>>332283205
It's better to use feint if you have to move quickly for a second or two. But longer than that then yeah it's better to turn off Gauss Barrel.
>>332281053
Don't make capping an objective of yours. Just play to have fun with the added bonus of capping. If you're not having fun with dungeons or raids, try capping on something else like Trials or PvP or even older 60 dungeons
>>332283205
M8. MCH have like infinite TP.
>>332283461
Not when you grenado shoot the whole add phase!
>>332279785
>mfw when I got exactly 1 (one) clear and joining curren "farm"-partys on Shiva is suicide
It doesn't help that my FC can't even get past P1.
>>332283547
>using Grenado shot in add phase
m8 just focus them down, they have like no hp.
>>332264285
Boy potatoes a cute. CUTE!
>>332274856
Love how the goon is the only one playing there job right
>>332281330
I wasn't expecting to get lumped into the shitter crowd when I chose cat.
At least I'm not an edgefag.
>>332283453
>Just play to have fun
MMOs are supposed to be about minmaxing and fucking people in open-PvP. Casuals like you fucking killed this shit.
>>332283607
All potatoes should be gassed! GASSED!
>>332274856
Howthe fuck does a MNK even get that low? They must actively let their stacks drop to pull that little dps.
>Hailstorm Codex has DET and PIE rather than SkS and Crit
Just end it all famiglia
>>332283606
>not AOEing adds
bad detected I bet you don't even change the turret
>>332283673
This currency garbage is way worse for MMOs than players not capping their currencies is.
>>332283205
>Above-average MCH
>never used Feint
Holy shit, is every MCH in this thread a pro while never using their skills right? What an awesome class!
>>332283739
No reason to AoE them down, I change turrets of course, but no reason to waste TP on AoE when you just focus them down, they go down quicker.
>>332283775
Yeah, there shouldn't even be a cap.
>>332281330
>be roe
>be not gay
Bueno.
>>332283829
>implying
Highest MCH parse for Sephirot on FFlogs uses 0 Feint.
>>332279874
Because devs know that the mmo players tend to be cancerous and didn't want to force you to be with them all the time?
>>332283892
If there wasn't a cap, autistic people would be full 230 on both left and right side in one day.
>>332283936
>sephirot ex
Oh wow, really cool high end content we are judging here m8.
>>332283926
>tfw Male roe
>tfw gf eb's me and we're like the only male roe x female roe couple on the whole game
Jesus christ, we're like unicorns in a sea of gays and prison gays.
>>332284000
And it would've been a good MMO.
>>332284034
It's a fight with a lot of potential movement.
But keep moving those goalposts buddy.
>>332284040
The lack of femroe players disgusts me.
>>332283606
>Rapid Fire Grenado Shot
I wish I could stop doing this.
>>332283646
you can still have peace in knowing you chose the cutest race
>>332284081
Good MMO for 1 week, and then people don't subscribe for 3 months until the next patch. Queues are dead for the last month of the patch and so much money that could have been earned is lost.
>>332284236
>implying everyone is autistic
>>332284081
>poopsockers gets bis gear in all slots in a week
>they all unsub and quit
dead mmo
It's funny, I actually LIKE the 3.x raids. Void Ark has decent mechanics that aren't literally relearning every fight over from scratch like Coil.
Admittedly Coil has some great stuff, but T9 even if you're overgeared is ridiculous.
Also, people are dumb with Seph because there's no cast bar. The fact the fight DEMANDS a level of spacial awareness and will shit on you for tunnel vision makes it difficult at times.
>Watched as a AST sat there and ate the big P1 AoE instead of running behind Seph because they weren't looking at him.
>>332284034
Go to fflogs, the top MCH players don't use Feint even in the savage modes as well.
>>332284312
Most MMO players are, so thats nothing new.
>>332284325
>but T9 even if you're overgeared is ridiculous.
What? T9 in its prime was baby mode compared to Savage Brute Justice.
>>332284340
they take quelling strikes over feint because their tank pulls without their tank stance and have the ninja shadewalker them.
>>332284102
femroe reporting in anon!Is it that rare? I only just hit 50 and I haven't seen that many.All my friends harass me for playing one, is there some meme I'm missing out on?
>>332282787
Someone's mad as hell that they suck shit and can't kill ghillie shitters.
>>332284426
Really? Because from what I hear Brute Justice isn't nearly as mechanics-heavy as T9. Honestly the devs making Midas Savage easier than Gordian Savage was great, Gordian was fucking insane.
>>332284408
>Most MMO players are
>you make a casual MMO
That's why its shit.
>>332284102
Yeah. It's pretty sad but we have a mutual love for big girls, but she's more into muscular.
The propositions for futa x futa she gets is hilarious. She'll be idle somewhere and I'll get her messaging me in a panic showing the /tell she got from somebody propositioning erp.
I usually go up to the guy, and since we have matching last names, they scuttle off and prey on some dicksuckler catgirl or something.
>>332284523
The population is the lowest, and I think female Roes are the least popular race and gender combo of them all.
>>332284515
Yes because feint isn't needed at all.
>>332278653
i like how it does not show past 3.2
>>332284567
FFXIV isn't casual once you get into the endgame though
Have you cleared savage yet mate? Don't lie, I know you haven't
>>332284563
> from what I hear Brute Justice isn't nearly as mechanics-heavy as T9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKDRsuABE-k
>>332284616
>2016/1/9
>>332284040
>eternal bond a female midlander as a femroe
>they switch to potato a week later
>then to au ra during early access
Why haven't I nulled it yet
>>332284523
We're one in a million. I've seen a total of maybe 5 others i>>332284515
n my time on tonberry.
