![ulduar_70[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DtwVknd.jpg "ulduar_70[1].jpg")
>the "new old god" people thought we'd never seen before was actually in the game since WotLK
bravo metzen
>>332068240
Im prerty sure thats a representation of Y'shaarj
>>332068240
That's Y'shajaja
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tQVwP6v.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>332069991
>>332069937
nah senpaitachi
>>332070192
That looks more like mantid shit tho
>>332070192
Thats still not the same guy as in the picture.
Yrshaarjarejasifhuaolrfhoil is a sha edgelord kind of thing.
That guy here is a tentacool squid.
>>332070263
At the time everyone thought it was a Sha.
There's only but so many lovecraftian horrors you can doodle up before they start to run together.
>>332070192
anon, that's y'shabala. a quick google search would tell you that.
>>332070192
Something like this fampai
![635942598403209689[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/yFP0v5G.png "635942598403209689[1].png")
are you all retarded?
this >>332070192 is a depiction of y'shaarj by the mantid
this >>332068240 appears to be a depiction of n'zoth in ulduar
pic related, it's n'zoth
I remember they said that it's not Y'shaaj or any other old god. It's just a random window.
N'zoth
>>332068240
If you're not stupid and noticed anything in WoW lore at all you'd know N'zoth has been behind a lot of the catastrophes in the game, he's almost as big of a villain as the burning legion.
>>332070192
>>332070361
I just base my sayings in the looks. That seems to have tentacles, if it was supposed to create the mantids he aint no squid he'd look more like a sha with scales or be more like C'thun
>>332070591
DAZED
REELING
ABOUT TO BREAK
>>332068240
Seeing stained glass like this literally triggers my autism.
This is not how stained glass works, fuck whatever texture artist created this.
>Tentacles + many mouths = big bad evil
Is variety too much to ask? I always thought N'Zoth to be a decrepit almost-formless figure, though I guess that'd be hard to translate to in-game models impressively
>>332070848
Do you really think they give a shit? Everything is a reskin and/or has the same set of animations. They are too lazy to get shit done
>>332070848
It's blizzard man, everything is a chunky cartoon, just go with it.
>>332070651
>Burning Legion
>Villain
>>332068240
i'm so fucking tired of blizzard raping lovecraftian lore without even dropping the vaguest credit to him
>no niggerman cat in hearthstone
>C'thun is a giant eye with a bunch of smaller eyes
>Yogg-saron is a bunch of mouths
>the other Old Gods weren't just a bunch of noses/hands/ears
>>332070752
What's wrong with it?
>>332070651
N'Zoth is "the corruptor", meaning he's basically the embodiment of Chris Metzen.
>>332071458
everyone copy lovecraft, his shit is that good, seriously, even the stories without elder gods or horror, like that one about getting high and visiting other realms.
>Old Gods are meant to be lovecraftian inspired
>They're all just giant squids with tentacles
Lovecraft would slap Metzen in the face for such slander of his work.
>>332071789
Thats Filthy Franku
>big ugly octopus
Worst old god design. What a disappointment after having to wait so many years.
>>332071883
Cthun is great. Guys got perfect radial symmetry going on
>>332071582
Well N'Zoth kinda looks like a bunch of tentacles. Kinda counts as hands.
And lets not kid ourselves, how the hell can you make a bunch of noses menacing ? He'll smell you to death ?
>>332071616
Especially showing their lack of good titles to give to villains anymore.
Corruptor is Archimonde's moniker.
>>332071598
Almost every single piece is laughably horrible.
You see all those points? Points can't be cut INTO glass by hand, and cutting them with a saw results in massive areas of stress. The more acute the angle, the more stress.
Now keep in mind, you can make a point with glass, that's obvious. But I challenge you to try to cut almost ANY piece in that panel, especially that large piece above the crystals.
Whoever made that particular panel didn't give a single shit about how stained glass is made, it's so rife with mistakes it's embarrassing.
