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Have you pre-ordered Dark Souls 3,for the PC /v/? Don't
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Have you pre-ordered Dark Souls 3,for the PC /v/? Don't you want to pre-load the game and play the definitive 60FPS version on day one?

I know I have. :3
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>>332110701
Already playing on the Xbone.
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>>332110701
>he actually thinks it won't be another awful port
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copy paste thread with even the same image
go away nigger
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I don't preorder games.

I also don't have any money.
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I have it already preordered but I wonder if my Phenom 965 and GTX 760 can run it at least 1080/30 thats my only concern.
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Can't wait to see what breaks this time at 60 fps. If the game is even optimized enough to allow people to play at 60 fps that is. Considering how shitty most current gen ports are and this is From we're talking about I predict it'll be a catastrophe.
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>>332110701
Yes I have.

I just wish someone could leak the fucking game files so I could play now and not have to wait 2 fucking weeks.

IT'S NOT FAIR!
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>mfw got 25% off for preordering on Gamesplanet
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>>332110701
I wish I could but I'm a NEET and I'm too lazy to get a job.(I guess) thats what people tell me but I legitimately cant work because I have crippling social anxiety. I get panic attacks around people. But I cant get treatment for it because no money, no insurance. Dont qualify for medicaid either. I'm in a catch-22 situation.

Living with my parents and all of that. I could probably ask my Mom for 60 to get it but I'd feel really guilty since she doesnt make much money as it is.

So I'm just waiting for a torrent unfortunately. I'll be missing out on PvP and Co-op which sucks a lot but at least I still get to play it.

Thanks for attending my shitty pitty party.
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Waiting for GOTY edition/version with DLC included. Keeping my expectations low, don't want to succumb to hype.
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>>332110701
really wish there was cross platform play, all my buddies are getting it on ps4
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>>332111854
Game is apparently using Denuvo so you can't pirate it.
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>>332110701
What is that shit smear at the bottom-right corner of your screen?
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>>332110851
How do you cope? I was considering it to play with a friend before the PC release, but I was at his and it runs like shit. Looks like it's running at 20fps.
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>>332111981
neat.

oh well.
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I have, but i am afraid it's going to be a shit port.
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>>332111854
>I legitimately cant work because I have crippling social anxiety
You can't work because you're a man child, not because you actually can't.
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>>332111981
It isn't using Denuvo. Stop spreading this misinformation.
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>>332111338
Prob just the standard equipment breaking twice as fast feature
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>>332111965
I have a richfag who owns a 3k gaming PC, but prefers to play on the PS4 because "better community." Whatever the case is, I would love crossplay enabled and play with him.
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>>332112092
Seems pretty smooth. Just got to Undead Settlement and I haven't had many issues. There probably has been drops but I haven't noticed many.
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no thanks, keep your dork souls to yourself
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>>332110701
Differences between pre-ordering or buying the game on release day:
1 -
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>>332112175
source? lying faggot
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>>332111981
Still believing in that crap?
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>>332112164
Yeah, whatever you say. I don't expect anyone to believe me because there's so many people out there who just use mental problems as an excuse. Its true though, I cant function in social situations.
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I haven't finished building my pc.
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>>332112368
Source that says it's using denuvo?
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>>332110701
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>>332112365
1 - less hypocrisy when shilling
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>>332112418
They made medicine for people like you. You just won't face reality. You don't want to grow up so you don't. Then you amplify any sort of reason why you don't want to grow up and blame it.
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>>332112662
Whatever you say Doctor. You clearly know enough about me to come to such a conclusion.
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Never really got into Souls games. Guess I might try pirating DaS again.
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>>332110701
I bought the first two games back in december and still haven't finished them so no.

