Will a game ever surpass VtMB?
I CAN'T STOP LISTENING TO THE FUCKING SONG
It takes too much effort to beat it in the areas it stands out.
Why bother when you can make open world single player MMOs with cookie cutter quests that sell multiple million copies?
ISOLATION
And I
>>332110917
http://dogma-universe.com/en/
>>332111524
hear the voice of a smaller god?
I wanna show you something...
>>332110917
I really liked this game'sfonts.
>>332111697
>MMORPG
>kikestarter
>Unity
All the cancer combined.
>>332111336
which one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ndz4DwTpQ8
>>332111348
i feel sorry who played vtmb and half life 2 back when they dropped in 2004 and thinking the coming years will be great for videogames
no and it awesome seeing vampire fans butthurt their baby shit will never be picked up again.
>>332112393
jesus christ
>>332110917
Pretty much any classic cRPG from the '90s surpasses it.
>>332114164
too old
>>332114351
If you're 13, maybe
>>332111697
Yeah this'll never see the light of day. It's like a bunch of 14 year old kids decided hey guys let's make the bestest vampire game in the world with thousands of people and demons and werewolves and everything.
>>332114415
Go play Ars Magica or something you hipster faggot lmaooo
Is the pnp gamefun?
>>332115083
that depends entirely on the people you play it with.
>>332115159
I'm screwed, none of my friends ever played an pnp rpg.
>>332110917
VtMB is not that great.
Remember the entire last third of the game?
>>332115771
Name a better vampire rpg game.
>>332116085
>rpg game
redemption :)
>>332116145
You must have a very low opinion of Bloodlines, then.
>>332110917
Did you only play it for an hour?
Anything can surpass that rushed, unbalanced, bug-ridden shitshow
>>332115771
>VtMB is not that great.
>>332117880
He's right
Nah Vampire games suck nowadays. Be glad we even got this in the first place.
>>332117950
this game truly is something special, the atmosphere in this game is unprecedented
>vtmb was a good game meme
let it die
>>332117950
There hasn't been another Vampire game since Bloodlines. There's been games with vampires but saying they're related to VtM is like saying Far Cry Primal is the sequel to Demon's Souls since they both have spears.
>>332118060
Yeah, let it die!
IT STILL IS AFTER ALL.
>>332118242
all i remember coming out was Dark and it was a piece of shit
oh wait and this one http://store.steampowered.com/app/280600
i enjoyed that one you could tell the creator loved vtmb
>>332118313
>laughable animations
>bugs running rampant throughout
>very bad combat
>some truly terrible level design
But you overlook all of this for your stupid titty waifus
>>332117950
>Vampire games suck
funny
>>332119019
Because some people can look past shit to find the good/fun in shit.
Some people enjoy things, regardless of their flaws.
>>332119019
There are many unoficial patches that make all that go away.
DO SOME RESEARCH plz.
About the level design, i guess u have to be a bit more specific, after all that warewolf scene, that was brilliantly made. So, wich part does the level design falls flat.
>>332120657
kek the only thing the unofficial patches fix is stability
>mods fix it
best meme ever
>>332121017
>the only thing the unofficial patches fix is stability
Good thing bugs running rampant throughout is literally the only valid criticism of >>332119019 then.
>>332112937
Anon you have no idea
>>332115083
Mechanically it's okay. Keep in mind it attracts all sorts of weirdos and special snowflakes like you.
>>332118657
>looks literally like vtmb
>these system requirements
Fuck this shit, I better keep playing nes games until I got a job.
I've never played VtMB because I didn't have a PC at the time. What mods are recommended for someone going into the game in 2016?
>>332124334
Unofficial mod and that's it.
>>332119019
>bad level design
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHah
>>332124421
How does the game stand up graphically? I wouldn't want to butcher it in any way, but are there any mods that upscale it well?
>>332124795
Just get the patch and play. It's one of the best games I've played.
It's not even as good as Deus Ex.
>>332125531
(You)
>>332126203
he's right deus ex is better in every way other than graphics
The Hollywood section was the best part of the game. this is a fact.
Secret World is everything we could hope from sequel to VtMB concentrated on hunters.
