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http://gamingbolt.com/nintendo-nx-hardware-specs-games-third-party-support-and-everything-you-need-to-know
>So, here is everything that we know about the NX hardware:
>It absorbs the Wii U architecture in some form
>It is a common platform across the new handheld and console
>It is using either x86 or ARM as its base
>t is going to have a brand new ‘concept’ or gimmick
>It is not being designed insularly in Japan- Nintendo seems to have hired someone from America to head the development of the system
>AMD may be designing the chipsets of the platform
All the clues are there that it will be a fairly normal system.
>fairly normal system
...with no games. Nothing to see here. This is what happens when companies stagnate for nearly two decades.
Steve Jobs couldn't save this mess of a company.
>>332124414
>no games
Maybe because it's not even fucking released yet?
>>332124623
The Gamecube barely had games.
The Wii had what? 3 mediocre flagship titles?
Wii U has nothing.
NX will have flagship titles that kill their respective series.
>>332124414
it will have plenty of games when the home console and handheld libraries are one in the same
>>332124091
>Nintendo
>consoles
*yawn*
>>332124819
What in God's name are you talking about
>>332124091
How would it absorb the Wii U's PowerPC-based architecture while using x86 or ARM as its base?
Making it literally have two processing units like the Wii U sort of has now (the GX and GX2) is an expensive solution, especially if they add even more gimmicks to the mix.
Can someone explain to me how they know any of this shit?
screencap this post, im calling it
the controller is going to be like the wii u's in some way (controller/screen combo) except it on it's own is a fully functional handheld that can operate without the main console
As someone who used to think Nintendo was pretty chill, I actually feel bad. The Wii was successful because it was the first to market, but ended up being severely underpowered and basically forgotten by the end of the generation, then the exact same thing happened with the Wii U, first to market, severely underpowered, but this time without any success because a) people knew the console was underpowered this time and b) nintendo marketed it fucking terribly.
Now with this console they're fucking themselves in the mouth instead of the ass by releasing a console LATER in the gen, when everyone has already adopted current gen consoles. It's really sad.
>>332124091
A lot of Nintendo's hardware development is in Seattle though.
>>332124819
Wii having nothing. except xenoblade x, bayonetta, mario kart 8, smash, pokken. Thats more than xbone and ps4 combined
>>332124938
The only thing that's going to do is make their next handheld and it's 5 variants less profitable than they already aren't.
>>332124091
>>It is using either x86 or ARM as its base
Given you can't do mobile x86 it's ARM
>>t is going to have a brand new ‘concept’ or gimmick
DOA
>>It is not being designed insularly in Japan
Haha yeah right
>>332125009
What are you talking about? Nothing, apparently.
>>332124819
then pray tell what are those great games on the other systems I am missing out on?
>nintendo hired someone from america to head the developement of the system
There's the red flag. That's it right there.
Huge red flag.
>>332125018
everybody already knows that dipshit
>>332125109
Dudebros disagree.
>>332124091
>going to have a new gimmick
>All the clues are there that it will be a fairly normal system.
>>332125161
Anon...
http://www.amazon.com/ZenFone-Unlocked-Cellphone-Black-Warranty/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=sr_1_4?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1459040703&sr=1-4&keywords=zenfone+2
>>332125241
Didn't Sony do the same?
>>332125271
And how many phones are "ZENFONES"?
You can't go it alone in the tech sector. You either do what everyone else is doing or you destroy everyone else through a stunning innovation or you're rendered irrelevant. Mobile x86 is not a stunning innovation.
>>332125083
If the PS4.5 rumor is true it pretty much means people will buy anything
>>332125414
No idea. I don't follow or care about Sony products at all whatsoever.
>>332124819
>gamecube barely had any games
I love this meme. It had 10 solid games released within the first 18 months, the same amount the Pii U had across its entire lifetime.
>>332125517
I don't have 10 GCN games TOTAL. Meanwhile I have 25 PS2 ones
>>332125465
I highly doubt the PS4K will be even remotely successful. The main market is people who don't already have PS4s and the userbase for that console is already pretty solidified. Coupled with the fact that you don't actually NEED the console for anything, it's basically DOA.
>>332124091
>Here's what we know:
>Describes a featureset that is not only predictable, but completely non-commital
Gee, great article.
>The NX remains an engima
No shit, because this article is speculation bullshit without a shred of evidence.
>>332125214
>thread about X and nothing else
>deflects to Y and Z for no reason beyond stupidity
Have you ever had an actual discussion with somebody?
>>332125018
that'll be an expensive disaster.
>>332125015
>How would it absorb the Wii U's PowerPC-based architecture while using x86 or ARM as its base?
OP here. That's the part that I think raises an eyebrow. In the linked article, they are fairly adamant that PowerPC is a dead end and Nintendo won't use it anymore. Maybe Nintendo would feel comfortable doing what Microsoft did for Xbone BC -- selected ports that give you a free download when you put a supported disc in or have a 360 digital copy on your account. Of course, this method would mean the NX would have an optical drive.