I'll buy it later this year if I find DS2 any good.
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>>332112813
I've had my fair share of experiences with people who refuse to grow up, yes.
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You should see the file size of a game .exe that has denuvo and one that doesn't. Its a difference of almost 150MB. All the obfuscated code takes extra CPU cycles to process (on a legal version) and slows down code execution significantly. Denuvo, in order to hide the fact that it slows performance, it calls game functions to make it seem like those calls are actually coming from the game itself rather than denuvo.
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>PC version is 2 weeks away
>not playing DaS1 and DaS2 to burn the time away
Also rate my waifu, /v/.
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>>332113123
they are reverse engineering denuvo so that they can attack the VM (Virtual Machine) that denuvo is built upon directly instead of making roundabout solutions that circumvent denuvo. A crack like this, if released, would mean a true end to denuvo (until it gets patched, but this sort of crack is hard to patch)
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>>332113194
fat.

also, fuck the minimum requirements of DSIII, I'm getting a PS4
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SHiLL thread
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>>332113346
>not using the money to buy a new GPU instead
Literally why
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KAT gave me a life time premium subscription that lets me download any game for free. Now I'm just waiting for the release.
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>>332111338
dont worry whatever game breaking 60fps bugs it has. Scamco will get around to fixing it once the GOTY edition gets released on PS4K and Xbox Two a year from now.
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>>332113459
cause' I need to invest in both CPU and GPU to play DSIII, i3 and GTX650ti, and living in a fucking third world country means it's equally expensive to get a PS4.

ironicly enough DSII ran flawlessly on my setup.
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>>332113506
>Public trackers
Scrub.
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I'll just wait for the completed DLC bundle version for 1/3 of the price a year later, who even cares about playing games right on release when it comes to primarily single player games?
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>>332113583
And so will DS3 on lower graphics. The recommended specs are bullshit.
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>>332113720
> seeding
> needing to maintain a ratio because of fuckers that I don't care about
> not being able to delete old files because I need to seed
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>>332112331
I checked to see if Digital Foundry had anything on it. The frame pacing is probably why it looked like it was 20fps, instead of what appears to be an average of 25fps. That's a real bad port, don't wanna play it in moonrunes on the PisS4 either. Think I'll hold out for the PC release.
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>>332112365
Pre-load, I suppose.
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This is going to be the longest two weeks ever I'd import it but I don't want to deal with the shipping costs.
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>>332113827
>> seeding
Actually some of the private trackers that I use don't require seeding and don't have ratio's.
>> needing to maintain a ratio because of fuckers that I don't care about
Pretty fucking easy, considerin that on the trackers where there's a ratio I constantly either get bonuses for seeding the torrent alone or I download free leech torrents.
>> not being able to delete old files because I need to seed
I delete them whenever I want.
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>>332113738
even by lowering the specs the min requirements are quite overblown.

still, from i3 to i5, and from GTX650 Ti to GTX750 Ti...
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Waiting to see if anything else of mine sells on the steam marketplace.

I've already sold $7 dollars worth of cards, and have the 8% discount from owning a Souls game already, so.

>>332113827
Plus, seeding is how you get caught.
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>>332113827
>download everything twice as fast and don't have to worry about fake uploads
ipt is great
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>>332114078
>seeding is how you get caught
Not necessarily. If you're seeding you can see who is downloading from you.
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>>332114115
> worrying about fake uploads
> being so dumb that you get tricked with fake uploads
> having so little to do with life that you can't wait for a download to finish while doing something else
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>>332113456
Right in the kokoro, senpai...
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>>332110701
I hope its a terrible port.
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>>332110701
meeeeeee

Do you need a controller to enjoy this game?

I'll have to dig up my old 360 controller
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Nah, senpai. My computer is weak so I'll grab it for PS4. I already played the beta so I know 30 FPS isn't going to kill the game by any means for me.

I actually have access to an Xbone, but I kind of hate the console too much to commit to playing it on that platform exclusively. Relatives use it more than me so I let them keep it on loan most of the time.

I'll probably pick up the steam version later down the line when it's cheap during a sale or somesuch and my shit is up to date, as I plan to upgrade later this year.
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>>332114193
>being so dumb that you get tricked with fake uploads
Nice strawman

It's pretty great not having to do something else since the download finishes so fast.
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>>332114669
You seriously have to be too dumb or suffer brain damage to be tricked by fake uploads
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>>332114078
>Plus, seeding is how you get caught.
>Land of the free
LOL
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>>332110701

Keep hoping for a deal on GoG but it doesn't look like its going to happen. Its especially bad because I'm Canadian, so it has to be a pretty damn good deal for it to actually drop below the Canadian conversion.
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>>332114247
but its 60 fps senpai
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>>332114749
And where did I say I've gotten tricked? I just said you don't have to worry about one.
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>>332114898
Why would I even worry about something like that?
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>>332114247
already confirmed that it's not
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I'll wait and see if it's a good port or not.
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I'll be waiting for the goty edition before I buy.
I'm almost done with my current DaS run so I was considering playing DaS2 again to fill the void.
I made this new character to embody my sadness.
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>>332115103
I just listed a benefit. Quit being autistic.
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>>332110701
Why do you keep posting this?