>>332284340
>fflogs
fucking hell, that is a thing now? Why can't americans for once keep their cancerous e-peen mindset out of things that are not WoW?
>>332284638
There's really no point to Savage besides E-peen though, since the gear you get from Savage literally just helps you clear Savage s'more.
>>332278653
the far right side shows how many people earned the 3.1 story achievement
the far left side shows many players are still playing
>>332284117
I have been considering switching to Roe even though I didn't really like the look of them in the character creator
I just logged on one day and suddenly they just looked really appealing.
>>332284704
There's no point to any content in an MMO though
>>332284701
FFlogs exists to compare and analyze strategies and playstyles, if you're only concerned about e-peen contests you may be bad.
>>332284704
The point is to have fun
>>332284638
Dodging circles is hard?
I'm not resubbing you fucking jew. I quit before your savage whatever.
>>332284605
feint has its uses in pve and pvp but for hardcore progression groups and fflogs dickwavers then it's better to take quelling strikes.
>>332284704
>there is no point in clearing challenges in game thats mostly focused on pve
okay m8
keep on making excuses why you won't do savage content
>Yoshi-P was getting heated telling the team that this shouldn't be a 4-person raid!
/v/ supports this hack
>>332284804
Whatever you say, you fuckin' casual.
>>332284774
There's no point in videogames really
>>332284563
I think even a6s is more mechanics heave than t9, but I never was there in propper times, playing since HW. Just watched some guides and made it unsynch
>>332284783
where's the fun in dealing with static drama? endless wipes because someone didn't follow jump rope mechanics? all that effort that's all going to go to waste when the next patch hits and welfare gear/echo comes out?
>>332284715
I thought the left side was before 2.0
>>332284563
>Because from what I hear Brute Justice isn't nearly as mechanics-heavy as T9
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>332284892
>he thinks this is hard >>332279286
Ayy fuckin lmao.
>>332284851
>4-person
>raid
>>332284831
I don't do savage content because
A) Not high enough ilevel
B) my FC doesn't have a static
C) I work an irregular schedule so a static might be difficult
D) Given the rather hostile nature of parties who do savage and how toxic they can get I don't see a reason.
I have fun doing the non-Savage content. Hell I managed to finish CT two weeks ago.
>>332284986
Yoshida has gone mad, anon
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/001223.html?_ga=1.177022565.1722982770.1441999260
>>332281330
Fuck you I love my scale mustache.
>>332284953
>where's the fun in dealing with static drama?
Don't deal with static drama? It's called playing with friends. My group is very chill people and there's no drama. I understand that it may be frustrating when you're partying up with randoms that you only know online, but that's the thing called socializing.
Why do people get upset if you wipe once? One person screws up, says they're learning the fight, you get booted. How can you learn if you don't have experience?
If people are so demanding and you get booted for a few screw ups on mechanics or whatever, why are you immediately gutted?
"Watch the video! Watch the guide! Know what you're doing before even experiencing the fight!"
Watching a video and getting hands-on-experience are two different things.
I'll never understand.
>>332284979
Sephirot ain't what I'm talking about mate
Only 2000 players cleared A4S, Only a few hundred have cleared A8S. Get on it.
>>332284957
the 2nd column on the left side is how many total characters above level 20 are still actively playing
>>332284741
You could use your one free elixer to change if you haven't already
If I switched I think I'd do a chocolate elezen, I already have a chocolate cat.
>>332284813
quelling strikes only really needed to not pull aggro from tank on moment of pull, because you have all CDs active when both tank and NIN don't have much aggro yet. Feint isn't needed at all, you'll end up better just turning off GB in any situation you wanted to use Feint. Feint is only good for PVP
Why not make Savage like.. really hard? Raider are by nature the smallest MMO pupulations while being the biggest and loudest crybabies about it. Make a raid that is so full of mechanics and randomization, along with really long to attrition the player down so that those fuckfaces have something to bang their head against for a few months.
Yes, I think Absolute Vitue was good design.
>>332284986
master dungeons in Rift were pretty much 5 person raids. A shame they only did 2 of them because the playerbase was too casual.
>>332284679
>A8 normal ending is cool guys don't look at explosions
>A8 savage ending has everyone out of breath
It's the little things
>>332285087
Normies are ruining the farm experience.
>>332285091
Tell me when they remove the caps so I can resub and clear it all in a week. I ain't spending months again just to even get my ilvl there.
>>332285037
Absolute madman
>>332284987
Same here, absolutely no interest in Savage and content enough with everything else. I just hate that they balance the classes around it, meaning everything has to be the same so they can be 'viable' in that tiny bit of content.
>>332285150
feint is a small dps increase if its used for a small window of movement like >>332283362 said. but in most endgame encounters those don't happen often so you turning off GB would be better.
>>332264048
Nice bait for a XIV thread.
I'm Leveling Ninja.
Pretty fun class desu senpai
>>332285087
On a totally new fight it's bullshit.
On an older patches content, I get it. People have done a fight possibly hundreds of times and it's very frustrating when it takes too long.
>>332285243
Meaning?
>>332285087
impatient WoWfugees.