The ONLY explanation is that some fucking Gnome or whatever decided that, while cut, leaded windows are incredibly strong, withstanding bombings and 100s of years of abuse, it would be a conducive use of time to create some kind of magic glass that you could cut like paper, just so you could make an ugly panel like the above.
Can we all agree that C'Thun and Yogg'Saron both have 10/10 designs ?
>inb4 the plot of legion is that we fight the burning legion BUT THEN, it's revealed that the legion din do nuffin they good boys and that it was really the old gods all along who corrupted the burning legion.
>>332072505
the part about the legion being good boys has already happened as I understand it
>>332072505
No, the Burning Legion is a creation of Sargeras, who was corrupted by fear of the Void Lords. The Old Gods are just an accidental creation by them, they are not stronger than Sargeras.
>>332072317
Just asking cause I was interested, i'm not defending it. Thanks for the info.
>>332072581
So Void Lords final boss of WoW?
>>332072257
It smells your fear.
>>332072361
I'd drop yogg a bit lower. So far none of them have been really as weird as C'thun. Even if he is just a fancier forgotten one from the campaign.
>>332072675
Maybe. They're definitely the most evil thing in WoW and the source of everything bad. But they're also kind of unestablished and cosmic, if I had to guess the final boss would be Sargeras and they'd leave the Void Lords so that they can always make a new villain for WoW2/WC4 whenever they want.
>literally ripping off Lovecraft
>WoW babies think their lore is worth shit
>they ACTUALLY still care about/play WoW
>>332072257
He could spew corrosive mucus out of his million nostrils whilst horrific minions crawl out of them endlessly.
>>332072675
Yeah and for some reason they decided to give them the same name that normal voidwalkers in shitty armor have. According to Chronicles it seems like they're the far realm equivalent for WoW
>b-but we just put it in because it looks cool
I'm ignoring all lore developments since then end of Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne because I honestly haven't enjoyed anything WoW has put out. It's obvious the writers couldn't give a single fuck
guys
guys what if
guys
what if
listen
we take an old god
and corrupt it with another old god
and have thrall corrupted but then saved by thrall from the draenor universe
>tfw WC4 soon
>>332072583
Yeah, once you notice it, you'll see that almost every single SG window in games is horribly put together. Like when people cut fingers into glass it makes me cringe.
Like you'd think you'd look at a couple of cathedrals as reference materials, but game artists always just take game art and then draw "lead lines" all over it. Like we've used glass paints to portray faces and hands (and leaves, branches, words) for hundreds of years.
But yeah, anyone who does traditional leaded glass knows that you can't cut those shapes into glass. You can cheat it with came overlays and the like, but in general you just don't do it, because it's a recipe for heat-cracks and degradation in structural integrity
>>332072257
pulsating shit and trypophobia, bonus from insects crawling inside outside like that webm
Well of course. That's the whole point of the old gods. They are never seen, but are in everyones mind. They inspire, create, influence. That's the whole theme of lovecraft. That's why mostly Creators can see the Old gods.
>>332072675
>Playing Legacy of the Void
>Surely Amon isn't the big bad behind it all and Kerrigan will defeat him with some sort of super weapon
>She does
Yes they're going to retcon the whole thing to make the Burning Legion look innocent just like the Zerg. We're not really evil planet destroyers we're just trying to save you!
>>332072889
Neither the writers, nor the developers obviously. (Which is why I think you posted that image)
>>332072889
>no Troll raid in WotlK with a massive fucking snake
This continues to sadden me to this day.
>>332072317
But the glass isn't cut at all.
>>332073113
>He likes troll raids
>>332070553
bro i dont see any name tag saying yshaarj
looks more like a pic of this guy
>>332072809
This
C'thun was literally just a joke/meme/reference and when metzen ran out of ideas he decided to make old gods a prominent figure in the story. Fucking lol.
>>332073225
ZG and ZA were great though.