>>332111348
Literally uninstalled Far Cry after maybe 30 min today because it was the exact shit as many other games in the recent past.
Horrible and boring. I feel sorry for anyone who paid money for this mess-
Where to?
>>332127057
which far cry
>>332110917
The first hour of it was brilliant, then it all went to shit once you realize this game is rushed as fuck and 90% of buildings are either completely empty or unaccessible.
>>332127738
>and 90% of buildings are either completely empty or unaccessible.
Unless by inaccessible you mean just textured buildings you can't enter, pretty much every area that has a activatable door has something in it if you have a quest that involves going there.
>>332127738
>90% of buildings are either completely empty or unaccessible
wow it's almost like it was made in 2004 or something
>>332112937
it hurts anon
>>332127172
Away from here.
I literally just started my first ever playthrough about an hour ago.
I just marathoned the tutorial, does it get any better?
But seriously, I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm a sucker for personality quizzes in vidya though so I ended up being a Nosferatu. I know it's going to be very difficult for a first time playthrough but I don't mind.
How much replay value in terms of alternate story routes/endings is there?
>>332127172
Alas, I am an ass, and cannot hop!
>>332129986
>marathoned the tutorial
The fuck?
>>332130134
He's from /tv/. It's a meme there
Everything except Malkavian (mad niggas know whats up) Ventrue (dominating dudes with your swag) and Tremere (yer whizzard anon) and obviously Nosferatu is just how easy it is to punch things and talk your way out.
>>332112393
>MMO
>Unity
>>332115709
That's not an issue as long as they're invested.
>Obisidan working on their own "Tranny" game.
>Obviously not doing Vampire
Who the fuck is going to do Vampire now? Paradox has clearly a team already working on it, of that there is no doubt. However with Obsidian out, who were the number one candidate, who the fuck can do it well without it being indieshit, "online", or mobile?
>>332129986
There's a bit of replayability, since the recommendation is to do a Malkavian, Nosferatu, and any other clan playthroughs since it's almost like three completely different games story wise that way. Most people recommend anything other than Nossy first not because it's hard, but because you have to skip a lot because just being seen by people on the streets causes masquerade violations, and 5 of those is immediate game over. And they recommend Malkavians as a second/third playthrough because all of their dialog would seem like nonsense as a new player, and actually contains quite a few spoilers in the dialog.
>>332129986
>But seriously, I'm really enjoying it so far.
Well, better prepare yourself because it only gets better as it goes on (except for the last part of the game). I played Nosferatu first, it's very fun. You don't even have to use the sewers.
>>332130349
Can you explain what the meme is about? Thanks.
The actual gameplay is shit tho. Not unlike deus ex
>>332110917
Yeah like every game that has ever been developed except for VtMB.
>>332131105
How would it be indie if its not self-published?
>>332128549
Are you implying there weren't games that you could explore every building before 2004?
>>332129986
>I know it's going to be very difficult for a first time playthrough but I don't mind.
It's not hard really, it's just a bit annoying because it goes out of its way to be different for the Nosferatu, but it's not really complete, so a few things feel a bit off.
As someone who suffered the same fate on the quiz on my first playthrough, here are some tips:
The prince's security guard won't let you in, so you have to get in the building through the sewers. I believe there's no indication of this anywhere.
That said you probably won't ever walk through the front door again, but you have to there after the quest on the ship (you'll know which when it comes) to complete a previous quest and get a really cool bonus thing.
Also, you can use the taxi anyway.
You should leave this thread until finishing it.And don't open it.
>>332131321
>Can you explain what the meme is about? Thanks.
Not much to it. It just started with some dude making a thread about a show saying he marathoned one episode of a show and was wondering when it got good. Now there are like 5 of those threads daily
>>332131105
It's been six months, even if they started working on it immediately after getting the license they wouldn't have anything to show. Just chill out and expect an announcement by the end of the year at the earliest.
>>332131904
They have the MMO assets, that should make the whole process a lot faster.
>>332117950
Holy fuck, that looks great
>>332117880
he's right
>>332132147
They still have to plan, write and program a lot of stuff. Even more work considering the game would be an RPG.