>>332285087
I don't get this either. Part of why I detest having to do Extreme versions of fights is precisely this. I can watch all the videos I want but until I actually do the fight and experience the mechanics first-hand I can't put any of what I learned from guides/video to practical use.
And even then something might go wrong.
>>332285037
So they did a dungeon in what what looks like i170-180 gear when everyone was already wearing i200 welfare gear? Is this what they are tuning the dungeons for? What's the point?
>>332285152
Savage is pretty hard though.
Fuck do you want, 24 hour long fights? Fuck off with that shit
>>332285142
>chocolate elezen
Do it
>>332285152
>Why not make Savage like.. really hard
Because they tried that with Gordias and realized nobody liked it.
>>332285152
They did. With Gordias Savage.
The problem is they forgot to make any midcore content, and whoops there goes >30% of the subscribers.
>>332284987
>talking shit about savage when you can't even do the content and making shitty excuses like my FC doesn't have one when one the good reason linkshells exists for static members in different FC
okay fag just shit talk when you haven't even done the content
also
>D) Given the rather hostile nature of parties who do savage and how toxic they can get I don't see a reason.
another shitty excuse
all mmo's have this problem no matter what the content is casual or hardcore
>>332285315
Nerd rage.
>>332285087
this is why you run content with your FC or friends instead of joining random PF groups who ask for perfection in a learning group.
>>332285338
Something will always go wrong. The hardest part of a raid isn't the raid itself, it's the people you're doing it with.
>>332285339
Remember Yoshida can't even do his Black Mage rotation right so that's why he found his own content hard.
>>332285376
>>332285375
>cry cry my savage is too hard
Holy shit fuck off. Either it is savage, elitist content or not. Crying it is too hard defeats the purpose.
>>332284987
Some statics can accept people with irregular schedule, they can shuffle their raid-free days anyway.
I think I was in 3 statics and there never was any toxicity inside, atmosphere was very friendly.
You can always try finding some midcore-casual static and have fun clearing raids, even if that's far from being fast clears.
>>332285384
lmao
I'm not shit-talking Savage. It exists for people who want to do tough shit. But acting like it's the best thing ever is equally dumb. Gordian was hard as balls and people got legitimately angry because it was way too difficult.
Also, didn't I say that the fact I work an irregular schedule makes being in a static difficult? Besides, linkshelling with complete strangers is not what I'm looking for.
Calm your tits, dude.
>>332285570
I like how you act like you alone know the purpose of this raid. The truth of the matter is, the game is severely lacking in midcore content, and something you're supposed to farm every week can't be too hard when rewards become 100% outdated the next patch. Nobody's gonna be doing it. Just like barely anybody was doing Gordias.
Final Coil was perfect difficulty. Top guilds cleared it right away, good players cleared it in a month, everybody else cleared it in a patch or two. But no, fucknuggets like you had to cry that it wasn't hard enough.
>Raid group still can't beat A6S
>Realize that I'll NEVER beat A8S and the mechanic mess it is with this group
>>332285286
Turning off GB -> Split/Slug + AA -> Turning back GB does a lot more damage than Feint.
Also never forget about slidecasting or whatever it's called.
>>332285570
I don't give a fuck about Savage difficulty as long as they make a normal Coil-difficulty raid for me to enjoy. Which they didn't in 3.0
>"1.0 was good"
I know /v/ is fucking contrarian but Jesus christ
>>332285648
>I'm not shit-talking Savage
>>332284704
>There's really no point to Savage besides E-peen
okay, whatever you say asshole
>>332285582
Ah, most people I see in the PF looking for members for their static seem to want fairly set schedules.
And I do Void Ark on a regular basis, well, did, I've got most of my esoteric gear and now I just gotta run Void ark to upgrade it.
I wanna do Seph EX and Thordain EX at somepoint, especially the latter for those sweet, sweet weapons.
>>332264048
why is the character creator in this game so incredibly limited?
>get burned out on combat content
>get burned out on endless tome grind
>hear that crafting/gathering doesn't get as many updates
>"cool, progression will be faster and easier"
>find out that scrips are given at a stupid low rate that makes it take EVEN LONGER than grinding out for tomes
I miss XI and vanilla WoW.
>>332285313
I don't quite share that sentiment.
That fight might be new to someone else just like the new patch fights were for you. Is it fair to treat them like a burden when they're in the same position that you used to be in?
>>332285792
PS3 limitations.
This game is so fucking good I love it so much :DD having fun with my friends is the best XDDD.
I started playing in beta but stopped after turn 5 because i realized mmos are a giant ass waste of time. I had also played WoW and FF11, as well as random ass MMOs like Maplestory and Age of conan a bit so maybe I was burned out, but basically, I realized that MMOs suck up time money and energy that can be pit into my backlog of games and other areas of my life.
On top of that, I realized I was supporting modern Square being lame. Making the FF MMOs numbered entries in the franchise still seems really fucking jewish, lame, and shitty to me.
The,final,nail in the coffin is that on Gilgamesh, most players sucked ass. Sorry faggots but back when I played gilly was chick full of morons that cant into simple fucking mechanics. I remember coming back to,the game randomly without my original group and people were failing 100 times at NORMAL ramuh because no one would kill arbiters. That shit wasnt even as hard as a WoW heroic but here we were in FF14 surrounded by fucking retards. Hell people couldnt even do the King mog fight.