SHAI'HULUD
>>332071582
You do know that the old gods was based off of H.P. Lovecrafts work, right.
This is yog sathoth. Looks familiar to yog saron, doesn't he? Instead of a bunch of eyes, he had mouths.
MEIN FUHRER, I CAN WALK AGAIN!
>>332073216
What would be the alternative? Is it all a single piece of turquoise, painted (keep in mind, when you paint with real glass paint, not that hobby shit, you have to fire each and every color at a different temperature, that piece requires a massive kiln and probably AT LEAST 20 firings, during any of which it could crack, especially if it's a single-layer of glass), then an overlay on top?
Why would someone do all that work just to make something look like a cheap acrylic knockoff?
>>332072581
except Sargeras fought demons, who were already corrupt by fel magic, which is what twisted them into demons in the first place. there's a reason why Sargeras was able to subdue the pantheon by himself, the Titans are naturally vulnerably to fel magic (disorder).
>>332072675
I can see it now. Final boss of WoW is the same generic void walker model we've seen a hundred times over.
So who was the person who pulled down their pants and shit out this retcon any way?
WE IZ OLD GOD MAKERS N SHIET
>>332073241
Nah something that looked like him was in the tft scourge campaign
Azeroth is some kind of Super-Titan egg that might contain the thing that will murder the Void Lords but the Void Lords sent the Old Gods to corrupt the egg
Sargeras is trying to destroy the egg so it can never be corrupted and then destroy reality so he can recreate it without the Void Lords in it
>Titans are using azeroth to hatch a titan
>Azeroth would break if the titan would hatch
>Sargeras wants to put an end to this
>Old Gods obviously don't want their world destroyed
>somehow the titans are the good guys
riddle me that shit
>>332073237
Random old god
>>332068240
It doesn't matter what this old god is because Blizzard's just going to fuck it up anyway.
>>332073490
>Is it all a single piece of turquoise, painted (keep in mind, when you paint with real glass paint, not that hobby shit, you have to fire each and every color at a different temperature, that piece requires a massive kiln and probably AT LEAST 20 firings, during any of which it could crack, especially if it's a single-layer of glass), then an overlay on top?
Yes.
>Why would someone do all that work just to make something look like a cheap acrylic knockoff?
Why would fucking alien robots make art and put that art inside rooms with no entrances or exits to begin with?
>>332073241
Sure thing, anon. Absolutely correct. WC3 didn't have any Lovecraftian squidfaced monsters either.
It was all a prank
>>332073734
Not even fucking remotely canon.
>>332073825
Is death not preferable to subjugation?
>>332073860
I mean... ok, i guess. That technically explains it. It looks like shit though.Occam's Razor dictates that it's much more likely that the artist was just shit or lazy
>>332073924
That's where the joke started
>>332074013
Why would the void gods keep people around if they have nothing left to conquer?
>>332073860
>>Is it all a single piece of turquoise, painted (keep in mind, when you paint with real glass paint, not that hobby shit, you have to fire each and every color at a different temperature, that piece requires a massive kiln and probably AT LEAST 20 firings, during any of which it could crack, especially if it's a single-layer of glass), then an overlay on top?
>Yes.
Cheap bastards.
>>332073976
Only thing that might not be is sargeras wanting to destroy reality
>>332073924
WC3 had a zergling in it too, you want to read into the deep lore implications of that?
>>332074239
Except that wasn't a major bossfight in the campaign.
>>332074189
No. The whole thing is not canon.
You can't decide to wake up one day and get someone who didn't write the franchise in the first place to construct a giant retcon and then say "Oh yeah this is canon now heheh"
>>332074187
it would actually be like 100x more expensive to do it this way.