>>332127172
Just keep driving, i'll tell you when to stop.
>tfw i'll never be able to do this irl
>>332132147
>Using low-res crappy CCP models made for an MMO when you can make actually good ones for a single player game
No. Whoever makes it should take their time, no need to rush it with bullshit assets optimized for MMO play.
>>332132856
I seem to recall the assets, the ones they showed off anyway, not looking that bad, especially for an MMO.
>>332117880
He's tight
>>332123398
>mostly god tier setting, some really bad shit but really good foundation and background lore
>attracts the most cringeworthy people, hard to run properly
>most of my friends aren't interested in playing tabletop outside ofpathfinder
it hurts
>>332115083
Depends heavily on who you're playing with.
I ran a game. So many arson and vehicular man slaughters.
>>332124795
the unofficial patch allows you to play on much higher resolution if that's what you mean.
Personally I think the graphics aged really well. The game's artstyle has things being semi-realistic looking and focusing on having really good textures as opposed to super high polycount
>>332134997
Please,if for no other reason than to keep the thread bumped, do go into detail here about this campaign. For some reason I love hearing stories about it, since I've never been able to get a group together to play a pnp game myself.
>>332135340You should visit /tg/ more
Not much to tell. Group was all standard human, ghost hunter types.
First thing they encounter is a haunted house ala Ocean House Hotel. They spend an hour trying to figure out how to release the spirits. Find clues and all that. As they leave, one guy points out the person that hired them to investigate was just planning on bulldoze the place. It was just the ghosts chasing away the demo people. So they start an electrical fire.
The car thing was when they were investigating weird goings on at a dock. Two Gangrel came to chase them off. They proceeded to run them over repeatedly.
>tfw no Technocracy game where you fight vampires and werewolves with the power of Science!
Mage game needs to happen
>>332136032
>That Gehenna event where India is getting fucked up
>Technocracy orbital bombards the fucker
>>332135156
>>332135985
>>332134997
>I ran a game. So many arson and vehicular man slaughters.
I don't know why people are so prone to set shit on fire. I once took part in a Dark Ages chronicle that one dude wanted to buy poison from a botanist or whatever, walked in to the store and started haggling. He haggled and haggled, arguing that he paid much less for his dagger he could use many more times than poison or some retarted shit like that, but eventually failed so hard the dude threw acid on his face, disfiguring him. The he got mad and set fire to store, but forgot he was a vampire and went into rotschreck and ran through the city scaring some dudes with his face.
>you will never eat VV's ass
>>332127172
ur bed
>>332114729
>the light of day
>>332110917
Is it a stretch to say that this is probably the most /comfy/ game to have been made?
http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/
why is he so perfect?
>tfw there will never be another Bloodrayne
>tfw there will never be another VTM
My penis is crying.
Do you get to do the horizontal monster mash with the girl in OP's picture, or any other character for that matter? If so I'll play this game.
>>332141926
If it came out today, most likely yes, but since it's an old game - no
>>332138453
>I don't know why people are so prone to set shit on fire
As an old DM that often gets the introducing new players duties at the local club:
a) Whatever the game, very often new players will go for violent solutions. They feel - are - free to do anything, and unless you give them good reasons not to will take the shortest path.
b) Specifically for Vampire, from personal experience, *very* few DMs actually use the rules for Rötschreck, Frenzy and Humanity properly, if at all. Which kinda helps a lot with the spreading of violence and fire.
>>332141926
fade to black implied sex
>>332141046
I'd let Nines wreck my pussy.
>>332142141
bullshit. I'm sure there's mods to fix that
>>332110917
no. do you see the standards for video games these days?
people just don't care about video games anymore. why even try to make a good one? all the hard work going into it will just be overlooked.
>>332141046
I only played bloodlines as a grill and i felt dat sexual tension between us
>>332142260
Mods do many things, but not that.
Wouldn't work out anyway since it uses ancient source branch not maintained by valve
>>332110917
In what way? Gameplay? Just about every other decent action game out there.
Roleplaying? Most cRPGs, VTMB all but funnels you.
Character progression? Both combat and dialogue encounters barely progress at all, dialogue skills just add a contextual "I win this conversation" button and combat skills are worthless passives and underwhelming spells.