All of you fags should drop the game and work on games you missed out on or need to finish. Fuck MMORPGs
https://u.pomf.is/vhhgnj.webm
BLM best class.
>>332285698
by the time your auto attack hits, it would have been longer than the GCD and you should already have GB up by then.
>>332285760
I see sometimes people recruiting for 2-3 days with flexible schedule, but they don't appear very often. Some of these groups cleared a3s when it was a thing. I don' think there's many of these groups, but they exist.
>>332285087
So people expect you to know the game before you even played the game?
>back in 1.0 the community was a lore more friendly
>encounters were reasonably hard and people were a lot more helpful
>almost 0 elitism
And now? Just look at these threads with everyone being gods gift to class X, looking down on anyone who hasn't got their Savage 8 clear and doesn't pull max dps all the time. Why did this game have to cater to the WoW audience?
>>332285851
I agree, it's unfair to treat new players that way. I just understand why it happens, and why players feel the way they do.
I'm a pretty friendly and patient player, but first timers have worn on me from time to time.
>>332286040
You got exactly what you expected?
>>332286040
here's your ffxi HD right here
>>332286145
To make money you retard
>>332286145
Lore should always take a backseat to gameplay in MMO. Just look at the stupid GC limitations in PVP or the requirement to grind a year worth of fetch quests to access expansion content. This is what happens when the lore gets a priority
>>332286182
Even 1.0 didn't capture that riveting experience of sitting in one camp in one zone for 30 hours killing the same mobs over and over for a single level.
>>332286145
back in 1.0, the community was a lot more autistic and retarded enough to pay money for that copypasted abortion of a chink game.
>>332286083
Your AA goes off right the moment you turn off GB, go check that on dummy
>>332286145
Communities in dead games are always friendly, because they don't want to scare off the 1 new recruit they might get this month.
>>332285678
Well, I suppose the midcore content is here with Midas. So why not have a raid with a new storyline where fights are inherently unfair and take up to 45 minutes or something like that. Slap an iLevel of 230 infront of it, make it clear that this is literally for those no-life people that want to be the top of the crop and call it a day.
What I don't get is that Yoshi claims he has played multiple mmos, but he choose the one mmo to copy from for everything.
Yoshi said he played Age of Conan and that supposedly had the best pvp in any mmo and what FFXIV got for pvp is a pile of shit.
>>332286145
Everyone I've talked was really friendly, and so are the people in my FC.
I don't do raiding though.
I wonder if certain servers actually do attract worse crowds
>>332286250
There is literally nothing wrong with having to do the story missions if you are a new player. Infact, they are by far the fastest and best way to gear up and level by now.
>>332285364
what face number is that?
>so much shit flinging
I'd rather say that Y'Shtola is cute and warms my heart!
>>332286486
I don't mind it principle if said story missions were not just mindless filler fetch quests. "Go there, click on an NPC" x30 is sure an awesome experience for the new player
>>332285364
If I ever decide to make a second character I will.
I don't want to get rid of my chocolate tribal cat I spent like 3 hours making, even if cats are fairly generic.
>>332286557
Dirty whore, takes all of the beast tribes cocks up the ass at the same time. Exclusively does anal only.
>>332286475
EU focused servers and giant NA servers like Gilgamesh and Balmung attract the worst kind of people.
Your best experience you can have in these type of MMOs are on medium population realms that aren't overcrowded with autistic mungs or elitists.
>>332286145
You know how people band together during natural disasters? That's what 1.0 was, except people paid to play it.
>female elezen get fuck huge shoulders on most tank and drg gear
but why
>>332286557
Even the npcs in 14 suck, because none of them are memoriable and make you give a fuck.
I mean, does anyone here really give a fuck about Thanrecd? What about Illberd and his gang? I completely forgot who he and his gang were over the five month wait between the end of 2.X to HW and I still don't totally remember his gang. For example, the lance guy that follows Illberd I can't remember who the hell he is even though the game makes it out like he's a big deal. I mean, a side character/joke like Hililbrand shouldn't be more memoriable and reconginzed than the main cast.
>>332286814
>playing a female giraffe
>not playing a class that offers sexy, scantily clad job clothes
>>332278093
Nice overheal fag
>>332286836
I just wish they had the guts to kill the Scions and restart from scratch with a fresh cast. The ones that are actually relatable and do anything else than sitting on their asses while you do their job
>>332280319
>Super Robot/Sentai is a meme now
Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
>>332286836
>Forgetting Thancred and/or Illberd
Man you're just tossing bait all over aren't you?
>>332286419
PVP was clearly an afterthought for this game, it wasn't even available at launch. The only reason they even included PVP was because the players demanded it.
I thought about getting this game, but seeing how this is both FF and an mmo I am a bit cautious.
Like if I have to claw my way up to endgame alone due to people being too busy playing dress-up doll chatroom, I may have to reconsider.
It's the best MMO out, but that's not hard to do.
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>>332286694
>Your best experience you can have in these type of MMOs are on medium population realms that aren't overcrowded with autistic mungs or elitists.
>Ausfag; happily playing on Tonberry
>malignant NA players start transferring over en masse due to rumors of "easy clears"
>they don't realise that they are the problem; that their cognitive bias of illusory superiority is blinkering them to their own incompetence
Thanks American education system. You and your "no child left behind; everyone gets a trophy" bullshit.