The fucking madmen
>>332074239
I forgot that chapter in the campaign where the big end fight was against the zerglings. My bad
Void lords made the old gods and scared sargeras enough to go crazy and want to destroy the universe
Sargeras killed the titans except for the last titan which is inside Azeroth. There are still a few of the demigod watcher types like Loken around even though most of them are dead too
>>332074239
>Hey Arthas, digging this thing up is literally the reason why my people lost to the Scourge
>That doesn't sound remotely important to the story at all, Nub
What a jape
>>332072505
As of the Chronicles, the Burning Legion literally did nothing wrong and Sargeras is a good boy who wants to be a doctor in a rebooted universe.
I wish Blizz would make more raids like this. Immerseus fight was so cool. The design of the room was so cool. Giant chambers holding creatures of pure evil and horror. Is this lovecraftian kind of?
>>332074347
Except that's how it's going to go down the line for now. Just accept it. You let this happen when you didn't raise a big enough shit storm over draenei suddenly turning into nice eredar that devolved into whale tooth raisins which aren't real draenei
>>332074463
Wasnt the legion locked away on mardu or whatever its called until sargeras freed and enslaved them?
>>332074596
Yeah the demons are all shitters. They just changed Sargeras's motivation from chaos is the natural state to "I hope those pesky void lords don't get through"
>>332074548
Wasn't as much as a problem as changing the primary antagonist overnight and exonerating the last one.
>Just accept it
Nah fuck it I'm done. Legacy of the Void was an insult to humanity. This shit can burn in the darkest recesses of Hell forever.
>>332074323
I really like this. Firelands shouldve looked like that.
>>332074786
Mandatory WE
>>332074465
Immerseus is a regular water elemental that got shrekd by the sha.
Its a water purification area under Pandarias sunwell.
Also that fight sucked.
>>332072934
Don't give him ideas.
>>332068240
Those are the Sha...
>>332074953
WUZ
am i the only one who has some sort of phobia to world of warcraft? all the locations look fucking terrifying
>>332074323
Is this from a book or something?
>>332075114
Yes
I suggest sucking dick and swallowing until you've got enough man in you to function in the real world
>>332075167
already doing so thx
>>332070591
>n'zoz
retarded name of retarded character
fuck metzen and his lovercraftian bulshit
>n'zoth will never brutally tentacle fuck your sweet pussy
why live
>>332074786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmndxoF74qQ
WE AMANI WUZ KINGS
>>332073516
Sargeras said "I might fight the demons!"
But then the Void Lords said "No Sargeras you are the demons"
And then Sargeras was a Burning Legion.
>>332075556
This image is full of shit. Scourge and undead in general is result of necrotic plague engineered by Legion.
>>332074997
Was a fun fight imo. Also BIS trinket dropped from it.
>>332075816
Man, fuck lineage 2. I hated that game.
>>332075735
There was undeads before the The Burning Legion.
>>332075735
ITT: babbies who never played WC1 or 2.
>>332075735
It's not saying that those guys made that magic, they're just the biggest users of it
>>332076293
Why is this a gif?
>>332076461
Gif allow for transparency and are pretty light. There is no reason why it could not be a gif. Gifs dont lose quality when saved too.
>>332076461
There's a screamer after 45 seconds
>>332073237
I thought that thing was a single step below an oldgod, like a general or something
>>332075735
if the lich king, empowered by Undead - Necromantic - Death has nothing to do with the Shadow, how come he can mentally dominate people since Warcraft 3 just like shadow priests. Did the Burning Legion empower him with the Void Gods powers?
>>332073237
>>332076749
I'm pretty sure that's a C'thaxx, a general of the old gods, who died during the Titans conquest.
>>332076805
Mind control isn't exclusive to Shadow.
>All shadow can Mind control =/= All mind controllers are shadow.
>>332077059
C'Thrax*
1. Favorite race
2. Favorite zone
3. Favorite instance
4. Favorite BG
5. Favorite NPC
>>332077169
so we have multiple magic spheres sharing the exact same powers? well okay then.
>>332072313
No, he is the Defiler.
>>332072313
No, Archimonde is the Defiler.
>>332068240
So the book has been out since the 15th but I haven't heard shit about the new lore outside of what the redshirt guy leaked and the google sample.