Yes, but I really hope they fix the 60fps issues. I know they won't
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>>332115481
>Why do you keep posting this?

$$$
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>>332113194
Is Sotfs worth it? I heard it fixed some of 2's problems.
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>>332110701

>definitive

This meme needs to stop. A higher frame rate might be definitive for you, but a cheaper console, larger playerbase, not having to build a pc, playing with friends, etc. are definitive to others. Mustards and shitposters alike use the definitive meme to destroy any discussion about a non pc game by suggesting that everyone should avoid games until ported to pc because it's not just a subjective preference, but an objective fact, that pc is better.

Fuck off. If you want to discuss video games, keep your platform shit out of it.
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i cant help but be worried the key won't arrive before release date
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>>332115625
>me
>earning money
I wish. If I was earning dosh, I could have used the money to buy a better scanner for my scanlation projects. And I really need one.
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>>332114247
Haven't some streamers played it on PC already? I know some of them have great rigs but from what we've seen it looks pretty good. For now of course.
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>>332115797
No.

It didn't.
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>>332115831
I thought you worked in an office.
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>>332115797
Problems like what? They fixed the durability bug, more players can be summoned/more invaders per host, and a few graphical tweaks.
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>>332115840
Day9 played it but I don't recommend anyone watch it since he's garbage. Though that applies to every game that isn't SC1
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>>332115817
Well on a technical level it is a better version, depending on your hardware. Though there are a few game-breaking 60fps bugs that still exist in the day 1 patch

Personally I shall be buying it on PC + console
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>>332115797
No you'd be wasting money just wait for DS3.
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>>332115817
Cheaper console and not having to build a PC aren't reasons for it not being definitive. Yes, you have to spend more to get the definitive experience in most hobbies.

>larger playerbase
Considering this isn't a team game and I'm pretty sure you can only have maybe 2 people summoned at a time you don't need a ton of people playing anyway.

>playing with friends
Get better friends.

Although you're fucked either way since you like Souls games at all.
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>>332115969
I am, but I'm not really a richfag. I'm also a third-worlder. I've been funding 90% of my projects and sometimes I wish people who love our translations help out a bit. I can't afford everything.
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>>332116015

Everyone knows that pc has more capabilities on a technical level. The problem is that nobody on /v/ can tolerate people who don't find technical differences to be a life or death matter. If it's not framerate, it's resolution. If it's not resolution, it's graphics settings like lighting and shadows. For some reason, people who spend a little more by building a pc just cannot allow console players to avoid hearing their nonsense about how great their purchase was. I think a lot of people feel buyers remorse for spending $400 on a new gpu every 5 years, especially since pc doesn't have identical game libraries, so consoles and handhelds still end up being necessary for a lot of people.
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>>332115817
The PC version will objectively have the larger playerbase. Just like Dark Souls 1 and 2.

Better graphics

Cheaper price

More players playing

Better frame rate

Mods

Free online

Easiest way to share screenshots/videos


PC is by far the best way to play this game, you're an idiot to think otherwise.
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>>332116286
I think you don't seem to understand that the definitive version of a game would be the one that's best on a technical level.
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>>332115817
Ok let's skip the framerate argument then.