I suppose there is the possibility that Nintendo would use the same CPU core again, just on a smaller process, adding cores, and overclocking. Or it could be powerful enough for pure software emulation. I think adding in a small version of the Wii U CPU strictly for BC or migrating to something like POWER7+ or POWER8 seem highly, highly unlikely.
>>332125603
Not him but do you really think anyone here gives a shit about how many games you personally own? I own zero Dreamcast games. I don't even own a Dreamcast. Must mean the Dreamcast had no games because I'm literally fucking retarded.
>>332125446
>you can't do X
>but here's an example of X
>y-yeah well, let me just move my goalposts
Lmao
>>332125723
Why? That is the only way the ycan have a next gen handheld. I mean can you imagine them releasing the 4DS and it selling 30m lifetime? They'd be laughed out of the stock exchange rooms
>>332125514
Well why is it a red flag?
>>332125446
Mobile x86 isn't a stunning innovation, but that doesn't mean its infeasible or irrelevant.
The Zenfone 2 is pretty top class in terms of its performance for price, and many Acer / Lenovo tablets use Atom chipsets.
Granted, I doubt Ninty would collaborate with Intel given their ties with AMD and that throws power-efficiency out the window for the NX, but it's not impossible that the main console unit could be running x86-64 like the other modern consoles while a controller console runs a basic ARM mainboard.
Backwards compatibility with the Wii U & Wii is a given because Nintendo will want to sell those games on the eshop.
I think Nintendo will release a GameCube VC this year sometime for the Wii U so that would carry over as well.
>>332125781
>I'm literally fucking retarded.
That's all I needed to know
>>332125879
To be fair, last time they did that it backfired on them so hard that it literally created their main industry competition.
>>332125858
their handheld will be unsuccessful anyway. if they attempt to merge their console and handheld it'll just be a more expensive non-success.
>>332125684
Not that anon but
>Calls x complete shit for no reason
>Asks if someone else has ever had a conversation with someone because of their equally dumb response to your equally dumb shit
Pot, meet kettle.
>>332125798
"You can't do X" doesn't mean you physically can't do it. It means you can't do it because you'd be retarded if you did
>>332124091
>t is going to have a brand new ‘concept’ or gimmick
Nintendo, please stop. I know you got lucky with the Wii motion controls, but stop trying to force this shit on every single system you make.
>>332125979
nice rebuttal my man
>>332126038
They haven't consented to going full 3rd party yet so they have to do something
>>332126014
Those were different circumstances.
>>332126062
>implying you even knew what a zenphone was before he linked you
>>332126086
The "gimmick" may be that the entire NX library is playable across form factors, just with assets scaled up or down depending on the form factor. This would point more towards being a cartridge or digital system
>rumor
I think they should rename it to clickbait.
I'm going laugh my ass if NX turns just to be just a handheld console.
>>332126224
If I don't know what it is that means it's obscure as fuck, thus irrelevant and thus a failure. So yeah, x86 mobile is retarded.
Would you honestly care if Nintendo died within the next few years? I'm not suggesting that they will, but I'm just curious how the Nintendo fans on here feel. They aren't making the games that you want, and the ones that they are making leave a lot to be desired to say the least.
>>332126086
This. Funny thing is at this point doing no gimmicks would be considered a gimmick for Nintendo.
>>332126107
Ok, here's your real rebuttal. You were right not to buy the Dreamcast. It's shit. I don't have one either.
>>332124091
>fairly normal system
>It is going to have a brand new 'concept' or gimmick
ITS OVER, NINTENDO IS FUCKING FINISHED. NORMAL MY ASS.
>NX controller leak turned out fake
>relief
>"JUST KIDDING, ITS STILL GOING TO BE A GIMMICKY PILE OF SHIT
ITS OVERRRRRR
>>332126375
Not really, no. They will never make another 2D Metroid or Advance Wars so they're mostly useless to me now. It might actually be good since maybe someone will buy Monolith and let them make shit on a console that isn't shit.
>>332124091
You forgot to add
>Its going to bomb because Nintendo refuses to just make a normal console
>>332124819
>NX launch titles
>Skyward Sword 2
>Federation Force 2
>Paper Mario Color Splash NX
>Super Mario 3D World 2
Rip In Pepperoni NX.
>>332126391
>doing no gimmick
What are the NES, SNES, n64 and gamecube
>B-but cartridges and mini disks were gimmicks!
No they weren't, fuck off.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-in-theory-nintendos-next-gen-hardware-and-the-strategy-behind-it
>Around 18 months ago, during an informal chat with an extremely well-placed individual in the hardware manufacturing business, an interesting nugget of information dropped into the conversation - Nintendo was already accepting pitches from third parties on the hardware make-up of its successor for Wii U. Two names were mentioned: AMD and Imagination Technologies, creators of the PowerVR mobile graphics tech. With the lack of backing sources, that little aside never made it to print, but as Nintendo strives to bounce back from the Wii U sales disappointment, eyes inevitably turn towards future platforms.
It should be noted that Imagination also owns and offers MIPS CPUs alongside their PowerVR GPU. The N64 used a MIPS processor.
https://imgtec.com/mips/architectures/mips64/
>Imagination’s MIPS64® architecture has been used in a variety of applications including game consoles, office automation and set-top boxes, and maintains popularity today in networking and telecommunications infrastructure applications.