What shit did they ruin passed the first chapter?
>>332076293
Seriously why isn't Kul Tiras in the game yet
>>332073442
actually he was described as a bunch of balls.
>>332075735
Even in the original lore Nathrazim knew the art of necromancey.
The new lore just establishes that their entire race was focused on the art of mastering shadow magics
>>332077268
Shamans, Priests and mages are in 3 different categories and all know how to summon things.
Priets, Druids and shamans can all heal despite drawing power from different sources.
>>332077059
>>332077191
The C'thraxxi are the name of the faceless generals race, like Vezax or Erudax. not the name of an individual.
>>332077196
1. Orc
2. Netherstorm
3. Hall of Reflections was pretty neat
4. Vanilla AV/WSG
5. WC3 Arthas
>>332073442
>Old gods are based on lovecraft
No, they're based of August Derleth's fan-fiction of Lovecraft's work.
I can't believe people still care about neo-Warcraft. The book ruined what WoW didn't already, the movie is going to bomb harder than Batman vs. Superman, and the next expansion promises to bring more of the same as WoD.
There just has to be a point when people say enough is enough and just drop this garbage. Blizzard is dead, long live ActiBlizzard.
>>332077484
It couldn't even if they tried
>During the Cataclysm, the island was shifted out to sea by shifting tectonic plates: both the land's and the city's current whereabouts is unknown.
>>332073225
Troll raids have objectively been the best set of raids across the xpacs
>>332076293
>kul tiras
FUCKING
WHEN
>>332077196
1. Favorite race
Undead
2. Favorite zone
Gankerthorn Vale
3. Favorite instance
Everything that has to do with Ulduar
4. Favorite BG
Arathi Basin
5. Favorite NPC
Rexxar
>>332077849
But Ulduar isn't a troll raid.
>>332073924
This was the most interesting loose end of WC3 for me.
I was waiting for when Blizzard would ruin the whole "Old God" concept.
It was actually a good while.
>>332077593
the entire definition of Shadow priests was the manipulation of peoples minds, hence Mind Flay, Mind Blast, Mind Soothe, Mind Vision,Psychic Scream and Mind Control.
Now you're telling me Necromancers have psychic powers as well?
>>332077196
1. Ethereals if we count non-playables, Forsaken if we don't
2. Netherstorm
3. SFK before the shitty cata remake
4. Based AB of course
5. Kel'Thuzad
>>332077593
>The C'thraxxi are the name of the faceless generals race, like Vezax or Erudax. not the name of an individual.
That's why I wrote "a" C'thrax, as in, "one of the" C'thrax
>>332078241
No, only the LK has mind controlling powers over his undead subjects
>>332078241
The undead don't follow their Necromancer because he asked them politely
>if there's no Lich King then the Scourge will run riot
>almost as if the Lich King were controlling their minds somehow
>>332078191
It was a piece of Yogg according to Wotlk.
>>332076293
I can't get over the location of Broken Isles.
I find it hard to believe that in-between missions you traveled half the world in the beginning of the NE TFT campaign.
>>332078114
Ulduar is the only raid with that theme, read
>>332078326
The Lich King is repeatedly mentioned to have mental powers over the living in Warcraft 3
>>332078358
Controlling their souls, as in necromancy, the difference between manipulating a living mind and one of the Banshees or ghosts of the Scourge.
>>332072313
Heheh, you've been playing in a certain language other than English, right?
Anyway, there's so many Warcraft villains with generic titles like "Corruptor" or "Destroyer".
>>332078917
Don't forget the Devourer.
>>332078981
Who the hell has that title?
>>332079058
ur mom lol
>>332075936
The first undead on Azeroth were during the war of the Ancients, any examples of undead before that?
>>332079209
You could count the Val'kyr and Kva'dir I guess
>>332079058
Fucking everything
https://www.google.com/search?q=Wowpedia+the+devourer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
A new addition includes Sarg's own personal hell hound.