Building a PC is literally LEGO.
PC does more than just game, you're paying for more than one function. Each setup also stays relevant for longer than a gen of console will.
PC games are cheaper, and go on sale often.
Mods.
Your friends need more IQ points if they don't see this.
So do you.
Console is a ripoff and by not boycotting that shit you are helping the cancer stay alive.
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>>332116361

>lie
>nobody cares
>lie unless you already built a $300 pc and don't have a ps4
>lie
>nobody cares, the game is designed for 30
>nobody cares
>everyone hates paid online, but it's still cheaper
>nobody cares unless you're a cancerous lper and they still play on both consoles and pc anyways

You tried.
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>>332116361
>800 proxy votes
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>>332116674
yfw
stay mad consoleplebe
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>>332116420
>>332116603

Thanks for proving my point. Did you even read my post? I'm criticizing people like you who cannot think of objective quality from any perspective other than performance and hardware. Fuck off from souls threads, we don't need your bait.
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>>332110919
When people call PC games bad ports they mean they are absolute 1:1 copies of the console version. Even bad PC ports are objectively superior to console versions. Our standards are just so much higher. What we call a bad port, you call your GOTY.
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>>332116674
>>332116715
>>332116829
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>>332116420
Well for me, currently the PC version cannot homeward bone back without spamming it, frequently crashes at bonfires, runs at 2fps in menu's, takes extra fall damage (like DaS1) and who knows what else

PC also has the day 1 patch, so these issues are not going to be fixed when it releases. If that truly is the case then I will be buying it on console first. From needs to fucking pay attention
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>>332113025
Good thing you're the primary case study in your own field kek.
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>>332116829
>bait
I think the bait is more someone trying to excuse his inferiority by citing the "muh friends" argument.
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>>332112368
Where's yours, you mongoloid? Why the fuck is your word any more citable than his?
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>>332116829
>people like you who cannot think of objective quality from any perspective other than performance and hardware
Gaming platforms ARE hardware.
Of course it's about performance.

What other aspect is there to consider?
Enlighten me, consolecuck.
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>tfw you've already been spoiled a bunch of shit

thanks japan / streamers ;_;

this is going to be a long 2 weeks
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>>332116869
*tips fedora in your direction*
Amen, fellow master race brother.
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>>332116174
stop samefagging your stupid problems in every thread

nobody fucking cares
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>>332117358
You asked, so...
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>>33211071
No, I haven't, because I already downloaded it from the Japanese PSN and beat it.
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happy easter SHiN
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>>332115817
Definitive is more about the best possible version, if people would stop buying these expensive consoles that imprison gaming and ensure that the best outcome, a one system market, will never exist. Consoles need to move on to becoming gaming optimized operating systems for PC hardware. That is what would be best for everyone. Games made for those operating systems can be optimized towards the current cheap prebuilt sold by the OS creator but allows for higher settings. The fact that people are happy about a 4.5 is absolute proof that these console faggots want more power, even if in the span of a few years they've purchased 2 consoles and paid monthly. Definitive is the best game possible. It is literally the Definitive Edition, the other factors are 3rd party problems, the game itself is the Definitive Edition.

consoles being cheap is a meme as well. If you want full functionality and features you're going to be paying monthly/yearly. That adds up, not to mention the upgrade to PS4.5. You're going to have to pay for another console, making your console costs go through the roof. Think of it as a total. Add all that up and its awful for what you're getting. So go, buy a 4.5, increase the total amount spent on your consoles. I be tits going to cost a whole fucking lot more than the ps4 as well. Gonna be great having console fags justify their purchases and continuation of cancerous industry trends. Consoles need to die, they are no longer a good buy. They're expensive, PCs aren't foreign to people anymore and its very clear everyone would prefer an upgradable system. Console operating systems is the best outcome for EVERYONE. We should stop fighting eachother and start pushing for a change everyone would prefer. Hell, console fags wouldn't even know they were playing on a PC, like that E3 where the games were being ran on PC while thinking they were on an xbox.
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>>332117434
no i didn't, i just came in to this thread to call you a fucking faggot
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>>332111854
Dude, if I can work with social anxiety, then you can. I'm just the weird guy who doesn't talk to anyone and just does his job and goes home. Bosses love me because of this, other employees just think of me as a weird fuck. I'm OK with that because once I'm out I don't think twice about the place, but I make good money and can afford all the vidya I want
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>>332115481
What 60 fps issues, you falseflagging shit?
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>>332110701
Aren't you that autistic weeb who has that blue anime on every single thing he owns?
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Bamco is a shitty company and should kill itself.
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>>332117660
You mean Aoi?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/not_odayaka/
http://lazylily.moe/
https://twitter.com/Lazy_Lily_SHiN