>>332125517
Gamecube had less games than the OG Xbox, the "No Games Box"
>>332124091
>>It absorbs the Wii U architecture in some form
>>It is using either x86 or ARM as its base
>>332126732
Mini discs at the time WERE GIMMICKS.
Nobody can deny this.
Sony were using Discs.
Handhelds were using cartridges.
SEGA, Xbox, etc, etc.
NOBODY used those fucking midget discs, expect Nintendo. Because of course, having the N64 lose to the PS1 didn't mean to finally move on to normal discs, they had to make a half way market instead of keeping up with technology.
>>332126793
>AMD
God I hope not, I'm tired of consoles using their fucking garbage.
>>332127204
>Mini discs at the time WERE GIMMICKS.
No, they were a money saving platform.
If they used DVD, they would have to pay Sony royalties on every DVD, because they are the partial owner of DVD.
>>332126793
Why would they use MIPS? The only thing they can use now if they want western devs to actually make games for them is either x86 or ARM.
>>332124967
>consoles
>*yawn*
There you go, sport
>>332127340
>Pay Sony royalties on every DVD
So Xbox and Nintendo now pay Sony for every game DVD they sell? There is no way you can be this fucking retarded.
>>332126375
That's a lot of companies nowadays, if they die, the rest deserve to die as well.
>>332127496
Every DVD built into the hardware, you dumb fuck.
Microsoft pays a few cent royalty per blueray.
It's not much though, only a few cents on the dollar per system.
>>332126375
Realistically speaking, if ninty were to die from financial complications, someone would probably snatch up the brand for the name recognition even if it were just to sell merch.
It's just too much of a household name.
>>332124091
The best part of the wii-u pad was to allow developers to create their own control schemes on the touch pad
>>332127447
I don't think they'd want to use MIPS, but it was reported that both Sony and MS considered MIPS for their latest consoles so I'm not sure the console industry really gives a shit about what the PC industry and its devs are doing.
If the compiler can get the code up and running, nobody will care.
>>332127916
And no developers did this.
>>332127736
>It's not much though, only a few cents on the dollar per system.
It's enough where Microsoft wanted to ditch it entirely.
>>332127990
Western devs specifically demanded x86 to make the code as portable as possible though. Most western devs not owned by Sony or MS have a PC version of their games.
>>332128092
MS are dumb. They can't force a discless future that fast.
>>332124091
Nice article, good read.
>>332124091
Let me fix that for you.
So, here is everything that we know about the NX hardware:
>>332128146
>Western devs specifically demanded x86 to make the code as portable as possible though.
Can you link me to that?
It's been stated by multiple people working in Nintendo of Japan that a finished unit of the Nintendo NX was placed in the gave next to the urn holding Iwata's cremated remains. Unless someone plans on tomb robbing, you might as well all just wait for Nintendo to announce it.
>>332125684
>comparative analysis is not a discussion
Why don't you kill yourself since you clearly don't know shit about anything
>>332124819
Have another (You)
>>332128291
Yeah, nice article.
100% speculation. But nice.
>>332127204
>They were gimmicks
No they weren't. An anti piracy measure isn't a gimmick, it's just stupid.
>>332128515
why the fuck would they bury iwata with a game console you fucking retard
>>332125939
People still think GameCube Virtual Console is happening? Wow, that's some crazy faith in Nintendo you have.
>>332124091
Why didn't Nintendo just sell a Wii U without the gamepad? The thing alone costs like 180 dollars, it's half the price of the console, the only thing it's mandatory for is for the system settings and like 2 or 3 games tops which could be easily be fixed with an update.
>>332128510
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PlayStation-Cell-x86-Michael-Denny-Architecture,21479.html
>>332124414
>nintendo
>no games
what kind of bizarro world are you living in, their consoles may be sub par but their output of mid to high quality games is absolutely unmatched
I hear PowerPC is basically dead so if they want to go with better tech than Wii U they essentially can't use PowerPC
>>332129276
If you like Mario's Happy Bouncy Fun Time games sure
>>332125015
Nintendo buys Dolphin Emulator CONFIRMED
>>332124819
>The Gamecube barely had games
The gamecube had almost as much incredible games as the PS2
>>332129369
Simply epic
>>332128715
Because it was considered to be his "Last great project"
>>332128721
Hacked systems can run it, so it's not that unlikely. SNES VC just happened on n3DS so who knows.
Nintendo should start selling pussy on the street
>>332128515
You got the story partially wrong. The NX was Iwata's personal prototype. They cremated Iwata with the NX so that even after he went to the afterlife he could still play and enjoy all the games that his former friends and colleagues would make.
>>332124091
>Posted August 16th, 2015
>>332129653
They had love hotels back in the 70s
>>332128721
It's funny because GameCube Virtual Console was promised for Wii.
>>332130228
Source?
>>332130082
If the system is coming out in 2016, it would probably be mostly done in the later half of 2015.
>>332129662
>>332129437
and lackluster sales to go with it. I loved the gamecube but it was not successful