>>332074465
>waiting for shit to happen , the boss
kill yourself
HUH
>332075556
if the Old Gods are powered by the Shadow through the Void Lords, which is separate from Necromancy and Death, why was Yogg-saron called the Old God of Death? Did he spec into Death magic in his free time? Does that mean an Old God could spec into Holy or Nature?
>>332077679
This, a thousand times this.Lovecraft approved most of Derleth's works tho
>>332075164
From the new lore book.
>>332079534
Maybe it was just a cool sounding title he gave himself?
>>332079534
The magic system is pretty damn inconsistent.
For a while in WoW were trying to establish that undeath wasn't arcane or fel, but void magic.
This was made light in WoD when Alt Ner'Zhul, who hadn't been trained as a necromancer by the legion yet, used the pure void of a dying naaru to raise the dead.
Now necrotic is it's own force.
>>332079634
Lovecraft approved of his idea to create a sort of universe to base books on, the Mythos.
Lovecraft likely didn't approve of Derleth's attempts to Christianize his ideas so they sounded less apathetic. Lovecraft would have hated the Elder Gods.
>>332079503
Westfall as a warlock was a nightmare. Fun though.
>desperately health funneling your voidwalker so the adds don't target you
>>332074465
>Doing heroic Immerseus
>Offtank never knows how to soak the middle pool properly
>End up taking like 11 stacks and die
Every time
So, off-games warcraft lore is basically
>a bunch of insects and elementals live peacefully on Azeroth
>tentacle monsters land here and enslave them
>titans come and imprison them, then reshape land, leave huge magic well and leave
>mammals evolve into trolls, trolls evolve into elves
>Legion tries to invade but fails
>10000 years nothing happens
>WC1: Orcs & Humans
Whats more shocking is that people still play WoW
>>332074016
True, however the implications in game are way more fun
>>332080545
Now the lore is this
>Dark and Light dimensions collide, creating reality and the twisting Nether
>Demons form in the twisting nether, life and spirits forms in reality
>Worlds with a lot of life, elements and magic shit out powerful manifestation of order called titans.
>The titans naturally seek to order the universe and to create more of their kind
>Demons feed off arcane, life and destruction and thus parasitically feed off their work
>Meanwhile, entities in the dark dimension seek to enter reality and end it.
>Incapable of existing in reality, they shape the old gods and hurl them at worlds across the universe, hoping to corrupt an unborn titan which would allow them to manifest fully.
>World called Azeroth is full of nothing but elementals fighting wars, Old Gods crash land on it and enslave the elementals.
>Titans find Azeroth, which has a titan fetus in it that is immensely powerful
>They also find Old gods trying to corrupt it and freak out, creating the titan-forged races to combat the old gods.
>Aman'Thul makes a bad move and rips the Old God Yashaarj's head off creating the well of eternity, which is fetus blood hemiriging out of the planet.
>Titans realize they can't remove the old gods without killing the babby, so they imprison them.
>Meanwhile designated demon slaying Titan Sarg learns the truth about the void lords and sides with the demons to abort titan fetuses across the universe.
The bugs are now old god creations
>>332081903
What a load of shit desu
>>332077196Orc
Stranglethorn Vale
Azjol'nerub
Temple of Katmogu
I liked Garrosh's character arc before Blizzard nuked him.
>>332077196
Night Elf with honorable mention to Troll
Mount Hyjal
Karazhan or Ulduar
Alterac Valley, especially before resource thing but continued to be my favourite after the change as well
I like so many. Jaina, Rokhan, Medivh
>>332081903
>literally "dark and light are the primary forces of the universe"
Literally JRPG tier.
Dropped.
>playing Blizzard games post 2010
Kill yourself.
Seriously. Do it.
>>332072505I made a legitimate $200 bet with a friend that KJ will be all like "Sargeras would've wiped us out if we didn't join! Velen's the asshole for damning the eredar that went with him!"