Dialogue-driven contemporary-fantasy/gothic aRPG? Nah, VTMB is still the champ.
Now if you excuse me, I've got to reinstall this bitch.
Fuck it gonna post music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imb_HHcp2Tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R_w6Fw8Ysk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBjuAFnBXBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bYmjJK00XA
>>332141926
most vampires don't get aroused by sexiness or sex
only some toreadors because they're gay ass "muh passion" vampires and some malkavians because they're crazy vampires and some of them will have sex related defects
only thing that arouses and feels/tastes good to vampires is blood
all food and drinks tastes like ash to them
>>332115083
If you can find one with STs who want to attract newbies then yeah you'll have fun. That's how I got in with a good group but after a couple of years the STs were voted out by the close friends power gamers and took control of the game, making it just a huge circle jerk for them.
>>332142590
>Most cRPGs, VTMB all but funnels you
You mean like most cRPGs?
What cRPG with a strong focus on the manipulation of narrative elements does not funnel you? Might just be me being tired, but I can't think of many. And those I can think of managed because they were pretty anemic on that front.
Many have. It's not that great. It's a good vampire game but with shit controls / combat / gameplay. It's redeeming factors are the characters and setting. I thought we were over this.
>>332143283
Ignore the c.
The games that come to mind are like Deus Ex and the Elder Scrolls and whatnot. Just been playing a bunch of older RPGs so I added the c out of habit.
>>332143436
>Elder Scrolls
Yeah right.
>>332143386
Thing is, we're probably going to have a hard time agreeing on what isn't a shit control to replace the service-able, if certainly not outstanding, one Bloodlines had.
>>332143487
Elder Scrolls is so lacking in railroading that most people don't even finish the main quest.
Course that brings up the question whether or not being a roleplaying aid makes for a good game, but that's another discussion.
>>332143632
The question I find in those cases is less "is this a good game?" and more"is this a game you want to play?" really...
>>332143436
>Deus Ex and the Elder Scrolls
I don't think DX is any better on that front really - there are things at which it excels and undoubtedly has Bloodlines beaten - emergent systems, level design... but on the narrative manipulation front it's all smokes and mirrors.
And the Elder Scrolls - though not the games I had in mind - would perfectly fit the "anemic narrative manipulation" descriptor as far as I'm concerned. There's a lot of data. There's not much in complex interwoven states and interactions. Which is why you can so easily be free. There's hardly a need to make the different micro-storylines abide by one another's resolutions and schedules.
>>332144438
>it's all smokes and mirrors
Can't ask for much more in a virtual medium.
>>332143632
I agree but what I mean is that they don't give much options roleplaying-wise. Barely any option in conversation that don't matter, no quest branching, etc. While they let you do a lot of stuff in the narrative, in the end you don't get much option inside that stuff, and most of it is terrible, doesn't matter, will go against the foundation of your character, or any combination of those.
Skyrim
Fallout 3
Fallout 4
>>332110917
Is this game fun? I want to buy it
>>332144791
I should point out I mean the recent Elder Scrolls games as I haven't played the entire series.
>>332144984
Pirate it because Activision.
>>332144513
I don't know, I think, say, Fallout 1&2 - or Arcanum - managed something pretty compelling on that front.
You can have games that will track and react to things you did, the order, the state, various qualities and take them into account, and actually surprise by the extent by which they do. Because it *will* actually matter.
But I would say those games are the exception.
To quote >>332112937, I think the biggest disappointment for us is that we were picturing a time when DX and Fallout and Half Life would merge into some complex, complete gaming experience. And what we got instead is a constant devolution of the genre in the name of accessibility while all the technological advancement we made were squandered on putting a new shiny coat of paint on an ever shrinking turd.
I still can't believe this game was made with the source engine
>>332110917
>tfw malk
>tfw everyone goes "oh god dammit" when they find out you're a malk and they have to speak to you
fucking beautiful
>>332144984
Pirate it. The developer's are dead and the publisher is activision, who played a major part in the dev's going under.
>>332145348
what is unbelievable about that? doesn't do anything demanding really.