>>332287227
Those players are retarded to transfer to a JP server. Even if it was true that they can get easy clears, they would have to deal with much higher ping and people who don't natively speak their language.
Fucking anti-tower. I've had it on at least the last 7 Expert Roulettes.
I wish it would just fuck off. I miss Foreverreap
Is there PC + NPC romance in this game?
>>332286547
No idea, not my giraffe
>>332287079
Not that anon, but cannot bring myself to give a fuck about any NPC in this game. This includes Haurchefant whose death everyone seem to be losing their shit over. I couldn't even remember his name, had to Google it.
>>332287034
>Do everyone a favor and kill yourself.
Careful with that edge, DRK
>>332286836
>For example, the lance guy that follows Illberd I can't remember who the hell he is even though the game makes it out like he's a big deal.
Glad I wasn't the only one. I remember people in threads back then making a big deal about him too and I had no clue when we had run into him before.
There's some likeable NPCs in the sidestories such as class/job quests. If you don't remember any of them you may have justskipped the cutscenes you filthy casual
>>332287194
Play on Leviathan or Exodus, the Novice Network is really friendly and easy to hook up with other noobie/veteran players.
>>332287079
Someone like Thancred will never be as memorable as people like Celes from VI or Vivi from IX. Infact no Final Fantasy fan really cares much for the MMO characters.
>that thing you wanted finally drops
>jump with joy
>roll need
>exit duty
>realize what you just did
>>332287701
Fuck you I love Shantotto and Haurchefaunt just as much as I love Faris and Zidane
>>332287701
That's because most "real" Final Fantasy fans are weeaboos who write yaoi Cloud/Squall fanfiction, why'd you wanna associate with those?
>>332287786
>roll need
>get a 2
>>332287786
>accidentally roll greed
>get 99
>somone else wins with a need below 20
FUCK
>>332264048
Hmm the anti FF threads seem to have become more numerous as we approach Legion.
Coincidence?
>>332287890
>roll need
>get a 2
>win
>>332287786
>Run Anti-Tower god knows how many times
>Calca minion only pops up a single time
>The Bard gets it
Fuck Bards
>Daily roulette
>Antitower
>The red doll drops
>Already have the blue one
>Roll a 99
Now if only I could have such rolls on Alex NM tokens
I feel like giving raids/trials random attack orders in phases would make the game way more enjoyable. It's always a case of "oh, there was the raid wide AOE, okay, next he's going to turn, after that, a prey marker goes out." It's way too boring just doing a choreographed dance. I can understand throwing us a trial every so often that is all scripted if it's a tight mechanic knowledge check (Titan for example), but there's no reason why Midas Normal should be the same 6 attacks in a row.
>>332287786
>roll need for something I don't really need
>>332288017
>Run Anti Tower many many times
>The red doll pops up
>NEED
>Healer gets it
Fucking healers man
>subs decline
>they make body sliders
>fantasia sales skyrocket 800%
>There are WoWfugees playing this game and posting in this thread who don't even know where the Crystal Tower came from
Absolutely disgusting
>>332288271
>There are people in this thread who don't know where Calcabrina is from.
I wish I could strangle them to death
>>332288230
>that one guy who uses a fantasia like once a month
Meanwhile I still have my free veterancy reward one and no plans on ever using it.
Where am I supposed to get better gear as a new player?
level 25 and I noticed I was getting kinda mauled in dungeons as tank, like almost dying a few times
>>332288645
Market Board.
>>332264048
>Go back after playing BDO and BnS
>Realise how good ff14 characters faces are
>Then realise how fucking horrible our assets are
seriously no ass, no tits, since when is ok for the country that created hentai to make less stacked characters, if anything they should be leading, my character looks so fucking ugly compare to my jin it kinda piss me off, because I love everything else about the game aesthetics wise.
>>332288356
>There are people in this thread who laugh at kids who complain about Sephirot being wasted on some ugly demon while simultaneously complaining that Valefor was wasted on some trash mob in Crystal Tower
>>332288748
>no tits
Play femroe or fem highlander. Both have pretty decent sized tits, though a lot of gear mashes them down.
>>332288561
Will never understand why someone would constantly fantasia. I mean unless its for a new race, make the character you're happy with and stick to it.
>>332288645
quest areas around your level should have NPCs that sell gear that suits your level.
>>332288853
issue is I don't want to look like a man even more, already a fem highlander, but is too late the damage is done, I accepted that I am not playing the game to glamour anymore but to enjoy the music and great content
>>332285862
>tfw have no friends and get bullied by a blonde highlander
good thing i watch anime, like attack on titan and one punch man, to help me get through this painful time
>X MMO thread
>X can be BDO, Wildstar, WoW, etc.
>Always constantly shitposted by people claiming FFXIV is the pinnacle of MMOs and the best thing ever
>FFXIV thread
>Entire thread is full of people criticizing the game and saying how it's dying
I don't get it. Who's right?
>>332288856
>make the character you're happy with and stick to it.
That's probably why people constantly fantasia.
They fantasia'd to switch things up a bit but haven't been able to find a character they are pleased with again.
>>332289024
The one good thing about the server I'm in that everyone is so receptive to good anime, like aforementioned.
Only in Phoenix can I get riveting discussions about the differences of FMA 2003 anime and FMA:Brotherhood.
With a bit of a French twist! Haha! Le see you there ;).