I'd say, yes.
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>>332117318
hes right though, Dark souls is probably the shining example of this.
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>>332117660
Yes, he is. And in putting that shit on all of his posts his avatarfagging, which you can in fact get someone banned for.
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>>332116361
>Mods as a selling point
Dark souls has fuck all going for it in the mods department
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>>332117485
I'm tipping pretty hard rn.
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>>332116715
>this denial

The results of these polls are literally always the same, moeshitter. Lurk some more.
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>>332118401
85% of those fucks probably own a 2002 Thinkpad running on Windows 98, and will be playing the game at 5 FPS on lowest settings.
Majority of /v/ are poorfags, so of course they'd pick PC.
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>>332118627
I'm wealthy. I pick PC because it's still objectively better.
Try harder.
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>>332118627
Why are you consolefags so fucking delusional, are you just all too young to afford a PC?
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If ive never played a souls game is it dumb to start with 3?

can i just pirate it without missing much? or is the online stuff worth.
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>>332118775
>>332118882
>all this assmad
It's so easy to get you fucks butthurt over a child's hobby.
Grow the fuck up kids.
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I hate you, SHiN.
I hate you.
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>>332119276
You've already made your asshurt evident enough by resorting to denial, trying to project it onto others won't work here, friend.
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>>332119029

advice plz
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>>332119029
online stuff is a mixed bag. It can be a lot of fun but most of the time you will be ganked by twinks, often even cheaters. This one has up to 6 people fighting each other at the same time. My advice is pirate first if you are knew to it, you might hate the whole concept. Game itself is good, all of them are good. Story is almost non existant, you can jump into them wherever you want. You still have a few weeks so you can finish the others in the meantime if you want to play some good vidya. Or if you have xbone you can play das3 right now in English.
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>>332119029
I see no reason not to start with 3. These games have never been about story.
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Hell no, why would I buy the PC version when I got a PS4?
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>>332119029
It's a double edged sword. You could start with three and go back to the other games and then see what stuff was like before. Or you could start with one and see what stuff has become.
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>>332119934
Shhh, shhh... It's okay, it's just a joke, no need to throw a tantrum over it, child.
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>>332110701

>Pre order game like a good goy
>Everyone else including pirates get to play it almost a month before I do

Epic simply epic Bamco.
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>>332115817

first step

denial
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>>332117507

wow rude
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>>332110701

>pre-ordering anything
>not being a noodle gargling idiot

Pick one.
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>>332115817
phew someone got asshurt
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Why do people pre order? Stop being the cancer killing the game industry
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>Preorder bonus
>Music and cheaper old Souls games
No thanks, I'll wait
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>>332120239
>Shhh
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>>332110701
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>>332110919
I hold out hope because 2, while an overall shit game, was trying its best to be a pc port. they clearly want to make the pc ports good.
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>>332111981

Yeah your mother said so while i was fucking her.
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>>332110701
>8% discount on steam of you own all previous games
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deadfish has my leak. he's been idle for a while not sure if hes working on it or not.

Soon I guess.
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>>332116924
pc has not the day1 patch...
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>>332118162
ENB, textures, gameplay tweaks(first person mod).

Still a selling point, cuck.
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>8% off if you own a previous Souls game

What a steal!
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I don't really get the souls series.
I played DaS on PC and it got boring really fast. What's the appeal?
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>>332122017
It's soooooo hard dude hardcore to the max \m/
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WHY IS THERE NO FUCKING LEAK

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>332110701
YEP!
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>>332122092
It really isn't that hard. Most standard enemies, you can just lock on, go around them and backstab
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>Pre-ordering a game
>Pre-ordering a game which has been in development for 1 year
>Pre-ordering a game which recommends a 970
>Giving money to Newell

There is a special place in Hell for you.
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>already has a season pass
Is this how it's going to be from now on? Most triple A games are going to have day-1 DLC?
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>>332122146
because streamers are pussies and japanese are good guys against piracy
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>>332120239
>he posts on /v/ and calls people children while calling games a child's hobby
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>preordered DaS3 with season pass on CDKeys for $50
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>>332122308
It's been in development since Bloodborne was in development
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>>332110701
I'll wait a year so I don't get burned like the last 2 times.
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What should I play in the meantime?
I have DaS1 but I've already played it to death, and DaS2 original version with no DLC.
I'm not about to pay $40 for a game I already bought with slightly more content.

