Why isn't Sonic and the Secret Rings on Steam?
Is it a good game?
>>332096630
> is it a good game
No. Even the music is shit.
>>332097223
Why isn't a good game?
With the motion controls taken away most of the difficulty would be gone
The game is designed around motion controls. Removing that would make the game piss easy.
>>332098112
So, are they bad implemented?
So what sonic games are worth playing? I want to try a 3d one.
>>332097223
>Even the music is shit
Triggered/10
Levitated ruins was pretty good.
>>332096630
There has never been a good sonic game. The genesis games only sold because of marketing and gimmicks and they're only remembered fondly by nostalgiafags and buttblasted SEGA fans who were pissed that they had the losing console.
>>332098215
The game's levels are very, very linear and are designed around the fact that Sonic is controlled by tilting the Wii remote.
>>332098215
Sonic automatically runs forward and you make him straife left and right down a set path by tilting the wii remote left or right.
It's very imprecise and there's an RPG leveling up system where you can unlock better controls for him.
>>332097223
Fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXYaecOvQ18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4NhfXwMeUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9W8nrAuWlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAf6ljJmhQ
>>332098484
>There has never been a good sonic game.
>>332098694
>He thinks there was a good sonic game
Ñet me guess, your nostalgia says games for the genesis were good, correct?
>>332098484
Really, I never played good on Sonic games.
Objective 3D Sonic Games Ranking
SA2>Colors>Unleashed>SA1>06>Heros>Shadow>Boom>Black Knight>Secret rings.
Think I'm wrong? Play them again.
>>332096630
I completely wrapped it because it was all I had when I got my Wii. Its not a bad game but some parts range from really simple to unnecessarily difficult because of the controls. Music is really good though. Also the final upgrade makes you go so fast you pretty much break the game but it consumes rings every second.
Also played the shit out of the Mario Party rip off mode with my siblings. Carpet pulling game was our jam.
>>332098879
It's been years since I last touched the game. I remember the controls feeling weird at first but like the other guy said there's an exp. system where you can buy upgrades for Sonic.
>>332098861
No, I just don't ride the Sonic hate train cause it's popular.
Why the fuck does the same annoying song start after every single menu you go through? Also controls are horrible plot is laughably stupid in all the wrong ways and cheaply made, gameplay is boring, level design is boring, this game is less Sonic than Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>332098979
>SA2 at the top
Strong nostalgia goggles here. Treasure hunt levels are trash and the mechs are worse versions of E102
>>332098503
>>332098596
So, there's only this control shit and it's not funny?
>>332098694
Debate me flimflam.
Genesis games were marketed on two gimmicks:
1. GOTTA GO FAST, and all that did was make the level design basic and pointless because you had to go quick enough to keep a decent flow going while sacrificing any decent gameplay. Every level amounted to go fast, stop, go fast, get hit, go fast, end. With the occasional boring and uninspired boss battle thrown in.
2. HE'S COOLER THAN MARIO:
Which only mattered to edgy tweens whose moms wouldn't buy them violent games. It's the kind of "cool" that wouldn't offend white suburban housewife sensibilities. The kind of cool that was clearly designed by a team of middle aged Japanese businessmen.
None of this actually mattered because Super Mario Bros 3 was deeper, better designed, and far more innovative than anything Sonic has ever done and it was released a generation prior to Sonic's debut.
>>332098979
Generations > Colors > Unleashed (ignoring werehog segments) > Heroes = Black Knight > SA2 > SA > 06 > Shadow >Boom > Secret Rings
Haven't played Lost World
Shahra was a pretty underrated girl.
>>332098979
MAKE
>>332099808
I don't count Generations, but seriously Black Knight that high?!?
>>332098861
>Ñet
You are latin!
>>332099808
Eh Lost World is probably so where in. The middle, not terrible, but not really original or memorable in any ways.
>>332099041
>wrapped it
???