>>332288645
>25
Check the market board; often times you'll find tons of particular NQ items listed for dirt cheap (due to them being rewarded by levequests).
Failing that, run dungeons for gear or do more sidequests. Don't fall into the trap of paying for vendor gear because it's trash and it's relatively expensive.
>>332288856
I fantasia once every six months just to have a change of pace. I've gone from cat, to au ra, to lala and to hyur. In four months I will probably change to elezen
>>332286836
>he doesn't remember the Hildebrand quest line NPCs
>didn't get a chuckle out of the school elf cameo in 3.15
>>332286836
Dont you remember Raubahn or Holyfist?.
>>332264048
>FF14 is good because there's not other MMORPG worth playing
>not because the game is great
Archeage could be great , but man the jews killed the game
>>332283892
Idm there being a cap, i just wish the damn thing would carry over 1 week so if you're busy 1 week you don't lose out
>>332289448
After taking 3 classes to 60 and all to at least 30, I am comfortable in saying Monk had the best quest line.
>gathering lightning crystals in central thanalan
>these bots
>pugilists teleporting around
>>332289772
Pugilist was good. Monk was garbage.
>>332289792
*Teleports behind you*
What did you say punk
>>332289772
Shit I still gotta do the rogue quest line. I got it up to 9 and then just kinda left it to keep stabbing shit with a stick.
>>332289772
PGL and DRK are pretty good.
Fucking Holyfist and Fray.
>>332288770
Except that valefor looks nothing like the Valefor from III and most people would remember it from X they just recycled a monster from XI
That's what I was getting at yesterday you lack of reading comprehension cucks.
Call me a hipster but my favourite class/job story isScholar
>>332289907
Rogue's pretty good but holy shit the dialogue is the worst thing ever.
>>332289842
Sorry, pugilist is what I meant. Monk through 50 sucked, Monk in HW was redeemable though.
>>332290046
Scholar and Astrologian are both god tier job quests because they have consistent characters with clear motivations and elaborate on the game lore not normally seen during the main scenario.
>>332283694
That's a funny way to spell 'aura'
>>332290419
I'm holding on to the hope that we will get another Nym themed dungeon.
Wanderer's Palace is neat and all but it is not very visually impressive or tell us anything about Nym.
Also I feel bad about killing tonberries in normal mode.
>>332290071I have a really heavy cockney speaking uncle who visits like once a month. This shit is fucking small time
Oh boy I wonder where the boss battles are going to take place on this map?
Gas the lalas race war meow.
>Why/how do people still play this garbage?
I unsubbed recently and will delete the game soon, sick of farming tomes and they will never make the game look or play better, they should nuke it again, remake it without console limitations and with asses.
>>332290880
>bottom right
Atomos confirmedSTAND ON THE FUCKING PLATFORM C YOU ILLITERATE FUCKS
>tfw your FC is fucking dead
>>332290960
Kill yourself pedo
>>332290996
Loot the FC chest of anything of worth.
>>332290880
Three new Lucavi demons/ dark primals starting with Belias the Gigas
>>332286836
I don't know what you're talking about anon. 14 has pleby of memorable npcs
>>332291071
There's still one person who logs in consistently every few days and they're my only friend in-game. They're basically the unofficial FC leader and I just couldn't do that to them ;_;
>>332291070
You're the pedo lalascum.
>>332290880
What is this even a map of?
>>332291356
The next 24 man raid.
>>332291267
Obtain FC leadership.
Kick everyone.
Loot the chest.
Sell the house.
Make a new friend.
>>332290880
Please no more gimmicks mini bosses where you have to depend on the other alliances to not be fucking retarded.
>>332291771
Yeah, fuck cooperation in MMO
>>332291771
>where you have to depend on the other alliances to not be fucking retarded.
Stop playing on NA servers where you cunts fight for aggro rather than just letting B Alliance take the main boss.
>resub a month ago, try clearing Seph EX via PF for two weeks 14% best attempt before enrage
>clear A5S and A6S w/ new static
>still no fucking Seph EX clear because static doesn't want to help me do ONE CLEAR
I don't even know what to do, I finally asked last weekend and people dispersed into a frenzy dodging the clear; maybe it's because I'm a mute in voice chat...
>>332291198Who?
>>332291816
Cooperation is one thing, dealing with retards that won't stand on the pad is another.
>>332281330
>tfw cool homo roe combo
>>332291846
pretty sure he means fights like atomos in CT where alliance A has to stand on a platform so alliance C can kill their miniboss
>>332292067
nin quest meme man
Why don't self loathing fans just stop playing already? It's clear you don't like the game but you spend 6+ hours a day playing it.
Just unsub you autist.
>>332291959
They don't want you to have a 220 weapon?
What weirdos.
>>332292271
If he has been doing savage he could already have a lore weapon (I think)
>>332292271
Raid leader mentioned last weekend he wanted to help me get ten clears out of fear I would lose hate when inside A6S... But that didn't become the case yesterday. Once we cleared A6S, everyone left the PT and I proceeded to start up FFXI.
I'm at the point I'm just going to get my i230 weapon and forget about Seph EX.
R8 my chocolate elf alt.
I plan to just play dress up with her.
>>332292729
semen demon / 10
>>332292547
I got all my seph ex clears without help from my FC or their static.
Its mostly a question of playing a role that lets you cover for people's mistakes.
Which if you ask me is healing.