Seriously, who the fuck though that making a game less than a year old obsolete was a good idea? I would have rather waited the year for them to properly release it on next-gen if it meant I was getting a full game, but that wouldn't make Namco enough money, would it?
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>>332122308
>in development for 1 year
I hope to god this post is bait.
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>>332122656
I'm talking about SotFS by the way.
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>>332114309
Almost any character action game is better with a controller
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>>332121787
Until you get banned for those. Only casuals hack like you. Play legit.
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>>332122975
>character action game

Elaborate on this meme buzzterm.
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Does this count as shilling?
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>not waiting until the complete edition with all DLC included before buying it
After SotFS, I'm skeptical as fuck
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>>332110701
Preordered, b-but i don't think i'll be able to run it
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>>332113194
1 runs like shit on pc and I can't be fucked to fuck around with DSfix
I don't like 2 so I'm kinda in the dry
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>tfw bought my first $60 game in like 8 years

I dunno.
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>>332123561
It runs even worse on consoles and DSfix takes no effort to set up at all, nigger.
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>>332123126
>swindler acting as an enthusiastic customer to coax others into buying a product

No not at all
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>>332123834

>N word

Really mature.
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>>332123340
Me too

I doubt the same thing is going to happen though, the consoles are out and the game is there from the get go
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>>332113194
Played through ng+ in sotfs. Finished Anor Londo and remembered how much I hate the rest of the game so I'm on BB now
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>>332110701
Probably can run this game maxed already but I promised to upgrade my pc once its released.

4k monitor and 2 r9 390 here we go.
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that feel when you should buy the game on pc or ps4
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>>332123561
Dsfix is really easy to set up lad, you literally download a thing, drag all the files into Steam's Dark Souls folder and if you want to you can fuck around with the ini file to make AA higher or whatever
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>>332113194

I am playing Salt Souls instead.
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>>332124262
Getting it on ps4 first since my friends have toasters. I'll get it on PC eventually.
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>>332124479
>friends

wew
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>same thread
>every fucking day
and they say shills don't exist on /v/
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>>332124665
>and they say shills don't exist on /v/

Literally no one says that.
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Get stucked on DS2 SOTFS because my toaster can't run the minimal requeriment
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tfw PCcuck without a gaming controller

should I buy a steam controller or something cheaper?
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>>332126286
>steam controller

Anything but that.
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>>332126286

360 controller, or xbone controller.
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>>332126286
Just get a controller with xinput so you don't have to worry about binding shit.
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>>332126286
xbone controller is pretty nice out-of-box play on winblows
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>>332126286
if you have a pro controller you can easily emulate it as a 360 controller per blutooth dongle and wiinupro
otherwise just get a 360/one controller
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>>332110701
Don't think my computer can run it so I'll be getting it on PS4.
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>>332127304
The PS4 version runs it at below 30fps.
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>>332126286
you seem pretty retarded so go grab an xbox controller
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>>332127673
Alright?
That doesn't make my PC magically able to run it.
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>>332127969
You don't think it can run it better than that? It must be very old.
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>>332110701
Nope. I don't trust From enough to buy at release anymore.
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>>332128063
It's like 5 years old now with 6gigs of ram, a shitty AMD APU, and a half decent budget GPU.
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Give me two good reasons why I should buy this game anytime soon if they're just going to SoTFS my shit up again with this version?
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>>332128336
Might still run better than the PS4 version frame rate wise especially if you lower the resolution. Maybe not though.

Enjoy your sub 20 fps anon.
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So all i care about this shitfest of a game is the pvp, so post pvp matches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxtvshUyqDM
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>>332128660
Why does the PVP look so shitty? It looks like the latency is insane with your weapons reach being much longer than it should be physically.

And your feet seem to just slide forward when you use an attack.
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>>332128660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCoXoMsPcZc

5 vs 1
>5 vs 1
5 vs 1
>5 vs 1
5 vs 1
>5 vs 1
5 vs 1
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9aO0BuZAk
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