>>332099350
>plot is laughably stupid in all the wrong ways and cheaply made
It's a game for children...
>>332100141
>heroes is better than black knight
>>332099462
I won't deny how it was marketed but you basically just spouted opinion.
Mario and Sonic may both be platformers but they are designed around 2 different things. Sonic can't have levels designed like Mario because all Mario has to do is make a new power up. Sonic levels are great for the gameplay that is centers around.
Sorry if Sonic wan't your cup of tea but your opinion isn't fact.
>>332099808
Lost World isn't fun.
>>332100107
>pretty underrated girl
???
Let me guess, she is the stupid princess that is kidnaped, right? And does not in the game?
>>332100141
Pretty good.
>>332100141
>Enjoyed Heroes more than SA2
What
>>332101403
Maybe he likes playing Sonic games instead of bland mecha shooting and collecting shit.
>>332100953
So?
You gonna wall meme all over me or what?
>>332101248
You're thinking of Elise, from 06.
>>332101593
He also likes tedious level design and repetition apparently.
>>332101138
Okay well kids like cartoons not fuckin power point slides
>>332099808
>SA2 > SA
I thought it wasokay
>>332099462
>level design basic
But Sonic has more complex level design then Mario and going fast is just speed running just practice
>>332100141
>he kept on playing a shit serie
>>332100107
Merlina was better.
Merlina cutestvillain.
>>332101639
>wall meme
???
Amy in her Lady of the Lake getup was cute
>>332100141
> S3&K is God-Tier
This is correct.
>>332099462
>all that did was make the level design basic and pointless because you had to go quick enough to keep a decent flow going while sacrificing any decent gameplay. Every level amounted to go fast, stop, go fast, get hit, go fast, end
The levels had multiple routes, each of them have a different pace. Like the water stages are usually faster if you keep yourself on the top route and avoid fall down onto the water, where the slowest path is.
Unless you're talking about Sonic 1, which is considerably slower than the two sequels and has you stopping a handful of times with platforming sections instead of blending speed with platforming. But in any of the other two, if you're having trouble going fast, you probably ended up on the slower route, which means you just have togit gud.
>>332100141
What about the Advance and Rush games?
>>332096630
Its awful. Shit controls and they make you replay levels with fucking dumb objectives
(eg play a level once, goto next level, then the third level is some dumb shit like "play this segment of level 1 without breaking pots!")
>>332099462
You make the same mistake everyone who doesn't understand what Sonic gameplay is actually about makes.
The game is about going fast to a certain extent, but speed isn't the central mechanic of the game. The central mechanic of the game is momentum-based platforming. It isn't so much about going fast all the time as it is the better you are with the platforming, the faster you'll go.
In other words, skilled platforming is the means with speed as a reward for good gameplay, speed isn't the means to some other end.
>>332100854
I liked it a lot, I don’t know why. Gameplay wasn’t perfect, but it was fun, boss fights were nice, and Sonic’s personality was gotten across well.
Also excalibur Sonic was cool
>>332102781
Ugh, this replay feature seems terrible!
>>332100141
I'd say that's fair enough. I wouldn't rank all the Genesis games as OMG SO AWESOME like the pic even if I do have nostalgia for them, but the rest is pretty spot on.
>>332100854
I'd rate it that high just for the GOAT soundtrack. It stands out in a series filled with good music.
>>332103018
This guy gets it. Knight of the Wind was some sick-ass shit. The medieval thing mixes surprisingly well with Sonic's usual hard rock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfpUBfF8C3I
>>332098670
High and Broken is boring.
>>332100141
>even suggesting heroes was good
>no rush adventure
>no sonic chaos
They're all pretty bad.
>>332103505
Thats because crush40 are as old and outdated as a medieval ruin.
>no Sonic Colors HD
>>332096630
Secret Rings is fucking garbage
You start it thinking its an adventure/platformer game but it's a shitty on-rails game with awful controls