>tfw only class I bother putting gear into is PLD
>dont mind the mechanics of midas/etc
>every single wipe I learn why we wipe, don't die to it unless I screw up
>FC is full on casual
>I want to clear slowly while learning how it works
>cant find anyone that learns from their mistakes like I do
>just like Titan EX all over again
>small server so I can't buy a clear
>came back so late that everyone that needed a clear already got one
is WAR still the best tank?
>Tfw friend tells me he hates the game
>The current content is stale
>The guild is dying
>It's not fun to play
>He's only playing it because he has been playing it for a long time.
The best part about the friend? He'sYou.
>>332293032
I'm not your friend faggot
>>332293014Goblin?.
So what are the odds of 210 relic weapon step getting nerfed in 2.25
>>332293031
worst tank now, actually
>>332293162Jenova
Why are monks so uncommon? It might be the least played class in the game from my nonscientific observations.
>>332293146
I'm not your faggot, queer.
>>332293283
>start Pugilist
>get to 1st dungeon
>new tank has fucking parkinsons
>cant stay still
>too much work to put in positionals
>fuck this class
>>332281330
>>332281816
>Be cat
>Be very good, but not a dick about it
>tfw someone in a dungeon compliments me
I guess I'm in the minority
>>332293031
yes
>>332293462
>be cat
>fc sees me sitting down and /pet
>get rank of "house cat"
>get bullied by ally FC, all the bullies arehyur women
help
>>332293673
I've seen you post this before.
You should probably kill yourself.
>>332274856
>tfw levelled ninja to 60
>realize I don't have any fucking idea how this class works
My DRG at this ilvl was doing a solid 1200-1300 dps
On my nin I can barely break 900, how the fuck does this class work? I prioritize huton>the slash debuff whatever its called>shadow whatever the blue DoT>mutilate and then I aeolian edge hard as I can using raiton on every ninjutsu unless trick attack is up, then I use suiton
what the fuck am I doing wrong to be parsing so low?
>>332293014
>>332293276
Know how you feel. My FC has like only 3 notable raid ready people, one who farms like crazy.
There is a static is Pirate Bay who has an inactive tank. Managed to fill the spot and beat A5S. I think you gotta be real patient on this server
>>332293854
You open up as hardballer as you can, mashing as much damage as physically possible into trick attack along with the DoTs
After that you keep up the slash debuff, rotate DoTs, make sure Huton doesn't fall off, and make sure to use your ninjutsus when they come off CD along with the oGCDs
I get like idk, 1300 or so in my 203 gear but I had to look up a really badass opener
>>332293673
Hyur women are so jealous of cats.
>>332293854
your DPS depends on the fight, your gear, and if you're lining up your weaponskills and abilities correctly. your abilities should be weaved into your weaponskills so they are on cooldown always.
>>332293389
>judging a class by how it plays in DF Sastasha with scrubs
thanks for the laugh
>>332279286
SAY MY NAME, SAY MY NAME!
>>332293283
According to that one official statistic, MCH was the least played class. But that may have changed ever since 3.2
>>332294247
SEPHIROT
>>332279691
>implying having to play through the story of the main game is a bad thing compared to the "P...ppp...ppplease....b.b..buy our..g.g.game here have a free level 100 character...oh god please"
>>332294393
I heard the chinese version of ff14 has a skip to 50 thing.
Totally unsure on this please feel free to correct me, I personally think it's a rumor though.
>>332294450
They haven't implemented it yet, but they are thinking of doing it because the game isn't doing so well in China. They are way behind in content (still haven't gotten Heavensward yet), F2P is more popular than P2P over there, and publisher issues.
>>332279981
For ARR to Heavenward I was okay with it as a new player, it was a lot of content but I get that it was necessary.
But going forward from Heavensward into the beyond, they're seriously going to have to come up with an alternative for new players. Otherwise people will be locked out of doing any endgame stuff by a giant 300 hour brick wall of shitty voice acting and filler quests, and it's going to make a lot of people quit
>>332285679
where are you in the fight after how many lockouts
>>332294621
Yeah I'm wondering how they're going to handle this going forward. Yeah the story is okay and I enjoyed it, but asking new players to go through hundreds of hours of story just to get to the endgame is going to be a bit much starting from the next expansion. A lot of people thought it was too much for HW.
1.0 > 2.0
>>332294860
Simple, they're going to completely bypass it probably.
>>332294930
They could just sum up the events with a video instead of having people go through all those fetch quest filler content.
>>332294910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW5DnpidMiY
>>332294262
Link to statistic? Does it have all classes? I assume PLD is also down there.
>>332278739
>tfw brushing aside lore caps to level crafters and paladin
>tfw i'll never finish the old 2.X EX primals at this rate
Not even mad, getting a lucky HQ feels so good
>>332279410
What's wrong with Bismarck? I thought the fight was pretty fun and the music was great.
>>332295028
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/11dec6b5329c72e663f5f11e5ee8ff1bcf34c5ae
This was taken back in September before 3.1 was released.
>>332285679
>tfw you're one of the only good people in a shitty raid group
>Trying to find another group is impossible
>Everyone is either super hardcore and wants you to take off from work when a new patch drops
>Or sucks like your current group
This is why I gave up on endgame. I'm good enough to be in a hardcore group but I can't raid fucking 30 hours a week. Theres no middle ground. Its either super hardcore or super casual.
>>332294681
>you will never use Raya-e-samas horns as handlebars as you facefuck her
I'd come back to the game if white mage was actually made the best healer.
That's been the whole point of the class since FF1 right? Healing? Doing it better than everyone else?
Yea nah. The crafting system is also kinda retarded. Boss fights are great but with 1 second global cooldowns the game is hardly fun. Fucking consoles ruined another game.
>>332295242
White Mage has the largest raw heals out of all the healing jobs in the game. They are essential to PVE content.
I'm debating quitting just because of how frustrated I got last night trying to do the latest instance shit, no checkpoints so I had to redo the same damn bit four times before I finally beat it. I understand getting frustrated at dark souls or something but I can usually just relax and play with my friends on FF, not that time though
>fuck you, one armed piece of shit
>sultana can sit on my face, though
>>332286836
Story and character only got good in Heavensward. Ysayle, Estinien, HW Alphinaud, Haurchefaunt. All great characters. It kind of feels like there were completely different writers from ARR to HW
>>332286016
Damn you stop making me want to play again. I didn't think I would like BLM but I kinda enjoyed the fire/ice stance swapping I had to do when I was levelling up for swiftcast.
>>332295214
If you can do 16 go midcore.
>>332294387
The Seventh Hell's become your Seventh Heaven
>>332295178
Huh, not nearly as lopsided as I thought. Newer/HW locked classes are obviously lower but everything else seems alright.
>>332295518ROSE OF REDEMPTION BUT A THORN IN YOUR PRIDE
>>332295681Waste no more time fighting your demons
>>332295737
Lay down your arms and
LET
THE
EVIL
INSIDE
>>332289907
Rogue and Ninja are one of the better class questlines in my opinion (the level 30 quest was cool as shit) but holy shit what this guy said >>332290071
I had to get brit in my fc to decipher what the fuck was being said in these quests
>>332295817
AND THEN YOU LET IT INSIDE!
>>332295868
and then you let it inside
>>332288072
Yeah, I get what you're saying but you have to understand how awful the playerbase is. People would bitch and moan about shit being too hard if fights had random orders for attacks.
>not replacing sephirot's 2nd phase theme with the biohazard theme from sonic adventure 2
do you even autism?
How much more capable is the PS4 compared to the PS3?
I enjoy it, guess I'm an odd ball though.
>>332296005
PS3's biggest offender is RAM, the PS4 has much more.
>>332295897
And then you let it inside!
>>332296196
And then you LET IT INSIDE
>gotten weapons for my main jobs from the wild ride that is PF sephirot
>still have 7 totems and two jobs at 60 without sephirot weapons
>tempted to get on it again
>>332296045
I just finished The Vault a couple days ago.RIP Haurchefant, I will never forget how no one else in all of Eorzea appreciated my help as much as you.
>>332296258
You let you eat you until there's nothing left at all
>>332296005
PS3 runs at 720p and often has framerate drops below 30 and never goes higher, quality looks like medium settings of the DX9 client on PC.
PS4 runs at 1080p and the framerate varies from 60 to 30 depending on the area, quality looks like max setting of the DX9 client on PC.
>>332288561
This. I couldn't imagine playing anything other than catgirl for some reason. I have all the reward fantasias and even had the chance to remake my character from 1.0 to ARR but all I've done is change my hair a couple of times.
>>332296439
So you can feel that you are truly alive!
>>332295014
horrible gameplay aside, i fucking love the sound effects of everything in 1.0, wish i got to play it
>>332296495
Better to serve in a waking nightmare
>>332289294
Vendor gear is actually alright up until the 30s and even after depending on your server's economy. But yeah always check the market board first.
>>332296176
>>332296456
Thanks.
>>332296045
A few days ago I came across someone with a spot-on Haurchefant character. Also, what's up with the French naming conventions in this game? Maybe I just don't get it because I'm not really an FF fan.
>>332296606
than rule in their paradise
>>332296475
Good thing you can just pay 2000 gil for a makeover.
>>332296671
Elezen have french names.
>>332290960
>loli mi'qote
Pls Yoshi make this playable
>>332296684
What is gold always glitters
>>332296475
Why were the first coil healer/caster sets so good?
I'm especially fond of that little crystal.
>>332296912but it still comes with an unpayable price
>>332296787
>those legs
>loli
lmao
>>332296732
Ah, I should have guessed. I don't know how I didn't put that together sooner.
>>332296982
Treading [] stagnant waters
>>332297058[out upon the]
I see you waiting for a turn in the tide
>>332296446
>Dat cameltoe
>>332283735
Deaths : 3
>dark knight questline
>>332296732
french-ish would be more accurate
>See a catgirl
>it's a guy irl
>See a catguy
>it's a girl irl
Wtf is wrong with people
>>332296935
I fucking loved that chest so much. Bonus that it seemed to match with Thyrus so well. It was my first coil drop too. Healing turn 4 in darklight was an absolute nightmare, well the only thing that sucked was healing through double dreadnaught hitting one tank part.
why the fuck won't ACT work
I want to know if I'm a shitter
>>332297634
Run as administrator, double check to make sure your firewall isn't blocking it.
>>332297565
Are you sincerely shocked that is the average MMO player that comes from nippon island and 1/2 the playerbase are anime as fuck?
>>332297779
Oh, right. I'll give that a go, ta.
>>332297569
Dyeable coil gear was a gift from the heavens.
>>332297634
run as admin
